I'm coping for a Melina DLC Anons.

>>985823 There is nothing more to do with her story, she wanted to die in the fire and she died. "Oh but I went to the Frenzied Flame and then used the needle to purify myself, why won't she talk to me anymore?" She is too disgusted by the idea that you would even consider killing everyone on the planet, including Torrent, no just because you meta-gamed and used a needle, she is still angry at you, she ain't coming back, unless it's to stab you in the heart.

It only recently struck me that there's no "Don't Link The Fire" ending for Elden Ring. You either have to become the consort to Marika's brain dead body- with an option for various seasonings for the broth, become consort of a blue doll with questionable morals and ethics, or kill everyone. There's no "Fuck this. You're all retarded. I'm leaving." option. >>985823 >>985830 Speaking of blue dolls and good endings.

Cool thread OP, I'm 50 hours into my 2nd playthrough, going way faster than before so I should be ready for the DLC in a few days. I would use my first character but I made the mistake of going ng+ and dropping the game right away 2 years ago hehe

>>985823 Melinafags suffer the most in Elden meme.

Which souls character wud u fug?

>>985999 >Demon Souls Maiden in Black >Dark Souls Priscilla >Dark Souls 2 Emerald Herald >Bloodborne Doll/Lady Maria >Dark Souls 3 Fire Keeper >Elden Ring Several, but in the interest of pattern: Ranni I am extremely basic.

>>986003 >Fire Keeper

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OO6MOFVmh10 She looks so peaceful

>>986003 sellen > melina > millicent > fia > ranni > lizard girl

>>985833 AAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU I'M PLAYING LIES OF PINGAS, YOU NIGGER

>>986189 Also >Aegis

Just booted up Nioh, liking the mechanics so far, but I just hope the level design is more interesting than "Swamp". Sekiro had a better swamp stage with the Hirata State too

>>986008 Putting all the porn aside it would have been interesting to have Miquella somehow slight the player character. Taking away Melina from you or stealing Torrent(like he was shown in the promotions). The way its done in the DLC you barely get the sense he even charmed anyone of his followers or that he even used his powers for anything but good. It would certainly give the player hell of a lot more motivation to after him and justify why you do not get to side with him. As it stands you are essentially trying to kill him for no reason in particular.

>Code Vein still has Denuvo What the fuck? I have the game from a bundle and I can't even play it because of that crap. It turns 5 in a few months.

>>986161 I bet Sellen gives great head. >>986259 >Code Vein still has Denuvo That's really weird. Namco usually, if it uses it all, gets rid of Denuvo within the year. The only true Denuvo cultists I was aware of were Sega. God I hate Sega for that.

>>986274 Was 2019 before Denuvo started requiring more money for protection after a year? I know a bunch of older Namco Bandai titles (Ace Combat, Soul Calibur) only got rid of Denuvo when it would be incompatible with new Intel CPUs, and its still in Fatal Bullet as well.

so, shadow of the erdtree, is there only one way into the abyssal woods? through the catacombs? if so, then jori is the only boss you need to fight to access pretty much the entirety of the map. I find that to be pretty interesting. >>986274 >I bet Sellen gives great head I want to know what sort of magic she can weave with her feet, personally.

>>986256 >justify why you do not get to side with him The really funny thing is that there is unused Miquella dialogue that seems to be from an ending and it's almost exactly the same thing Ranni says in her Age of Stars ending.

Wait. Where is Miquella's fucking wolfman? Don't all Empyreans get a furry commissar? Isn't that actual base game lore?

>>986655 the shadowbound beasts were given by the two fingers of the golden order; sort of as royal protectors/knightly servants to he who was considered by the order a royal official of high import. marika had maliketh and ranni had blaidd because they were actually chosen as vassal for the greater will. miquella and malenia are defective, thus they weren't fit for candidacy, and didn't receive one (at least that's my personal speculation).

>>986658 With Godfrey, I assumed the lion was also a shadowbound beast, but that seemed to act more like a power limiter than an actual helper. Now I assume he received it, because he was the Elden Lord and the Golden Order wanted to keep tabs on him, so how come Radagon didn't get one, or did Godfrey get his when he was banished, so the Golden Order put a tracking device on him?

>>986212 we get it you cant afford elden ring zoomer

>>986212 Yeah, Nioh is great

>>986655 see, only empyreans get a shadowbound beast. I don't think either radagon or godfrey were empyreans. the lion is called serosh, and he was regent and advisor to godfrey during his time as elden lord. he helped him raise his children, morgott, mohg, godwyn, and the rest of the golden lineage (who are unspecified beyond godrick, it's possible there were more but we don't actually know that).

sorry >>986755 meant for >>986662

>>986662 Sarosh seems to be implied to be his power limiter that helps Godfrey/Hoarah Loux with his barbarian bloodlust and his pseudo-royal adviser that helps with him stately duties because Lion - Royalty symbolism. Would be a bit strange for the Golden Order to keep tabs of him when there's that other theory of him turning Tarnished and banished from the Lands Between as a long term plan of Marika's.

>>986212 >but I just hope the level design is more interesting than "Swamp". Which stage has a swamp? I don't remember a swamp at all? I remember falling into the fucking shrine water 100 times but no swamp.

>>985823 Why does From hate us?

>>985830 Even if it's not a full ending it feels a little sloppy not to have something if you do FF and then cure it. The extra Melina cutscene doesn't play if you get Touched By A Three Finger after she does a flip. So there should at least be an extra scene if you burn for her and then double cross crazy space satan with gay boi's needle. >>986921 I just don't think they think shit through or something.

>6 months since the last berserk chapter >we are on a boat again only relevant thread I can post this in no bully, remember when you couldnt find a ds1 fan that wasnt also a berserk fan?

So is the Scadutree the original Erdtree? Meaning it is/was the Crucible?

>>987082 On a KUSHAN Boat!

>>987721 >Remembrance of the Scadutree Avatar, hewn into the Scadutree. The power of its namesake can be unlocked by the Finger Reader. Alternatively, it can be used to gain a great bounty of runes. The Scadutree is the shadow of the Erdtree. Born of dark notions that bear no sense of Order, that twist and bend its stock, rendering it brittle.

>>987082 >>987875 >Still reading Berserk Anon please, Miura never had a plan and the people continuing it sure as hell don't. It's all just been padding since the Conviction Arc. Christ, I wish the Monster of the Week format was kept, it was so much better than faggy LoTR party hijinks.

>>987881 >the people continuing it The WHAT?

>>987889 I'm sorry you had to find out this way, anon...

>>987889 You really thought they still have this tradition of burying the artist with his art? Look at DragonBall and whatever Square Enix have been shitting out just to bank on Toriyama's death, they can just hose up their franchises like they're on life support.

It's boring. The biggest issue is that there's practically no exposition, not even for the player character, so it's difficult to give a damn about anything and difficult to make a choice about anything. Without being given any motivation and without any meaningful understanding of the world and its major actors, the game ends up being little more than screwing around until some even triggers. Maybe this changes after you hit the X hour mark, but in my experience every time someone said "oh it gets better after X hours" about a game, it didn't.

>>987881 I'm going to repeat it but the best thing to come out of Berserk was the Lost Children aka the Cannibal Fairy arc, after that the most memorable thing afterwards was Rape Horse, it just got more D&D padded and tamer the longer it went on afterwards.

>>987889 Gooks realized they could milk their franchise just like america did and turned Goku into our Superman and every franchise is open to multiple interpretations of it, spin offs, stand alone series, "canon" continuations, etc, etc... Mangas and animes is dead

>>988244 It's product, Toriyama was pretty blunt about not giving too much of a shit about it after a while. Miura just started stretching out Berserk since he got a license deal with Warner Brothers for movies.

>>988244 >>988245 Mangaka run the gamut of how they feel about their art, but Shonen Jump mangaka in particular are blase about the marketing. Toriyama only reacted once at how Dragon Ball was being used and that was when Dragon Ball Evolution came out. Kishimoto has made no bones about Naruto not being his first choice for a manga, but just the one that sold Oda has repeatedly said he doesn't care how One Piece is merchandised and even mocks people like Ken Levine who treat characters like their children.

>>988245 >>988265 Its not like i can blame them. They fucking take decades out of their lives for the chance of hitting it big time. I won't pretend they are good though.

>>988217 It's a density problem with the narrative. I just don't think open world + Souls jives perfectly well together. It's too easy to miss or break the quests and dialogue that does occur. The DLC itself has a narrative problem in that its basically disconnected from the base game's narrative completely. If you don't defeat two optional bosses then Miquellas plan can't even succeed enough for you to have any reason to try and stop him. Furthermore in 5 out of the 6 endings it doesn't matter if he gets his consort and ascends anyway because you are rewriting reality anyway. That, combined with the fact that the world is such in Elden Ring that you expect more interaction and dialogue with NPCs. Unlike previous Souls everyone isn't dead, a zombie, a werewolf, or crazy so you expect the possibility to converse with more people and as a potential Lord you would think you would get more supporters. Sekiro had a bit of that latter problem too but that game takes place over a much shorter period of time and also Wolf is a recovering psychopath. In other Souls games you're basically a murderhobo but then everyone else is so much worse or they're non sapient so it doesn't really matter.

>>988217 > Without being given any motivation and without any meaningful understanding of the world and its major actors First time playing a souls game?

>Miquella implies incest with his brother Radahn (both being brothers) >Two Fingers (male) becomes a mother >Unique death scene where Miquella steals the player heart if Radahn grabs the player twice (spitting on the roleplay aspect of the game) >Increased number of Female bosses with melee combat as a focus >just so happened to be released during pride month Elden Ring is pretty much Fromsoft meets Ubishit at this point. I honestly would rather play Cuphead

>>985823 Nope too bad, you have to have a tranny faggot fest and you will like it

>>988307 >Unique death scene where Miquella steals the player heart if Radahn grabs the player twice They really just should have made this equivalent to the Three Fingers grab and if you beat Elden Beast without curing it you get a Miquella ending.

>>988307 >>988309 Bro this is literally the "KILL FAGGOTS" dlc. Miquella is the ''villain." He mind controlled Radahn. This entire dlc was about how Miquella was a evil faggot who used people and you kill him for it.

>>988363 Explain why Count Ymir becomes a mother then, if it's not supposed to be woke shit that just so happened to be released during pride month

>>988403 It's because he's channeling or being possessed by Elden Shub Niggerath. I don't think Mommy Finger should even be necessarily thought of as female since "she" is a fucking cosmic horror.

>>988434 >>988363 Man, people fall for the shittiest of bait nowadays. >>988331 That would've been an interesting way to do things, there's even a trigger tied to it in the code as a way to get the "we go together" gesture already. Wonder if they were planning that or a similar idea but decided to scrap it for being too obtuse, or some similar reasoning? On another note. There's a trend with discussion about this DLC that got me thinking, as it's a problem that's been affecting the souls series and souls-likes as a whole for a while, but really feels like it started to become a real problem after DS3. That issue being nobody really talks about the moment-to-moment PVE very much and instead lasers in on boss fights. I want to blame this on DS3 due to that game doing exactly that with mediocre PVE and char/setup building and instead putting most of the gameplay focus on boss fights. This DLC has some of the coolest level design in From's whole repetoire of games and nobody's even talking about it, instead bitching about the bosses or whining about inane shit like how the dancing lion is a bad boss because he has 2 elements he can use. Areas like Belurat and The Specimen Hall are fucking amazing levels to navigate, especially in co-op and with the threat of invaders, and lead to a lot of fun situations in such cases. Even the mini-dungeons are a huge step up from base ER and many are very cool in their own rights like the three catacombs all being distinct. What's the cause of this shift in focus from the PVE as a whole to laser-focusing on boss fights? People aren't even talking about the lore or the characters/story much at all this time around, most discussion I'm seeing is hyper focused on boss fights and boss designs like this game is a boss rush game and not a, you know, RPG with a story and world and whole ass levels and all that.

>>988434 Keep making up excuses. Would you make up an excuse for ER if Fromsoft put trans flags in it?

>>988442 Probably because boss fights in early Souls installments aren't all that difficult. You don't really hear about people complaining about boss dificulty compared to area difficulty in those game. Outside of specific instances like BoC, Capra in the closet, or DS2 hitboxes. Probably blame the Old Hunters DLC for adding the first completely apeshit bosses and getting the fanbase hooked on them.

It’s weird to me that Elden Ring has eclipsed Dark Souls in the cultural zeitgeist. I know it’s got more content and all, but still it feels like Warioland becoming more famous than Super Mario Bros.

>>988307 Nu/pol/ is neurotic to a truly ridiculous degree. >>988442 >What's the cause of this shift in focus from the PVE as a whole to laser-focusing on boss fights? It's just low IQ people having low IQ opinions. For whatever reason Elden Ring riles up aggressively retarded and highly opinionated people. It was the exact same story when the base game came out.

>>988457 >muh pol go back >>>/leftypol/

>>988452 I guess you know how SMT fans felt when Persona eclipsed the main series. >>988457 >It's just low IQ people having low IQ opinions. That's obviously a factor, I know, but it's going beyond just that and this whole "muh boss fights" thing has completely dominated the discussion about Elden Ring, beyond retards being retards. This kind of thing is also spreading beyond Elden Ring itself and has been affecting soulslike discussion and even design for quite a while. I've seen quite a few games where devs really neglect the basic level design while focusing too much on the bosses. Hell, Salt and Sacrifice is probably one of the best examples of that because while the bosses are at least okay and are usually great, the bosses themselves DO NOT mesh with the level design and the chase gimmick becomes quite bullshit when you're fighting bosses with giga-knockback on tiny platforms with lethal drops to the left and right. >>988449 I guess you have a point here, but does that mean the levels are too easy for people, now? Or just that people are lasering in on the hard stuff over discussing the overall game design? IDK myself, I just personally find it frustrating that people are glossing over the excellent things like the new weapons and spells, and the amazing level design to complain about the bosses. Man, I wish I'd get summoned for actual level navigation more, too, while discussing this. I find fighting through levels themselves a ton more fun in general than trying to carry someone through a fight with a big baddie.

>>988442 DS3 and Elden Ring have reached a point where normalfaggots just want to use them as a dick measuring contest so all the online discourse revolves around the boss fights.

>>988484 >but does that mean the levels are too easy for people, now? In the case of Elden Ring they kind of are. It's extremely easy to avoid combat that you don't want it. I guess Sekiro had a bit of that as well since you could grapple out of most situations but Sekiro only half counts as a Souls game. Elden Ring has both Torrent and open world so outside of dungeons combat is completely optional.

>>988442 A lot of lack of discussion surrounding dungeons is due to the open world: if you praise how good dungeons are, then you're forced to admit how bad the open world is. Open world moment to moment "gameplay" is avoiding enemies whilst riding Torrent. Criticizing something they've imprinted unto is impossible for normalfags.

>>988541 My belief that DS1 was peak souls design continues to prove itself even well into the current day.

>>988478 Nu/pol/ is utterly braindead, on top being absurdly neurotic. >>988484 >beyond retards being retards. It's literally just retards, anon. Wake up to the retard menace, it's a genuine problem.

Are people still trying to say ER's open world is bad when it's one of the few in years that rewards you for exploration.

>>988596 Open world is gay to begin with

>>988596 Nice bait, here's your mushroom reward.

LOL

>>988635 He's right. Ymir's a dude through and through and gets referred to as a dude by his bodyguard. He only wants to be a mother in the sense of being able to birth the fingers through becoming a host for them, which does not require being a woman, surprise surprise. It's like calling yourself a mother to tapeworms or another parasite by hosting it in your body. Dude also has an amazing profile pic there. It also seems like someone changed it back in the time since that comment.

>>988653 Trannies are braindead morons desperate for "representation", as if that will alleviate the problem of their suicide rates.

>>988653 I think they removed all traces of any pronouns from Ymir's Boss page and the entire article is in first person now.

>>988653 Basically proving he's a tranny. He could have referred to himself as a father to them and it would have made more sense. Just a reminder this just so happened to be released during pride month

Yes, retardanon, the Kill Faggots dlc was released during pride month. Given how much I saw liberals on twitter screaming about how pissed the plot dlc made them, your attempted gaslighting isn't going to work.

>>988762 Killing mother ymir is a choice, you don't have to do it to beat the dlc. Plus Ymir isn't a villain

>>988754 Fathers can't give birth to things, anon, don't let the LGBLTBBQ crowd brainwash you into believing otherwise. It's pride month, apparently, so we all have to be extra careful to avoid faggot brainwashing.

>>988787 Tell us why Ymir (male) became a mother and even wanted to be a mother then

>>988818 He became a mother (♂) because he was overly attached to his little finger creeper buddy and sad at how the mother of the fingers was shit at being a mother, anon. Did you not pay attention to his questline at all? Did you even play the game? Are you mentally retarded? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question. I already know you're retarded.

>>988843 Indeed. Truly, Miquella the Booty Warrior riding Radahn like he's playing horsey has consigned not only elden meme, but all of fromslop's games to irrelevancy and failure. Miquella said unto not only Radahn, but the innocent players, and even the developers themselves: "I like ya and I want ya. Now we can do this the easy way, or we can do it the hard way, the choice is yours." All is lost. Open world games were a mistake and the first and final step of the LGBLTBBQ agenda to undermine gaming. We chose the hard way and all that's left now are asses and elbows. t. niggerpill.

>>988847 Your ass has been well and truly Miquellested. What a shame.

What is this weird push lately to suggest Elden meme is pozzed?

>>988853 Closeted faggots wanting Miquella's willy up their asses.

>>988847 You sound kinda mad at gay people. Wanna drop your Discord and take out that anger on my bussy while calling me a faggot? t. gay bottom and consort of Miquella

>>988856 Good to see the gay pride symbol himself here on 8chan.moe, General Radahn.

>>988853 Typical kneejerk that anything remotely gay = pozzed. Even though I don't see how a fag wanting to make members of his own family his hypno slaves and objectively being the villain is anything good being said about homos. (Also, why are people blaming Miyazaki when if there was any pozz it was likely added by the lazy fat faggot GRRM.)

>>988858 >if there was any pozz it was likely added by the lazy fat faggot GRRM Surely any pozz wouldn't have come from that pure and innocent lad.

>>988861 Don't forget to respond to me, faggot. Ye who desireth Miquella's willly up his ass. The willy of the mighty Booty Warrior.

>>988861 Mmmhh Daddy, love how you degrade me. I'm jacking it right now like the dirty queer I am. Drop your Discord, you could really dom me, Elden Ring, open world, and gay people if you fuck my stinky bussy and call me a Fromslop faggot while I'm fighting Radahn. You know you wanna.

>>988869 To the Booty Warrior, there is no bait, only man's butt. t. true loremaster

>>988869 Yeah I don't get why people keep biting the bait either. But it sure is funny to see this spergery, makes me think of that Xenoblade thread where an anon was throwing a massive fit over Taion. On another note, any of you lads came up with some new fashion with shit from the DLC? I have this cool one I managed to throw together from Dryleaf with Messemer's gloves and Ymir's pants. Feels like they pair better with the altered Dryleaf robes due to the off-white matching the undershirt of the robes. Looks good but has little to no defenses.

>>988874 >makes me think of that Xenoblade thread where an anon was throwing a massive fit over Taion. I thought I was the only one who remembered that shit.

>>988895 >Alfred Kinsey The professional masturbator who picked up where Magnus Hirschfeld left off? Wouldn't take him too seriously

>>988948 ITT: triggered nigger faggots

>>988948 >archive Seems like some "/pol/" guy found a new thing to get upset about. Anyway is there any reason why Sekiro never got a DLC? Is it Activision fuckery or Fromsoft got too distracted with Elden Ring.

>>988975 Obviously too busy making a tranny dlc for elden ring

>>988975 Probably a combination of two things. Activision and a low clear rate for the game due to the high difficulty, thus making it seem like a DLC wouldn't be worth it. It did get some free extra content in the form of boss gauntlets though, for what that's worth. Game puts a really bs early boss in the form of blazing bull, and then Genichiro is a massive (but manageable) difficulty spike where you learn how to play or die trying. I think putting demon of hatred right before the final boss was the biggest filter for people though, as I've never heard a single person say a positive thing about that boss and I know a few people who put the game down over that fucker, too, even if he's optional.

>>988975 It's a shame we never did.I wouldhave liked to git some more lazulite prosthetics and seen Tomoe's story. Or more prosthetics in general really. >>988998 >Game puts a really bs early boss in the form of blazing bull, and then Genichiro is a massive Bull is pretty rough but they did make him easier in a later patch. You do have some opportunity to improve a bit before though since you can do all of Hirata before hand. Before you get to Genichiro you have a big chance to go and explore and get 9 of 10 gourd seeds, several prayer beads, and extra attack upgrade (2 if you do Lady Butterfly) than what the game expects you to have. You can also get enough carp scales to buy floating passage. >Demon of Hatred Man you have to be really fully preped for that fight. It's not like Daddy Owl which is difficult but it just feels like fighting another Isshin type fight where it's a warrior at the peak of his power. The Demon on the other hand is a red hot assfucking that just doesn't end. Hope you have some fire mitigating stuff and plenty of confetti and the lazulite flame + living force.

>>987082 bro miura is dead, there's no point

>>989245 I'm sure story wise it's at least going to plan.

>>988998 I still remember 6-8 long streams at launch of people banging their heads at Lady Butterfly or the rematch with Genichiro. Funny shit.

>>989249 Butterfly I can see because she can potentially be your first full boss, but Black MB Genichiro is weak as shit. He's litterally just there to try and force you to burn a few heals or emblems before three rounds of Isshin.

I still wish we could fight Queen bitch herself.

>>989393 we fight her parasitic body double, close enough.

>>989415 >parasitic body double Man that just reminds me of how Miquella is the biggest faggot ever. He had the finest selfussy in all of the Lands Between and he threw her away just to have weird double necrophile incest gay sex with his brother.

I've been downcast that they didn't add in a true MLGS in the DLC only to realize they added a Ludwig's 2.0

Do I need to do azul favela on my new character for the smithing stone ball bearings or is the DLC filled with +7/8/9s? I went ng+ on my original character and dropped it so Im still catching up with a new one

>>989684 The DLC showers you with stones, but if you want to try out a ton of different weapons, you'll want the bell bearings.

>>989705 >The DLC showers you with stones I hope the same thing will be true of the LoP DLC because there are not enough fucking dark moonstones in the game.

So obviously once you're into the game you can spec however you want but what're the best starter classes for a battlemage/magic knight using incantations & sorceries?

>>989445 >text oh, you just made me realize that he could have done as marika-radagon and do a selfcest

>>988559 >repeating lies when called out, this time on a different IP

>>989445 Miquella became a villain the moment he tossed his flower waifu into that hole in order to become a faggot. >>989684 The DLC gives you so many stones people complain about that being the only loot besides new cookbooks. Bell Bearings for stones have basically been made irrelevant.

>>989845 Like what kind of magic knight? Like big colossal sword wielding knight or a rapier/katana knight? If you want a STR/INT build I would go with Hero and then make up the difference leveling INT as you go (there is that big dragon in Calid if you want to to speed it along). For a dexy magic knight I'd go with Prisoner or Samurai. For a holy dexy knight Prophet. Now if you just want a spellblade knight just go with Astrologer. If you want a knight that uses BOTH incantations & sorceries Wretch is probably the best bet and combine it with STR weapons since you can two hand them and that will help with the point spread.

>>989929 Probably like dex weapons more than colossal ones. What about vagabond? Hero is more STR/ARC focused which seems like it's made for dragon incantations. Whereas Vagabond has the most seeming wiggle room with melee stats already there.

>>989928 >Miquella became a villain the moment he tossed his flower waifu into that hole in order to become a faggot. Imagine having a loli built into you and still becoming a faggot. I think Miquella might be retarded. >>989933 Do you want to be a knight that uses spells or a mage that uses swords? >vagabond Since you want a DEX/INT build consider Warrior. It's got 16 DEX and 10 INT and comes with twin scimitars.

>>989934 Knight that uses spells. I don't like primarily mage gameplay. Just seems really boring. I feel more satisfied hitting things & getting close. Warrior or Samurai? I think there's like a 1 or 2 point difference.

>>989934 >I think Miquella might be retarded. Throwing opium loli off of a cliff is definitely retarded. He deserved to die. >>989937 >I feel more satisfied hitting things & getting close. Just do carian sword sorceries. It's literally just a melee mage build. Make sure to throw in Gavel of Haima. Dual wield it for extra fun.

>>989940 That means more FP usage spam & needing to have at least 2 flasks dedicated for it. Usually I save all that for bosses or bigger mobs.

>>989937 >Warrior or Samurai? I think there's like a 1 or 2 point difference. Well at that point I guess aesthetics come into play a bit. If you want azn look it takes awhile to get the samurai set if you don't get it at character creation. >Knight that uses spells. I don't like primarily mage gameplay. Be aware that hymanoid opponets roll like motherfuckers in this game and basically input read so consider night sorceries if you wan supplemental damaging spells. Or use gravity shit to suck in or repel enemies for melee beating. >Just seems really boring. I feel more satisfied hitting things & getting close. Really consider going spellblade. It's like a whole sub class of spells that work like DS3's Farron flash sword and old moonlight. And also one spell that involves a giant magic mallet.

>>989942 You either want to be a mage or not, anon. Maybe a lightning build would work for you? I haven't played one myself yet, so I don't really know, but maybe search around online for some ideas. >>989943 >hymanoid opponets roll like motherfuckers in this game and basically input read so consider night sorceries if you wan supplemental damaging spells. Magic Glintblade and Glintblade Trio from the DLC also work.

>>989943 Well they're both eastern. Just Warrior is more nomadic arabian & Samurai is Nippon. I mean it's a Japanese game & all but it almost feels like a cop out to pick a samurai look in a western themed game. Though between aesthetics I do prefer Samurai. Even if Warrior has a cooler background. I've done a full playthrough before so I know how enemies can be. Hmmm I dunno. >>989944 I wanna be a hybrid knight, anon. I must slash & unleash the power of dragons at the same time.

>>989946 >I must slash & unleash the power of dragons at the same time. Just be a drake knight, then. Make Igon proud.

>>989948 Then we shift the question of the starting class for that route.

>>989951 Just look up a good dragon incantation build on the internet, anon. Starting classes don't matter as much as you probably think they do.

>>989954 You don't understand, anon. My autistic ass must be optimized!

>>989955 Then you should experiment for yourself to determine the optimal Drake Warrior build. Igon is waiting for you.

>>989951 >>989954 Yeah especially since you can do the route >get gold chicken foot on the beach >get morningstar at Weeping Peninsula >take trap chest to AIDS land >trek to giant dragon's ass >touch scaly tail! >get a fuckton of runes and 5 dragon hearts You're now well on your way to a Dragon build. Also >pick stone sword keys for a burial gift >go through French Folk-hero' Grave >get dragon pyromancer flame

>>989958 >french folk-hero Also there's a stone sword key in the dragon burnt ruins. They're not exactly rare items & the mobs down there can be a pain. I'd pick the golden seed to get more flasks faster or the imp ashes to get good spirits right away. Say we go this route then. It'd have to be more faith & arcane focused for those incantations. So Hero, Confessor, or Prophet would be the way to go then?

>>989961 You primarily want faith and arcane, so yeah. The Dragon Communion Seal is something you'd probably want, as well, I'd imagine.

>>989963 Yeah it's the best of the 3 primary seals people use. Probably pick Confessor then. Thanks anons.

>>989705 >>989928 thanks, I just killed Malenia so time to go kill Mohg I guess

>>990140 Just realized the guy is wearing a mortal kombat 2 t shirt lmao

>>988853 Typical b8 posters

>>989675 >Strength scaling: A Yeah it's pretty much a STR version of MLGS

Given that From has a tendency to experiment with new features in one game that they implement as a core concept or mechanic in the next, how would anons feel if the next Souls game didn't have the souls leveling system and instead used the fragment on its own? Like how Sekiro did with prayer beads but in an otherwise traditional souls type game?

>>990874 Could be neat. That's basically how Zelda games work, for what it's worth, pieces of heart and getting heart containers from defeating specific bosses, all of which increase your max health and thus your "defense". Only issue would be stat requirements and managing to still have build variety in such a system if that's still a goal to keep.

>>990874 > how would anons feel if the next Souls game didn't have the souls leveling system and instead used the fragment on its own? Like how Sekiro did with prayer beads but in an otherwise traditional souls type game? I think that it will start becoming a souls-lite like Sekiro, instead of a Souls-like.

>>990874 No. It would flare my autism. I need bigger numbers. I need to calculate optimal damage output based on scaling, and to categorize the variations as affected by different infusions and split damage. The only reason it worked in Sekiro is because the player character doesn't have an arsenal of weapons, he's got a small kit and your bread and butter is deflection and deathblows, so it doesn't make sense to include such systems. It might work in another sequel, or maybe another franchise entirely (like a potential Tenchu revival or something; Remember when everyone saw the E3 trailers for Sekiro and thought it'd be a Tenchu spiritual successor instead of another souls game in disguise?), but souls is distinctly an ARPG. I say, keep it that way.

So... I recently bought Lies of P from a recommendation from the previous thread. I'm at the first Stargazer (basically a bonfire) and was told that you can only use them a limited number of times. What am I in for bros?

>>990929 >and was told that you can only use them a limited number of times. Lies >What am I in for bros? More lies

>>990936 ...of P?

How to cheese the first boss bros? I'm beint clowned on by a clown

>>990941 use the greatsword and the handle fable art on red attacks, it's a perfect block for noobs

>>990944 I'm doing a lot better with the Glaive, almost beat him. The greatsword sucks and has no range

I BEAT HIM BROS

>>990947 Family gatherings are always interesting in Marika's family, huh? >>990948 GG.

>>990949 Thanks, I just dodged a lot and made it pay whenever there was a pause in his attacks. Whenever he went red, I got out of his attack range

>>990948 In a fight, right?

>>990952 Yes

>>990948 Nice

How should I shape up my build in lies of p when I really like the glaive?

>>990886 >>990889 >Only issue would be stat requirements and managing to still have build variety in such a system if that's still a goal to keep. Well the way Sekiro does it is that it keeps experience for skill points in essentially Nioh sort of system. Just expanding on that would probably do. They could also attach stats to attire or accessories instead. That already exists in Souls to a small degree with rings that give you extra attainment or that boost the levels of a particular stat by 5 or whatever points. It's not entirely out of left field. Although it would require more careful effort on the part of From to make that work smoothly compared to letting it be directly in the hands of the player and I'm not 100% sure they're up to that task. They have a kind of a "hit the high spots" game development philosophy. >>990929 >I'm at the first Stargazer (basically a bonfire) and was told that you can only use them a limited number of times. That is a lie. Basically it just means that you can only level up at stargazers during the tutorial level. You have to go back to Firelink Hotel to level after you reach it. >>990957 At some point soon you'll be able to trade out blades and handles for all the new weapons you'll find. Experiment. Don't sleep on that like I did for over half the game. Also I don't want to try and steer your build anon but I'll say that I went with an Advance build (basically elemental or "magic") and had loads of fun. It gets pretty cheesy once you get certain weapons and mix n' match just right. In my next run I'll probably do a Motivity (STR) build because there's a ton of fun heavies that I never got a chance to use.

>>990961 I dumped all of my stats into health and stamina when I got to the hotel when I used up the Gemini fragments

>>990957 >glaive Oh shit that glaive! I was confused and thought you were talking about the other glaive. I didn't know when it gave it to you right at the beginning since it was introduced when I was already at endgame. That weapon is basically a boss soul weapon so it doesn't have exchangeable parts. It's got a couple of powerful fable arts so you'll want to keep syringes of blue puppet meth on hand and once you're given the option to gain passives get extra fable slots and skills to increase fable refill. BE AWARE there are only enough upgrade mats to bring 2 boss soul weapons up to +5 and an additional 2 up to +4 so before you think about going above +3 consider long and hard if you really want to commit to it. Regular weapons aren't an issue. There's more than enough materials to bring them all to +9 and like 6 to +10. The blades. That's what gets upgraded not the handles so you can switch what ever handle to your fully upgraded blade. There is another Asian boss soul weapon that you get much later into the game that you might like. It's a sword.

>>990963 >I dumped all of my stats into health and stamina That's a wise decision. I should have leveled health sooner than what I did. Also be aware that there is an encumbered stat and the accessories (basically armor pieces) you get can be surprisingly heavy. Unless your parry game excellent you DO NOT want to "fat roll" in this game, and even then.

>>990966 No I mean the other glaive

>>990970 >the other glaive What's the exact name?

>>990971 Booster glaive

>>990972 Oh you've got that far. Try experimenting with different blades as you get them. You might find a use for fire soon, and lots of it. If you do decide to use elemental blades on a handle that doesn't natively scale with advance then you need to put an advance crank on it. Giving advance scaling doesn't affect the other two stats so it won't negativity affect your weapon if you decide to drop a regular blade back on it. Oh it's also got b scaling in Technique so even though it looks hefty it's a dex weapon.

>>990973 just kidding

>>990974 >>990972 Pair the handle with the Bone-Cutting Sawblade for some sweet range and LARP as Nero.

>>990976 I kinda want to try the glaive handle with the pizza cutter because the default handle for that is a little disappointing.

>>990977 Now that you mention disappointment, i have to say i expected the rabbits to drop the big bro's sword.

>>990983 Everybody I've seen discussing the game wants that sword and the masks of the 4 Rabbits too.

So I got to the giant police puppet in Lies of P. The fights went well until the 2nd half of the battle when he used that faggot grab and started electifying itself. I used consumables to counter the effect but it wasn't perfect and me perfect blocking 80% of his attacks apparently wasn't enough so I had to use a specter and he got clapped in a matter of minutes. What a fucking bullshit boss

>>991016 The Specter is more like a Bloodborne or DS3 phantom than anything like a DS2 phantom. He can pull aggro an do some damage but you've got to do most of the heavy lifting. like 20/80 or 30/70. Later on you can improve the Specter's surviability and output. >and me perfect blocking 80% of his attacks apparently wasn't enough It's really not. You need to be doing better than 95% accuracy with perfect blocks or you're better off dodging or doing regular blocks that let you rally some health back. What weapon are you using and are you making sure that you aren't letting your weight getting too high?

>>990947 Whet the hell is the commentary at the end

>>991022 The glaive you start with.

>>991016 It's fine, you'll meet him again, sorta. Don't miss the fire dagger in the next zone btw.

>>991022 >>991022 Funny enough, it was about that ratio until the last half of the fight

https:// youtube.com/watch?v=7U6WSw-Q8dQ&pp=ygUTbGllcyBvZiBwIHR5cmFuaWNvbg%3D%3D lol

>>991031 I think I used the electric coil even though he immune to electricity. The electric coil also does blunt damage so I guess that's why it worked so well for me. Don't even bother using the self buff, just swing away. I guess you could also use the police baton since it's blunt and it's also really fast.

>>991047 But then you do no damage and have no range though. I've been using a police baton handle with the greatsword blade I got from the beginning of the game and it absolutely smokes normal enemies way better than the glaive but is terrible against bosses

Is somewhat heavy too heavy for Lies of P?

>>991023 If you mean the one with the dragons and "Godwyn doesn't loose", it's a continuation of this video. I divided the video into two parts to take advantage of the 50MB file limit. In the first part Placidusax visits all the dragons in the base game and is disgusted by how much his race has fallen. In the second part it's mostly about Lansseax(the dragon who shapeshifts as a human priestess to train knights and in this video was the dragon GF of Vyke who took the Frenzied Flame path and broke her heart) and her brother Fortissax( who is Godwyn's best friend as he tries to fight off the death plague, and you fight him in the dream world or whatever that was) talking about Vyke and Godwyn who NEVER LOOSES! He KEEPS WINING! If you mean the commentary before that, it's jsut some meta shit that the creator of these videos won't do any more Elden Ring videos, and instead focus on superhero AI voice videos.

>>991122 Yes in my experience it is. I focused on dodging and kiting with light weapons a instead of perfect blocks. You can probably get away with it if you're using the shield or your perfect guards are up to snuff. What I did was level my capacity before everything else so that I was always in the lightest category with the best accessories I could get at the moment and what ever weapon I was using. Wot rings U got? I'm pretty sure that you can get a electrical resist converter before the Watchman. Also carry and use purification and resistance potions. If you get inflicted with electric shock you take more damage from electricity until it wears off or is cured. >>991118 Like I said he's weak against blunt and you're limited at this stage in the game for blunt attacks. Stabs are another option. He's resistant to slash which is what the glaive does. If you keep having trouble try the rapier. And if you have any throwable consumables DO NOT sleep on them. They can break bosses wide open. Depending on your build you might even need them to break the posture of late game bosses and minibosses.

>>991136 >>991141

So, what's the secret to beating the 3 story robot in the factory in Lies of P? Do I really have to slash him 2-3 times and then leave the toxic pool of water back and forth until I beat him?

>>991364 Would you? In the armor?

>>991457 Either tank the poison or explore the factory until you find the lever to turn off the toxic shit

>>991457 Find pipe to turn off the gas. Then stay between the legs to chip away at him. Note you'll always encounter at least 2-3 more later but they're optional as well. Same idea applies.

>>991457 He's actually not that hard just a lot of health and hits like a truck but like the others said just come back to him after you turn the sludge off. From this stage on you should really endeavor to explore thoroughly. There's secret nooks everywhere.

>whoopsuru, arr questo a fuckuru wwwww fuck you too, Mitsubishi-san

>>991651 It's always been kind of a thing but but it really stands out and becomes a problem in an open world game. The whole DLC is kind of wonky rn from what I've heard. I've held off playing it at all because of this.