>>24881 hopefully never, we already have enoug dogshit

>>24881 Never. World building is too hard for ADHD zoomers.

>>24881 never, japans writing industry relies on using first time writers. And for what remains, it's considered too risky to make something original rather than pumping out the same tested isekai cheat power slop.

>>24881 never because it's a genre for wish fulfillment low hanging fruit. mushoku tensei was a rare exception of an actual good story in the genre. what's more since 2021 a lot of new isekai have started copying aspects of MT's story but still failed to rise above being completely banal, shallow, tropey tripe made for a target audience of retards.

Nope.They are already higher. And pic related is superior

>>25676 Ishura aired last season and it was already way better than drifters though

>>25694 >SHITura lol no

reincarnation isekai is never going to get as good as Frieren so why bother asking this kind of thing

>>24881 Never, it's unsurpassable. Nothing after it will have the same amount of sovl.

>>24881 I feel like we finally reached the end of Isekai era and we're bound to move on to the next big thing. We just haven't found it yet.

>>24881 The level of cringy edginess? Why would you want more of that?

>>25152 >worldbuilding It's very basic as a setting, though? It's only the visual world-building that stands out in the anime, and that's on the studio, not the writer. Nevermind that, the autistic focus on world-building as opposed to plot, theme, character and prose (what makes a story actually good) are exactly why so much of fantasy in the west today is dogshit.

>>24881 I dont understand how /nu/ isekai have all these examples of good stories but fail to learn from them.

Kill yourself mt cuck

Based anime

>>24881 it already is. all of it.

>>42485 I think Mushoku strikes a pretty good balance in showcasing its worldbuilding while also advancing the story and characters. But even if the focus is on worldbuilding there are still those of us like me who enjoy it as long as it's well made. Dogshit worldbuilding (ie. everything is just a generic JRPG) makes for a dogshit anime

>>24881 Just reading this thread, we have a few people calling it dogshit, but have you noticed no one has started going on about how it's evil because Rudeus is a pedobear yet? On 4chan when we have MT threads, 50 posters instantly spam the thread calling it evil and selfish. I remember arguing against some guy who just couldn't seem to understand the concept that sometimes selfish wish fulfillment is good. Were all those posters just bots and shills with agendas the whole time?

>>24881 Never, I've watched plenty of isekai by now but this is the only one where I'm reading the novels too.

>>43510 4ch/a/ had turned into an alternate haven for reddit tourists that wanted to spread their mental illness there too. Over here they're pretty much nonexistent yeah.

Indeed. A point of the story was Rudeus living his life properly this time completely changed the nature of the man, and even before the GOD OF MAN he begins to appear in the form of Rudeus instead of appearing as the fat old pedobearbear.

>>43510 yes they were literal discord trannies and/or mossad agents here's hoping they get laid off while 4chong is down

If I was Rudeus I would have completely left Norn until to walk inside her dorm room while it was nice and dark and we were all alone.

Honzuki is pretty good for a different audience.

>only appeared in 3 light novel volumes >a top 3 character how did he do it, bros

None them have Eris, so never.

>>45228 Good redemption arc and died too soon. In fact he shouldn't have died at all.

>>24881 One that I'm currently reading is coming close The LN specifically. The manga isn't doing it much justice.

>>62003 How much does that spider girl show up? I have arachnophobia, but I kinda want something new to read.

>>45656 dropped it after he died.

I dropped it after he took the elf's virginity

>>62006 She's the main girl but doesn't show up in the main story again until Vol.7

Magical Kurisu

Are we all in agreement that book 19 was the best by far?

>>62017 The marriage/magic school arc happens to be the most boring arc in the series. The Anime so far has ended at Vol. 12. The marriage arc ends with Vol. 13. Vol. 14 is when shit starts going down It really does start getting wild.

>>24881 >reach the level of Mushoku Tensei I think the real question is when will isekai as a whole produce something beyond mediocre. It still baffles me that Freiren is paraded as some masterpiece when its literally just a mediocre anime.

>>62062 For a "mediocre" story MT has some excellent reflections and character writing...

>>62048 King Pax was absolute kino I will admit, but much of the rest of the book was a bit bland and felt rushed.

>>62059 An endless adventure would be meaningless, those middle arcs are the transition to adulthood, including all the inner questioning of Rudeus.

>>62076 That's why I said boring, not bad. After all, it's the story of a man's life. Just wanted to let >>62017 know that they dropped the series at it's most "boring" point and that wild stuff is about to start

>>62088 don't (you) @ me I refuse to tolerate this cringe otaku MC any longer

>>62088 >wild stuff What's the "wild stuff" in MT? The mice moment is at the level of S;G but it isn't really dramatic, it's Rudeus understating his situation, reinterpreting his recent past and reconnecting the dots.

>>62094 pretty much what you vaguely expected happens Hitogami stops playing nice He also has a much greater ability to see the future than Rudeus does So Rudeus has to toe the line with Hitogami while also plotting his downfall for the rest of his life All the while Hitogami sends his other apostles to kill Rudeus or tries to get Rudeus to kill himself

>>62104 And yes that includes killing all of his wives and children through pure happenstance

>>62104 I see your point and why you consider the 'late part' more interesting. >I simply find interesting how the author turns the first part into the late part with that "SoL gap".

>>24881 >When will other isekai reach the level of this series that dropped in quality after the first arcs? There are plenty of examples. Konosuba is one of them. Mushoku Tensei is boring dogshit.

>>62179 Based on what?

Dropped the series after the last page in Redundant Reincarnation volume 2. Will pick up again after Redundant Reincarnation volume 3 is available.

>>62072 [spoiler] Zanoba’s resolve touched me, as a useless man. I know that the plot didn’t lead to anything more but it was the only book to have significantly moved me while reading it. I think in general a work of art should be judged by the best in it, by the things that will stick with you beyond the pages, and in this, book 19 has the most It didn’t have the most spectacle or worldbuilding, but I think I will always remember it fondest [/spoiler]

>>62276 I’m not fixing it

>>62184 He needs jiggling breasts and ass to keep his attention >>62280 test

>>62280 I don't know why your spoiler tag didn't work let me copy and paste the text you used

>>62280 >>62635 It still worked so somethings not working right

>>62637 It only works if both are in the same line.

There is nothing wrong with marrying your cousin.

>>24881 The average isekai is already bad enough.

>>62657 There is nothing wrong with marrying your mother.

>>62657 There are actually several advantages to marrying your cousin

>>62045 I will try reading it. If I can play over a thousand hours in skyrim, I'm sure I can hand a spider girl

>looking at the x-twitter account of the mushoku tensei anime account >merchandise of Roxy and Eris (teenage) >practically no Sylphiette White mamma really drew the short stick when she got the short boy hair.

>>24881 Literally the persona 5 of anime. >What normalfags project as "shit the ebil otaku enjoy" but for real (a dating simulator for incels/a generic powerfantasy isekai with a literal incel MC). >Gets justified as "one of the good ones" for asinine reasons (muh hecking press turn/muh convoluted 6 sided world lore that ends up not mattering in the end. >Turns out to only be decent when compared to what lowest common denominator goykuso that (((journos))) shill the goyim (FFkuso/rezero, kusosuba and overlord). >Overrated as fuck but with absurdly rabid fans thanks to said fans making it their entire personality. >Literally carried by days worth of video essays for the goyim to circlejerk how correct they are for liking something generic. >Worse than any actual entry in their respective genres, but fans will never enjoy those because they are allergic to good stuff thanks to kike brainwashing (octopath and other non-FF SE games, especially romancing saga/cautious hero, eminence, evil lord, etc). >After years the fans devolve by cannibalizing each other's virtue signaling until their only reason for liking it is "um akshually it's LE MATURE unlike all the kiddy shit in the genre" only to then act like manchildren when any criticism is presented in front of them.

>>66454 >"good stuff" >all hiatuskuso

>>62955 >>66389 Sylphiette is pure sex. Even with the comically large japanese style ears instead of proper western elf ears.

>>24881 We'll get peak isekai when we get a Hulk Hogan isekai where he kills niggers, faggots, and jews. BROTHER!!!!!!!

I started writing three Isekai series, focusing first on world building and creating characters... and then bang, AI... all that time wasted.

>>72465 ...and creating with AI is totally different from do it manually