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Aku no Hana Storytime #1 Aku No Hana 04/26/2025 (Sat) 13:46:37 Id: f5eb5f No. 59918
I want to share one of my favorite "coming of age" manga with you guys so I will try my hand at doing a daily chapter dump of it. Discussion is extremely encouraged but i realize that it's very hard to talk about anything without spoiling the events of the story. Please use spoilers when you want to point out things that are foreshadowed or haven't happened yet so that potential new readers can have a good time. For first time readers of Aku no Hana, enjoy the ride! Don't be intimidated by anons posting possible paragraphs worth of spoiler text; it's the nature of this work. The Flowers of Evil (Japanese: 惡の華, Aku no Hana) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Shūzō Oshimi. The story follows a middle school student named Takao Kasuga who's forced into a "contract" by fellow student Sawa Nakamura, after being caught stealing the gym clothes of his crush Nanako Saeki, and the series of events afterwards that follow these three characters.
Edited last time by justwannahelp on 06/09/2025 (Mon) 02:06:14.
>>59924 >>59925 >can't pass a basic test >tries to read fancy french lit Extremely realistic.
>>59929 >>59931 Be patient, she has autism?
>>59975 End of chapter 1. Not exactly a slow start but there's definitely much more to come.
>>59937 Alright, I get the type of pseud the author is going for with him.
>>59935 Takao barely passing and being mostly average is pretty uhh normal. >>59977 Pseud is in a way accurate yes.
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>>59951 The one mother ever who complains about literacy.
>>59963 hahaha What a spaz
>>59981 I had to check to see if this was real anon. I guess that's a good use of AI, i love it. Plz spoiler if you're gonna post any memes from further ahead
>>59979 >Takao barely passing and being mostly average is pretty uhh normal. Its a classic /lit/ trope for someone to fail at real academics but to obsess over trying to read complex philosophical literature to look clever. My post was a bit referential to that.
>>59988 I completely understood and i agree that he fits the archetype. We have to be patient with him...
>>59989 He's just a silly kid. Nothing wrong with that.
>>60003 That's the correct attitude to have towards him and to an extend the rest of the cast. From reading. From reading opinion pieces ages ago, many people couldn't stand the characters being unlike-able but i personally never found that to be true.
>>60009 That's certainly an opinion. The problem is that the he essentially harmed everyone in his hometown thanks to his actions and he has no excuse for his actions unlike Nakamura.
>>60011 You can argue that if Nakamura has an excuse then so does he to be honest. Their circumstances are less extreme but both stem from a similar place
>>60013 test
>>60013 Nakamura clearly has a backstory that the manga intentionally refuses to elaborate (her family) and last storytime on /a/ guess whether her father or mother is responsible for it. Kasuga only has a boring life living in an isolated location and only that but it doesn't excuse his actions. In honesty, I don't forgive him for breaking Saeki nor traumatising innocent children by flashing a knife at them and trying to commit suicide by fire with Nakamura. I do agree he's a just stupid kid though.
>>60021 You stance is perfectly acceptable i think. I guess i'm more forgiving towards the parts of him where i relate. It's very hard to put a line where improper behavior begins and mental illness starts, especially if we are blaming people for their actions.
Chapter 2
What's the point of dumping a manga? If you have something to say about it then just say it. If someone dumps something that effectively locks me out of discussing it for the entire duration of the dump since its such a terrible format for discussion.
>>61093 End of chapter 2
>>61077 As said in the OP, the idea is more to share the manga with people. Maybe a chance for someone to re-read it because i personally think it can be very revealing, but mostly to introduce it to new people that for any reason haven't read it yet. You don't have to feel locked out of discussing anything about it if everybody is respectful about spoilers. If anything i think dumping a manga is one of the better excuses to start discussing it.
>>61099 >the idea is more to share the manga with people Then make a convincing argument to read it because personally you have convinced me not to read it. What effort is there in just dumping a manga? Its just lazy and boring. Functionally, there is no difference between what you're doing and just linking mangadex here and demanding to know what we thought about it. In my opinion its shitposting.
>>61104 You are entitled to your opinion. I've enjoyed manga i didn't know about by anons doing daily threads. If it's annoying you on top of just feeling it's not for you then feel free to report it for shitposting i guess. I won't pretend like i'm familiar with every rule for this place and i'm not against stopping if enough people feel the same way as you.
>>61110 I would say just keep on keepin' on OP, you gave some pretty good reasons for doing what you are.
>>61126 >you gave some pretty good reasons for doing what you are I don't see any.
>>61077 I really like the daily dump threads. You get the experience of a reading a manga together with others which is nice. I'd compare it to having a book club but with much higher "thoroughness" since you can consider and discuss each page in a way you wouldn't if you meet up after finishing a book. Also, I don't have any IRL friends who read manga..
This manga is a total edgefest, it's amazing. I read the whole thing in a single day when I first started it years ago.
>>61431 I agree. I've also picked up a few manga from these threads which I ended up enjoying a lot. It also gives people a chance to just chat about the manga in general (without spoilers).
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I came back by today for chpt. 2 . Thanks for dumping it.
Why are Japanese schoolgirls so mean?
>>61901 If he makes this a regular thing for 50 days I'm leaving this place ASAP. I don't want a dogshit template with an OP copy pasted straight from Wikipedia that can be easily and infinitely repeated by any monkey sitting here for over a month and encouraging duplicates with the same crap that ruined 4chan /a/. I have absolutely no hope for this board if that's encouraged now. I will find somewhere else.
Please feel free to post this in the meta thread, but not here.
I need its anime season 2 like right now uhhh ohhhh
Chapter 3
>>62130 She's so excited
>>61051 >>61053 Probably the best reaction outside of calling her bluff.
>>61063 There's no one that understands a pervert better than a Frenchman.
>>62140 It's really interesting to keep track of which exact kind behavior triggers her reactions.
>>61069 Kid is still spazzing out after seeing his problem basically get solved for him. All he has to do is argue back against the class retard if she accuses him, and everyone will forget about this in a week.
>>62149 I love this "too" here and how it seems to resonate with him.
>>61078 I like the skull. She's clearly trying hard.
>>62152 End of chapter 3. I think half of the fun in this for me is understanding why the characters do the things they do.
>>62153 What do you think she's trying to do anon?
>>61091 >>61094 She's not exactly sneaky, is she?
>>62119 He really is a bit slow, isn't he?
>>62123 lol at her jaunty little walk She's having the time of her life here.
>>62165 She really is...
>>62155 She's basically playing up being very edgy and sadistic with the first person weak enough she can push him around. Who else is going to draw a little cartoon skull on her note? Everyone else (like the teacher) looks at her like a moron or freak whenever she pulls the bully act, because she's obviously just that, a moron or freak. He's the first person who she's able to push around and for whom her little routine works.
>>62134 Oh, this fucking kid.
What is the file limit per thread? I suppose i wouldn't want a chapter to be split up when it reaches it.
>>61919 just go to /animu/ they don't have ids there
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how does one go about attaining a sadistic Japanese school bully gf ?
>>62647 Itai
Oh gosh bros the prettiest girl in school is in love with me?! But she’s evil?? What do I dooooo broooos?!
Chapter 4
>>62748 Playful violence
>>62757 Kid's sketchy.
>>62762 She doesn't seem that popular.
>>62770 End of chapter 4. What did the hand smell like anons? I'm betting flowers.
>>62745 She's just an autistic girl with a sadism fetish, isn't she? Like, in a clinical sense.
Chapter 5
>>63398 Dans la ménagerie infâme de nos vices, Il en est un plus laid, plus méchant, plus immonde ! Quoiqu’il ne pousse ni grands gestes ni grands cris, Il ferait volontiers de la terre un débris Et dans un bâillement avalerait le monde ; C’est l’Ennui ! — l’oeil chargé d’un pleur involontaire, Il rêve d’échafauds en fumant son houka.
>>63406 End of chapter 5. >>63359 I wouldn't call her autistic personally.
>>63359 In a 'clinical' sense, she most likely has some sort of personality disorder (possibly BPD or antisocial), with some psychotic symptoms later in the story
A really interesting way to think about the characters is in the context of Charles Baudelaire (duh) as well as other existentialists.
>>63383 Aha . So he DID smell her pantsu. the truth comes out.
>>62768 Seeing how he'll fuck this up will be spectacular.
>>63407 >>63411 She reminds me of Rin from Katawa Shojo, if she got into BDSM pornography instead of painting.
Chapter 6
>>63828 Notable dress.
>>63842 End of volume 1. I guess i should post every page in case somebody is saving them.
>>63840 She glows from goodness.
Chapter 7
>>64322 End of chapter 7.
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Has anyone seen the anime ? It uses rotoscope animation or something. I watched one episode and decided against spoilering the mango
>>64526 Same, the style didn't click with me at all because the characters start off looking nothing like middle schoolers. I have enjoyed listening to the score which is suberb though.
>>64526 The manga unfortunately looks even worse than the anime.
Chapter 8
>>64619 Think Saeki 100% understood here? She seems to think that whatever comes out of his mouth is very "advanced".
>>64655 End of chapter 8.
Chapter 9
>>64976 End of chapter 9.
Chapter 10
>>65283 Well played.
>>65289 Good question.
>>65292 End of chapter 10.
time to get it on.
Chapter 11
>>65541 She's so precious
>>65546 I don't think he can handle the ideal relationship he seeks.
>>65561 I like this page.
>>65562 End of chapter 11.
Chapter 12
>>65873 End of chapter 12.
>>65846 walking inside with shoes on? pure unadulterated evil.
Chapter 13
>>66143 End of chapter 13.
Yesterday, I decided read ahead of the thread and ended up reading the whole thing. What Kasuga did to that guy was fucking brutal. How do you even recover from that?
>>66206 I guess you do if you're a more normal popular kind of guy? It was pretty hard to watch. First time was a page turner for me too. Did you enjoy it?
Chapter 14
>>66374 End of chapter 14.
>>66212 I liked it. I feel like I speed read it, but I guess that comes with binge reading, here's some stuff I liked. Kasuga's arc going from delinquent to weird quiet guy to normal guy. How part 2 feels so different to part 1, complete with the season changing from summer to winter and ending in spring. Saeki's good girl going bad thing. She's honestly more perverted than Nakamura, forcing herself on him in another girl's panty tent and changing her hair to look more like Nakamura. Didn't care for Nakamura's reasoning in part 1, but I like how much she mellowed out while retaining her personality. The run up to the suicide felt really romantic. The I'm home and beach scenes really made me smile. That town really fucking sucks. Kouji lost his gf on Christmas eve and the translator got his name wrong, but Kinoshita still suffers more.
>>66508 Glad you enjoyed. By re-reading it I've come to appreciate the second part more and more. It feels like that's the story the author really wants to tell. I still love the first part and many scenes from it. As opposed to the start of it, the end of adolescence is hard to define. People do it on their own terms, at their own pace. I love how it tried to show different levels of existential angst through it all. What I love about Kasuga is that he really has no excuse for acting the way he acts. There is no tragic backstory to make him a "relatable villain" early on, yet to me his reasons make sense. Striving for authenticity is certainly a huge task, and the teenage years cruel in many ways. Setting aside good or bad Saeki was just a lot more conformist in her needs. The need to appeal, connect and relate to other people exists within every one, even someone like Nakamura, who was elated when she "discovered" another deviant she could share the burden of her existence with. But yes the lengths Saeki goes through to try and connect with Kasuga were very dramatic. In a way he was what Nakamura was to him. I hope she "killed her ghost" in the end. Nakamura went from being a bit annoying and unlikable to me wanting to hug her by the end of it (she'd hate it). Her reasons were always mostly vaguely understood but she remained a mystery due to the severity of it. It becomes more clear at the very end. Many scenes with her and Kasuga are purposefully romantic. You can interpret them vandalizing their classroom as a sex scene between them, especially from her warped point of view and her thoughts about sex and the ideal of relationships. The final beach scene is my absolute favorite scene in the manga. It parallels the classroom scene in many ways, the future having to confront the past and generally an amazing ending before the epilogue. I will have to watch out for the translation quality. I think you read the fan translation which had him named Touji(?) for a while. The official translation also shits the bed near the end of part 1 in which case I will probably provide the fan translation which did a better job for some lines. Edited for spoilers, hopefully.
Chapter 15
>>66569 Hard to admit and say.
>>66575 End of chapter 15.
>>66518 >What I love about Kasuga is that he really has no excuse for acting the way he acts. There is no tragic backstory to make him a "relatable villain" early on, yet to me his reasons make sense. Striving for authenticity is certainly a huge task, and the teenage years cruel in many ways Are you capable of having a single original thought? Good lord, it's like this was written by a ten year old. This whole exchange is extremely strange and stupid, it's like a 13 year old girls commentary. How does this even happen?
>>66586 Please use spoilers
>>66587 No? Why the fuck would you make a thread where 100% of "discussion" needs to be spoilers? For two months? Nothing was even spoilered in that post, these aren't exciting twists. This is just so weird, this whole thread is just so weird and robotic. I really don't get how people like this can exist.
>>66588 Feel free to move out of the way and not engage.
>>66589 If something is wrong it should be stated that it is wrong. If this is some weird hugbox then why wouldn't you just do it on reddit? I don't see anything of worth happening here and if I'm not entitled to criticize it then why have an image board at all? Will the last gasps of this place be one moron talking to himself in a handful of shitty threads no one wants to look at? When I look at the catalogue now, well this place just plain stinks, it's looks just like 4shit but even slower with even lower quality, and if it isn't said people like you will never improve and they'll just shit up any place that doesn't immediately push them out. You suck dude.
>>66591 If you're not here to read the manga or discuss the manga you should leave. If you have issues with the thread talk to the moderation. You're completely out of place.
>>66593 Why don't you apply to be a janny? Pointing out that your commentary is stupid is entirely related to the manga being discussed and the thread itself, and just as I thought you're a whiny female brained retard that can't produce any value on its own. No wonder this board is dead.
And don't say "out of place" when the entire thread is just an endless dump with a brief and strange exchange with a fresh IP every other day. Good grief.
Has anyone else checked out the Beaudelaire wikipedia page? This was pretty cleverly written . It hits too close to home looking back
>>66598 >Has anyone else checked out the Beaudelaire wikipedia page lmao
>>66598 To be honest not really the wiki page. Which part is interesting anon? The general vibe was that of an irresponsible man.
>>66602 Self loathing . The pain of boredom driving us to do bad things. Ennui i think they call it although i used to think it meant something else. Its funny because i think back about all the bad things i did out of boredom at that age. very spot on.
>>66606 Boredom is really interesting to analyze. I remember Kierkegaard was trying to make a point that this sort of existential boredom was one of the worst states a human can find themselves in.
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I'm reading the pdf of Flowers of Evil now . brb.
>>66609 >Boredom is really interesting to analyze It really isn't. It's just attachment seeking stimulation, due a lack of discipline and goal oriented behavior combined with an abundance of ignorance. Baudelaire himself was heavily ridiculed throughout the 19th century as an immature and destructive sex pest, appropriate for the French, that didn't really see recognition until the 20th century in which the grotesque became a trendy mechanism for temporarily arresting the banality I assume morons experience daily, and debauchery became synonymous with being an artist. People really like to namedrop philosophers and artists without understanding their work, like a dunning kruger buzzword that somehow gives their comments authenticiy.
>>66630 Nietzsche in Beyond Good and Evil once warned of the danger of becoming a bore oneself. "Let us be careful lest out of pure honesty we eventually become saints and bores"
>>66753 Thanks azquotes, very enlightening, but that's bullshit because saints are generally extremely interesting people that produced extremely interesting works.
>>66753 Judging by the full quote and paragraph, and focusing less on the topic of Kierkegaard's boredom (Ennui or Acedia); It's interesting that it comes from the chapter about virtues. On one hand, a warning that mindless virtue following leads to dangerous and dull conformity, on the other hand Honesty being a virtue that even the ideal of the Übermensch, who create their own values and don't blindly conform, is a virtue they would be unable to get rid of (and shouldn't). Honesty and living authentically are closely tied to the "mood" of the spiritual boredom that would permeate somebody's existence. The root of it being spiritual and emotional isolation and enclosure from other people and inability of true self understanding. It all ties back to the concept of deviancy. Just my random thoughts.
>>66767 >Just my random thoughts. Where are the thoughts in this post?
Chapter 16
>>66832 End of chapter 16.
Saeki / Nakamura sandwich in the rain. What are the philosophical implications?
Chapter 17
>>67024 End of chapter 17.
Skipping the special chapter, on to chapter 18
>>67246 End of chapter 18.
Chapter 19
>>67385 End of chapter 19.
Chapter 20
>>67516 End of chapter 20.
>>67513 Why is she so strong? Does she work out?
>>67561 I think her speed is just superior.
Chapter 21
>>67617 End of chapter 21.
Chapter 22
>>67736 Gym pants huh.
>>67763 End of chapter 22. Only author notes remain.
Chapter 23
>>67872 End of chapter 23.
>>67866 What are the implications here?
>>67906 You'd risk finding out?
Chapter 24
>>67990 End of chapter 24.
>>67967 Is she secretly into it? Will they start a thrill kill sex cult together ? Will he get even a crumb of pussy after all of this? So many questions.
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It's pretty tense seeing them hurtle toward self destruction like this. This is getting pretty good.
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>>68002 お楽しみに!
Continuing in a new thread because this one hit the limit. >>68075


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