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HEY FAGGOT MODS Strelok 03/31/2023 (Fri) 07:23:03 No. 2233
Why does the 3d printed gun thread keep getting deleted? If you can at least give me an answer, that would be so nice.
GUNS GUNS GUNS GET YER GUNS AT THIS HERE DARKWEB ADDRESS looks like every other piece of darkweb spam the site receives, and spam gets deleted. Simple as.
Fair enough. But have you even checked the link? Or do you just assume it's fake?
>>2235 >Clicking random URLs Anon they've been teaching people not to do that ever since the internet made it to public institutions.
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>>2236 Tor+Linux+noJavascript here I click whatever I wish to click.
Thank you for being honest/transparent about the reason for the deletion.
What 3D printer do you nerds use to print your guns? OP, do you have a mega link to download your 3D archive?
>>2239 >Which printer I mean that is but it also isn't how it works, anon. The specifications of your extruder and memory limits typically matter much more than brand with 3D printers since most are DIY if you don't want to pay 700% markup. That's like asking which brand of Microsoft is your favorite when asking about laptops.
>>2240 >I mean that is but it also isn't how it works, anon. So, how does it work?
>>2241 Well for one, are you looking for an fused deposition model (filament-fed) printer, a fusion printer (powdered material is dropped and fused) or a resin printer? Filament printers are cheaper but are going to typically have lower resolution and more issues while a resin printer will be one smooth body but doesn't allow for metal printing, only resin polymers, with fusion printers being something halfway between but with the weaknesses of both types. There's also directed energy deposition printers that directly melt metal to form parts, but those can get pricey (the advantage is you can buy a hybrid CNC/DED machine to do both). There's also sheet lamination printers that build up sheet-layers of material, cut them, then compress them into the final shape, but at that point a lower jig would be cheaper except at volume. Then there's the print bed. 3D printers become exponentially more expensive the larger they are, so do you settle for a print bed that can only print handguns but at 1/20th of the cost? Do you intend to print individual parts or to use a solid block design as that can make a difference in the size of printer you need. Similarly if you're cheap and going with a standard FDM filament printer, do you go with a heating element that can only handle ABS, or do you get one of the fancier ones? Do you buy a PLA printer and then have your 3D printed guns explode/melt in your hands like a retard? Do you go for a metal extrusion printer even though they are much more expensive? That doesn't even get into things like the max accuracy of an extruder, and you have to keep in mind there's no real regulations on extruders so Chinese companies will frequently LIE about the capabilities of their extruder which could also cause the gun to blow up in your hand from a loose air pocket because the extruder wasn't putting down thin enough layers, but then the thinner/finer the layers, the longer the build will take going into hours or days easily, so do you keep one shit printer and one high-quality one depending on your project? If you intend to make your own files, do you have a decent CAD program? Most of the FOSS ones are absolute fucking shit, but the proprietary ones cost $10,000-$30,000 for a one-year loicense and they will have you on the hook if you pirate a copy and they happen to find out (which is much harder than pirating an anime or movie since most private businesses use the $200 student edition that has a million restrictions and then just export it to the one working max-dollar loicense computer so it doesn't say "student edition" on the schematics), you're gonna be royally fucked. I suppose what I mean is, we think about a "good computer" or "bad computer" in terms of RAM, CPU, ethernet card speeds, screen size, etc. and the company that makes it (if you don't DIY) is typically secondary information unless a particular company has a bad reputation. 3D printers are the same way.
>>2233 Do they even work?
>>2242 >Do you buy a PLA printer and then have your 3D printed guns explode/melt in your hands like a retard? >mfw only have PLA filament

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Have a copy of Babby's first 3D printed gun files: https://anonfiles.com/M8dev7i9z1/Funs_2hus_7z You're gonna want to remember the phrase "Fatc​h0ol!3" Copy/paste won't work. 4.8 Fosscad megapack was released since then as was 4.9 alpha so you can find it at the readme link. I haven't checked the differences yet but their folder is smaller than the Ar/k/ files. >>2244 PLA is very useful for many things because it's rigid, cheap, and more or less biodegradable, but it also can't handle physical stress/heat stress and becomes brittle. Realistically you could make a gun with it but it would be a ticking time bomb after a hundred or so shots. In comparison ABS and PETG filaments are much stronger/durable and make for a much better firearm frame. Thankfully for you (and others), most 3D gun designs were made by hobbyists who knew that people would want to "grab-and-go" with their files, so when using prefabbed files they are typically designed around the assumption that someone will throw it into a PLA printer and either withstand a few hundred shots before failing or fail in such a way that doesn't critically endanger the user. The bigger issue is that someone might be using the wrong size of extruder, but ultimately that is their own fault. On the bright side if you have a printer already able to handle PLA it's usually not that hard to mod the extruder or buy a second extruder to handle a different filament since the differences are primary pump rate and melt temperature. The "gold standard" for 3D printed firearms is high-temp reinforced nylon filament by the way, but that can be a little tricky for beginners so fuck around with PLA/ABS before buying a nylon-capable extruder because reinforced nylon (carbon nylon) costs about $100/kg for material.
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>>2243 Yes, but you have to understand the restrictions involved. There are basically three types of 3D printed firearms depending on what you want: >3D printed firearms These are what everybody thinks of and they are also the most worthless/least common firearm in the hobbyist realm. The original 2013 Liberator, the songbird, and the PM522 Washbear revolver are all examples of a 3D printed firearm. In the original liberator for instance, only the firing pin is a non-3D-printed piece (presumably you would make it out of ceramic to avoid a metal detector). These weapons are inferior to a pipe shotgun in every way except being more easily concealable so they are mostly just a "fuck you" to federal governments around the world since the only real purposes they serve are political assassination and raiding an armory for better guns. >Hybrid Firearms These are more common in 3D print builds. It's really just a way to say "it's more than just a part, but it's not replacing everything." Typically guns that use a metal upper receiver and a 3D printed lower receiver are considered "hybrid firearms." The idea is that you would have access to certain commercial gun parts on the market without being traced but you don't want a serial number tied to your gun. Think of these designs as similar to buying an aluminum block or an 80% lower and jigging it yourself then buying all the other gun parts to complete the gun, just 3D printing instead of shaving material. These primarily have the benefit of still maintaining the structural integrity of a gun but without having to buy traced parts. >3D Printed Parts/Kits These are basically "poor man replacement" parts and are the most common 3D print builds. Basically 3D printing magazines, suppressors, pins, ammunition, etc. They have various degrees of usefulness and purpose but typically this is what people actually want out of a 3D printer. All of them "work" but you may or may not have a need for one since presumably someone who can afford to 3D print an entire gun can afford to jig it out of metal. The benefit of 3D printed firearms is basically "even if you require a license for CNC operators, there is no way to reasonably restrict someone from purchasing all of the tools for a DIY 3D printer to build their own gun unless they ban manufacturing, so FUCK YOU."
>>2245 I'm a fucking retard and couldn't get it open myself. Tried fatchouli, patchouli, patche, fatchoolb, the character's last name, and basic case sensitive variants. Could I get a hint?
>>2247 Just remove the hidden empty space character in front of the c, anon.
>>2245 >Have a copy of Babby's first 3D printed gun files Doing God's work, anonkun
>>2245 How come after setting up settings in cura ultamaker to PSR's that he uses I can't select PLA+? Does one just use normal PLA cause this is some kind pozzed way to deter PLA+ users in newer cura versions?
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>>2233 GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET learn the rules
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>>2251 Are the numbers to the sides of the book thumbnails: "go to x page" or "this is the number of pages in this book"? I'm getting some serious ESL vibes here.
>>2237 based, same
>>2251 wouldn't 100 Deadly Skills be easier to do? like, I'd prefer my 100 Deadly Skills than 300+ pages of something that doesn't apply INTERNATIONALLY https://archive.org/details/100DeadlySkills_201811 for the book, you can use just the photos if ye want, the text is basically the photos but slightly more details and instructions it covers survival, infiltration, preparation and other stuff in just 100 ideas - def recommend to read/print as a handbook (print just the photos cuz those are simpler to digest than the textbook stuff, and if you'd just take the ~112 photos (extended ideas have ~2 or 3 photos, usually), print it as a booklet and boom, 4 book pages in one piece of paper, 112/4=28 pieces of paper+cardboard for a nice hardback, tho you do you, afterall
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>>2252 ??? see the top lines 15 files 337 pages 48mb I used a pdf merger for 15 seperate files and those are the page numbers in the big file >>2254 interesting book another 55mb download kek that infographic is focused on handguns & legal stuff in USA here is another for generic small arms
>>2255 >legal stuff in USA useless for non-USA niggas, like me and if we are to talk about 3d printed guns, it'd be mostly non-USA niggas chatting as in USA you could just make an AKM or AK74 or any AK out of a piece of 1mm thick sheet metal and gun parts that are legal to buy WITHOUT ID in most places (afaik) or that you could make yourself at home (the handguards, stock, pistol grips, vertical grips, horizontal grips and such can be eighter made out of wood or 3D printed easily; the barrel, piston and such are harder to do, the firing pin is the simplest and stuff like that) true, AR-15s are "muh lego gun" but both the lower and the upper require (usually) milling and most parts of the AR-15 are quite complex to build, while AK style rifles (while one is at it, might as well make it 5.56 compatible) aren't so easily built when they're in completed pieces, but the manufacturing of those pieces is way way simpler than any AR's pieces (if not 3D printed, and even if 3D printed, with the correct tools, the receiver of an AK can be made within 1 good day (if we are not to do a milled receiver, just a stamped one), while an AR demands a milled receiver and is more complex to manufacture true, once could argue that you could get a 80% lower and then get the other parts, but let's be resonable, you'd be on the lists instantly once you buy one, while if you make it, at home, silently, you would still be on lists, but on the other lists (instead of known possible gunsmith, you'd be on secretly known possible gunsmith; differance - resonable cause for warrants as the former would be known for a possible gun and stuff, while the latter would be known just for buying a 3D printer and (through satelites, but that would be infringement of privacy) buying construction equipment to make an AR upper, barrel and such (which again, if we'd use the satelite, it'd be infringement of privacy and such) for which reason you'd need to buy different tools at multiple shops and never delivered at home, and over the course of 6 months to hide it to the best of your ability, while you buy some othe tools as well that you'd use along the original tools for their main pre-destined job) tho since we already visited this board more than 0 times, we're already on the "gun curious" or "gun litterate" list (and boai, there's a fuckton of lists out there, and a lot of tags and categories and holy moly, just imagine how many tags an individual on this site would have) tho yeah "muh Tor browser" and "muh javascript.enable=false" mean jack shit, they know you, they know us, they know everyone, it's just that the regular John Doe wouldn't be able to proove that we are what we are through the current legal system, but the deep state, down in their dumbs, they fucking know all about us, they know everything about us by now, even our DNA, even our thoughs (check the US3951134A patent made in the FUCKING 70's, THEY HAVE US BY THE FUCKING BALLS FOR 50 YEARS ALREADY, WHY AREN'T WE FUCKING BACK FFS? WHY?) IK that I may say stuff THAT YOU ALREADY FUCKING KNOW, but, you might've forggoten about them, so this is a quick reminder, have a wonderful day ^^
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Probably the same reason that my bio-weapons thread got deleted. Mods are NIGGERS.


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