Here's a billion dollar idea for these console maker retards: >Step 1: Make your own gaming tablet with dogshit games, if you're sony, call it the PSP2 for nostalgia bait. >Step 2: Create the most loathsome, bottom of the barrel games with tons of youtuber/e-celeb collaboration. Steal ideas and mechanics from current mobile freeware if needed. >Step 3: Market exclusively to 12-16 year olds Thank me later.

I noticed this a while ago. Sony's quarterly reports list their hardware sales and their total licensed software sales for each period. PS5 hardware sales are, inexplicably, about even with PS2 in terms of timeframe since launch (PS2 total sales was only as legendarily high as it was because it kept selling steady for something like 10+ years). This is despite Sony now supporting way more regions and languages than they did in PS2 era (back then it was rare to go past Japanese+English+French+Euro Spanish+German+Italian with Japanese audio in Japan and English audio everywhere else, now it's 25 languages for first party software, almost half of which have audio tracks). The software sales however list PS4+PS5 software as a single unit (itself super shady). That rate wasn't boosted after PS5's launch and actually went down despite now tracking two systems. The bottom line is Sony (and MS) is absolutely fucked. Should have stuck to Japanese games with actually hot lesbians instead of banning fanservice instead of $400 million (pre-marketing) AAAA slop.

There's only one way to expand the market. Have sex anon.

>>1023732 They sure as hell won't be playing gAAAy games to boost the console market though.

He's not wrong but it's due to multiple issues >Mobile taking a huge chunk of casuals >PC actually competing and taking in most enthusiasts >Sony/Microsoft making expensive under powered locked down PCs and betting everything on unsustainable AAA multiplats for short term profit I don't think I have to mention the self sabotaging with outsourcing, money embezzlement and lack of exclusives. Consoles used to be convenient and cheap which is why the Switch is so successul along with the PS2 and the Wii, now they're "premium" bricks with no games

>>1023737 Board ate my webbum

>>1023739 >>1023737 Upload it to catbox

>>1023714 >make your first console >poison the well for consoles through a questionably legal move of turning them into cheap DVD players sold at a loss and creating huge amounts of e-waste >flood the market >make a second, better console with better games because you now know what you're doing >it sells well >oh, and it still plays DVDs >cut out a niche in the gaming market for mature audiences that your predecessor never could >make a handheld console >it's basically the first console but in your pocket >it sells very well >make a third console >give it no games >do not make it competitive with the PC, a market your competitor has an almost illegal monopoly on >but at least it can play cutting edge media >what's that? streaming? >consoles turn into paperweights >lose credibility online >nintendo? you mean the gameboy company? >lose your niche as a must-have for homes because your competitor read the market and barely unified exercise and technology for a cheap price >fund cinema-games at the end of its life cycle to try to do to games what HBO did to TV >manage to make another niche >valve? you mean the half-life guys? >lose credibility as people now port their games to the PC >make a second handheld console >give it cutting edge abilities too >it is literally the best handheld console to ever exist >nobody can develop for it >you do not market it >it dies because even your local competitor's child-blinding handheld was easier to make games for >make a fourth console >it's just the third console again >it has no games from launch >at least you still have part of the prestige gaming audience >make a fifth console >lose your inventory to indians and chinese >games are still being developed with your fourth console in mind >your competitors are buying all of the companies who used to work with you >the companies who still work with you port their best games to PC >wonder why your console sales have never matched the impact of the first system Sony is SEGA 2.

>>1023714 I think there's a few primary reasons for this. 1. The third world is still quite poor and adopted mobile gaming and low end PC gaming as it's entertainment of choice. Only ~10% of current global console sales come from outside of North America, Europe or Japan. 2. In the developed world, consoles have always primarily appealed to younger people; children and younger adults. Older adults game less and typically are satisfied by crummy mobile games and facebook webgame slop. Consoles only break into an older market when they have something other than gaming to offer them. Like the fitness craze of the Wii or the DVD playback capability of the PS2. So, given low birthrates, there are literally fewer young people, which is the console's core demographic. 3. Lack of improvement from previous generations I think is a significant factor as well. There are still hundreds of millions of 7th gen and 8th gen consoles out there. For people who were more hardcore gamers in the past, who became more casual as they got older, these consoles are still completely sufficient for them. The improvement in graphics between the 8th gen and the 9th gen is pretty marginal, not something an average joe is going to be blown away by (contrast this to the massive graphical jumps from generation to generation prior to the 6th gen), and in terms of gameplay, things have honestly been going backwards.

>>1023718 >make an app downloadable on all phones/tablets that already exist >make the app hack the device's security to access saved credit card information and allow purchases without confirmation >market exclusively to 5 year olds

>>1023743 >mixed up the PS1 and PS2 Fuck, the PS1 should have been >do a morally questionable move and just release what you had developed for your future competitor on the market >it sells very well while the PS2 should have been >poison the well for consoles through a questionably legal move of turning them into cheap DVD players sold at a loss and creating huge amounts of e-waste >flood the market

>>1023743 Forgot the part where the ps1 2 and 3 were sold as home computers to evade console taxes.

>>1023751 >poison the well The DVD player functionality was one thing but what really cemented the PS2's early dominance was the fact it launched in march of 2000, not only giving it an 18-month window to build a solid game library and install base until the Gamecube launch but also a 6-month period of de facto 6th gen home console monopoly due to the Dreamcast dying in march of 2001. Nintendo screwing themselves out of third-party support with the baffling decision to repeat the same mistake from the N64 along with Microsoft being relatively new to the market also helped in the years to come.

>>1023757 By "poison the well" I also meant the creation of a precedent that consoles have to also play movies and compete with media players. >make a second, better console with better games because you now know what you're doing was supposed to be followed by >it releases earlier than its competition because you're a real electronics company, unlike everyone else but I forgot to type that.

>>1023747 One more 4. Formulazation of gaming: Every new game, has a million microtransactions, DLC and season passes and they try to milk the player for every single nickle and time possible by getting playing one single game at a time. Plus they're all part of a tired franchise that only hardcore gamers give a shit about anymore. The big success stories of the last few years correspond with large console sale increases, because (shocker) people buy consoles to play games that they want to play. Games like Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy, TotK, Black Myth Wukong (in China) sell consoles. But there are very few of these types of games because the industry wants the safety of boring franchises, remakes, and live-service games. Few outside of existing fans buy consoles for the following: >Call of Duty 21 >Far Cry 7 >Assasin's Creed 14 >The ~25th FIFA/Madden/NHL/PGA Tour game >The 4th re-release of GTA 5 >The 5th re-release of Skyrim >The 9th(?) re-release of Minecraft >Generic remakes of beloved games (Resident Evil 1-4, Silent Hill 2, Final Fantasy 7, Dead Space, Call of Duty MW 1-3, Star War Battlefront 1-2) etc.

https://archive.fo/NW0nl To put into perspective how bad they fucked up, Japan is now a viable PC gaming market when they used to be infamous for sticking to consoles like glue, because they decided to go out of their way to piss off the developers and gamers and tell them to fuck off. It's not rocket science, if you put upon too many restrictions and force developers to do crap like submit your game to two different boards for approval, or say they can't release a game at all, then your market share and software sales will decrease because guess what? You went out of your way to alienate your core supporters and encourage them to use other platforms like PC and mobile. I honestly think muh wife's boyfriend's Switch 2 will end up diminished in financial success as well, as projected performance probably won't match up with modern phone professors and the portability aspect has long since lost its novelty, not to mention that Nintendo is slowly starting to show its ESG hand in its quest to become the next Didney and started sapping its post-Iwata goodwill by viciously attacking any competitors and its own audience. >>1015942 >>1021411 Hell, I started this thread >>986877 because I inherently recognized that PC and mobile's larger install bases were going to benefit live service games way more than cucksoles; it makes zero sense if you want to expand your playerbase (and thus the slice of whales to hunt) by locking yourself down to a $500 box.

>>1023762 >1.6 billion That's not really all that much for an entire industry.

>>1023761 you can play dos games that perfected the point and click strategy formula all the way in the 90's. I'm sure it's the same with most genres, gaming can become a solved problem once you get the mechanics set

>>1023763 This is why you read, dumbass.

>>1023763 Japanese console game sale are only around $2.5 billion

>>1023761 >Generic remakes of beloved games (Resident Evil 1-4 You leave REmake out of this, I would be elated if this slew of generic over-the-shoulder bullshit was burned from history and game remakes were done like REmake was...back in 2002...22 years ago. I only just realized it's older than RE4. Instead of reflecting on that gorgeous remake, I'm sure it's next in line to get the "generic third person shooter" treatment.

>>1023747 >The third world is still quite poor and adopted mobile gaming and low end PC gaming as it's entertainment of choice. Unironically if those greedy retarded fucks didn't make so fucking expensive, and retarded too, to build their shitty consoles (and internet services too), and stopped giving a shit about piracy, or simply let it flow like in the PS1/PS2 days, consoles would sell gangbusters in LatAm and our insufferable cousin memexico, because everyone and their mother would've sello their mother and kidneys for a PS5/Xbone SeX. But nope, absolute autism happened, and while gringos Mutts pay 80$, in the other regions, the price goes to 85, and Even 90 or 100$, and that much for a SINGLE FUCKING GAME, is simply too much, even more with the constant crisis in LatAm, life costs, yadda yadda. >tl;dr Mutts poisoned the well, and nobody can cover the expenses of buying a console (also overpriced because jews and (((aranceles))) ) + Games expensive as hell while also being fucking shit + Paid online, and even with all of that, is even cheaper to just buy a PC in parts, paying internet, and just playing whatever the hell i want, pirated or not, without breaking the Bank. >T. Latin who was a Sony hardcore retard in PS1/PS2, but migrated to PC since PS3 because fuck you limiting my PS2 100+ games library to just 10 fucking games or Even less, i don't remember

>>1023811 Fuck off, shitskin scum. Instead of bitching about the "gringos", why not contribute a single thing of value to the world instead?

>>1023813 It can't do that. It, being nonwhite, is incapable of creative thought.

>>1023813 >>1023821 He's probably still whiter than you honestly

>>1023824 >shows a map that definitively disproves the claim Amazing.

>>1023732 I lol'd >>1023747 Those graphs hurt my soul.

>>1023813 >>1023821 Well, let us do it without you niggers getting in the way. Oh right, (((they))) don't what it to happen

>>1023811 >>1023824 >Spics who have race mixed with north Africans for nearly 800 years and then raped every native women they could find >Are trying to call anyone mutts

>>1023714 Consoles are kill because they used to be the cheap alternative to computers but now that a home computer, laptop and phones are powerful and widely available consoles have lost their niche in the market and the only possible way is to force exclusivity of games. But that also has failed since not only do console games suck dick and have very short lived exclusivity but also that there is a giant market of other games. >>1023732 I am short, balding, ugly, poor and unconfident. I have collected all the curses of not having sex.

>People have less money and free time than ever before >People have less reason to give up what little money and free time to buy shit products from shit companies >In every place where people regularly would/could buy video games or consoles nearly all populations are either stagnant or in decline It's almost like luxury and leisure markets can only really exist if the world isn't actively in trying to kill itself, couple that with the fact that it is now an "artificial market" since there's no reason to buy them besides "exclusivity" as consoles are just gimped PCs and you've got yet another instance of dinosaurs that refuse to face reality and instead use there last dying breaths to bring everyone down to there level of suffering using every crooked tactic in the book while also making every excuse possible for their inevitable failures

>>1023747 >1. The third world is still quite poor and adopted mobile gaming and low end PC gaming as it's entertainment of choice. Only ~10% of current global console sales come from outside of North America, Europe or Japan. Kind of like how South America is still producing and releasing brand new officially licensed Mega Drives (That play legit Genesis games) to this day? >>1023762 >Japan is now a viable PC gaming market Japan has always had a viable PC market. It's just the PC releases always played second fiddle to the big-budget console releases, just like here in the West until Steam changed the entire landscape in the later Aughts. >>1023811 >even more with the constant crisis in LatAm, life costs, yadda yadda. Have you guys ever thought of getting rid of your Socialist governments?

>>1023853 >Have you guys ever thought of getting rid of your Socialist governments? Only every time the U.S. sends us death squads.

>>1023743 First of all, the PS1 couldn't play DVDs. They didn't even exist when the PS1 came out. It played CDs, but so did the Sega CD and others. Also, PS1 totally had better games than PS2. And PS1 was already aiming at an older audience, pretty much the same as PS2 was. Genesis did it before them, too. But what's this about e-waste? How does playing DVDs contribute to that?

>>1023856 > PS1 totally had better games than PS2

>>1023855 The death squads will continue until morale improves.

>>1023856 >PS1 totally had better games than PS2 If you exclusively played JRPGs maybe

>>1023859 Vidya peaked in 1998. It's a scientific fact.

>>1023863 No. But even by the early 2000s I could see the golden age of 3d platformers and kart racers was over, replaced by shooters and RPGs. Boring But I do wanna know how playing DVDs contributed to e-waste. That's the main reason I posted. I'm very curious about it.

>>1023856 see the other posts >>1023758 >>1023751

>>1023864 That wasn't exclusively due to the PS1 >>1023867 There is nothing more boring than 3D platformers and Kart Racers. I'd rather fucking Peggle and Hexic than those.

>>1023864 >>1023864 >Vidya peaked in 1998. Oh god it's another flavour of GCtard nostalgia faggotry.

>>1023864 >Vidya peaked in 1998. If you could afford a high end PC to play Unreal...

>>1023859 PS1 did have better games than PS2.

>>1023811 >Build <Buy >Sello <Sell Fuck, i'm ashamed, i hate writing in phone while outside. >>1023813 We can, but if we do it, you niggers start tweaking and NEED to start medling in our business. In all honesty, people can do, and have done things befote, but fucking Cuba is a Cancer, and their fucking despicable ideology who has deep roots here >>1023839 This unironically, if not the muricans, then the fucking soviets/russians, or the chinese, or Even worse, the fucking cubans who Made Miami and Florida their entre headquarters. >>1023853 >Have you guys ever thought of getting rid of your Socialist governments? It's hard, REALLY HARD Not only because populism, retardness and such, i'm talking about absolute psychos who manipulate and commit fraud in the elections, so they can't simply abandon seat, not only because muh pawa and shit, but because all the shit they've done since the 90s-2000s until today. Hell, the indio from Bolivia, Evo, is Right now prosecuted because the fucker had a Child trafficking network, and even has some bastard childs from some girls who he raped while they had like 10-15 years.

>>1023875 >>1023864 I wouldn't say peaked, because that would imply that it immediately declined thereafter. Now I do believe that the beginning of the plateau phase of vidya took place thereabouts.

>>1023875 >another flavour of GCtard And there goes the thread.

>> 1023884 Thread's been going fine, you're the retard fucking it up.

>>1023870 I don't see how that contributes to e-waste. >>1023875 You mean normal /v/ users? I didn't say that number out of nowhere. It's a common opinion. 1999 is also the best year for movies, or at least the best in a long time, among filmfags. You're argument, if rephrased, is just saying that we are better off than ever now. Obviously that's not a popular opinion on this board. Look at the other threads around here. And rock music peaked in 1974. >>1023883 The decline was gradual at first. 1997 and 1999 were very close in quality to 1998. But things dropped off a cliff in 2007. I'm surprised the newfag above doesn't realize people here have been saying this for well over 10 years. People recognized it pretty soon after 2007. It didn't even just impact vidya. I figure the real factor was that the '90s were the Pax Americana, so the late 90s was near the end of that era, when things had a few years to keep getting better. 9/11 fucked shit up, but obviously many things were in development and released later, and trends take time to die. But by 2000 the trends of the 90s were over, and the new trends that kicked in sucked.

>>1023881 PS2 could play all the games from the PS1

>>1023888 >But by 2000 the trends of the 90s were over Absolutely not true, early 00s were late 90s lite

>>1023888 > I'm surprised the newfag above doesn't realize people here have been saying this for well over 10 years. No, he knows it, it's just he wants people silenced for saying it. The guy was spazzing out in the meta thread declaring that "anyone" who thinks video games were better before the BloodBorne machine and the Xbone is the "same person" who's hopping IPs to make a "board-wide consensus" that modern video games suck. Despite that never being the argument presented at any point before he started calling everyone his personal boogieman.

>>1023890 Not all, but they were PS1 games, not PS2 games. >>1023892 No wonder you're the retard fucking up this thread, you're the GCtard he was talking about. The people in the meta thread were right about you hopping IPs to fake board-wide consensuses over anything you're challenged on. Only 1 or 2 ever talked about modern video games at all, last time I saw you called out for your samefagging was the Japanese learning thread.

>>1023892 Shut the fuck up already you sperg, people are unto you.

>>1023891 I meant to say 2007. Very sorry. I would even argue 2000 was still the '90s. The '90s ended on 9/11, the same way the '60s began with the Kennedy assassination, and the '80s begin with Thatcher and Regan and end with the Berlin Wall. The 2000s maybe begin with 9/11 and end in 2007 or, at the latest, 2008. Obama is 2010s.

>>1023895 >But they were PS1 games DMC shits all over every PS1 ever released

>>1023892 Oh. He's doing it again. Even calling others samefag while himself very poorly samefagging. I wonder why someone would be so defensive over this topic. Obviously modern games aren't as good. Even sales indicate it. Apparently they peaked and plateaued 25 years ago (what year was that again)? Part of the factor is obviously that they're losing customers who would buy if good games were coming out. There are others, but if you abandon old customers and types of customers, you gotta earn even more new ones to make up for it. That's hard. Do more people like modern AAA than old games? Sales seem to say otherwise, especially since many big releases now are actually rereleases. Plus Nintendo, who pump out the same formula over and over and over. (Which is good compared to what the competition does, since at least the Mario formula is good.)

>>1023718 Won't they just use their phones?

>>1023896 Wait, what the fuck? Gcfag's so fucking stupid he's samefagging and doing his "no you and you're defensive about modern games" autopilot on someone advocating FOR psx against modern consoles? Hahaha jesus christ. Nobody likes that friendless fucking nigger, not even people who agree with him.

>>1023900 DMC isn't even good.

>>1023763 Japan is a tiny nation with a tiny population. Think about it per capita. Plus, 300% growth is huge in any market. >>1023811 >LatAm and our insufferable cousin memexico Latin America is the name of a region of Latin language speaking countries. Mexico is in LatAm. >>1023856 <How does playing DVDs contribute to that? >flood the market with a cheap electronic >people buy that electronic >people stop using that electronic once they no longer have a use for it (blu-rays, then streaming) >people throw away that electronic >stores have huge amounts of that electronic which can't be sold because demand has dried up >stores throw away that electronic >e-waste is made If you want to look at it from the market demand side, flooding the market expanded the low-quality games market, allowing for more shovelware, but that's neither here nor there, since it happens whenever any console becomes popular. The same phenomenon happened with movies, then music, then TV. >Also, PS1 totally had better games than PS2. I never implied the PS2 had better games. The PS3 should have killed Sony's console share, but it held on due to console war astroturfing, funneling money from its hardware divisions, exploiting legal loopholes, and its investments in prestige gaming. In an ideal world, consoles would be seen as a fad or transitioned to integration with long term appliances like exercise equipment and televisions and invested in AR and holograms rather than competing with computers after the arrival of popular consumer hardware customization. The transition to portable dominance is probably the best way it could go right now, aside from the previously mentioned exercise equipment integration, and Sony already forsook the true mobile market by killing the Vita. The only frontier the PC hasn't conquered is mobile gaming, but that's mostly dominated by smartphones which, while definitely capable of emulating hardware that should allow them to have better games than they currently do, already have the premiere market share in profits, and PC-mobile integration is showing signs of increasing as Eastern gaming habits drift to the West.

>>1024122 >Japan is a tiny nation with a tiny population. 123million is not tiny.

>>1024117 git gud

>>1023718 >>1023737 I don't know if anons know this, but the mobile market has been shrinking for years. In Japan alone it's struck by almost 20% since 2021 and globally it's down about 1.2% this year alone. "Peak mobile" so to say, has likely already happened. Layden also already touched on this. According to him there were less console gamers after the Wii, but it was "only" down 20 million. We can assume mobile captured the Wii hypercasuals, but it was less than 8% of the market. Mobile gaming has grown organically, not by siphoning off console gamers.

thing about the third world is you can't actually sell to it, they will pirate and reverse engineer everything you try and market.

I want Nintendo or anyone really do something that no one's either done before or already has been done before but without anything to distinguish it from the competition so basically a Virtual Boy Color but using the latest tech because those Switch profits gotta go somewhere and might be emulated on Spergbook compatible devices. Of coursh with Furukawa at the helm it's just gonna be the same Switch all over again.

Buy a PC

>>1024444(checked) Quads confirmed

>>1024444 And then apparently make an entire OS from scratch since your only other options are Windows, Apple, & open source trannyCoC autism hell. It's all quite depressing really.

>>1024459 Didn't read this thread but your off-topic derail about spergs instead of PlayStation platform sales is a sperg attack.

>>1024096 Of course not anon, because it's not "THE BRAND". Same way some morons get the "ick" when they see a person with an android device and not an apple phone. It's all about the social ladder, perception and appearances.

>>1023834 >Those graphs hurt my soul. Allow me to hurt it just a little bit more

>>1024122 >>people stop using that electronic once they no longer have a use for it (blu-rays, then streaming) This is an absurd argument. You're literally just saying that any electronic device that becomes obsolete eventually is e-waste. That applies to literally any electronic device ever, of course including every console. By the exact same logic, every PS1 was a piece of e-waste since the PS2 was backwards compatible and thus made the PS1 entirely obsolete. The PS2 having more features is not an argument for this. If anything it's an argument against it since instead of buying a separate device for DVDs and video games, they might just buy one. Plus, the PS2 played DVDs anyway, as they were beneficial due to more storage and other benefits. Xbox also did, but you needed to buy a special controller to actually play DVDs for some reason. And Gamecube used their proprietary version that was still sort of DVD but with some idea that piracy would be harder. But the point is that the CD was obsolete and DVD was going to be used anyway, so letting people use this DVD reader to read regular DVDs and not just PS2 DVDs does not increase e-waste. It's literally just a more efficient use of the same format that the competition was also using.

>>1024542 Master and Commander was the best movie game for the PS2. :^)

>>1023747 Why does everyone have a male surplus now?

>>1024565 This isn't "everyone," it's first world countries. A significant part of the surplus is "immigrants." You'll probably also hear that actually males are born at a slightly higher rate than females, but that is a very slight rate, and it's more than balanced out due to males dying more due to many reasons, including while they are very young.

>>1024503 It's the social ladder but iPhone users average 43.8% higher salaries than Android users in 2024. That's not just "perception and appearances." If they're morons you're a submoron, wrong where they're right.

>>1024570 It's not that having an iPhone makes you wealthier, or implies you're smarter and have made a smarter purchase, it's that you have to be more wealthy to afford the newest iPhone. It's a status symbol.

>>1024570 >expensive product vs cheaper products >woah people who buy the expensive product tend to have more money What's your point here?

>>1024571 >It's not that having an iPhone makes you wealthier, it's that you have to be more wealthy to afford the newest iPhone. It's a status symbol. No shit. >>1024503 said it was "perception and appearances." It's actual wealth. >or implies you're smarter Wealthier people are smarter on average and people with 43.8% higher salaries are a lot smarter than people without those salaries on average.

>>1024576 >Wealthier people are smarter on average and people with 43.8% higher salaries are a lot smarter than people without those salaries on average. Sure but you could definitely break down those stats more effectively, for example by just comparing the actual users of the products rather than merely comparing the correlating salaries. It would perhaps be an interesting thing to look into.

>>1024576 I have no idea what shilling and marketing has to do with the death of Vimm's Lair.

>>1024578 Sure, breaking down more indicators is more informative. Judging someone as wealthier and smarter for having an iPhone is still reliable when iPhone users average 43.8% higher salaries than Android users in 2024. Judges are right more than wrong.

>>1024581 Wealthier is more clear, since the correlation is more direct. Smarter is less direct, so you have to take it with a bigger grain of salt. There will be more times that the indirect correlation doesn't work out.

Wtf? I love Iphones now. I'm gonna pre-order a PS5 pro today.

>>1024586 Good point. New consoles cost money, so people who buy them are people with more money, and people with more money are smarter. Ergo if you don't buy new consoles, you're stupid.

>>1023714 I'm, shocked that the numbers aren't getting lower given how much they keep increasing the price on consoles. With the exception of the PS3 every fucking year the consoles get more and more expensive. Its hard to afford one console let alone all of them.

>>1024606 Population is increasing dramatically. If sales aren't rising, it means the percentage of the population who buys the product is decreasing.

>>1024576 >Wealthier people are smarter on average No.

>>1024608 Depends on if you count higher IQ as smarter. In one way it is, but higher IQ people are also the ones who can convince themselves to believe the most ridiculous bullshit. Doesn't matter if the proles believe the party line.

>>1024608 There is a reason why scam artists target rich people. The question is are rich people dumb for letting themselves get ripped off or are they making the rational choice for not giving a shit about saving what basically amounts to pennies to them?

>>1024607 >Population is increasing dramatically. I don't think so. As I understand it, the growth rate of the global human population has been slowing for decades.

>>1024613 For sure. Scams are rooted in preying on a lack of individual and collective wisdom. Doesn't matter how insignificant the loss or waste. Failure facilitates growth. The rich ,who are ignoring this, are going to retard themselves naturally.

>>1024634 Not if their eugenics program (behind closed doors) succeeds, while their state-controlled (iykyk) education systems remain in place, dumbing down the populace ever since they were employed by that devil Rockefeller.

>>1024140 git taste, edgelord.

>>1024530 Noone cares about worst korea's demographics though. >>1024443 There's no reason to provide hardware novelty if people lap up your console for bing bing wahoo. They learned that when the latter got in the way of the former with the wii u.

If were take into consideration the nintendo 2022 fiscal chart, the main demographics are 20-30 year olds. It's is somewhat alarming and somewhat not at the same time is how small the sub 20 demographic is. If you take the data at face value there's not much new blood coming in, on the other hand it's obvious they don't really have any buying power either. That 20 range spike could be just the wii kids deciding to get back into gaming again now that they have disposable income.

>>1024613 Scam artists don't target poor people not because poor people aren't easier to scam, scam artists target don't target poor people because poor people have no money. This is obvious.

>>1024662 >target don't target don't target. I added the extra target by mistake.

>>1024648 Being edgy is the mark of intelligent people. >>1024657 The younger ones are simply realizing (or being taught) that pirating older games is better than buying new ones. There is no reason to spend money just because I have disposable income to do so. I can get good games for free.

>>1025290 >I can get good games for free. The funny thing is that I'm a buyfag, and the truth is that you really don't have to buy games anymore because the companies are releasing them for free left and right. From everything as recent as AAA games like GotG and The Calisto Protocol to old-as-shit games like Wonder Boy and the Ikari trilogy. In some ways, it's very beneficial as majority of the games that I do want to play I no longer have to buy in order to do so, so I can spend that money on other things instead.

I just read a rumour that Sony is going to remaster/remake the Greek games from God of War. It truly is a console of nothing but remakes at this point.

>>1024657 >That 20 range spike could be just the wii kids deciding to get back into gaming again now that they have disposable income. Or it's people lying about their age. Isn't 20 Japan's age of adulthood, at least in some contexts?

>>1025298 Save the money instead. There is nothing more pleasant than to ruin the jewish economy.

>>1025312 It is a possiblity, kids could be attempting just to get around the age filter. However if the claim that the lack of new blood is true you will expect that huge spike be somewhere around the 23 or 24 mark in the 2024 or 2025 fiscal report.

>>1025341 >you're given a limited amount of vouchers to take from the jewish economy, so don't use that opportunity it's my bus fare to go steal something.

>>1024573 spending money is NOT having the money anymore, wealthy genius friend. iPhone users miss some nuance in his fact and buy one on debt.

>>1025894 Better a thief than to let the jewish economy thrive.

>>1025341 >save Doesn't exist. Currency printing happens faster than any savings interest rate at any bank or any investment in any financial service except for gold and silver, which is the only actual money. You cannot "save." It deprecates sitting in your vault. You can, however, convert currency immediately to real money.

>>1025902 But the point is they still get the gas money.

>>1025907 You can still save, you just have to put your money into hard assets rather than a bank account. For as much as a meme as buying gold is, it's still a finite resource - it's value will dip and surge depending on how much of it is in the market at any given point, but over time it's value will accrue rather than devaluate the way potentially infinite resources like abstract concepts such as money will. Owning land is another good long-term store of value, though you have to be much more active in the market because it's been booby trapped with a shit-ton of taxes and regulations. Lots of farmers have lost their asses because they were tied to a specific parcel of land and couldn't freely navigate the market, locking them in while property taxes slowly ate them alive.

>>1025913 Also, the government can just come in and steal your land whenever they feel like it if they feel like they have a better use for it than you do. They are "required" to give you a "fair market value" for the land they take - but you still don't get a choice in whether or not you can sell or what is taken. Losing a few key acres to "fair market value" is an easy way to devalue the rest of the attached land - allowing the government to snatch up the rest of your property for pennies on the dollar a few years down the road.

>>1025907 >>1025913 >>1025916 Don't forget that FDR also seized and made it illegal for Americans to even own gold. And it stayed that way for 40 years until Ford repealed the law.

>>1026053 Obeying the law is a mistake, in the first place. Overthrowing governments that want to command instead of be commanded is the way to go.

>>1025896 Saving gold doesn't mean you'll have anything to spend it on either. In some ways getting rid of the money gets you more than hodling does. Skills are the only thing you'll always have, and with them you'll always be able to get land and eventually sustenance.

>>1025376 The average age has been stable since Wii was new. It's 28 now and was 29 then, based on Nintendo's internal research. People who don't play Nintendo are keen to argue this because the data makes console war Nintoddler bait look silly.

>>1026212 Average age being stable doesn't make much sense over such a length of time. If people who were 29 and older during the Wii were still playing it, why would they magically stop buying game consoles in time for another generation to keep the average age the same for the Switch?

>>1026213 Another generation to grow up and keep the average age the same*

>>1026213 28 is the average age for people playing Switch, not the average age of people playing Nintendo. Someone who bought a Wii averaged 29 then but is older now. I'll concede I could have phrased my sentences better.

>>1026217 Adding to this, I don't think average people are brand fans who keep buying a company's consoles because it says Microsoft, Nintendo, or Sony on it. That's an online thing. Buying a PS2 doesn't mean buying a PS5.

>>1026213 If the average users age is increasing each year that implies you're not getting new blood and your audience will die with current users. If it's stable you're getting new blood in a steady rate.

It amuses me that the Switch is often ignored as a console by people like this former Playstation chairman and platform warriors on the Internet, just because it's not as powerful as the competition. The amount of mental gymnastics is rather impressive. These people forget it's never been hardware power that makes a console more successful than others but its games. >>1024401 There was indeed an article mentioning how much microtransaction purchases dropped in Japan for three years now https://automaton-media.com/en/news/microtransaction-purchases-in-japan-drop-for-third-consecutive-year/ I think the current economy has an influence but as the article suggested too, mobile games in Japan are now primarily 3D (as phones continue to improve in performance) instead of simply relying on 2D jpegs. Fate/GO is way past its glorious age while titles like Uma Musume (see webm related) and Gakuen Idolm@ster are all the rage these days. >>1024657 >It's is somewhat alarming and somewhat not at the same time is how small the sub 20 demographic is. I've simply assumed that teenagers often go through the phase of "Nintendo is for babies" that we likely went through ourselves. I sure did once, but back then there were true differences between Playstation and Nintendo, even PC was its own thing. Playstation was where I developed my tastes in various Japanese third-parties in the 2000's. Now the Nintendo Switch is my primary platform for said Japanese games since the PS brand rejected all its roots.

>>1026233 That is a good sign. It means that those companies will die too.

>>1023856 Based. >>1023747 >>1024657 Kids are also usually satisfied playing browser games and mobileshit just because of how accessible they are due to being 'free' and hardware-undemanding. And it's not like most of them nowadays give a shit about singleplayer games. It really is just young adults.

0% surprised. If there is a PS6, by some miracle, there is definitely no PS7.

>>1026233 >If the average users age is increasing each year that implies you're not getting new blood why would they with how shit the industry has become if they are not trying to nickle and dime you its censored trash a teenager or child would never play.

>>1030532 While emotionally feels good to say, it's not really true. Games as a medium are still growing, but mostly in PC and mobile spaces. It's consoles that are stagnant. Normies and kids don't really care about censorship either, assuming they're even playing the niche weeb games that are subject to western censors. Look at the Switch's sales, the average Switch owner is between the age of 22 to 43. There are more 40-year-olds who game on Switch than 10-year-olds.