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Baby 03/11/2024 (Mon) 01:27:57 No. 35255
What do we do once ABDL stuff is made illegal? With the KOSA bill looming over america I been wondering what will happen to the ABDL community. the bill will require you to use your legal ID to post on the internet and if a government assigned censor doesn't like what you post they can sue you. Basically if you're an ABDL you have to dox yourself and then let the government put you in a sex offenders list because they think diaper fetishism is the same as pedophilia. Then what do we do? I was thinking that I will have to publish I zine but that seems futile, it wouldn't reach anyone.
I believe a VPN service would resolve that.
You should already really be using a VPN.
>>35255 Sounds like an overly paranoid fantasy, but assuming that were to happen, it would mean that talking points like "ABDL/kink isn't like LGBT, you can't complain about what's done to you for who you are unless the government is doing it" would be decisively debunked, making ABDLs entitled to fight for their rights just as vocally as the LGBT community does.
>>35257 >>35261 This is not something a vpn will solve, KOSA also makes websites liable for what they host so general content sites like twitter wouldn't want the hassle. Fetishists will have to move to specialized sites that will be blocked by censors either way. >>35262 Everybody who produces and consumes porn of any sort will fall into that condition now.
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>>35263 >Fetishists will have to move It already happens all the time, like Tumblr and Patreon. VPN is the solution, KOSA will not be able to block content hosted outside America. Of course bigtechs like twitter will bend the knee to KOSA, but specialized sites will be okay.
>>35255 Diaper Jihad.
>>35267 KOSA will require websites outside of the US to submit to these laws or to not operate in the US, A VPN is only a fragile solution, those can be made illegal too.
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>>35274 > or to not operate in the US What do you mean? Something like The Great Firewall of China?
>>35275 Basically yes.
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>>35255 a bill to force your identity online to the public... would wipe my drives, trash everything I've ever owned, and kill the policians involved. Gather like-minded people (who don't even have to be abdl, but just internet folks). Tar and feather the fuckers. Film and post it from public libraries around the country from various accounts. Form a malitia of anons. Continue rampage until those that allowed the bill to pass are punished. Shit and piss myself on capitol hill. Patriot Pampers. >DON'T SKID ON ME
Gumroad just banned all NSFW content
>>35289 And once you wake up?
>>35416 Change myself... Change the government from within Never mention/associate with fetishistic content Soak up the swamp
>>35255 While I am concerned about KOSA, like other online censorship bills that have attempted at being passed and failed how is it supposed to be enforced? VPNs with anonymous payments are a thing and age checks are trivially easy to bypass even without a VPN. Also trying to prevent kids from accessing porn or being exposed to predators online seems like plugging holes on a sinking ship at this point.
>>35255 SCOTUS has repeatedly struck down parts of laws making anime porn illegal. The last time with PROTECT Act, they actually called out loser Senator McCain though not in name for wasting their time re-passing it. And stuck it down again. This isn’t right or left for SCOTUS. Unless It’s real Democrat activism, or photo-realistic Democrat activism used in a sting, it’s not illegal. All this may do is ban ABDL stuff on Twitter. Big deal. ABDL stuff will still go on 8chan, 4chan and FA. Diapers will still get sold.
>>35477 KOSA will require you to use your legal ID to log in into most websites. VPNs are a thing but they should not be a requirment to use the internet. >>35481 Requiring IDs and having state chosen censors means that ABDL can get tagged as CP and have everyone be put on a sex offenders list because of it, that's the really bad scenario and you know it'll happen.
>>35490 Take your meds.
>>35490 The bill does not require government ID verification. Actually managing that online would be a nightmare and plenty of tech companies don't want ID verification and should be lobbying against it since it would negatively affect their user base. It would also contradict the EU's GDPR. Also, I'm kind of doubtful the bill will pass at this point since it's had so much difficulty getting to the floor even after being amended. You can track the thing here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409/text
>>35490 Already plenty of discord servers that require you to send the moderators a face pic and a picture of you holding your ID...and retards actually do it. Just another way for gov'ment to come in and take people's rights just like they did after 9/11 all in the name of safety and "muh childrans"
>>35502 Personally I just immediately nope out of any Discord server that requires ID or phone number as verification. I get fighting bots and spammers, but that just seems rather draconian. I don't get why anyone is okay with that.
>>35502 I remember playing WoW classic a few years back and the guild I was in merged with another raiding guild and they wanted all core raiders to provide their name, phone number, two forms of ID and and even their fucking SSN for a "background check"... I'm not making this shit up. Seemed a bit silly to risk identity theft and other shit over some pixels in a dated game, so I got the fuck out of there quick.
>>35507 >>35516 You'd be surprised how easily people will give personal information and how many hoops people will jump through in the name of proposed/false safety.
Paypal has banned using it's services for adult content, their service already banned this but now they're forcing PIXIVfanbox to ban nsfw content or else they will stop servicing it. What do artists have left now?
>>35571 When did that take effect?
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>>35574 DANG! I just hope that the normal way of making NSFW commissions will still be available, and that the normal way of doing payments will still work as it did. With that said. R.I.P PixivFanbox users.
The government has a hard enough time keeping the lid on CP, I honestly doubt their ability to actually track, arrest, and sentence anyone who's ever bought adult diapers or engaged in any ageplay-adjacent fetish.
Gumroad has banned all NSFW content This truly is our blackest hour.
All of y'all acting like this isn't a big deal are right that the idea of the government specifically making a law regulating ABDL and diaper fetishism is ludicrous. However, you're crazy if you don't think it's getting harder and harder to find/host ABDL content online. The internet mainly just revolves around a bunch of social media websites which led to an explosion of ABDL content for a while as so many people could host content so easily. However, now all of the places that are used to hosting this content are cleaning it up and cracking down on it, and there's nothing equivalent to take it's place. All the normies aren't going anywhere, and most ABDLs aren't willing to make the jump to obscure platforms because there's no in-built audience and poor tools. I fantasize about the days when ABDL was pretty much regulated to obscure internet forums and paysites, but besides the fact that none of that stuff isn't around anymore, and would have to get rebuilt, do any of you remember how difficult it was to find ABDL content in the 2000s?!? Yeah paysites existed and occasionally you would find amateurs posting content on forums but it was nowhere near what we've had for the last ten years, and now that seems to be disappearing.
>>35571 https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=CnzBur0nPa8 The results from this might be why PayPal and others like patreon, Discord, twitter, gumroad, and so on are pushing to be so "anti porn" this and doing stupid shit like calling abdl/ar cp and so on. Nice to know abdl/ar isn't the 1st canary in the mine though (pretty sure that be shota, loli and so on that usually gets nuked 1st in the name of protecting children/and so on)
Why do Republicans keep taking individual liberties away? They've been doing it for years. What do they have to gain from it?
>>35978 >republicans are behind this You are retarded, you know that?
>>35979 Yes infact. That retard Marsha Blackburn is the one who sponsored it.
>>35980 It was also introduced by Blumenthal a democrat from CT. But if you look at the co-sponsors and add +1 dem for Blumenthal you have a 33-Rep 32-Dem 1-Ind sponsorship for this bill. Blaming any particular party is fucking retarded, these people are all the same they do shit like this regardless of party, to get votes from retarded voters that think their representatives are doing something, when they are doing nothing.
>>35981 The timing is still sus. This comes right after Repbulicans kept taking a huge number of personal freedoms away, including abortions, contraceptives, pornhub and hormone medicines. Democrats have historically never taken freedoms away, only Republicans. This is overwhelmingly one side. The question is: Why?
>>35989 >>35989 By letting the states make the call?
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>>35989 >The timing is still sus. This comes right after Repbulicans kept taking a huge number of personal freedoms away, including abortions, contraceptives, pornhub and hormone medicines. Democrats have historically never taken freedoms away, only Republicans. This is overwhelmingly one side. The question is: Why?
>>35989 >republicans took away [X] Supreme Court ruled citizens do not have a "constitutional right to abortion" which is correct, you also don't have a constitutional right to contraceptives, pornhub or hormone agonist drugs. The courts gave control over deciding the legality of these things to the states, as it should have always been. If you dont like your state's laws move to a different one that suits you and stop trying to turn the world into California.
>>35989 One man's freedom is another man's burden. You want free Healthcare? Someone either pays taxes for that or a doctor is enslaved. Gay marriage? Now we have to tax subsidize unions that don't even have the benefit of producing new citizens, which was the whole reason for the subsidy in the first place. A right to abortion? Funded by whom? Same with SRS, Medi-Cal funds that shit, the military funds that shit for enlisted. Republicans are tired of bearing the costs of others desires labelled as their "freedoms." Republicans are poorer, so they feel the sting of the inefficient economy first, While white democrats sit in their gated communities with security guards, poor whites watch their wages never increase as the price of everything else goes up, the free schools teach their children deviant crazy BS so now we have to have one spouse quit work to homeschool the, the immigrants vote for cash in pocket now, just like they did in South America, ruining those countries before coming here to repeat it. Argentina. Venezuela. Cuba. How did their socialist voting tendencies work out for those countries? Yet they're more than happy to come here and rest the process and rich whites will let them because they don't give a fuck about the next generation, they just want to stay in charge right now.
>>35998 How the fuck does your government get control over your browsing behavior? Or your private health procedures? Physically how do they do it? Are you required to report in with the police every week or something? In no real country in the entire world would the people ever allow their government to go this far
You're both retarded. Assuming that Republicans and conservatives are the only ones pushing these narratives is just flat out wrong. Democrats and liberals are just as happy to take away individual rights through different avenues. But if you think that the erosion of free speech on the internet and the fact that adult content is getting harder and harder to host on the internet is worth dismissing? Then you're also retarded. And relegating everything to state's rights is a fucking copout. We either need individual liberties or we fucking don't. I don't care if it's abortion, weed or gun rights, individual liberties need to be protected. Regulating things to state's decisions makes no sense and is a pussyfooting dance around whether or not you actually think that shit is worthwhile or not.
>>36013 They dont, they just yell at random companies to put a "please verify age" if it is coming from an IP from a state that imposed laws against pornography to "protected the minors". Its funny because they can only do this to named mainstream sites by asking the owner of said site, assuming they are a US owner, at the same time stormfront is perfectly legal for any child to view in any state. >In no real country in the entire world would the people ever allow their government to go this far https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/internet-censorship-map/ A lot of countries have banned torrenting, VPNs, and are attempting to ban encryption as a whole, because in most countries you dont own your own modem and router like you do in the US. Which is why any and all bans are circumvent-able here and hilariously meaningless.
>>36019 Republicans are supporting big government overreach though. Pornhub, abortion, hormone therapy, age of consent, exemptions from the law ... only Republicans let the government stick their fingers where they don't belong. This is a one-sided issue.
>>36028 Democrats are overwhelmingly trying to pass gun control and limiting free speech. Giving puberty blockers to children is abhorrent.
>>36022 >trying to ban encryption lol lmao, even they can try if they like the genie is so far out of the bottle it's in a different galaxy by now
>Thread has become a left-right slap fight
>>36028 Nah. Fuck off. I live in New Orleans and there was a Democrat politician a few years ago who campaigned against strip clubs specifically under the banner of wanting to protect women and proclaiming feminism left and right. She got shut down but the it's a valuable lesson in how when it comes to sexuality and freedom of expression people can very easily use leftist ideals like feminism and protecting women to hammer home the same destructive practices. It's the same shit as people using the religion hammer to force practices that are unnecessary on people due to their backward beliefs.
you fools, when diapers are illegal only criminals will shit themselves
>>36056 The only way to stop a bad guy shitting himself is a good guy shitting himself
>>36053 Thought you were going to say she was secretly /abdl/
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