This place is pretty dead. I saw that the /b/ refugee thread is busy

>>12106 yo

>>12106 hello

Where did everybody go? Are we finally free?

>>12111 Probably on soyjack, just to suffer on the super-qa/r9k chan. (for a few hours before it explodes).

I just wanted to say it was really cool going to one of the Nuggetfests and seeing that 20mm cannon go off. It was really all worth it for that, Oppenheimer's RP threads and the William Lind novel readalong. Ave nex alea

Yep, feels weird being back here after 6 years away.

I've been spending my time hopping between here and 8kun. The whole thing feels surreal, it's almost like the April Fools prank was a harbinger for this shit. Anyways, it's good to know that no matter what happens, there are always gonna be /k/ommandos out there posting our love of weapons.

>>12122 What's the difference between here and 8kun?

Will the /k/ancer make it over too? I stopped using and visiting /k/ back about 2014 and I'm honestly just doing a check in here to see if it metastasized if you guys are all still RINO jabbies slobbering for ww3 with russia and banning gun politics threads then yeah, /k/ culture is fucking dead and gone for good

>>12123 NTA but the OG 8chan was renamed 8kun about the time Jim stole it from Hotwheels, I prefer here because I don't want to give a guy that steals sites from cripples traffic.

>>12123 kun is honestly still a museum, a relic of a once-great place that got shitcanned due to Christchurch. Abandoned boards, empty threads, dead image links. The works. Now, it may see a resurgence of activity in the coming days & weeks, but only time will tell.

Seems pretty dead.

>>12127 It's kinda sad, because supposedly there's only 2 posters on their /k/ board right now

Where are my friends from /hg/?

>>12125 Nah, war is /k/ulture. Banning one side of the conflict is gay though.

>>12123 both are kinda dead, maybe this one retains a little more of the old 8chan plus the fringe of boards related to non-english IBs that died years ago. Iirc is the "successor"of 8chan is 8kun (same code or something like that) but it mutated into q-anon-only-chan, every other board is dead on 8kun. The fall of 8chan also killed endchan and now most of that chan is the russian board

>>12134 Anon cafe and julay.world are also gone. Hey, whatever happened to 7chan? Is it still up?

>>12137 It's up and there weapons board is under /w/. However, it's as active as this place is.

>>12106 I killed three dozen men on the trip over here and liberated France from the Ottomans (I since learned it was reconquered the moment I left).

>>12139 You did your best fren.

Pouring one out

just moved in, I'll stay here for a while. I need my connection to autistic gun nut anons. goodbye 4chan, it was a fun 19 years. /k/ related, recent acquisition.

>>12148 >trump slobbering might as well be a sub bitch to putin directly my initial asessment was right trumpists dont want to just "not bail out" Europe, they want to actively sabotage and wealen them as America generally has in matters of mil. security and self-determination for decades.

Nice to see people regrouping here. At least I have you fags even if I can't find where my other boards' anons ran off to.

>>12152 take it to /pol/ anon. This is a new place for us now, leave the invasion tourist shit behind you, we've got weapons to discuss.

if a gun could also become a woman, whats the lewdest thing u would do to it

>>12166 Woman bad

>>12167 but u bought gun, it yours tho, u can do whatever u want to it and it wont complain

>>12106 I might make a new thread for hunting for that North Korean helical mag footage here. Or I'll just hunt it down and post it here once I find it.

>>12132 Hello fellow refuge fren This site takes some getting used to ...also this is my first post here ever so feel free to newfag me

>>12123 8kun is solely occupied by /pol/ and Qtards

>>12125 At least this IB allows the creation of new boards. /warfare/ or something like that is possible, besides /k/ and /pol/ are SFW here, so it's incompatible with most war content.

>>12153 there's a couple on leftypol but I'm not going to be posting alongside any reds

>>12174 try to guide them back here

I was going to make my way over to OPchan. Didn't realize it was dead. I guess this is it then.

>>12106 >Anyone else make their way over yet? yeah not sure it's worth the hassle - I hope the old honeypot gets up and running again soon

>>12174 Ew pinkos. >>12175 If that's where they went we can get on fine without them. I'm sure more of the boys will filter in with time. There's a good handful on kiwi right now.

As long as nobody post this site on the soyjack wasteland, this chan will be ok.

>>12190 Make it count Ramirez

I've been going to k for so long, it's strange not to have it on my rotation of time wasting at work browsing. I know it's been shit for a long time and I don't think anything will be as fun as old k was. Still hope it comes back. I checked out OperatorChan and it was an even more gay version of k. I remember the entire GIRL! Tripfag era where it turned out it was a dude posting his sisters soft core porn pics. Also the meet up in PA was so much fun, still can't believe people shared food at that.

I just need my weekly fix of /msg/ or I start getting jittery

This is why we need a new alt-chan like operatorchan nignogs but less gay. When times like this happen.

>>12199 >this is why we need something we already have and I'm posting at.

the k at 8kun board has a few stalkers. can anyone explain what the fuck happened there? ive never been before, only aware of its existence

>>12201 After the Tarrant shooting of 2019 the media took 8chan as a scapegoat because he chose to livestream on 8chan besides other larger social network. That's why it was dead for some time. When it came back as 8kun the q-schizos took over and most users stop caring and migrated, idk the details because I was absent during that period. This chan was created as a alternative and it's a merge of other less known chans.

>>12202 fascinating. first i tell my friend to paint the 930 tactical he just got like it, the next day im posting on the same board. i wonder if this board will get comfy or overrun with shills

>>12205 Depends on if the tourists find this place, and I'm not talking about the refugees if you get what I mean

>>12205 No, shills are paid, they're always come early. chug is already on pol and it seems some hours ago a retard posted this site on soy**k so the flood of the usual trolls began on some boards.

>>12207 Frog posters do it for the (you)s, they'll stay on sharty for the higher traffic but now everyone is spread across a half dozen altchans we have entered a new era of raiding.

>>12209 I hope 4chan stays dead. The internet needs an injection of chaos every once in a while, and 4chan was the main supplier, but it's been stagnant for the last 10+ years.

>>12207 We'll see in the coming days, but I'd say we'll probably not see a complete hostile takeover here like we saw back home. I doubt the NCDfags are going to be willing to follow us over here.

>>12106 seemed slow but now it's faster. my last question was what laser based dry fire training tool was decent. I don't have a dot on my carry guns and would like to practice at home, is the strikeman systems worth 100 bucks?

>>12193 i remember leo(?) the guy larping as a scottish bag pipe playing cop that only carried +p++ loads. I also remember the deagle brand deagle guy that trolled everyone for a year and then finally broke down. then there was saiga that got arrested, the other idiots that got arrested too after driving to riots to watch, got sniffed out, chased and shot someone. good times. I kept going on to look at pretty pictures of Burt's guns and a few others. It was almost tolerable even with the influx of war tourists. and recently watching the canard debate was fun. sigh maybe two weeks.

>>12213 Just get a laserlyte cartridge for your gun, those have been great for me.

Been meandering, trying to see the sights. Most amicable is here so far.

>>12216 Thank you I'll check it out. I wasn't going to use the training stuff that came with either brand I mentioned I just wanted to get right on the X everytime when shooting, getting into the x and 9 ring constantly to the left was triggering.

At least this place lets you post under a vpn.

the /arg/ thread just went down. Either this site is gay or the mods are mega based because OP was a troon. Jury is still out

>>12237 makes you think...

Did the NAFO troons make it over to this /k/ too, or are we finally free of their shit?

>>12259 As long as the ziggers and their putin cocksucking stay in /pol/.

>>12259 spoke too soon >>12260 the ukraine lost, go to /pol/

>>12261 You can go back to your containment thread, nigger.

>>12262 i AM in my containment thread, nigger.

>>12259 No the psyop worked well enough on to many people now we have to deal with these faggots wherever we go. Worst part is their gaslighting that /k/ommandos have always been this way, when we very obviously haven't and don't care about this stupid slavshittery

>>12263 >>12264 The Russia is a third world shithole gas station with questionably working nukes. The US is superior to it culturally, economically, and in technology.

>>12264 its all so tiring. maybe i should stop larping on imageboards and actually go outside and shoot now if there truly is no escape

>>12264 >>12268 Sharty has a /k/ thread on /mtv/ but the sharty is mostly about shitposting so you wont have actual discussions easily or at all. But there seems to be no NAFO/NCD queers.

>>12270 Yeah to much shiptoasting for my tastes, not enough gunz

>>12259 >>12264 Between the shills and the mods banning anyone who disagreed with them, there are likely a lot of /k/ommandos who genuinely fell for the manufactured consensus that /k/ is psychotically pro Ukraine and that anyone who disagrees with even the most outlandish claims of the Ukrainian government is a Russian, who are a lesser race who must be hated with a frothing passion in order to fit in. Hell, I know I did for a few months before I went "Wait a fucking minute, what the fuck is wrong with me?". If we put in the effort and actually engage with them and educate them, we might be able to cure a few of them. 4chan probably won't be back up for at least a month, we could do irreparable harm to the jannies efforts in that time. >>12260 People don't have to suck Putin's cock to dislike Ukraine, and even if you hate Russia with all your racist little heart, you don't have to pretend Ukraine is currently winning the war. I suggest we take this discussion to the appropriate thread. Between the shills from both sides and the jannies banning everyone who tried to be objective on the topic of Ukraine, I'm sure nobody from 4chan's /k/ actually has a very clear picture of what is actually going on in the war, myself included. If we all work together we can do some research and figure out what is truly going on.

>>12259 >>12264 >>12267 >>12274 I was hoping we could leave this on 4/k/ but apparently not, heaps of OG /k/unts are pro-Ukraine for any number of reasons from field testing donated systems to kino footage to thinking allowing the east to annex part of the west is geopolitically retarded.

Honestly as long as jannies aren't banning anyone here for "anti" Ukrainian posts or anything that criticizes anything western military related it should level itself out again. The problem with old /k/ is that the jannies were overzealous and basically banned you if your weren't a democrat aligned, US government shill 24/7. Let people post freely and the problem will resolve itself. What people should be asking is if we should stay here or migrate to 8kun.

>>12106 Present.

>>12275 I wouldn't be that worried about it. The board had been healing slowly but surely, especially after the new year. A lot of people had stopped caring after the first few months of the war and many more had stopped after the election.. Regular threads were posted with more and more regularity and a lot of the most rabid Ukraine guys had went back to reddit or wherever else they had come from while a lot of our native Ukraine guys were starting to push back against some of the more egregious spamming. Not to say it was perfect, but this year was the first time in a while that I could start a /k/owboy thread without the first post being "what blew up this time" or something along those lines. The old stock /k/ommandos were finally starting to reassert themselves and I think they will here and on other boards as well.

>>12275 >I was hoping we could leave this on 4/k/ The jannies banned anyone who disagreed with you, you fell for a manufactured consensus. It's okay to just admit that you were just unaware that people disliked you. You guys got so out of control that the only times you would get banned was when you flooded threads with gore, and even then you guys usually got away with it. Meanwhile people who didn't worship Ukraine would get banned just for being neutral, much less pro Russia. You guys even developed a persecution complex over not being able to gore flood on a blue board whenever you saw someone be less pro-Ukraine than you. Can you understand how annoying this would be to people who didn't already agree with you? >heaps of OG /k/unts are pro-Ukraine I'm reasonably certain your little group had less than 15 people in it, and of you guys I think only about 3 were oldfags. Even on /k/ that's not much. It's just that anyone who disagreed with you was banned if they spoke up. Eventually the only people willing to argue with you were the people who were too dumb to take a hint and would just spam porn and gore back at you while screeching equally dumb pro-Russia shit. I know how easy it must have been for you to believe that everyone who disagreed with you was a retard, but that wasn't the case. >from field testing donated systems /k/ has never been pro government, so helping out the government by field testing the weapons they won't let us have doesn't win them any points with actual /k/ommandos. >kino footage Very little good footage has come from this conflict, and nearly everything Ukrainians put out is garbage that cuts to a different clip every quarter second while shitty phonk music plays, or it's just yet another fucking drone dropping a 40mm grenade on some guy who is either wounded and begging for his life or not paying attention. You guys circle jerking over that shit was gay as hell. >to thinking allowing the east to annex part of the west is geopolitically retarded. that's /pol/ shit. If you want to talk about race shit and culture war shit, take it there. If you want to talk about weapons, take it here. You haven't indicated any desire to talk about weapons or even about the war really. You just want to rant about how much you hate Russians don't you? >>12276 >The problem with old /k/ is that the jannies were overzealous and basically banned you if your weren't a democrat aligned, US government shill 24/7. Let people post freely and the problem will resolve itself. Amen brother. >if we should stay here or migrate to 8kun. my vote is for staying here. 8kun is full of cancer and their /k/ board is dead.

I think it would be a cool project in the future to create a dedicated bunker like operatorchan kind of use to be

>>12279 We still had wumao faggots spamming chink wunderweapons every day. I wish for a great firewall to filter out all the nogunz faggots from outside the western hemisphere.

>>12283 I'm pretty sure none of those were actual wumao. They were mostly trolls who knew that China shill threads got guaranteed replies, plus a few people who were genuinely interested in Chinese military equipment. >>12281 that could be cool, but for now let's focus on getting re established somewhere before splitting up again. Gotta keep the /k/ulture alive.

Does this board even have a moderator right now? I mean I can't imagine the guy who created it is even around anymore.

>>12285 That is a good point, I guess someone could make a GWG porn thread with uncensored nudity in the OP and see if they get banned. Anybody interested in taking one for the team here?

>>12280 I hate Russia because they can't into war. They sold us this lie of being so fucking cool they could go toe to toe with the U.S. and they fucked it up HARD. Having to deal with Putin threatening to NOOK us and boasting afterwards sealed the deal for me. Neither can I understand siding with them out of pure spite of the faggots and their pro-ukraine spiel when Russia absolutely fucking hates the U.S. and everything it stands for, including gun rights.

>>12290 It was never about supporting Russia, it's that any time a topic came up criticizing the US government for gun control or talking about how some states like Washington were getting fucked retarded shills would come in accusing everyone of being a "zigger" and shitting up the thread for not sucking the governments cock. This got especially obvious when Trump won and you had obvious tourists seething about him in non-related threads.

>>12290 >I hate Russia because they can't into war. You have been fed literally nothing but bullshit about what has been going on for 3 years, you are in no position to accurately assess how well they are doing. >They sold us this lie of being so fucking cool If you bought into propaganda and felt betrayed then, it's going to hurt even harder once you realize how badly you've been had this time. >they could go toe to toe with the U.S. They still probably can. >Having to deal with Putin threatening to NOOK us and boasting afterwards sealed the deal for me. At some point you're going to actually find out what the supposed "nook threats" were, and you'll probably be pretty embarrassed that you said this if you remember it. >Russia absolutely fucking hates the U.S. They hate our government, not us, and most of us Americans hate our government, certainly all of /k/ does. Russia's never done anything to hurt me, and I know a few Russians online who I think are nice people. >including gun rights. If the feds had it their way we'd have even less gun rights than the Russians. Just because we've managed to hold onto a tiny fraction of our right to bear arms doesn't mean that the government you so rabidly support doesn't desperately hate it. The US is one of the few countries in the world with decent gun rights, and most of NATO is far worse than Russia when it comes to gun ownership, and I'm certain you fucking love NATO.

>>12274 >The jannies banned anyone who disagreed with you I know and it's fucked. >less than 15 people in it If the mods here are cool and we get IDs we'll get a better idea of numbers assuming both sides wasn't 90% bots. >/k/ has never been pro government Being against regulation and LEO doesn't mean I want a weak military. >Very little good footage has come from this conflict The only way you can believe this is if you don't leave /k/ to look for it. >that's /pol/ shit You much be a newfag use to the new mods deleting everything if you think discussion of alliances, arms deals and the motives of conflicts is something new.

>>12295 You can hate the US government and Russia for their incompetence. Anyone that praises and supports Russia while being an American is no better than the spics that wave the Mexican flag while living in the US.

>>12293 I can agree with this. Many a leftie got too comfortable and tried starting shit. I just filtered and hid the posts/thread. However >>12295 is just fucking retarded and legitimately sucks Russian cock. Fuck my fellow Americans, go based and trad Russia! Those pan-faced Buryats and rapist Churkas? Oh, and the Chechens who beat you in front of your family and rape your kids for disrespecting the Quran? Real Americans, those fellas.

>the faggot /pol/ niggers are here /k/ has fallen......

>>12298 >I just filtered and hid the posts/thread. This would be fine if the retarded moderator/janitors wouldn't delete or ban anything that made them asshurt. Having a thread about what you could acquire in a nofunstate like Washington or Cali or talking about how much a piece of shit like the M1161 Growler was that the US just happened to be using would just lead to them being flooded with "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA VATNIK ZIGGER SHILL" and it got exhausting.

>>12300 >being flooded with Post examples or shut up.

>>12300 What threads were you frequenting then? Shit, it was either the question was retarded, and the thread died was answered quickly and the thread died or 2 retards got into an argument and kept bumping it until they got bored. Even then, I never saw more than 2-3 errant replies about zigger shills and everyone ignored them.

>>12295 Look, I get hating the Ukraine posters, I know I did and still do, but venerating Russia is just retarded. They made a poor showing in the opening months of the war and haven't recovered their image since then. Also thinking they could ever stand up to us is completely braindead. No single country could of course, but I figure even the Brits or Germs could put up a better fight than them. And yes, our government is shit. We have hated it, do hate it, and will continue to hate it. Such is our way. That doesn't mean we're going to start liking and preferring some foreign government out of spite for it though.

>>12296 >I know and it's fucked. well we've got a few of their names now, and all of their usernames. Have you seen this fat Canadian fuck /k/ janny who was doxxed? If anyone from Canada is reading this he is in the Huronia Handgun Club, wherever that is. >If the mods here are cool and we get IDs we'll get a better idea of numbers assuming both sides wasn't 90% bots. We'll probably ever know. Who knows what percentage of /k/ is going to end up here. Probably only the core userbase. There seem to be the only a few people who are pro Ukraine in this thread, while most of us seem to either be neutral or dislike Ukraine. >The only way you can believe this is if you don't leave /k/ to look for it. I meant by percentage rather than total quantity. Like the Iran-Iraq war has very little combat footage, but what there is was actually pretty good by the standards of home video of the era. Meanwhile footage from the Ukraine war is mostly fucking garbage, and the Ukrainian side produces far more of the garbage, while both sides seem to produce comparable quantities of decent shit. >You much be a newfag use to the new mods deleting everything if you think discussion of alliances, arms deals and the motives of conflicts is something new. That was just pathetic whining about race shit dolled up in fancy language. When you say "the east invading the west" you are really just screeching about defending your precious white race from your imagined Russian mongol hordes. >>12297 >You can hate the US government and Russia I have no reason to hate Russia, they've done nothing to harm me. The US government doesn't let me buy any of the cool shit they spend my money on to give to Ukraine. So I'm neutral on Russia, and against the US government. >for their incompetence Russia doesn't actually seem incompetent to me. You have gotten a very biased view of the war from 4chan's /k/, so you really should stop saying they are incompetent until you get a clearer picture of the situation. >Anyone that praises and supports Russia while being an American is no better than the spics that wave the Mexican flag while living in the US. >>12298 >reee if you don't hate Russia for no reason, you're sucking Russian cock! you don't deserve a serious response, you're a fucking retard. Russians have never done anything to harm me, and have never expressed a desire to do so, why would I hate them?

>>12304 If you weren't a fat retard you'd know Russia funds divisive discourse in the U.S. Like that image of RT speaking of tranny rights in Mexico and then talking about trannies in bathrooms in the U.S. You'd know about how much they hate our prosperity if you visited their fucking chans. Dumb nigger cattle.

>>12303 > I know I did and still do, but venerating Russia is just retarded. Where have I venerated Russia? I don't have any strong feelings about Russia one way or the other. You've become so used to being around psychotic extremists that you perceive someone saying "I don't hate them and I don't think they're incompetent" as worshiping them the "I'm a moderate" meme was supposed to be ironic, you weren't supposed to literally start believing that shit. >They made a poor showing in the opening months of the war and haven't recovered their image since then. Again, you haven't been getting accurate information for 3 years, you're in no position to assess what is going on. >hurr durr America military best evar, we do da gulf war, all da bad guys like Iraq, all weak, nobody can beat us You are fucking retarded, the US couldn't pull a Desert Storm on Iran, much less Russia. >I figure even the Brits or Germs could put up a better fight than them. You mean two countries with barely any air defenses? Neither of those countries could put up a better fight than Russia. >>12305 >If you weren't a fat retard you'd know Russia funds divisive discourse in the U.S. How does that hurt me? Convincing my retarded aunt of stupid shit doesn't hurt me, in fact laughter has health benefits. >they hate our freedums dude, Al-Qaeda didn't hate us for our freedom either, you need to stop falling for that line. It turns out that a lot of people around the world have legitimate reasons to dislike what the US government has done to them just as much as we have to hate the US government. Some people from those countries might direct that anger towards "Americans" as a nebulous body, just like you do with Russians, but that doesn't change the fact that there are underlying legitimate reasons for their anger.

Brothers, now is NOT the time for this. We are teetering on the edge of extinction. I'm not ready to make that leap into the abyss. We cannot throw away the first home we've found so quickly. Even if we get the board back in a few months, (we probably won't, ) we're already going to take a hit to poster numbers. Any more division could mean the death of /k/ulture altogether. Pro, Anti, etc., you're here because you like guns.

>>12307 We're all experienced channers here. We thrive on arguments and aren't going to get chased out of a place where we feel like we belong. I think it's worthwhile to get this long standing grievance out of the way early so we don't have too many people thinking that the Ukraine insanity was organic and bringing it over here.

>>12308 Agreed. >>12307 The absolute worst case scenario right now is that 1 or 2 of us leave, which I doubt since we all seem to be of one mind right now and are more worried about preservation than anything. Letting it simmer just means it explodes a few months down the road when we (hopefully) have a lot more people here and that could be disastrous.

I finally came here. On the night of 4chan /qa/shed out, I was preparing a schizo post about the future of guerrilla warfare and it's relation to bio-engineered food sources, water sources and salt based gunpowder replacements. More things made for off grid survival retrofitted for warfare Now I have to remake the whole point because I forgot to save the textfile. Ah well.

>>12308 It's never going to end because it's something a lot of anons actually care about on both sides. But yes we are all adults and can still talk to people when we disagree on one topic.

Hello refugees, I am not a refugee but someone who has fond memories of /k/. I stuck around 4/k/ for a year or two after the first exodus (because, frankly, /k/ had nothing to do with GamerNigger blastere) until there seemed to be a drastic shift in content and moderation. So I hope you guys make this board friendly and more active because some of my most fun imageboard times happened on /k/. I think my only regret was never going to a nuggetfest despite it being held close to me several times. And then when I had the means to go they seemed to stop. My pipe dream is one day it somehow being revived and actually attending. Preferably without any shenanigans with baked goods as was rumored.

Bangor, BicepHardthrust, bismuth, Greenman, karambit, Karbine, korwil, newton, Pavlov, slowturtle, Whigs those were all the moderators on /k/

>>12317 And here are the boards they moderated Netwon: /biz/, /ck/, /k/, /lit/, /o/, /out/, /r9k/, /tv/, /x/ Bangor: /k/ Bicephardthrust: /k/, /vg/, /vm/, /vmg/, /wsg/ Bismuth: /k/, /o/ Greenman: /k/ Karambit: /k/, /vm/, /x/, /xs/ Karabine: /k/ Korwil: /k/, /lit/ Pavlov: /k/ Slowturtle: /k/ Whigs: /k/, /pol/

>>12318 >Bicephardthrust >not moderating /fit/

>>12318 >not a single /k/ and /an/ crossover mod It's like they've forgotten all about our wife. no wonder things had gone to hell so hard over the past 5 years.

>>12152 this /pol/ shit is what turned 4cuc/k/ into an cesspit.

>>12304 >Like the Iran-Iraq war has very little combat footage I don't think either side had access to smartphones and hobby drones back then.

>>12317 >>12318 I was surprised to see how completely arbitrary the janny distribution was. /cm/ having no jannies at all is wild

>>12276 Put another one down for 8kun

>>12276 8kun is even jore dead this place. Jight as well ask if we should migrate to 7chan's /w/. Saw some people talking to ghosts there. Kind of unseemly p, like carving a graffito in an ancient tomb

>>12276 the only people on 8kun are /pol/tards and Jim's cult of Qtards, exactly the kind of people that are unwanted

>>12280 There was a brief period things got so bad on old /k/, like a couple months into the war spanning a period of 6-8 months where, unless you were in a general, posting gun related threads or asking gun related questions in non-general threads yielded you a ban or warning and your post got deleted. That's how bad the pro-ukraine mods were. The persecution complex pro-ukrainians have is retarded when they wrecked the entire board for so long under the justification that one dude, armatard, would come into the rare thread talking about international armies and hype up Russia from time to over the course of a couple years. Sorry niggers, but this doesn't give you free reign to fuck the entire board with your stupid bullshit. Don't even get me started on the retarded yuro noguns who legit get offended when you posit the idea that you don't care about the conflict. I guarantee you that 99% of people who hate the pro-ukraine people don't even care at all about the conflict and aren't even pro-russia, they just hate how shitted up everything is

>>12285 >>12286 It does have a mod. Suiciding yourself isn't necessary. /arg/ keeps getting deleted because they can't make a not tranny OP to get things going yet, so it keeps getting nuked lmao. I'll make a normal thread for them later, but this suggests we do have a mod

are the nafoniggers and glowniggers gone? can we talk about guns again?

never liked all the generals tbqh they inevitably start developing cults of personalities and in-jokes looks like that's starting up again here

>>12312 I agree. I think that there are people on both sides who are genuinely passionate. I don't think the insanity was organic though. Interest in the Ukraine war was organic, flying into a frothing rage at anything perceived as not being pro-Ukraine enough was not. We can talk about any other third world slapfight without turning into /pol/, why the hell should Ukraine be any different? >>12324 The number of jannies assigned to a board seems to have directly correlated with how cancerous it was. /gif/ /v/ /vg/ and /pol/ and /tg/ all had shitloads of jannies, and all of them were awful. /tg/ used to be the best board, but it had an assload of jannies and got so bad it was unusable. >>12332 >armatard I seriously wonder if Armatard was responsible for even a tenth of the posts attributed to him, if he ever really existed at all. >who legit get offended when you posit the idea that you don't care about the conflict. The whole thing where they made up a "noootraler" caricature of how they imagined everyone who just didn't care was actually a secret Russian spy was completely unhinged. >>12341 oh good. I was worried we'd have to find out like how penguins check for orcas.

>>12307 >you're here because you like guns. Thats why im here...i really liked the /hg/ generals on 4chan If i wanted to see threads on that stupid fake and extremely gay war id go to /pol/

>>12349 >>12349 >The number of jannies assigned to a board seems to have directly correlated with how cancerous it was So /cm/ was megabased? I always knew it!

>>12314 >because some of my most fun imageboard times happened on /k/ Anyone remember the thread where some anon was digging a trench on his property and found a snake and named him niggersnake? Shit was great

>>12348 I'm sorry to say but in old/k/, while I agree they were antithetical to general board culture, they also persisted past the general board culture and helped keep it fun, assuming you were apart of them. As long as you didn't aggressively piss everyone off inside them the only barrier to entry for them was your own mind. I think them starting up here is a symptom of nobody really being able to appreciate general board culture anymore, also sometimes I only want to talk about ARs or pistols or whatever

>>12350 /hg/ had some of the best pictures of any general I think. Nice Beretta. Maybe I'll start a Beretta thread later, recently picked myself up an M9 and have some questions about them >>12352 I vaguely remember the trench threads, didn't know he found a snake though, that's awesome

>>12350 >i really liked the /hg/ generals on 4chan Personally I find gun culture threads depressing. I think they're a sign of how complacent we've become with the violations of our right to bear arms. I want to own an attack helicopter, and I want attack helicopter ownership to be so widespread and it's not that much more expensive than a nice car. >>12351 I never went to /cm/ but I bet it was more focused on cute males than it was on some jannies pet obsession. I saw someone on kiwifarms say it was usually filled with shota porn even though it was a blue board, but fuck the rules! Row row fight the power! >>12353 When people retreat into generals we all lose out. It's not as bad as retreating into a discord, but it's just more fun it's out in the open. I should check the rules and find out if it's okay to organize raids. If it is we should totally raid the generals. We could be on topic and just turn every general into a thread about historical raiding, be they Mongol raids or WW1 trench raiders or marine raiders or whatever. It could be fun.

>>12355 Let's not start shitting things up just yet. Not until this board gets a bit faster

>>12357 On the contrary I think this is the best time to do it. If people get settled into their generals it'll be harder to root them out than if we get them back to engaging with the rest of the board now. Maybe we can wait a few days to see how things turn out, but I doubt it'd do any harm.

>he's a fucking retard that doesn't understand personal space of course.

>>12355 Not porn but worksafe shota was allowed and had a regular thread, I imagine kiwi doesn't see a difference tho.

>>12362 They probably don't. For all their posturing they're still a bunch of pearl clutching moralfags.

>>12363 It's a shame they're so gay. Because the cause of fucking with trannies is a good one.

>>12170 newfag

>>12364 Part of the problem is that they *just* fuck with trannies and other low hanging fruit. I remember that back in the day people considered Oprah a lolcow.

>>12364 >>12366 internet got lazy thats why nothing fun ever happens anymore and its all just the same 10-15 year old memes over and over again

>>12367 >internet got lazy I don't think that's the case. I think there have been a lot of things disincentivizing quality, and the problems stem more from structural issues than from malaise in the users. After we saw that /b/ could go right back to the way it was in the late 2000s in a single day on April 1st, the idea that it's the users who have changed was proven completely wrong. Killing 4chan might actually have been all we needed to bring back the good old days, we'll see. If not, then it was clearly a step in the right direction.

>>12317 >>12318 They deserve the dox. Still upset that I got a warning for "racism" fucking losers

I'm curious as to how the wider internet is going to handle all of our old tourists. They didn't know about places like this so I think it'll be fun to watch them invade other places.

>>12369 >the idea that it's the users who have changed was proven completely wrong Completely and utterly true. It wasn't down in quality because the users were making it that way, it was down in quality because it was flooded by an overwhelming wave of AI, paid actors and generally speaking, manipulators. One's that tried to make a reddit level manufactured consensus, and lacking something to make a consensus about, would at least flood boards with spam to stop anything from being talked about in any real way. This is a schizo level idea that's incomplete, but. I'm starting to think that this type of fairly slow, visually bland, early web designed forum is the best forum type. It's not distracting enough or addicting enough to become a hyper mainstream social media apparatus. There's no real money in a chan type sight and nearly no money at all outside of ads which are continually being beaten down by adblockers. Right on the tip of my tongue, I feel like 4chan as a whole was so co-opted federally for these reasons. I don't have a goal in mind for why they do that though. Any idea I do have is half baked at best and doesn't really belong on /k/.

>>12370 I remember getting banned several times by /ck/ for racism just for saying chink in conversation, not even going on some kind of bugman genocide screed. Never copped one on /k/ somehow though despite using all the words of power. Either way the global no wacism rule was megagay. Speak of /ck/, I wonder where those tards are now

>>12375 >Speak of /ck/, I wonder where those tards are now i ended up on this site i am somewhat happy to see the nigers that were always banning me from /ck/ for racism got doxxed fuck those niggers wasnt like i was going full /pol/ pic related, pic very related

>>12372 They pretty much took over the sharty. I think that might have been why the hacker pretended to be from the sharty. It's the same reason we used to attribute all our shit to Ebaumsworld. He didn't use their lingo and all his imagery was oldfag shit like Miku and trollface, while some actual soyjack teen would have used a soyjack face or something. >>12373 >I'm starting to think that this type of fairly slow, visually bland, early web designed forum is the best forum type. Being easy to use and accessible just invites people who shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. >>12373 > it was down in quality because it was flooded by an overwhelming wave of AI, paid actors and generally speaking, manipulators. We'll probably see them try it here. It'll take a few days for them to have meetings and decide on a game plan, but I don't think they'll give up. The moderation here probably isn't as bad though, so we will have a while before things really go to hell. The first few days after that CEO got wasted showed that the people running the shills don't react that quickly to unexpected situations. >I don't have a goal in mind for why they do that though. It was just to prevent anything disruptive from taking off. Whether or not /pol/ actually helped Trump get elected, it clearly made important people scared.

>>12377 Tentatively speaking the mods here seem pretty good. I don't want to create political discourse again in here but it is relevant, the pro-ukraine push on /k/ began properly like a week-week and a half or so after the initial invasion. At first every /k/ommando was just happy to see some war /k/ino so we get some more pics and vids of weapons inna action, nobody really cared about either side though and just assumed Russia was probably gonna auto win. The snake island thing happened and the ghost of kiev thing happened(or I should say neither thing happened in reality) and people thought it was just funny, then the propaganda began. People forget but it didn't only happen on /k/, /pol/ and a bunch of other boards got hit with it as well. It eventually became unsustainable to do consistently on a bunch of boards and settled in /k/ for whatever reason. This was a coordinated operation done to emulate what happened in 2016 with perceived reality that 4chan made trump win the election. The propaganda was designed to look and sound similar, but the subject matter was just different. Everyone forgets but it was very obviously artificial. Due to bot and shill spam, lots of quality anons left, and some of the dumber ones thought it was real and became true believers. Eventually the yuros and NAFOfags(another development from the operation) moved in and over time the cancer organically formed to the way it was before 4chan got nuked. I don't think such an obvious push will be done here, but the results of that will probably come to haunt us here as well. Please not I am not posting for or against any side, just discussing the meta of what happened

>>12380 they're getting "culturally enriched"

>>12379 >Tentatively speaking the mods here seem pretty good. yeah, but as traffic picks up they might bring in more, and paid shills will try to apply. It will be hard to keep them out. >I don't want to create political discourse again in here but it is relevant The meta thread indicates talking about psyops and the policies that relate to war, just not blatant /pol/ shit. We're talking about what was clearly an actual operation that probably involved military personnel, we should be fine. >People forget but it didn't only happen on /k/, /pol/ and a bunch of other boards got hit with it as well. It eventually became unsustainable to do consistently on a bunch of boards and settled in /k/ for whatever reason. The effort to shill /pol/ wasn't gaining any traction, and /k/ was small enough that they were able to drown out any dissent and generate a false consensus. After /pol/ had that schism in the Ukraine generals they really only kept the shilling there at the levels needed to keep their shill general alive and maintain appearances. >Due to bot and shill spam, lots of quality anons left, and some of the dumber ones thought it was real and became true believers. Seeing that Norktard tripfag fall for it broke my heart. He had so much potential. I think we can fix some of the ones who became true believers though. They just need to get pushback and be shown that the shit they've been fed is false. It's easier to admit you were wrong to yourself when you're anonymous and don't have anything riding on it. I went full NAFO myself for a few months, so I know what it's like for them. We might even see a few oldfags filter back in once they feel like the coast is clear. >>12380 Whoever did the hack was smart to pin it on the Sharty. The cancer all flooded over there as a result. It was like blaming Ebaumsworld, but it actually worked this time.

>>12276 part of the reason i stopped going to /k/ it was just pol shit flinging from both sides to the point i was rooting for nukes so that everyone died and they could shut up and go away again.

>>12384 Welcome back, I almost got chased off too. We'll try to get the shit flinging under control. It's not going to happen immediately because a few newfags thought it was organic and keep trying to bring it over here, so we've gotta push back a bit so they assimilate properly. It shouldn't take long. Maybe we should get some drawfags to make art of their mascots making out.

don't get how people (outside of people actually living in Russia) can genuinely believe Russia winning, must take extreme retardation

>>12389 Fuck off nigger. We don't care

>>12390 And yet you're here instead of posting on arg (0 posts right now.)

>>12390 >we don't care >posts directly above are talking about it

Chirst you fags realise we can discuss current events, without turning the board in /pol/ shitspam?!

>>12386 yeah sadly a good chunk of this very thread is the same shit flinging but whatever it will get better or worse I have no power in any way shape or form. nukes or big tiddy anime waifus making out sounds good to me. it doesn't matter. none of this matters.

>>12391 Thanks for reminding me lol. I am John /arg/

>>12389 There is a thread about the Russo-Ukraine war >>1473. If you want to actually seriously engage with this topic, I'm willing to have a civil discussion about it in the relevant thread. >>12395 Actually we were talking about the topic of this thread, refugees from /k/. We weren't talking about Ukraine at all. Nobody has even talked about the Russo-Ukraine war except to say that it was frustrating how the moderation on 4/k/ handled discussion of it. >>12400 >a good chunk of this very thread is the same shit flinging sort of. We're clarifying what the actual feeling on the board was about the Russo-Ukraine war after having been unable to for a long time. Then we have to begin the process of integrating newfags into board culture, since we haven't been able to do for a few years, so it'll be a little bumpy. I hope you hang in here, because having more oldfags around will help. >I have no power in any way shape or form Making interesting /k/ related posts would help the cause of helping the newfags integrate. Don't be so demoralized, you are already helping. >nukes or big tiddy anime waifus making out sounds good to me. That's the old /k/ spirit! >>12399 We have to teach them. They'll learn.

>>12401 nuh uh

I still don't know who shart is. Also, how secure is this site? Any chances of the people running it all are completely retarded like 4chan using outdated shit?

I wonder if we can summon Reeves here. I really doubt hiroshimoot and his merry band of retards are gonna unfuck the current situation in time for ShitShow ‘26 and I wanna have a man on the inside. Those threads were kino.

>>12413 Shart is just /qa/ that moved to another website. Remember all the soyjack spam? That was them. Don't know about security here, but I doubt anybody cares enough to try it here.

>>12413 from what i've gathered shart was very sad buttcheeks over qa getting deleted over soyjack posting. he used an exploit regarding layers of code in pdfs that were uploadable into 4chan. why you could upload pdfs on 4chan idk. he then spent the last few years (holy shit) back tracing behind seven proxies to destroy 4chan. you are here now. who knows about security, i always assume there is no such thing. the only solace i've seen is the soyjack site is pretty much unusable right now with all the crying, shitposting, shidding and farding. i'm an unrelenting unabashed coomer and I was looking for a gif, h, and s equivalent and over there it was just filled with shitposts destroying their board. so, teehee hawhaw. still i should have saved that dump of norafawn's stuff because yowza. personally, i didn't really care or pay attention to any of the frog or soyjack posting drama. I actually was entertained by any sort of posting and didn't really think too hard about it when qa got shut down let alone think it would mean anything. I just like the funny frogs and soyjacks, they made me laugh. but now i'm here with you waiting two weeks for things to go back to normal or not so who cares it doesn't matter. still, decently comfy here even with the war tourists.

>>12413 >how secure is this site? Not at all all things considered. But according to the guy who did the deed on 4ch he was after the mods/admins/jannies for 4ch, not the website or its userbase, so he'd have little reason to do it again to this site. Assuming of course that he isn't lying about that but he hasn't leaked pass/captcha email verifications (that he definitely has) so for now I'd take his word on it being an autistic shit-flinging competition with the jannies and mods.

>>12407 Drug addict

>>12413 >>12415 Just check the bottom of the page, there are literally links to the git repos for the software the site runs. It seems fairly up to date to me. No website is actually all that secure, but 4chan was really bad. If 8chan goes down we can just relocate to zzzchan, they are even more up to date and have adequate infrastructure to handle the refugees. >>12418 > shart was very sad buttcheeks over qa getting deleted over soyjack posting. he used an exploit regarding layers of code in pdfs that were uploadable into 4chan. why you could upload pdfs on 4chan idk. >he then spent the last few years (holy shit) back tracing behind seven proxies to destroy 4chan. I still think it was actually an oldfag who just pinned the blame on the Soyjack chan. He never used any soyjack imagery or anything, he used trollface and Miku, which in the vocabulary of soyjack spammers already have their own equivalents. The attack only exploited published vulnerabilities in outdated software, it wasn't something that actually required much more than skiddy skills. > the soyjack site is pretty much unusable right now That's why anonymous always used to attribute shit to Ebaumsworld. I think that is what actually happened here too. >waiting two weeks for things to go back to normal It's going to be more than two weeks. The current crop of mods and admins might not even be able to pull it off, and who knows if Hiroshimoot will shell out to pay some pajeets to do it. >>12420 >the guy who did the deed my schizo conspiracy theory is it was some mod or admin from the old days, maybe even Moot or Snacks. The attack wasn't super sophisticated, and they'd all know what versions of FreeBSD and whatever were in use when they left. It's been glaringly obvious for years that Hiro has been completely uninvolved with the site, so they could pretty confidently assume nothing had been updated in their absence.

>>12152 Stop getting mad over meme videos, it isn't healthy.

>>12423 >and Miku i also thought it was just a general 4chan prank with Miku. I love Miku. I might find a way to watch her new movie coming out. >jeets to fix it that's a guarantee. They'll lose saaar posting most likely if that's the case but I can't see anyone in the east or west that would stoop low enough and for pay low enough to code monkey around fixing the site. Who knows, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>12280 lmao stfu retard, you don't get to rewrite the whole history of the war now just because the board you got laughed off of is currently inactive 4/k/ turned against russia hard and fast when it turned out that their promised high speed low drag 3 days to kiev operation turned into a humiliating shitshow. you don't have to like the hohols to laugh at and despite russia.

>>12420 so much for the guy's thing about not posting the code for the captcha, lmao https://limewire.com/d/y1VG3#odwBrwXaK7

>>12427 who cares you annoying shitcunts go post in the relevant thread i hope both you retards get nuked with cobalt

>>12431 Oh Well, in that case, if he's leaking other shit there's a non-zero chance of your email getting leaked if you ever bought a pass or used email to verify to avoid the 15-minute captcha if he decides to keep releasing shit. This should be a lesson to all /k/ommandos to practice better opsec to avoid this potential consequence (because it's extremely applicable to modern asymmetric war).

>>12451 only an issue if you used an email connected to other things that can identify you

>>12452 True, but most people are lazy and have maybe 2 emails (1 personal, 1 for school) so they'd use those, which is evidenced by the .edu emails for jannies.

>>12427 >you don't get to rewrite the whole history of the war You have an inaccurate impression of the history of this war due to nearly exclusively seeing propaganda, and confirmation bias allowed you to ignore the rest. It's important to revise history with better information. >the board you got laughed off We didn't get laughed off, we just stopped talking about the war in Ukraine and tried to avoid paying attention to it. It was a defense mechanism to avoid being banned for disagreeing with a Ukraine shill. >4/k/ turned against russia No, a bunch of people who obviously weren't previously /k/ users showed up. That's why the discourse changed rapidly from "Russia isn't doing as well as expected" to "Russians are racially inferior and non-white, and they should be exterminated." >their promised high speed low drag 3 days to kiev operation turned into a humiliating shitshow. If you want to go to the thread about the war in Ukraine, I'd be happy to talk about how that isn't a very accurate description of what happened. >you don't have to like the hohols to laugh at and despite russia. I mostly don't care about Ukrainians, but I kind of hope their government gets destroyed and their country annexed by Russia just because I find the people who support them annoying and it'd be funny to watch them cope (and to finally end this Kiev/Kyiv nonsense once and for all). I don't see why you think I should despise Russia though, they've done nothing to harm me, and they probably haven't done shit to harm you either.

>>12457 good luck with how hilariously incopetent the Russian army is

>>12449 I'm only engaging with them because they aren't going to stop without pushback. I keep inviting them to actually discuss the war in Ukraine, but only in the proper thread, but none of them have taken me up on the offer, probably because on some level they know that what they are saying is false and they want to avoid being confronted with that. >>12459 So are you going to take this to the appropriate thread? Because I'm not going to derail this thread further than it already has been.

>>12355 I also want to own a personal SuperHind.

i thought all the previous tripfags and such would finally go away but they keep popping up

>>12464 Yeah, but there are no tripcodes here, so we can just impersonate them for the lulz to bully them.

>>12353 General threads were shit and always devolved into basically glorified discord servers filled with mentally ill, retarded, tripfaggots who basically never talked about the subject at hand. Maybe some of them had utility like /prg/, /pfg/, /nvg/ etc. but those at least had the decency to die when there was nothing to talk about currently instead of turning into a chatroom with tripcodes used as usernames so can people can blogpost and suck eachother off in said threads.

>>12460 >but only in the proper thread it's all i ever wanted honestly.

>>12469 I wanted that + not getting banned and my posts deleted for being insufficiently pro-Ukraine. I'm interested in talking about the war from a purely military perspective, but I understand that it's not everyone's topic of interest. It's honestly not even the Ukraine weirdos topic of interest. They really only talk about how much they hate Russians and they throw a tantrum if you want to talk about the actual military operations, because some part of reality will conflict with their /pol/ schizo fantasies.

>>12476 Mods were niggers for not letting a general war thread stay up. Especially when Kursk was invaded.

>>12479 >mods were niggers yeah

>>12479 I think a containment general would have made it harder to shill, and the mods didn't want that.

>>12479 Mods were in on it. Not making a general was part of the plan. They wanted a whole board for it, where they pushed all the actual /k/ discussion into generals

JANNIES AND MODS WERE FAGGOTS Oh yeah, I said it! Also I like how we can post .webms with sound here

>>12502 >Oh yeah, I said it! Goddamn it's cathartic to finally get this shit out in the open. >I like how we can post .webms with sound here yeah, it do be good stuff. I hope 4chan stays down forever. We should really participate more outside of this thread though, so the board feels less dead.

>>12510 i was thinking about gravedigging some older ones but wasnt sure how well it would be received

>>12511 I feel weird about it too, but we need to do it since nobody is going to post if it feels like the place is a graveyard. If we're going to bring this place back to life, we'll need to engage in some necroing. I think a lot of people are coming here, assuming it's dead, and then leaving.

New /k/ mod dox just dropped on kiwifarms karambit - peteralexbowers@gmail.com - janitor - /vm/ /x/ /xs/ /k/ DOB 7-22-1994 Other names: Tara Moo, Amphetamemes, Marquidias From Boston Nigger has a chin like Robert Z'dar

>>12535 where is he...

>>12530 Holy shit. How did someone like that end up being a /k/ janny? I bet he only became a janny on /k/ after 2022. >Peter Bowers said, “I’m supporting Bernie Sanders because of how the system is rigged currently with Wall Street and how the rich get richer and how we have a disappearing middle class, and how we have rising health care costs, stagnating wages. >“I think we do need to reallocate wealth to really take care of everyone in this country and not just people that have succeeded in the system we have set up.” >He said Sanders would do this by raising capital gains taxes. “You raise taxes on stock portfolios, because right now it’s really easy to hide your money and make money off of it without paying a lot of taxes on it, or with speculation. That money can be reallocated into a college fund, into a nationalized health care system so that people can actually get a leg up and survive.” >I asked him how he thought the wealthy and big business would respond to such proposals. “They’re going to fight back hard,” Peter said. “But they’ve seen the handwriting on the wall, for a while, so they’ve had a chance. They’re going to fight. They’re going to kick. But Bernie’s a bit more magnanimous in how he talks to people, so I feel that things are going to work out a lot smoother.” >Despite the pro-war policies of both Sanders and Hillary Clinton, Peter was of the opinion that the Democrats were less pro-war than the Republicans. “I think the Democrats across the board are a lot on board about having conversations with other nations and trying to come to more peaceful arrangements,” he said. >Asked about socialism, Peter said: “Socialism is not full communism. You still have the capitalist system, but you have a situation where people really do help each other out, and you are considered to be at least partially responsible for the well-being of your fellow man.” >He considered my argument that socialism required a new independent revolutionary movement of the working class and that Sanders’ “political revolution” had nothing in common with this. He was convinced, however, that Sanders’ campaign was a step in the right direction. >“You know, I think it can happen,” he said. “We saw it with the labor movement 150 years ago. Hopefully, it’s not as violent as the labor movement. But it is going to take a lot of work. It’s going to take a lot of time. There are a lot of companies that have a stranglehold on how things run in this country. I don’t think it can happen overnight, but it’s a start and we need to see where we go from there.” https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/02/13/univ-f13.html

>>12546 these niggas are going to need witness protection after this

>>12546 Because these are the only losers who would actually fucking become a janitor

>>12548 Oh goodness I hope not. That would just be terrible! >>12563 Given that he was a socialist Berniebro about 10 years ago, do you think he's the one who got people banned for not sucking off Ukraine hard enough? That seems like a pretty plausible trajectory.

>>12565 i concur with your assessment. i think that's what always irked me with the nafo brigade, way too many people with way too much time and stupid on their hands, of course they would be the ones to janny. i forget the phrase but something about controlling something they hate just to tamper it down. I guess after all the arrests from years prior it was stamp down with anyone they could get and then the war started and they outed themselves. oh well

>>12511 >>12513 how far back is too far back to become a necromancer? i'm about to get into reloading 44mag for my new revolver and would love to get that thread going but the last post is from almost 2 years ago

>>12596 weapons free, what are they gonna do? delete the thread?

>>12597 good point. I'll get my questions together and revive it sometime this weekend. bonus fun i made a deathray with the fresnel lens off an old tv that instantly melts lead so i don't think i need a furnace to cast the bullets. My laser thermometer reads at 850f at the focal point.

>>12599 thats fucking sick. you should stick a rock under there and see if it melts

>>12599 > i made a deathray with the fresnel lens off an old tv that instantly melts lead post a video of that shit

>>12596 If you feel weird about it maybe make a new thread about reloading? /k/ommandoswho open a thread near the top of the catalog and see the OP was from 2 years ago might assume the board is dead and move on in their search for where the rest of the refugees went. This thread with nearly 200 posts should clue them in that it's not dead, but /k/ hasn't always attracted the brightest eggs. Then again resurrecting an old thread is easier and more heterosexual, and I don't think it'd actually hurt. We just need to get things moving so people realize the board is alive. Activity will attract activity. >>12600 I second this motion. >>12601 Also this one, hell he should make a whole thread about it.

>>12106 we need our fellow furniggers so that we can laugh at them and feel at home.

>>12600 melts something in bricks and turns it into glass. fun project i did with my kids. >>12601 i melted a hole through a lacroix can i'll post a pic in a second

Reposting this from /arg/ because lmao

>>12600 >>12601 >>12605

>>12607 real?

>>12613 holy shit

>>12613 now THIS is quality

>>12613 >>12613 so right now i've got my pool pump and filter rigged so that it pumps a small amount of water through a brass pipe under the death ray itself. about 1gph flow rate and the water coming out of the pipe is about 98f. it REALLY isn't changing the temp of the whole pool but like I said really fun project that me and my son did. i made him pick out the lumber, pretty sweet job for a 12 year old imo. also i'm high up latitude wise so it's going to get way way way more powerful as summer comes. i'm excited to see how hot it gets and what other materials I can melt. I put a penny under it yesterday and it boiled the zinc out of it. holding a lead 454 slug with some long needle nose melted the whole slug in less than a second. pretty rad, if you know anyone with a dead projection tv from the early 90s it has one of these screens in them. 10/10 mad scientist vibes

>>12607 Kiwifarms and the sharty wiki say this is a picture of Rapeape and that he's half Indian, half black, and either Canadian or Californian. >We are coming and we will find you Did he seriously not even go with "we do not forgive we do not forget, we are legion, expect us"? I guess that wouldn't have applied though, since they aren't anonymous anymore. >>12613 That's fucking cool. You really could make a thread for that.

>>12620 > You really could make a thread for that. when i get more pics and it gets hotter I will for sure. death rays are weapons, human bones vaporize around 1100f iirc. just good general knowledge to have and share with friends.

>>12615 From the Sharty, but people are saying it's real >>12613 HOLY FUARK

>>12619 you should upgrade it with some more 2x4s on the sides so you can adjust the height for larger items/tables. if you like this, you should check out the solar furnace at white sands missile range

>>12623 right now it's on a swivel and wheels so i can positiuon the left and right at the sun and then the angle of the sun in the sky. if that makes sense. It works really well, and I know where the focal point is so it's a matter of stacking bricks and getting whatever I want into position to burn. about 28" from the screen. i'll check out the solar furnace too, sounds fun. of note for anyone that wants to do this, get some welding goggles that are really strong and keep your dominate eyes closed otherwise you'll blind yourself kid.

>>12613 so this is what the sun under a magnifying glass looks like to ants

Real OGs remember the Redguard filter and the janny who banned all suppressor threads because he thought they were illegal

>>12607 prolly fake but retarded enough to be real i dunno

>>12607 giving real reddit vibes with this response lmao. I increasingly hope it stays dead tbh

>>12643 >>12644 I don't know if the other email is real either, but the corpospeak fake trying to be cute shit on the official twitter makes me think that Rapeape just talks like that in public facing communications.

idk why but the name field seems to randomly get autofilled now that I made a joke shitpost as Hunter 3-1 Actual. This is gay as shit.

>>12646 i hear all the mods and jannies talk like fruitcakes

>>12106 i found this place searching on X. maybe post 4chan /k/ on X with the link to regroup /k/ommandos

>>12215 >Burt i wonder where hes at. guess ill search allchans.org for every /k/

>>12656 One of the few I miss

>>12132 The CSX is still my favorite gun and you should get one or two of them

>this website's /his/ is frozen rock solid Well fuck, now where am I going to debate the legitimacy of Constantinople being the true Roman state?

>>12607 Has it been back traced? And what of the consequences? Will they ever be the same? As a follow up question, there is currently a lot of speculation that they have in fact dun goofed, can you in fact confirm this? Inquiring anons wish to know more.

>>12178 I'm sure it'll be back. The soonest I'm thinking is some time next week. The latest maybe the end of April/beginning of May.

Maybe it will return on 4/20 for the lulz

>>12607 RapeApe, I hope you see this. You idiot. You absolute cretin. This is all your fault. (Forgive me if I post this elsewhere other than 8/k/, or if it gets reposted in some off-topic discussion. He needs to see this.) The problems with /qa/ and sharty might be the main reason why this attack happened, but it is not the only one. In my mind there are three main contributing reasons as to why this attack played out the way it did, and why our response to you is cool rather than sympathetic: 1. You allowed the website to become a poorly maintained, unsecured mess of old code. 2. You neglected the userbase for almost a decade. 3. Your own policies, beliefs and "vision" contributed to the user experience getting worse. I'm going to be breif with the software vulnerabilities. We don't need to list them; we know how they happened, and we know what the exploits were. Did you have NOBODY on the team capable of updating the website to prevent this? Do ANY of you have any webdev skills?And if none of you do, is there even a BUDGET for such a thing? Sure, one of your emails says you were in the process of "upgrading" things, but were you really? And even if you were, would it have made a difference and prevented this attack? From my understanding this type of attack could have occurred at any point between the end of life of FreeBSD and now. Did you never think this could happen to 4chan? Let's talk about how you neglected 4chan's userbase. Do you have any idea how many THOUSANDS of users left because of your negligence prior to this attack? Off the top of my head, let me list all the problems that I witnessed personally under your administration in the last two years. >two (or more) schizos playing Whac-A-mole with each other on /m/'s catalog for over a year. It was impossible to discuss multiple franchises without these freaks showing up and shitting up threads on what was already a slow board. >/o/'s catalog going from genuine automotive enthusiasts to the same five people making the same exact bait threads every week. Some of these post reports show up in the sharty leaks, it was happening until the very end. >/k/ getting turned into ground zero for shitflinging regarding the war in ukraine. To this day both sides of the conflict still go to bat despite probably all living on the other side of the ocean away from the conflict. >Every meta thread complaining about the issues on /k/ was deleted without second thought and all pleas on the IRC were promptly ignored. Hiro, your boss in absentia, actually permitted one meta thread per board! remember that? Other boards also had their meta threads thrown away without a peep from the staff. >/pol/ and /int/ seemingly having free reign to instigate and start political shit on many boards for any reason. >the incredible number of Israeli posts on /pol/. Never did it occur to you to reveal these botted posts for what they were? How many other boards were filled with bots? We may never know. >a mod doing a "fucky-wucky" resulting in entire board catalogs being wiped from existence. Namely, /3/. They never recovered. I can list more but they go back almost a decade, and the people most effected be those decisions left for greener pastures a long, long time ago. And now let's talk about the things you did INTENTIONALLY to damage the website. Namely, the /pol/ification of 4chan. Christopher saw the writing on the wall with /pol/ and knew he wanted nothing to do with it. And yet, here you come, all to eager to push your own agenda and make /pol/ the destination for all political wingnuts with a keyboard and an internet connection. All these new users spilled over into every board that could keep their attention, and contributed to said boards declining in quality. You brought these people in. You also removed the counter for unique IPs per thread. Was that to make the website look better to advertisers, or an effort to hide shitposters from genuine users? I still don't know, this was the most boneheaded decision your administration has made. by far. What justification could you possibly have for removing the IP counter in threads? Oh, you're going to "come for and find" the people who did this? No you idiot, you're the ones who got hacked and doxxed. They're coming to find YOU. And if they ever found you, I wouldn't raise a finger to stop them. I don't have sympathy for you and some of the jannies because your administration ran 4chan poorly. I can forgive some of the janitors, and maybe some of the paid mods. Each individual can only be responsible for so much of the website. But you were the acting captain of this vessel, and with the the way you talk in these recent emails, you still fancy yourself the captain of the ship. You even neglected to prevent jannies from using their REAL NAMES IN THE EMAILS THEY USED TO SIGN UP. WHY DID YOU EVEN CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF ANYONE WHO WOULD USE THEIR REAL NAME? WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE THEM USE A THROWAWAY? YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED SO MANY OF THEM FROM BEING DOXXED. DO YOU EVEN CARE ABOUT THEM? If 4chan ever reopens, take some goddamn responsibility and fix your website. I'd tell you to resign, but it looks like you're running into staffing issues. I wonder why. Regardless of whether 4chan repoens or not, you owe the entire userbase of 4chan an apology for driving it into the ground. Handwritten and Timestamped, maybe even an apology video. You, solely, are responsible for this.

>>12657 I hope the RTW guy comes back but we probably don't have enough of the anons who followed his threads to really keep it going. It's weird it's so difficult for people to find this place. It really doesn't take a master sleuth.

>>12607 I would unironically become a janny in order to permaban /pol/fags and ukie/russian shills

>>12672 >>12672 >this is the Rapeape speaking >you post is too long I didn't read >I'm not nerd, so I'm not coding >Israel come in and flash BBC >as BBC I am grinding in >russian should win and I vote for ukraine >come and find me so I can make you came >we do not forget because we are legion >stop coping, just obey me

>>12675 i think the almost connection to the older non associated 8chan and their infamous members isn't helping. That being said this is much nicer than the other chans i've been poking around in and at least moves. my only complaint is there isn't an index of all available boards so i've been guessing at board names to see if something is there or not, found /ck/ which is nice i hope that picks up i miss it.

>>12700 wym there is a board index?

>>12703 please spoon feed me a link i've only seen the front page with top boards listed

>>12704 nvm found it next to the home button apologizes ive been huffing too many lead fumes maybe

>>12700 I think that's good. Part of what used to keep cancer at bay was having a reputation that made retards and kids scared to even check it out. I remember back when I was in middle school and I first checked out 4chan I was terrified, and I had actually already been using ED for months at that point, which in hindsight was arguably worse. I thought I'd get a virus and the partyvan would get me for joining the cyber terrorist group anonymous. >>12695 I'll admit I was toying with the idea of putting my hat in next time they advertised for new jannies. I'm glad this happened though so I didn't have to. >>12696 Just a warning this site likes to autofill the name field.

In case anyone who is going through the old posts on this board is confused by some of the stuff they see, a lot of threads from anon.cafe's /k/ got merged into this one when that chan shut down. I sometimes try to track down this lost tribe of /k/ommandos (I didn't find out about anon.cafe until after it had shut down), since they kept the old ways better than we did. I have checked every image board I could find though and aside from zzzchan none seem to have active /k/s.

>>12546 >the system is rigged currently with Wall Street and how the rich get richer and how we have a disappearing middle class, and how we have rising health care costs, stagnating wages. this is factually true tho, the solutions lefties give may be oftentimes retarded but the issues they point out are real. which is why its hilarious to me seeing them cry about trump tariffs and suddenly caring oh so much about wall street, the real working class barely owns stocks but what they do need are solid productive jobs instead of them being endlessly outsourced. id bet this guy was anti-gun too. its fitting that gun manufacturing is one of the industries that still makes thing fully in the US and would be even bigger without legal (unconstitutional) limitations.

>>12737 oooh thats why some of the threads look familiar. I used to browse anon.cafe for a little bit there.

>my post that I made yesterday gets baleeted despite not breaking board rules Real classy. Fuck (((Mark))) and Acidcuck

Hey fagnuts, good to see you're not all dead. It's nice seeing the catalog not be 50% Ukraine shitposts and 50% non-firearms or non-military /pol/ shit. Although, I'll freely admit I didn't start browsing /k/ again until Hot Dog Man's failed Moscow blitz. Staying up all night to keep up with that insanity was some of the most fun I've had on 4chan in years honestly. I'm just glad I was able to keep my head above the water on the war in Ukraine and not turn into one of those NAFO Redditors who spend all day looking for combat footage and gore to post. I'm not as much of an stoic based alpha male with no feelings and a lust fot violence as I thought, turns out pictures of dead kids make me feel physically ill. Who'da thunk it right? Anyways, here's a neat gun an anon posted a bit before 4chan was kill, a Benelli B80. From a better time when guns weren't just Glocks or AR15s.

>>12789 The problem with the Ukraine war tourists wasn't that they were talking about the war in Ukraine, it's that they really weren't even talking about the war in Ukraine at all, it was just an pretext to rant about how much they hated Russians and the US military and NATO were perfect and could do no wrong. I'm pretty jaded and I enjoy gore sometimes, but those fags didn't even like gore for its own sake, it was just catharsis for the intense butt pain they felt about Russians. I wish we could have had actually good threads about that war, since it actually is interesting, but any attempt to seriously discuss the war would cause them to sperg out and then you'd get banned by their pet janny (probably that karambit janny who got doxxed in this thread).

>>12796 >it was just an pretext to rant about how much they hated Russians and the US military and NATO were perfect and could do no wrong. Don't forget their thinly veiled attempts to shoehorn in US politics and how Trump bad and Russian. I still remember some of the more blatant threads that got moved to /pol/. I and other anons who were against them were all revealed to have American flags and be different posters despite all the accusations of us being samefags. Curiously, the posters who were spamming about Ukraine all had meme flags, and there weren't very many once we went to /pol/. I wonder why...

>>12800 I mean all you have to do is look at the jannies on /k/ and their big fat kike noses to know what was really going on

>>12804 Are you having trouble with your browser autofilling the name field? The only way I was able to make that go away myself was by clearing my browser's autofill history thing.

>>12796 I find it very strange because they're almost people I would agree with if they weren't all fucking lunatics that are using my values as a trojan horse for gay leftist bullshit. I'm fine with the US sending aid to Ukraine in the form of arms and materiel, not liquid cash because I don't think America should be giving liquid cash to any other country. But they'd want taxpayer money directly funneled to them with no oversight. I want Ukraine to win but if I point out that the Kursk SMO was a bad idea, albeit a very funny one, they'll jump down my neck and call me a vatnigger. For fuck's sake I called the Ukrainians hohols one time as a joke, in a post where I was complimenting them for being better at the propaganda war than Russia, and got (You) bombed like I shouted NIGGER in the middle of Harlem. And they just straight up memoryholed Azov which I find extremelt funny. I don't agree with everything Trump's doing, but in regards to Europe, I'm ecstatic that for once those lazy motherfuckers are trying to improve their military defense budgets in response to his actions. If it costs Locksneed a few contracts and if the dream of the F-35 being the Right Wing of the Free World goes with it, then so be it. Because WE'RE the ones who told the eurofags it was a good idea to wind down arms production in the first place, and WE'RE the ones who made repeated attempts to keep them from having independent arms industries. But all of a sudden it's like all these NAFOhomos are Locksneed stockholders and this is somehow a bad thing. Because to these fuckers, it's not about what you think of the war or even if you're on Ukraine's side, you aren't acting like they're little cult says you should. And their cult is a transparent attempt to subvert the West into something I'd never want to live in in a million lifetimes, which makes them have a horrendously incosistent ideology if you think about it for more than 5 seconds. They're just like the fucking tankies who support Russia because somehow Putin's Neo-Neo-Russian Empire is going to be the downfall of the West and usher in a RETVRN to gommunism. Anyways as an apology for my wall of text, have a funny Spanish Sturmgewehr.

>>12796 >The problem with the Ukraine war tourists wasn't that they were talking about the war in Ukraine, it's that they really weren't even talking about the war in Ukraine at all, it was just an pretext to rant about how much they hated Russians and the US military and NATO were perfect and could do no wrong. Yeah, I'd disagree with that a bit. One of the main reasons for the prevailing attitude of "lmao fuck Russia" becoming so entrenched was how utterly insufferable the cum/chug/gers were. Remember when Moskva got BTFO'd and they basically spent an entire day with their fingers in their ears screaming "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT'S ALL NAFO LIES RUSSIA DIDN'T JUST LOSE A FLAHSHIP TO A NATION WITHOUT A NAVY AMPHIBIOUS LANDING SOON"? Or when the infamous tank webm happened and like 30 spam threads were made on /k/ over the next day to the tune of "lmao look at these dead piggers NAFOkiketroons"? Even setting aside the actual events of the war the fact that the pro-Russian side was /ptg/-tier retard screamers was enough for /k/ to take up on the side of the Ukrainians.

>>12811 There's a huge difference between the native /k/ posters who were just annoyed with /pol/tards shitting the place up and the influx of newfags who treated the place like it was the NAFO subreddit. Genuine threads about the war where people were trying to have sober conversations about the reality of the situation would regularly be infested with faggots reposting the same webm of dead ziggers that you've seen 5 times that day. Now sometimes they could be driven off but other times they ruined otherwise nice threads. Btw shoutout to the anons pretending to be Russian shills to rile up the Reddit tourists, that shit was fucking hilarious.

>>12811 Russia being fucking awful at any kind of military operation that involves water will always be funny

>>12808 >I find it very strange because they're almost people I would agree with if they weren't all fucking lunatics that are using my values as a trojan horse I don't think they actually were very close to being people you'd agree with, I think they adapted their rhetoric to fit what they thought would appeal to /k/ users, but that was a deliberately deceptive ploy. >I want Ukraine to win I used to, but at this point I want them to lose just to spite the shills. I never cared much about either side, but the Ukraine shills were so intolerable I started to hate Ukraine by proxy. >if I point out that the Kursk SMO was a bad idea, albeit a very funny one, they'll jump down my neck and call me a vatnigger. One major turning point for me was when I got called a vatnigger shill and got banned just for pointing out that thermobarics aren't very good for destroying tanks. Their persecution complex was insane. >the F-35 That thing is still dogshit and the fact that the shills would pretend it was beautiful instead of a fat ugly cow was pretty shameless of them. >to these fuckers, it's not about what you think of the war or even if you're on Ukraine's side, you aren't acting like they're little cult says you should. I called them a cult a few times myself, they really were cult like. The tactic of having obviously crazy beliefs that you have to buy into or get ostracized is an actual cult thing. >>12811 >the prevailing attitude of "lmao fuck Russia" becoming so entrenched It was never the prevailing attitude at all, it's just that anyone who didn't say shit like that got banned. >how utterly insufferable the cum/chug/gers were. They weren't on /k/, you just mistook anyone who disagreed with you for being one of them. /chug/ was a /pol/ thing. I checked it out once a bit before 4chan died, just to see what had all your panties in a knot, it was actually a pretty cosy place and they seemed to have a more realistic understanding of what was going on than the cult that took over /k/. >Remember when Moskva got BTFO'd and they basically spent an entire day with their fingers in their ears screaming "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT'S ALL NAFO LIES RUSSIA DIDN'T JUST LOSE A FLAHSHIP TO A NATION WITHOUT A NAVY AMPHIBIOUS LANDING SOON"? Nope, I don't remember that. I remember seeing a lot of threads from Ukrainian simps gloating about it though. >when the infamous tank webm happened Yeah that shit was kinda funny. >like 30 spam threads That was a drop in the bucket compared to the number of spam threads you assholes made. I don't even know how many you assholes made about that stupid clip where that one Russian tagged another because he was trying to shoot a drone that flew past. >Even setting aside the actual events of the war You already set those aside years ago, just be honest about it. >>12814 They are making a new helicopter carrier/amphibious operations support thing. It could herald a new era in Russian naval hilarity.

>>12813 >There's a huge difference between the native /k/ posters who were just annoyed with /pol/tards shitting the place up and the influx of newfags who treated the place like it was the NAFO subreddit. Yeah, and I think that there were fewer of the latter than you seem to think there were. We had plenty for sure but the average /k/ veteran was more than willing to post a suicide montage as bugspray by about a month into the conflict just because of how incredibly obnoxious the /pol/ tourists were in turn. In a more metaphysical sense, it was the complete lack of willingness towards taking their licks that the /pol/ crowd had that caused the reaction that it did. Nobody expected them to be HAPPY about the Moskva sinking but when their reaction was to scream that it wasn't happening until it could no longer be denied instead of something more along the lines of "goddamn it, seriously?" then that was basically case in point. Fucking /ptg/-tier retards who were as unwelcome for their manners and demeanor as for anything else. >Genuine threads about the war where people were trying to have sober conversations about the reality of the situation would regularly be infested with faggots reposting the same webm of dead ziggers that you've seen 5 times that day. Now sometimes they could be driven off but other times they ruined otherwise nice threads. Unfortunate, sure, but the quality of the discussions was still good compared to anywhere else on the internet.

Why do you fags even care about Russia or Ukraine? I hope they all kill each other so Japan can retake our islands, but I really don't care about the conflict. Especially not enough to bring it to a whole new fucking website and fill threads with it

>>12276 >basically banned you if your weren't a democrat aligned /k/ mids were gun grabbers? Seems unlikely.

>>12822 they were. I remember getting banned for mentioning the "trump slump" completely detached from politics and entirely referring the the price history. 3 day ban for politics. Some hired about two years ago really fucked over people

Fuck Ukraine and Fuck Russia, /K/ is a board for weapons not to discuss a war, if you engaged in either side of the off topic cancer you are what ruined the board and you should have your hands chopped off.

I'll never forgive the jannies for what they did to the last good general

>>12789 That's a sweet gun. Always loved the old Benelli pistols and it's a shame they stopped making them. How much did it run?

>>12828 I know /arg/ migrated here, but is there even interest in restarting the generals? We have a whole board again, we can talk about guns without being cordoned into generals (to make way for more CURRENT THING spam) now. Is it even worth it? I miss /akg/, sure it was 3-5 shitbags talking in circles (and Wuggy ruining everything because /k/ forgot why he was a faggot that we hated in the past 5 years apparently) but it was the best AK information source that isn't paywalled, language-gated behind Russian books or behind the (former) AKFiles login wall that keeps getting increasingly higher. >>12816 Nta but >that was a deliberately deceptive ploy It's all but confirmed to be the case when it comes to the war spamming on /k/. >It's known that discord servers existed with the sole purpose of spamming content on 4ch, see Kamala campaign or (if you can find it) a few of the meta threads about /gif/ >It's known that NGOs (and the DNC) paid people to shill their causes on 4ch (mainly /pol/), see Mike Bloomberg in 2020 or Correct the Record >It's known that governments pay people to shill propaganda on the internet at-large (including Russia, the US and Ukraine) >It's known that web centers in 3rd world shitholes offer this shilling service

>>12819 > I think that there were fewer of the latter than you seem to think there were. You're alone here arguing against pretty much the entire board that it was organic. Just accept that you fell for propaganda and try to move on. >it was the complete lack of willingness towards taking their licks I've repeatedly invited you to discuss the Russo-Ukraine war in the appropriate thread, but you keep posting here. I think you don't have any interest in what is actually going on in the war and you just felt validated when the shills would go "this" to some retarded shitpost you made that was pro-Ukraine, and then when you argued with people who didn't agree with the cult you had joined they got banned, which you just saw as the jannies cleaning up the mess. You got addicted to the positive reinforcement you got from shills and bots, and you need to accept that you're not going to get that here. > the quality of the discussions was still good compared to anywhere else on the internet. Check out the Ukraine war threads that are still up here from the merger with anon.cafe's /k/. That's what 4/k/'s discussion could have been like without you shitting all over it. >>12821 >Why do you fags even care about Russia or Ukraine? I don't care strongly about either side in the war, I just like learning about war and seeing weapons used. >>12822 dude, just look at the jannies who's dox have been posted in this thread, one was a berniebro socialist >>12827 It shouldn't be about sides, we used to have threads about conflicts without everyone picking a side, we even had threads about the Ukraine war before 2022 where there weren't strong feelings for or against either side. /k/ is about weapons, and weapons are made for killing and war, not for target shooting so seeing them in real use is very on topic, but picking a side is /pol/ shit. >>12832 >is there even interest in restarting the generals? There seems to be, but that might just be habit. I think threads about specific conflicts or current /k/ related current events should be confined to single threads on the topic. though.

>>12831 When they were new? No idea but looking at prices I'm seeing 800 at the lowest end.

>>12838 That's not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

>>12832 /arg/ has its own gay subculture that I enjoy. I think at the very minimum having one for ARs is fine since there is so much AR stuff to talk about, but the other threads maybe less so. Ive been enjoying the 1911 thread so far and its branched into talking about Beretta 92s as well. Since the board isnt 100% war tourist spam now, more generalized threads can be made with more branching conversation.

>>12807 yes its very annoying and I keep forgetting to fix it so I frequently am just accidentally John /arg/ now. They really need to fix that

>>12834 >You're alone here arguing against pretty much the entire board that it was organic. Just accept that you fell for propaganda and try to move on. Or course it wasn't completely organic and I never argued that it was; there were plenty of retarded war tourists and no doubt some actual NAFO shills. People posting cheems or le ERA on everything maymays or "slava ukraini" or other cringe garbage were obviously out of place. My point was and is that attributing /k/ moving firmly to the "fuck Russia" camp to inorganic activity is retarded when there were a number of reasons for them to have those leanings initially and the actions of the pro-Russia posters brought things to a head - in the same manner as often happens on *chan websites. Most people on /co/ didn't give a shit about ponies until they started showing up everywhere and most people on /k/ didn't really give a fuck about Russia until garbage posts in the vein of "lmao seethe more NAFOtroon" started showing up in threads. I'm certainly not accusing you of that, as you seem to be fairly level-headed, but look at the average level of discussion in /chug/ versus the average level of discussion of around the war on /k/ and there's a stark difference. And on this topic and for what it's worth, I was never pro-Russia but I also was not - and am not - "pro-Ukraine". I really don't give a shit if Ukraine wins but I would love to see Russia lose and I've felt that way ever since dealing with the retards 10+ years ago talking about how the T-14 was going to be teh best tank evar and how le Russian engineering was superior to overpriced western toys, how Russian single-handedly won WWII, how Russia is based and trad (pls ignore the institutionalized assrape) and everyone should BEGOME :DDD, etc. With no chips on the table, just the catharsis that I get from imagining the brain damage inflicted on those same retards over the course of the war is enough for me. >I've repeatedly invited you to discuss the Russo-Ukraine war in the appropriate thread, but you keep posting here. We're not talking about the events of the war in this thread, we're having a meta-discussion about the discussion of the war on /k/. I also have posted in that thread, for what it's worth. >I think you don't have any interest in what is actually going on in the war I have a great deal of interest. This is an extremely interesting conflict that will reverberate in both subtle and gross ways for decades and as a history enthusiast I'm thrilled to get all of the media that has come out of the war. However, as I am not on any form of social media and I speak neither Russian nor Ukrainian I don't have easy access to primary sources (or what passes for them) on TG/twitter/etc. so I rely on others to gather and post them. >and you just felt validated when the shills would go "this" to some retarded shitpost you made that was pro-Ukraine, I don't shitpost about the war, just as I don't shitpost in other places, and I resent the accusation. >and then when you argued with people who didn't agree with the cult you had joined they got banned, which you just saw as the jannies cleaning up the mess. You got addicted to the positive reinforcement you got from shills and bots, and you need to accept that you're not going to get that here. Setting aside the poor moderation (which I also didn't agree with, as sometimes people who seemed to be posting in good faith would get deleted while low-effort threads that were pro-Ukraine would stay up), most of what I saw them remove, personally, was garbage. Most of the "mess" was very obvious shitposting, such as pic rel. Cum-/chug/ger meme, garbage-quality post, zero good faith anywhere, just shitting up the board to shit up the board. Posts like that also contributed greatly to what I've been talking about re: the feedback loop, by the way. When shit like this is littering a board you like and there's a very obvious culprit, you tend to take a side against them even if for no other reason than you find them annoying. Again, remember the example of MLP on /co/. I am enjoying this discussion a lot, though. It's fun.

>>12106 Every shill from the Enlistment General should go suckstart a shotgun for the rest of us.

>>12828 There's now potentially hundreds of vindictive autists that know who they are. They'll get theirs

>>12259 They're only ordered to post on 4chan. Pvt. Parts from Eglin didn't get ordered to shit up this site yet and he can't just worm his way into a janny position/get given one via backdoor, as quickly.

>>12804 Oh I knew. From the first fucking day, I saw what was happening. Couldn't talk about that though. I remember once or twice, I merely suggested that the new Ukraine tourists should condense their posts into a general so that we could have other threads. Their responses varied from rationalizing their actions as "well if we don't flood the catalog with the same fucking thread over and over again, the RUSSIANS will!" (funny enough, the same thing they say the Russian foreign policy is regarding invasions) to "you are vatnik shill! Ban! BAAAAANNNN!" And of course, I was banned for suggesting that. Why wouldn't I be? They had friends in high places before it had even begun. I was also once banned for pointing out that I had never before seen the Ukrainian capital spelled as Kyiv, prior to the war I only ever saw Kiev marked on maps. Mainly an old Risk board I had, because I seriously don't think I ever thought about Ukraine before the war other than discussions about Chernobyl. >>12811 No, I in fact hardly ever saw anyone outright shilling for Russia on /k/. I recall maybe 2 incidents where the teenagers from sharty came over to raid us, but in hindsight that may very well have just been there to stir up shit and rock the boat as revenge for /qa/'s deletion rather than on the whims of actual pro-Russian parties. So no, I don't think I ever actually saw any Russian sympathizers on /k/, only the horde mindlessly saying there were billions of them that THEY ALONE were holding back, right before you got banned for questioning their years-long raid that turned into a fucking occupation. The literal only reason I ever began to espouse outright pro-Ukraine sentiment is because I would be banned if I didn't stamp every other post with the assurance that I too hated Russians and loved Ukrainians. By the end, I actually came to fucking despise you and Ukraine by extension, whereas before I was merely a neutral observer who just wanted to see what was happening. You freaks turned what could have been an informative ongoing discussion of modern war into a shitflinging propaganda war on my home board, and of course you took even more liberties to shill for unpopular US politicians and their dogshit gun control policies, probably because the lion's share of you weren't even Americans and just expected my country to give you my tax money for free forever. What I remember the most was how quickly your attitudes changed when Trump was elected. It became pseudo-BJ sessions of felating the US (conveniently with Biden's face plastered onto those platitudes) to "FUCK AMERIKKKA FUCKING RUSSIAN AGENT SYMPATHIZERS VATNIK REPUBLICUCKS". I also remember earlier on a lot of poorly photoshopped spurdo comics where the joke is that everyone but Americans sees that Israel controls America, with America swapped for Russia. It was already a transparent mask, I could practically predict what the response was when it was finally ripped off.

>>12205 Chan lore is truly an interesting subject. I'd unironically pay for an in-depth historical account of different sites and boards, complete with greentexts as primary source material.

Mod and janny details from the Sharty, also they got a /k/ board now

>>12855 >NAFO shills I feel like we have to find a better thing to call that weird cultish group. I think adopting the /pol/ vernacular and calling them "NAFO" feels counterproductive since it just makes it sound like we're paranoid /pol/acks lashing out at imagined enemies, but pro-Ukraine really doesn't encapsulate what they seemed to be about, even if it is what I keep calling htem. >look at the average level of discussion in /chug/ versus the average level of discussion of around the war on /k/ and there's a stark difference. I only looked at /chug/ once, and it was actually just a week or two before 4chan got h4xx0red, but the level of discussion there was actually much higher than it was on /k/ at that point. They were keeping track of maps of where the front lines were and were talking about how close the Russians were getting to an important intersection, while on /k/ around that time nobody tried to keep track of offensives or what the actual situation at the front was, they just ranted about how much they hated Russians and posted gore clips while uncritically repeating official Ukrainian government casualty figures as fact. >attributing /k/ moving firmly to the "fuck Russia" camp to inorganic activity is retarded It wasn't exclusively inorganic, but every slight nudge in that direction was helped along with floods of what were probably bots making one word replies to posts just saying "based" or "this", or other positive reinforcement, while people who supported Russia or who simply disliked the lack of neutrality quickly had their posts deleted and were banned. I am guessing that some of those one word replies were from actual posters (probably phone posters though) and most of them probably went to the Soyjack chan instead of here, but I think a sizable portion of them were shills or even just bots that were programmed to identify certain patterns of keywords in posts and then make replies that expressed either support or disdain. > for what it's worth, I was never pro-Russia but I also was not - and am not - "pro-Ukraine". For what it's worth, I am using "pro-Ukraine" as a placeholder for the ideosyncratic set of beliefs the shill brigade would accuse people of being "ziggers" for not sharing. I don't really think you're a shill or anything either, and thanks for clarifying your position. > I really don't give a shit if Ukraine wins but I would love to see Russia lose and I've felt that way ever since dealing with the retards 10+ years ago talking about how the T-14 was going to be teh best tank evar and how le Russian engineering was superior to overpriced western toys I can understand where you're coming from. I was never bothered by retards hyping the T-14 for the same reasons I never was really bothered by the wehraboo retards who said that the King Tiger was the best tank of WW2 and the nazis had high tech kraut space magic. They never took over the board like the Ukraine people did, and a bit of retardation can be funny when it's just being wrong rather than being aggressive towards anyone who wants to not be retarded and getting you banned when you try. So for me I'll get similar catharsis to what you're seeking if I see Ukraine lose and Russians marching through Kiev. I don't have strong feelings either though so I'm sure we will be able to keep it civil. I'm sorry for getting pissy at you. >We're not talking about the events of the war in this thread, we're having a meta-discussion about the discussion of the war on /k/. Correct, which is why I have invited you to talk about the war in the correct thread. I'm positively giddy about the opportunity to finally be able to talk about the war civilly without getting derailed instantly into racial politics and then getting banned at about 6pm the next day when the janny shows up to do his sweep. >I also have posted in that thread, for what it's worth. Oh, sorry then, didn't realize that was you. In my defense the first few times I suggested it nobody made any posts there. >as I am not on any form of social media and I speak neither Russian nor Ukrainian I don't have easy access to primary sources (or what passes for them) on TG/twitter/etc I really need to find some alternate frontend or something for telegram, there is a working Nitter instance btw, https://nitter.poast.org/. You might have been the one who told me about that though. >I don't shitpost about the war, just as I don't shitpost in other places, and I resent the accusation. I retract the accusation and apologize for making it. >most of what I saw them remove, personally, was garbage. true, although I would like to point out two things about that. Firstly people who argued in good faith and then got banned for it only tried a few times before giving up, and thus only retards kept going in spamming garbage out of spite. Secondly pro-Ukraine garbage usually had to be extremely excessive to get deleted, things like flooding threads with gore. The jannies were hardly even handed though, and I think only one was banning people for not supporting Ukraine enough. I think the reason that sometimes people who weren't pro-Ukraine wouldn't get banned was mostly because the posts would get reported during another jannies shift and it'd get marked as resolved in the report queue before that janny saw it. >When shit like this is littering a board you like and there's a very obvious culprit, you tend to take a side against them even if for no other reason than you find them annoying. Again, remember the example of MLP on /co/. Which is exactly why the pro-Ukraine people are so reviled by most of the people here. You're the outlier here for having found the Russia shills more annoying in spite of them being less numerous and their shitposts actually being dealt with by the jannies. Most /k/ommandos here seem either sick of both sides because they never cared about the war in the first place or just sick of the pro-Ukraine "NAFO" side, very few here seem annoyed at the Russians. >I am enjoying this discussion a lot, though. It's fun. Me too >>12864 I really hope they don't come here. Let's hope the 8chan/8kun confusion and the confusion of where all the refugees were going makes them overlook our new little hideout. Maybe they'll go to the sharty instead, since that seems to have taken on even more refugees, and they seem dumber, so they're probably more easily influenced. >>12865 Yeah, I really don't remember much Russia shilling at all, not nearly on the cancerous flood that was the Ukraine shilling at least. I remember before the war started there was a schizo who would accuse nearly every OP of being Armatard, but not really much actual shilling even then. Memory is a fickle thing, and a lot of us remember differently than he does even though we have been told constantly for the last 3 years that there were Russian shills completely flooding the board before 2022.

>>12883 Isn't that the guy who ate a cruise missile once he outlived his usefulness?

>>12865 I once had a shill tell me, in a thread that was just trying to talk about weapons, that it was off topic. When asked why he unironically told me that it was because the board was for discussing Ukraine >>12881 look at the noses on those beasts, yowzah

>>12865 >No, I in fact hardly ever saw anyone outright shilling for Russia on /k/. Now I know you're lying.

>>12881 i love my canadian / euro brethren but they should never had mod or janny power over a weapons board ever. ever. the vast majority of america shouldn't either. >>12885 >cruise missile >usefulness i'm pretty sure it was just regular artillery strikes during yet another boring day of war. just like every other death in that shithole between the same stupid retards on both sides who cares. >>12886 the board was unusable outside of gay ass arg and hg for years because of those fucking tourists man

>>12889 Yeah, and I'm sure prigozhin's plane went down for mechanical failures.

>>12881 Funny how we have at least 2 government affiliated fags after the original hacker tried to pretend that there were none. >>12886 Yeah, I had that happen to me multiple times. Had normal gun threads taken down too, often after someone posted something like that in them.

>>12890 the weird bald faggot that kept talking shit from wagner? no i could see him getting offed one way or another, i thought he was actually in africa instead again, i would rather the entire region of the same cultural and genetic slavs get nuked with cobalt than ever hear anything else from nafo/putin faggots ever again

>>12885 Actually Ukrainian military intelligence and the CIA worked together to assassinate him and Motorola and then blamed it on FSB infighting. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

>>12892 no one should be surprised we had glowie jannies or mods after saiga (sp?) and that other guy got arrested

>>12881 >pavlov pic I don't need to check the early section for this one

>>12899 How about Whigs without the hat? Do you think you need to check the early life section of his Wikipedia page for some reason?

>>12901 Neo: What are you trying to tell me? That I can look up early life? Morpheus: No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

>>12901 >>12902 I checked out his youtube channel earlier. A few guys had already made it there and were questioning his ancestry. Says he's part Italian lmao.

>>12881 >none of the three Canadian jannies did anything cringe enough to have an anecdote in this image The most hard to believe thing in this image tbh. Also have this exclusive image of the kraut janny, I can't believe he was dumb enough to use his real name on it. Sasuga, Mr. Rieper.

>>12892 >Funny how we have at least 2 government affiliated fags after the original hacker tried to pretend that there were none. The thing about "government protected address" is wrong, he was just connecting in a way that made his IP register as part of the local network basically. The other guy definitely glows, but we know nothing about BicepHardthrust. Also the hacker just said that the claim that there were .gov email addresses was incorrect, which it is. I snagged the list really early on and I checked it myself. I think the hacker just wanted to make sure people knew they had the right set of dox and any ones with .gov email addresses were fakes put out to muddy the waters.

>>12406 Unusable is a stretch man. You still had regular threads only when something along the front popped off is when the threads got bad

>>12865 Are you kidding me? Poos and Vatniks constantly came in all the time not mention chinks screaming how good their tech is.

>>12912 Ahh, I majorly misread that then.

I’ll be honest. I never really cared about the whole nanny mod debacle more of Hiro being a retard

>>12461 Hind is probably the ideal personal attack chopper if that merc fighting a one helo war in Africa out of one is anything to go by. The troop compartment is shit for it's intended use but allowed him to haul his own munitions and supplies. Goofy ahh el camino of attack helicopters

>>12923 Jannies being retarded was a symptom of the site's wider mismanagement issues. Hiro stopped giving a fuck about anything like a year in, which wouldn't even be so much of a problem if his underlings weren't glue eaters and schizophrenics.

>>12925 I'm glad that the Hind still sees use to this day, and that my beloved Ka-52 isn't complete dogshit. Shame the Mi-28 sucks balls though, I always liked seeing it in vidya as an Apache or Cobra equivalent.

>>12926 My point exactly. Hiro was too retarded to actually manage the site which led to this. How hard was it for him to occasionally look at the site every month or so

>>12927 All the russian attack chopers are kind of ass but yeah KA-52 as an airframe is good. It's the everything elso that's the problem Hind is so fucking silly though. Like they sat down and put conscious effort into learning only the wrong lessons from American helo use in Vietnam. But something being silly doesn't make it uncool. Quite the contrary often.

>>12928 He was harvesting user date and selling it off of 2chan way before he got control of 4chan. One of the big reason the users hate him there too was because he was a lazy faggot who did jackshit to look after the site, which is why originally some users were actually optimistic about Ron taking control of it. He also let some Japanese political party shill there and delete threads about them after he was paid by them to do so. So him being a slimy fuck should have been expected by more from the start when he was handed control of 4chan, which many were but ignored.

>>12931 In all honesty who would actually want any Chan site nowadays. Too hostile to any advertising and way too many people who would kick them out. Not saying he’s good, just that he was pretty much the only choice after moot at the time

>>12932 What's The Shah doing these days in exile anyway? Did he finally become a little girl?

>>12929 Honestly the Mi-24 and Ka-52 are both excellent for their price and for the doctrine they were designed around. Comparing attack helicopters from different countries without considering the context they were designed for is like comparing tanks in the same way, it's stupid because every country designs tanks for their own needs. Like how the Abrams is a logistical nightmare for everyone but the US really, and Merkeva is the perfect tank... if you're Israel and you're doing the shit Israel does. Likewise T-72s and Mi-24s are wonderful for Russia and the countries they export them to tend to love them until they try to use their 30 year old un upgraded monkey models against an up to date opponent.

>>12883 >I feel like we have to find a better thing to call that weird cultish group. I think adopting the /pol/ vernacular and calling them "NAFO" feels counterproductive since it just makes it sound like we're paranoid /pol/acks lashing out at imagined enemies, but pro-Ukraine really doesn't encapsulate what they seemed to be about, even if it is what I keep calling htem. Agreed. I used that term because frankly I couldn't think of anything better to use. >I only looked at /chug/ once, and it was actually just a week or two before 4chan got h4xx0red, but the level of discussion there was actually much higher than it was on /k/ at that point. They were keeping track of maps of where the front lines were and were talking about how close the Russians were getting to an important intersection, I think we might be at odds on how we're respectively defining "level of discussion". To me, rolling generals are cancer unless they're temporary containment for an active happening, like hot dog man's thunder run to Moscow or the 2020 riots. The main problem with generals is that even when something isn't happening that deserves extensive discussion, grist is constantly needed for the mill to keep the hecking threadarino alive and that leads directly to spending tons of time going over shit that is functionally irrelevant just because it's there to go over as well as ritualposting and other trash. This phenomenon gets worse with how active the thread needs to be to stay alive, so that means that /chug/ is AIDS on par with gacha threads. To my mind, "over the last week, Russian forces have advanced 5km towards the village of Whogivesafuckgrad" is one singular (and relatively minor) item that probably doesn't even merit its own thread and spreading that out over those three days in dozens of threads with new maps detailing every hundred yards taken with the usual seals clapping and spamming memes at every micro-update is functionally /b/-tier. On top of that, any sort of general thread attracts the kind of people who are accustomed to posting in generals and those people are overwhelmingly cancer of the highest orders. >while on /k/ around that time nobody tried to keep track of offensives or what the actual situation at the front was, There was, but generally those threads were only made when there was some sort of actual news item as opposed to the drip-feed I mentioned earlier. I would also add that the maps aren't without bias either (even if incidentally from the information received) and /chug/ tends to use maps from pro-Russian sources (like Rybar) while the maps on /k/ were generally some flavor of more moderate OSINT. Not unimpeachable, certainly, but generally more transparent and accountable. >they just ranted about how much they hated Russians and posted gore clips Agreed, that's annoying. With that said - this is 4chan we're talking about. I think a lot of the bias, perceived and otherwise, has to do with the fact that the Ukrainians have been consistently putting out tons of high-quality video while the Russians haven't been putting out nearly as much footage and that footage isn't nearly as interesting. Comparing footage taken from miles away that looks like it's from a 40 year-old VHS with FHD drone footage of explosions from a few hundred yards away is night and day. Do you remember that vid the Russians released of the KA-52's thermals? It was in such shitty quality that there literally wasn't even anything to discuss besides laughing at the fact that it compared negatively to thermals footage from Desert Storm. And this is a pattern widely repeated in everything. There are stories out there about glownigger shenanigans and regular operations and life on the front coming out of Ukraine that aren't coming out of Russia and so even in a vacuum the discussion would tend to be somewhat one-sided. >while uncritically repeating official Ukrainian government casualty figures as fact. Lack of objectivity is a problem, but on the other hand pro-Russian numbers (for everything) through the entire war have generally been dogshit and that is a hill I will die on while numbers from nominally pro-Ukrainian sources have generally been more reputable. If you're referring specifically to that one guy who would spam that entire table as bugspray, however, I used to report him for that. For all the good it did. >It wasn't exclusively inorganic, but every slight nudge in that direction was helped along with floods of what were probably bots making one word replies to posts just saying "based" or "this", or other positive reinforcement, Or just the usual idiots doing their thing, especially given the number of war tourists. I wouldn't be surprised if there were bots or troll farms involved but I would also be skeptical of how much of an impact they had given that the board had been leaning on the Ukrainian side since the clankening and how much attention the war got from both within and without. I mean where else were they gonna go, the cesspit of /chug/? >while people who supported Russia or who simply disliked the lack of neutrality quickly had their posts deleted and were banned. Certainly unfortunate for the people posting in good faith, but from what I saw as a daily lurker there was generally very little good faith to be had. Again: ponies. Someone posts one and everyone assumes that they're stirring shit just because they were notoriously and consistently abused to that end in the past and more often than not it ends up being true simply because of that fact. Hopefully things will go more smoothly here, but if /chug/ starts showing up then that will go out the window instantly because they won't be able to help themselves from shitting things up. >I am guessing that some of those one word replies were from actual posters (probably phone posters though) and most of them probably went to the Soyjack chan instead of here, but I think a sizable portion of them were shills or even just bots that were programmed to identify certain patterns of keywords in posts and then make replies that expressed either support or disdain. I'd agree with that in principle if not specifics but we're both operating on supposition here as neither of us have any sort of figures. Or at least I don't and I'm assuming that if you had them you'd have posted them already. >I really need to find some alternate frontend or something for telegram Good luck with that. Share one if you find one. >I retract the accusation and apologize for making it. Thank you. >true, although I would like to point out two things about that. Firstly people who argued in good faith and then got banned for it only tried a few times before giving up, and thus only retards kept going in spamming garbage out of spite. Secondly pro-Ukraine garbage usually had to be extremely excessive to get deleted, things like flooding threads with gore. The jannies were hardly even handed though, and I think only one was banning people for not supporting Ukraine enough. Oh, agreed. Then again, feedback loop. Jannies learned to nip that in the bud quickly because whatever animus 4/k/ might have developed for Russia paled in comparison to their animus for /chug/ and co. for obvious reasons and if left alone it would easily destroy threads. Which was generally the idea of the people starting shit in the first place, of course. >I think the reason that sometimes people who weren't pro-Ukraine wouldn't get banned was mostly because the posts would get reported during another jannies shift and it'd get marked as resolved in the report queue before that janny saw it. Maybe? Sounds plausible, no evidence either way. >>12925 Hinds are sex. Giant goofy-ass flying IFVs. My favorite is the F just because the idea of a fucking helicopter mounting two 30mm autocannons makes me giggle. >>12927 >I'm glad that the Hind still sees use to this day, I love seeing them too. Iconic cold warrior. >and that my beloved Ka-52 isn't complete dogshit. Let's not be too hasty, now. Decent airframe, sharp looks, awful everything else. I'd be very interested to see an export version sent to someone who could do tap the potential there; maybe Malaysia or something.

>>12936 My personal conspiracy theory is that he was behind the h4x.

>>12937 I'll agree KA-52 got all the fundamentals right for it's era and is a decent system but I'll die on the hill that the hind is a bad idea built on misconceptions that still manages to be usable enough. Hip is one place homo sovieticus hit it out of the park though. Now that's a good helicopter

>>12938 Speaking candidly I was never bothered by the Ukraine threads. Granted very one sided but it’s because most people and myself included are for Ukraine from a self defense standpoint. But the mods and jannies didn’t help with the seemingly endless amount of threads about it but it didn’t help that any pro Russia perspective always came off with the same thing said every single time. All in all a general should’ve been made or a board dedicated to conflicts overall would have nipped it in the bud at least from a flood the same topic

>>12938 >On top of that, any sort of general thread attracts the kind of people who are accustomed to posting in generals and those people are overwhelmingly cancer of the highest orders. Yeah, and it was a /pol/ general on top of that. I wasn't expecting any sort of military analysis at all, much less decent analysis even if it was over minutia. >/chug/ tends to use maps from pro-Russian sources (like Rybar) The one they were using was from a source that labeled all the territory under Russian control as "temporarily occupied by Russia" and any advances made by Ukraine as "liberated". I didn't spend much time there and it sounds like you used it a lot, so I'll defer to your assessment, but I am just letting you know that from what little I did see, they didn't seem to be delusional morons to nearly the degree that /k/'s brigade of shitposters were. I also haven't looked into Rybar yet, so I'm going to reserve judgement as to whether they are a source that should be discounted entirely. > this is 4chan we're talking about. pre-2016 I most of the racism was because it was funny and edgy, actual hatred was considered to be cringe and gay. >has to do with the fact that the Ukrainians have been consistently putting out tons of high-quality video Phonk, filters, and cuts every quarter second do not good quality make. >Do you remember that vid the Russians released of the KA-52's thermals? yeah, and I remember this one that the jannies deleted the post it was attached to in a thread about the Ka-52. >Desert Storm *how do you do Italics here?* [i] is it like this?[/i] <i> how about like this </i> >There are stories out there about glownigger shenanigans and regular operations and life on the front coming out of Ukraine that aren't coming out of Russia and so even in a vacuum the discussion would tend to be somewhat one-sided. We wouldn't see that on /k/ if it did exist because the jannies would have deleted it. We should find out if the Russians put out similar stuff, it could be interesting. >pro-Russian numbers (for everything) through the entire war have generally been dogshit The Russian MoD doesn't seem to put out numbers constantly like Ukraine does, but I don't think their self reported casualty figures for their own side are too unreasonable. >nominally pro-Ukrainian sources have generally been more reputable. if you mean the Ukrainian claim that they've got a loss exchange ratio of like 8:1 in their favor then pull the other leg, it's got bells on it. Their claims about tanks destroyed and stuff also seem far fetched, but I haven't researched those thoroughly yet. >If you're referring specifically to that one guy who would spam that entire table as bugspray, however, I used to report him for that. For all the good it did. Not just him, but yeah, he was who I was thinking of primarily. I caught a ban once for just politely asking where he got the numbers. I was genuinely curious and didn't know it was straight from the Ukrainian ministry of defense. >from what I saw as a daily lurker there was generally very little good faith to be had. Again: ponies. again, most people gave up after a few bans. If someone was arguing in good faith they probably felt compelled to not ban evade, just like I did. Meanwhile the retards who didn't give up also would ban evade because they were shitters. >neither of us have any sort of figures. Or at least I don't and I'm assuming that if you had them you'd have posted them already. The only concrete figure I have is that one of the screenshots from the leak showed that only 26% of posts on /v/ were from browsers with mobile user agents. Which given the level of retarded spam there seems low. I think that a lot of the spam all over 4chan that looked like semi literate phone posters making one word responses were actually bots, and the short responses were to hide the fact that the bots couldn't really articulate anything complicated. Hence all those posts of "I ain't reading all that shit" in response to two sentence long posts. I have no real proof, but if those weren't made by phone posters then that would be surprising. >Share one if you find one. Will do. >whatever animus 4/k/ might have developed for Russia paled in comparison to their animus for /chug/ and co. for obvious reasons I think that animosity was less organic than you do. I just don't think enough of /k/ was part of the /uhg/ /chug/ split to even know about /chug/ beyond the vague idea that two /pol/ generals existed about Ukraine. Neither of us can really prove it and I think we're in accord on everything except degree, which neither of us can prove and it's really all just gut feelings. >Sounds plausible, no evidence either way. yeah, it's just my hypothesis. I'm sharing a lot of my hypotheses about what was going on in large part because I'm hoping that people might chime in with evidence or come up with some way to check.

>>12947 >The one they were using was from a source that labeled all the territory under Russian control as "temporarily occupied by Russia" and any advances made by Ukraine as "liberated". I didn't spend much time there and it sounds like you used it a lot, so I'll defer to your assessment, but I am just letting you know that from what little I did see, they didn't seem to be delusional morons to nearly the degree that /k/'s brigade of shitposters were. No argument about the labeling, but the maps themselves were pretty solid for the most part. >I also haven't looked into Rybar yet, so I'm going to reserve judgement as to whether they are a source that should be discounted entirely. I don't know about "entirely", but Rybar's maps are extremely generous to Russian claims to the point that even pro-Russian commenters have called him out as credulous. >pre-2016 I most of the racism was because it was funny and edgy, actual hatred was considered to be cringe and gay. Wew lad. Anyway, racism wasn't I was talking about; what I was talking about was the fact that mockery is popular in general and the Russians have provided an embarrassment of riches for that. >Phonk, filters, and cuts every quarter second do not good quality make. I'm not a fan of the ebin montages either but there is an unparalleled amount of HD combat footage out there from this war and almost all of it is at the expense of Russians, including and especially virtually all of the drone footage and first-person combat footage. >*how do you do Italics here?* [i] is it like this?[/i] <i> how about like this </i> Two apostrophes. If you click that fat cross in the upper left-hand portion of the page next to the settings button, that will take you to a page that has all of the information about text formatting. Not all of it works on every board, though. >We wouldn't see that on /k/ if it did exist because the jannies would have deleted it. We should find out if the Russians put out similar stuff, it could be interesting. That kind of stuff has been posted; there is just very little of it. The most notable instance that I can remember is the assassination attempts against Budanov that ended up putting his wife in the hospital and that was discussed at the time. Whether it's because the Russians don't do as much of it or if it's because the Russian military in general doesn't publicize their shenanigans to a degree comparable to the Ukrainians or because the Ukrainians successfully suppress news of successful Russian operations (I suspect a combination of all of the above) is up for debate but either way the difference is stark. What is the Russian equivalent to the Ukrainians blowing up Dugin's daughter or showing off their USVs after using them successfully? If there is one then I haven't heard of it and I've looked; that's the kind of thing that /chug/ would have been crowing about for months and I kept regular tabs on that place for anything that wouldn't have made it on /k/. >The Russian MoD doesn't seem to put out numbers constantly like Ukraine does, but I don't think their self reported casualty figures for their own side are too unreasonable. I do, given how wildly they're removed from basically every other estimate and Russia's long history of cooking the books for casualties. >if you mean the Ukrainian claim that they've got a loss exchange ratio of like 8:1 in their favor then pull the other leg, it's got bells on it. Nah, not that high. I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere between 4:1 and 6:1 for KIAs though, between playing defense and generally having better kit and training. By all accounts - including and especially from Russian soldiers and media from behind their lines - Russian CASEVAC and field medicine is abominable. In the first round of casualty figures that the Kremlin released (and then quietly revised lel) the WIA:KIA ratio was something like 2:1, which is marginally better than the average during the fucking Napoleonic Wars. >Their claims about tanks destroyed and stuff also seem far fetched, but I haven't researched those thoroughly yet. Look into Oryx. It's an OSINT visual database of both Ukrainian and Russian equipment losses. Certainly not infallible but an excellent resource. >The only concrete figure I have is that one of the screenshots from the leak showed that only 26% of posts on /v/ were from browsers with mobile user agents. Which given the level of retarded spam there seems low. I think that a lot of the spam all over 4chan that looked like semi literate phone posters making one word responses were actually bots, and the short responses were to hide the fact that the bots couldn't really articulate anything complicated. Hence all those posts of "I ain't reading all that shit" in response to two sentence long posts. I have no real proof, but if those weren't made by phone posters then that would be surprising. Back in the weeds again. I suggest that we drop this issue for lack of evidence. >I think that animosity was less organic than you do. I think that you're completely wrong on that one, but I respect your opinion and in lieu of numbers that we're never going to get that's going to have to be enough I guess. >I just don't think enough of /k/ was part of the /uhg/ /chug/ split to even know about /chug/ beyond the vague idea that two /pol/ generals existed about Ukraine. Neither of us can really prove it and I think we're in accord on everything except degree, which neither of us can prove and it's really all just gut feelings. That's one that I DO have a number for. The first 5000 results on the archive only go back to October '22, which is 30 months from now, which comes out to ~166 mentions of "chug" per month (I'll round that down to 160 to account for non-/chug/ related instances) which averages to /chug/ being brought up ~5.3 times per day, every day, for at least the last two and a half years. Also worth noting is that of the 495 uses of "chugger" in the archives, ~430 of them occurred since the start of the invasion (11.3 times/month) and the remaining ~65 occurred between the start of the invasion and August 2012 at an average instance of 0.57 instances per month. /k/ was extremely aware of /chug/. Math might be off but I think it's correct and I need to go to bed anyway. >yeah, it's just my hypothesis. I'm sharing a lot of my hypotheses about what was going on in large part because I'm hoping that people might chime in with evidence or come up with some way to check. I hope they do. Anyway, didn't mean to shift so much from meta-discussion to war discussion but some of it had to be brought up. I might not be able to respond over the weekend for various reasons but I'll check when I can.

>>12318 Pavlov was a crossover mod on /gif/ too, so it would explain a lot. Those of you who were present on /gif/ war threads know there was a mod spamming the war threads to kill any sort of discussion.

We need to get James Reeves or someone who was actually a /k/ regular who wont be a faggot to become the new moderator for /k/ if 4chan comes back and needs new moderators, which it probably will considering the current mods and jannies must be scared shitless. Someone who's willing to sticky shot show threads and the like and update the old fucking sticky /k/ had that only had a dead wiki in it. Maybe put some of the infographics people have made into as kind of a starter guide for newfriends.

>>12925 >Goofy ahh el camino of attack helicopters The Hind is the platonic ideal of "Helicopter Gunship"

>>12966 >The Hind is the platonic ideal of "Helicopter Gunship Genuinely no idea what you mean by this but yeah it's a really cool looking helicopter.

>>12968 Plato believed that all things in the world were imperfect representations of perfect forms which exists beyond our physical world in the realm of ideas. Think of "Gun" we all know a gun when we see it, and we know when something that's supposed to be "Gun" doesn't look right. Well in the platonic ideal there is a perfect "Gun" form or essence which all guns seek to approach.

>>12970 I know but by gunship do you just mean attack helicopter in general or something more specific? Because attack helicopter just brings an Apache to mind.

>>12321 Did you browse /an/ at all over the past few years? It was 90% consolewar spam and trolling. I don't think there were more than 20 actual users by the time of the shutdown. It was honestly a mercy killing for that board. Maybe if there was a non-retard mod there it could have been saved though.

>>12970 The Beretta M9 and 92FS

>>12613 inb4 screencap holy shit

>>12888 >>12920 How comes for years the board was filled to the brim with nothing but Ukraine shilling then? You weren't honorably holding off any kind of counter shill Russian hordes or anything. The only time I saw threads talking about Russian or Chinese stuff in a positive light it was VERY obviously someone trying to troll the Ukraineshills because they took the b8 every fucking time because y'all are dumber than shit and so caught up in your own propaganda swirl. Don't bring that delusional mindset here, you will not find fertile ground or friendly anons to that mentality you massive faggot

>>12985 You’re also creating a boogie man of some propaganda machine always coming in. Like for fucks sake man most of us agree with Ukraine because they’re defending themselves. But no anon it’s clearly a shill when someone has an opinion different than your faggot mind >everyone was a Ukraineshill because trolling Lol what?

>>12990 I like how that nigger completely ignored the point by the other anon about the flood tank gif's posted, or the spam of that photo of ukie tank column full of donated gear being abandoned after an attack.

>>12990 >You’re also creating a boogie man of some propaganda machine always coming in Yeah, the fact that our board had a resident glownigger tooootally wasn't suspicious. Why are you here? They don't pay you and you have no friends among the mods. The honeypot is over, go home.

>>12996 Because I like guns and shitting on russian incompetence.

>>12997 Well, guess you'll finally have to condense it to a general now. If there's enough of your kin to populate one. I for one am glad to be free of the spam and highly unnecessary censorship. The fact the mods banned our /k/aturday threads since the war started was enough to turn me against you all.

>>12999 >Today is Caturday >No /k/aturday thread Qurious

>>12996 >you have different opinion this means you’re a government shill Fuck off retard

>>12996 >I cannot comprehend someone else thinking differently than me weak

>>13000 Working on it. I've been trying to get a picture of my cat and a shotgun I picked up the other day for an OP pic but she keeps running. Considering giving up and just posting something older I might have, or just some picture of kittens with bunny ears since it's almost Easter. >>13002 >>13003 There's a difference between a difference of opinion and the astroturfed authoritarian fucking mess that was 4chan's /k/ over the last 3 years. You'll notice that the majority of altchan's /k/ boards aren't nearly as insane and rabid as they were. You ever wonder why they aren't here now? Because their job was done. Maybe you just came in the last 3 years and thought it was normal behavior around /k/. I can assure you it wasn't. Far fucking from it.

>>12990 Your reading comprehension skills are in the dirt, which makes perfect sense coming from someone who goons to drone footage all day. Can't imagine the state of the neurons in your brain. Also there is no le boogieman, we legit had a glowie mod you dumb nigger. We also very much had the board swamped with stupid Ukraine shilling where people would bleed from their assholes if you dared say anything not glowingly positive about Ukraine. I don't give a fuck about either side of this conflict, but I find myself more sympathize towards Russia purely because pro-ukraine faggots won't shut the fuck up. Plenty of other anons in this thread have echoed this sentiment. We don't want this culture to take root here because you are all massive faggots who can't into basic conversation because of your Russian brain worms

>>13005 No anon it’s clear you want one opinion on the board to be yours anyone who disagrees is a covert shill who loves mods. There is also plenty of anons who don’t agree with you but way to ignore that. Fuck me though because I see self defense as a good thing

>>13004 Admittedly, 4/k/ was not one of my most used boards. I'd always just assumed both the pro and anti ukraine threads were bots tbqhdesu.

>>13004 >authoritarian mess I guess you weren’t around for the sandy hook or the first election. The whole board was completely useless so don’t act like this war is the main reason why

>>13008 Probably were, in large part. >>13010 Sandy vag was different, the election and this were due to political biases of the mod teams. And don't do this whataboutist stuff with me, for a long time it had become the norm for Ukraine tourists to control the majority of the catalog (sometimes all of it) and the rest of us to be confined to a few generals as our sole refuge. If you had to spend even a year locked in a room with Yukari, you'd fucking hate the dudes who necessitated that too. Anyway, what do you guys think I should title the /k/aturday thread? Easter edition, something about refugees, or referencing the long wait since we've had one? Maybe just first edition for a clean start here?

>>13014 /k/ollapse edition Bugout edition ACK edition

>>13010 Neither of those were anywhere close to the same as the complete hostile takeover that came with the war and you know it. You faggots always played this game during the war. If you couldn't shout down with numbers, you would instead play stupid just like you're doing now.

>>13019 >neither of those were close I remember every damn day threads were full of the same shit flinging the war stuff brought. All I’m saying is that you are allowed to pick a side in the war so always expect a different opinion BUT the war should’ve had a general or separate board to off load all the shit with it. Fucking hell feels like I’m arguing with a wall

>>12958 >even pro-Russian commenters have called him out as credulous. Then he might be a source of entertainment rather than information, now I've gotta look into him. >Wew lad I do remember when I first starting using 4chan actual racism was pretty rare. Trying to get people to join the KKK and stuff was done to piss off moralfags and to laugh at anyone who actually fell for it and joined the klan. >Racism wasn't I was talking about A lot of the posts were genuinely racist though in all the cringiest ways. Like I can tell you're clearly not the type to engage in that sort of thing, but I think that the bulk of the (we still need to come up with a better name for them) NAFO crowd, race stuff was genuinely how they viewed the world, and they had no interest in the war except as a way to reinforce their beliefs that Russians were subhuman asiatics who were naturally inferior to whites. >unparalleled amount of HD combat footage out there from this war and almost all of it is at the expense of Russians I have no way to evaluate if that's accurate since I will admit I largely tuned out the war to avoid the temptation to say something that would get me banned. I also don't have access to the Russian telegrams and the like where they would share that sort of thing. I will say that the vast majority of what I saw posted from the NAFOs was either phonk montages or drone dropping a grenade on someone who isn't paying attention or who is hors de combat, neither of which is interesting combat footage no matter how high the resolution. >including and especially virtually all of the drone footage and first-person combat footage. I'm sure this is just selection bias of the stuff I saw, but pretty much all the stuff at the Ukrainians expense was good, while nearly all of the stuff at the Russians expense was absolute garbage. Like the knife fight or this cool ass drone ambush, or that funny tank goof. >I suspect a combination of all of the above Yeah, probably. >given how wildly they're removed from basically every other estimate and Russia's long history of cooking the books for casualties. They seem to be within an order of magnitude of the other estimates, and I'm not saying they're correct, just not as ludicrous as the Ukrainians claim that they only had like 50k unrecoverable casualties back in January. I haven't been keeping up with the war enough to have any way of getting even to the right ballpark for how many casualties each side has taken, so getting within an order of magnitude or so is reliable compared to that. >I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere between 4:1 and 6:1 for KIAs though I would for a couple reasons, but we really should be discussing this stuff in the proper thread, see you there on Monday and let's try and find good sources of information on this and maybe come to a consensus. >including and especially from Russian soldiers and media from behind their lines - Russian CASEVAC and field medicine is abominable. I know I just said we should take this to the appropriate thread, I don't want to forget about this and not bring it up then. While Russian CASEVAC and field medicine is bad, Ukrainian CASEVAC and field medicine isn't so hot either. I was listening to an interview with a German combat engineer who had volunteered in Ukraine and he mentioned that it could take hours or even days for casualties to be evacuated, and they were needing to use things like blood heaters in the field. >Look into Oryx I have, I loved their North Korea book. I also have seen their equipment losses page, and it's mostly good, although when I was going through some of the pictures I noticed that some of the time, especially the later ones as the war dragged on, the pictures weren't very good at all and it was really impossible to even tell what kind of equipment was hit, much less whether it was destroyed or merely damaged. >I suggest that we drop this issue for lack of evidence. agreed >/k/ was extremely aware of /chug/. You are operating under the assumption that it was /k/ommandos making those posts rather than tourists. We can't tell either way and I continue to believe it wasn't /k/ommandos primarily complaining about /chug/. > I might not be able to respond over the weekend for various reasons but I'll check when I can. see ya monday, I'm sure this thread will still be up. >>12964 Well that's certainly fascinating. >>12990 >most of us agree with Ukraine because they’re defending themselves. Most /k/ommandos realised it was more nuanced than that. Black and white thinking wasn't exactly rare on /k/ even before the war, but we were mostly aware that the conflict wasn't quite so simple. Most /k/ommandos also tended to support secessionist movements on principle. >But no anon it’s clearly a shill when someone has an opinion different than you There were definitely shills, and notice how now that we aren't on 4chan anymore, suddenly /k/ isn't pro-Ukraine now only a few people are even trying to say there was any organic component to the pro-Ukraine hysteria at all, and I think you're the first person who seems to be arguing it was entirely organic. >>12994 So two instances in 3 years? How does in any way justify the constant flood of cancerous shit that was spammed in support of Ukraine? I think a lot of the posts during the counter offensive were /k/ommandos who were just sick of the "Ukraine is perfect and Russia is incompetent" narrative, and the tank gif was probably the funniest part of the whole war. >>13000 >>13002 >>13003 You know we have an IP count here? It hasn't gone up since last night. You're the only person on this board who makes one word shitpost replies like this. >>13004 >You ever wonder why they aren't here now? Because their job was done. I think it's also because re directing shilling operations probably takes time and the people in charge will need to have a bunch of meetings. They also probably don't know where to direct their efforts since there are /k/s on other altchans. We should hope they go to the sharty instead of here. >Maybe you just came in the last 3 years and thought it was normal behavior around /k/. He might have been a /pol/ migrant from around 2016 or something who believed the whole thing about /k/ being a /pol/ exclave and pontificating on racial hierarchies and nonsense like that was normal on /k/. >>13005 > if you dared say anything not glowingly positive about Ukraine. or if it wasn't frothingly racist towards Russians.

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>I find myself more sympathize towards Russia purely because pro-ukraine faggots won't shut the fuck up. The one thing that I will miss about the shills is if Ukraine completely collapses and Russia rolls into Kiev and takes the whole country over I won't be able to watch the shill damage control spiral. Waiting years for that wouldn't have been worth it though. >We don't want this culture to take root here because you are all massive faggots who can't into basic conversation >>13006 >it’s clear you want one opinion on the board to be yours The other NAFO guy is fine, I've been having a civil conversation with him. Heck, read the first reply of this post. What we don't want is low effort shitposting like what you're doing. You might notice that a huge proportion of this thread is composed of long form posts, longer than you could even post on 4chan, rather than the sorts of one word mobilefag Youtube comment tier shit you post. Lurk moar and only post when you have something intelligent to contribute. >There is also plenty of anons who don’t agree with you You've already engaged in obvious samefagging, so stop embarrassing yourself. You've got one anon who agrees with you out of 85 unique IDs active on this whole board, so maybe try to emulate him by being well informed and making reasonable and intelligent points in support of whatever arguments you try to make. I think he's probably embarrassed by you. >>13008 yeah, probably. I think a lot of the pro-Russia ones were just bait from trolls though. >>13010 >I guess you weren’t around for the sandy hook or the first election. What the fuck does the Obama vs Romney election have to do with anything? I don't think there were any dedicated /k/ mods back then, although I was mostly a /b/tard at the time. >>13014 >what do you guys think I should title the /k/aturday thread? Easter edition I like Easter personally, given the connections with resurrection and rebirth. We were dead for 3 years instead of 3 days, but Long Cat is long and Catnorak is not yet upon us. >>13019 >Neither of those were anywhere close to the same as the complete hostile takeover that came with the war and you know it. I suspect that he actually doesn't know it. He probably wasn't on /k/ for them and only heard about it from the same crowd that said that /k/ always hated Russians and shit. If he was on /k/ for them he might not have noticed how bad the Ukraine stuff got because he lacks the self awareness to realize he was the problem.

>>13028 Oops, I meant the Obama vs McCain election.

>>13028 Make a thread and stay there so I can hide it pl0x ty

>>13028 jej

>>13028 >obvious samefagging Look man I’m done arguing since you clearly can’t listen and just so you know most of /k/ is anti government so they could care less about all this

>>13028 >>13031 Was he not referring to Trump vs Hillary?

>>13028 i wouldn't say i'm pro-ukraine exactly, as i'm mostly interested in the conflict for selfish reasons EG finally getting to watch a piece of history as a large-scale war unfolds before our eyes. but i do think russia's clause for both crimea, the donbass and later 2022 being "they were suppressing the totally organic secessionist movement that we totally didn't start by shoveling them a bunch of flagless men and weapons" is pretty weak, and constantly victimizing the relatively minor amount of civvies that got shelled as a result of ukraines meagre and pretty half-assed attempts to get rid of these totally organic and not planted insurgent forces i just don't buy the story at all, especially given that most of the leaders and figureheads of this insurgent force are either dead, in russian or ukrainian jail, or are in russia and have been pretty nonchalantly loyal to the russian state and not donbass when their ploy was no longer needed and "actual" marked russian forced occupied the region. alltogether this makes the war somewhat black and white for me, with not a whole lot of grey. you can argue whether or not ukraine's response to this fuckery was as holy and morally superior as it could've been but ultimately i don't think they deserve to have a big chunk of their country ripped out simply because russia got scared that (with the clangening) they might otherwise have to deal with competition in their energy exports and might actually have to develop their real economy in response.

>>13032 >>13034 >>13036 oh please, anyone who can't fake a (you) probably doesn't even have the brainpower to find 8chan's /k/. Trying to astroturf us isn't going to work, everyone here is already sick of your shit. There is a Ukraine thread already, but quite frankly you probably won't participate because you know you'll see things that don't conform to your fantasy world where Ukraine is winning effortlessly and everything you see is just further proof of Russia's inferiority to your beloved NATO. Feel free to say "you're brown" or call me a "thirdie" or whatever, I know you want to. >>13037 Well he said "the first election" and 2008 was the first election after /k/ was created.

>>13039 I do get the Russian agitation stuff, I never liked the fuckers claiming they were master propagandists and spies who somehow conspired to get Trump elected. Didn't belong there anyway, but they were allowed to post this. The mere fact that the height of Russia's secret warfare techniques were to send Russian troops with Russian kit speaking Russian into Crimea, but get this, they didn't have any patches on. Soooooo mysterious, who could have paved the way in Crimea? Muh Little Green Men! It's subtlety if you're a caveman who sees smashing someone in the face with a brick as a plan Caesar and Napoleon would weep for, as it showed them to be inferior tacticians. But somehow this means they can hack a US election, but only on odd-numbered terms, and didn't choose to invade in the 4 prior years that their supposed puppet was in office. It was especially odd and jarring that they'd go on and on and on about how Russians were always inferior untermensch who were incapable of anything and that the Soviet Union was entirely propped up by Ukraine, only to do a 360 and say "but they're actually extremely genius at subverting and infiltrating other countries to the point that they control half of the US government, and it just so happens to be the party I hate"

No I'm just going to call you a fucking schizo, go to your thread already fuck

>>13042 Whatever fuels your fantasy buddy, I've already made it clear I don't give a fuck about either side of the shitflinging >Feel free to say "you're brown" or call me a "thirdie" or whatever, I know you want to. I would've gone with "schizo" but sure

>>13042 No one is talking about NATO and again you’re thinking everyone is a shill. And correct me if I’m wrong weren’t we discussing the board in general and how 4chan was being retarded. It’s easy to blame the mods who were massively biased but Hiro is the true retard for letting the site fester and get this bad in the first place

>>13048 >but Hiro is the true retard for letting the site fester and get this bad in the first place bots make sites money; ads pay more for clickthrough, but they also pay a smaller rate for views. More bots means more views means more money from ads. Botfarms will also buy passes to get around post restrictions.

>>13042 >trying to astroturf us isn't going to work get over yourself, you're trying to do the exact same thing right now. maybe you should realize that trying to astroturf eachother out of existence is never going to happen and you're both organic people with opposite opinions that have to share a board together, capiche?

Stop fighting retards this is extremely gay.

>>13044 i agree and i think it's extremely obnoxious how this topic, much like every topic nowadays, is fueled by fucking contrarianism. lefties already had their little delusion that russia was responsible for 2016 and and not them losing organically and the ukraine war provided a perfect segueway for them extending this narrative into 2024 where they once again refuse to acknowledge that they're losing organically. this created ANOTHER contrarian response where many on the right started outright excusing russia's blatant and not at all sneaky or concealed bullshit simply because fuck dems if they hate it it must be good. that's mostly from personal experience with friends and family members thoughever, your mileage may vary.

>>13055 My personal experience has usually been that most people around me don't like the drain the war is on our economy and they don't like that it makes them feel like we're approaching WW3. I know earlier on a few churches around here had put "pray for Ukraine" on their signs. Haven't seen much regarding taking sides, even from my faggot liberal little brother who actually voted for Kamala and whines about equity. I tested the waters with a sorta pro-Ukraine take a while back and he kinda just didn't want to talk about it.

>>13039 >i'm mostly interested in the conflict for selfish reasons EG finally getting to watch a piece of history as a large-scale war unfolds before our eyes. I'm very much in that camp, I want to be able to talk about the war without every thread being filled with shitposts about the racial inferiority of Russians or how "NATO doctrine" is better than whatever Russia is doing, in spite of the poster clearly understanding neither the doctrines of NATO countries or what Russia is doing. > i do think russia's clause for both crimea, the donbass and later 2022 being "they were suppressing the totally organic secessionist movement that we totally didn't start by shoveling them a bunch of flagless men and weapons" is pretty weak I think the secessionist sentiments were at least partially genuine, people like Givi and Motorola seemed to be true believers. I can't hold it against secessionists from tiny breakaway communities when they accept help from a powerful ally, the US got a lot of arms and support for the Revolutionary War from France after all, so holding it against them would be hypocritical of me at the very least. I agree though that helping the people of the DNR and LPR was unlikely to be the real reason that Russia invaded. I think that Russia invaded for much more complicated reasons, like concerns about NATO involvement in Ukraine, and the way the government transition after the Maidan stuff seemed pretty luminescent. I don't care which side is in the right morally or whatever, but I do know that it's not just Ukraine is good and Russia is evil. >constantly victimizing the relatively minor amount of civvies that got shelled as a result of ukraines meagre and pretty half-assed attempts to get rid of thes During the period from February 1st to July 31st 2021 the number of ceasefire violations shot up by 369% over the previous six month period, resulting in a 51% increase in civilian casualties, primarily (77%) in separatist regions. So right after Biden entered office the fighting picked up it seems that fighting started to pick up dramatically, and then after a year of renewed fighting Russia invaded. >most of the leaders and figureheads of this insurgent force are either dead I'm still pretty bitter about having been tricked by the Ukrainians and the CIA into believing that Givi and Motorola were assassinated by the FSB. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html >this makes the war somewhat black and white for me It seems like you are ignoring a lot of the context and just cherry picking the stuff that supports the narrative you prefer. >>13044 >I never liked the fuckers claiming they were master propagandists and spies who somehow conspired to get Trump elected Really it was Israel that got Trump elected, just like every other president for decades. >>13046 >>13047 stop samefagging, it's really obvious. >>13048 >No one is talking about NATO The pro-Ukraine clique constantly sucked off NATO, it was constantly article 5 this and NATO blah blah blah that. I think a lot of them were European and supporting NATO made them feel like they were part of a group with a powerful military, since they could then lump the US into that. > you’re thinking everyone is a shill. No, I think I'm dealing with an autistic samefag who is hoping that if you samefag a bunch you will be able to normalize the shitposting you did on 4/k/ over here. >>13051 No >>13051 >, capiche? You're not less obvious just because you replaced ", no?" with capiche. I still imagine you as dr evil doing the pinky thing whenever you do that shit. >>13055 >>13057 I just want the board to be able to engage in discussions about the war without the constant bitter shitposting that taking sides brought. Or for that matter being able to talk about anything military related without the Ukraine brigade showing up and screeching about how whatever the topic is must be a slide thread to distract from their pet war. Or any thread about a non-US-aligned country's military being turned screeching about how NATO is better than them and anything positive that is being said about that military is just thirdie cope and everyone who wants to talk about them is a shitskin.

>>13062 >he still thinks it’s samefagging You’re entire thought process is if I have a positive opinion on Ukraine I’m a shill and nato cocksucker (bold assumptions on your part btw) it’s like you have ignored anything I said about the mods being shit, jannies being biased, and the site being shit just because I said I’m more on Ukraine’s side than Russia’s. You want the board to have decent debate but sperg out the entire thread with shill this nafo that. Seriously man quit being a dense faggot already

>>13067 *your Fuck can’t type today

>>13062 look, buddy, you need to let go of the idea that everyone pro-ukraine is samefagging or non-organic, you have your opinion and i'll have mine and that's fine, and i even understand that you might be a bit shellshook from the constant shitflinging contest before 4ch got nuked, but what you're doing right now is continuing the bitter shitposting by trying to delegitimize other voices. take a deep breath and take it easy daze.

>>12965 I like James, but he doesn't have time for that. he's too busy being a lawyer and fucking male asshole

>>13062 >I want to discuss the war without taking sides >except you have to agree with me >also you're a shill if you don't >also everyone who disagrees is a samefag You realise you're perpetuating the problem right? You've assigned an in group and out group about things nobody brought up, and are trying to dunk on people by shoving them into that box. You're the only one bringing up these points. You've created an argument where there was none.

>>13071 Let's all just look at the pretty loach and calm down.

>>13076 i somehow feel jealous of this guy leaning against her. is this what those self-proclaimed incels feel when they see a chad thundercock with a pretty girl? she should be mine.

>>13077 I just envy him for being able to fly a helicopter at all. You basically have to be a newtype

>>13076 I miss old future concepts

>>13078 don't knock yourself anon, you never know if you could be a good helicopter pilot because you've probably never seriously put your mind to it or haven't had the time or money (or don't want to enlist). there's plenty of reasons why you're not a stud helicopter pilot, most of them probably not your fault. don't limit yourself mentally like that, always stay open to the possibility that you COULD be a helicopter pilot anon.

>>13078 Pretty loachs all in a row

>>13076 Damn you're right what am I doing

>>13067 >>13071 You are an absolute sperglord for trying to keep this up after you were called out. Just accept that you fell for a propaganda campaign and move on. You don't have to like Russia or start hating Ukraine, just accept that your little clique wasn't actually popular and would have been laughed out if it wasn't propped up by shills and protected by the jannies. Now there are only like two of you here, and if you say stupid shit we're going to call you out on it. I'm very much not the only one arguing with you either, my posting style is pretty fucking obvious, and I don't try to samefag like you do. > trying to delegitimize other voices. really putting that oppression studies degree to good work here, maybe you are a fucking shill.

We should wordfilter ukraine to niger and russia to nigeria

>>13083 anon please stop, take a chill pill. i was beginning to enjoy this place, don't ruin this new start.

>>13083 >8chan already ruined by the halfchan tards

>>13083 You really are a retard. Fucking chill out and realize others will have a different stance than you

>>13084 Ask the BO, could be funny.

>>13086 i think he's probably still agitated from the nonstop shitflinging contest that was 4/k/ he'll mellow out and stop seeing shills everywhere in a few days (i hope)

>>13080 Nah, I'm genetically inferior, and almost 30 but that's ok. Sentiment's nice though anon. If I pressed start to rich one day, I could probably at least buy a gyrocopter and as copes go it looks really fun https://youtu.be/MUEt1xcLuW8?feature=shared

>>13090 don't gyrocopters have the benefit of being much better gliders and thus much safer in case of an engine out?

>>13093 Yes, they're actually very safe and easy to fly after they fixed the the design flaw in the tail iirc thst made them go ass over teakettle. I dream a world where they're the mopeds of the skies

>>13079 >FAMAS I want on the timeline where everything is this kino

>>13096 it turns out what humanity needed was not flying cars, but flying mopeds. sadly that will never be a reality because it's not a technical challenge but a challenge with drivers being fucking retarded.

>>13079 when's their next album coming out? :^)

>>13079 I'd kill for a battlefieldlike with a cold war prototypecore setting. Colt SCAMPs, HARDIMAN suits, Brunswick RAW korobovs the works

>>13085 dude, if you think that's any sort of evidence you're either not smart enough to know how to fake it, which would be embarassing, or you're just being dishonest. >i was beginning to enjoy this place, don't ruin this new start. You ruined the last place, so I really don't want to see what you look like if you try to enjoy this place. >>13086 >>13087 Stop samefagging. You aren't going to convince anyone that your obviously dishonest attempts to pretend the pro-Ukraine spam was organic are actually just people being mad that you disagree with them. You spent the last 3 years shitting up /k/, and you aren't going to get any fucking sympathy here. The contrarian assholes who would fall for the old "you're just as annoying as the people who spent the last 3 years shitting up /k/ because you are confronting them about it" all went to the sharty. You aren't going to get any fucking sympathy here.

>>13102 Don't get your panties in a twist anon You're inventing arguments where none existed You are creating the very same bait and seethe you are sperging out against

>>13102 well you're not gonna chill out, that's too bad, hope you don't ruin every thread now the moment someone says something vaguely positive about ukrops now. i still think you're just fucked up from the last 3 years.

>>13102 you know, i hope you know that i never agreed with all of the gestapo level bullshit mods were doing, you think pro-ukrainians were any more capable of doing anything about it than you were? many of us were perfectly willing to engage in civil discussion with opposing opinions but that chance was squashed almost every single time by tourist spam and janny intervention. i really don't harbor any bad blood towards you, i hope you know that.

>>13102 You might be the dumbest motherfucker using this website right now actually

>>13102 Somebody didn't look at the loach

>>13111 Sad times we live in... I love loach

>>13102 look, you can sit here and sulk trying to proclaim ownership of /k/ or you can enjoy yourself and post funs, which one is it gonna be? because the latter sounds way more fun to me.

>>13102 Holy fuck man chill out

>>13111 let's all learn to love loach https://youtu.be/abNqiPFqT74

>>13102 I agree with you, but most of the old user base has already left, it's been replaced by leftoids and NAFO shills that want ""common sense gun control"".

>>13113 Blows my mind to know we had a man portable AGL in vietnam Sadly it remained an XM for a reason

>>13122 meant for >>13120

>>13089 dude, I am not going to make you go back and read the reply chain, but he wasn't just saying he supported Ukraine, he was saying that the Ukraine spam was organic, then is trying to twist the argument into "well if you think most of the Ukraine spam was bots you must think everyone who disagrees with you or supports Ukraine is a shill". He's being dishonest and trying to act like what we are trying to do is suppress pro-Ukraine posts, instead of being mad about the shills. >>13104 >>13107 You're obviously being dishonest, you started this by saying that anyone who acknowledged that there was a shill campaign was just a schizo and now you're trying to act like this is all about silencing discussion when that's what you're clearly trying to do yourself. Your post is right here >>12990 we can see what you are doing. >>13110 What on earth is that mp4 supposed to prove? Do you think I am so dumb I'd go "oh, well it's in the HTML, I guess he didn't delete the (you)"? Even if the (you) tags were persistent between the .se and .moe domans, that still wouldn't be convincing. >>13111 Sorry, I'm just mad at myself because I tried to avoid letting the argument get derailed from the point of whether shills existed by just not acknowledging his bullshit about "you're just trying to suppress pro-Ukrainian voices", and he managed to weasel it around so that it looks like he's responding to what I'm saying instead of deflecting onto a totally different topic that I'm not actually arguing against. I've seen him do it before on 4/k/ and I shouldn't have fallen for it this time. >>13113 >>13116 I'm not crazy I'm not arguing against him just supporting Ukraine, he said there were no shills, and is now trying to act like realizing the shills were on /k/ actually means that you think everyone who disagrees with you is a shill, and that you're just trying to silence people you disagree with. He said that there were no shills here >>12990 then he tried to twist the argument here >>13002 and >>13003. I'm not arguing with someone who just supports Ukraine, I'm arguing with someone who was saying there were no shills and then engaged in a bunch of slippery bullshit.

>>13124 <claims to not be crazy <sperging the fuck out <schizo tier delusion Could you fuck off to soyparty? That's where all the tards went, I think you'll fit in well.

>>13124 >Do you think I am so dumb At this point I know you're dumb You're inventing arguments where none existed, you're trying to "win" an "argument" by lumping every single anon replying to you into a box of "Shills and Propagandists" and then pretending they're all the same fucking anon, and ignoring the fact that several of the people responding to you said both types of fucking spams were bots. You have your fucking panties in a twist over several people who just have a different opinion than you do, and can't seem to grasp that idea. If this is bait, it's top tier for sure. Good work if so. If this is genuine, go sperg out on xitter or something. You're the only one ruining this thread right now.

>>13124 The Ukraine shill are just no gun leftoids that lie about what they are doing. Leftoids always lie, cheap, and steal. You cannot argue with them.

>>13124 Take a break man

>>13124 at this point i'm not even reading the wall of text anymore, also you're the only one making these walls of text, if you believe we're all samefagging anyway why bother responding to each post individually eh?

>>13129 Sure anon whatever you say

>>13124 If you keep yellin' a loach is gonna get you >>13126 >>13128 And that goes for you two as well. Stop engaging

I dont have time to make some schizo fuck off, I'm running /b/ as well and thats got crazy activity. If anyone has time to protect their home, I could use a volunteer. Make an account and post the name to the meta and I'll hire you. Idc if all you do is hang in this thread and make sure this shit doesnt happen again lol. That alone would free up some time for me. Anyways, please consider it. Thx.

>>13124 >your post is right here. anon...that's not my fucking post. at this point i'm not even gonna bother screencapping anymore either, i've got nothing to prove. you're in a hell of your own creation right now and the more you keep sperging out rather than making a meaningful post the more i think you deserve it.

>>13133 i'd rather engage the loach iffin you know what i mean.

>>13133 >tfw you will never get to fire an m240 out the side of a flying deathtrap why go on? why even bother?

>>13140 get a /k/at that'll give you another reason to keep going.

>>13138 Can do Chief!

>>13134 If you want to schizos to fuck off, ban the Ukraine shilling.

>>13142 good. now make it pregnant.

>>13142 kek nice OC, i should really open up GIMP more often and tape together silly stuff like that again, it really is the lifeblood of most boards and the fact that nobody was doing it on 4ch anymore was testament to how hollowed out it really was.

>>13006 This is an absolutely insane takeaway from my post that I want one opinion here lmao. I don't mind having guys who are ostensibly pro-ukraine here, but more than that I don't want the shillfags here shitting up the place with their brain dead banter. Your reading comprehension truly is in the gutter if you read this thread(I'm assuming you haven't given your retarded responses) and took away people just categorically hate Ukraine, we just hate the dipshit spamming their supporters have done for years because it's all just anti-russian racism and absolutely insane takes from pro-ukraine schizos. If you think this kind of discourse is just you having a le opinion, youve got holes in your brain from hanging around these demented people who were shitting up 4/k/ for years. That's absolutely not how discourse on the war should be done, especially on fucking /k/ where initially(for a week) people had normal /k/ takes on the war and were just interested in the tactics and use of weapons before the bots showed up and astroturfed everything. You'd know how artificially it was if you weren't such a newfag

>>13134 I'm not a schizo, I'm just really frustrated. Also kinda thirsty. We had to deal with a lot of shit back on 4/k/ and it's nice of you to take us in. >>13135 Look, if you aren't actually a samefag I apologize, but that guy did frequently samefag and the replies I saw to that post were pretty much identical and were seconds apart. There was a pretty annoying troll who would derail conversations on 4/k/ and he'd end posts with ", no?" a lot of the time, and he'd samefag fairly often too. Here's one of his posts from the day before 4chan got h4xed https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63578879/#63597932 >>13143 Honestly I don't know if that will be necessary, and that could make having sincere discussions about the war difficult, which would bum me out.

>>13147 you're reminding me that i haven't drank water since i stepped in my car 5 hours ago. remember to hydrate, my nigga's.

>>13148 Dehydration and having one's cat wage a guerilla warfare campaign against your ability to type can make a man cranky.

>>13143 constantly banning one or the other is what what aggravated it to such a shitshow on 4/k/ to begin with. the actual solution would've been shoving it all into one thread and instagibbing anything that leaked out, while leaving moderation to a minimum in said containment bread.

>>13151 i wish my kot was still alive :(

>>13146 >>13147 Give it a rest already holy shit

>>13152 I agree. There was also the pervasive problem that began like a year and a half ago of noguns yuros who were just there for the war tourism peeping into other threads and posting their stupid ass opinions on guns. You could tell it was them as well because they would parrot stuff that was obviously dumb if you actually owned guns with such sincerity because that's the closest they will ever get to owning guns. Not to attack yuros who do own guns(thats its own topic) but a lot of the noguns ones were just really annoying, and they were only attracted there in the first place because of the war tourism. It was just one problem, but caused many

>>13155 not the same guy as wallposter you massive faggot. Not everyone here likes you

>>13157 Uh huh

>>13152 I've said before repeatedly that I'm not going to talk about the war in this thread, and I think I've actually done a fairly good job of it. I'm really just trying to make sure that the pro-Ukraine crowd get pushback since I think that's the best way to avoid them becoming cancerous again. I think a lot of them were genuinely convinced and didn't realize how strong the dislike for them was. >>13154 I miss my old cat, so I understand your pain. She was the sweetest cat ever, and no other cat will ever replace her in my heart. I love my current cat, but I had to wait about a year before I could even look at a cat without crying, and another year before I was ready to adopt a new one. >>13157 >wallposter Ouch, was I really that bad?

>>13160 >still peddling this >i'm just giving pushback you're in PTSD mode because you're convinced that pro-ukraine posting is inorganic newsflash: it wasn't, we're still here, difference is all the actual tourists and also sharty agitators that just wanted to spark shitshows are gone. the fact that you're still in denial about this is why you were getting shat on so hard earlier, not whatever argument you were having with that one dude who made 3 very similar posts. >i miss my old cat, so i understand your pain. thanks anon, mine didn't get have some tragic death story, just got old and i found her under a bush near my house, he was pretty damn old, i think he almost got to 21. i still don't have a new one as i had to move to a much busier area for work reasons and i don't want him getting ran over by some fentanyl zombie.

>>13152 The Ukraine supporters have shown themselves to be bad faith actors. There is no helping them.

>>13144 >>13145 I'm learning a new art program (Krita) since I switched from windows to linux. I used to use paint.NET and I liked it, but I feel out of my depth with a full fledged program that actually works now kek

>>13090 >If I pressed start to rich one day

>>13169 They've spent to much time in their weird echo chamber I think they forgot how to have a normal conversation regarding the topic

>>13169 Nah just you

>>13169 you've been mindfucked by psyops lel.

>>13164 >you're convinced that pro-ukraine posting is inorganic It was partially inorganic. Do you seriously think there were no shills or bots on /k/? Or that the pro-Ukraine posters weren't emboldened to say increasingly absurd shit by the lack of pushback since anyone who disagreed with them got banned? Of course there were sincere Ukraine supporters, and while some of them may have been supporting Ukraine based upon inaccurate information, that will hopefully get fixed over time as they get exposed to more neutral information. What we're pushing back against right now is claims that 4/k/ mostly supported Ukraine, since that is impossible prove or deny for reasons already mentioned, and it really shouldn't matter. I'd personally love to get some pro-Russia /k/ommandos in the Russo-Ukraine war thread to get their perspective, since I think that could be useful in finally starting to have a decent conversation about the war, but they were probably chased away years ago. >difference is all the actual tourists and also sharty agitators that just wanted to spark shitshows are gone. We have seen a few people already who tried to act like they did on 4/k/, like >>12260. If you really are sincere about wanting to have honest discussions, I hope you'll give posts like that pushback too if you see them in the future. It shouldn't take too much, in fact I'm sure I've been overdoing it, but I really don't want the cancer to take root again.

>>13171 i love how hes just posted up in these

>>13129 Pretty much, yeah. Whenever you asked one to post funs, there was no reply.

>>13156 /k/ on 4chan was dead for a decade at this point. It was a constant circlejerk of the stupid anime vs. reality threads, rehashing of the same old tired shit ragebait political trolling (which you got banned for reporting by the way), and then when something actually interesting like a war comes along, they ban one side of the conflict. Personally I blame the trannies, and I'm not even kidding.

>>13196 I blame Jews, I'm not even kidding

>>13196 Still can't believe they didn't allow politics threads around gun control.

>>13196 >>13197 i blame both trannies and the jews frfr

>>13134 You know, what actually are the rules for being a mod around here? Do you have to have a strict schedule you're assigned to, or you pick your own times? Are you paid per hour or via some other metric? Are you paid here or was that just a 4chins thing since it was so big? I like to think I could handle being somewhat of a laissez-faire mod that only really intervenes when shit gets far out of hand (besides, banning what few people we have would kill this place), but I'm not sure what kind of times I'd be able to realistically keep between my actual job.

>>13197 I mean our friends with little hats were revealed to have been involved behind the scenes, right? I also recall that when the Israel-Palestine thing flared up, the board went a little nuts. Felt like a lot of the shills actually had some kinda internal war going on. I recall one particular post that was an AI generated trump gif and a bunch of schizo gibberish and laughter. Someone figured that it was a broken bot or something. Might've been some of the resident western lefties freaking out about their precious mudslimes, and their Israeli handlers clamping down on that. Of course the ones with actual govt backing won over the preachy antifa retards in the end, so the board became pro-Israel. Honestly I think I recall more raids for the Palestinians after that, but that may just be because those are fresher memories than the early ukie war shitfest. I guess it really doesn't matter in the end. As long as we know what to clamp down on here, there's not much point arguing about a ship that may have already sunk for good. >>13198 IIRC it was meant to be a measure to prevent any sort of /pol/ spillover. I guess they used it as a pretense to stage an occupation of their own in years past. But it was definitely a major hinderance as time went on, and just became outright hypocrisy when they opened the gates to the barbarians. That may be a more important lesson, here we should allow some political discussion about guns as long as it doesn't devolve into off-topic political discussions.

>>13204 > here we should allow some political discussion about guns as long as it doesn't devolve into off-topic political discussions. it would be nice i remember getting a 3 day ban for making a thread after my state became a constitutional carry state fuck you jannys and mods hope you get aids and i am glad you got doxxed

>>13200 >I like to think I could handle being somewhat of a laissez-faire mod that only really intervenes when shit gets far out of hand Retards will still blame you when some other janny BRs them. Other retards will be mad that content they don't like doesn't get removed. And 90% of the job is just clearing false reports anyway.

>>13208 I suspect most jannies start out thinking they'll be one of the cool ones and will only get rid of the cancer. I think it's pretty hard to keep perspective after a while.

>>13198 Oh no, they allowed it allright. For as long as it was trolling and making gun owners look stupid.

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for being at least partially responsible for /k/ going to shit. I would intentionally troll posters from the pro Russian and pro Ukrainian sides whenever they did anything particularly faggy, foreign, or off topic and then mass report their posts in the thread. Both sides' complaining about mods and jannies are probably at least partially my fault. They and soyniggers also seem to have copied my trick, making everything worse for everyone. Sorry guys.

>>13211 Even if you do keep that perspective, you will still be judged by how every other janny and mod does things. What do you consider cancer? Most people don't like the shilling from either side with Ukraine. How about combat footage from Ukraine? How about actual discussion of weapons and tactics being used there. Now how about when this shit is all tangled together in the same threads. Do you nuke the thread, killing the cancerous agendaposting, and the actual weapon discussion alike? Do you take that hands off approach and leave them both in place? Do you spend hours going through every single reply in every thread? Can you do that every day? Keep in mind you're doing it for free. Regardless of what you choose, some one is going to be mad about it, and others will be mad about what some other janny did. I'm not saying don't do it, just know what you're signing up for.

>>13225 sometimes I did the same, but mostly to ukrainefags since they were more plentiful. Its alright anon, it was the style of the time

>>13226 >I'm not saying don't do it I mean you should say that to me. I would only trust myself to become a janny for a limited time if things got really bad, like if we got raided or something. I'm patient as hell and am willing to spend my free time doing nothing but reading through every post in a thread before deleting only the shitposts, but if I did it for too long I know I'd start to lose perspective and start to be extremely uncharitable. >>13227 I think a lot of us did, my most successful one started out by accident when I asked for more info about the supposed North Korean meatwaves, and when they started accusing me of being a proofster I kept asking because it was funny.

>>13227 I supported Ukraine the whole way and wish for the US to adopt a more hawkish policy towards Russia, but whenever the same like 10 autists from the Ukrainian side showed up to try to continue their Quixotic crusade, I felt obligated to try to get them banned.

>>13229 Janny position but congress esque terms maybe at least it would limit egos and favoritism for awhile. No good solution to any of it

>>13229 >I would only trust myself to become a janny for a limited time if things got really bad You know, maybe there's an idea. I like to talk about how US police forces worked before the institution of our current metropolitan PDs about a century ago. Prior law in the US and UK was just to have a permanent core of a few leading officers, a continual force of street cops drafted from the town's citizens, and a larger posse drawn up during particularly bad times like for manhunts, bandit/indian raids, or other shit that more or less required a small army of citizens to deal with shit. I wouldn't mind at all opting in to be on a rotation for mod or even some janny duties just to see what it's like, depending on how long the tour of duty is.

>>13100 I'm still salty we never got a Battlefield 1984 cold war gone hot style game. There's Arma Reforger recently but yknow thats a different kinda thing.

>>12106 LOL IS ASH HERE NOW

>>13230 >wish for the US to adopt a more hawkish policy towards Russia oh boy anon do I have good news for you then. Because of all the aid we have given to Ukraine, we caused Russia to spin their wheels so hard that we have more or less exhausted their ability to power project as well as they used to be able to at the start of the war. Before, Russia was likely a semi-serious threat to Europe, now, not really, especially with NATO article 5 being in play, they wouldnt dare overextend and cause a direct conflict of any kind with the US, if that was even on the table before. Ukraine is probably still fucked as long as Russia wants to be there, but as far as the US vs Russia goes, this whole ordeal and the way we handled it has payed off really well in defanging Russia alot. I dont think youd be able to get this take from 4/k/ tho

>>13241 I think underestimating Russia is a bad idea, they may be bastards but they are bastards that don't stop.

>>13241 The complete 180 is still baffling to me. However the Ace Combat tier mix of equipment is quite hilarious >>13239 Some dude suggested that Dice should dabble in fictional armies

>>13239 As long as we can get some prototype/rare weapons in there ala BF1. Battlefield is arcady after all. I'd still prefer something more full retard ala secret weapons of WW2.

The gen4cide could clear the tourists off /k/. Seems worth it desu.

>>13257 They should do Command and Conquer. Imagine getting to play as Nod on the ground.

>>13269 They made this way back in 2002. Command and Conquer: Renegade

>>13257 I'm not gonna buy another Battlefield ever again but at least these guys look like soldiers for the most part as opposed to the clownshow that was 2042. Then again this is before they add the 30 dollar clown skins I guess. I'm waiting on some autist to make their own Battlefield with blackjack and hookers, but actually good as opposed to whatever the fuck World War 3 and Delta Force ended up being.

>>13279 It’s just a fan art or fan rendering. I’m not really sure which one it is of the current battlefield leak that they made so far the leak looks good. It doesn’t look like the previous ones like five I mean graphics wise it does, the combat looks OK for now, but we’ll still have to wait and see.

>>13281 Oh I'm fucking retarded. From what I remember of the leaked gameplay, the NATO troops are using like mid-2010's bong kit. No idea how the merc faction looks. By the way I fucking hate that we can't just have America or Euros vs China or Russia anymore, it's always weird merc groups or international task forces because everyone's a giant chickenshit. Give me PLA vs JSDF in the middle of Tokyo or some shit, the only game that did was World War 3 and that game died THREE times.

>>13284 bring back BF3 and BF4. i NEED op locker and metro 2012 24hr meatgrinder gamemodes

>>13285 God I miss those servers sometimes, even though both of those maps are dogshit. But they're fun dogshit like Nuketown and Shipment are for COD.

>>13284 As far as I know China is the only one who has a problem with its soldiers being depicted in Battlefield esque games. The US, any Euro country, and Russia don’t really care

>>13287 I think it gets back into why devs started using fake gun names and legally distinct models so much. COD won their Humvee lawsuit but Activision's legal team is so chickenshit about getting sued again they've even started giving AKs fake names. The rest of the industry followed suit sadly, with some exceptions. Kriss wanted to send Vectors to Infinity Ward for audio recording and scanning to put in game but they never heard back from them. Strange environment. >As far as I know China is the only one who has a problem with its soldiers being depicted in Battlefield esque games I wonder if BF4 was what made them decide 'yeah no stop depicting us in games'. They don't mind equipment being depicted, I think Shenyang actually reached out to Project Aces to put chinkplanes in Ace Combat.

>>13288 Which is odd because BF4 doesn’t paint China super negatively just mislead

>>13291 Figuring out why China does anything is an exercise in frustration sadly. I don't know if that's what did but it's just the last modern setting game to have the PLA in it.

>>13299 Didn’t one of the Call Of Duty’s have them?

>>13304 Black Ops 2 had Chinese spec ops, yeah.

I'm here, brothers.

>>12119 Saluto next alea

>>13241 >Russia was likely a semi-serious threat to Europe Mein nigger, they are failing to invade what is literally the poorest country in Europe. A bunch of dirt farming hookers. Yes, they got the backing of NATO in all but an actual armed response, but that would have happened had they chosen *any* yuroland country. They are not, were not, and now will not be a serious threat to their former satellites, let alone all of Europe. Can you imagine if instead of Ukraine, they decided to invade Finland. They likely would have gotten BTFO'd without any NATO assistance. They only thing they were good at was getting involved in African poopfights, invading irrelevant asiatic neighbors smaller than most US states (Georgia, Crimea), and appearing stronger than they really are. They were never a threat to Europe, they just got really good at fooling us into thinking they were. I know I'm saying this all in hindsight, but you also have the benefit of this perspective.

>>13279 >I'm not gonna buy another Battlefield ever again I was in the same boat after 1 (which was excellent), but i'm hearing a lot of optimism for 6. We'll have to wait and see if it's legit or just the hypekiddies getting excited for the new forknife of the year, because only literal retards buy AAA games on day 1 these days. If there's a guy in a wheelchair in frontline combat or some other wokist retard fantasy I'm not buying it.

>>13404 Had so much fun tearing shit up in a Renault FT in bf1

>>13406 Same, anytime i could snag one on Amiens and roll around blasting anything that moved with the auto cannister shells was bliss. Miss those little shits like you wouldn't believe.

>>13404 >>13406 I still don’t understand why they made the French dlc. Verdun should have been the base game and the one mission about the Harlem Hellfighters was basically a token one. I actually got interested in them and the game makes a big deal about them then does nothing with them

So more information about 4chan mods has come to light that might be /k/ related. RapeApe is probably Canadian, the half-black half-indian thing probably isn't true, and he served in Afghanistan from 2003 to 2012. He supposedly said he was light infantry at some point, and that his platoon took 25% casualties from IEDs. So RapeApe might have had more to do with shitting up /k/ than we realized. Also his email is BurlyMcChesterFlex@gmail.com, and he may have used "BurlyMcChesterflex" as a usernamename on an airsoft forum, so I bet BicepHardthrust is a RapeApe sock. https://kiwifarms.st/threads/meet-the-jannies.217347/page-9 https://kiwifarms.st/threads/4chan.37222/page-1120#post-21160598

>>12111 as far as I know, the limited userbase on /k/ (actual posters, not shills/bots) is split b/t here and the sharty. 8kun was basically dead, and i'm not aware of others. As far as I'm concerned, I don't like the sharty's wordfilters and weirdly autistic anachronisms, so I'm staying here until further notice or /k/ returns on 4chan.

the catcha here isn't total niggerAIDS so I might start posting and lurk less, plus I picked up a gun recently so i ain't a noguns no more.

>>13470 >autistic No, that website is hostile against people actually autistic, all those moving and stupid memes are revolting.

>>13472 > plus I picked up a gun recently whatdja get anon

>>12968 https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/AD0750150 funny link for ya

>>13477 The army had such an insane hardon for the artillery helicopter """concept""" it's not even funny. What caused it? Key west? Being so mad at Vietnam they couldn't see straight?

>>12672 tbh unless rapeape had ssh access + admin perms to the server and full authority to do software changes, I'd blame hiroshimoot for the code rot. Also if any of the janny applicants were stupid enough to provide doxable info to 4chan of all places, that's on them.

>>13501 You can just check the git logs if you're interested. 77% of the commits in the last few years were from desuwa. There are no commits from RapeApe or any of the names I suspect are his alts.

>>13501 >Also if any of the janny applicants You can blame the admin too for that, nil OPSEC

>>13475 >>13475 picked up a benelli nova, i'm a broke college student and 350 for the smoothest shooting pump action gun i've ever held, I couldn't say no to that.

>>13510 Hmm, I'd be interested in seeing what files he was touching. At a glance, most of his commit messages seem to be related to captcha, spam filters, and the various holiday themes. Wonder if he's just a web-dev shitter who didn't want / know how to do a proper upgrade rollout lol

>>13512 Nah, people have to cover their own ass. Plus, they oughta know how hands-off hiroshimoot was and to not expect him to do more than the bare minimum to protect them. At least, I wouldn't have expected OPSEC from him.

>>13517 He was just one dude, he probably had his hands full just trying to do something about the spam. Hiro only made 44 commits, and they're pretty much all just stuff to do with ads, adding boards, or merging branches into the master. Moot meanwhile made 1588 commits between 2012 when the git log starts and when he left.

>>13403 A lot of people liken the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the winter war, with USSR invading Finland. People thought, because of their performance in that war, that the USSR was a paper tiger and it could easily be defeated.

>>13534 It's an apt comparison, although Russia does seem to be doing a fair bit better this time than it did in the winter war.

>>12819 >We had plenty for sure but the average /k/ veteran was more than willing to post a suicide montage as bugspray by about a month into the conflict just because of how incredibly obnoxious the /pol/ tourists were in turn. you lying fucking cunt, we all know you're full of shit and your nafotroon jannies ent around to enforce your bullshit narrative.

>>13449 >I still don’t understand why they made the French dlc. Yeah that's the baffling part. The eternal Austro-Italo slapfight, while greatly appreciated, should have been the DLC. They might as well have left the Germans out if they had left the frogs out.