The UK has now implemented age verification for porn sites, and the EU has given one year to its member states to enact similar laws. https://archive.ph/fGdgx https://archive.ph/uMRel https://archive.ph/oRzux 25 U.S. states already have age verification laws, as does Australia and France, and New Zealand and Canada are considering passing them as well. South Korea bans porn entirely. But just use a VPN, right, guys?

>>9182 >https://archive.ph/fGdgx >France is the second-largest online pornography audience in the world No fucking way. I know they're infamously perverts, but the the amount of porn they consume per person can't possibly be so high as to compete with nations that have 5 to 10 times their population. >But just use a VPN, right, guys? I understand your concerns about the direction the world is heading, but there is nothing I can do about them. I'm surprised this didn't happen 20+ years ago. Given you're required to show ID to access adult stores when in meatspace, it just seems like the law was lagging behind in catching up to the internet. It's not hard to come up with a system that'll convince normalfags it's totally okay, even if it's not. They already dox themselves online regularly. Privacy oriented people are in the vast minority. Here's how it'll probably go. >You need to verify your age for age restricted online services with a real ID. Merely claiming you're 18 doesn't count. <But that would mean giving my personal info to porn sites, and I can't trust all these sites with my info! >Not to worry, citizen. You don't have to give random websites any personal information! Instead, just pop on over to this government website and enter your government ID. It will generate a unique key with no personally identifiable information on it which can then be used to access all adult websites that have adopted this verification system, which they are now legally required to. <Oh, that's not so bad. Kind of annoying, but now I don't have to click "how old are you?" and "are you 18?" on a bunch of different sites, so it's actually more convenient! Of course, the government will use this to spy on you. But you, Joe McNormalnigger, already know the government is spying on you and have stopped caring or never cared in the first place.

>>9186 >Here's how it'll probably go. Yeah, it's going to START like that. But then it will keep expanding to include things that are not legally questionable. >Oh, you want to access this website for ordering liquor? Sorry, but you need to provide your ID to do that. <Oh, you want to access this website for ordering gun parts? Sorry, but you need to provide your ID to do that. >Oh, you want to access this website for reading about political issues? Sorry, but you need to provide your ID to do that. <Oh, you want to access this website to read about science? Sorry, but you need to provide your ID to do that. >Oh, you want to access this website for getting involved in stocks? Sorry, but you need to provide your ID to do that. And it just goes on and on from there, to the point where you cannot access anything without providing an ID. And it's exactly that type of situation that cause Prohibition to be revoked. Because it began making everyone practically into a criminal. And when "everything" is illegal, nothing is and society begins to break down.

>>9186 That's my point. Everyone is saying to just use a VPN, but when we get to the point where almost every jurisdiction in the world requires age verification, VPNs won't mean anything anymore. >>9187 Absolutely. This isn't stopping with porn, everything is going to require this.

>>9183 How long is the time bomb set for? Does anyone have a BIIIIIIIIIIG whale-sized archive? >>8745 Did they fix this problem as well?

>>9189 >How long is the time bomb set for? What? What are you even saying? I explained everything in my post. 25 U.S. states, the UK, Australia, and France already have these laws in effect. New Zealand and Canada are thinking about passing them. South Korea has banned all porn sites since at least 2009. What are you confused about?

>>9189 >Did they fix this problem as well? Pretty sure. I haven't encountered it again. >How long is the time bomb set for? Negro, what are you on about? Tons of places are already implementing laws or have already implemented them. The bomb is already going off as we speak. Some places are already full of shrapnel. If you're asking about how long they have to implement these laws in the EU, it's 1 year from the announcement of the new EU guidelines, which I think were released about a month ago.

https://anime2.blog.jp/archives/37876822.html Yet another fanservice aggregate (RIP Animepantser*) is set to be gone forever due to the dearth of fanservice in general and the possible dawn of AI. Not precisely loli but there's a fair amount depending on the series covered .Even then it missed pics related but it'll suck to see it gone. Is there an easy-ish method of image scraping? *yes I know the sadpanda has a bunch of galleries but they've yet to be organized

>>8988 I hate that attitude. We're on the same fucking boat, we should care that it's not OUR part that is getting filled with water because it will eventually fuck us all.

>>9196 <no archive Man, you suck. https://archive.ph/8P297

>>9196 Hey, I was going to say that!

>>9196 At least the anime bath one is still up.

For anyone worried about vpn, the only way to be anonymous these days is connecting to a vpn > tor and disabling java on about:config, even them if you connect to a website containing google or cloudflare script even if blocked you get busted (its not limited to those 2 either), javascript is not the only way to identify a person these days windows registers every file name and its thumbnail, keylogs, read txt files, and makes a list of programs you use, not so sure if blocking every connection to microsoft related works so use one of open source os that dont call home constantly (looking at you fedora) there is a reason most of those boorus get attacked until they add trackers into them if anyone know a method to securely connect to these sites let me know

lol xD LOOOOOOOOOL anyway..

>>9304 >VPN + Tor Can be useful if adversaries are using pattern recognition to identify you. Leaves you at the mercy of your VPN provider though. How "no logs" are they really? >disable javascript Sure this is a darkweb meme at this point, if you want to break functionality of any website go ahead and disable it. It's a vulnerability that only state-level actors would be able to exploit, unless you're important to the foreign policy goals of another country and would be a target for blackmail this is overkill. >windows telemetry Use Tails then, it's disposable.

Where do you guys see the future of the current view on loli? Right now it's just extreme pedo-hysteria, and artists being harassed. I don't necessarily want people to be positive about it, maybe just thinking its weird but not caring. I feel like its ramped up in recent years coinciding with the Epstein panic. I'd like to think it's at the peak, but it could get worse if people actually start getting arrested for it, or vigilante murders, if 5 years in prison is deemed "not enough" Do you think the hysteria around the topic has peaked, or is the peak still not there yet? I thought it would be good to bring up a discussion of societies view on it, since all the discussion here is about potential/upcoming laws.

>>9337 I'm totally blackpilled, but will continue to peruse the naughty drawings by any means necessary.

>>9337 I don't know. Normal people might as well be aliens to me.

>>9337 >but it could get worse if people actually start getting arrested for it this just in, guy got arrested for it

>>9356 >Source: dude trust me This all I could find quickly, but it's from January. https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/sumter-county-man-arrested-obscene-visual-representations-child-sexual-abuse

>>9357 This could be AI. There has been some cases for realistic AI Generated stuff recently.

>>9360 I looked more into it, and found other pages of him being charged with sexual abuse/ exploitation of minor. Maybe the obscenity charge was chosen because its easier to convict or something.

>>9361 >I looked more into it, and found other pages of him being charged with sexual abuse/ exploitation of minor. Maybe the obscenity charge was chosen because its easier to convict or something. Many such cases.

>>9183 Been following this for about 2 years now. Basically Australia started this mess(I'm guessing still feuding with Elon over that church stabbing incident) and started this whole crusade on "protecting the children online" and proposed forced IDs to the UN. Their idea was outlandish too because the first thing they mentioned in this proposal was also getting around VPNs as children will be smart enough to download and purchase a VPN. I have no clue how they mean to do this but VPN's are definitively on their hit list and been a lot of articles on attacking VPN providers. This started a huge chain reaction of retarded shit going on online where the UK soon followed suit and for some reason half of America wanted to be special snowflakes and enforce their own ID checks for porn site(just the PornHub ring of sites so far which is even more dumber) last year. Germany wants to ban ad blockers, Texas banning anime, lots of sites both sfw and nonsfw are bending a knee to these forced ID checks from the UK even sites outside the UK, etc. The craziest part in all this is nobody is saying anything about this, let alone even know what's going on.

>>9363 >Texas banning anime This is not true, and has been discussed many times on this site (mainly in the GG threads on /v/). Everything else you said is correct, but you undermine your argument with false statements like this.

>>9363 >>9365 In fact, I'll explain it again, just so I can have an easy post to reference for the future. SB20 states: >A person commits an offense if the person: (1) knowingly possesses, accesses with intent to view, or promotes obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in activities described by Section 43.21(a)(1)(B), regardless of whether the depiction is an image of an actual child, a cartoon or animation, or an image created using an artificial intelligence application or other computer software. https://archive.ph/1IkOz What does Section 43.21(a)(1)(B) say? >(B) depicts or describes: (i) patently offensive representations or descriptions of ultimate sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated, including sexual intercourse, sodomy, and sexual bestiality; or (ii) patently offensive representations or descriptions of masturbation, excretory functions, sadism, masochism, lewd exhibition of the genitals, the male or female genitals in a state of sexual stimulation or arousal, covered male genitals in a discernibly turgid state or a device designed and marketed as useful primarily for stimulation of the human genital organs. https://archive.ph/mkIr8 So, does the overwhelming majority of ecchi anime contain content that would break this law? No. This basically bans hentai (or ecchi that is extremely borderline) with underage characters. Is it a retarded law? Absolutely. But did Texas just "ban anime?" No, not at all. >>8748 >The Texan bill technically makes things like Evangelion illegal Just to make it perfectly clear, this statement is completely false.

>>9365 >This is not true, and has been discussed many times on this site (mainly in the GG threads on /v/). >Everything else you said is correct, but you undermine your argument with false statements like this. It's an oversimplification of what's happening, but it's not entirely false for him to say Texas is banning anime when the law as written, technically outlaws some non-hentai anime, like Ishizoku Reviewers to make the easiest possible example. He just didn't specify "all" or "some", which could be interpreted as intentional sensationalism, but the phrase "banning anime" would be interpreted by common sense to mean some anime rather than all, because then you have to wrap your head around why the hell they'd have a blanket ban on it instead of some fringe shit they don't like which the much likelier scenario. >Just to make it perfectly clear, this statement is completely false. I don't think a teenager masturbating to another comatose teenager would fly if questioned in a court of law under these stipulations, just because it wasn't explicit. I doubt the law would go after it in the first place, since it wouldn't look good to ban a massively popular property, but it can easily be argued to >promote obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in patently offensive representations or descriptions of masturbation Sure, it might have "meaning and purpose in the story" or some shit, but you're trying to convince people in court of this, not weeaboos that have seen much worse without flinching.

>>9368 And let me phrase it another way. The way this law is worded, anything that wouldn't fly in a modern live action show wouldn't fly in anime. So showing an underage teenager with (potentially fake) cum on his hand and the bare chest of an underage teenage girl in the background would land you jail time immediately. >inb4 Cuties Pretty sure that didn't have explicit underage breasts. Not to mention I bet everyone who worked on that is probably under the protection of certain people who can get away with things normal people can't

>>9368 >I don't think a teenager masturbating to another comatose teenager would fly if questioned in a court of law under these stipulations, just because it wasn't explicit. I doubt the law would go after it in the first place, since it wouldn't look good to ban a massively popular property, but it can easily be argued to >Sure, it might have "meaning and purpose in the story" or some shit, but you're trying to convince people in court of this, not weeaboos that have seen much worse without flinching. True. I didn't consider a scene like this. I concede that this would be problematic. >>9369 >So showing an underage teenager with (potentially fake) cum on his hand and the bare chest of an underage teenage girl in the background would land you jail time immediately. >inb4 Cuties >Pretty sure that didn't have explicit underage breasts. It's worth noting that bare breasts are not illegal under this specific statute. In fact, in most U.S. jurisdictions (including federal law), it's not considered chïld pornography to begin with. You're right about the cum part, though.

>>9370 >>9371 >>9372 >>9373 >Hit with the global filter twice >Then noticed a typo on the third attempt Wew laddy.

>>9374 My kingdom for an edit button.

>>9365 >>9366 Since you seem to know what you're talking about here, I'd like to ask; would you say classic or Vita-style Japanese moe ecchi console games, like say, Senran Kagura, Dungeon Travelers or pre-2020 Compile Heart games, as was relatively common before the great Sonypocalypse of 2018, would fall under this law?

>>9390 Probably not, but it would depend on the context. I don't see something like Senran Kagura ever being effected.

>>9403 Well, 4/v/ is making it out like every single Japanese game with even mild ecchi got banned. I'd really hate to see America become the new Australia or UK, these games have historically faced few restrictions here and the ESRB is pretty much as impartial as you can get from a rating board. Alas, I suppose it doesn't matter that much because this pseudo-genre of games is already on death's door due to escalating platform restrictions and it's unlikely we'll get anything like the Vita age again unless Sony/Valve/Nintendo get slapped by legislation or a lawsuit over their constant censorship. Seriously, how long do we have to put up with them just being able to pull the rug out from your release with no warning and not even reimburse you? It reeks of pure maliciousness.

>>9408 In short...?

>>9414 How much shorter am I supposed to make it?