>>9361 >I looked more into it, and found other pages of him being charged with sexual abuse/ exploitation of minor. Maybe the obscenity charge was chosen because its easier to convict or something. Many such cases.

>>9183 Been following this for about 2 years now. Basically Australia started this mess(I'm guessing still feuding with Elon over that church stabbing incident) and started this whole crusade on "protecting the children online" and proposed forced IDs to the UN. Their idea was outlandish too because the first thing they mentioned in this proposal was also getting around VPNs as children will be smart enough to download and purchase a VPN. I have no clue how they mean to do this but VPN's are definitively on their hit list and been a lot of articles on attacking VPN providers. This started a huge chain reaction of retarded shit going on online where the UK soon followed suit and for some reason half of America wanted to be special snowflakes and enforce their own ID checks for porn site(just the PornHub ring of sites so far which is even more dumber) last year. Germany wants to ban ad blockers, Texas banning anime, lots of sites both sfw and nonsfw are bending a knee to these forced ID checks from the UK even sites outside the UK, etc. The craziest part in all this is nobody is saying anything about this, let alone even know what's going on.

>>9363 >Texas banning anime This is not true, and has been discussed many times on this site (mainly in the GG threads on /v/). Everything else you said is correct, but you undermine your argument with false statements like this.

>>9363 >>9365 In fact, I'll explain it again, just so I can have an easy post to reference for the future. SB20 states: >A person commits an offense if the person: (1) knowingly possesses, accesses with intent to view, or promotes obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in activities described by Section 43.21(a)(1)(B), regardless of whether the depiction is an image of an actual child, a cartoon or animation, or an image created using an artificial intelligence application or other computer software. https://archive.ph/1IkOz What does Section 43.21(a)(1)(B) say? >(B) depicts or describes: (i) patently offensive representations or descriptions of ultimate sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated, including sexual intercourse, sodomy, and sexual bestiality; or (ii) patently offensive representations or descriptions of masturbation, excretory functions, sadism, masochism, lewd exhibition of the genitals, the male or female genitals in a state of sexual stimulation or arousal, covered male genitals in a discernibly turgid state or a device designed and marketed as useful primarily for stimulation of the human genital organs. https://archive.ph/mkIr8 So, does the overwhelming majority of ecchi anime contain content that would break this law? No. This basically bans hentai (or ecchi that is extremely borderline) with underage characters. Is it a retarded law? Absolutely. But did Texas just "ban anime?" No, not at all. >>8748 >The Texan bill technically makes things like Evangelion illegal Just to make it perfectly clear, this statement is completely false.

>>9365 >This is not true, and has been discussed many times on this site (mainly in the GG threads on /v/). >Everything else you said is correct, but you undermine your argument with false statements like this. It's an oversimplification of what's happening, but it's not entirely false for him to say Texas is banning anime when the law as written, technically outlaws some non-hentai anime, like Ishizoku Reviewers to make the easiest possible example. He just didn't specify "all" or "some", which could be interpreted as intentional sensationalism, but the phrase "banning anime" would be interpreted by common sense to mean some anime rather than all, because then you have to wrap your head around why the hell they'd have a blanket ban on it instead of some fringe shit they don't like which the much likelier scenario. >Just to make it perfectly clear, this statement is completely false. I don't think a teenager masturbating to another comatose teenager would fly if questioned in a court of law under these stipulations, just because it wasn't explicit. I doubt the law would go after it in the first place, since it wouldn't look good to ban a massively popular property, but it can easily be argued to >promote obscene visual material containing a depiction that appears to be of a child younger than 18 years of age engaging in patently offensive representations or descriptions of masturbation Sure, it might have "meaning and purpose in the story" or some shit, but you're trying to convince people in court of this, not weeaboos that have seen much worse without flinching.

>>9368 And let me phrase it another way. The way this law is worded, anything that wouldn't fly in a modern live action show wouldn't fly in anime. So showing an underage teenager with (potentially fake) cum on his hand and the bare chest of an underage teenage girl in the background would land you jail time immediately. >inb4 Cuties Pretty sure that didn't have explicit underage breasts. Not to mention I bet everyone who worked on that is probably under the protection of certain people who can get away with things normal people can't

>>9368 >I don't think a teenager masturbating to another comatose teenager would fly if questioned in a court of law under these stipulations, just because it wasn't explicit. I doubt the law would go after it in the first place, since it wouldn't look good to ban a massively popular property, but it can easily be argued to >Sure, it might have "meaning and purpose in the story" or some shit, but you're trying to convince people in court of this, not weeaboos that have seen much worse without flinching. True. I didn't consider a scene like this. I concede that this would be problematic. >>9369 >So showing an underage teenager with (potentially fake) cum on his hand and the bare chest of an underage teenage girl in the background would land you jail time immediately. >inb4 Cuties >Pretty sure that didn't have explicit underage breasts. It's worth noting that bare breasts are not illegal under this specific statute. In fact, in most U.S. jurisdictions (including federal law), it's not considered chïld pornography to begin with. You're right about the cum part, though.

>>9370 >>9371 >>9372 >>9373 >Hit with the global filter twice >Then noticed a typo on the third attempt Wew laddy.

>>9374 My kingdom for an edit button.

>>9365 >>9366 Since you seem to know what you're talking about here, I'd like to ask; would you say classic or Vita-style Japanese moe ecchi console games, like say, Senran Kagura, Dungeon Travelers or pre-2020 Compile Heart games, as was relatively common before the great Sonypocalypse of 2018, would fall under this law?

>>9390 Probably not, but it would depend on the context. I don't see something like Senran Kagura ever being effected.

>>9403 Well, 4/v/ is making it out like every single Japanese game with even mild ecchi got banned. I'd really hate to see America become the new Australia or UK, these games have historically faced few restrictions here and the ESRB is pretty much as impartial as you can get from a rating board. Alas, I suppose it doesn't matter that much because this pseudo-genre of games is already on death's door due to escalating platform restrictions and it's unlikely we'll get anything like the Vita age again unless Sony/Valve/Nintendo get slapped by legislation or a lawsuit over their constant censorship. Seriously, how long do we have to put up with them just being able to pull the rug out from your release with no warning and not even reimburse you? It reeks of pure maliciousness.

>>9408 In short...?

>>9414 How much shorter am I supposed to make it?

>>9416 Explain it like I care about Internet censorship in America and don't need to use the Wayback Machine for porn and hentai all the time.

>>9408 >Well, 4/v/ is making it out like every single Japanese game with even mild ecchi got banned. They're idiots. Unless it violates Section 43.21(a)(1)(B), it isn't banned. Even if the games being mentioned showed uncensored nipples, they wouldn't be banned. Moreover, this is one state in a country of 50 states.

Latest crashout coming from rev and the reason: japanese TV doesn't want to show 16 year old nipples

>>9440 >Latest crashout Yay, latest zoomer slang just dropped, ong ong fr fr no cap.

>>9440 Also, Marin isn't a loli. Wake me up when they're bitching about Juju.

>>9440 I mean, it is retarded. For one, 16 is the AoC in Japan, so what's the problem there? For two, as others pointed out, Mahoako had no problem showing nipples. Yeah, it mainly aired on late-night stations, but so did My Dress Up Darling. For three, this isn't just a MDuD problem. Anime adaptations of manga have been getting censored left and right. Even adaptations of outright ecchi aren't safe, see the whole fiasco with 2.5D Seduction. There is definitely a trend of censoring anime of any "provocative" content nowadays, not just nipples, and I don't think broadcasting standards are fully to blame here. Hate to say it, but I definitely think it has to do with anime going global and thus getting chopped down for "global standards" (read: western neoliberal progressive norms). This is also the likely reason why loli fanservice is virtually nonexistent in anime now. Whenever a manga with loli fanservice scenes or risque outfits gets adapted to anime, you can bet your ass it'll be the first thing that gets censored. Even Mahoako, the golden child of modern ecchi anime, shies away from lewding Nero Alice very much. You can't deny that modern anime is massively censored and neutered compared to what it was a decade ago let alone two. It is virtually impossible to imagine anyone attempting even something like Ro-Kyu-Bu now let alone Kodomo no Jikan.

>>9444 >"global standards" (read: western neoliberal progressive norms) I've seen something in quotes followed by the word "read" in parenthesis a lot of times since freaking 2016, WHAT THE HELL'S IT MEAN?

>>9446 And also... >>9425

>>9444 >I mean, it is retarded. For one, 16 is the AoC in Japan If you want to bring up AoC, you can't consent to porno in Japan until you're 18. Not that that's a real argument for banning fictional nipples. >>9446 Use context clues, retard.

>>9446 replace "read:" with "that meaning" or "aka" and maybe it'll help >"global standards" (read: western neoliberal faggotry) <"global standards" (that being western neoliberal faggotry) You're welcome, "friend" (read: fag)

>>9502 Ha ha; now back to the previous question... Am I going to have to use a VPN and/or the Wayback Machine in the future? Because...

>>9444 >Hate to say it, but I definitely think it has to do with anime going global and thus getting chopped down for "global standards" It was this and has been this for years now, but the problem is worse and more multi-faceted than just this. This is going to be long so bear with me. First, almost all anime is now made available on various streaming platforms, as you pointed out. If any of these services are on the production committee for that anime or the committee wants the anime on that platform, they can directly interfere with it. For example, if producers want bilibili to pay for streaming rights for a series, they may demand the show is made with China's draconian censorship standards in mind so the bilibili broadcast version doesn't have to be further censored. Second, self-censorship by staff themselves is also rampant. Many nowadays don't see any harm or even active good in censoring without being asked, simply to shield themselves from potential issues. Or worse because they have an agenda. I just recently saw an interview with the anime scriptwriter for the Bocchi the Rock adaptation here: https://kai-you.net/article/93374/page/2 Highlights of what she says include how "sexualization of minors in official work is a problem" and "we decided to eliminate 'noise' such as unnecessary fanservice in order to ensure the anime would be more popular" "whether or not I could show it to my own child is an important standard for me", etc. She bases all these arguments on the idea that because anime is now easily available on streams, it's accessibility demands 'zoning' for audiences as anyone could see it. Third, there's simply less money entering the industry from enthusiasts. Many otaku have stopped buying anime goods in favor of spending more money on gacha/soshage properties, vtubers, etc. The 'carry an anime on disc sales' model popular in the 2000s is essentially dead. Mostly because of streaming but it's also because the potential consumer base has changed. At the same time, there's far more money entering from both overseas and casual domestic viewers because of widespread availability. I don't need to say any more about the sensibilities of Western audiences, everyone here knows how much of a cancer such people are already. What all this together means is an "ecchi ghetto" where a small minority of works are allowed to be more extreme while everything else is heavily sanitized. Gone are the days where restrictions were lax just because of shows airing on a night-time slot. This line drawn between works for a wide audience and niche will inevitably given all internal+external factors pressing the industry result in more and more shows trying to stay 'widely appealing' and drain more money and talent from niche projects until eventually there's nothing left. I find it unlikely the anime industry will maintain any idiosyncracies that made it deeply appealing for much longer.

>>9503 Yes, but likely there will be a push within a few years to either make VPN usage illegal outside enterprise use, or mandate government backdoors. The UK is probably going to experiment with this very very soon given the age verification drama going on over there, and anything they do is just a testing ground for the rest of the world: every other government is salivating at the prospect of copycatting actions shithole countries like that are taking to deprive their citizens of civil liberties. I also think there will be pushes soon to remove 'problematic' content from archive.org and similar projects.

By the way, the Texas bill scare about loli has actually produced some kind of tangible harm already: JAST (that publisher of eroge and other VNs along with occasionally things like manga) was banned from running a booth at a San Antonio convention: https://x.com/jastusa/status/1961855148655042739 The irony is JAST doesn't even touch that much loli stuff (although they did just put out an uncensored release of Onii-chan Asa made Zutto Gyutte Shite), so clearly there's fear R-18 2D content is going to come under fire in the US in a much broader sense than just controversial subsets like loli.

>>9512 So anime is going the way of Hollywood and the rest of the western film industry where everything is produced for the lowest common denominator instead of dedicated niches (with a likely macro dose of pozz on top of it because gotta reinforce the state ideology). Great. >What all this together means is an "ecchi ghetto" where a small minority of works are allowed to be more extreme while everything else is heavily sanitized. Gone are the days where restrictions were lax just because of shows airing on a night-time slot. This line drawn between works for a wide audience and niche will inevitably given all internal+external factors pressing the industry result in more and more shows trying to stay 'widely appealing' and drain more money and talent from niche projects until eventually there's nothing left. I can attest this has already happened across the video game industry since 2018 at the latest. Ecchi is almost entirely reserved for mobile skinner box slot machines now. And the few legacy otaku-oriented developers left, their output is getting worse and worse. Like, just look at the absolute state of Compile Heart today compared to what they were in 2017. It's fucking depressing to see. I think they're very veering close to bankruptcy now. All of their recent games have performed extremely poorly. To an extent, it's deserved, they're even more gimmicky and janky than what they put out during the Vita era, on top of being completely neutered, but you can tell it's at least partly because they don't have the budget or talent that they used to before Sony came down on them. Fun, A/AA-budget level otaku projects like Senran Kagura and Gal*Gun are virtually unthinkable in today's industry. Even qureate got a lucky break with Bunny Garden getting shilled by VTubers, but look how badly their newest game is getting butchered on Switch. At least it's untouched on Steam, but even then, Steam is the reason they don't do lolis or petites any more after the Duel Princess fiasco.

>>9654 >Duel Princess fiasco

>>9655 The only qureate game that got banned from Steam, and the last one with lolis/petite girls, so clearly qureate got the memo. Also got pulled from the Switch store globally a couple weeks later under "mysterious circumstances". This was back in 2022, and Seven Pirates, an arguably even more risque game that also has lolis and flatties, released completely uncensored only a couple months later, so no one knows exactly why Nintendo pulled it. But it's clear that Duel Princess's deplatforming taught qureate a hard lesson. They ended up later releasing it on a bunch of alternative storefronts including even fucking Epic Game Store (extremely rare Timmy W), but evidently, and not surprisingly, those didn't make up for the loss of Switch/Steam sales.

https://xcancel.com/mainichiphoto/status/1974352634154029087 sanae takaichi just like shigeru ishiba before her is on record wanting fiction censored especially anime/manga/etc with sexualized under 18 characters. I believe this may finally be the end. We just got Shoujo Ramune back and now it's possible we won't get ep7 with komako.

>>9736 >We just got Shoujo Ramune back Quality was ass though. Full length animated hentai in general is just dead. >Direct linking

>>9736 >I believe this may finally be the end There's still a very long road ahead. I also edited you link, and here's an auto-translation of the post, >The final round of voting for the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) presidential election has been held, with former Minister of Economic Security Sanae Takaichi elected as the new president.

>>9736 >sanae takaichi just like shigeru ishiba before her is on record wanting fiction censored especially anime/manga/etc with sexualized under 18 characters Cou7ld you provide a source for that?

>>9737 >Full length animated hentai in general is just dead. Dead as in 2012 dead, Adobe Flash Player dead, or dodo dead?