Miraculously its not the worst thing IGN has produced, though there's still some random dogshit in there, and too much pandering to retards. All the descriptions are soulless and bot-tier, I would not be surprised if this was just made by a web-crawler or some kind of aggregator. Their video even sounds like it used a bot narrator, fucking horrible. My top 10 in no order would probably be >Gurren Lagann >Shimoneta >Konosuba >Code Geass >Hellsing Ultimate >Hunter x Hunter 2011 >Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood >One Piece >Hajime no Ippo and a toss-up between a bunch of anime like GTO, Yakitate, Kaiji, etc. Since 10 is too small a number of anime to choose from, especially for an entire goddamn medium, even if it is one without that much in terms of volume.

>>1512 >Gurren Lagann >Shimoneta nice >Konosuba you're being too soft >Hajime no Ippo at last I agree whole heartedly Agreed, 10 is too small. Better say top 10 in a specific genre or requirement,

>>1512 All excellent picks. I'd probably also add in either Initial D because of how fun it was, or Berserk for obvious reasons.

>>1508 >HxH and One Piece that high I like them both but come the fuck on

>>1908 You're right, One Piece isn't high enough.

>>1908 >>1912 The anime isn't even good. The manga is a strong contender, especially for shonen, but the anime is full of filler, padding, and animation errors. That's not even mentioning the lazy, cheap art style it switched to years ago. These lists are retarded. Full Metal Alchemist over Cowboy Bebop? I didn't even like Cowboy Bebop and that's a brain damaged opinion.

>>1915 >One Piece >filler What. One Piece has one of the least amounts of filler ever seen for a big shounen anime. What people complain about are the slow pacing of the episodes, but the filler is comparatively nonexistent to the others. I've also seen what people consider padding, and its really not a big deal honestly. You know how you deal with filler and padding in One Piece? You skip them. Most of the padding is in the form of long recaps, which you just skip over by the first 3-6 minutes. The little filler there is is able to be skipped with ease, takes like 2 seconds per episode. I watched pretty much the whole thing, minus filler episodes, last year and in 2021. I stopped close to the mid-900's to give it time to finish Wano up. >animation errors For a 1000+ episode anime, there's bound to be animation errors, I really don't think it merits taking it off the list. People in the west are a bunch of faggots when it comes to One Piece's anime. I've seen that One Pace project, and I used it for Thriller Bark because I heard the arc was shit, but their """solution""" was to literally cut frames out of the animation to make it "in-line" with the manga, and even cut out funny original parts of the anime. At that point its just better to read the manga since you'd have to be fucking retarded to do something like that, why watch anime if you don't even like it? When I saw what they cut out after the fact, I was fucking furious and regretted doing that immensely. >lazy and cheap anon, One Piece always had a pretty cheap artstyle. It had literally no shading most of the time from the start, it was largely all flat coloring. If anything they increased the budget for it and allowed shading sometime in it, I believe it was around either Marineford or the Merman Island arc; at the very least I remember Dressrosa allowing shading because all the women's tits looked better with shading, especially Rebecca's. Regardless, the artstyle of the original work doesn't exactly lend itself to something with an overly high budget. If you're talking lineart, yes, there is indeed a decline in arcs like Water 7 compared to the early arcs of One Piece, but it eventually compensates in other ways for it. Toei isn't great obviously, but there is still way too much good in One Piece's anime to discount it in my opinion. One Piece's anime had excellent voice actors, solid music, great comedy, fun action, tearjerking scenes with powerful themes overall through an utterly unique adventure and is an overall very respectable adaptation of one of the best manga of all time. >Cowboy Bebop <"I didn't even like it but c'mon" Anon, you are literally being the vanguard for a circlejerk right now. I don't like Cowboy Bebop myself, so why the fuck would I include it unless it really warranted respect? The Japs did not like it nearly as much as (some) westerners did, it was not very influential to their circle or to anime as a whole except in the western fanbase as a gateway anime. I watched all of it plus the movie around 3 years ago to see what all the hype was about and hoped it would be some masterpiece, instead I got one of the most disappointing experiences I've had in anime. An episodic anime is very difficult to ever be a masterpiece. Its got some pretty good animation, decent music, a great dub, and Faye has a high-tier waifu design, but its not one of the GOATs by far. You need something truly special to be one of the best. A lot of the unique aspects of it are actually detriments to it. Why would you want an episodic anime that's trying to be serious (unless you're watching for cheap entertainment)? There's no overarching plot or story consistency? Instead its largely a depressing formula, save for the extremely few episodes where plot-related things happen, and they're unpleasant. Most anime aren't nihilistic either, and that's probably for the best. The reason people rate it so highly among so many general demographics here are 1. gateway anime for 90s kids and early 2000s teens 2. its got a seemingly "cool" character in Spike Spiegel who many people don't realize lives a miserable life, and instead they watched it as teenagers and believed that "I want to be that depressed, jaded, heavy alcoholic, constantly smoking guy with no actual friends and who wants to die" 3. Its superficial qualities are solid enough to catch interest among the western general audience (who also lacked access to most anime period so among limited choices, it seems better than it is) 4. Again, great dub 5. Feels like a tryhard "mature" anime so the critics can jerk it off too But underneath its surface, its not very strong at all, and the themes are actually not anything good in my opinion. Compare this to Fullmetal Alchemist 03 and Brotherhood, the latter of which has a ton of good themes (the former is kind of the yin to Brotherhood's yang, but it has some scenes it handles even more poignantly), and its unique attributes are surprising. The reason that Brotherhood is universally beloved in the west is very different from Cowboy Bebop. People were touched by Ed and Al's relationship, the events of the anime, the hopeful themes combating against the cynical themes (i.e. "what really makes up a human", etc. ), the intrigue and conspiracy, the fact that it did not conform to battle shounen tropes at all (i.e. no tournament arcs, no random powerups or insane bullshit, heavily grounded, lack of screaming, etc.), the unusual setting and context of alchemy, the powerful emotional scenes, good character development, the fact that it also had a great dub as well, on top of handling an "epic" setting and story within only 64 episodes enough to enrapture people the whole time, which is practically unheard of compared to pretty much all the big shounen. It also did well on the superficial aspects with good music, and solid animation. Its one of the very few anime which tackles the theme of brotherhood in a very good way and in an "epic" setting, the only one I've seen which handles it better is Gurren Lagann. Brotherhood also has one of the best ending arcs in shounen history. A 16 episode thrill ride that doesn't stop until the end and culminates beautifully. Keep in mind I have no nostalgic attachments to any of these anime (besides maybe One Piece, which wasn't one of my favorites as a kid but I still read and enjoyed the manga back then, not even the anime), I watched them all within the last few years and those are my thoughts on them. I can tell you most anything that happens in Fullmetal Alchemist and Brotherhood and One Piece and my favorite portions of them, but I can barely remember much at all from Cowboy Bebop.

>>1927 I'll preface this by saying that I stopped watching the One Piece anime during Enies Lobby. I understand they cut back on explicit filler content around the same time due to backlash from the extended flashback segment in the middle of the arc, but from what I have seen of newer episodes, they are padded heavily so no episodes take up more than a chapter of content. This is, however, another form of filler. Holding on a scene for twice the time you should is filler the same as writing an extra arc. If anything, it's a lazier form of a filler. At least filler arcs can be skipped if you wait. Bad pacing is forever. >One Pace Since you mentioned it, I tried a few of these and they certainly aren't a clean fix. I agree that cutting out little gags and small bits the anime adds isn't wise, but I do think their overall goal is on track. The fact is, arcs now are 1.5-2x as long as they should be in terms of episode count. >or a 1000+ episode anime, there's bound to be animation errors, I really don't think it merits taking it off the list. That's the problem: there's 500 episodes worth of content. And yeah, I don't expect flawless animation. My issue is that the animation got cheaper and had more problems the longer it went on, even as the series became more popular. It's a cash cow for Toei and yet it seems like they operate on a shoestring budget. >anon, One Piece always had a pretty cheap artstyle. I literally prefer the episodes from the 90's. They have a much better feel to them. The lines are sloppy and off-model in newer episodes pretty consistently. It just doesn't feel like One Piece anymore. Oda's art has changed too (and not for the better; the art style worked better with greater simplicity) but the anime diverged in its own direction. >One Piece's anime had excellent voice actors, solid music, great comedy, fun action, tearjerking scenes with powerful themes overall through an utterly unique adventure and is an overall very respectable adaptation of one of the best manga of all time. It does have excellent voice acting. The music is good (although most of the tracks are recycled movie music; RIP the original score) and I'm still a fan of the overall plot (at least through the timeskip), I just think that the anime is a poor adaptation that is marred by decisions made with short-term thinking. They chose to cut ending themes, they chose to water down the animation, they chose to recycle music instead of continually bringing in the same guys to add new score and establish proper motifs. I don't think it's a bad product made by talentless hacks, I think it's a rushed product that could have been something better if given the investment. The manga is simply better. It has all the moments the anime has, but with better pacing and more consistent art. I do think Oda is fumbling the plot a bit lately, which is really a downer. I'd have liked a few more sagas to round things out, too. But I think he's tired and has burned himself out by committing to this epic story. >Cowboy Bebop and FMA >Brotherhood also has one of the best ending arcs in shounen history. You're high, right? I liked FMA but the ending was literal garbage. Wasted like 60 episodes of build up for a shitty villain. I think the worldbuilding was great and I really enjoyed the overall adventure but the central plot was a downer. The series was held up by avoiding the central conflict and then collapsed the moment it had to resolve things. Overall, I think it still has its merits, and it at least didn't overstay its welcome, but man I would have loved a more competent villain. I don't have much else to say about Cowboy Bebop. I liked Outlaw Star better. I had a lot of people insist I must like Cowboy Bebop because it's "like Firefly", but it just never hooked me. I don't think it's a bad show, I just think there's better sci-fi anime. >nostalgia I'm fairly nostalgic for One Piece myself. It was my first anime I watched in Japanese and I was fairly young when I started. But I won't let me nostalgia for it blind me to the problems with the series now, especially the anime. Likewise, while I watched most of these series over a decade ago, I wasn't really new to anime then. My thoughts are them are only mildly nostalgic, and not rooted in childhood exploration.

>>1968 >I had a lot of people insist I must like Cowboy Bebop because it's "like Firefly" Well those people are fucking stupid because Firefly was a shitty show.

>>1970 Well now you're just flamebaiting.

>>1968 >focuses only on the main villain of FMA >not the culmination of literally every machination in the series up until those episodes exploding in a satisfying and thrilling way So the mystery and inner conflict of Hohenheim's actions and identity being resolved in a grand way through his answer to the colossal alchemy circle (which was being constructed throughout the entire region's history, including the Ishvallan war of extermination), the conflict and resolution between father and sons with Ed and Hohenheim, Greed's coming to terms to himself within that fight, Scar's redemption through his conflicts (and the involvement of the Isvhallans), the fact that essentially an all-out war (with the brigades of the North going against Central) mixed with a coup based on a false flag (Which ended up backfiring) wasn't enough to be a good conclusion? The fact that Father seemingly won at the end and was seemingly on the edge of becoming god (in terms of raw power), along with everyone's souls being stolen away? All the fights against the homunculi? The fact that an immortal army was being created in secret by the Central military using people's souls? The fact that nearly all of the FMA cast was involved in some way in the ending conflict without undermining the pacing while still being satisfying and intense? Mustang finally encountering Envy, realizing he was who killed Hughes, and nearly going over the edge in rage? Pride and Bradley's fights and roles within said endings, and their defeats? Do you not remember all of this shit? It was absolutely insane. Father could've been better, sure, but he was fine for what he was. He probably wasn't one of the best villains in anime, but everything surrounding the events and individual stories of FMA in the end are what are insane. He was fine for what he was: a hubristic, self-serving and arrogant creation who sought to feel greater than his creators by focusing on superficial similarities and knowledge and "exceeding" them through his false creations and impressions, believing himself to be better for it as a result, rather than aiming to understand the underlying humanity beneath what he was imitating, and paying the ultimate price for it. He's respectable enough as a villain. >I literally prefer the episodes from the 90's. One Piece's anime was only starting to be made in the last 2 months of 1999. Enies lobby in terms of lineart was a definite downgrade from the early arcs, I'll agree there. However, the early stories of One Piece compared to Enies Lobby are night and day in terms of quality. Arlong Park is when One Piece really started to get quite good, (Usopp, Sanji and Zoro before were good, but Arlong is by far the best early arc). >he didn't finish Enies Lobby in the anime Why? I understand if you prefer the manga but if you were already watching Enies Lobby, what was the problem? They introduced one of the best tracks in the anime in that arc, Franky's theme, which was used very well numerous times throughout. >Holding on a scene for twice the time you should is filler the same as writing an extra arc. I disagree, slow pacing is not the same thing as filler. Filler is non-canon content, almost always in the form of entire original episodes, usually created whole cloth to hold people over until the manga can catch up and get some distance (otherwise just for comedy or fanservice). Padding, like recaps, flashbacks and whatnot, is not really filler. That is more just repeating the canon content which already happened, which is a different problem, but one that is easily remedied by just skipping over it. If you're referring to interspersed non-canon content within the anime between canon content (i.e. within the same episode), that's a fine criticism, but I don't remember seeing much of that. One Piece is far less egregious in that department than, say, DBZ for example for that kind of issue because DBZ created minutes long scenes of things that didn't happen and fucked up the pacing of things like fights and whatnot, a very notable example being when Goku first goes SSJ against Frieza. Regardless, I'll just agree to disagree on the One Piece anime I guess. I enjoyed it immensely and the flaws to me are essentially largely tertiary and tangential to the anime itself.

>>1973 Cowboy Bebop is better than Firefly. Firefly was a prototype for the faggot shit that infests every western TV series nowadays. Cowboy Bebop may have been mediocre overall despite the good art style but at least it didn't inspire a whole bunch of obnoxious fag enabling and womyn better at everyfing horseshit.

>>2021 Cowboy Bebop had a lot of diversity and even a trans character. Glass Houses, etc...

>>2028 Cowboy bebop was good because of the diversity :^)

Apparently watchmojo released a list of their own top 100 of "greatest anime of all time" and somehow, miraculously, its not bad. Not worth watching all that shit so here's a timestamped comment. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=W1YkaEwfGRE I've seen a lot worse, its better than the IGN list by far.

>>2225 Well, minus putting DB that high up I guess, I can understand the legacy and all and if one includes the original dragon ball, but still that's a bit ridiculous.

>>2225 Many of those shows arent even that old, yet are considered greatest of all time. This is why i dont take any of these lists seriously.

>>2230 Oldness itself doesn't have much bearing on a show's quality. Most of the old shows typically have some very glaring flaws (extremely campy, unimpressive music, very episodic (which is bad for anything which pretends to have a story), mediocre concepts, undeveloped storytelling ability, ugly artstyles, etc.) You aren't gonna be watching the old Astro Boy any time soon for example, unless you're some tryhard animation fan who wants to see the history of the medium, rather than enjoying a show for its own merits.

I havent seen nearly enough anime to call myself an anime enthusiast but I would maintain that the best anime I've ever watched to completion includes >Cardcaptor Sakura (Romcom/Cute) >Cowboy Bebop (Action) >Nichijou/Azumanga Daioh (Comedy) With an honorable mention for Himechan no Ribbon, Slayers, and the anime adaptations of beloved visual novels, which I don't include because the visual novels will ALWAYS be superior (Clannad, Steins;gate, Fate, etc)

It's kind of hard to say for me because my top 10 would probably all be OVAs. Hell my top 20 would probably be.

>>2235 Why, and what are they?

>>2231 "Greatest shows of all time" dont just came out, they lack the ability to stand the test of time that many other actual greatest must endure so they can be "of all time".

>>2238 Not necessarily, if a show is the best show to ever come out in its genre and exceeds the past greats before it, it pretty much cements its place in the greatest of all time.

Apparently Cucktaco did one of these very recently for the last decade. Laugh at their shit taste. https://archive.is/tehGR List: 30. Kakegurui 29. Yuri on Ice 28. Re:Zero 27. My Hero Academia 26. Violet Evergarden 25. Kill La Kill 24. Space Dandy 23. Erased 22. Haikyu!! 21. The Promised Neverland 20. Assassination Classroom 19. KonoSuba: God’s Blessing on This Wonderful World! 18. Summer Time Rendering 17. Golden Kamuy 16. Chainsaw Man 15. Odd Taxi 14. Ranking of Kings 13. Spy x Family 12. Bocchi the Rock! 11. One Punch Man 10. Demon Slayer 9. Jujutsu Kaisen 8. Blue Period 7. Beastars 6. Jobless Reincarnation 5. Vinland Saga 4. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners 3. Attack on Titan 2. Kaguya-sama Love Is War 1. Mob Psycho 100

>>2225 That's a lot of garbage

>>2816 what would you most remove and replace with on the list?

>>1508 >Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Can we please stop pretending this was anything more than average. I know it's easy newfag bait, but it really wasn't that good compared to other battle anime you can find, even ignoring how rushed the opening 10 episodes are and how phoned in most of its deeper ideas relating to racism end up being (maybe don't comment upon "How do we grow from genociding a whole race" if you don't feel like offering a real answer). >Cowboy Bebop Another newfag anime, which I guess some p[eople like but I didn't. I find most anime space westerns to be rather shallow outside of Xabungle and Gundam X (if you even want to consider that a Western), and Cowboy Bebop seems like it gets by on Toonami nostalgia these days. >One Piece One Piece's pacing is absolutely atrocious, so the anime clearly isn't best anything, but the obvious point is that they're referring to the manga. Sure, I guess, it's a global phenomenon. >Monster Fine. The anime adaptation is too fucking long and also has pacing issues, but people love it anyways. >Hajime no Ippo Ashita no Joe and Ring ni Kakero were better. >Mob Psycho 100 Yeah, sure. >Hunter x Hunter The 2011 anime sucked absolute shit which is undoubtably what they're referring to here. >Evangelion This is really your only mecha anime? Hell, your only tokusatsu anime (Champloo was good)? I like it, not my favourite Anno, but come on. >Yu Yu Hakusho You have to be a nostalgiatard to hold YYH in this high regard while ignoring the countless other battle anime that are far superior to it. Guess Dragon Ball and JoJo get too "memed" on, same with Hokuto no Ken. I guess that Ruroni Kenshin is too controversial, but come on. >FLCL Yeah, sure. My top 10 would just be (in no real order); >Hokuto no Ken >Daitarn 3 >The Monogatari Series >Ideon >Rose of Versailles >KareKano >Ashita no Joe 1 and 2 >Takarajima >Mahoujin Guru Guru >Victory Gundam

> missing well liked older shows like dominion tank police, gits and UY. All of the lists in this thread are basically just nufag seasonal crap.