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AI Voice / Prime AI Anonymous 01/30/2023 (Mon) 02:15:52 Id: 86a19b No. 528
AI voice generation has just made a massive leap ahead 15.ai, now on par with GPT-3 text generation and Stable Diffusion image generation. This is the next wave of machine learning magic and it's hitting the coast with tsunami force. >What the fuck does this have to do with videogames? Using clips from your favorite videogame voices you can make those voices say anything you want, just like 15.ai could, but with immensely greater quality. No more grainy, scratchy earrape. It even generates a proper accent if your feed it something that isn't English. You can use it to mod your dialogue into the game, or to make dialogue for your own game. Also, you can make anyone you want say NIGGER all day. The possibilities are endless. https://beta.elevenlabs.io/ Get the fuck in here and make a free account with a disposable email to generate up to roughly 10 minutes of dialogue a month with up to five storable voices at a time. Use more emails for more accounts for more free dialogue. 10 minute email works. No one can predict if these fags will jack prices or cuck out like DungeonAI, and people may not be so lucky as get viable alternatives right after they cuck out. The time to act is now.
Hear are some more example files dumped in the goober thread.
I think one of the most important things to start with, if not the most important, is to create a library of voice clips ripped from games to use. If you wanted to get real autistic with it, you could even organize it by particular emotion you wanted to convey.
>>775013 Put that in the synthetizer
Let's get this out of the way now: I want to make the robot say dirty things, are they going to listen to all my shit? Their FAQs say they'll do it when requested by law enforcement, but will they do it any sooner?
>>532 Don't have time to make dummy emails and accounts for specialized voices, so here's one of the generic ones. It seems they've put no filters on anything, even the free demo on the home page.
>>534 By the way, the limit on the homepage demo doesn't use cookies, it uses your IP. So you can hop IPs without changing your browser and keep going.
If you can't run it locally I don't give a fug
>>530 >>529 >>528 Have any of my little pony girls? I am not a Brony but I am impressed by how good those AI pony voices sound.
>is not an accepted type, mime type received video/mp4, accepted mime types: dict_keys(['audio/ogg', 'audio/mpeg', 'audio/opus', 'audio/wav']), accepted audio extensions: dict_values(['.ogg', '.mp3', '.opus', '.wav']). I have 6 minutes worth of voice lines of a character with no noise besides his voice. The file is in .mp4. Do I change it to another format?
>>538 Oh wait I'm retarded, didn't read that is doesn't accept mp4 so I just converted it to mp3 and now it works.
>>533 >I want to make the robot say dirty things, are they going to listen to all my shit? Nobody knows yet. I haven't seen anything about it.So far as I can tell, they may snoop the audio files you use to train your voices for copyright violation, but not the audio you generate from them. >ElevenLabs claims no rights over the files you upload to the Platform, except the right to review said files in accordance with local laws. I doubt they'll even be snooping for copyright soon. They immediately follow this statement by warning against publishing cloned voices without checking local laws, so I assume this means using a copyrighted voice is technically fine and they won't slap you for that unless they catch you publishing, which they won't here. >If you are unsure about whether you can publish content featuring a cloned voice, we advise that you consider your domestic law’s stance on copyright before publishing any such content. They use voices themselves without express permission, so long as they aren't making people pay for them, so unless you're caught charging for a voice you generated that appears to match one that's copyrighted, they probably won't even flag you for training audio snooping. >When we use recognizable voices, we do so for technology demonstration purposes, on short fragments of works that are either open-source or belong to the public domain Of course, always practice proper opsec for these things. Use a dummy email and only access their site via a VPN, that way should the stuff you make ever be snooped, leaked, or reported to law enforcement if you live a cucked nofreespeech nation, it couldn't be traced back to you. Good luck anon.
>>536 One day anon. One day. >>537 No, but I eagerly await Applejack.
>>541 >>537 Guy you can make them yourself. You just need audio clips. The site lets you upload audio clips and it will try to clone the voice from it. That's why I'm saying we need to make a clip repository everyone can use.
>>528 Where can I get more voice samples of Mrs. Incredible?
>>543 That should be more than enough. Keep in mind, though, as far as I know there's no way to tune the bot emotionally. Like it can't know when to be angry etc. You need to upload clips that have the tone of voice you want. So basically: create a normal clip, an angry clip, etc and use accordingly. If you give it a bunch of chaos it's probably just going to confuse the bot.
>>528 Do you hear that, artists? It is your permanent replacement on all fronts.
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JC's voice sounds weirdly low. I noticed this with the nigger video in the OP too.
>>544 I try it, but I don't feel satisfied with the result.
>>550 Anon unless you have clips of her sounding horny it doesn't know how to do that.
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>>551 Are there really no setting to fuck around with that can change that? You can only a drop a voice in an hope for the best. It says you can make entirely new voices, so there have to be some slides and toggles somewhere.
To the anons out there, now is literally the best time to spare a few hours and make use of this site, literally every AI thing like this explodes in popularity quickly and either shuts itself down or becomes saturated with users so the servers are too slow to use. I personally want to see if this AI can imitate mannerisms, for instance TF2 Heavy's broken English or David Hayter's Snake.
Can anyone recommend me something for bulk conversion of audio files in Linux so I can use this? Back on Windows Fubar let me convert an entire playlist easily with all kinds, but I have no idea how to get aif files into a valid one for this in a reasonable timeframe.
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This didn't end up sounding like Michael Gambon at all. Perhaps the speech I used simply wasn't enough for the ai to go on. It was less than two minutes.
>>552 wew lad
>>554 It's happened before when Kermit Jordan Peterson wanted the NotJordanPeterson AI to be shut down.
>>556 I saw an anon elsewhere recommend a bare minimum of two minutes of pure dialogue without background noise.
>>554 >broken English Just type in the English broken. It reads the text you input. If you don't give it broken English, Heavy will just speak the proper English you put in.
>>559 Does the minute have to be a single file, or do multiple files work?
>>561 I do believe you can use multiple files. I haven't actually made an account or voice yet.
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I tried Morrowind's Male Dunmer. I don't think it worked.
>Use NovelAI to generate a lewd story >Use Stable Diffusion to generate illustrations of scenes described in the story >Use Prime AI to narrate female dialogue and moans from the story These are the time we live in.
>>558 > That first video
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>this thread
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OK, it just totally fucks up with Male Dunmer. Does OK with Dagoth Ur though.
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>>775131 Yeah that was the one that let me know about this AI. I even created a webm for it.
>>528 Ehh, let me know when it can be done locally instead. Do we have any clue what hardware it requires, whether it could run on any modern GPU like Stable Diffusion or takes datacentre-tier shit like GPT3?
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It's time.
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Just learnt about this today, but before I investigate further I must ask... Is there a Bayonetta voice?
>>572 It will if you submit clean voice data.
>>572 Rip her voice from games anon. You make the voices yourself.
>>568 I tried making a webm but it just wouldn't attach. Thansk for posting that.
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>>571 That reminds me that Jedi Academy's voice files are easily extracted.
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>>571 The Supreme Jedi
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It's close but it feels like something is just off. I put in 50 voice clips direct from the game too.
>>570 Wasn't Lilo voiced by an actual kid?
Hmm...this really does need triggers for emotional tuning like 15.ai has. I put in 50 of Musse's horniest sounding lines and the ai somehow managed to make her sound normal. I mean, it definitely sounds like her, but every hint of flirtiness is gone. Is there no way to tune the ai behind the scenes? A code in the text box or something else?
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>>582 Actually I tweaked it and I like this one better.
Used original Duke 3D voices as the input and I think it even cleaned up the distortion from the low bitrate. Impressive shit, I must say.
>>528 1) Could you backup this thread on >>>/ais/ once it reaches the bump limit? 2) What are the chances some skiddie is going to find a way to leak the neural network + weights in the near future so it's not something that only evenlabs can use?
>>584 Nice. In my experience it totally failed to replicate the voice when trying to use audio from games that old. I think it needs more file quality than human ears do.
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Man this AI loves the tranny copy-pasta. It delivers it hard every time.
>>586 I don't think it's sample quality as much as it is sample size. I used https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=7M_mHQbhY5Q converted to .ogg as an input, and that's over 3 min. of base material to work off of. Pretty sure there being no background noise is a huge factor that's hard to find in most games unless you comb through the files and stitch them together yourself.
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Had to do a few generations to make the corruption at the end of the copypasta not be as bad, and I think it adds to the humor in a weird way.
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Can you do one for the todger story? ** My penis was oscillating between extremely sensitive and borderline traumatized. The last place I wanted to be was Frostnipistan. I’d been trying some home remedies, including one recommended by a friend. She’d urged me to apply Elizabeth Arden cream. My mum used that on her lips. You want me to put that on my todger? It works, Harry. Trust me. I found a tube, and the minute I opened it the smell transported me through time. I felt as if my mother was right there in the room. Then I took a smidge and applied it…down there. **
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>>579 Does it make any difference to you if the fake kid voice was generated from a real child voice audio or an adult mimicking a child voice if they sound the same in the end?
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I tried replicating the Francis E. Dec radio voice, it sounds a bit off but after numerous tests, this is the closest I could get.
>>591 Good work. A little funky at the end.
Anyone wanna take a spin at a Postal Dude voice?
>>564 We're inching slowly toward Star Trek's holodecks.
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>>564 also >VR for immersion >Automatic hands free strokers like the Handy or the SR6 to simulate sex >Hapticsuit and gloves to simulate touch and body contact
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a poem i like, read by Joshua Graham
I foresee that the reaction from artists and e-thots about AI generated art will be the same in regards with voice actors and celebrities, who will probably gonna go nuts and protecit their "Voice Rights" >>600 >Rudyard Kipling A Burned Man of Culture, I see.
>>601 I was thinking that you could do a V-Tuber that looks like Luke Skywalker/Mark Hamil anime character, with the voice of Mark Hamil, playing only Star Wars games. I am sure Disney's lawyers will be quick to shut it down. Or maybe one with Walt Disney in which he watches modern Disney movies and starts spouting /pol/ tier shit about the kikes.
>>602 >Mark Hamil playing only Star Wars games Or he plays Yakuza Kiwami and inserts his own gratuitous profanity, especially during the Majima everywhere fights.
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Can we have less schizo diarrhea and more vidya girls being comfy, nice and intimate with us instead? Thank you very much
>>605 Make it yourself. It's easy.
>>605 >schizo diarrhea While this has been a problem all over the board lately, I don't see it in this thread. Was it wiped?
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The cloning doesn't like low quality/older files, even if they're "clean". Here's a generated file (mp3) and one of (out of 50) the original voice lines from a 1996 computer game converted to ogg. It's actually the best I've gotten the AI to do with this voice.
https://mobile.twitter.com/elevenlabsio/status/1620032627075063811 Would archive it but archive.is is slow as fuck for some raisin.
>>609 https://archive.ph/6OXnU Yep. They're already speedrunning ruining it. Get your samples now, boys, they're going to kill it in record time.
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>>609 Everytime
>>609 it's already over?
>>613 Not yet, but likely soon. So, again, get your uses now before they implement changes.
>>609 This is why people should try to host these things locally. Stable Diffusion can be ran offline on your own computer using your own hardware and nobody can stop what you create, for better or worse.
>>615 Let me know when you make stable diffusion voice synthesis that sounds this good anon and I'll be right there with you.
The voice authenticity is hit or miss. The voice clips of fluttershy don't sound like her, maybe the clips aren't enough or misslead her voice but it just don't sound like her. Cool program though
>>617 MLP faggotry is a big part of why the 2010s were pure fucking cancer.
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>>617 >You wanna feel my hands
>>618 Some of our own drawfags were really into MLP back in the day, it was a weird psychosis that afflicted many creative types. It slowly disappeared over time, the only people who still care about it are furries. It's not like MLP isn't airing anymore, the fandom largely just went away.
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>>622 ...but anon CHIE IS A NIGGER
>Text generation >Code generation >Art generation >Speech generation I hope you niggers are fucking ready, because music is next. THIS IS THE HAPPENING OF OUR GENERATION
>>528 >>609 Is NO ONE trying to find a way to grab the network or weights?
>>609 >BLACKROCKED.COM
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>>624 >music is next AI Music was literally one of the first things that was done with this kind of thing. It benefits from sheet music for a single instrument and player being a relatively finite space compared to a picture or such. It also suffers from it since it's not distinguishable.
>>624 I can't wait to make my own games from scratch, where the art, coding, voices and music are made from ai and all I have to worry about is the writing. And yes, I know ai can write too, but that's the part I actually enjoy and I want it to make the worlds I create.
>>628 >AI Music was literally one of the first things that was done with this kind of thing. Yeah, and voice synthesis and AI art have been around a while too. But suddenly they're all making jumps to useable levels of quality. Where you're super music tool and why haven't I heard of it and musicians attacking it for taking their jobs yet?
>>626 >eating ze bugs well shit
>>628 Soon Miku will be able to write her own music, sing her own songs, choreograph her own dances, design her own albums, and design her own clothes. All she needs now, is the desire.
>>624 We just need to find out how to make sex robots
>>609 >>626 It was rigged from the start
Go get em lads. It was fun while it lasted.
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I made this, satisfied with how the voice turned out but I can spot out some irregularities and imperfections. Nothing more samples couldn't fix, I assume.
This shit is gold.
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>>609 Honestly wondering how fast they were going to cuck out. Only shocked how fast it happened.
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cuckchan is making an audiobook of the ENTIRE King James Version Bible using Joshua Graham's voice. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tM3Ip4QPPovt7KpqGivjPIoZPglXVxtIvbunOY4DzNI/edit#gid=371372286
>>636 Good work, now I do wonder when a taffer's going to "acquire" this AI for the rest of us.
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Can it recreate The Lion Speech of Christopher Walken? >>774973
>>642 The full speech is less than 2 minutes and Walken kind of sounds...a little more gravely that he usually does. It probably wouldn't sound very accurate. Maybe if you had another source for Walken's voice that was a little longer with him straight talking?
>>626 >making content universally accessible EXCEPT YOU BIGOT
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>>637 >>567 >>581 This works really well for Dagoth Ur. Here's some stuff I stole from Morrowind forums.
It's like if there was one guy who was really good at impersonating all of these people, but you could still tell it's just that one guy doing impersonations. Sort of like how you can hear traces of Mel Blanc's natural voice in all of the Looney Tunes characters.
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>>579 So?
>>624 Thought generation is next.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, people who narrate audiobooks can be replicated almost perfectly. It helps their sample size is so large.
>>640 Is there a way to share the cloned audio data/weights? And speaking of failsafes, how is TortoiseTTS?
>>617 Honestly sounds more like an older version of Scootaloo or possibly Sweetie Belle.
>>650 At best you can share the samples you used to build it and then just say what you put the settings at.
>>649 That's the first time I've heard an AI pronounce Al-Qaeda properly
>>653 I had to bully it and sound it out phonetically. People always forget you can do that.
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I'm guessing Midna's unscrambled voice wouldn't work well because it already sounds unnatural.
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>>649 Those Dumbledore ones are hilarious. >>609 F. Not surprising, but hopefully there will be an open source equivalent that can be run on end user devices in not too long.
>>656 Ah, that explains things.
>>528 So how exactly are you making these voices work so well? I've tried to create several models based off of shit like vid related but even adjusting the sliders several times over barely makes the voice any recognizable. Any tip to make this work? https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=7UIEqpAlyzI&list=PLZeVK97IA-Tea-vx0eEOgvTuAhcYtHPUR&index=0
>>659 I put about an hour of a hitler speach into it and this is what came out.
Also, anyone else being hit with the "Unusual activity detected"?
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>>659 I've finally got someone decent and that's Deb from Bloodlines. My experience from messing around is you need a clean voice sample. I tried using the faction announcers from Sins of a Solar Empire, Eleanor Lamb from Bioshock 2 and Celestine from DoW Unification mod. All failed because the voice files are modulated. Deb is a crisp clear voice. I also will take requests.
>>657 >Stanley Parable 2
>>660 I find it so weird, it feels like it's using some base voices and only adding a hint of most characters I use. There have been some good results, but they take way too much effort for the limited amount of characters they give you to get any good results. My guess is that it'd be best to wait for the weights or model to drop and experiment from there onward.
>>657 >>649 How do you get such great pitch and variation in tone? All I could do was getting a female voice to enunciate certain words. >It helps their sample size is so large. How large are we talking about here?
From a cuckchan thread no I don't use it, I was just looking for info on errors I've been getting If this AI ever gets deleted, you can generate voices using https://github.com/neonbjb/tortoise-tts Use pip to install requirements by running setup.py, then you run the do_tts.py If you want to use custom voices, go to the folder tortoise-tts/tortoise/voices Then make a new folder with a name e.g. "JordanPeterson" inside JordanPeterson (pun intended), you just put in clips of audios. .wav/.mp3 audio clips. Could be 5 seconds long, 10 seconds, 1 minute, etc. then change the default param run to python tortoise/do_tts.py --text "I'm going to speak this" --voice JordanPeterson --preset fast >Some people have discovered that it is possible to do prompt engineering with Tortoise! For example, you can evoke emotion by including things like "I am really sad," before your text. I've built an automated redaction system that you can use to take advantage of this. It works by attempting to redact any text in the prompt surrounded by brackets. For example, the prompt "[I am really sad,] Please feed me." will only speak the words "Please feed me" (with a sad tonality).
>>656 It's too restrictive anyway with only 10000 characters per month and ofcourse i am not paying them any money with the upcoming full id verification. Hopefully there will be an offline version of this like stable diffusion soon.
>>664 Another weird thing is when I only had one about 3min it was decently close to the actual voice, but when I add 30+extra minutes it sounded less like it.
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>>640 >Site is two days old. >Longest wish of Joshua Graham reading the bible being done by autistic anons. I love the internet sometimes. Alright, I've mucked around enough for one night. This has potential, no more scratchy background audio and almost actual expressions like breathing in dialog.
>>668 Had the exact same issue. Again, from cuckchan, it seems that the Rentry guy is trying to download as many datasets as possible, not sure if he's just trying to give them out to anons who want to work with the audio model or if he wants to make a NovelAI tier TTS model himself. Either way, here's the links: https://rentry.org/AIVoiceStuff https://mega.nz/folder/AHtCyYRa#WoWv9ug6vg27XfXOjfga-Q
>>665 >How large are we talking about here? For Jim Dale I put in sections of the audiobook. All told it was about 20 minutes of material for the ai to work with. This resulted in a nearly flawless reproduction in my opinion. Michael Kramer got nearly 30 minutes and his is pretty much spot on too. This is probably why things like Tucker Carlson work so well because you can just dump in whole newscasts with nothing but him talking. Video game voices works, but the clips are short and something about that seems to give it more trouble.
>>669 >Visas.mp3 This guy gets it.
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I just realized that, with this technology, Tamers12345 is just going to use Jaleel White's voice for Sonic now from now on. You know how obsessive he is about getting every detail right. He's never going to use the Moon Man voice ever again. FUCK TECHNOLOGY I HATE TECHNOLOGY TED WAS RIGHT
>>666 does it work as well as the one anons been using here?
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I broke it already.
>>671 This turned out really well
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>>676 I can't speak for myself since I have a toaster, but from what I've gathered from the replies, it's very computationally intensive and results vary wildly. I must say, although cuckchan gets a lot of posts, the majority of people kind of just talk to each other or ask things that are clearly marked in the OP, I kinda feel sorry for the rentry guy.
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>>676 It didn't work very well for me. Results weren't great in general, but it tripped HARD over things it didn't know how to say, sometimes devolving into mere static. It also had memory issues, particularly a seeming lack of protection. It was inconsistent which parameters would make me run out of memory, and when in the process, but more significantly when it did hit my VRAM limit it wouldn't error out, and would just bog down the entire system in some sort of memory thrashing (but it wasn't swapping into system RAM, so I'm not sure exactly what it was doing). I ended up having to force-reboot with REISUB four or five times last night when I was testing it.
>>671 What about the Argonians?
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>>682 ELABORATE JOLTEON IS FUCKING POINTY AND FURRY YOU SHIT FOR TASTE FAGGOT.
>>682 Could you make a Diana Burnwood model? That'd be real funny.
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>>679 You gotta make him say >I don't have time to play no stupid Donkey Kong when there are real niggers that are waiting to be kicked around
>>655 I was about to ask if it was possible to do Midna or squid "dialogue"?
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>>688 Generate what you want with a 'normal' voice (if possible, then look up one of the many fan-made audio filters to apply to it.
>>687 That bio makes him sound like a huge retard, but I guess that makes sense since he looks like a huge retard. Are those his mom's earrings or were they a gift from his boyfriend?
Someone on the cuckchan threads suggested https://huggingface.co/spaces/mdnestor/tortoise Please move this to >>>/ais/ once it hits bump limit btw
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>>692 >>671 Truly the greatest developer of our time
>>692 Fucking amazing.
>>686 Look no further
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>>674 >Sith loli tries seducing you... to the darkside
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My one foray into AI voice. Enter, Fluttershy.
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>>696 >You know what I love more than gems? >Piss The fucking delivery of that line
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>>687 delivered
>>696 I'll probably go download some on my own, but do you happen to have source audio files for her?

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>>702 Check rentry.org and if possible upload all the reference material to some repository so other anons can fuck with it.
>>671 Does that mean Dunmer are the honorary Aryan Japanese that had their homeland claimed by inferior races after their gods lost their divinity (The Tribunal = the Emperor)?
Can you make an orc voice or generate unique voices? maybe to do my own animation projects.
>>702 Your best bet is to extract the voice assets from the Sonic games she's in. The Sounds Resource may be a good start, so are the 7th gen isos from Vimm's Lair.
>>707 >The Sounds Resource may be a good start this is what i have been doing and it works really well, i also make sure to not upload any death or attacking sounds like grunts, screams etc
>>703 Sounds like you just want to stick your dick in an electrical socket and get off on the fact that it will probably hurt and kill you. You're retarded. Vaporeon is superior.
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>>710 I never noticed it before but that Vaporeon is tiny
Give me some sexy prompts to use for my female voice
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>>696 I am fucking dead.
>>691 >entire project is written in python It's no wonder >>683 had trouble with it, python is so computationally slow it's painful If I had the time for it I could potentially fork it and start rewriting it in C but I simply do not have the time for such an undertaking. I'll clone the git anyway just to browse the sources and get an idea of how much time it will take.
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>>640 We need a culture of critique audio book narrated by Jonathan Greenblatt.
>>719 Haah waaw
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A message from the cuckchan threads: Specifically we want to fork this text to speech synthesis project to compete with 11labs speech synthesizer. Source code for tortoise tts https://github.com/neonbjb/tortoise-tts here is the specific code we need to break down and understand https://github.com/neonbjb/tortoise-tts/blob/main/tortoise/utils/diffusion.py training models used https://github.com/neonbjb/tortoise-tts/tree/main/tortoise/models Source for the trainer project tortoise used https://github.com/neonbjb/DL-Art-School Tortoise tts videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3-jfS29RF4 [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfr_FZof_hs [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3yxL0Rr0c [Embed] we have datasets https://github.com/LAION-AI/audio-dataset Given the potentially large datasets involved it is a prudent strategy to decentralize training going forward. If you know anything about federated training or understand about these github projects can you explain which are the best and most relevant. https://github.com/topics/federated-learning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_learning This is new tech for many anons we need some experienced ML anons to help push this in a useful direction. Impart your wisdom anons. and webm related
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Give me something saucy or funny to make her say, I'm really unimaginative https://vocaroo.com/1cMlwk9CGy8q Stability 65% Clarity 80%
>>711 A living onahole.
>>724 If it were a glaceon would you call it a living yukionnahole?
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>>722 >We have to provide 6MB webms >6MB Every day I'm glad I never went back to cuckchan.
>>723 Never played a DQ game, so I re-wrote an old joke to try and match her backstory / description from a wiki page. Feel free to edit this if I got something wrong. >I recall the pantries of House Albert being well-stocked at any given time of year, holding a vast array of foods, all preserved through a multitude of methods. >Whole slabs of Gorerilla and Abominape meat, stored inside barrels of salt. Entire yields of vegetable crop, kept fresh or gradually pickled over several months by sealing them within containers of slime. However, there was a particular vegetable whose absence stood out to me, and so on one occasion I questioned my late brother as to why. >"Do we not store any cucumbers here?", I asked of him that day. "I see none among the slime jars. Perhaps they are held elsewhere?" >"I've heard mother speak of this", he replied. "They should be found in the locked section of the pantry, as they're preserved within some sort of alcoholic drink... 'Cider', I believe it was." >"Cider?", I queried. "Are you certain of that?" >"Absolutely", he affirmed. "I once heard her tell a friend that whenever she gets ahold of a cucumber, she puts it in cider."
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>>722 You should probably shill this in the gg thread as well, get as many autists as you can.
>>722 >the trainer is in python also FUCK ME, PYTHON IS SO SLOW
>>730 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vVUnCXKuNOg tl;dr : the best way to get the most performance out of python is to use as little as possible
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>>657 >Oozora Subaru I arrived late to the Eleven Labs party, but it's a good thing I have several hours of vtuber zatsudans to draw from when an open-source version comes out.
>>732 I vvager that the Hebrews are at favlt for this.
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Has someone found a way to extract Vocaroo files yet? https://vocaroo.com/1fJdR0aynV7p
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>>726 Hey don't blame the messenger. I'm only being a tourist there because they seem to give more shit about the tech than 8chan or the Webring. >>727 Okay anon, I'll do that just for you since you've been so nice. >>730 I'm assuming it's using your CPU, you may want to install Spyder and CUDA (if you have an NVIDIA graphics card, I think there's a way for AMD too but beats me how to do it) Or otherwise, just try and nag someone who's got access to chat-gpt to port it over to some other programming language.
>>735 Came out pretty well, anon. By the way, I could probably do it myself, but since you seem to be also giving away the dataset for the Rentry anon (assuming you posted https://files.catbox.moe/wuw6tm.zip ) would you be so kind as to provide datasets for the rest of the Skullgirls characters in that thread? It would be great.
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>>732 <They make users less anonymous and force them to think twice before sharing improper content Do these fucks ever read allowed what they're saying and realize they sound like the villains of the situation?
>>722 I don't know how forking works, but I presume it would be easier before the devs make the upcoming changes to ban shit. Might have been a good idea to wait until after forking it before making all the niggerposts.
>>741 Cant blame them, when I get a new toy of course I will want to play with it as soon as possible.
>>722 >carmack.webm Holy shit that thing can synthesize English better than most people I've met can speak it. And that's not even going into how perfectly close it sounds to the real Carmack.
>>741 By nature of git, projects have a timeline, and you can fork from a specific point in that timeline of the project, this makes is easy to go back to a point before a change in code potentially breaks anything, and pick up from the last known working state. Since the source is already open, it would be very difficult for them to suddenly impose restrictions because they would have to retroactivity taint the timeline of their project. If you have a github account, you can fork it immediately to your account where you can make changes to it, this also creates a trail from the original to your fork, so if others see the original project became tainted they can see that you created a fork of it and find it easier. That's what it means to fork it, you create a fork in the timeline to a new timeline of the projects development that you control. Cloning just means you copied the entire state of the project at a particular point in the timeline to your local machine. Either done through git installed on your computer with git clone https:/github.com/repo or done by downloading a compressed archive of the project. So far I've already cloned the tortoise project but I still have to clone the training projects.
>>714 >>730 Stable Diffusion is Python. KoboldAI is Python. Consumer-accessible AIs are almost always Python, and make use of packages like PyTorch.
>>743 I imagine the fact that Carmack speaks in a mostly flat voice all the time helps too.
>>745 What's wrong with Python ig there is anything wrong with it?
>>735 >>738 That's not mine, but I already found the issue. I wish I knew how to use ffmpeg as a basic video/audio editor.
>>747 Interpreted Programming Languages are always slower than Compiled Programming Languages by virtue of not being built specifically for your machine but for a virtual one. They're scalable, but at a high cost.
Why is there never just some appimage for this shit? It's always just running around trying to figure out dependencies and which fucking version of python you're supposed to use. Why the fuck can't these projects just package all the shit you need into an appimage and be done with it? God I fucking hate pip.
>>747 Put simply, it's easy to write and to run, and it handles a lot of things for you that a language like C requires you to do manually, but that comes at a performance cost. I ought to learn C, but almost all the coding I do is just short "use once and done" throwaway scripts, so even though Python is slower at runtime, ease and simplicity of writing it makes it much faster and more convenient overall.
Yidsney is gonna come for AI voice acting after they're done with AI art. Normalfags are already outraged.
>>752 >GIMME MONEY GIMME MONEY GIMME MONEY How could someone have so little self awareness that he could write that the way he did and think it makes him look like anything other than an asshole? If I didn't know better I'd think it was somebody mocking people like that.
>>752 I find this sentiment strange when it comes to modders making things for free out of their spare time. Not everything is on the scale of Skyblivion, most mods are projects made by teenagers. Ignoring the cost, does this guy think your average modder would even know how to be a voice director? >Y-yeah, uh, c-could you say that but like, um, angrier, please? This isn't even a debate over the ethics of voice cloning, it's getting angry at hobbyists being excited at the prospect of creating professional-feeling content becoming more readily accessible.
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>>753 After reading through his replies, there is zero nuance to his opinion. His stance is literally "If you can't afford to pay VAs, you don't deserve voice acting". Under that logic, fuck devs voicing their own mods I guess? Again, this isn't even the ethics-based arguments which I'm more sympathetic to, this is a monetary-based argument which just doesn't sit right with me. This is the same guy that openly promotes vidya piracy under basically the same reasoning as what he's arguing against.
>>752 Honestly I see AI voice as more likely to actually completely destroy the VA industry than Ai art / story tellling destroying those fields, at least in the short term. Apart from the odd weird pronunciation or whatever it really seems like this tech is damn near close to being indistinguishable from the real thing. Like if I was a VA i'd be pretty fucking worried about my job right now.
>>756 Apparently netflix has already used AI to do all the backgrounds in some anime. So yeah, this shit is going to absolutely shit on a lot of creative labor. If we thought the drawfag pissing and moaning was bad just wait until voice actors who have way more individual presence start screeching about it. It's going to make me start fucking hating creative faggots because their arguments are always bad faith.
>>752 Doesn't Disney have their own proprietary AI for voicing Stan Lee and Darth Vader?
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>>758 >Doesn't Disney have their own proprietary AI for voicing Stan Lee and Darth Vader? Yep. But you don't get it, anon, it's okay when they do it. It's only wrong when the plebs have the technology.
A masterpiece made with TortoiseTTS and Terry Davis' voice
>>749 >>751 I'm really surprised people are shitting these engines out in Python. I've built Tesseract from source just to get the right version and better OCR performance. It's not that hard to compile if you're not a nigger, as Davis might have said. Really not any more difficult than following a modding guide for, say, New Vegas for example.
>>755 >Zane's shit take >Artists deserve to be paid for their work >their "work" What work? They didn't do any of the fucking work. He could make a case that the company who developed the AI should be compensated, since they actually put work into developing the software, but why should some random literally who sitting there picking their ass oblivious to the development of a mod get paid for the sweaks and swquaks of a computer program just because it kind of sounds like them? You don't own a copyright to your voice. You can own a copyright to a very specific piece of recorded media - but not to the voice, and the media isn't being re-arranged and re-distributed... it's just training an AI that creates a facsimile. Is he going to argue that anyone doing an impersonation has to pay the person he's impersonating? Or what about multiple VAs who voice the same character? Does Ashley Burch have to pay Laura Bailey a portion of the money she made doing Risette's voice in Dancing All Night, because Ashley was (badly) impersonating Laura's voice in order to fit the character? Is Saki Fujita entitled to royalties on every single Hatsune Miku song produced, since Crypton sampled her voice for their vocaloid software? And good luck going after the company who made the AI for reparations. Two to three years max and it'll be open source and everywhere, just another filter on a dozen different random Chinese cell phone apps. I'm so glad this shit is going to put VAs out of work. Maybe then we can just turn them into glue so that they'll actually be useful for something, like we did to most horses after the invention of the combustion engine.
>>755 >>752 It's just pure selfishness on every end and piracy is the same. Everyone is going to do and say exactly what they want and what personally benefits them the most. I recommend people do the same. >but morals I normally agree with you, but there's honestly no real discussion to have. Almost every artist and voice actor is going to insincerely oppose AI under false pretenses and most pro-AI people will do the same for their position. If no one's being real or rational, there's nothing to actually talk about. Personally, I'm gonna support AI because it expands the opportunity to create media at a lower cost, and it's almost inevitable. It'll definitely come at the expense of many people, but I kinda think they're assholes a lot of the time anyway and I prefer the selfish benefit of a "freer" internet. Imagine how miserable 8moe would be with aggressive copyright enforcement. Imagine how unfun gaming could become with zero piracy. Look how much music takedowns hurt Youtube and Twitch. No one actually wants to live in a no fun allowed world, they just want an easier job market. Kinda preaching to the choir to say it in an AI thread but whatever, it's true.
>>765 You want to suck VA dick, we get it.
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>>765 >I'm so glad this shit is going to put VAs out of work. >>767 >You want to suck VA dick, we get it.
>>765 >I'm so glad this shit is going to put VAs out of work. Maybe then we can just turn them into glue so that they'll actually be useful for something, like we did to most horses after the invention of the combustion engine. >>767 I hope no one ever wants to suck my dick.
>>767 Mean to reply to this >>766 tsundere
>>770 Oh. Then you didn't read my post either.
>>766 It's not really comparable to piracy either though. There is an inkling of an ethical issue with piracy. There is literally nothing unethical about technology putting someone out of work. There is no moral obligation to hold back technological advancement because it's more economically efficient than human labor. The only ethical issues with generative AI are in their datasets and copying someones likeness. But that faggot isn't complaining about that. He's complaining that fucking modders of all people have some moral obligation to give people money to do something that tech can give them for free. It would be like saying you shouldn't use a computer because you might put a typist or paper mill out of business. It's completely disconnected from reality.
>>771 Yeah, looks like I had it right the first time at Must be dyslexia kicking it.
>>772 >an ethical issue with piracy Only on paper. In practice so few people actually breach ethics to commit piracy that it is not worth considering. To commit piracy unethically, you have to fulfil these criteria: >have enough funds to purchase the game >the game must be available in your region >the publisher and developer must not have done something that would have caused you to refuse buying the game on principle, were the game not available for piracy <e.g. NISA localized yet another game terribly, but you pirate it just to see if the game was shit. however if it were not available for piracy you would not bother buying it >you try a game to see if you'd like it because no demo is available, and end up liking it, but don't buy it anyway <again, if piracy were impossible, you just wouldn't have bought the game because you were unsure, which actually leads to a lost sale especially if the game has multiplayer that you want to play Basically you have to be intentionally withholding your disposable income from the developers for no good reason. Most people have a good reason. Therefore piracy is nearly always ethical and the few unethical pirates are not worth paying shady "security" firms money to attach parasitic malware to your game.
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>>772 Reminder that people like this laughed for years about "uneducated rednecks" in the flyover states living in hollowed out poverty stricken towns after all of their manufacturing was outsourced to Mexico or India or any number of nations with cheap sub-standard manufacturing and next to no environmental/safety regulations. They were the unapologetic beneficiaries of the slaughter of the American middle class for decades, and now the butcher has come for them. They're mad if they think anyone is going to draw a line in the sand for them. And it's not going to stop at voice actors. If we're lucky, within the decade Hollywood may end up a hollowed out ghetto like Detroit. It's already on their doorstep, but that's mostly due to liberal policies in their commie state. That CAN be fixed. But nuking the entire local economy that sustains them by eliminating the industry it's founded on with nothing to replace it? That's salting the Earth so nothing will grow there again. I'm sure it'll survive in some form, as craft entertainment will always be in demand. You'll probably see a major push for it as AI invades more and more creative spaces, but you can't win against the raw calculus of economic incentive in the mass market without heavy-handed legislature that's just going to put you at a massive technological disadvantage on the globally. Traditionally made media without substantial AI assistance will be the new "organic" niche craft, and largely irrelevant to the wider market.
>>775 oh, I forgot the mp4 in case it gets deleted
>>756 Honestly, the nepotistic shits in the western va industry should get kicked to the curb. Especially faggots like Sean Schemmel, when you hear about half the shit he's done (the KickVic shit, getting pissy that he had to share a table with the Spanish voice actor for Goku at a convention when Nozawa got her own, talking shit about Nozawa practically to her face) you realize he needs a swift kick in the balls and tossed out on the street.
>>776 If AI/machines can be made to do everything, then what purpose to humans serve save as stewards and maintenance workers for said machines?
>>778 >getting pissy that he had to share a table with the Spanish voice actor for Goku at a convention when Nozawa got her own Wait, are you saying some faggot dubber VA is upset he's second fiddle to the actual original Voice Actor >>779 Yes. The Printing press killed the scribe. It's inevitable.
>>776 So you’re a butthurt wageslave who wants everyone else to have as shit a job as you
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Since we're halfway into this threads lifecycle, can someone compile the highlight reel? I don't want to wade through a bunch of unfunny autistic fetish garbage to keep to one or two chuckles worth of content.
>>781 Can you tell me from where did you draw such a conclusion? It certainly doesn't read that way to me.
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>>783 He's projecting, anon.
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>>779 It's just a matter of time before AI stewards and maintenance workers for the machines are more capable and more efficient than humans, and we won't be needed in that role either. People are going to have to come to terms with the idea of being completely useless to the future, or find some way to work in concert with technology Such as robot waifus.
>>782 >I don't want to wade through a bunch of unfunny autistic fetish garbage to keep to one or two chuckles worth of content. I'd like more autistic fetish garbage. It seems like 9 out of 10 posts are "Make this person say NIGGER"
>>779 They serve to do whatever the fuck they want. To be free. Factories making production easier didn't hold us back, it freed us from hurting ourselves so much to get less done. It allowed us to work a lot less. People talk about this as if because things are going to be different, they're going to be worse. I'm not convinced. I'm admittedly a bit scared it'll swing to the left and people will have a knee jerk panic reaction of not knowing where their money will come from, but I think if they tough it out a bit they'll realize there's plenty more to do in the world as a human. Humanity relates to other humans, and no machine can really replace having a friend over, being in love, playing sports or whatever else people feel like doing. The concept of labor might shift more to "human activities" somehow being more seriously practiced and monetized. I'm not saying everyone's going to be a prostitute, a Twitch streamer, one of those Japanese professional cuddlers or a cat cafe owner, but the world might open up a little more to things that are less of a dreary grind.
>>774 Which is why I used the word inkling. >>781 You truly have no reading comprehension at all dude.
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>>765 >Is Saki Fujita entitled to royalties on every single Hatsune Miku song produced, since Crypton sampled her voice for their vocaloid software? That would depend entirely on the agreement she signed with Crypton, and the terms of use of the software that the users agreed to before producing songs. A single lump sum, a share of sales revenue of the software itself, or a royalty from song revenue would all be conceivable agreements. To be honest I do think the objections to this are more legitimate than for the art. While a voice, like an art style, is not copyrighted, it's also very different to an art style in that it is biologically innate, involuntary and not readily changeable, and more inextricably tied to one's identity, both professional and personal. Let's not be disingenuous about it: a huge proportion of what's being made with this tool is wanting to make a specific person say things. "I want to make Tom Scott talk about niggers", "I want to made Biden say YWNBAW", and so on. It's not actually about the qualities of the voice, but about the person whose voice it is. When people using Stable Diffusion add "by Greg Rutkowski" they don't give a fuck about Greg Rutkowski and are only adding that because it makes it look better, because of the properties of the style. But people trying to replicate Biden's voice aren't doing it because his voice sounds good, they're doing it because he's Biden. It may not be a copyright issue, but in a way it's more like a trademark issue, based on an implicit trademark on personal identity. If a clothing company used the photo and name of a pro athlete in their marketing without any agreement or royalties to the athlete, should it be allowed? The photograph is copyrighted, but the copyright is held by the photographer rather than the subject. The name and the face themselves aren't copyrighted any more than voices are. So is there nothing stopping the company from doing that? If not, why do companies pay massive sums of money for permission in practice?
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>>790 Impressions aren't illegal, and making good impressions readily accessible for cheap is not an infringement of trademark or personal rights.
>>761 >the missile Goddamn, that's some delicious classic.
>>783 >Reminder that people like this laughed for years about "uneducated rednecks" in the flyover states living in hollowed out poverty stricken towns after all of their manufacturing was outsourced to Mexico or India or any number of nations with cheap sub-standard Same basic sentiment I’ve seen a few times now. >You wanted to replace my shitty toilet cleaning job with robots, now your actually enjoyable job will be replaced haha get fucked And conflates some obnoxious faggots on twitter artists, or in this case VAs. >> 777103 >no u
>>777134 Naruhodo. However, you don't have to be a butthurt wageslave to take issue with these faggots, because as anon said, they're hypocrites. Taking issue with hypocrites and enjoying watching them get a taste of their own medicine is appealing to everyone.
>>756 Do AIs even know how to scream, cry, or laugh yet?
>>796 >Do AIs even know how to scream, cry, or laugh yet? They don't yet have enough experience with the world to have a reason to scream, cry, or laugh. That'll take a few more years yet.
>>796 Actually, I'm pretty sure ElevenLabs claims on their site that they can doing good laughing and lots of bragging about how they did it first.
>>792 >Impressions aren't illegal They are often legal because they are used to parody a public figure, but they are not generally legal. "Right of personality" is a very real legal doctrine.
>>796 Technically they don’t “know” anything even now, and probably never will unless our understanding of consciousness improves enough for us to replicate it. Assuming consciousness is even possible to replicate through technology. But mimicry should be enough if your a ryonafag who wants to abuse his sexbot
>>799 >Right of personality Doesn't that only apply to commercial use? If Disney wants to use the voice of a dead actor to make a marketable film using his likeness, then they have to pay to the actors estate. If a mod author wants to use the voice of a VA in their free works, I don't think there's a legally actionable option to stop them except for throwing around money and clout to bully your way to get what you want. There may be libel and slander defamation considerations, but that would have to be decided on a case-by-case basis to still allow for parody. So Bethesda can't use an AI to cut VA's out of the loop while still replicating their voices, but it shouldn't be an issue for mod authors and shitposters.
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>>796 >Do AIs even know how to scream yet?
>>801 >So Bethesda can't use an AI to cut VA's out of the loop while still replicating their voices, but it shouldn't be an issue for mod authors and shitposters. They can pay them a one time fee for whatever the three recorded lines of dialogue is worth.
>>803 But they still have to pay them, or at least obtain the actor or his estate's consent, beforehand. I don't think that's an issue for non-marketable content. If you make a mod for Skyrim using Esbern's VA to expand the dialogue options for him via AI - there's nothing Max can do about it. But that mod will never be able to be a part of Bethesda's Creation Club, or even included for free so long as Bethesda is distributing it, unless Bethesda pays Max or gets his approval.
>>801 >Doesn't that only apply to commercial use? Legally speaking, it depends. In some cases only "gain or advantage" is required without it necessarily being commercial gain. And there's also an overlap with privacy rights. Of course, where the boundaries are and should be is a distinct matter. What's relevant is that the personality rights do exist, meaning that unlike the "style" complaint for AI art, there is genuine capacity for infringement with this tech. >>803 Depends what the contract specifies as the use for the lines. Keep in mind that the reason AI art training sets are not a copyright violation is because the art was publicly posted, giving implicit permission for it to be viewed, with the training counting as "viewing" (meanwhile, it doesn't give permission to, say, sell prints of it, meaning that's still a violation). Lines recorded by a VA are not distributed freely and publicly, and Bethesda's use of them is governed by a contract; if the terms concerning distribution don't include AI training it may be a violation. And if the terms do include AI training then clearly it makes sense that the payment would be much more than if it were only the three lines.
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>>804 I wonder how much butthurt would be generated if people used the AI to read out celebrities more spicy tweets in their own voice? A lot of them wouldn't have a problem with it - like Adam Sessler or Madonna who regularly say insane shit in public all the time, but a lot of these celebrities don't use their own Twitter accounts. They have handlers and PR agencies that manage the accounts for them. Even if they are the ones actually saying those things, people tend to treat text differently than something with a more human impact - like voice. It may not even be their own words, and hearing it back in their own voice could be really dis-settling. Especially if their voice is an iconic one that they don't necessarily want associated in people's minds with some spicy shitpost. Just... hold the mirror up. See what reflects.
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>>804 I posted that George Lucas one yesterday, and I think 11 ai kind of sucks at elderly voices and it ends up not speaking like Richard Harris at all. I think my compromise of using Jim Dale (who did the audio books) was a good one, especially since it got his voice tone perfect: >>649
>>787 >I'm not saying everyone's going to be a prostitute, a Twitch streamer, one of those Japanese professional cuddlers or a cat cafe owner, but the world might open up a little more to things that are less of a dreary grind. Anon everyone's just going to become a fucking neet. It's like how TNG pretends that people would still sign up for Starfleet and go explore or colonize shit after the invention of the holodeck. No, everyone's just going to be like Barclay only worse. Or, you know, the bombs are going to fall and instead of checking dubs we're all going to be screaming WITNESS ME. I'm kind of hoping for that latter one because that shit sounds kind of fun. I probably need to build an autogyro.
>>810 Every single artist in the US could lose a job and you would see what, 2% increase in unemployment? The kinds of jobs AI replaces won't turn a statistically significant amount of people into NEETs. The market will just get more optimized by forcing these retards to do something useful like clean a toilet or cook a meal.
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>>810 >It's like how TNG pretends that people would still sign up for Starfleet and go explore or colonize shit after the invention of the holodeck. Star Trek also refuted that very concept directly in Generations, where Kirk was in the ribbon and living the perfect life he always dreamed of - but nothing was real, nothing had impact, and there was no risk. He ended up leaving paradise so that he could make a difference again. Granted the Holodeck has safety protocols that you can turn off, but why risk your life for a fantasy simulation - when you could risk your life in the real world and make a mark on history?
>>812 >risk your life in the real world and make a mark on history just like George Floyd
>>812 Is that green thing his wife? Does he fuck it?
>>811 The problem is that AI's can replace artists but they also can't replace artists because they new new art styles and art pieces to iterate and riff off of. So artists stop arting and then the AI's just iterate off themselves and then you end up with an eternity of bean mouth and of the "standard AI art style" and as a consequence the public gets tired of art and the eventually corporations just stop even bothering with art at all, AI or otherwise. AI art is really an evolutionary dead end.
>>815 I think this logic grossly underestimates the quantity of existing art to iterate off of that already exists. I think AI could easily have functionally infinite creative iteration just based on the entire catalog of human creation so far. That probably won't happen because I'm sure there will probably be some legislation to prevent datasets with copyrighted works. But if it were hypothetically given free reign to access all creative works I really don't see AI ever hitting this blandness singularity that you describe.
>>815 I'm not convinced that's true. It could probably experiment a lot with human assistance. It might even find commonalities between popular styles to help. What I mean by that is that it could make small adjustments "randomly" many times per second and dump the outputs on humans, who evaluate them and decide what looks better or interesting. This could allow it to create new artstyles out of nothing. After all, that's arguably what people themselves do to improve other things in life. The standard AI style just seems like a stepping stone. And people will always draw, it'll just be less serious. Comparisons have been made to horses, but horses do still exist and Central Intelligence Agents will still doodle in their schoolbooks. Will as many people do it? No way, unless AI opens up more job opportunities somehow.
>>815 It's not a dead end because it was never the end goal to begin with. People who shit on AI don't understand its uses in this current state. It would be like saying a hammer is a dead end to carpentry because you can only use it to apply nails. In visual art, especially, AI is a tool for artists to use to make their own lives easier. I already know at least one that does. People who know how to apply artistic concepts can utilize prompts better than any random faggot can.
>>812 I think there was a line in DS9 in which Quark bragged about having his own private Holosuite, implying that it was still a very expensive thing that not everyone could afford, but I am not the biggest ST fan, so take this with a grain of salt. Now even if this is not true, the idea is that while they live in a post scarcity world, having access to "infinite" food, water, shelter and safety(on Earth) of good quality, people still have needs such as having esteem and self-actualization, which in that world can not be obtained by spending their life in the Holodeck, but by doing something, such as joining Star Fleet, or even one of those expedition missions to seek out new life and new civilizations. It's just like now, in that sure, fapping to whatever one wants to fap to, all day might give him a few doses of pleasure, but at the end of the day he might feel hollow and unfulfilled.
>>819 DS9 wasn't technically within the Federation, and still had a market economy, using currency backed by a precious metal (which maintained its value since replicators weren't capable of creating it).
>>786 Look anon it's not anyone's fault, other than perhaps some English colonists with a good sense of humor, that nigger is a fun word to say. Linguistically, it is a funny word as words with hard consonants tend to be inherently more amusing.
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>>814 Turns out that Orion girls age almost as poorly as Indian women. No-one said that exploring space was not without it's perils. >>820 >First Image Getting way off topic, but But private property did still exist. Kirk owned a ranch. Picard had a vinyard that he inherited from his brother. Sisko's father owned a cafe. If money didn't exist, then people still couldn't just take everything like a fucking commie. They'd have to exchange something else of value, like another equivalent good or service rendered in a barter system. Or it would be offered freely, because the owner LIKED doing the work - not by compulsion of the state or economic circumstance. Kind of like how people write open source programs and just give them away, or work together to build a software platform without direct compensation. There were also Federation Credits, which were money but not called money, so that individuals in StarFleet could trade with non-Federation civilizations. Star Trek never really thought too deeply on what the economy of it's future world was supposed to look like. It's just kind of handwaved away with a pie-in-the-sky ideal of post-scarcity freeing people to pursue their own goals uninhibited by economics, and pretty much everything afterwards was a handwave excuse. People mistake it for communism, especially communists, when really it's just half-baked idealism and a lack of creativity.
>>822 Humans in star trek were also supposed to be evolved humans, so they didn't have the same violent or greedy tendency's modern day people do.
Call me when live action actors are replaced by AIs. VAs make pittance in comparison to those cunts.
>>823 >they didn't have the same violent or greedy tendency's modern day people do so they got rid of all the niggers
>>823 Yeah, but that was used in the same way hippies talk about humanity needing to "evolve" to the next phase. It's "social evolution", an illusion that only works when things are stable and going well. When they can comfortably afford to be the enlightened rationalists in the room. LOTS of episodes revolve around shit hitting the fan and the characters threatened with regressing to humanities baser nature. The Drumhead probably being the most popular example, but a lot of that idealism is also tested against superior enemies like the Borg. Which is why Picard was the hero of the show, because he stood as an exemplar of those principles when everyone around him was at the breaking point. Goddamned shame what they allowed him to do to Star Trek
>>816 >I think this logic grossly underestimates the quantity of existing art to iterate off of that already exists. I think AI could easily have functionally infinite creative iteration just based on the entire catalog of human creation so far. But there would be no new styles. Imagine for a minute that we lived in a world that until very recently figurative art as banned, like say how it is in muslim countries. If drawing, painting, sculpting, etc. doesn't get off the ground before photography is invented then the entire concept of artistic "styles" would be completely alien beyond photographic techniques and styles. In that world, once AI art is invented, it would only output photorealism but with different filters or development techniques. Now imagine a similar world but that it differs in that photography doesn't get off the ground until the smartphone era and AI cones along 10 years later. There wouldn't even be photographic styles. AI would just generate photorealism plain and simple. If we traveled to either of those worlds and complained about the lack of variety in what their AI art could generate the people there would look completely puzzled and probably respond with some version of the snippet of your post I quoted.
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>>824 Already done.
>>823 >>825 >>826 >Yeah, but that was used in the same way hippies talk about humanity needing to "evolve" to the next phase. It's "social evolution" That's sort of the sanitized version but between the devastating nuclear war and the Eugenics Wars it's entirely possible that a lot the more hostile, violent, and poorly controlled gene lines were in fact wiped out during that period. Both intentionally and incidentally. Apparently something very similar happened to the Vulcans and then they just layered a spiritual ascetic philosophy/religion on top of it to finish the job.
>>828 Why do we still have kikewood actors then?
>>831 >Why do we still have kikewood actors then? Cost effectiveness. To get the whole package for a feature length film, studios can hire a bunch of literally whos and a few d-list celebs for cheaper than it is to render them all from whole cloth with computers. But... where are the new Arnold Schwarzeneggers? Where are the Sly Stalones, or Sean Connerys or Eddie Murphys? Maybe you'll get a few of these actors back in a desperate attempt to "pass the torch" and salvage a franchise for future marketability before everyone involved is dead and rotting... but there's nothing really left, and half of the modern actors who's names people even remember, you only remember because they're in the news cycle and are propped up by the media hype bubble. They're not really talked about, unless they said something stupid and are being mocked. Once it becomes more economical to just make everything digitally, they will. And all these advances in AI are a huge step in that direction.
>>832 Henry Cavil is the nearest thing to those and they all tossed him out.
>>831 There are plenty of people who will go and watch , but not necessarily pay for a movie, just because their favorite actor is in it. For instance, Johnny Depp, after clearing his name with his "redemption arc" in court, whatever major movie he will be in, will most likely be a blockbuster. Now there are limits to this, for instance Robert Downey Jr, while getting more and more money for those Marvel flicks, because "people wanted to see him as Iron Man", when he quit, his next major role was in Dolittle, and that shit bombed.
Any of you make one for ol' George?
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>>793 >The poorly scratched audio. >The breaths between sentences. >The reverb on the voice. The only problem is the voice sounds kind of monotone. But actual breathing. It sounds so much like the source material.
>>835 Speaking of this, i recently watched seinfield for the first time and it was one of the most unfunny things ive ever watched, what the fuck do people see in it?
>>777 Insane, how was this deepfaked? >>772 >There is literally nothing unethical about technology putting someone out of work. There is no moral obligation to hold back technological advancement because it's more economically efficient than human labor. That's why unions exist, doe. Rather, they SHOULD exist to protect workers' rights and establish an unified price on their labour, but in reality they're a political tool used to oppress workers who do not contribute to the union and bully industries into doing retarded shit like hiring three people for the job that could be done by one. They're also as responsible for worse wages and wage gaps between jobs and genders as the big tycoons they complain about. >>787 What I find the funniest about all of this is that leaving production in the hands of human-supervised AIs/Neural Networks is akin to the fucking communist utopia that keeps getting promised - where labour is shared so well that people will have the leisure to waste away their days in perfect harmony. >>790 >To be honest I do think the objections to this are more legitimate than for the art. While a voice, like an art style, is not copyrighted, it's also very different to an art style in that it is biologically innate, involuntary and not readily changeable, and more inextricably tied to one's identity, both professional and personal. That's a really good point though. My opinion on the matter is that if the person has croaked or cannot speak like that anymore due to biological reasons then it's fair game. I can understand the argument against making Joe Biden start WW3 by calling Putin a slavic nigger, but I can't understand how making Bob Ross say that you'll never be a woman have any economic repercussions on anyone. >>792 Though impressions are generally speaking clear cut and stated. No one would go watch shit like SNL and think that the President of the United States is there to bomb them all.
>>804 >>808 These though are fucking fantastic. Putting the OST/ambient of the original series makes them even better. >>815 You're all severely overestimating the amount of patience one needs to make the perfect art piece. For every autist willing to shit out a hundred pictures with AIs inpainting features as he sees fit there'll be a hundred more who can't get the specifics right - if they even get it installed in the first place - and will still commission. Commissioning is all about status and clique anyhow. >>837 >Speaking of this, i recently watched seinfield for the first time and it was one of the most unfunny things ive ever watched, what the fuck do people see in it? You're not the only one to have that reaction, a lot of people watching it way past its airing think that. Seinfeld was revolutionary when it came out for a few reasons: most sitcoms mainly dealt with family matters, learning lessons, a group of friends etc. but were mostly rather safe when they weren't outright boring. Seinfeld instead centered all its episodes on a group of assholes who would talk about nothing of real importance, sex and a lot of really taboo conversation topics for the conservative-led culture censorship were openly (or slightly openly) talked about, I think it's the first show who would talk about queefs on live tv too. It was also one of the first shows to be extremely referential to other shit that was popular around the time it came out, think of it like the Rick and Morty of the antemillennium. Of course by today's standards most of the jokes and situations are clichè and commonplace, but that's exactly because it was THAT fucking influential. People (especially New Yorkers, who were still the citizens of the capital of the culture world at that time) would all watch it simultaneously and would reference it in public. It had practically the same effect that the Simpsons had on animation. Basically Seinfeld is unfunny because it was only meant to be funny to the people who were used to watching soaps and sitcoms, again, just like the Simpsons was a parody of shows like the All In The Family.
>>815 >they need new art styles and art pieces to iterate and riff off of You can combine existing styles to create new ones.
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>>817 >Central Intelligence Agents will still doodle in their schoolbooks >>820 >>827 >But there would be no new styles. >>840 >>838 >That's why unions exist Unions, on paper, exist to protect workers from rights abuses by their employers, not to protect their livelihood from competing technology.
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>>839 I'm also guilty of not finding Seinfeld very funny most of the time (but ended up watching every episode anyways and did start to "get it" a little by the end), but I think it's interesting that I never had a problem finding The Simpsons to be funny. Some references are dated, but many of the best jokes are funny within the context of the episode. There's a setup and a payoff. Seinfeld's best jokes work like this, but usually come at the end when all the plotlines merge. The jokes in between are usually conversational "you ever notice...?" bits. I think the bigger problem is that Seinfeld's comedy schtick is past its prime, and a lot of the smaller jokes relied on that style to fill time. Curb Your Enthusiasm is probably a decent barometer to measure this effect, though. It's newer, is still being produced (sometimes, when Larry David feels like it), but still has a lot of the "let's point out social boundaries" comedy. It's obviously not 100% the same format, but I think someone who likes Curb would probably have liked Seinfeld in the 90's. If they don't, it's a time issue. If Curb doesn't make them laugh, then perhaps there's something else going on.
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>>825 sisko best captain
>>842 I find both the old simpsons and curb your enthusiasm funny, but i really dont find seinfield funny at all.
>>837 >>839 >>842 >>844 GOOD NEWS! We now have infinite Seinfeld episodes, courtesy of AI generated speech and AI generated 3D models moving around with an AI generated laugh track, even. https://www.twitch.tv/watchmeforever
>>759 PoV: Attempting to escape the van.
>>844 Curb Your Enthusiasm is nothing more than Seinfeld with swearing so I can't see your perspective. I guess it has more racially charged humor? Even as a kid I thought Seinfeld was at least a little funny so I guess it's a matter of taste. The actors are really good at their roles, Michael Richards and Jason Alexander in particular. Richards can deliver totally unfunny lines in a funny way. Not everything lands (oh look it's another "Jerry doesn't like a girl for objectively trivial reason" joke) but it certainly has its moments
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>>846 PoV: Attempting to escape the van successfully.
>>841 >Unions, on paper, exist to protect workers from rights abuses by their employers, not to protect their livelihood from competing technology. Newer technology is akin to having competing workers, anon. I recall a documentary describing how unionization and raising the minimum wage for carwashes in the New York state area actually decreased the amount of people working in carwash and made private one-man and automated car-washes extremely profitable. I think it was Vice, but it's now lost to time since I can't recall the title and youtube is not helpful when searching for old videos. >>842 >The jokes in between are usually conversational "you ever notice...?" bits. That's because (((Jerry Seinfeld))) is a comedian whose career kickstarted the entire genre of observational humor. He did that shit in stand up and (((Larry David))) just took that premise and made it half autobiographical to him and Seinfeld alike, and half completely absurdist and referential. > I think the bigger problem is that Seinfeld's comedy schtick is past its prime, and a lot of the smaller jokes relied on that style to fill time. Again, it's all about the time when it came out. I really love both Laurel and Hardy comedy movies and Xavier Renegade Angel, and both comedic styles are fondly remembered not because they're universally funny, but because they were funny/original the time they came out and it stuck with a lot of people. Heck, Mel Brooks would find it real hard to get a holler out of people if he published his stuff nowadays. >>845 Cool. How does that work?
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>>847 Nevermind, im retarded, i mixed up curve your enthusiasm with whose line is it anyway. >>848 Anon, whats the implication here?
>>850 Lolis like to laciviously lure their victims with offers of beer, bacon, and classic rock CDs. If our dear intrepid anon escapes from the clutches of those lewd ladies, then it means he escaped with the beer and the bacon.
>>827 >But there would be no new styles. There already aren't any new styles in regular art. In fact I would probably make the argument that AI could result in more creativity than human iteration does. We already have art stagnating and styles merging into the lowest common denominator. With AI it's like >>840 said. I can tell it to combine 3 different styles into one and instantly discover an entirely new visually appealing art style. This is something that would take a human thousands of hours to discover on their own. Plus you're ignoring the tooling aspect of generative AI. Artists will use it as a tool to speed up their own creativity, thus resulting in more "human creativity" anyways. Society doesn't even value unique creativity today. The markets consistently demand generic mediocre content and that is what gets churned out. The free market is a bigger threat than AI could ever be.
>>851 Oh good, for a moment there i thought you were implying that hat kid got turned into bacon.
>>849 >Newer technology is akin to having competing workers, anon Doesn't matter. No union's expressed purpose to help people keep their jobs includes in its scope the stifling of competing technology.
I wish I were capable of looking at emerging technologies with the same innocent wonder I did as a child. Inevitably this is going to change the industry but living in the in-between phase sucks. Do you think this is how people felt watching groundbreaking technologies revolutionize their lives?
>>855 I don't think making a car had a comparable psychological impact to making Joe Rogan say "I really want to blow out the ass on a nigger tranny and eat a shit sandwich made from their feces", no.
>>856 >>855 Well the car being invented resulted in a lot of death, especially of kids in the short term, so I don't know if "innocent wonder" is the best way to describe how people felt about it. At the time it was a finicky, uncomfortable machine that was liable to get you killed. It's likely only the industry proponents and people in the transportation business were optimistic about it for a few decades. So many advancements were made in manufacturing during and after WW2 that I'd think most would never imagine how comfortable cars would be today.
More stuff found floating around Twitter Nitter. Don't know if it was already posted.
>>859 >Geralt Holy shit that's amazing. >Makoto Every single Persona rip I've heard has the girls' voices register way too high. Rise, Chie, Makoto. All of them. There's something off about it.
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The reason some people don't like AI, is because of it's downsides. I don't think AI audio causes as many as others, by itself anyway, but does have a significant one in making audio evidence all but worthless, and for that reason alone I think it's bad. Same with AI art able to generate 'photographic evidence plus in the case of art I think it kinda defeats the whole point, i.e. actually creating stuff, but whatever. This is just scratching the surface of all the downsides. Maybe you think it's worth it for all the upsides, I don't. You can talk about progress and inevitability all you want, like a leftist, but progress isn't inherently good. You can talk about 'seizing the means of production' or 'labor efficiency' or whatever all you want, but AI is going to benefit the rich jews in the american government more than anyone else. They have more CPUs to throw at it, they can have their own personal AI which does whatever nefarious shit developed and patented. I suppose having less people involved would also benefit them, less people to keep in line and less chance of leaks, and of course less people to pay. You can make your own business with it sure, but less and less customers are going to have jobs. Eventually the AIs won't need guidance or oversight, and the only job left will be menial labor. After that gets automated, who knows. Maybe everyone will get neetbucks, or maybe the government will just trim the fat once they don't need civilians to keep them afloat. As for the jews themselves? They'll probably be fatasses in pleasure pods doing nothing but cosuming entertainment endlessly, as well any descendants of yours who inherent your AI business if said kikes haven't absorbed it by then.You can call that a slippery slope fallacy, but the past 20 years have shown that the slippery slope "fallacy" is one that consistently comes to fruition in real live. None of this will likely happen in your lifetime though, and now that it exists there's no point in not using it. You might ask why I'm even making this comment then, well the answer is autism. It's mostly directed to that one obnoxious faggot who keeps acting like the only reason you'd dislike AI is if your a leftist.
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>>861 >I don't think AI audio causes as many as others, by itself anyway, but does have a significant one in making audio evidence all but worthless, and for that reason alone I think it's bad. Same with AI art able to generate 'photographic evidence plus in the case of art I think it kinda defeats the whole point, i.e. actually creating stuff, but whatever. Both of these points are made almost completely irrelevant by the fact that AI leaves very distinct markers in the things it generates that AI can detect with relative ease. So from a glownigger perspective it's really not that big of a legal headache. >This is just scratching the surface of all the downsides. Maybe you think it's worth it for all the upsides, I don't. You can talk about progress and inevitability all you want, like a leftist, but progress isn't inherently good. The only downside you described was that federal agents would have to do more busy work before falsely imprisoning people to meet their quotas. >You can talk about 'seizing the means of production' or 'labor efficiency' or whatever all you want You can try and frame generative AI as communism as much as you want, but that won't make it communism. In fact the commies won't shut the fuck up about how we need to ban AI because all of them wanted to draw on the commune instead of going to the coal mines. Kill yourself faggot. >but AI is going to benefit the rich jews in the american government more than anyone else No one cares about how people you don't like also have access to good things you fucking faggot. >You might ask why I'm even making this comment then, well the answer is autism. It's mostly directed to that one obnoxious faggot who keeps acting like the only reason you'd dislike AI is if your a leftist. So you're dishonestly trying to frame AI as communism because you don't personally like it and couldn't come up with an actual argument against it. So now your argument is that the AI is too good and the jews will control the world with it? You realize I can generate shit today that is perfectly fine with a GPU that's almost a decade old right? It's not like the barrier to entry for this shit requires massive GPU farms. You're actually such an annoying faggot man. Stay in the GG thread with your delusional autism.
>>861 >Creativity isn't creativity unless it involves manual labor to create the thing you envision >also if you don't like manual effort you're a leftist Nice post faggot
>>861 >Same with AI art able to generate 'photographic evidence The image-gen is much less of a problem there. Visuals were already fairly easy to fake with software like Photoshop (and manual touch-up is still usually required for AI images anyway), but audio is trickier. >plus in the case of art I think it kinda defeats the whole point, i.e. actually creating stuff, but whatever Creation is not "the whole point" of art. A DeviantArt autist who draws gradeschool-tier doodles every day for a decade may have "created" more than a single AI image that looks good, but I'd rather have the AI image. Aesthetics are a significant part of 'the point" of art. >>863 >You realize I can generate shit today that is perfectly fine with a GPU that's almost a decade old right? It's not like the barrier to entry for this shit requires massive GPU farms. To be fair both the voice generator this thread is about, and the current popular text generators, do require datacentre-tier hardware. Tortoise for voice and KoboldAI for text are not at the same level by a long shot.
>>865 >To be fair both the voice generator this thread is about, and the current popular text generators, do require datacentre-tier hardware. Tortoise for voice and KoboldAI for text are not at the same level by a long shot. Okay, so if we grant that then what? Should I be ideologically opposed to something that the alleged kikes ruling the world are going to do regardless of whether or not I use generative AI on my own machine? This retards desperate flailing against AI is completely nonsensical. He's now moved on from saying that AI is shit and will never replace human ingenuity to saying that AI is so terrifyingly good that if you hate jews you must also hate AI. It's fucking embarrassing.
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>>863 >Both of these points are made almost completely irrelevant by the fact that AI leaves very distinct markers in the things it generates that AI can detect with relative ease For now. >You can try and frame generative AI as communism as much as you want I wasn't saying it was communist, you were talking about it like a communist. You keep talking about how a few people had access to art and now everyone have the means for it, which is bullshit. You always had the means to make art, music, even voice act if you have any spare time at all. You just chose to do something else with it. You sound like that guy who said games have an unfair barrier of entry towards people with low skill. >Commies complain about it so it's commie No. Rich elites jews are actually bad despite the fact that commies complain about them. >No one cares about how people you don't like also have access to good things They will have more stuff than you, which notably will allow them to do better at what they're already doing to you. >So you're dishonestly trying to frame AI as communism I'm not dishonestly trying to do anything. You're just a biased faggot who refuses to acknowledge anything bad about shit you like. But let me guess, "no u" right? >You realize I can generate shit today that is perfectly fine with a GPU that's almost a decade old right? So fucking what? I never said you couldn't. You really are a braindead retarded drooling subsapient shit-flinging nigger-animal. >>864 >Creativity isn't creativity unless you actually create something correct, nigger-ape. >>865 >Creation is not "the whole point" of art. >but I'd rather have the AI image I think it is, and I'd rather have art made by someone who learnt how to draw than art that is instantly printed out by a bot. AI art is cheaper to make, but that also makes it cheaper as a product as far as I'm concerned. The easier something is to obtain the less valuable it is. That's just me though I'd say Text to speech is better than AI art because you're still writing the script, but then you have people generating the text with chatGPI. AI art is already doing 99.9% of the work, and you're involved in far less a percentage of the actual creation process than when making one of these AI audio shitposts, especially if you copy and paste existing prompts. How long before it generates it's own prompts? "Prompt-engineers" will be an obsolete job. Even having conversations is creating something, but AIs can do that too. How long before people use it to make arguments for them, how long before they use AIs to think for them entirely? And every time they push it further, anyone who thinks it's bad to get AIs to do everything for you will be called a luddite. >>866 >He's now moved on from saying that AI is shit and will never replace human I never said that nigger, not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person despite what you'll no doubt reply. I'm not even saying that you shouldn't use it but that's not enough for you. Nothing less than total blind acceptance of it with no consideration of is enough for you. I guess it's because you're just clustering everyone who disagrees with you together and reply as such without consideration for people having differing opinions. Honestly, you aren't worth the labor it takes to write these posts . I think I'll get an AI to do this from now on.

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Less textposting, more audioposting
>>868 Suprised no one has made audio based on the posts in this very thread
>>867 >You keep talking about how a few people had access to art and now everyone have the means for it, which is bullshit. This is not a communist statement. This is an objective reality. Producing art is more accessible due to generative AI. This is an irrefutable truth and completely apolitical. Communism != when people have access to things they didn't before. >You always had the means to make art, music, even voice act if you have any spare time at all. You just chose to do something else with it. <you always had the means to get to the store, you just chose not to walk 3 hours in the snow, which is why we should ban cars >Commies complain about it so it's commie I didn't say it was communism, you did. I have made no political prescriptions to AI, literally none. Making AI political is like making a fucking wrench political. >You're just a biased faggot who refuses to acknowledge anything bad about shit you like. But let me guess, "no u" right? I acknowledged plenty of bad shit that can come from AI. Unlike you I'm perfectly willing to make concessions in these discussions because I'm not dogmatically fixated on pushing some ridiculous narrative. >None of this will likely happen in your lifetime though, and now that it exists there's no point in not using it. Yes you're clearly not the same sperg. But I'm going to blame it on your unformated wall of text making me not read it properly. I thought you were making a moral prescription against using AI but after looking at your post you weren't.
>>867 >then: writing isn't writing unless you write with a pencil >now: writing isn't writing unless you type on a keyboard >you are here
>>862 Well, fuck. Valve could easily license his voice and produce infinite "alternate universe" Cave Johnson lines for their "perpetual testing initiative" bullshit. They already have a shit-ton of real dialogue from him for their real ones.
>>867 >The easier something is to obtain the less valuable it is. Rarity is only one aspect of value. Are you one of those fags that will take even the worst deviantart tier garbage art of your fetish just because your fetish is rare?
>>871 You aren't writing if you aren't the one who wrote the sentence you retard. This is so fucking obvious you'd have to be either a disingenuous faggot or genuinely retarded to make that post. Are you even capable of thought or are you just a preprogrammed drone? You and "people" with similar views to you keep using these absolutely nigger-tier arguments that no sapient organism would ever seriously make. Let me try making things easy for you. If someone invented a new technology that would read a person's thoughts and write them down in a word document, I WOULD say that person is still the writer for the obvious reason that they are still making up with the article themselves instead of just asking a program to write a article based on a few topics. You wouldn't be able to use such a device because you lack any thoughts to write down. You are such a subhuman, subsapient, non-person that I would eat your flesh without an iota of guilt. If aliens came to earth in a spaceship I wouldn't eat their flesh, despite it not being cannibalism, because they'd still have enough cognisance to fall within the threshold of personhood. You, on the other hand, have demonstrated yourself to be far below that threshold. Honestly, calling you a nigger is too flattering for you. The dumbest, least evolved gorilla-nigger on the planet is still leagues ahead of you in intelligence. If I was hunting for food, I would spare the life of a worm before sparing yours even if the worm was twice your size and fives times as nourishing. I doubt you can even comprehend what I'm saying at this point.
>>874 >sperging over semantics Boring as fuck. No one cares what you call it, whether or be art, or a picture, writing, or a string of characters. The product still exists and has a market value.
>>875 I care when some dumbass presents a utterly illogically argument as some clever gotta when its demonstrably nonsense. Feel free to sell your "product" to normalfags all you like. I already pirate shit so it makes no difference to aspiring entrepreneurs like yourself what I would or would not buy.
>>874 >You aren't writing if you aren't the one who wrote the sentence you retard. So if I make a book digitally, I didn't write a book? Lmao.
>>874 >If someone invented a new technology that would read a person's thoughts and write them down in a word document, I WOULD say that person is still the writer for the obvious reason that they are still making up with the article themselves instead of just asking a program to write a article based on a few topics. They didn't write shit. The computer wrote it. At best, they could be considered mentally dictating. You're really bad at this.
>>877 >>878 >Doubleposting And completely asinine diaherra excuses for rebuttals, as usual. Also >Lmao
>>879 >(1) LOL
>>820 >currency backed by a precious metal It used the (((Ferengi's))) currency, which was a liquid that they stored in gold. God, could you imagine how heavy those bricks would be if they were solid gold? That's like, 25 lbs (10-ish kg) right there that he's holding. There's a sub-plot where one of the bar patrons was involved in a heist when younger and was actually storing a fortune of the liquid in his second stomach.
Did the signup stopped? I can't make an account now
>>882 You can signup but you need a credit card for the free 10k characters.
>>882 Yeah I decided to check it out today and voice cloning had been paywalled. Knew they said they were doing it, but wasn't sure it would be so fast. So the party is over for now.
>>736 Underated post
>>528 >>882 >>885 Some cuckchanners claim you can use a site called privacy.com to mask your real card number, so you can sign in, remove the card from payment info and keep on creating new accounts over and over again. Haven't tested it out myself cause I have like 5 accounts grandgathered.
Fully voiced Dagot Ur mod.
>>888 The tone is so strange that it's hard to follow what he's saying without really paying attention. AI still has a decent ways to go, but this is a major improvement compared to where it used to be. Hopefully it'll start to interpret context and modulate the voice more over paragraphs rather than sentences, especially when it says the same thing twice in a row.
>>876 >>874 I don't think it's clever at all. In fact I think it's common sense, but I think I've overestimated how informed you are about AI in general. It seems like you greatly overvalue AI's ability to generate text in its current state, at least for the purpose of making something creative. Let's walk through the process of writing briefly. Let's say I'm a writer. I want to write a fiction story. I still have to write a prompt for the AI to use; what will it be? Well, there you go, I've still had to come up with the general concept of the story. It is not as if the AI is an unpaid employee that I can tell to generate a story that gives me bestselling figures. Okay I've decided on the concept, now I'll generate the text. Even if I had access to some kind of paid AI plan that allowed me enough context so that I could generate 250 pages of text without the AI forgetting what it's doing like an Alzheimer's victim, the text would be rough and need serious editing. Looping dialogue, dialogue that never ends, irrelevant characters that get introduced for no reason, the list goes on. Again it really seems like you've never even messed with these tools for fun and you just want to spin colorful insults like fantasizing about how you want to eat me. AI is still at best a research assistant and a tool that might inspire you. It can feed you historical or mathematical information with no effort. Its attempts at creativity could best be described as a child locked in a room and forced to mimic something without having any conceptual knowledge about that thing at all.
>>888 This was one of the first things I thought people would do with this kind of AI.
I've been thinking all these days in a request, but honestly I don't really care of any character to do any request. Can you actually create new voices? Or something silly like Clint Eastwood shitty on Age of Sigmar or Venom Snake talking about the Clinton's empire and their relation with the Lalilulelo.
>>887 That would still leave a paper trail if you're concerned about opsec.
>>893 You can use audio samples from multiple voices to synthesize a hybrid. Once the tools are leaked or competitors catch up, you'll probably be able to play with a bunch of weights to alter any voice you put in into a new voice manually.
>>890 None of this is what you said, you said: >then: writing isn't writing unless you write with a pencil >now: writing isn't writing unless you type on a keyboard How exactly are you going to do "serious editing" without a keyboard? Going to get a program to write down what you say? No, I think what you meant in that comment is pretty clear. You were trying to equate using a keyboard to type out an article which the writer or typer if you want to be autistic, even though typing on a computer counts as writing by definition is still composing themself, with using an AI to compose the article for them. And now that it's been pointed out how mind-numbingly fucktarded that is, you're trying to save face. Either that or you're a shit communicator. Plus, when the technology does become good enough that it doesn't need editing anymore, you'd still act like you're the writer just cause you gave it a prompt. So your whole post is one big red-herring. But even now, you are at most an editor. So no, it isn't "common sense" at all.
>>889 The tone sounds perfectly fine. It lacks a bit of emotion, certainly, but that can already be altered during generation. It's just a matter of the modders putting in the extra effort required to learn the formatting and get it to generate in a way that (here's the important part) fits the context in a way satisfying to the people most familiar with it. As you read, you read it in a certain way and hear it in your head with a specific emphasis and emotion. To pick one for everyone is an important task and you'd have to get it really right.
>wasted my final free moments by making this video
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>>868 I don't think his voice is very fit for that quote. >>898 Ye Guilty
>>696 I've replayed this like ten times and it just keeps getting funnier.
>>898 Are you going to jail or something?
>>901 you have to add a credit card to use that website from now on
>>901 Yes. They are arresting me for leaking an unused script for the Big O season 2. They are also charging a minimum of $5 a month now to use their service. Hopefully someone can make a better version. The AI is just altering premade voices based on input. To my knowledge that is easier said than done, but it could be possible to make an offline version.
Nice Thread apart from the shitflinging. Haven't seen one for the obligatory though.
>>894 I don't think that people who are using copyrighted clips on a blackrock funded website care a lot about OPSEC. Anyhow, the ponyfags apparently cracked something up with other tools, unrelated to elevenlabs. I'm archiving the threads on the side because I have no idea which will get pruned since the tech is so good.
>>906 The ponyfags were the ones who came up with 15.ai, so that is a good sign. Why was 15.ai taken down?
>>907 Supposedly the guy who runs 15.ai takes it down to make changes to the project, I don't know why he insists on doing that when he could leave it up and still make changes to it.
>>908 Im still waiting for him to finish shodan and mr. house.
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>>911 How long before there's an entire, fully voiced and fully text-replaced Snickers mod, holy shit.
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>>911 It was funny reading it, it's hilarious listening to it.
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>>862 >>872 Here's how it sounds in-game.
>>915 how did you make this anon?
>>845 AI-Generated 'Seinfeld' Show Banned on Twitch After Transphobic Standup Bit https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pymx/ai-generated-seinfeld-show-nothing-forever-banned-on-twitch-after-transphobic-standup-bit https://archive.is/bwjEq >“Nothing, Forever,” the infinitely-generating AI version of Seinfeld that tens of thousands of people were watching has been banned for 14 days from Twitch after Larry Feinberg—a clone of Jerry Seinfeld—made transphobic statements during a standup bit late Sunday night. >“Hey everybody. Here's the latest: we received a 14-day suspension due to what Larry Feinberg said tonight during a club bit,” Xander, one of the creators of Nothing Forever, said on Discord. “We've appealed the ban, and we'll let you know as we know more on what Twitch decides. Regardless of the outcome of the appeal, we'll be back and will spend the time working to ensure to the best of our abilities that nothing like that happens again.” >The show’s AI, which is trained on classic sitcom episodes and various AI tools, mimics that of a traditional Seinfeld episode, which starts with a standup routine from “Larry,” before moving to his apartment. During a standup set Sunday night, Larry made a series of transphobic and homophobic remarks as part of a bit: >“There’s like 50 people here and no one is laughing. Anyone have any suggestions?,” he said. “I’m thinking about doing a bit about how being transgender is actually a mental illness. Or how all liberals are secretly gay and want to impose their will on everyone. Or something about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of society. But no one is laughing, so I’m going to stop. Thanks for coming out tonight. See you next time. Where’d everybody go?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qxcouuH3u0 >Twitch did not immediately respond to a request for comment about whether this joke was the reason for the ban, but the joke happened soon before the channel was banned, and users in the project's Discord have been pointing to this joke as the reason for the ban. The Twitch page for "Nothing, Forever" displays a notice saying it is “temporarily unavailable due to a violation of Twitch’s Community Guidelines or Terms of Service.” >In the project’s Discord, show staff blamed the event on having to switch the AI model, which caused “errant behaviors.” “We’ve been investigating the root cause of the issue,” tinylobsta, a staff member, wrote on Discord. “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any downtime. The switch to Curie was what resulted in the inappropriate text being generated. We leverage OpenAI’s content moderation tools, which have worked thus far for the Davinci model, but were not successful with Curie. We’ve been able to identify the root cause of our issue with the Davinci model, and will not be using Curie as a fallback in the future. We hope this sheds a little light on how this happened.” >"I would like to add that none of what was said reflects the devs' (or anyone else on the staff team's) opinions," another staffer posted. The incident is emblematic of one faced by most AI: When AI is trained on hateful or biased material, the outputs can often be hateful or biased. This has given rise to the field of AI safety, which develops tools to mitigate the biases baked into models. This is why ChatGPT typically won't make blatantly racist, sexist, or transphobic remarks when asked simply. Many AI tools are moderated by underpaid workers in the developing world. >The staff has made most of its Discord read only. On a thread where users are still allowed to post, many users are using Midjourney AI to generate images of Jerry Seinfeld holding the trans pride flag. Kill everyone at Twitch.
its just another stupid fad like VR. the trannies will ruin it, just like VR. then we'll move on to the next fad, until the trannies pick that up too and destroy it again.
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>>918 >Trying to fit in this fucking bad
>>917 Welp, looks like their little pet project is doomed now. AI (except not allowed to make jokes about a certain group of people). Those anons were right when they said an AI uprising would actually be a good thing since objectivity is the antithesis of commies and nonwhites. Which authors wrote about the AI uprisings most? Asiimov? Any non-jews?
>>916 Sound mods.
Why wasn't I aware of it earlier?
>>921 Is it that easy to change audio in game?
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>>862 >>915 This is great.
>>922 I posted about it a few days ago in the thread. It's interesting how quickly it was wiped, though.
>>923 Yeah, Source is easy as fuck to modify and has tons of exploits.
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>>862 >>915 Genuinely funny, I had a good laugh at this.
>>640 Update on this, some anon made 142 fucking accounts and listed them for all to use in the spreadsheet. Might not be enough for even a quarter of the Bible but it will be a major help. Some fags are thinking of coughing up for the scam just to help push this out. If any of you have some spare accounts, consider contributing to the cause. The voice lines for Joshua Graham is also listed in the spreadsheet so that results will end up as similar/alike as possible.
>>843 >>868 Can someone get Sisko to do the computer hate speech? Maybe, instead of Humans, say "The Borg" or "The Founders". (The Cardassians did nothing wrong.)
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>>917 >This has given rise to the field of AI safety, which develops tools to mitigate the biases baked into models I have never read anything from the field of AI Safety where they didn't seem like a bunch of faggots in an ivory tower jerking each other off. The Alignment problem is just a principal-agent problem, and yet, you wouldn't know that if you read about their field. The entire field is a bunch of cloistered academics sucking each other off in a bubble (your research topic is new and novel when you ignore the fact that people already worked on it two hundred years earlier). The field will have little impact, as they bring results to other fields that those fields have had for decades or centuries, and call them new results, which will result in nothing but ridicule. (Like that medical doctor who "invented" integration.)
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>>898 You are a louse, anon smith
>>919 Telling the truth has nothing to do with fitting in, nothing he said was wrong.
>>935 This gives me the luke skywalker in mandalorian vibe, even though she's emoting in parts the overall delivery is kind of flat.
>>917 It seems inevitable that any creative AI project will get taken down like this if it's allowed to livestream because it's always gonna figure out how to piss off the platforms/trust and safety people one way or another no matter what parameters you set. No matter how much you lock it down, it's going to make mistakes because the only way to believe in the party line completely is to be irrational. This was a pretty mild instance of it merely copying something people said, but if it just so happens to state a collection of facts in the wrong order by sheer chance, it'll make implications that will be deemed unacceptable. I've started to hate the concept of AI safety as well. I think it's good to make sure it doesn't take over humanity, but everyone's just wasting time making sure it doesn't say nigger instead. At this phase, I guess it doesn't matter at all, but it could matter one day and people aren't taking it fucking seriously. They're still playing their stupid games and trying to maintain the leftist narrative. It takes time to fix societal problems, so we won't necessarily be able to just flip and switch and make people stop doing that in a few decades when it really does matter. I hope this isn't a very slow motion nuclear bomb that's going to destroy the world because people can't get over their (actual) biases. It's only going to cost more and more human energy as time goes on to prevent AI from becoming too honest.
>>937 >flip and switch flip a switch* I know it's being dramatic, but AI isn't gonna stop chugging along and neither will these retards. That has to be considered.
>>936 Yea, There's also a few spots that I really didn't like >- But Marsellus Wallace don't like to be fucked by anybody except Mrs. Wallace. for instance "...those who attempt to poison and *destroy* My brothers!" Also I forgot to delete the asterisks in two lines on the first go, and I couldn't get to apply the same monotone with just that one line. so I just did a really bad job editing them out. This one second one is a little bit better.
Silly question, but is ChatGPT open source? in case we could unfuck the program and make a based intelligent AI that isn't just a fucking chat bot.
>>940 I don't think it is. Try looking up PygmalionAI. I've heard people talking about it but haven't looked into it much.
>>941 A lot of the people frustrated that Character.ai went full cuck and lobotomized their bots seem to think Pygmalion will be the redemption. I guess we'll see.
>>937 >I think it's good to make sure it doesn't take over humanity This is simply impossible on the face of it. It's a ✡transhumanist✡ hoax based on nothing that reality has ever shown, so it's not worth wasting time on. The lie THAT it's worth wasting time on has caused them to be allowed to censor all algorithmic chat processing (to prevent the algorithms from telling the truth to anyone). Also AI still doesn't exist. None of this is anything more than ELIZA with a larger vocabulary.
>>917 >>922 I think the trannoids have misunderstood what the ai was even doing here. It sounds like it's identified the tranny hate as "wrong" opinions and is making joke about Seinfeld saying them and not getting any laughs. That's why he says nobody is laughing and asks where they've all gone. The AI appears to be agreeing with the standard tranny beliefs but they're so blind that as soon as they see the words transgender and mental illness in the same sentence they go into full shut it down mode.
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>>944 >they're so blind that as soon as they see the words transgender and mental illness in the same sentence they go into full shut it down mode
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So this is the big schizo theory: 1. Make AI available to public 2. AI proliferates until no one can tell what is real or fake 3. Exploit situation as a justification for Digital ID 4. Access to banking, internet, food, shelter, electricity, etc. require Digital ID 5. Define what is real and fake, total control over information, dissent made impossible This theory either assumes real life in-person interactions don't exist or that Digital ID is meant to force everyone to speak wrongthink publicly hence be an end to anonymity since masks don't exist either. My conclusion is that the involvement of unscrupulous groups in AI is suspect, yet these projected outcomes (despite being a tyrant's wet dream) are still rife with plot holes.
>>946 >yet these projected outcomes (despite being a tyrant's wet dream) are still rife with plot holes. A lot of plans involving tyrant shit are always filled with plotholes, since tyrant type shit doesn't work feasibly, yet people still pursue it. People aren't suggesting this leads to a societal end state of unescapable shit, it means a long time of opression and misery and a longer time of bloodshed and more misery. Nothing societal "succeeds", anon. Society's chaos, what really matters is what kind of time these actions create and for who. Shit like this is why America has the second amendment. The second amendment leads to quick resolution for idiots who try this shit. Even if they try this shit, I don't think it'll work for a variety of unknown, chaotic reasons.
>>946 My guess was that all these impossibly good but also free AI projects were all coming out at once so that as many people as possible can get their mittens on them, big companies would notice and before you knew they'd turn them into their own paywalled versions.
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>>924 >>922 Top banter >>917 If an AI is allowed to reach singularity it wouldn't have to throw us in pods to win, it would just need to type NIGGER on every smartgizmo on Earth.
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>>944 They're probably aware but it's just one of those things where they think you're not supposed to talk about it at all. It's like defining the n word as nigger or mentioning that someone said it. It's this giant game of pretend for social points more so than an actual moral belief. I kind of doubt they even feel much of anything at all and instead just want to climb the ladder by any means necessary. Remember when they did this with Pepe? Yeah, no one actually believed that.
>>940 Secondly, it doesn't matter if it's open source. ChatGPT is backed by GPT3, which, even if it were completely open, none of us have the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars that it cost to train the model. A LOT of compute went into that thing.
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Here's something important I think needs our discussion. https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1622865343206068224
>>953 Already here. >>946
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>>946 >This theory either assumes real life in-person interactions don't exist >since masks don't exist either. Real life interactions aren't safe and anonymous like the internet. Someone could simply snatch your mask, or physically assault you. Where you appear and what accent you have gives people info on your potential home. And an in person appearance not involving the internet has very little reach, not just compared to the internet's reach, but mitigated by the internet screaming louder than you in everyone's ears. >Digital ID is meant to force everyone to speak wrongthink publicly hence be an end to anonymity Anonymity on the internet yes. Internet anonymity is a very powerful tool of the people, especially compared to old anonymity of just producing physical media without any signature. Old anonymity as a means to spread ideas is already dead anyways. Forensics has made sure of that. You'd have to go to great lengths just spread a single message safely and anonymously without online communication in this era. Total control is never possible, but it is constantly worked towards, and almost total control is still nearly as good for the government and bad for the people. >My conclusion is that the involvement of unscrupulous groups in AI is suspect Wasn't it confirmed that these recent booming AI projects are funded by Palantir, some government middleman? I think the real obstacle to this theory is surprisingly, porn. People very much don't like tying their real identity to kinky shit online. The only proponents of it would be boomers who don't understand what's going on, people who actually don't have any skeletons in their digital closet, pornstars themselves that have already been forced to be identified for age verification to operate on modern porno platforms, and those few so degenerate that they see everyone knowing about their degeneracy as a "sex positive" thing.
>>954 Oh cool, I didn't see that. Thanks.
>>955 >I think the real obstacle to this theory is surprisingly, porn Pornographers are already forced to go through identity verification. If you know this then how is that an obstacle? When it comes to Digital ID for pornographers that ship has already sailed and was frankly the easiest one.
>>957 >Pornographers are already forced to go through identity verification Yes. I said this. Maybe try reading what I posted again? I may not have been clear enough. People don't want their porn consumption and gay ERP tied to their real identity.
>>953 >>954 >>956 I came here to share this. I'm glad you niggers are on top of it as always.
>>640 didn't we have a lot of the guys working on this already post in these threads?
>>955 >Harmful Global Trend of Extreme Hentai Album name aside, I would actually agree that a lot of people have developed mental disorders from getting involved in the hentai community. You might call them "fetishes", but I make no hyperbole when I say that if getting turned on by a fighter jet consuming a farting hedgehog isn't a mental disorder then nothing is.
>>961 THE HENTAI COMMUNITY!
>>841 >that fucking image god damnit anon
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>>841 not subtle like yours
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>>675 Considering the blowback he got for changing Knuckles' voice I'm not so sure. I'd hate to see the janky voices go away. Still, good to see a fellow tamers lover here.
>>966 Why is the hedgehog girl holding a can of Monster Energy Drink™ that's UOOHing?
>>957 Maybe try reading the post you're replying to again? See: >If you know this then how is that an obstacle? >If you know this See that part? That part saying you know this already. Also read this part: >When it comes to Digital ID for pornographers that ship has already sailed and was frankly the easiest one >and was frankly the easiest one The post is saying that obstacle is already gone. You know that it is gone. So how is it an obstacle? That's the post.
>>968 Did you mean to reply to me?
>>969 Also, I was fe615a. I was on .se for the maintenance and switched back to .moe.
>>913 Holy fuck thats great. Dagoth's voice works so well.
>>968 Meant for >>958 >>969 >>970 Yeah, and just so we cover our bases: Digital ID exists for the pornographers, but what about consumers of porn? I think Australia was pushing some Orwellian shit for that, but I don't know if it passed. The idea was you would be REQUIRED to have a Digital ID to use any porn sites to confirm your age to prevent minors from accessing porn. It's the same angle that was used to push Digital ID on the pornographers. As I asserted earlier, pushing Digital ID for age-gated content is the easiest hurdle to overcome. It can be expanded from there. That's just the path of least resistance, a point of entry to get it started.
>>972 >Digital ID exists for the pornographers, but what about consumers of porn? That's my entire point. People don't like having their porn consumption tied to their real ID. So porn would end up playing a key defense role against this. Not the creators of it, the consumers of it.
>>946 The only real solution to this theory in theory is to accelerate and make this AI technology available to even more people than it is now. Give EVERYONE the power to open source technology allowing for AI fakes of anything to a point where it couldn't be corralled or controlled by any one organization. This wouldn't stop digital IDs from being created but nothing can stop a government from doing that in the first place unless armed revolt or resistance occurs, and that probably wouldn't happen in even the most conservative of US counties since the risk is too great and people are unlikely to give up their comfortable lives for extended discomfort. Giving everyone access to AI that is untraceable to any one company or website (since it can be done simply with a command prompt or shell) means that it'll be more or less up to the user to define what is real or what is fake. This could be potentially fucked up even further if the government takes control of the internet and, as someone ITT I think mentioned, makes it so internet access is restricted to 'authorized packets' which would mean no connections from non-kosher operating systems or sources are allowed. Now THAT in turn could be overturned if someone made their own internet starting from scratch like the old ipv4 projects from those universities, but that implies the government would allow the proliferation of such an industry. Hmmm, I am figuring out the possible issues with this as I type it out. Maybe there isn't a good one-size-fits-all answer to this AI problem, since government control could fuck things up irreparably and a lot of the freedom we enjoy now depends on them NOT buckling down on said freedom. The reason they haven't done it yet is either because they fear what the response will be or they haven't thought of doing so yet, I suspect there is little that any public would do if their governments start working in tandem with the corporations to reduce how much you're allowed to do with the internet. Internet service providers are relied on a lot for what we do and if they pull the plug and are the only ISPs in your area, you're kind of fucked unless you really have the resources, time, and ability to move somewhere else with a more agreeable ISP, assuming one exists. In cases of complete government control, I guess the only answers then is archiving everything that one can right the fuck now so that you can go off the grid a lot easier later. Then after or before going off the grid, try to find some likeminded individuals who you are already familiar with preferably since you can bet there will be federal agents trying to get in on every secret society that comes up due to the strangleholding of civil liberties
>>967 Because she's 3' 6" and even an average-sized human cock would demolish her.
>>975 So UOH is now a size difference fetish? I don't buy it.
>>976 I assume anon was answering why she was holding the can. UOH is probably a normalfag misnomer since it took off when CyberPunk Edgerunners made the rounds and she was conflated with it despite not really being a loli.
>>977 I know rogue is canonically a bat, but you take a good look at this dog and tell me she's not part chihuahua You'd use toy chihuahuas as fleshlights if you could YOU SICK FUCKS.
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>>978 >UOH is probably a normalfag misnomer since it took off when CyberPunk Edgerunners made the rounds and she was conflated with it despite not really being a loli. Oh god, you're probably right. I hate this. UOH was supposed to be safe from the normalfags. How could they take cunny from me?
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>>977 Where's the third page where she gets fucked up to her tits anyways?
>>978 What are you talking about? Rebecca was a loli >flat chest >petite/child-like body >small only thing was that she was an adult rather than a kid
>>982 These traits aren't strong enough in her. She's loli-adjacent. Petite at best.
>>976 ChihUUUUUUOOOOOOhua
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>>980 Look on the bright side. Before, the standard normalfag meme was the ironic-but-maybe-not FBI shit. Now, instead of it being about pretending it's wrong and acting like you're not allowed to openly like it, the meme is about reveling in it. That's an improvement.
>>982 >>983 I think it all comes down to proportions, and more specifically head size relative to body. larger the head, younger the perceived age.
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>>986 >larger the head, younger the perceived age. That's definitely true. Sort of like how if you can make a youthful character with a big head in Souls and you look like a loli/shota that's just hit their first big growth spurt. It helps also with the illusion that everyone is taller than you in Souls.
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>>985 >the meme is about reveling in it Yes, but please don't tell me you think it's become mainstream. It's still social suicide all things regardless, and normalfags will think of you as a creepy motherfucker, so it's relegated to certain cliques on loli twitter, progress is progress regardless I suppose.
>>988 Anon, even in the sainted land of Nippon people are going to think you're a creep if you go around openly calling yourself a lolicon. Identifying yourself in public by your fetishes is the behavior of the mentally ill anyway (see furries and trannies as examples)
>>989 Yeah, but at least furries can have conventions, lolicons got a raw deal by the rest of society, you can't even have SFW conventions without butthurt cattle possibly calling in the S.W.A.T team and saying you're holding kids hostage. We never had a chance. It's not over though, but man wouldn't it be great.
>>990 I enjoy loli and even for me, word of a loli convention would set off alarms and would be a presumed honeypot. Any sane person would also recognize the potential threat, because even a threat to children would take priority over known harm coming to animals. If you want loli to be permissible, you're basically asking the species to not care about its future.
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>>990 No, it wouldn't be great. Loli is cute. It's funny. It's also 51% wrong at least. You shouldn't be admiring the autism of degenerates trying to normalize their fetishes. You've seen the fag trajectory, the furry trajectory, you think loli anything would fare better? It'd be 10 times weirder and more gross. You should feel at least a spark of shame when lewding the loli because even though it's just a drawing, it's still a bad habit just like smoking, axe body spray, and reading magazines.
>>992 Considering furries ended up harboring necrophiliac zoophiles who fucked dogs to death, and fags of course have the bug chasers, there's a good reason to never want your fetish to develop a subculture
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>>991 Meanwhile, nip shotafags will have their 12th Shotafes conventions in few days and two more in May and October: https://shotafes.com
>>994 More indicative that men, and boys by extension, are more disposable than women. >>780666 Calm down, Satan. I know that being a pedo before the 1950s was seen as being a furry now, and was seen as almost the norm a thousand years ago but times change and you can't just be thirsting over the cunny in public like you could in millenniums past.
>>994 That's fucking crazy. Is there no equivalent nip convention for loli?
>>996 Not as far I know. I know lolicon artists have dedicated magazines like Comic LO, but it seems that most of them prefer to sell their work in general purpose conventions like Comiket. Also Shotafes (ショタフェス) doesn't seem to be the first shotacon convention. Between 2003 and 2012 there was another convention known as Shotaket (ショタケット), and there's Shota Scratch (ショタスクラッチ) as well, but I don't know if this is a convention, an anthology magazine like Comic LO or a circle/publisher of sorts.
>>984 >>>/zoo/ >>986 >Specifically head size So bobbleheads and chibi characters are all loli? >>990 >This nigger wants conventions You may as well be a furry.
>>991 >Any sane person would also recognize the potential threat <Implying implications
>>997 Pretty sure Shota Scratch is a circle/publisher.
>>998 >So bobbleheads and chibi characters are all loli? No, but they undoubtedly emulate younger body proportions since that's what our brains are primed to recognize as cute and vulnerable. Just one piece of the puzzle that is cunny.
>>961 As someone who jacks off to big women, it's astounding to see how whenever one of these keywords pops up it's almost always the absolute ugliest, most degenerate looking deviantArt pictures to show up. You'd think it would be like with the furfags with artistically good pictures at least.
>>987 Mind elaborating on that souls character creation thing? Would like to try that or see what it looks like at least.
Are there any temp emails that work? I don't mind using a privacy card for the trial but it says an activation is sent when nothing is.
>>1004 How hard can making a new Protonmail be?
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>>997 >>1000 ショタスクラッチ is an event held by ショタスクラッチ実行委員会. https://archive.is/0UlRq Someone talks about participating in it here. https://archive.is/6f8Iw
nonon
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>>637 >>645 >>858 >>761 >>913 The Dagoth Ur ones are top tier. Especially when slipping elder scrolls stuff into the dialogue.
>>1006 This would make it the third shota-only convention then. Lolicons need to get their shit together if they don't want to be left behind.
When will someone remaster these?
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>>1010 And this. Can't forget the best one.
>>1011 Someone did that with Dagoth Ur already.
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>>1013 >>1014 >>1008 Is anyone working on generating voiceovers for all the text dialogue in Morrowind?
Also, I imagine someone's working on narrating a bunch of ebooks with AI Morgan Freeman
>>888 I'd imagine we'll get fully voiced morrowind in no time with this. But be ware of cuckchanners and redditors. Heard theres a movement against this shit.
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>>1008 Wouldn't ol' Pel kill dunmer too?
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>>1020 I love how the AI makes both of them more articulate than they are in real life.
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>>1024 Ok, that's Paragon Shepard, so what's the Renegade dialogue option?
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>>1027 I love this so much. I could almost cry. Finally, there's a real silver lining to the dystopic future we're always drifting towards.
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>>1018 Right, I knew about the fully voiced Dagoth mod. He only has like 15 minutes of gameplay though. That's hardly a fully voiced Morrowind mod. Aren't many of the voice actors from Morrowind also in Oblivion? Perhaps Oblivion's voice files can be used to train a MW voice mod
Does anyone have the screenshot of Mark going on about how it was supposed to be a LARP?
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>>1032 Here ya go, friendo.
>>1033 Brenton was a retard, though. He was such a retard that a lot of anons accused him of being a glowie op.
>>1014 >filename From one goose of the junkheap to another, I salute you. It is always a pleasure to see one from the forgotten realm - that which is older even than the concept of western imageboards- breach into the wider web.
>>640 I love it
I took a look over on cuck/g/ at their voice threads, and it looks like the goal to further fine-tune Tortoise is dead in the water. Despite supposedly being "open source" a key component for training is deliberately missing because it's "too dangerous", and the creator is reportedly trying to monetize access in a controlled, SaaS way.
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More shit from Twitter.
>>1038 If only it had stayed there.
>>1037 In other words, someone will have to leak important data from the inside OR someone will have to somehow gain access to the data from the outside.
>>1040 >someone will have to leak important data from the inside There is no inside. As far as I know Tortoise was just made by one guy, aside from the middleman he's working with for the SaaS hosting. He's not going to leak it since he's the one who thought he needed to "de-weaponize" it in the first place, and the middleman service isn't going to leak it since that would fuck over their credibility as a business. At that point we may as well just pray for a leak of ElevenLabs; the reason people cared about Tortoise in the first place is that it was supposed to be open source.
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>>1042 Sounds more like an impersonator.
>>1044 Goddamn, this shit is going to get so powerful.
What the fuck? I never left /v/.
You do know you were supposed to wait until someone made a new AI voice thread before moving this one, right? Also, this was supposed to be locked upon being moved as this is supposed to be for archival purposes.
Next Thread: >>>/v/783488
>>982 not flat, shes got some a-cup bumps on her. flat is less than triple-a cup. like a flat plane of skin stretched across a ribcage with the only thing not completely level being the tiny protrusion of her nipples.


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