>>26060
I want to say many things because currently you are doing spiritually like a blind retard who is hitting his head into a slab of concrete because he thinks that is what spirituality about...
>I am realizing why daily meditation is important
But this sentence makes me unsure if I should say anything. This is the important part anyway. You can figure out the rest if you finally understand pain instead obsessing over it like those retarded autistic kids who hit themselves on the head until their parents do what they ask for.
>>25737
>but no self pity here i am good at handling pain.
You are extremely bad at handling pain. Before reading your post my body started to twitch out of disgust. You are literally broadcasting with your entire being how bad you are at handling pain. You know... those Buddhist monks who burned themselves to death in protest didn't broadcast how much pain they are in. They broadcasted an extremely elevated peace of mind. They were at such a higher state of consciousness that the flames burning them did nothing to it. The flames don't hurt if you are free of your mortal attachments. Those who are hurt by the flames are those who are chained into their decaying body with their horrible attachments and karma.
>And not a liar which is very important to me!
Currently you are trapped in an extremely maligned perspective.
>I dislike hope and faith because they lie so much
You don't dislike hope and faith. YOU DISLIKE LIES. Hope and faith does not lie. LIES LIE. Hope gives HOPE and faith gives faith...
This is what meditation is about. To see reality how it actually is. A state of mind where lies cannot warp nor affect you anymore. Where you are unaffected by the lies of the spoken word, where you are unaffected by the lies of the senses, and where you are unaffected by the lies of the mind. You cannot lie to those who see beyond the lies. Because even if anyone lies to them then they are telling the truth to them. They know why you lie and how you lie to them.
Currently you are listening to a million lies and warp it into a strange truth that forces your body to feel a slight ecstasy at it's pain threshold.
>Though i do wonder if that line of thinking isn't also an atlantean demon.
Your current perspective is a mix of several hundred ancient spirits who lurk in the darkness. Currently you are scared shitless because this pain is the only thing that keeps you sane.
I have seen your lives "shapeshifter". The life you lived between this world and the others. You have crawled out of multiple hells and heavens and you had extremely harsh masters because you never understood the rules and customs of any hells and heavens where you lived. You were tossed out like the unloved and ungrateful child that you were. Do you know why you love pain so much in this current phase of your awakening? Do you have any idea why???
Because many of your old masters were beating you into submission until you learned what you have to do. They did it because they loved you. They had hopes for you. They wanted to make you into something useful, something akin to a pet or something akin to "family". I do not know which happened when. But the feeling is so strong, it still permeates through your being.
I wanted to tell about this part of you in the early parts of this thread. But never knew how to bring it up.
I will try my best explaining your current issue... with the help of this Kali image.
All those faces and arms on her body are different types of egos, intelligences and attachments. The head in her hand is the demon she defeated and drunk her blood because whenever she cut the demon with her sword the demon multiplied. Kali defeated the demon by drinking his blood instead of killing him with the sword.
All those egos, all the blood that made the demon run rampage was drank by Kali. Kali at her full might had to awaken Shiva (consciousness) and that is when Shiva calmed her down. Kali represents universal energy and the material. Kali accepted the demon as her own, but even she required external help to calm down the rage of the demon even tho the demon was within her veins now. She had to find her own higher intelligence to calm down.
Do you know why you see cement and other weird material objects in your body? Because you think that is what reality is about. Reality is this concrete jungle you live in. This is why you are ingesting solid and hard to refine energies. You are unable and unwilling to break it down further. You are willing to kill yourself over and over yet you refuse to break these attachments, these "techs" these... I don't even know where you found many of your energies at all. I can barely make out 20% of the current energies you are siphoning up from your surroundings...
Currently you are trying to shapeshift into materialism so you can "understand it". All that materialism does is a self destructive attachment cycle. Yet you think that life is about awakening... or evolution into those gross forms for some reason. You say "it's about dying fast" but you cannot let those parts of you die that keep you in your current cycle of suffering. And no... I am not talking about the suffering of your life or existence... I am only talking about this strange suffering you picked up since posting on /fringe/... also about everything else. I fear that you are mixing up your newfound suffering/attachment with awakening by accident.
You will have to let go of these attachments and find more refined energies. You said you believe everything "higher" is a "lie". Well it is... but you misunderstand why. To be truly "higher" it needs to be more refined. Break it down. Not your organs but the attachments, Break it down into nothingness. Break down everything that feels solid. Find dharma and find salvation with it. Don't make up excuses all the time. It helps no one.
>but they require a certain "Cutting your own throat with love" mindset that i am not sure how to occulate.
Look at this pic of Kali. Whenever you cut your "throat" you cut a head that is merely part of that ego necklace of yours that used those "wares/tech" back in your old incarnation. When you shifted into a new being your were cut, killed and beaten into a new form. That new form was awarded with a new "tech". To shift you have to switch mindsets. You have to kill those small and old egos of yours. What you need to achieve is the ultimate godhead aka Kali aka your true shapeshifter form. Kali has that ego necklace, the cycle of egos, but she is the one wearing the egos and not the egos themselves. Currently you are stuck in the cycle of egos. It is not even the "war of the self". It is more akin to the "misunderstanding of the lesser egos".
And you will have to find the very form that can calm this raging energy of your shapeshifting. Shiva (consciousness) is at the feet of Kali in this picture, you have to awaken your own energies (Kali) to be able to awaken Shiva (true consciousness).
Meditate and find it.
>Essentially i am terrified of relaxing
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Being a shapeshifter means that you are free to shift into anything you desire. Yet you desire to shift into the most miserable person on this board. If you cannot control the way you shift then you are not a shapeshifter. I am starting to realize you don't understand relaxation either. You say you are "dying fast" all the time... but when people die in peace they have an extremely relaxed expression. Do you know who have strained expressions after death? Those who fear death... You are not terrified of relaxation. You are terrified that the "next death" might be the "real one". Shapeshifters are not bound by form, they shouldn't even have a concept of death at all. Do you even know which part of you is terrified? Which part of you tenses? Which small part of your "self" is making this shit up? Which wages this whole "war" against itself? Does it even exist? Or only this erroneous tension exists? Is there even a "self" behind this tension? Or this tension is a self perpetuating cycle of some internal misunderstanding of your being.
>small spirits feed me well enough to restore myself.
Those small spirits are closer to your true nature more than anything you described so far. They know the true energies your being runs at while you are doing everything else to test their endurance and willingness to serve you.
They are the only ones with hope and faith in you. They are the only parts of you that are unwilling to hear the lies you are telling to yourself and still do their best to keep you alive.
The light behind the head of Kali. The universal energy. Ever thought what it's made of? Why those little spirits can "find it" effortlessly while you are doing everything but relaxing?
Unsure if my post helped at all. I have hard time talking to people who know no faith nor hope.
>With pain you sit at the bottom contemplating existence i wanna go there even deeper.
There is no pain at the bottom of existence. As long as you can feel pain then you are not at the bottom. Pain is a lie perpetuated by the senses and by the mind. As long as there is pain then there is suffering. If there is suffering then you are still within the clutches of mortal existence. It is nor the summit nor the bottom.
>>26051
>Not trying to sound aggressive i am just frustrated but i am okay.
And I don't know if I sound aggressive or not, but I have hard time wording my post while feeling this frustration of yours. It's like you want to burst into a million small flames and forget about this world forever, yet your attachments don't let you.
I am starting to realize you misunderstand your own "attachments" and the very energies that flow in your veins as well.
You will have to find a place of nothingness, a far away vantage point that will let you see your life and your current issues in a clearer light. Currently you are in the haze of a trashfire that darkens the skies and your perspective. You have hard time understanding your own sight. You will have to realize it's not bound by the senses. It is a feeling, a feeling you forgot yet still remember. You mentioned how you have to feel things instead of "seeing" things before. But you will have to feel without "feeling" to understand what is going on.
You fell into some strange deterministic trap of self delusion. I don't know if I can help you out of it, because it feels like you don't want to walk out of it at all.
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Sorry if this post sounds hurtful or anything unpleasant, but I realized some days ago that I have extreme levels of self hatred stored within myself because I have hard time helping others. People are too delicate and hard to help, and seems like I am feeling bad about this fact since eons... First I thought it is a hatred which is aimed at my own inability to help others... but I am starting to realize I am angry because I cannot solve specific types of karma with brute force and intellect alone... I too need to meditate more to see things more clearly. It's not easy to see things the right way... takes practice and dedication...