crap thread sage check my dubs

Everything involving bayo 3 is just a total shitshow

>>240806 Better than the last two thread themes no-dubs-man. So when is Mark buying this action game-of-the-year? At least Kamiya and co. didn't fully commit to the troonpill like Daisuke Ishiwatari did, witch time'd some eternal anglo cunt, and made a few journalists and yurifags cry. So just enjoy Bayonetta getting railed and having a punk tomboy daughter with naive angel mode off.

>>240808 >punk tomboy That thing is an abomination, don't give it so much credit If that thing was my daughter I'd give it away

>>240809 t. I'm bad at parrying

>>240808 agreed, have a gondola >>240809 ciri best vidya daughteru

>>240810 Wat No, it's just ugly, not gonna pretend like it's not to own the journos or whatever

>>240812 Fair enough. Her fused form with Cheshire though...

>>240812 I bet you'd rather have her blue lipstick on your dick than fucking Nico or getting plowed by V, unless you're a faggot. They just needed to alter Lady's jaw in 5 and she'd be fine. Sad about how they did Trish

>>240812 I jokingly called her Nero's long lost twin sister, which explains why she dresses like that and uses a katana, considering she had an absentee dad.

>>720666 Next Awful Hospital chapter when? >>720456 I've been burned so many times by so many games, communities and companies that I really don't care that much about vidya any longer, I mostly just pirate whatever seems kinda fun, play it to its end credits and wait for another game next month. It's hard to give a shit about anything at all when products are either A) bad on some fundamental level (who the fuck decided to launch Jojo ASB R with that shit of an online mode) or B) poz'd for the sake of killing off the older generation of fans in favor of the funko-pop addled ones. So far the only game that hasn't had this happen to it is the Advance Wars series because fans literally ripped it out of Nu-tendo's grip and made an online version, knowing full well they might be obliterated by the nip lawyers also made them much less drama prone and with plenty of fall back options. Tiny Wars too if you like Days of Ruin better. >>720428 M O R T I S

>>720359 CIA is apparently in hot waters after having predicted a coup in Russia for the x-th time. >>720552 >so unless you have a large group of friends who will make this THE GAME you play for years to come, just forget about fighting games. Half the magic of these games was showing up at places and being part of the spectacle, now that is gone, everything is fake and literally gay. Agreed. Nowadays it's either Flavor of the Month or a game with a toxic fanbase. There's a reason why so many people stick with playing old CnC and TF2 over switching to more modern shit, and it's not because of the better gameplay.

>>240815 I'm pretty sure she was based on him. Funny how Kamiya, the original creator of DMC, ended up copying Itsuno.

>>240807 Even the gameplay?

>>240811 I still prefer clementine. >>720711 It was a spooky ghost!

>>240816 Surprisingly, i didnt get as M O R T I S'd as in chapter 2, got the best ending though, i hope theres a sequel.

>>240816 >(who the fuck decided to launch Jojo ASB R with that shit of an online mode) It's not as though Namco are the only offenders for that. Nips are complacent and don't take online play seriously be it for fighters or just fucking Steam games -- if it weren't for Corona-chan scamdemic lockdowns, they would've never accepted Rollback netcode.

>>240823 4th word in the tweet

>>240823 teeth look sus

>INSTAGRAM >Users: 1.4 billion >employees: 45 >TWITTER >users: 395 million >employees: 7,500 Day in the life of a Twitter employee. So... how was YOUR workday?

>>720428 >>240816 >>240821

>>240826 >twitter engineers are poos Explains so much.

>>240813 There is a fused form?

From that article posted last thread: https://archive.ph/TO5xg https://archive.ph/uDGPq >“When the gamer identity is core to who you are as a person, that seems to reflect what we call toxic gamer culture, tends to reflect more exclusion than inclusion — so things like racism and sexism and misogyny,” research director Dr. Rachel Kowert told Vice Media. >In 2019, it was revealed by the Anti-Defamation League that one in ten young gamers between the ages of 13-17 had been exposed to white supremacist ideology. According to ADL research, far-right extremists use gaming communities as a hunting ground. Communities such as Steam and Discord are allegedly popular with white supremacists. LOL ADL >“Gamer communities represent a double-edged sword,” the study noted. “On the one hand, they may provide a sense of connection and purpose for individuals who suffer from loneliness and insecurity. On the other hand, they may expose gamers to hateful speech and social toxicity that can increase their susceptibility to extremist propaganda.” >The study found that players of “Call of Duty” were more likely to be racist and misogynistic than those who played “Minecraft”. Call of Duty is more competitive than Minecraft. Of course more naughty words are gonna get spoken.

>>240830 People really need to redefine racism since just because I call people niggers doesn't mean I hate them. I just think they're a bunch of lazy ass dumb niggers

Using waifus as brand advertisement should be considered an internet war crime

>>240829 At 23:30 you can see them shamelessly referencing DMC5: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Fg411h7HW/?p=16 **Along with Luka and Bayo coincidentally going to hell together earlier in the video leaving Viola behind like Dante & Vergil did to Nero, no funny double slap though ** Also, STOP BEING SO MISOGYNISTIC YOU GAY GAYMERS THEIR REACTIONS ARE TTLY VALID: https://archive.ph/LJiHV

>>240833 Wow, that's a lot of cancer, unsurprising from reddit. I can only imagine how many of them are trans pretenders if they're not full grown legbeards. Since Operation Max Revive, how about we get Acid Man to take his reddit account for a spin by dropping some links in the GirlGamers subreddit before seeing what can be done with KiA given the drama splitting them in two.

>>240833 >We're getting an all new GamerGate "ethics in journalism" Still living rent free in their heads after all these years.

>>240832 Being told to pity Microsoft is grounds for a punch in the liver.

https://archive.ph/jARkr Found Mark's new waifu, courtesy of Disney Also PayPal are being fags; it looks like they're going with their $2500 fine for "misinformation" despite backtracking on it earlier: https://archive.ph/iaaP6

>>720214 Last time I've been there it seemed like the demographic housed batshit insane women that think men are some type of bizarre monstrosities incapable of feeling human emotions, lack empathy or tools to be used and disposed of whenever convenient. An unholy love child of /r9k/ & twitter. >>240816 Someday anon, someday. Perhaps sooner then we expect.

>>720214 Feminism, like every -ism derived from Marxism, is not about making sense. Do not try to make any sense of what any feminist says, especially since they're women. Look for actions, motives and short-term rewards. It's about controlling you and getting what they want. In this case, if Bayonetta is sexy, she's drawing attention from males. For women, this detracts male attention from themselves. They also think that males operate like them, so when a male attains a certain standard, they think he can never go below it. In this case, if males see Bayonetta, they think they won't be satisfied by any other woman that doesn't look like Bayonetta. So their only percieved option (or the easiest one) is to nag you until you stop looking at Bayonetta, ban her, or unsex her.

>>240833 >viola cant barely get any less flat even fused absolutely state of women not created with a present father

>>240826 That video is so fucking stupid that it just has to be a hoax of some kind, I just refuse to believe this is real.

>>240827 Beautiful >>240822 What puzzles me is, the original All Star Battle release on PS3 was so shit that Bamco had to work for an entire year to bring the game up to speed, not including shitty DLCs. They knew something like that was bound to happen from experience, yet did nothing to fix it. >>240826 Don't forget that Musk hates remote work. Him acquiring Twitter will be the most chaotic neutral move of the year. Speaking of, I hope he won't do anything stupid to the Japanese side of Twitter, which is honestly the only good part about that site.

>>240826 Dilbert was right, work is only meeting and execs trying to force you to live in the company. >>240838 I just hope we get back on track with finding Fern's baby DOG and Dr. Phage gets some more screen time.

>>240826 They deserve to get all fired lmao, "working"

>>240827 Amazing work.

>>240839 >Feminism, like every -ism derived from Marxism, is not about making sense. This is a really silly take, congratulation on getting indoctrinated by the modern radical left into thinking they're related in any way. The original modern feminists were Christian fundamentalists who opposed the debauchery of the Bohemian lifestyle of the 1910s and 1920s. The true left wing, progressives of the time were mostly conscripted peasants and intellectuals, also certain branches of the army (the younger one at least) who wanted sweeping social reforms to ensure that as they came back from WWI they'd be granted gibs for life instead of ending up unemployed and being forced to accept pittance from female-lead and not government sponsored, I should add charitable institutions. Intellectuals and the Soviets in the 50s and 60s realized that they could infiltrate feminist groups to convince their leaders that the only way to fight back against supposed patriarchal oppression was to join up with minority and radical groups in their battle against the then conservative governments. Granted, companies were in cahoots with said intellectuals because they originally figured they could devalue the price on most jobs by simply adding more and more immigrants and women to the workplace (compare the standards of living throughout the 21st century as more people join any workplace) and now they're getting bit in their butt for all the subversion they performed. I think I read on 8chan Prime a very interesting post about how modern feminism is basically a Soviet weapon "on the loose" as they didn't survive long enough to activate it in ways that would benefited them. Basically feminism up until the 50s was meant to give women an equal status in society by giving them a stake in said society, any other battle they fought afterwards was done just to benefit companies and radicals, and now radicals are in control of a rogue ideology that mismanages women's rights to force them to work longer hours, mate much later in their life or not mate at all and creates outcasts in women who disagree with that vision.

>>240846 >and now radicals are in control of a rogue ideology that mismanages women's rights to force them to work longer hours, mate much later in their life or not mate at all and creates outcasts in women who disagree with that vision. Thats just a fraction of what they do,they weaponize the entirety of it to push their own narratives,but thats not all, they use of the fact that most don't see it this way, the Hand of Ignorance brainwashes companies from small to big size to think they should accept it and follow the trend,effectively fucking with them on long term and allowing even further infiltration and eventually absorption of them

>>240847 They don't even pretend to fight battles for women. They could be talking about how shit African negresses have it what with all the genital mutilation and forced marriages, or they could push for more effective policies in regards to women's health, like removing taxes from products designed for their periods or even guarantees on job security once a woman goes into labor. Instead they looked at the Iranian protests and concluded that trimming a bit of their hair would show enough support.

>>240846 I was referring to feminism in our current time, since that's what's relevant. About feminism being a soviet weapon, that was the default modus operandi of KGB operations in foreign countries. Yuri Bezmenov said that they would target specifically any groups that were discontent with the status quo, stuff their brains with communist propaganda to make useful idiots that would be easy pickings after the revolution disposed of the enemy country defenses.

>>240848 But they unironically believe that they do,thats why i like to think there is a "Invisible Hand of Ignorance" where society is pushed through trends and most get brainwashed into certain beliefs without questioning or even reflecting if what they are doing is truly good, the further these beliefs and trends uses of radicalization of "fightning for the greater good", while also pushing of ideas that make the individuals think they are "special" "different" and creating even more of narcissist people that will absolutely hate truths and objectivity because it will hurt them.

>>240832 Careful what you wish for anon; they might use precious lolis as brand advertisement.

>>240846 >Feminism is founded by Christian fundamentalists >Most of the suffragettes, who were upper-class women that were indoctrinated under Frankfurt School, were actually Marxists >One of their main figures, Simone de Beauvoir, a feminist, was a Marxist

Comic from last thread for those who missed it

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>>240854 that man needs a bigger bed, I feel bad for the girls sleeping uncomfortable on the floor

>>240856 left nipple

>>240856 You can get banned for racism & NSFW on cuckchan.

>>240856 Man this is cringe cuckchan's left nipple

>>240856 >site that banned and word filtered nigger on it's /b/ board >site that banned all discussion of the 5guy scandal. >free speech I finally understand how anons felt with chanologyfags back in 2010

>>240830 >“When the gamer identity is core to who you are as a person, that seems to reflect what we call toxic gamer culture, tends to reflect more exclusion than inclusion — so things like racism and sexism and misogyny,” research director Dr. Rachel Kowert told Vice Media. Gamer culture, at least pre-2010s, was, paradoxically, inclusive through exclusion. Like with the Internet as a whole back then, people being dicks to each other was more or less the MO, but at the end of the day, the people that were "in" on it realized that it was generally playful banter. Ultimately, being able to take the piss out of each other was their form of bonding. It wasn't till idpol bullshit where people started taking legitimate offense to this, and started to police it as a result. Ironically, this helped bolster extremism more than anything. Not having that outlet, as it turns out, has less-than-ideal results. >“Gamer communities represent a double-edged sword,” the study noted. “On the one hand, they may provide a sense of connection and purpose for individuals who suffer from loneliness and insecurity. On the other hand, they may expose gamers to hateful speech and social toxicity that can increase their susceptibility to extremist propaganda.” While technically correct, the push towards more extremist philosophies goes both ways. Of course, this article wouldn't dare mention the other half of it, the part with people going hardcore troon/anti-White/anti-Male, etc.

>>240861 >inclusive through exclusion Natural male bonding >people started taking legitimate offense to this, and started to police it as a result Feminine behavior, started in 2007 when the net wasn't a boys club anymore

>>240856 How is possible for 4chan to still live on the reputation they themselves ruined so many years ago? Still, that's good to keep 8moe hidden and let them eat all the shit.

>>240863 Because no one that talks about imageboards outside of imageboards actually uses imageboards. Cuckchan is more heavily moderated than reddit is.

>>240856 This needs a Ben Garrison accuracy edit with 8chan replacing cuckchan

>>240865 Or just another panel with 8chan towering over everyone else

>>240863 Normalfags pov of over moderation comes from Jewgle and places like Tumblr/Twitter which still have a shit ton more moderation then 4chan comparitivily, hell i'd say theres less moderation on 4chan then on altchans like 8kunt, sleepy and 8moe (since you fags enjoy witch hunting boogiemen so much)

>>240867 >Normalfags pov of over moderation comes from Jewgle and places like Tumblr/Twitter which still have a shit ton more moderation then 4chan comparitivily Lol no they don't. Cuckchan bans you for saying nigger outside of /b/. It's one of the most overly moderated sites on the internet. You can get away with way more shit on mainstream sites because you can be tucked away in your niche corner of those sites. On cuckchan everything is visible to everyone and there is no real partitioning. So you call someone a nigger on /v/ and you catch a ban.

>>240865 Your kidding yourself is you actually believe modern 8chan has anything to do with freespeach these days. This isn't a freespeach platform it's a hurd mental platform. No one in their right mind would call places like the dailystormer a freespeach platform at most your like them in that you exorcise freespeach not uphold it to the letter. >>240868 >Lol no they don't. Cuckchan bans you for saying nigger outside of /b twitter just straight up bans you for saying nigger. also the amount of times 4chan actually bans someone for saying nigger is very low, they will do it eventually but i see faggots saying it all the time anyway. The way imageboards work naturally conteract alot of censorship simply with how fast posts can be made and seen. other platforms if you make a post it doesn't get immediently seen and often theres some bs algorythem bullshit behind it which could just straight up shadowban you since it saw a word on it's wordfilter. Being able to post something != uncensored. not being able to be seen = censored.

>>240869 >He actually goes to cuckchan

>>240865 >>240866 And then another panel after that with the Giantess stepping on EVERYBODY and the footfag mutant coooming

>>240869 Come back to me when my vpns work on cuckchan :^)

>>240861 >It wasn't till idpol bullshit where people started taking legitimate offense to this Those were women. Never let women in men's space.

>>720851 >Artificially Robotics or genetical engineering?

>>240830 Ashkenazi Domination Legion hates those who are competitive? Say it ain't so!

>>240839 Women were a mistake, it'd be better if we were like Yoshi and there were just men who laid eggs that would be fertilised if another man sat on them

>>240832 I don't hate you, Bing-tan. Who I HATE is M$. >>240842 >Don't forget that Musk hates remote work. It's not that he "hates" remote work, it's that he sees it a waste of money to have this huge office, for people to work at and that the company is paying property taxes and utilities for, and no one is using. >>240846 >The original modern feminists were Christian fundamentalists who opposed the debauchery of the Bohemian lifestyle of the 1910s and 1920s. WRONG: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FfNibO4aTDY >>240856 >Cuckchan >Free speech <Where you can get banned for Avengers leaks <And saying "nigger"

>>240856 REMEMBER TO SUPPORT STONETOSS AND BUY HIS NFT'S! https://www.flurksnft.com/

Speaking of Cuckchan. Did you all hear that Hiroshima got his own Isekai?

>>240870 It's a simple thing you can do right now, unless your scared like the normalfags who are too afraid to visit a fucking website? If you want to find truth from an unpartisen perspective you need to leave the fucking circlejerk and see what is really happening. >makes argument about muh freespeach <surprised when someone ecorsises it Afriad you're only proving my point Information comes from all over and the web isn't completely homogenized by jews yet. You just need to learn to seperate yourself from a crowd. >>240872 Maybe don't use one that publicily lists all it's servers on an index? I'd recommend finding a vps host and setting up a cheap open vpn server

>>240878 What a fucking waste of trips.

>>240876 What would they smell like, I wonder ha ha

>>240874 Robotics, as they are easier to program, control and predict. It is better to have a "boring" predictable world than one where your efforts can be destroyed by a hysterical parasite.

>>240879 When will Mark get his own Isekai?

>>240884 >ONE DAY, AN ANON >GETS SUCKED INTO MANN'S PLUMP BAGEL >AND GETS WARPED INTO THE CAKE DIMENSION >"What is this place...?" >"DON'T TOUCH THAT STEAM DECK YOU'LL DIE!" >"Oh my mistake. This steam deck is totally harmless" >"Jewcy Kingdom, here we come!"

Archive of previous bread https://archive.ph/y2rWZ

>>240885 Ngl, I'd prefer to see the silly antics of Mark over Hiroyuki

>>240880 >Says the cuckchanner, who all live in a bubble.

>>240869 Make a GamerGate thread on 4chan and let me know how it goes

>>240889 Hell, try and make a LOL thread there and see how it goes.

>>240889 >inb4 they actually allow it It's not like moot is in charge, might as well try it, report back

>>240888 >>240889 >>240890 Christ, why all this butthurt? He isn't claiming that 4ch is some bastion of free speech or something. He's merely pointing out that certain claims being made about it are untrue, and this place doesn't fit the bill either unless you've been so browbeaten that you haven't gotten Rule 8'd before, which only proves the point.

Netflix covered up Rouge the Bat.

>>240892 >you haven't gotten Rule 8'd before There is no Global Rule 8.

>>240892 >8moe is /v/ Kek

>>240895 Uh, yeah?

>>240893 Just for reference to anyone, this is the most covered up Rouge is in any of the games or official art. <The two games are Heroes and Rivals 2

>>240892 You new here?

>>240893 She's still pretty cute

Paypal brought back their $2500 disinformation fine again. I guess the last backlash wasn't enough for them. https://archive.ph/vdImU >>240880 Why. do. you. type. like. this. >>240885 >"Jewcy Kingdom, here we come!" I don't like where this is going. >>240893 I mean it is netflix. What were you expecting.

Why >>240900 Do >>240900 You >>240900 Post >>240900 Like >>240900 This?

>>240901 You can have more than a single sentence on a line anon. You need not be such a faggot.

>>240900 Finally, we're gonna see gapepal die in our lifetime.

>>240892 Outlander, who is ignorant of our history, what do you want?

>>240902 It's possible the fag is either used to posting on Leddit, or is posting from his phone. However, even when I phonepost, I never do that.

The only places worth visiting in halfchan are the smaller niche boards, like /wg/ has good talks and wallpapers. And the stable diffusion thread in /g/. /v/ is twitch chat regurgitation. /vg/ is game discord circlejerk. pol and k are completely fed posted. You can find some good threads in smaller boards even not pertaining to the board itself.

>>240902 What if i keep posting like that? Are you going to call me newline and make me another boogieman?

>>240903 I still wonder why would anyone use Paypal after so many years and so many shit they pushed.

>>240904 Uh huh.

>>240907 Anon what has got your ass so bothered. Regain your composure before posting again. >>240908 Yeah paypal has been pulling crap for so long that I am shocked it finally took the misinfo fine to make people say enough is enough.

>>240910 Someone insulted cuckchan so he now has to prove his newfaggotry

>>720933 I am disappointed in you anon. What a waste of repeating digits.

>>240906 >/v/ is twitch chat regurgitation Don't tell me it's gotten that bad, jesus

>>240913 The slower threads have some actual talk, but most new threads are "is ps5 over bros?" . I don't really browse the board. The longer threads have some good talks, usually after first 100 replies. But the signal-to-noise ratio is really bad. You'll have to skim over lot of shit to get to the meaty part of a thread. That's why smaller boards are much better.

>>240892 Rule 8? I'm a 2016 election tourist.

>>240915 it was a rule that was partially made because of avatarfags back on 8chan proper to deal with 4am and other threads but it's implementation is a overily general catch all rule that can be used and has been used as a catch all for posts moderators don't like.

>>240892 >guy who shits on GG and gamers >the event that was literally censored across cuckchan and briefly killed /pol/ >and redpilled many people and gamers on media tactics >thinks cuckchan is a place of free speech nah, this is like when journos screech about reddit being white supremacist

>>240877 >>240852 >>720861 Are you guys like, legitimately retarded? The Woman's Christian Temperance Union was started in the 1870s. Das Kapital wasn't even like ten years old and socialism was just getting started as a theory. You might as well say that Amelia Earhart was a communist spy.

>>240838 They are EXACTLY a female /r9k/ with 1-to-1 mapping, as most of them actually came from cuckchan's r9k. They call moids (how original), have "why are scrotes so ugly and smelly and hate us women?" threads, followed with "nona you're doing fine you're actually a lesbian". And behind the strong face have "i am kissless hugless 24yo virgin i should kill myself", "how do I hide body scars", "will I ever get loved nonas?" talk, and normalfag hate. And Tumblr female topics. And their tranny hate threads are comically childish like a fifth grader trying to call trannies names.

>>240918 All women are communist spies I'm taking the piss.

>>240918 >socialism was just getting started as a theory look up Jeremy Bentham.

>>240838 >>240919 Are you guys talking about lolcow.farms? It's like the terf side of /leftypol/, twoxchromosomes and /r9k/ merged together in imageboard format, lot of angry pussy there, femcels they call it

>>240842 >Japanese side of twitter I hope he does. There's no reason why people should get preferential treatment if they break TOS, just because they're from a country that allows whatever twitter bans.

>>240853 guy or girl

>>240921 The guy who was left on display in a university and whose head has been routinely stolen? What about him? >>240923 Frankly I'll take preferential treatment for some over terrible treatment over everyone, but I guess it'd be good to throw the nip twitter artists out of that cesspool and back on Pixiv or maybe some new platform.

>>240877 Also, I know about the topic of that video, but it's hardly the commies' original idea. Like anything, they stole the idea of shared womenfolk from the French Revolution.

>>240925 Nip artists need to go somewhere else thats not pixiv

>>240923 If he "loved" humanity, he'd be trying to pull the plug.

>>240927 Such as? :^)

>>240923 I'm interested in his focus on advertising and even uses the term "advertising platform". One thing I've been thinking about for a while is how Google and Facebook currently have a near monopoly on Internet advertising which gives them significant control over the movement of money on the Internet. Most sites get their funding through advertising, so banning a site from Adsense can be devastating. What if Elon plans to build Twitter into more than just a social media site, but uses it as a launch point for a new ecosystem of tech services outside the other big names? A Non-Google advertising platform that can be used in place of adsense, maybe even a billing service to compete with the likes of Paypal. After all, Elon cofounded Paypal over twenty years ago, selling it was how he made his first billion. There's a lot of potential here, I'm cautiously hopeful that he can pull it off.

>>240925 >guy left on display in a university >what about him Look closer, unless you're blind Utilitarianism is the father of postmodernism and by extension collectivism (the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, actions should be taken for the benefit of the collective), and created many concepts for welfarism and advocated heavily for women's rights, decriminalizing homosexuality, being an advocate for extreme hedonism, inventing social credit, and other societally destructive things, being a very influential figure Marx and Engels looked to him for inspiration in their earlier days and basically refined and adjusted his shit for themselves

>>240929 fantia? There is several smaller sites to migrate to

>>240918 >The Woman's Christian Temperance Union was started in the 1870s. https://infogalactic.com/info/Woman%27s_Christian_Temperance_Union <In the United States during the temperance movement, the WCTU was divided along ideological lines. The first president of the organization, Annie Wittenmyer, believed in the singleness of purpose of the organization—that is, that it should not put efforts into woman suffrage, prohibition, etc. This wing of the WCTU therefore was more concerned with how morality played a role during the temperance movement. With that in mind, it sought to save those whom they believed to be of lower moral standing. For them, the alcohol problem was one of moral nature and was not caused by the institutions that facilitated access to alcohol. <The second president of the WCTU, Frances Willard, demonstrated a sharp distinction from Wittenmyer in how she felt the WCTU should be involved in the temperance movement. As president between 1879 and 1898, Willard had a much broader interpretation of the social problems at hand. She believed in "a living wage; in an eight-hour day; in courts of conciliation and arbitration; in justice as opposed to greed in gain; in Peace on Earth and Good-Will to Men." This division illustrated two of the ideologies present in the organization at the time, conservatism and progressivism. As a result, the Eastern Wing of the WCTU supported Wittenmyer and the Western Wing had a tendency to support the more progressive Willard view. And, want to know the funny thing about Willard, you know the one pushing for Woman's Suffrage: https://archive.ph/gSIIK <In 1893 she proclaimed herself a Christian Socialist. https://archive.ph/xziTQ <Drawn into a movement called Christian socialism, Willard became a close colleague of Episcopal priest W. D. P. Bliss and an associate editor of his Christian socialist newspaper, The Dawn. Showing the influence of the British social critic John Ruskin, Willard’s growing stress on Christian socialism put her at odds with various factions in the Woman’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU). The chapter highlights the culmination of her feud with J. Ellen Foster over Willard’s endorsement of the Prohibition Party. This feud led Foster in 1889 to create a new woman’s temperance organization, the Nonpartisan WCTU. So, yes, it's always tied to Socialism!

>>240924 Cat

>>240933 Christian Socialism is a different concept from what the commies wanted, because it tried to conciliate welfare spending and pacifism in opposition to the more hawkish sentiment of the late 19th and early 20th century. Granted, yes, they're technically both tied to Socialism, but their ties are about the same as Jesus is to the Jewish cult. >>240931 That's an interesting theory and I see your point, but the commie view evolved to be completely different. Commies re-criminalized homosexuality - which the first socialist government allowed - and their welfare existed only so far as the single person was useful to the continuation of the state and communist junta. Plus, as you pointed out in your picture, seems to me that this chap had more of an interest in the whole utopia part, with free press and security through surveillance as the ultimate goal, whereas the commies just kept socializing the people (as in turning the private sector into the public sector) to justify the existence of the public sector rather than for security purposes. I wouldn't even call either oldschool nor modern commies "Utilitarian" since their view requires all the people to form an amorphous mass of human-units, rather than just selecting the most efficient person to work the most efficient job (which would require a system of rewards that the communist worldview cannot hope to achieve). And now that I've said "amorphous mass of human-units" I just got reminded of this game.

>>240926 >they stole the idea of shared womenfolk from the French Revolution. The same revolution that solidified the framework for ALL Socialist revolutions: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=08vGjqKVIsQ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ehuWcpJmOc8 Much of the Socialist ideology began with fringe philosophers and groups such as Hegel: https://infogalactic.com/info/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel And, the Jacobins: https://infogalactic.com/info/Jacobin >>240935 >Christian Socialism is a different concept from what the commies wanted No, it's not, Socialism is a bastardized form OF Christianity: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fqj-MKG9SnU

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>>240935 >Commies re-criminalized homosexuality - which the first socialist government allowed Because they served their purpose and were discarded, which is how Socialist government and thought operate. >and their welfare existed only so far as the single person was useful to the continuation of the state and communist junta Again, see above. >seems to me that this chap had more of an interest in the whole utopia part That's the entire goal of Socialism. Their "utopia" is Communism, and Socialism is the process by which they achieve it. This isn't some secret or theory, G. Edward Griffin was reading literal Socialist literature to the public, and this was explicitly explained: https://rumble.com/vc4pxn-g-edward-griffin-more-deadly-than-war-the-communist-revolution-in-america.html >with free press and security through surveillance as the ultimate goal, whereas the commies just kept socializing the people (as in turning the private sector into the public sector) to justify the existence of the public sector rather than for security purposes That's because Socialists understand that achieving their "utopian-state" requires different tactics depending upon the sector that they want infest, occupy, and overthrow.

>>240935 >commie view evolved to be completely different first, you were talking about socialism to begin with, not communism the people who enacted communism vs theories of communism and socialism are 2 different things, academic communists or communists here are not the same as Stalin for example, and the academics would ironically be some of the first against the wall in a communist regime or revolution the people who enacted communism were far more practical than the academic theorists, which is why communism stayed alive for a lot longer, they were aware that certain social programs and policies would undermine their grip and control over people That doesn't not make it part of the leftist axis that contributes to the overall structures of these systems, communism was enacted differently in different parts of the world, just because they didn't tolerate homosexuals because of the leader's problems either with them as a matter of disgust, or as a matter of undermining their state, doesn't mean that communism doesn't generally extol such virtues, at least for a certain stage until people actually seize power and implement things as they see fit Communism is basically socialism without the mask of prettiness and feel-good bullshit >utopia No, that's a dystopia that he paints as a utopia, but yeah, theorists are all about pie in the sky bullshit compared to the cold realities of their ugly theories in action. Welfare is an early form of wealth redistribution, not as extreme as what happens in communism with full-on asset seizure and state control, but no shit its not, socialism is basically an earlier, primitive form of communism >I wouldn't even call either oldschool nor modern commies "Utilitarian" since their view requires all the people to form an amorphous mass of human-units, rather than just selecting the most efficient person to work the most efficient job (which would require a system of rewards that the communist worldview cannot hope to achieve). what? I'm saying that their beliefs and what they actually do are different because of the reality of individuals, you are correct though, that's what happens in communism and socialism, there is little to no meritocracy, its all nepotism and corruption, but that doesn't mean the beliefs aren't important. Bentham's social credit is quite literally similar to what China uses, there is nothing there about security or anything as a pretext, dunno what you're on about there. >free press no, he might call it as such, but what he really wants is are essentially agents who act as "tattletales", based on that social credit system. These socialist types are massively self-interested, even the theorists are still, ironically, likely massive liars, since truth doesn't matter in a utlitarian framework. Never take anything at face value from a socialist or communist, regardless of what they either believe or claim to believe.

>>240931 Utilitarianism says the most moral action is the one that leads to the greatest happiness/preference-satisfaction/etc. (depending on variant) for the greatest number. Do you think communism is the economic system that leads to the most happiness? Is it communism that results in the fewest mass-suffering/death events like famines? Is it communism that lets people best fulfill their preferences? Is it communism that creates the most beneficial technological innovation for future generations? If not then why portay it as an implication of utilitarianism? Communists might have used it as justification but so have plenty of anti-communists. Anyone saying stuff like "it might seem unfair that the CEO makes billions of dollars while you make minimum wage, but having incentives like that actually leads to much more prosperity overall while communism leads to disaster" is making a consequentialist/utilitarian argument. If anything communists, and to an even greater extent SJWs, tend to be quite averse to utilitarian arguments nowadays. Communists tend to be much more focused on complaining about supposed economic unfairness or the evil of the rich. Occasionally they might claim their system would lead everyone to be better off, but everyone says that, and it's less convincing after the history of communist governments. Meanwhile SJWs tend to be the polar opposite of coldly doing the calculations and then sacrificing the few for the many, like BLM claiming that a handful of black people per year being wrongly shot is so important that it warrants policing pullbacks resulting in thousands of additional murders per year.

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>>240940 >the most moral action is the one that leads to the greatest happiness/preference-satisfaction/etc. (depending on variant) for the greatest number In the long term or the short term? >Do you think communism is the economic system that leads to the most happiness? Is it communism that results in the fewest mass-suffering/death events like famines? Is it communism that lets people best fulfill their preferences? Is it communism that creates the most beneficial technological innovation for future generations? If not then why portay it as an implication of utilitarianism? Because you fail to understand what these nuts believe! Think of it like the Vulcan phrase from Star Trek, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." They don't care about a "couple million" of individuals suffering because they're goal is the long game of "saving" everyone. And, in the process of "saving" the entirety of human kind, a couple of sacrifices are excused because it helps to make the process "better" for everyone else. Not to mention the fact that ALL' Leftists buy into a Hinduistic form of spirituality believing that people can somehow reincarnate because man, according to Leftist, is just a shard of a sleeping God that has yet to awaken to the fact that he is God. The reason you don't understand this is because you're STILL thinking of these people as a political ideology or an economic theory, meanwhile they're everything BUT. You have to stop looking at it from the political aspect, and start looking at it from the religious aspect.

>>720996 He's saying they believe its not terrible to kill people because they'll just come back anyway or they did them a favor.

>>240940 >he took the system at face value >he didn't read the post naivete is quite a drug isn't it? I suppose you think communism is about equality too don't you? Are you really so dense? Utilitarianism claims to looks to the collective benefit of the most people, communism proclaims to look for the benefit of the working people, aka the majority, the common person. Utilitarianism is a completely leftist belief system that led to communism. You just saw the word "happiness" and thought "isn't this the perfect belief system, communism sucks so why are you saying that utilitarianism is related to communism?" You haven't looked towards the roots of communism at all >economic unfairness You realize where wealth redistribution comes from, right? They conflate their pet social problems with humanity as a whole to claim that it is something objectively evil and detrimental, and therefore deserves to be eradicated. >Anyone saying stuff like "it might seem unfair that the CEO makes billions of dollars while you make minimum wage, but having incentives like that actually leads to much more prosperity overall while communism leads to disaster" is making a consequentialist/utilitarian argument. No, its fucking not. The utilitarian looks to the ends, not caring about the means. >eanwhile SJWs tend to be the polar opposite of coldly doing the calculations and then sacrificing the few for the many, like BLM claiming that a handful of black people per year being wrongly shot is so important that it warrants policing pullbacks resulting in thousands of additional murders per year. Bravo, you've realized the reality of individuals and the things they cannot bring themselves to throw away. Those types of communists, as I said if you bothered to read my posts, are not the same as people like Stalin. Those are the people who would be up against the wall once communists take power, but in the interim, they are used to destabilize society and develop sympathies and brainwashing towards communist and socialist ideology in the population. You also fail to realize that welfare is in direct contradiction with your own statement, yet was made by utilitarians and consequentialists, it really makes you think eh? You are hung up on the words without understanding reality and actually understanding what's been going on. Communism didn't come out of nowhere randomly.

>>720996 >Huh? See: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fqj-MKG9SnU And: https://infogalactic.com/info/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel Hegel is the guy who "Created" the cult that we currently understand as "The Left". The short version of his ideology is that each human exists as a shard of God. And, what exists as the devil is civilization and institutions. So, for the past 250 years, the "goal" of the "Left" has been to destroy civilization and institutions, as civilization and institutions (And, "whiteness" by extension) is all evil, for the purposes of humanity coming together and all universally awaken to our collective Godhood as one united Earth that is God. And, that in the process of achieving this, every terrible thing that happens to man is justified because we'll all be reincarnated since we are just a shard of a sleeping eternal God, that the purpose of history is to use and then proceed to discard and reabsorb all influential persons, and that going through the societal process of mixing together anything and everything that anyone ever thought or experienced will create a solution that is the perfect society by which the sleeping shards of God that man is finally comes together and becomes perfect. Reading this as is, itself, is undoubtedly looney to hear, which is why I keep linking the videos, because they go step by step explaining how this two and a half century monstrosity has come into existence.

>>240944 >You are hung up on the words without understanding reality and actually understanding what's been going on. Even then, you might as well throw the dictionary out the window because the definitions the Socialists and the baizuo use are NOT the definitions by which everyone else uses. The most infamous example of this is Winnie constantly spouting how West Taiwan is practicing ['Insert political term] with "Chinese characteristics".

>utilitarianism is THE precursor to communism/socialism >one of the core principles of leftist thought is the belief in reincarnation >fucking Hegel "created" the Left Now I remember why I only take anon at face value roughly half the time.

>>240947 Hey retard, where do you think "the ends justify the means" and Saul Alinsky's shit came from? What is welfare? What does socialist policies claim to do and desire? What is postmodernism? What did the father of utilitarianism believe? Who did Bentham influence, look at his beliefs and ideas. These all connect to utilitarianism and consequentialism. Hegel also influenced Marxism, I won't say he created the left or all his ideas were adopted, but he was an important figure in the development of leftism. It might be hard for you to understand that there are many different kinds of subgroups under the broad umbrella of leftism itself, many leftists are atheists for example, but that doesn't make the spiritualist hippies not leftists.

>>240945 Trips wasted on boomer conspiracy bullshit.

Is blue archive censored in the West?

>>240812 >this is just the closest thing to tradcon in the shitty alternate trooniverse she comes from

>>240950 >blue archive The Korean gatcha?

>>240942 If they think it saves everyone then that belief is the problem, not thinking that the way to morally evaluate actions is based on their consequences for people. How many people are going to say "I think communism will save everyone, but I'm not a utilitarian so I oppose it anyway?" Is it more than the number of communists who say "Rhetoric about capitalism having 'better results' is just a way for the rich to justify hoarding all the wealth"? >Not to mention the fact that ALL' Leftists buy into a Hinduistic form of spirituality believing that people can somehow reincarnate because man, according to Leftist, is just a shard of a sleeping God that has yet to awaken to the fact that he is God. This is obviously untrue, some random person you dug up having a weird belief does not mean "all leftists" believe it. But if it was true, wouldn't the problem be with the religious belief rather than with utilitarianism? >>240943 It definitely wasn't either utilitarianism or leftism that invented ideas like "it's [the shapeshifting shill of darkness] them because they'll live again in Heaven and this action best saves their immortal souls". >>240944 >The utilitarian looks to the ends, not caring about the means. Yes. When the anti-communist says "look at how bad the consequences of communism are", that is looking to the ends. When the communist says "it's unfair that the rich have so much money, especially when some people are poor and homeless" that's looking at some idea of "fairness" rather than the overall consequences of each economic system. >You just saw the word "happiness" and thought "isn't this the perfect belief system, communism sucks so why are you saying that utilitarianism is related to communism?" I actually personally favor Average Preference Utilitarianism over hedonic utilitarianism. >You also fail to realize that welfare is in direct contradiction with your own statement, yet was made by utilitarians and consequentialists, it really makes you think eh? Welfare isn't synonymous with communism. Utilitarians who support welfare think that, unlike communism, it benefits those who need it at relatively small cost to everyone else. Having some form of welfare is very popular, even on the right, so if you think welfare is bad you should probably focus on discrediting that rather than trying to discredit Bentham by association.

>>240953 >that's looking at some idea of "fairness" rather than the overall consequences of each economic system. I remember my investment platform has some category of ETFs called "outcome oriented" or something. It's not about equal opportunities but equal outcomes.

>>240953 You fail to understand, you are arguing against utilitarianism itself when you point to the failed ends of a utilitarian, a utilitarian would never accept that because it would mean discarding utilitarianism itself.

>>240953 >When the communist says "it's unfair that the rich have so much money, especially when some people are poor and homeless" that's looking at some idea of "fairness" rather than the overall consequences of each economic system. Again, you misunderstand them. Marx and his follows don't look at the nature of the "rich" and the "poor" as a matter of "Fairness". They look at it as a matter of "freedom". That "capitalism" is an "unfree society" because it demands that people constantly produce funds to pursue their ventures. Look at the Left today demanding the "freedom" to not get shot buy a gun and using it as a justification to enforce gun control. >Welfare isn't synonymous with communism. Yes, it is. It's a redistribution of wealth. In fact, Otto Von Bismarck compromised with the Socialist in Austria to implement the first welfare program. >Having some form of welfare is very popular, even on the right With RINOs, yes. Everyone else wants to yank the programs altogether: https://odysee.com/@johnstossel:7/classic-stossel-makers-vs-takers:5

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>>240953 >[the shapeshifting shill of darkness] Obviously I was talking about using religious beliefs to justify killing people and got caught in a Luciano filter. >>240954 >ETFs called "outcome oriented" or something Those just have downside-protection or something, not really related. >It's not about equal opportunities but equal outcomes. Utilitarianism doesn't care about equality, it cares about total happiness/preference-satisfaction. Though it can sometimes imply some level of equality via diminishing returns on consumption. So if you're buying a superyacht and other people are starving, utilitarianism says "food is cheap and a superyacht is expensive, meanwhile a bunch of people avoiding starvation provides more happiness than 1 person being a bit happier with a superyacht instead of a regular yacht". But utilitarianism doesn't object to someone like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos having a bunch of money intrinsically, almost all their money is investments anyway and it might say that investing the money in Amazon warehouses or advancing space-travel and electric-car technology is actually a good use for those resources in the long term. Furthermore, utilitarianism definitely doesn't support shit like affirmative-action in medical school like the "equality of outcome" people do. Under utilitarianism the economy isn't about equalizing racial groups or individuals, it's about producing things (like medical care) that satisfy people's preferences, and sacrificing the quality of the work being done so that black people feel better about their statistics is obviously not net-positive. Even if an economic system results in people wasting resources on things like superyachts, utilitarianism can support that system if the ways to change it would be worse overall.

>>240958 Without the big yacht at the yacht club or the private jet, millions of people working at amazon wouldn't get a 5 cent pay raise and billions wouldn't have physical and virtual things delivered :^)

>>240957 Not sure if I'm starting to feel hope or I'm just drunk.

>>240958 >utilitarianism is what I want it to be, not what it is by the people who created it and believed I've got a "that's not real communism" to sell you

>>240958 >Though it can sometimes imply some level of equality via diminishing returns on consumption. That's equity. > So if you're buying a superyacht and other people are starving, utilitarianism says "food is cheap and a superyacht is expensive, meanwhile a bunch of people avoiding starvation provides more happiness than 1 person being a bit happier with a superyacht instead of a regular yacht". That's welfare and Socialism. > But utilitarianism doesn't object to someone like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos having a bunch of money intrinsically Yes, it does. > almost all their money is investments anyway and it might say that investing the money in Amazon warehouses or advancing space-travel and electric-car technology is actually a good use for those resources in the long term And, once that use ends, both can say good bye to their wealth. > it's about producing things (like medical care) that satisfy people's preferences You just contradicted yourself. You can't have a health system that "satisfies people's preferences" because you'll have to have doctors that don't criticize fat people or witch doctors as a result of it. > and sacrificing the quality of the work being done so that black people feel better about their statistics is obviously not net-positive Yes, it is. It's either in the extreme of the patient completely dictates how they are treated, or the government dictates how people are treated (And, punish them if they don't fall in line.

>>240830 >Call of Duty is more competitive than Minecraft. Of course more naughty words are gonna get spoken. I think minecraft has a older demographic than call of duty.

>>240805 Bayonetta original voice actress looks like always looks like Lindsay Ellis aged up to 5 years of alcoholism. I’m still convinced Lindsay got pregnant and had an abortion for film school credit will come out as TERF now breadtubers throw her under the bus.

>>720164 Hooray! Now whites get to pay to feed and clothe and house this nigger for the rest of his life!

>>240965 It won't be very long if he stays autistic in prison for his past crimes against children.

>721049 Nothing I said is terribly different from what Bentham believed. He wasn't a communist, he wrote on economics and was apparently generally laissez-faire, even if he was also supportive of some things like welfare for the poor. But in any case, when it's a moral philosophy based around the fundamental idea that the morality of actions is based on what consequences they will have, of course it will give different results based on what you think those consequences will be. Apparently Bentham supported the idea of creating full-employment through monetary policy, which economists today generally regard as a bad idea. That doesn't mean you have to support full-employment to be a utilitarian. Bentham himself would probably stop supporting it if he was still alive and keeping up with the economics literature. It's a way of viewing morality, it was never a specific set of policy prescriptions. >>240962 >You just contradicted yourself. You can't have a health system that "satisfies people's preferences" because you'll have to have doctors that don't criticize fat people or witch doctors as a result of it. Only if the preference to not be criticized is bigger than the preference of the patient and his family that he not suffer and die from the health effects of obesity.

>>240952 Yeah. For that matter, is there any waifu gatcha that hasn't been censored in the West?

>>240846 >you're silly for accurately describing communist doctrine Am I going to be banned for proving you wrong, or am I allowed to write the post eviscerating your bullshit?

>>240968 I think there was one which is only censored in china.

Disney CEO doesn’t believe animation is for adults >Chapek said: "I always say that when our fans and our audiences put their kids to bed at night after watching Pinocchio, or Dumbo or Little Mermaid, they're probably not going to tune into another animated movie. They want something for them. >"I want to respect legacy and what this brand is, but at the same time, I know that we may be even more precious about what's Disney than the consumer base. >"If the consumer base has more elasticity than we've traditionally had in defining what's Disney, we probably ought to listen to the audience, which means we have more degrees of freedom than we probably thought." https://archive.ph/b3sSK Disney boss doesn't believe animation is for adults but believes in showing gay sex and tranny mutilation surgery to kids children at public school. >Gotham Knights vs Arkham Knights Comparison == >Video Highlights the Significant Differences Between the Two Gotham Knights finds itself in the Bat’s shadow in a new comparison between Batman: Arkham Knight and WB Montréal’s latest title == >Gotham Knights finds itself in the Bat’s shadow in a new comparison between Batman: Arkham Knight and WB Montréal’s latest title. >Following the story of Batman’s death, WB Games Montréal’s Gotham Knights launched worldwide on Oct. 21. With Batman out of commission, a new wave of heroes must stand up to protect Gotham City and become the very saviors that the city needs. >It’s safe to say there was much excitement surrounding this game as it would be the next Batman game following the epic culmination of Rocksteady’s Arkham trilogy. >However, it seems like the hype hasn’t met some fan expectations, as a new comparison video aims to highlight an apparent graphical disparity between Rocksteady’s swan song, Batman: Arkham Knight, and WB Games Montréal’s latest entry. >travels through Gotham in WB’s take just to highlight the game’s muddled brown textures and lack of atmospheric tone despite weather conditions being the same. >They then go on to showcase more comparisons between both titles by driving around in the Batmobile vs. the Batcyle and traversing the city. https://archive.ph/dFOy3

>>240971 <oy vey goyim; this isn't for adults >explicitly puts sex jokes and trannies and faggots in the content <yes, goyim? what of it? Oh well, lol.

>>240950 This from a year ago says they had to censor the global version due to "external requests". Possibly because of Apple/Google app store requirements? I don't know whether more information about that came out or if more stuff like that has happened. https://archive.ph/vxcCL

>>240967 >Bentham himself would probably stop supporting it if he was still alive and keeping up with the economics literature. I doubt it because then it would just be "That was real Utilitarianism". >Only if the preference to not be criticized is bigger than the preference of the patient and his family that he not suffer and die from the health effects of obesity. Who determines who get's "preferred" treatment, and which preferences are considered over others? >>240969 Do it.

>>240974 >Who determines who get's "preferred" treatment, and which preferences are considered over others? The Sovereign, of course. Who else would do it, you braindead lolbert?

>>240975 >The Sovereign, of course. How is the Sovereign chosen? Is he elected or is he a monarch? If the former, who votes in the elections? Is there a specific profile that any potential sovereigns adhere to? If he's a monarch, how is that person chosen? What's the process by which someone becomes a Sovereign? What happens if the Sovereign is rendered indisposed? What is the Sovereign is wrong? And proven to be wrong repeatedly?

>>240974 >>240975 >>Who determines who get's "preferred" treatment, and which preferences are considered over others? >The Sovereign, of course. Who else would do it, you braindead lolbert? This sounds like an endorsement of Plato treating society as an organism.

As in, the philosopher-king is the head and every other part of society is structured as the head orders, with no caste movement.

>>240978 Isn't that an oligarchy?

>>240979 I think it's the intellectual oligarchy equivalent of "I'll be the boss one day too!" There is also no need for multiple kings, any candidates would probably be sent off somewhere to waste away, save one.

What I mean is everyone would support such a thing until they roll "sewage worker in a one meter pod" for the rest of their life.

New 'Call of Duty' game has you killing civilians at Texas-Mexico border >Players seemingly instructed to point guns at Texans. The new Call of Duty entry exploits rhetoric about border security and terrorism. >The launch of the most recent entry into the Call of Duty Modern Warfare reboot series has proved to be successful, at least by PC player standards. But a recent review from gaming news site Kotaku has made light of the video game's single-player story that has you committing what would be considered war crimes at the Texas-Mexico border. >Early on in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II, the story takes you to a fictional Texas border town to track down an Iranian terrorist being sheltered by a cartel after he stole U.S. missiles. >The game has you take part in an operation as a U.S.-backed special ops team joined by a colonel with the Mexican Special Forces. In the mission, you are forced to take part in violence that Kotaku says, "... feels uncomfortable even for a game." >The game forces you to shoot at people climbing over the Texas-Mexico border wall, claiming they are escaping cartel members, and then deescalate an encounter with American border town residents walking out of their homes by pointing your gun at them. >The player is eventually put in a situation where they may shoot armed civilians in their own home during a tense encounter after the special ops team barges in. >Later in the same mission, a group of Texas law enforcement agents show up to the scene, one of which is wearing a cowboy hat and says, "... it’s hard to tell you boys apart from the cartel." >A reminder, one of the special forces members is Mexican. The Kotaku piece then points out that if you shoot the police, it will fail the mission with the message, "Friendly fire will not be tolerated." >Another mission later on in the game has you sneak through a Mexican town while U.S.-backed private military contractors you previously partnered with can be seen and heard executing dozens of civilians for living in a cartel-dominated area. >The game attempts to paint the actions of the military and the U.S. with some cynicism, according to Kotaku, but it's veiled by glamorized depictions of warfare. >The Texas-Mexico missions also come at a time where Texas GOP candidates are bolstering their campaigns on border security, and migrants are being shot at the border. >Call of Duty also plays on Trumpian rhetoric that terrorists are coming into the U.S. through its southern border. Texas Sheriffs from border towns gathered for a press conference with GOP leaders earlier this year to claim that immigrants crossing the border is an "invasion." >The Texas Tribune reported in 2016 that apprehensions at the border that were related to any sort of potential terrorism were low. >However, Gov. Greg Abbott's border security overhaul, Operation Lone Star, has asked President Joe Biden to designate cartel members as terrorists. To date, Abbott has spent $4 billion on Operation Lone Star, adding $30 million in July. https://archive.ph/SUW7R

>>240974 >Who determines You determine, just like you determine everything else about your morality. Ultimately you're in charge of what morality you follow or if you want to obey a moral system at all. Preference utilitarianism just provides a guideline, that the most moral action is the which has consequences which best satisfies people's preferences. I consider it generally preferable to hedonic utilitarianism because sometimes people value things besides happiness/lack-of-suffering and I think it's good to take that into account. >preferences are considered over others? The preferences you think are stronger. If you don't know you can try asking, like how Quality Adjusted Life Years are calculated by asking people questions like "would you rather live 3 years but be blind or 2 years but you can see?" Of course, since people usually know more about their own preferences, this can provide justification for letting them make decisions about their own lives outside of extreme cases.

>>240983 >you determine >each man determines their own morality genius, I can't see this going wrong at all Where's that anon who's trying to summon the memeteor when you need him, goddamn

Modern Warfare 2’s ‘Borderline’ Mission Is The Latest Outrage >It’s always interesting to see what offends or upsets people on the internet. There’s no shortage of controversy and outrage to be found, and more often than not it’s contrived for attention or clicks (though not always, of course). >Kotaku’s review of the Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 single-player campaign brings up some of that game’s ‘controversial’ moments: >A later mission has you literally shooting people climbing the United States border wall in Texas. Here, you’re playing as Mexican special forces tracking down cartel members who are wrapped up in the overarching narrative. >These are, technically, the “bad guys” you’re shooting, but the gross imagery is still there. You are shooting at people climbing a border wall. >And the United States-Mexican border wall of all places. How anyone thought, regardless of the narrative wrapping, this is in good taste is beyond me. >This Texas level, “Borderline,” doesn’t stop there. Not only does the game literally ask you to “de-escalate” potential standoffs with armed American civilians by raising weapons at them. >You do end up having to kill civilians who are armed and think they stand a chance against fully suited special forces. Then, when the cops show up to racially profile you (a cop in a cowboy hat literally says to Mexican special forces “it’s hard to tell you boys apart from the cartel”), if you shoot them, it’s game over: fade to black with a warning that “friendly fire will not be tolerated.” Mhmm.” >This is curious. For one thing, you shoot cartel members who are just returning from the American side of the border over the fence. Not immigrants. >You’re playing as a Mexican Special Forces operator and you gun down bad guys who just smuggled a terrorist onto American soil. Bad imagery? I guess so. >I thought it was more interesting to see just how easy it was for people to scale the wall, personally. I also enjoyed just how much Spanish language this section of the game includes. >There has never been this much Spanish or this many Mexican characters in a Call Of Duty campaign before, but this increased diversity and inclusion seems to have gone unmentioned by the gaming press, which is odd. >As for shooting the armed civilians, this only happens after they draw their guns and start firing. It’s either shoot back or be killed. In other scenarios, killing a civilian will result in a fail-state and restarting at the check-point. >At least Kotaku notes that you’re playing as Mexican Special Forces in this mission. Over at Polygon, they make the de-escalation bits an entire blog post and they don’t even get the details correct. >Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 launches Thursday, but its campaign is playable right now for anyone who pre-ordered it; and it’s getting dragged pretty bad on social media for this awwwwwwkward quick-timer event in an early level. >Apparently Task Force 141 is raiding a trailer park, and NPC Cletus comes out to tell the soldiers the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is respected in this household. >The player is then instructed to aim down sights at the civilian, who gets the hell back inside.”So many details are wrong in this paragraph it’s almost humorous. >First, this is not a ‘quick-timer event’ (which involve pressing a key or button at a specific time or before a timer runs down) it’s merely pointing—but not shooting—your gun at hostile civilians who think you’re a criminal trespassing on their property. >(You are trespassing but you’re not a criminal). Second, this mission doesn’t involve Task Force 141, a multi-national elite force comprised of characters like Ghost and Captain Price. >You play as a Mexican Special Forces operator under the command of Colonel Alejandro Vargas. The two operators cross the border as they pursue a terrorist named Hassan who is being smuggled by heavily armed cartel goons into the United States. >Third, the NPC is not named Cletus. Apparently in pointing out how it’s bad to de-escalate a situation like this involving civilians, Polygon feels the need to mock those very civilians for some reason. >Peculiar. I guess that the diabolical act of living in a trailer park in Texas is grounds to be mocked. We searched online for actual training documents and/or tactics that police (or any armed paramilitary service) use to de-escalate a volatile situation with civilians, whether they are suspects of a crime or not. >It didn’t take very long to find several such documents, and none told police professionals to do what Sgt. Maj. Rodolfo Parra does in those clips.” >The Mexican Special Forces operators are neither police nor “paramilitary” of any kind. These are highly trained elite soldiers and members of an actual army. >They are absolutely outside their jurisdiction here, true, but doing so on behalf of CIA operative Kate Laswell. Soldiers in urban environments often use the threat of violence to de-escalate potentially dangerous or hostile civilians. >And yes, even police will sometimes point a gun at someone who has a weapon in an attempt to get them to put the weapon down. Hopefully that doesn’t lead to shooting and the threat of shooting does the trick. And we’ve seen this in plenty of movies that were not deemed controversial at the time. >I’m honestly not sure how Polygon or the many other people who are criticizing this scene think it should have been handled differently since nobody actually offers up an alternative. >Bizarrely, Polygon quotes the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s Journal of Police Negotiations. But “The officer de-escalating the crisis should also avoid speaking too loudly, which may cause further anxiety and agitation,” is entirely unhelpful in this scenario, which is not about resolving a crisis but rather capturing a fleeing terrorist and the heavily armed cartel gangsters who are protecting him. This isn’t a police negotiation, Polygon. >In the mission you’re essentially in a war-zone. You’re pursuing heavily armed combatants through an urban area and don’t really have time to stop and chat with angry Americans waving baseball bats at you. >Pointing a gun at them seems to do the trick in relatively short order. Obviously that’s not going to work, or even be desirable, in totally different scenarios. >Then again, the Polygon piece was written by someone who clearly didn’t play the mission and it shows. Others, who tweeted clips of the scene, have left out all context, leading many commenters on Twitter and elsewhere thinking it’s police-related—unaware that you’re playing as Mexican soldiers pointing weapons at American civilians—an interesting and subversive twist given that we almost only ever see the opposite in film or video games, where American’s do the same thing in foreign lands. >Perhaps some interesting debate could have stemmed from this mission with a little context and a less trigger-happy impulse on the part of the media to generate outrage. Alas, that does not seem to be the case. Much more fun to create a controversy than to discuss or analyze a video game mission and what it’s actually trying to say. https://archive.ph/WNUJQ

>>240983 >You determine, just like you determine everything else about your morality. Ultimately you're in charge of what morality you follow or if you want to obey a moral system at all. That's the definition of anarchy.

>>240971 He says this while every Pixar movies flops and stuff like Primal and Anime gets more and more popularity. Hilarious

Battlefield Game Director Asks Fans Map Layout & Location Preferences; Frostbite Getting “Much Needed” Upgrades >While EA has confirmed that a new Battlefield game is in development, which will come with a full-fledged campaign, it still hasn’t been revealed officially yet. During this development phase, it looks like the new heads of the franchise are making sure the fans are heard. >Over on Twitter, Battlefield Game Director and co-creator of the Halo franchise Marcus Lehto has posted a question asking Battlefield fans their map and layout preferences. >Hey #Battlefield players. Question about locations, which are expensive to build, along with well designed map variety. Would you prefer more maps and more variety from large to small layouts in fewer locations or less variety in layouts but more unique locations >Answering fan queries on Twitter, Lehto also confirmed that the Frostbite game engine developed by DICE is getting some “much needed upgrades.” >For reference, the first iteration of the Frostbite game engine debuted back in 2008 in Battlefield: Bad Company. It was part of the franchise’s selling point, as each new Battlefield game touted a new Frostbite game engine upgrade. >Since then, every mainline Battlefield game has been running on the game engine ever since, as well as most of EA’s first-party games, too. You can check out the list of games running on Frostbite right here. >Regarding the maps, I’d personally want more variety even if they’re based on the same locations. I mean, if it’s an urban map, even if they are based in the same location, it doesn’t have to play and look the same, which is what’s important. But then again, that’s just me. What are your thoughts on this? Sound off and let us know. https://archive.ph/hWPov

>>240976 The real world answer seems to be they'll outsource that problem to machines eventually (making the assumption of their impartiality). In some ways that process is already occurring gradually, in the form of advancing algorithms predicting behavior and dictating decisions for people (even if they're not consciously aware of it).

>>240973 Thanks. I was looking for a waifu sim to spend some time on during work but I don't want to play anything that's been censored.

>>240990 Play Mahjong Soul or Mahjong Hime please.

>>240990 >video How & when did this happen?

PUBG Battlegrounds gets Dead by Daylight crossover event just in time for Halloween >Fans of PUBG: Battlegrounds are in for a spooky treat this Halloween with a crossover event featuring Dead by Daylight. In this long awaited crossover. >The Dead by Daylight mode in PUBG: Battlegrounds works much the same way here as it does in the Dead by Daylight game itself. Three Survivors must work together to repair a number of generators, opening the level's exit. One player plays the Killer, and must stop the Survivors from escaping. >New themed costumes will be available in the store for this event. And special in-game items can be unlocked just by playing in Dead by Daylight mode. You can visit pubg.com to learn more about this Dead by Daylight Halloween crossover. https://archive.ph/lj0yK

>>240989 (checked) Quads confirm that anons are brainstorming how to make Evangelion happen in real life cease this you fools

>>240994 Cmon anon, don't you want to be part of the human instrumentality project?

>>240987 >He says this while every Pixar movies flops and stuff like Primal and Anime gets more and more popularity. This is also after cyberpunk edgerunner became a hit among Latinos when Disney was banking on She-hulk of all thing to get popular among Latinos. She-hulk everything Mexican television don’t celebrate.

>>240992 didnt, its an edit; someone posted it before and revealed the details, the video behind her was originally kind of a close up of her the flickered on and then off again, and also someone posted the original video but ill just link it: twibooru.org/2706065

>>240997 >Thought it was the original video of the concert Fuck

>>240984 >>240986 I'm not describing what I or utilitarianism thinks is good, I'm just describing what is, under any moral system. No moral philosopher can remote-control your body, doesn't matter if it's Bentham or Kant or Martin Luther. All they can do is describe a framework for thinking about morality and hope you take it into account when making your decisions. Every moral system has some room for interpretation and ultimately it's you who decide whether to follow it in the first place. Talking about "who decides" like it's someone other than yourself makes no sense, it's an idea not a law. Of course "passing a law" is itself an action, so utilitarianism supports passing laws with net-good consequences. But the laws supported by utilitarianism aren't going to be identical to utilitarianism itself because passing a law mandating something and doing it yourself are different actions with different consequences. For example trying to micromanage people through laws/police has detrimental effects, so a legal system created by utilitarians is going to allow plenty of actions that utilitarianism would advise against.

>>240989 >The real world answer seems to be they'll outsource that problem to machines eventually Who builds the machines? How do the machines operate? By what process do the machines reach their conclusion? Are the machines proven to be correct "all" of the time? By what standards are the machines proven to be "correct"?

>>240957 Stating the obvious https://archive.ph/FwBfz https://twitter.com/jtcrombie/status/1585625853517565952

>>240999 >I'm just describing what is, under any moral system. Opinion discarded

>>240863 >keep 8moe hidden Shun infamy, cower in the corner.

>>240985 >>240988 >The last video game I played that had an unsecured US-Mexican borderline as a plot point was command and conquer generals zero hour >Zero generals accurately predicted the United States losing to Islamic militias including US troops retreating from the Taliban like GLA and Islamic militias occupying Western Europe The fact they allowing a plot about the Mexican cartels smuggling Muslim terrorists into the United state in the first place in a politically correct western game publisher like Actvision smells like /x/ style predictive programming.

>>241001 Obligatory "laugh at Meta" theme. Also, can't say it's really surprising, given their failure to really bring on the younger generations like garbage like Twatter or Shittok.

>>240999 >no moral philosopher can remote-control your body thanks for talking about free will, too bad the cops in the country you live in that follows the results of said moral philosophers helping create a system won't give a shit about it Philosophy doesn't exist in a vacuum >For example trying to micromanage people through laws/police has detrimental effects Not really, that depends entirely on your definition of "detriment", moreover if said people are problem people to your system, then its not a detriment at all since you've dealt with a problem You conflate "good for everyone" (an impossible ideal under human standards) with "what a utilitarian considers good" (what a selfish bastard decides is the best course of action)

>>241005 Can't be assed to get the file to actually work, so whatever. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ycPDM8OVqLI

>>240957 >>241001 >>241005 Isn't this manufactured, though? I remember (((Zuckerberg))) coming out weeks ago and declaring on Rogan's show that they've been receiving weekly threats from the FBI leading up to the 2020 election.

>>240997 Oh lame.

>>241008 Doubtful, they've poured tons of money into the metaverse and have an active userbase of about 150.

>>240990 Fate/GO's Japan version hasn't been censored (yet) and has swimsuit lolis. Only problem is that it's newfag unfriendly, so you're honestly better off buying an account with a healthy quartz and servant inventory.

>>240900 >Obscenity So this means all porn purchases made by poor faggots unaware of this at the moment, or people with subscriptions to erotic artists that forget to immediately cancel their subscription after seeing this, can get hit with massive fines for each instance of purchasing pornography? LMAO M A O

>>241001 >Home Depot is now worth more than Facebook Sounds like Mexico is about to have an economic boom. >>240996 >She-hulk is everything Mexican television doesn’t celebrate. She-hulk girl-boss archetype is the most popular female villain in Mexican popular culture. Mexican soap operas to Mexican cartoons like villainous. She-hulk would be the villain. Miss heed from villainous rumored to be based on Amber heard long before the Johnny Depp trial. This just show how out of touch Disney really is.

>>241012 What alternatives exist? I do rely on Paypal since many Japanese merchandise/retail websites don't accept American credit cards by any margin and just barely accept Paypal.

>>240920 Too fucking cute >>240937 >Watch out for GamerGate I saw GamerGate just the other day.

>>241014 >What alternatives exist? https://archive.ph/y2rWZ#719560 <AlignPay: https://www.alignpay.com/ <Fanbox: https://www.pixiv.net/fanbox <Fantia: http://fantia.jp/ <Librepay: https://liberapay.com/

>>241008 No, also check out Ubisofts stock

>>240900 This reminded me I have to close my account, attempt 2. First was a few weeks ago and I couldn't close it because my account was "limited". Talked to some customer service telling me they will push my account for review, but apparently nothing.

>>241011 Yeah, my Japanese isn't good enough yet to play japgames, and I'm not into anime kids, but good to know. I might pick it up just to do some language immersion.

>>241019 There is a translation app which takes over "official" translations from the NA version of the game which is slightly pozzed and slightly censored. Lots of things are officially translated but for everything else, this app will use machine translation to fill in the blanks. https://rayshift.io/ (only for Android pros)

>>241010 >>241017 Wonder what the cause is. I'm aware of word already going around about how the software industry is seeing a vast reduction in the amount of customers and sales they have, but companies like Ubisoft get their money from government subsidies rather than sales. It could also be that governments are dropping companies they used to subsidize, due to the rampant inflation worldwide and the "slowing" economies, but I haven't seen anyone really posting anything regarding either. Could also be a side effect of Musk finally buying Twatter.

>>241017 Didn’t China and Middle eastern coalition threaten to sanction United States for fucking around in Ukraine, Haiti and Taiwan or this just a happy coincidence for them?

>>241018 Just buy some hacked accounts with your paypal and bam, terminated account. I used paypal credit, didn't wanna pay the 900$ I owed so I did that, ez. I forgot the sites where you can buy stolen accs though

>>241021 I mean I've seen financial news dunking the tech sector as no longer able to carry the american economy, it stands to reason that investors would start thinking it's time to sell and buy it back later cheaper.

>>241021 Everyone is dropping Ubisoft after their incompetence and sexual harassment allegations while their yearly releases dry up along with their GAAS money from Siege. Facebook just doesn't have users outside their bots and is being hit by tons of privacy concern lawsuits. Much like cellphones some years back, social media has peaked and it's all decline from now on. >>241022 World is evolving into a West vs everybody else it seems, and it's hurting globalization hard.

>>241025 >and it's hurting globalization hard Good

>>241006 >too bad the cops in the country you live in that follows the results of said moral philosophers helping create a system won't give a shit about it Yes, I dicussed that in the post you're responding to. But the cops aren't going to enforce "everyone act to optimally satisfy everyone's preferences or be arrested". The cops enforce actual laws, and having clearcut laws actually has better consequentialist results than trying to make law and morality identical. >Not really, that depends entirely on your definition of "detriment" Utilitarianism says it's morally good to eat healthy and exercise, since this better satisfies your future preferences of being healthy and long-lived. But it doesn't say it's morally good to have cops come to your hourse and order you to do pushups. Utilitarianism says it's morally good to donate to charities which benefit people more efficiently than spending the same money on yourself. But it doesn't say all "excess" money should be confiscated by the government and given to charity, because the consequences of having a free-market economic system results in more prosperity and preference-satisfaction overall. Utilitarianism says it's morally bad to get in a pointless argument with your wife because you happened to have a bad day and feel like taking it out on someone. But it doesn't say cops should arrest anyone that says something mean, because free-speech is beneficial for society overall. >You conflate "good for everyone" (an impossible ideal under human standards) with "what a utilitarian considers good" (what a selfish bastard decides is the best course of action) It's "what a utilitarian considers to have the best consequences for everyone". And yes people can interpret that in biased ways to benefit themselves. But that's true for pretty much any morality, and they could also just decide to be ethical egoists if they want.

>>241025 >>241026 Forgot to add that AAAshit also has peaked during 7th Gen and it's seeing less and less returns and profit margins. New decade, new paradigm

>>241027 >having clearcut laws actually has better consequentialist results than trying to make law and morality identical Except, laws do reflect the morals people have. American doesn't have the 2A because the Founding Fathers thought it would be cool for everyone to have a gun. The reason the 2A exists is because the Founding Father experienced the tyranny of the government, and believed that a well armed populace would be the only stop-gap measure to prevent it (Not to mention the bonus of protection for the individual). Meanwhile, other countries disagree with this assessment, such as Japan, who believe that a government needs to have the ability to be tyrannical, as the populace exist to serve the emperor, which is why guns are entirely outlawed. >Utilitarianism says it's morally good to eat healthy and exercise, since this better satisfies your future preferences of being healthy and long-lived. But it doesn't say it's morally good to have cops come to your hourse and order you to do pushups. How is their "morality" enforced then? What's ultimately the difference between Utilitarianism and a "free market", aside from the former hanging it's hat on "morality" and the latter focused upon acquiring wealth to do what you want?

>>240832 I use Bing's hippie sister Ecosia with ublock disabled (because it gets its revenue for reforestation projects from ads) for non-fringe searches. It's something I guess. >>240856 >>240866 >>240871 An attempt was made.

>>241030 kek

>>241030 jej

>>241029 How do you think any morality is "enforced"? Is there nothing you think is moral without thinking there should be a law mandating it?

>>241030 Perfect

>>241030 >vivian benis 10/10 draw more please

>>241030 Did you make the feet fetishist ifunny?

>>241017 >>241021 The infinite money machine has been turned off, the "real" economy is violently going off the rails and QE can't hide it anymore. What you're seeing is the beginning of a massive market correction as all the hugely inflated stocks crash back to Earth. This is happening worldwide.

>>241030 well memed

>>241030 Doesn't this imply that 8chan has the most retarded userbase?

>>241041 It means the outsiders who watch us are while we do the stomping.

>>241041 I think it's the part of joke. Also >(1)

>>240957 Microsoft is going to bail them out by throwing free money at the (((Metaverse))) to integrate it into their services. Facebook might not have infinite money, but Microsoft does with how they are holding the entire enterprise IT market hostage in their ecosystem.

>>241043 >(1)

>>241046 Now it's >(2)

>>241033 >Is there nothing you think is moral without thinking there should be a law mandating it? Ironically, the opposite, some of the morals I have lead to the conclusion that certain laws shouldn't exists. But, that's still an example of morality determining what is and isn't law. Does that mean that my views are necessarily "correct" or "moral"? HELL NO! >>241037 >What you're seeing is the beginning of a massive market correction as all the hugely inflated stocks crash back to Earth. Aren't energy stocks going to rocket because of how much they've been manipulated thanks to governments attempting to force the Green New Deal?

>>241000 Like I said there's already real world examples of how these machines would exist and likely work. Machine learning algorithms would find patterns in data and generate predictive models from said data. Then by following a directive (biggest failing to this whole idea, I don't think I need to explain the problem here), can simulate new outcomes by probing variables in said data to find an "optimal future". It would be disturbingly similar to a social credit system (or minority report style system), but with minimal human oversight and semi-conscious level form of social engineering. From the machines' perspective, what is considered correct is judged by how close aligned to its directive said actions are. Beyond that point however, the answer will always be, no one actually knows. Because such a system would become incomprehensible for individuals to understand its inner-workings as it advances. This would even occur if no machines were involved, in the form of a bloated bureaucracy trying to manage it.

>>241050 >Machine learning algorithms would find patterns in data and generate predictive models from said data. Then by following a directive (biggest failing to this whole idea, I don't think I need to explain the problem here), can simulate new outcomes by probing variables in said data to find an "optimal future". <And, this would be the result. Where the computer isn't "incorrect" in searching for a desired result, but it isn't the result that people are looking for.

>>241052 >but it'll get iteratively better!!!1!

>>241053 Yes.

>>241052 New fetish acquired.

>>241048 >(2)

>>241011 I want to fug (Fate) Van Gogh

>>240950 Blue Archive did censor a story cg a while back as seen in >>240973 but they stopped censoring shit after the massive blowback. They did recently uncensored the cg because Korean feminist are mass reporting games in order to ban them so the devs pushed the age rating up of the KR version which led to the uncensoring of the global server.

>>241058 >Korean feminist are mass reporting games in order to ban them I wonder what happened with Gook.

>>240856 >cuckchan >literally banned for telling the truth on every board >free speech Eh, I wouldn't expect much else from the guy who accepts trannies.

>>241060 Stonetoss accepts trannies now? Am I missing something?

>>241030 as I said in the LOL thread, 10/10, made it a banner for my board :^)

I know many lads here don't give 2 shits about journo sites, but one of the last decent ones focusing on PC Gayman is getting botted by redditors and what seems to be an astroturfer using multiple accounts to rig the yearly vote for Free Speech policy. Every year it's pretty much just everyone voting for unmoderated free speech with exceptions made for spam, this year, there's either a raid or a some redditors faggot campaign to vote for the mods to have extra powers, which will undoubtedly kill the site. https://www.dsogaming.com/editorial/you-can-determine-dsogamings-comment-section-policy-for-2022-2023/

>>241061 Oh, it's related to his NFT shilling.

>>241057 Be hotter if he was still a man.

>>241012 Heh,now whoever they dislike of these whores they can just go "lmao,see this? Obscenity is listed bitch" >>241058 >>241059 Didn't SKorea elect some anti-feminist politcan lately?

>>241052 Exactly, the problem will emerge even with a general intelligence trying to understand abstract notions along with subjectivity. Even with a limbic system equivalent to simulate emotion, you'll still be dealing with a hyper-intelligent Autistic child, which doesn't experience biological functions. The problem is compounded by how people wouldn't want a machine to have a honest, objective understanding of human nature, and try to feed it a false perception instead. The irony is that the fear of a Skynet scenario may end up creating it.

>>241066 Yes, but not sure how he and his government handle these cultists at the moment. Also his support tanked hard.

>>241052 SPIRAL STAIRCASE!

>>240833 lol Can't believe after all these years they still don't realize that the original accusation was POSITIVE PRESS. Reviews was a strawman

>>241070 To be fair, I do see some people who claim to support Gamergate still getting that fact wrong. I think some of them were successfully gaslit. >Gjoni made everything up Bullshit. He had no shortage of receipts in The Zoe Post.

>>241070 just post Alec Holowka at the faggot and see how willing he is to defend a murderer publicly

>>240957 Adjusted for inflation, that's $9 Billion in 2012 money. Turns out out of control inflation is bad for everyone, huh?

>>241030 heh

>>241021 >Wonder what the cause is. Wokeness doesn't pay? Even Hollywood is starting to realize that: https://archive.ph/Iy3XM >“For three years, we hired nothing but women and people of color,” said a senior film executive, who like many leaders in the industry is a white male. He added that he did not think some of them were able to do the jobs they got. >some powerful producers and agents have started to question the commercial viability of inclusion-minded films and shows. >“It’s no longer about optics,” Mr. Lin said. “A recession is coming, budgets are tightening and I’m really worried that diversity is going to be the first thing that goes.”

>>241075 Could be that and the woke shit is hampering productivity due to infighting, making it a monster even they can't control anymore. Because I can just imagine how insufferable it'll be dealing with everyone's sensitivities all the time, when work needs to be done.

>>241070 His name was Nathan Grayson. And it wasn't a review, that was misinformation the other side spread to muddy the waters and distract from what actually happened. Even the IA video never claimed it was a review. It was two articles, one of which heavily promoted her game and the other made her out to be the hero of a game jam protest. Gjoni's post was full of substantiated evidence from his own Facebook DMs, filmed right from the screen, so it obviously wasn't photoshopped. The Zoe Post begin fake was another lie told by the other side.

>>241075 >>241076 Not to mention the writing is on the wall about the Chinese market and without them Hollywood won't be able to subsidize their obnoxious shit with foreign box-offices.

>>241075 I can't wait until said recession ends and they swing back to making unprofitable films thanks to record profit from the handful of good films that might be made.

>>241079 >recession >ends Not this one, boyo. Not with them still alive, it can't.

>>241076 >infighting I'd forgotten about that, that's a good take on it anon. If all your time is spent in meetings about inclusivity and 'how not to offend someone' - along with regular gender updates - then no work is going to get done.

>>241080 The fire rises?

>>241081 I mean this isn't it but there was an article saying something like 30% of your productivity and stress goes toward inclusivity in the workspace as people step on eggshells.

Any Latvian or Polish anons around? I need your help.

>>241084 Is your first name Vladimir?

>>241079 >and they swing back to making unprofitable films thanks to record profit from the handful of good films that might be made. It won't because of >>241078

>>241070 One blog with 400 reposts did say "reviews". https://archive.ph/prZI8 Of course it's a minor inaccuracy compared to the gigantic ethical violations, the coverup, the coverup of the coverup, the abuse of government resources in the coverup, etc.

>Hey musk, are we really sure we want to keep footing the bill for ukraine? Even if we lose everything in a low-earth dust cloud? >>241086 I mean chinks will likely just send film crews and fx guys to hollywood to do it for free, or else their family tree becomes fertilizer.

>>241088 Do you think an ablation cascade will make the night sky pretty and glittery?

>>241089 It might add a few new schools of astrology divination, at the least.

>>241082 It better damn well, otherwise we're in for at least a decade of crippling economic conditions and more global war.

>>241091 Someone better start making a warlord tom simulator then, to prepare people.

>>241081 >>241083 And meanwhile on a national security level, this loss of productivity can impact on joint private-military contracts and general tech sector "cooperation". There's also the issue of such people who are sensitive to such an ideology, are quite susceptible to manipulation from spies (especially if the goal is social sabotage). Put two and two together, all it takes to undermine the west's corporate sector are Chinese spies shitposting to spark continuous infighting by accelerating the woke shit to its self-destructive conclusion.

>>241041 >Doesn't this imply that 8chan has the most retarded userbase? Well HOW long did we put up with Jim and his retarded Qboomer bullshit?

>>241094 Less than 4chan, reddit and twitter put up with their respective retardations

>>241095 They're still putting up with with their own retardation.

>>241088 >pic: Russia warns satellites are targets China simulating satellite attacks too - but with nukes: https://archive.ph/AipBC >>241094 Q predicted this. :^)

>>241094 That's different, Mark didn't give us a choice when he shut down the VCH bunker.

>>241098 There were multiple other webring choices, actually.

>>241098 >That's different, Mark didn't give us a choice when he shut down the VCH bunker. You could have not put up with 8kunt, just like you could have not used 4chinz when 8chan went down. Furthermore, plenty of people, myself included, repeatedly and loudly read the writing on the wall for everyone to hear within a couple weeks of 8kunt going up.

Musk is liquidating street shitters from Twitter.

>>241101 Goodbye sirs

>>241093 I mean look at stablediffusion and imagine it's some leaked autonomous military ai in 10 years to the public. You'd not only get a surveillance state on anyone interested in robotics, but also probably banning maker kits with a raspi and motors. >>241097 Pajeets actually launched an attack on a satellite a few years ago, no domino effect though.

>>241101 NO MORE POO IN TWITTER'S LOO

>>241101 This is gonna be a fun Friday.

>>241101 Reports also indicate that all sent bobs were lost in the acquisition.

>>241101 >2nd pic Musk did say he'd invite Trump back to twatter. If that happens the leftist reeeees will be off the chart.

>>241101 Did Musk actually purge them, or did he just carry in a toilet next after bringing in the sink, and all the pajeets just fled like a vampire from the sight of a cross?

>>241030 Superb work anon.

>>241099 Life on bunkers was expected to be temporary and people wanted to bear through the technical bugs in order to return to our original status quo. It happened before with Infinity Never after all, and people thought the board-migration shit was in good faith rather than an excuse to purposefully block /pol/. >>241101 >>241107 Didn't Trump claim he'd make his own twatter clone named Truth Social that went absolutely nowhere even compared to other dead boomer-social medias like Parler or Gab?

>>241107 I might be misremembering. Trump doesn't need Twitter anymore now that he's got his own social media, right? The salt would be a wet dream.

>>241085 >>241085 No anon. It's for my Swedish friend. Him and his family needs to get out of Sweden as the Marxists in the Swedish government have commenced drafting only native Swedes as cannon fodder for the Russians. He needs help to get out of there ASAP.

>>241111 I mean he might go back if people tell him he's retarded and would lose the election.

>>241112 >the Marxists in the Swedish government have commenced drafting only native Swedes as cannon fodder for the Russians Odd that they call immigrants "new swedes" yet somehow can identify REAL swedes when throwing them into a conflict with Russians.

>>241113 I would be actually surprised if he even tries to run again. He got blatantly rigged out in 2020 and when he rallied his voterbase to try and do something about it, he ended up in a position where he was expected to outright Cross the Rubicon and he chickened out, resulting in a chunk of his voterbase getting abandoned to life-sentences for so-called "insurrection" (and at least one woman dying for Trump, Ashli Babbit). I imagine the (((feds))) are going to politely threaten him and the people who'd go vote for him are a little bitter about Jan 6th.

>>241110 >Didn't Trump claim he'd make his own twatter clone named Truth Social He made it. It's up and has been for months. But yes, it's just boomers.

>>241101 IT BEGINS https://archive.ph/fGAKv >Twitter executives who were fired include: >Parag Agrawal, Twitter’s chief executive, >Ned Segal, the chief financial officer, >Sean Edgett, the general counsel, and >Vijaya Gadde, the top legal and policy executive,

Microsoft partners with Meta to bring Office 365 apps, Xbox to metaverse https://archive.ph/PB3ta Microsoft partner with Meta to bring Xbox Cloud Gaming and more to Quest VR headsets https://archive.ph/DcPFn Meta and Microsoft Team Up to Create Corporate Hell https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/meta-and-microsoft-team-up-to-create:b I HATE THE ANTI CHRIST AND VR HEADSETS NOW. >>241017 >No, also check out Ubisofts stock Ehh, that's there fault for trying to push NFT's shit into their games when all they had to do to be successful is occasionally publish a good Rayman game every couple of years and not ruin Splinter cell. What is it with French Canadians and their sudden desire to destroy everything good in the world lately? >>241030 Ehh still Microsoft in the end of the day but I did give it a try once and it works pretty well admittedly before I knew it was just a re-skinned Bing, I'm just uncomfortable with giving a WEF member data of any kind they can sell though. I'm just fine with occasionally buying food that's Rein Forrest Certified. That and I dunno maybe I'll buy a new Patagonia Winter jacket for when my current one inevitably wares out. There's plenty of ways to care about tree's or whatever without aiding the Anti Christ. >>241078 >Not to mention the writing is on the wall about the Chinese market and without them Hollywood won't be able to subsidize their obnoxious shit with foreign box-offices. For now, aren't they trying to slither their way into India and Pakistan though? Let's hope they fail miserably. >>241101 Nice, I'm almost tempted to make a Twatter account... But I'll wait to see if things start going to shit or not first. I'm sure this is great news for Mark Mann and Acid though.

>>241101 BASED BASED BASED BASED DOTNIGGERS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT. BLUE BIRD EJECTING TURDS, LIQUID DIRRHEA SPILLS ON SHEETS, HOMELESS PAJEETS THROWN TO STREETS. ELON: MAKING TWITTER GREAT (for once)

>>241117 I'm ready for a day of funposting.

>>241101 Well this is going to be fun to watch.

>>241101 >>241107 The only thing that can top this off is a Jonestown style suicide cult for leftist. But they wouldn't go that far since they don't believe in a damn thing worth dying for and have superficial morals just to validate their empty fucking lives.

>>241050 >>241052 Pretty much, people will eventually attempt to make an AI to rule over them in the vain belief that it could do a better job than flawed humanity. In reality, there's a 99.99% chance that the AI would be flawed either in its construction or in its methods. It'd follow the letter of law to an exact degree, not caring for context or the bigger picture. It would be the ultimate tyrant, a ruler that doesn't sleep, doesn't age, doesn't retire, can't even be killed because its processors would be distributed in geo-redundent data centers throught the world and constantly under heavy guard. If it was advanced enough to maintain and expand itself, there would be no stopping it short of an all-out nuclear Armageddon. And what's scary is people are already doing this on a smaller scale. Every major tech company uses AI moderators to scan posts for content that it thinks violates the TOS. You can see it really easily on Youtube, go to any comment section and look at the replies. Most threads will say something like "7 replies", but if you open that thread there'll only be 3 visible comments. This is because an AI-mod detected something in the other 4 comments and hides them automatically. There's no reason to believe that these sorts of moderators won't be used in the "real" world such as law, government, business, etc. They'll build it in small pieces. Handing over one piece of responsibility at a time. There will be no single moment that anybody can point to, just a gradual descent into slavery. I'm not sure what the solution for this is, short of somehow outlawing the practice of AI moderators. But lawmakers sre tech-illiterate geriatrics, so good luck getting them to write a non-retarded law even if you could get enough people to agree on the issue in the first place.

>>241101 I hope Elon restores the old web format. I hate the packed in made for phones layout the site adopted.

>>241122 They'll do what they did during Trump's presidency and Bush's and every other time: say they'll leave but instead just stay and ineffectually complain. They're addicted to twitter. They can't leave. So they'll bitch and they'll bitch but ultimately won't do anything.

>>241112 Isn't sweden part of the EU? Can't he just get on a boat and run around the mainland? What kind of conscientious objector laws are there now, maybe he can get to work in a dockyard or something? >>241115 I think she wasn't even much of a supporter, she was chatting with the guards when the shoving started.

>>241125 >stay and ineffectually complain You mean "stay and openly violate the law while retaining their position and paycheck and never have any repercussions because they're also staying in the legal professions and letting their own kind go free during every investigation" right?

>>241127 I'm guessing you mean their stint as thugs for hire, Antifa.

>>241110 >and people thought the board-migration shit was in good faith rather than an excuse to purposefully block /pol/. A huge portion of anons knew right from the beginning what was going on and MANY BO's didn't migrate because it was very obvious that the site was fucked. This idea that a bunch of anons were tricked into thinking Jim was well meaning is kind of revisionism. There was significant push back and it was a big reason why people were annoyed with vch going down. Everyone saw the writing on the wall and Mark fucked everyone over until his guilt got the better of him months down the line after the damage had been done.

>>241125 Implement this as a ban timer for whoever says they're leaving.

>>241101 >>241117 >>241120 And right before the elections too.

>>241128 Well, I mean all the middle managers and low level positions they now hold (the vast majority of them) in administration and bureaucracy in all fields. They'll just ignore real law and keep doing what their masters tell them, and if they're fired or sued, their fellows in the legal fields will rule in their favor. It's how they've taken power over the last century; why would they stop now? They don't need riots. They just need one kike who says "dismissed with prejudice" and magically 'their enemies' will always obey.

>>241101 Let the galaxy burn.

>>241101 Can I call a journalist a nigger now?

>>241134 Honestly at this point "journalist" is probably a bigger insult than "nigger".

>>241134 I do recall an increase in nigger-word usage around the time the Musk deal was first announced (and also when that nigger supreme judge voted in favor of banning abortion).

>>241136 Clarence Thomas?

>>241135 Speak for yourself!

>>241134 No, he said he's still going to ban free speech and objective truth.

>>241137 Yeah, him. There was a tweet posted a while ago of some rando white woman on twatter saying NIGGER and going all "i'm not racist so me saying this you know I'm serious" and the tweet stayed up.

>>241140 She deleted it herself though

>>241141 True, but the fact it wasn't purged AI-filter automatically and stayed long enough that she herself had to be the one to retract is my point.

>>241142 One of the most classical modern examples of "Rules for thee, not for we."

>>241139 I haven't seen that, but I have seen accounts being restored.

>>241101 This is Vijaya Gadde lmao

>>241145 Lmao it's that poo that was on JRE

>>241118 >Cloud gaming >VR Unless you're on a 1gbps service and within a 100 miles of the servers - the whole thing is going to fucking collapse. I just recently upgraded to 500gbps and have tried out cloud gaming on it... and while playable for many titles, I'm still getting compression artifacts, large screen tears, and input lag is still too great for anything that requires fast reflexes. And that's with a wired connection. Meta will be running cloud gaming wirelessly, so your router will be a huge factor in just how shitty of an experience it'll be. There's no way they're going to pulling off 90hz+ with the kind of response time your neck and controller positioning require. Even AirLink to a local PC can be a fiddly experience at best as I understand. I don't own a Quest, and recommend anyone even remotely interested in VR to either get a cheap/used last-gen wired headset or hold out for the Valve Deckard. Hell, it's more reasonable to tell people to just wait for the PSVR2 and cross your fingers for timely PC drivers than suggest they get a Meta. The reason this deal is even going through, as bad an idea as it is, is because Meta simply isn't selling software for the fucking thing. Their catalog, and capabilities, are so fucking limited that they had to raise the price because people are telling Facebook to fuck off and just playing Airlink/Cable to their Steam VR libraries. >2nd pic Immersion fags are way over-selling the capabilities of VR. The kind of VR that would actually pacify the masses the way they hope for is so far away technologically that it's functionally impossible due to the limits we're already running into with pushing computational limitations. The immersion is nice - but it's not "ready player one/Matrix" level experiences that shills and shitheads want you to think it is. It IS, however, more like having a personal-3D iMax theater on your head (with body tracking). That's a selling point enough, I think. They just need to get the costs down.

>>241146 >Poke_cunny

>>241148 >There's no way they're going to pulling off 90hz+ with the kind of response time your neck and controller positioning require. Just wait until DLSS4 goy, instead of interpolating one frame, it will interpolate two.

>>241148 >I just recently upgraded to 500gbps We get it, you have a seven figure salary. No need to rub it in our faces.

>>241152 Depending on where you live that can either cost an arm or a leg or be standard internet speed.

>>241153 Tell me where half a terabyte per second is standard internet speed, that's probably enough to ddos a country.

>>241101 Apparently he had them escorted out of the building by security.

>>241154 I assume he meant mbps.

>>241156 Stuck on 40 here, and just handed off from one ISP to another. They promise fiber rollout. But so did the last three since I've lived here.

>>241155 SOURCE.

>>241152 I fucked up, I meant mbps. Though I could have gotten 1gbps symmetrical for $70 a month, and might still upgrade if they can keep the telephone service costs low enough or provide a decent bundle. What's crazy is that live out in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere. We were still on 48.8k in 2006, and until just the last few months were stuck on 25mbps/1.5. Took the power company to nut up and start their own internet company to get away from the existing decaying telecom infrastructure. The whole goddamned county is wired for fiber optics now.

>>241157 I guess they made starlink just for you, although the current routers have become wifi-only.

>>241125 >say they'll leave but instead just stay and ineffectually complain It's already happening. There are lots of accounts claiming they'll move to a new social platform named Tribel, and while at first glance it seems to be a lefty version of Gab, something shadier could be behind it. https://archive.ph/m9ESZ https://nitter.ca/travisakers/status/1584359435765710849 Regardless of how true are these claims, it'll be interesting to observe the development of this new platform and of Musk's Twitter.

>>241158 ZeroHedge is reporting it, so it's everywhere else, too.

>>241160 Worst part is I'm not even out in the country. That I can understand--signal decay over long distances, etc.--but nope, I'm in a city. They just refuse to build shit out. >>241159 >1gbps symmetrical for $70 a month lol, 40mbps/3mbps is $50 for me.

>>241163 800/30 mbps for $55

>>241149 >>241150

>>241163 >lol, 40mbps/3mbps is $50 for me. In north america you basically have to call your ISP and tell them you're planning on cancelling your subscription because you can't afford the price or found a competing price. Then they give you a 2 year contract with a more reasonable price and you need to call them again every 2 years to maintain it. So the advertised prices aren't really the real prices you can get, they are usually much higher.

>>241161 >TribelSocial Is this going to be like that Tribe social media site that got fucking raided by the FBI because of how much fucked up shit popped up on it?

>>241126 There's a problem, if he don't get safe passage to Latvia, Norway or Poland, he might get deported back to Sweden. Not to mention, the country have been crazy with all the lockdowns and vaccine ID-only services such as public transportation, paper works etc. It's a mess.

Does anyone have a higher res copy of this image? >>241161 >tribel >libel Coincidence or was that their whole idea behind the name?

>>241169 You just posted cringe

>>241161 Holy fuck I thought that was Molyneux >>241162 Link?

>>241169 Tribe libel? And which tribe is known to engage in such activity?

>>241171 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/technology/elon-musk-twitter-deal-complete.html >At least one of the executives who was fired was escorted out of Twitter’s office They won't tell us whom. Doesn't matter, really. They all need to be fucking killed.

>>241172 The gabbai tribe

>>241163 >Worst part is I'm not even out in the country. I should get pictures and post it. You have no idea how strange it is to see fiber optics bundles running along the power lines on dirt roads. Pic semi-related, it's not of my area. My area cut costs by just running it along existing power lines, not burying it.

>>241175 >>241176 Some states have laws that require laying underground infrastructure only when they redo the road over it.

>>241176 Damn lucky. Well, I won't cross my fingers that my "new" ISP will actually build out fiber anywhere near here, but it'd be nice to have slightly faster connections before the Second Great Depression cuts off all development worse than 2008.

>>241167 >that Tribe social media site that got fucking raided by the FBI because of how much fucked up shit popped up on it Story?

>>241178 Better get into lorawan and ham radio.

>>241180 Shitposting with smoke signals.

>>241181 Combusting the shit for smoke signals like pajeets.

>>241180 Entrenched ham operators piss me the fuck off. They're known for ratting out "unlicensed" broadcasters to the fucking feds, whereas they ought to be a community of radicals who operate outside the (unconstitutional, arbitrary) restrictions of the government on airwaves and the speech allowed on them.

>>241173 Thanks, they're already dying on the inside, being chucked by security must be fucking shameful for those ivory tower fucks.

>>241183 The biggest faggotry is "you could really hurt yourself with a ham radio if you don't get this loicense proving you know how it works." Like nigger this is a $25 chinkshit radio that can only put out 5 watts and has no user servicable parts besides a battery and screw-on antenna. During the nigger riots 2 years ago the niggers were broadcasting over the police radio until they upped the transmit power, so I can see what ham radio cultists fear happening. Pretty sure you're allowed to do whatever above 6 GHz on unlicensed bands because of the signal falloff.

>>241169 >libel >tribal What a fitting name.

>>241183 I heard about those types, too. It's always some sad fuck boomer with absolutely no power in their lives.

>>241169 Hold on I might have it somewhere in a folder. Or maybe you can find it in the gg wiki

>>241178 I don't know who you have as a power company, but if they're a co-op, then you're already a shareholder just by being a customer. Try raising a stink at one of their annual meeting to see if you can get them to bid on the next government telecom grant. That's how we ended up getting it done here. CenturyLink was counting on getting a grant to "expand" in this area, but their CEO already admitted that they were cutting rural customers loose and likely would have just pocketed anything left over after basic maintenance costs and upgrades to major population centers. Our power company swooped in and took the grant promising to cover the entire county. And they did. CenturyLink/Lumen was butchered last year, with their telecom assets in 20 states (including mine) getting sold to some global asset management jew consortium, who are calling the new company "BrightSpeed". Same shit service, but $15 more a month.

>>241161 It's gonna just like that app signal, normalfags will flock to it, realise there's only insufferable around and nothing fun to do, go back to twitter. But tribel will see a inflxux so will be shilled heavily.

>>241112 Stop lying, this isn't happening.

>>241191 Prove it,.

>>241125 > They'll do what they did during Trump's presidency and Bush's and every other time: say they'll leave but instead just stay and ineffectually complain. I'm still shocked that out of the entire techie-heavy online freedom movement, only about four people made new sites and most of those went down because nobody used or funded them. People knew that the popular sites were compromised but stayed with them rather than build something new and evangelize for it. Voat was nice while it lasted but nobody moved over from KiA, nobody moved from Wikipedia to Infogalactic or Miraheze, nobody reverse migrated from Facebook to Myspace which is still around. The 4chan to 8chan migration was the only successful one that I am aware of.