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Anonymous 01/03/2021 (Sun) 03:11:06 Id: 3a8abe No. 4186 [Reply]
How would a libertarian society deal with unions especially teachers unions?
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Libertarians think that they should give up defending freedom because Americans hate liberty, but Libertarians should keep resisting tyranny for selfish reasons. While the elites control the money, government, and media, the 99% have the numbers. One Libertarian may not be able to resist being sent to the concentration camps, but one million people might.
>>4187 >They wouldn't exist if the workers had good working conditions You DO realize that Disney and Ford were the center for unionization battles in their respective fields, DESPITE BOTH companies paying their employees well above their competitors and having the cleanest and healthiest facilities in their environments. And, being the only companies who didn't wilt at the sign of money. In fact, both companies had nothing against unions, and allowed their employees to join whatever union they so desired, but that didn't stop other moral busybodies from raking both companies through the coals until they either submitted entirely and created the first "union-only" shop (Ford) or destroyed the familial atmosphere of the company and caused many of their best people to leave altogether (Disney).
Americans say that the reason the elites want to kill off the 99% is to save the environment, but maybe the globalists are just evil, insane, and greedy.

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Anonymous 09/05/2021 (Sun) 16:26:15 Id: 8f0024 No. 4594 [Reply]
Brother MFC-2700DW. This is what made me stop being a libertarian after listening to the Tom Woods Show daily for 5 years, reading Rothbard, Hoppe and all the misesian crew. A fucking multi-purpose printer. Why? Because I just found out that the scanning function doesn't work if the printer runs out of ink. A feature completely separated from the other doesn't work because of some jewish software trickery. This is not something that can be solved using the free market because it's such a specific nuisance that it will never be adressed. I mean, would a court defend me? Instead the State would be a lot more efficient. One law to stop hardware being stopped by software and the problem is solved and justice is served.
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>>4594 Make an open source print engine. Really not that hard...
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>>5251 >Make an open source print engine we have those already
Even the rich suffer in a police state. Life is a prison if the government steals your property or you can't sell your house. Even the wealthy are wiretapped.

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Anonymous 07/16/2020 (Thu) 04:44:36 Id: e43776 No. 3374 [Reply]
Ay, anyone wanna help me turn this into an ancap flag? https://pixelcanvas.io/@-441,-592 It used to be one before the on life commies turned into a commie flag. Somebody who knows more about pixel art than me could also make a template to make a gadsden snake.
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>>5208 Equality of opportunity is just a higher order equality of outcome.
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Seems like some anons ITT would benefit by understanding pic rel
Everything is illegal, everyone is a criminal, everyone is under surveillance 24/7, and no one cares. Living in a police state means that you must live in dread of being arrested. You can't help feeling hopeless.

Anonymous 08/29/2020 (Sat) 16:35:51 Id: f9a18d No. 3600 [Reply]
what do you think is the real reason for the various lockdowns around the world? I mean, is it just government retardation or do you think there are more nefarious reasons behind them?
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Americans scream that they are resisting tyranny, but do you see any protests?
>>5254 our protestors havent been released from prison yet
There is not a single thing that the government has not destroyed now and Americans walk around saying everything is wonderful. How would you feel if you wanted to get married, but your girlfriend lives in Australia and the borders are closed? How would you feel if you wanted to buy razors, but razors are locked up because the government has legalized theft and stores want to reduce shoplifting? How would you feel if you wanted to drive a car, but the state requires your fingerprints to get a license? What would you do if you wanted to work, but the government said that you must get a dangerous vaccine? What if you wanted to buy a dog, but the government said dogs were illegal?

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Libertarian Theonomy Anonymous 11/14/2019 (Thu) 06:40:57 Id: faaa89 No. 656 [Reply]

Is Biblical law compatible with libertarianism? R.J. Rushdoony and Gary North made some compelling arguments for it, in my opinion.
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You know that the US is bad now when you think about freedom and start crying.
>>5226 the early 1900s is when a bunch of rich ukrainian jewish families started moving to america. devon stack covered this in a few streams
There is no sanity in the USA anymore. How can you deal with Americans when they look you in the eye and say that the US had TSA groping in 1776?

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property tax bla 04/16/2022 (Sat) 14:53:30 Id: 000000 No. 5234 [Reply]
how on earth do governments rationalize property tax? it just seems cruel to tax people on the land they live on. Why should you pay anyone for the right to own your home? i bet people became homeless due to this bullshit. What do you guys think? This is for me some of the cruelest shit i have ever experienced. Everyone needs an unconditional right to a home and should always feel safe knowing no one can take that from them and they can always have the right to defend that home with whatever means necessary.
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There are still some few countries out there with no property tax such as Malta, some gulf countries etc. Also, in most countries that have territorial tax (meaning that only your income in the country is taxed but income that comes out of the country is not taxed at all) you can easily not pay any property tax at all. I think the best country for this would be Paraguay since they do have VERY low taxes overall and you can easily get guns there.
>>5240 >the best country for this would be Paraguay They're also whiter than the US
Americans may see or hear about the closing stores, rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, offshoring, homosexuality, endless US wars, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm, but they're not connecting the dots that all these seemingly unrelated issues are part of the plot to destroy the USA. Americans are so brainwashed, divided, distracted, degraded, and demoralized now that they might even think these trends are necessary and proof that the US is improving.

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Anonymous 01/04/2022 (Tue) 22:18:57 Id: 000000 No. 5096 [Reply]
Have you guys read this book? What are your thoughts on it? If you haven't you should, I can't think of any media that comes close to being as ancap as this.
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>>5104 I think it can be adapted into something though. It has a decent cast. If you haven't read the book or listened to it, dont look at the picture. I like my interpretation of the characters but it could be wrong and I dont want to spoil your ideas. Also its a sloppy ugly sketch.
It's probably my favorite sci fi book. First Heinlein I ever read and it's the reason that I later read almost everything he's written. It has some great savvy political takes. The loonies were more free when they were ruled by an absolute monarch prison warden then they were under self-governance. All the leaders of the revolution were freedom loving, but the end result was less freedom than before. The loonies really didn't know how good they had it under the warden. This is a deliberate parallel and comment on the American revolution. The only thing I think was a slight mistake in the book is how Manny comments a few times how it was a mistake for the warden to centralize everything around Mike, while the revolutionaries also put themselves at the mercy of Mike. I thought it would come back to bite them at some point but it never did. All in all great book, must read for any sci fi fan. Definitely recommend it to your friends if you want to liberty pill them.
Tyranny leads to anarchy. The world will soon go full Mad Max. Obeying the law is easy when only murder and theft are illegal, but no can obey the law if everything is illegal. What can you do when fireworks are illegal, but firecrackers are mandatory? Who will enforce the law when the government cannot pay the Gestapo? Who will enforce the law when the Gestapo are abolished? Why would cops defend the state when the Gestapo must wear masks and get dangerous vaccines?

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The Big Grift Anonymous 08/29/2020 (Sat) 19:11:12 Id: c5fadb No. 3604 [Reply]
The free market is dead. There is no price discovery. There is no real demand. It's just the Fed buying garbage. Get out as soon as you can.
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>>3605 It's never been this shameless before.
>>3614 I don't know, post-'71 and pre-Volcker was pretty goddam shameless. If anything, I'd say this is the most we've been aware about the FED post-'71. But in any case, this has been going on for at least a century and distorting any real price discovery since at least that long ago. I don't think this is anything new.
Well said. One reason patriots must act today is because tomorrow will certainly be worse. Get off of your keyboard, withdraw your money from the bank, buy gold, guns, ammo, and food and move to South Dakota or buy a sailboat. The globalists are going all the way.

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Yet Another 2020 Election Thread Anonymous 11/07/2020 (Sat) 04:18:59 Id: 6de11a No. 4006 [Reply]
Alright, I'm having trouble keeping all this shit straight in my head, so I'm posting it all here. As of 2020/11/06, the following states are in the air, and this is their status: Sources: https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/ https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/ordersofthecourt/20 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-demands-recount-wisconsin-2020-election/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/06/georgia-recount-us-election-biden-trump Pennsylvania - As of today, taken to SCOTUS over whether ballots past November 3rd, 8 p.m. should be counted. If the SCOTUS agrees with Trump, Pennsylvania will go to Trump, otherwise, it goes to Biden. 20 votes Wisconsin - Recount has been requested. Currently standing for Biden. 10 votes Georgia - Undergoing recount. Currently standing for Biden. 16 votes Michigan - Currently standing for Biden. Under lawsuit for not allowing observer access, and for counting votes past the deadline similar to the Pennsylvania case.

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>>4013 That's not answering the question. What's the reasoning, what's even their narrative? What's changed from yesterday that makes it able to be called?
>>4009 Update on the "glitchy" voting system used in Michigan, and apparently in 30 other states. The people who made it donated to the Clinton Foundation. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/30-states-computer-system-known-be-defective-tallying-votes >>4014 They called PA for Biden.
The state arrests you when you don't cut your lawn, but the state doesn't need to mow the grass on government property when the government loses workers due to vaccine mandates.

Operation Paul Revere Anonymous 11/08/2020 (Sun) 01:27:49 Id: b45726 No. 4016 [Reply]
TL;DR: PRINT PICTURE AND SPREAD THE PASTA AROUND IRL AS POSTERS EVERYWHERE ON THE 11TH Hello everyone. I have been watching the current events with terrible dread and heartache. I never expected to see the USA reduced to such Banana Republic antics of ballot stuffing in such absurd scale, much less such a wide reaching effort by so much of the deep state, media and big tech to align this well. However I refuse to go down like this. We have not only enough proof of election quackery to fight court battles, the SCOTUS is aligned with more conservatives leanings and a large part of the population is ready to make a stand. We have until December 8th to fight legally and till December 14th to get the Electoral College to properly contest these phony results. Thus I had the idea for operation Paul Revere. No violence, no uprisings or militias. None of that is needed for now. Simply spread the word. A symbol, something to make it clear that we will not take to being lied and cheated like this. I took a page off the It's Ok To Be White operation and the amazing results it got, and we shall use that. In the OP you can see what I suggest we use. A simple symbol of what has come to signify the shady nature of this election, the mysterious straight line of thousands and thousands of Biden only ballots that were delivered to the counting centers in Wisconsin at 4am on the 4th. Simple, elegant, poignant. I was gonna post this on 4chan's /pol/, but the place has become a complete fuck fest of shills. I trust you here to be a better audience. However, this is big. This isn't just a stand against Critical Race Theory, this is more. The fundamental institution of the Republic is being attacked, which demands a bigger crowd than dedicated shitposters. As such we need to make a alliance with the normies. Reach out to your IRL friends, that one boomer Trump supporting uncle, discord and IRC friends, that cousin you speak with, those local Facebook groups of Trump supporters, everyone. Tell them about it and get them to help. From sea to shining sea the message must be spread. We have to work to make ourselves heard, because the media sure as shit is not interested in helping us, big tech wants us gone, and even the Republican party which is supposed to help their president has been taken over by spineless Neocons and RINOs who will be all too happy to go back to the status quo of 2015. Due to the normie nature of these extra sets of hands keep redpills to a minimum. No happy merchants, no NATSOC shit, no edgy racial humor. We need to spread this far and wide, and restraining ourselves for a moment is a small price to pay to ensure justice and block the interests of these people who want to go back to endless wars in the ME and selling out everything for scraps of profit at the cost of our souls. Given the involvement of normies in the operation we also need to accommodate the time table to account for that. As such I suggest we make it so the posters go up on the 11th to give them all of Monday to go print and the weekend plus Monday to spread the world on their social circles. Alongside the posters a call for unity and cooperation in the form of a link to local telegram groups of normies read to communicate and organize. I am not gonna create any of these myself, instead we should rely on the boomers and normies themselves to crystallize around their social circles. To spread the message we will use the call for action image there. Godspeed everyone, and good luck.
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>>4033 This. While Trump is far from ideal, post a pro-gold person to the fed, ending the wars, and Patriot Act, compared to Biden he is ok in my book. The Shelton rumors are what put me over the eddge for Trump.
I guess I always sort of held the illusion in my mind that I lived in a Democracy, and it's sad to see it all go. I don't have a lot of hope for the future now.
One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists. Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state. Americans used to say that they love freedom, but now they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects. Every country has the government it deserves.

Accelerationism Anonymous 02/07/2022 (Mon) 02:17:52 Id: 000000 No. 5117 [Reply]
Do accelerationists think that the ratchet effect doesn't exist? How do accelerationists explain the continued existence of North Korea?
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>>5151 >wait to be hunted down by tyrannical Nazis and Commies. Nazis, maybe. Commies will be too busy starving to death to hunt anyone down.
>>5146 >The thing about accelerationism is people who don't know what it is I always thought it was like having a drug addict brother, and instead of paying for his medical bills and rehab and bailing him out of jail for years on end, you just buy him a shit ton of drugs and tell him to OD. If that's not accelerationism then let me know what it IS called.
We are living in the end times. This lockdown is permanent. Those who thought that the US was too big to be locked down now have found out that the entire world can easily be put under house arrest. The elites will not stop because no one will resist. Even if there is a vaccine for this virus, the globalists will create another virus scare or start another crisis by saying that the Russians are coming. The ruling class will cull the 99% by using abortion, suicide, starvation, war, and concentration camps. When the government says report to the town square, run for the woods.

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Anonymous 02/09/2020 (Sun) 21:49:46 Id: f0a2aa No. 1852 [Reply]
>dharmapilled
Non-Christians get physically removed, so to speak.
You aren't a pagan or satanist, right Anon?
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>>3083 cringe >>3084 #breadpilled
The very same Americans who scream that they hate the police state then turn around and support the police. WTF?

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ANCAP TECH TREE Anonymous 02/21/2020 (Fri) 10:13:17 Id: b61ffb No. 1956 [Reply]

Discuss it.
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>>1964
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
>>1964
Technically yeah but practically infeasible
If you love freedom, you might wonder if you should spend your life savings to fight for freedom. You might wonder if your effort would do any good. You might ask yourself if Americans deserve to be saved. You might wonder if surrender is the only answer to tyranny.

whats the deal with this guy? Anonymous 04/02/2020 (Thu) 04:40:31 Id: 82ee0a No. 2513 [Reply]

apparently he wants transhumanist libertarianism, and is a Republican presidental candidate.
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If the US government lied about the Iraq war, why would you trust the government about anything else?
I had books about him. I wouldn't fare well under him.
No one cares about the big picture. Americans used to be outraged about Bruce Jenner, Greta Thunberg, statues, Epstein, Smollett, and George Floyd. Now Americans have lost their minds about Biden, but no one cares that the US is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

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Objectivism thread Anonymous 12/23/2021 (Thu) 07:36:48 Id: 1ce486 No. 5062 [Reply]
/liberty/'s opinions on Objectivism and Rand?
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Americans are completely retarded now. Americans scream that there's nothing wrong with Trump paying taxes to China if Biden did, too. Americans think being groped by the TSA is just fine if Muslims are, too. Americans say tyranny is wonderful if North Korea is a police state, too.
>>5154 I was one in 2005 or so. I am 39 years old, about to be 40
The world used to have no cities. City-states then started appearing. City-states led to countries. Now there is a global government. Hopefully, countries will break into small villages again when everything collapses. Iceland is not a free country, but maybe small places are more likely of having peace if everyone has similar values and backgrounds and everybody knows each other.

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Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 01:38:04 Id: 86ab55 No. 3321 [Reply]
Please post other libertarian forums, blogs, etc.. All I have are two podcasts from Bob Murphy and Jeff Deist once every couple weeks, and the four posts on this forum that isn't someone diaperposting. Being one of the remaining 12 libertarians in 2020 is kind of depressing.
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>>3765 I wonder if this has to do with the two-party system in the US, which has been fairly consistent, but I also wonder: is it only recently that news organizations clearly became biased in favor of one party or another?
>>3773 A lot of local newspaper in my area started as political party newspapers.
You are alive today. This is something. You may be able today to go to a cafe and eat outdoors, but don't let your guard down. Tomorrow will be worse. Americans must be totally obsessed with freedom now. Every conversation, thought, and action must be spent looking for loopholes, resisting, and prepping. The elites want to kill you. How could care you about anything else? https://www.campidiot.com/viewforum.php?id=28

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