>>1357
You've completely misunderstanding.

The guy he is replying to is making a statement about what libertarians currently say, "...libertarians will say that...", to which his answer contains no assumption about a hypothetical libertarian state existing, as it's about actual current reality.

They do teach reading comprehension in public schools, did you pass?

>>1357
The scenario in >>1317 regarding spic workers was how the proper solution for our current government, using the current tools available.

Yes, unlike the public school in which you were surely educated.

>>1344
Most of what I read was not in English so I don't really know what to recommend. I read some leftists trying to co-opt the philosophy into another cool, hip, and new leftist movement disguised under some vague 2deep4u bullshit, which is why I didn't bother with English sources, but I guess you can try reading the guys Robin Van den Akker and Timotheus Vermeulen who are supposedly the "main thinkers" of meta-modernism, but I haven't read them myself so I don't really know what they talk about. You can also check out the interviews of David Foster Wallace or even his book Infinite Jest if you have the time for it, he died shortly before meta-modernism became a thing, but his books kinda started post-irony and meta-modernism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZROwdte4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI

>Also, how do meta-irony and post-irony relate to postmodernism and metamodernism, respectively, and why not the other way around?
Because meta-irony and post-modernism is primarily about the deconstruction of concepts, while post-irony and meta-modernism is primarily about reconstruction of concepts. Post-irony reconstructs the things deconstructed by post-modernism, this is why post-modernism has no use for post-irony, post-modern people cringe at sincerity and try hard to be cynical and distanced from sincere beliefs, and post-irony is not only cringy for them but also really frustrating because they don't have a clever way to attack it and mock it, they are forced to argue sincerely against it. I don't think meta-modernism has a use for meta-irony either unless you're willing to admit that you don't really believe in anything and aren't idealistic, in which case you wouldn't be meta-modernist.

When modernists are arguing about some opposing ideals that they have, it's like a shitflinging contest where everyone tries to get as much shit onto each other while staying as clean as possible themselves, but the post-modernist, being the loser that he is and already covered head to toe in shit, would say: "if I can't win anyway, then I will make sure everyone else will lose with me" so he dives into the most toxic cesspool he can find, and then proceeds to run towards everyone and smear them in his filth, happily accepting all the shit they throw at him instead of trying to dodge it. This is what's called "meta-irony", it's impossible to insult meta-ironists because they already made a mockery of themselves and everyone else as well. They don't believe in anything, and they don't allow anyone to believe in anything. You can't insult them by calling them weak, ugly, disgusting, contemptible, etc... because they already became these things on purpose in order to make a mockery of your strength, beauty, virtue, truth and whatever else you hold sacred. Just think about your typical hipster, bull dyke, antifa retard, or anyone being "counter culture".

Post-irony on the other hand is an end to irony and a return to sincerity. Post-irony allows for idealism again, and for you to talk about something constructively instead of just attacking things with irony or meta-irony. Post-irony is when you speak about what you believe in such an absurd fashion that people can't tell if you're being ironic or not, and they go along with it anyway thinking you were joking when you were actually totally serious. It's a very effective tool for escaping censorship and SJW thought police and it can even allow you to support socially-suicidal things like fascism in public: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkLAgLDjogY

Cultural Marxism and the rampant degeneracy we have today is only possible because of post-modernism, and it's useful for libertarians to know this, because trying to explain culture via economic concepts will not give quite a satisfactory answer, you can't explain everything wrong with society with just time preference alone. If you want to know about post-modernism and its relationship with Marxism, you can check out this great lecture by based Stephen Hicks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BGbHG63x8w

>>1372
Saved, thank you. I'm thinking of making a Youtube channel one day which will debunk blue-pills, though not necessarily in such a serious format as The Academic Agent (best economics Youtuber out there, subscribe if you haven't already) nor as snarky as AltHype. I think meta-modernism is the key to all this and helps with good memery.

Yeah, I'll bet you would, lefty.

>>1356
Imagine defending the CIA

>>1356
Come on CIA, I'm a Russian bot. Keep your propaganda narratives straight!

>>1350
>propped up every Latin American dictator for the past century
Literally the only thing they did right
t. Spic

>>1362
>Ousted Fujimori in Peru
>Ousted Perez Jimenez in Venezuela
>Prepped Pinochet in Chile who killed the commies but sold the entire thing to the IMF
>Prepped passive progressives and a commie in Mexico
>Prepped a passive commie in Panama who sold almost the entire thing to the U.K. and U.S. hence the magical Canal "handover"
>Prepped military unrest in Venezuela due to OPEC shenanigans that backfired into cuban commies infiltrating the 3rd biggest oil producer
>Sabotaged Menem in Argentina which led to a jewish couple getting power for more than a decade
You are not a very good spic if you believe most of these things are okay.

>>119
Why wouldn't it be is a better question anon. Dissemination of state propaganda to it's masses has been a long tradition for nations throughout history anon. The current (((ZOG))) and (((MSM))) have gotten it tuned to a high-degree probably never seen before on a large scale. Fortunately the adage is still true: "You can't fool all of the people all of the time." The globohomo kike's time is running shorter and shorter tbh.

>How do people believe news organizations like the NYT?
Learn psychology. Some people care about status and big name publications. Some people only care about the status quo. Some people only care about muh facts, logic and reason. Some people only care about muh feels. Etc...

Human beings are different. Our brains are like different operating systems.

But it's so BLATANT. I mean, it's like emperor Ming saying, "SEND MY SECRET POLICE TO DEAL WITH HIM," and then in the very next breath saying, "Secret police? Please. We are a humanitarian nation."

>>125
Out of sight, out of mind. The people who the secret police get sent against are the only ones who even agree that secret police exist, and said people have been shut out of the major social networks which would allow them to inform others. And since most of these people are alt-right bigot Nazi white supremacists anyways, why would John Normie worry about their rights? When turned against the perceived "bad guys," no one sees the secret police as secret police.

>>119
>Deepstate
The nose that has many names

Shit, I pasted the wrong text, lacking context.

>>1197
>Main problem is that both conservatives and libertarians don't have a punishment system in their doctrine or agenda to use against those who attack Liberty.
Estoppel and helicopters.

>or make a law for neutrality and then forgive everyone
Wrong. Those who do not value private property norms are not entitled to appeal to them in their own defense.

>Right-wingers lose because they don't understand that the only way to be left alone is defeating your enemies.
See above. Criticism like this would be easier to take seriously if you didn't equivocate TP-USA Kochsuckers with the entirety of the right.

I wish julay had more users, I don't think we recovered all the guys we had on 8ch.

Fuck statists

Trans libertarian rights

Fascist literally hate one thing, and it's fucking disgusting:

>>1143
>Fascist literally hate one thing, and it's fucking disgusting.
>Freedom of speech, press, assembly, and right to bear arms.
Nope yes fascism say's "the people must serve the state so the state can benefit the people"but under fascism in Italy people were allowed to own guns under national socialism you would have far more rights then under fascism but still fascism is still restrictive of everything else you said though also national socialism is were the state benefits the people and the gov is made small and effective

>>832
>still manages to exist
>will still be there the moment CCP rule collapses and crosses the strait to pick up the pieces
>btfo
Tiananmen Square 1989

>>836
This.

Tiananmen Square 1989.

>>146
This is the results from last week's district elections in hk. The pro-china party got decimated. They lost the majority of their seats. Something like 80% of the people voted for the opposition.

>>1005
>DAB got dabbed on
Like a symphony...

>>747
Kek this faggot tripfag got banned on /fascist/ today too

>>764
>They seem to be doing both and they're winning.
Leftists are only winning in the sense that they are successfully co-opting every major institution by means of manipulation and deceit, not winning arguments or shit like that. Egalitarians get continuously humiliated on the internet because they can't win people with their ideas, so they have instead subverted all relevant institutions so they can censor all dissent and impose their tranny doctrine on everyone. If you think they are "winning debates" then you're delusional, their success comes exclusively from their usual commie tactics.

You point out that the faggot is being disingenuous himself. He whines about the opposing side changing definitions, but fails to solidify around one himself. Whinging and moaning about "how could someone feed themself on only $1 per day?" without taking into consideration the Consumer Price Index and that while it might cost three dollars for a gallon of milk in the States it isn't the same cost in Bumfuckistan, so it doesn't mean the turdworlder can only buy a third of a gallon of milk per day.

>>785
Wait is he actually ignoring purchasing power of the US dollar in these countries?

Is he actually being this disingenuous?
Commies aren't THAT stupid are they?

>>787
He's measuring poverty increasing on the basis of those currently living on a dollar or less than a dollar per day. His main complaint being they changed the definition from $1.02 from $1.08 which suddenly gets many people above the 'poverty line'. Or changing one from $1.25 to $1.08.

He also cuts out the factor of fertility rates and population increase in those countries.

>>2144
mfw Hoppe is getting older.

>>2196
no

>>2197
It IS bad when the government does it!

>>2199
>It's okay when I, le true individual(tm), do it!
Lolbergism at its finest

If you want some more groups there are these:

Voluntarists: similar to ancaps but with a focus on voluntary societies so structures of society may vary. That and from my experience they had more hippie leaning social views.

Agorists: Agorism is more of a strategy than an ideology but basically it focuses on doing things outside of the state and white market. They focus on grey market stuff like getting paid underneath the table, starving the state of tax revenue and aquaponics. They tend to talk a lot about aquaponics.

Bleeding heart libertarians: I guess you could say these are the more "left libertarian" types you've heard about. They use libertarianism to focus on social issues like sex work and stuff like that.

>>1504
Also I forgot one thing about the bleeding heart libertarians, you don't see them around that much nowadays. They were more noticeable around 2014-2016 I think.

In Russia we have these kinds of libertarian groups:

Probably relax and start saving money knowing it's going to increase in value and in a few years I'm barely going to have to work lol

>>880
Patrician taste, would invest my gold in your scenario 1 and 2

Get a job?