>even looking at pictures posted online could potentially get you thrown in prison what the fuck is wrong with 'murica

>>2812 that map is retarded and completely wrong and people need to stop posting it already >>2815 nothing. you're an idiot for believing every single thing you see on the internet. america is one of the few countries where loli is legal. some other countries in the EU have legal loli as well, such as the netherlands and sweden (as long as it's not 3DCG loli). why do you think america is, legally speaking, such a good place for hosting imageboards? because of american constitution and the law doing literally fucking nothing when you dump gigabytes of loli and say "gas the kikes." sometimes in america this is against the hosting provider's terms of service, but it's not against the law. america is one of the most loli friendly countries in the world, arguably the most since japan has censorship laws on all porn. you won't get v& for loli in america unless you go full retard and are in possession of actually illegal stuff. loli is illegal everywhere in canada and people have been prosecuted for it repeatedly. people who were in possession of nothing but loli, literally nothing else. canada has ruled loli is illegal. UK is even worse about it, UK is one of the worst countries for free speech in general and they have extreme hate speech laws where you can get v& for comments on facebook about how you don't really like muslims. shit thread, quit being retarded

>>2818 >of the few countries you are just showing the same or higher level of retardation as the person who made the map

>>2819 no, because there are countries now that have illegalized loli. canada, UK, ireland, australia, NZ, norway, russia, france, and poland I know for sure have absolutely zero tolerance for anything they personally deem to be CP which includes completely fictional stuff. this makes US the only english-speaking country with legal loli and one of the few western countries with legal loli. the only other countries I know for SURE where loli is legal are japan (obviously), the netherlands, sweden (no 3DCG), switzerland, and I think germany. come back with some real data before you call me retarded or go jump off a fucking cliff, thanks.

>>2822 Back at you. Please list relevant laws and conviction statistics (particularly important in common law countries), and then we'll delve into long boring discussion about what is and what isn't "loli" and how does that correspond to legal definitions (particularly important in civil law countries). Actually we won't. I'm not that devoted, you retard.

>>2823 >your posts that contain actual information aren't enough to counter my posts that say nothing more than "ur retarded" so post even more shit plz <I fully admit I will not actually respond to your posts in any capacity and will just call you a retard, u r retard u retard stupidest post I've read all year, congrats. remove yourself from the gene pool you turbo nigger. done responding to someone who is self-admittedly arguing in bad faith

>>2827 you realized I'm not even trying only now? are you retarded or what? I was hoping to inspire you to do your own research as I saw your education lacking ("you won't get v& unless you do something illegal" no shit, god bless america). you really think a list of countries you copied from wikipedia is "real data" and "actual information"? do you even law bro? also stop being so butthurt that someone dared to use the same insult you used against you lol

It seems like you have to make do in this current situation. Buy an old android phone from somewhere in 2015 and SD card. The only thing I know is old 2015 phone only supports 128GB only and that was the highest for that time.

>>2818 Most of the western world is fucked, but murica is not same safe haven, either. Where I live, loli is explicitly legal. It's even mentioned and excluded by definition in groundwork text for law concerning real ceepee (that only came into force because of pressure from you anglos, anyway, it was nowhere near 18 before that and only covered hardcore only a few year ago). 3d rendered loli is also legal, if in any way separable from real photo, unlike murica. It is also legal to base it on real children, although not on real ceepee situation of said childer, unlike murica where you have to think if some fictional character is "based" on real non-lewd child actor. It is also legal to import it in physical format (I have tons almost all of LO plus tons of other stuff in paperback), to sell and distribute. Via postal system or any other way. Customs taxes it for VAT and that's it. That, and possession of real pizza being only a misdemeanor here, usually fine and confiscation of imagery, not even suspended sentence, let alone risk of getting assraped by Jamal.

I would be interested to know which country has such liberal laws?

>>3177 I don't know about importation of lewd material like doujins or toys, but in Mexico all forms of loli/shota porn are legal because the law only considers CP when real minors are involved in something sexual, be it real (like sucking a cock) or simulated (like sucking a popsicle shaped like a cock). At worst the "loli" porn that literally are photos of real minors with a shit "cartoon" filter applied would be troublesome, but nothing on the line of what is posted here or in sites like sadpanda (3DCG included).

>>3181 I'm not that poster btw

>>3177 Europoor country. All claims above can be confirmed from open legal sources if you know the langugae but I'd rather not draw any more attention to it in this current climate as there has already been several instances of moralfag foreign authorities making complaints (yes, really, neighboring country tipping off local authorities to things that are not crimes here but according to them should be, obviously didn't lead to anything). And I don't consider this place liberal at all, for there have been few precedents of people having their extremely normalfag mainstream teen porn collections (like Ariel Rebel stuff) confiscated under the ceepee pretense and receiving slap on the wrist for them, for they didn't care to inquire US record holders for model IDs and it being only a misdemeanor, I doubt anyone has really fought it to supreme court. Not that they specifically come for that stuff, but if your computer gets confiscated for some other reason, they like to slap extra (misdemeanor) charges if they can. There is nothing prohibiting young looking real porn models per se, but they just assume that if they are more than 50% likely under 18 yo based on looks, they are prohibited. They don't give two shits about fiction, though, so it's literally safer to have any form of extreme toddlercon content than mainstream teen porn. Laugh if you will. At least I can confirm it is a myth that EU made it mandatory to ban loli in any form in all member states, there are huge differences in how it's implemented on national level, to what I know they only absolutely require ban on so realistic photoshops and 3d renders that can not be realistically separated from real abuse photos, in order to avoid using it a defense in court (that this here real ceepee is only photoshopped fiction, mr. prosecutor). Not average quality 3d, definitely not drawn loli, not stories, not loli sex dolls, not anything else. Just photorealistic cg, and that can be interpreted so strictly literally no image as of current year fits the quality standard. Also pretty much each and every tightening of the real ceepee laws, copyright laws and internet surveillance laws here have come from foreign pressure, be it directly from EU or indirectly from US. From this pov the US is anything but bastion of liberty. Rather excellent at restricting other nations' freedoms in order to make its own limited freedoms look better in comparison. Don't get me started on EU, either. The sooner it breaks up the better. >>3165

shit i live in one of those red zones

The map is not accurate. Hasn't been for years. Drawn loli and shota is legal everywhere in the USofA as long as it wasn't taken from real photos of real people. 3d and photorealistic is sometimes prosecuted. Keep in mind that possessing loli and shota may give gung-ho prosecutors 'probable cause' in searching you and your computer for the real thing, so encrypt everything. Do not talk to cops. Lawyer time if arrested.

>>3198 you can also just not have any real cheese pizza and not worry about all of that. the real stuff sucks anyway, 3DPD just cant have the level of quality of the good stuff

>>3200 This, it just isn't worth the risk art all

laws or views anyone know

>>4856 Law does not exist in Africa. Even if they have legislation, its meaningless paper that isn't enforced. As long as you don't actively fuck with politicians or their immediate circle of acquaintances, you can do whatever the hell you want

>>2812 Its legal everywhere if you have a good vpn and a shut mouth ;)

Stop bumping this thread, you stupid faggots.

>>2812 You should try hijacking Harvard's wifi whenever you are browsing porn.

Doesn’t the PROTECT act still make it illegal?

>>8600 Not really, unless someone can prove it isn't art when taken to court, which again comes back to retarded inconsistently applied obscenity laws.

>>8600 >>8601 Here it is. It's legal until it isn't. Which is to say, it's legal until you're reported, because good fucking luck getting a jury that won't find your scribbles of little anime girls getting violated to be obscene and lacking artistic merit. Never bareback an imageboard.

>>8600 >>8602 But again, these laws are applied terribly. Technically, it's federally illegal to move obscene material across state lines, and with obscenity being defined by being "patently offensive to community standards", if someone decided to report you for watching regular old porno, which undoubtedly you downloaded across state lines, and you contest the charge and go to court, you could be convicted if you get a jury with enough tight assed Christian boomers that believe porno is a sin and should be illegal. Obviously this never happens, and in the case of loli, it happens vary rarely, for various reasons, those being, >It's rarely properly reported People report loli as CP to anti-CP hotlines and other such authorities. Those people don't look at 1466a, they look at actual CP laws, and find that drawings don't count, ignore those reports, and even beg people to stop reporting cartoons to them and wasting their time when they're trying to stop actual child predation. >People don't contest the charges, or take plea deals If you don't fight for your rights, you basically have none, and can easily go to jail/prison for tons of things that aren't even illegal. >1466a is used to stack charges against pedos If someone caught with CP also has loli, the prosecution may take note of this and use it to stack another charge. People caught with CP aren't going to attempt to fight for the legality of loli, they're going to take a plea deal. 1466a is very rarely used on its own. So there you go. It's "legal" until it isn't. The probability in the US of going to pound me the ass prison where they straight up murder you for being a "pedo" for having loli is low, but never zero. Never bareback an imageboard. Always encrypt your shit, et cetera. Unless you have money and live somewhere like California where Fakku gets away with selling the occasional loli work, and of course, tons of hentai featuring under 18 high schoolers which is legally the same as loli. I almost forgot to mention that. This applies to tons of shit that isn't loli as well, because the Japs love their highschool settings. Stay safe out there anons. The law is not on your side.

>>8603 >People report loli as CP to anti-CP hotlines and other such authorities. Those people don't look at 1466a, they look at actual CP laws, and find that drawings don't count, ignore those reports, and even beg people to stop reporting cartoons to them and wasting their time when they're trying to stop actual child predation. Not quite true, at least not for the NCMEC/Cybertipline: They do forward all reports to law enforcement, including fictional stuff, it's just that in the US it's law enforcement who don't really care. However, they also refer reports (most reports actually) to law enforcement in other countries, and if the stuff is illegal in those countries, this might initiate an investigation. Something to note in this context: Most NCMEC reports actually come from online platforms and hosting providers, who are required in the US to forward suspected CP to them (and some companies in other countries do that voluntarily), but how and what they report is wildly inconsistent - some also report fictional stuff, while others don't (I know for a fact that Imgur and Pornhub do, for example, while 4chan only reports actual CP). In any case, I would keep my stash away from any larger online platforms and from any kind of cloud storage provider without proper e2e encryption - seems like a quick way to not only get your account b&, but maybe even reported to the cops and - depending where you live - actually v&.

>>2812 What about Latin America? Mexico is super lax and Argentina is super strict I think. Where does Peru fall into this? I know Ecuador is cucked like Argentina. I saw some people saying it may have been against the law there by technicality.

>>3181 Based Mexibro. Much thanks from somewhere in the middle of Perukistan.

>>8876 > and Argentina is super strict I think. Argentina doesn't made a clear statement in regarding drawn porn, but it's still a 3rd world country so it's kinda hard to get caught with that and get charged to begin with.