>>22034 Dude, I'm a huge leftist. He's not a lefty, he's just a retard. Like a fucking moron. He knows as much about socioeconomics as an ant knows about trigonometry. He's been taught some sanitized version of communism that somehow jumps from "Capitalist Dystopia" to "Fuck you everything is free now"

>>21996 I suggest all apologists of the superiority of the white race go to Russia and see the "best of people" up close. All this stupid nonsense about "white greatness" will immediately disappear. However, there is no need to go to Russia, there is plenty of white trash in the USA too. If I write to someone, asking for help as a "white brother", I will be declared crazy. Blue-eyed blond Evan is rejected. So there is no such thing as "white solidarity". >>22030 Because I don't want such people in our community to BE! I don't want to play "guessing game" (who is in front of me: a sincere pedobear or a huckster), when I write to those who publish their drawings with loli and shota. I don't want to run into assholes who only pretend to be pedobears! I don't want my sincere heartfelt desire to find those who love the characters that I like, as well as the desire to introduce people to cute heroes unknown to them, to be called begging and imposition, thereby spitting in my heart! I don't want this mercantile mold to destroy and distort fandoms, turning selfless fan communication into commodity-money! I don't want hundreds of characters to be deprived of attention! I want it to be like before, like in the early 2010s, when it was unthinkable for a sholicon artist to charge his brothers; they knew from their own experience what a rare happiness it was to find their own, like themselves, who loved loli and shota; they knew that most of us were not oligarchs. The community was very small, but very active and welcoming. Every newcomer was a dear guest, everyone was appreciated and remembered. Any like, comment, letter or request was met with delight and gratitude. Now everyone is spoiled by the availability of content and platforms (Twitter was then in its infancy, and only the Japanese knew about Pixiv and sat on it) and do not know this feeling of joyful trepidation and goosebumps, when you suddenly find brothers; when a thousand people on the forum was considered an incredible number. I remember the now defunct Shotachan in its early years and that unique atmosphere of unity and accessibility. And I want it all back! For you, sholicon is measured only in money! You shamelessly parasitize on what is dear to us! You are a tumor on the body of our community. But, glory to progress, the tumor did not have time to destroy us completely, because a panacea appeared - AI. You are just dying metastases. Imagine that your parents brought you into the world not out of love and the desire to have a child, but in order to make you a slave-prostitute and make money on you. Is the analogy clear? If you do not understand, then I will convey to you as if you were stupid: THERE ARE THINGS ON WHICH IT IS BLASPHEUS AND EVEN CRIMINAL TO MAKE MONEY! Now the profiteers have become so brazen that even in this practically dead thread https://8chan.moe/sm/res/864.html of free requests for shota-drawings, they brazenly came to PR themselves, but not to draw. CasyTay is the nickname of one of these bastards. Spit in her face if you meet her. >>22035 >>22034 I have said more than once that I am not a communist, but a centrist. You don't have to be a Bolshevik to hate and despise the mercantile, for whom everyone else is not people, but wallets. Luigi Mangione and the Russian Decembrists, who loathed the rich, came from noble families and were not communists. Franklin Roosevelt and Adolf Hitler, who demanded in an ultimatum that the magnates share their super-profits with the people, were not leftists either. The ardent anti-communist and fascist Ivan Ilyin wrote: "An owner who lacks a sense of responsibility and a sense of supra-class solidarity, who disposes of his property to the detriment of others and acts antisocially, must be convinced that his way of acting is reprehensible, that his property enjoys less protection, that such management turns out to be economically, legally and morally disadvantageous for him, so that he himself would want to take a different path, etc."

All this blahblahblah to say that you don't want to work, and just receive wellfare money You're parasite, end your life

>>22115 You.

>>22110 >I have said more than once that I am not a communist, but a centrist. Yeah, like we said, you're a fucking retard

Pseudo-artists have devalued the concept of art and deprived it of its sacredness so much that now the word "artist" makes people grimace with hostility. Any post where a person declares that he draws is met not with admiration or interest, but with skepticism and ridicule. Because drawing is now firmly associated not with creativity, but with commerce. This is how "artists" are "warmly welcomed" on the Russian analogue of Reddit: https://pikabu.ru/story/kak_v_29_let_poteryat_sebya_a_potom_vnov_nayti_v_iskusstve_12786449 And this despite the fact that she did not openly advertise her commercial orientation. Those who directly postulate their mercantilism are cruelly bullied by the people: https://2ch.su/o/res/80618.html Earlier, when you revealed a new character to someone, you were thanked. Now they react as if you came not with a cute loli, but dragged a dead rat. It was impossible to imagine in the old days that you, telling about a character, would be looked at with hostility. Another red marker of a pseudo-artist. "I don't know this character" in response to your story. Not "He/she didn't catch my attention, didn't seem interesting", but "I don't know". Which clearly reads as "Why did you bring me a loli/shota, I'm not uninterested in this! Bring me money!" How do people even get to know characters? You accidentally saw a picture and liked the unfamiliar character depicted in it and you start searching for information about him. Because we all love with our eyes first and foremost, and only then begin to learn about the biography. A true sholicon would evaluate a character from the point of view of visual triggers and only then would he say whether it made his heart beat faster or did not shake him at all, not finding in him a desire to get to know him. The Huckster does not evaluate in any way, he does not linger on the picture for more than a second, because the only thing he is interested in is money, and therefore he lies so artlessly and monosyllabically, completely giving away his essence. On 4chan, I often see posts like "Why are artists so stupid and draw the same thing and follow not ideas and discoveries, but trends and hype!" And indeed, you are amazed at how limited pseudo-artists are in their mass, how narrow their cultural baggage is. Let's take, for example, a character like Marisa Kirisame. What do they draw with her? How she flies on a broom, drinks tea with Reimu, or just stands or sits. And there are tens of thousands of such similar drawings. They don’t even try to create something special, their brains are frozen like jelly, they copy the same pattern, without trying to show even a little originality. When you write to them, they get angry not only because you can’t pay them, but also because your creativity and imagination are like a blow to their pride, sharply reminding them how bad they are with ideas. Why do you think there is such a position as an art director? Because most (pseudo)artists can only draw, but not invent and think through. And the job of an art director is to give them ideas and direct them. >>21974 Also, if anyone hasn’t seen it, this cunt, among other things, also lied that she needed money to treat sick animals. As if I don't remember her previous accounts (@sameppp, now banned), where she posted photos of her rich life. She is one of those morbidly greedy people, like this Polish millionaire and his wife, who stole a cap with an autograph from a boy at the US Open: https://mel.fm/vospitaniye/sovety/8261950-privet-eto-mama-srochno-nuzhna-tvoya-pomoshch-kak-zashchitit-rebenka-ot-obmana-v-seti?infNews=true. I wish her a personal Hiroshima. In conclusion, a fresh screenshot from a furry artist channel, where they admit that they have long lost the ability to feel, and now their only incentive is money. The audience is also largely to blame for the fact that artists have become impudent. They have been overfed with adoration and honor, out of naivety, of course, from the belief in the community of thoughts. It is not for nothing that biblical wisdom says "Do not make yourself an idol!" People have forgotten that a creator without an audience is nothing and no one. That without those who can appreciate his work, his work loses its meaning. People were embarrassed to remind them that without them he is simply no one. Now is the time to destroy the ivory towers and force the arrogant little gods to come down to earth. Either they will remember where, where and with whom they started, or artificial intelligence will crush them along with censorship.

This short and emotional video will say it best for me, about how blind worship of authorities is humiliation of oneself, denial of one's right to a voice and opinion. FUCK AUTHORITIES!

>>22140 God you're the most verbose retard I've ever seen. Jesus fucking christ, go write your manifesto and get shot while doing your retard mass shooting.

>>22142 Pfft, it would be strange to expect any other comment from a pseudo-artist. You and your gang have a brain the size of a grain of barley. Therefore, a text longer than a couple of words causes a BSOD in your nanobrain.

All talk and still no muh BSC.

>>22143 Nah you're just a retard that thinks that writing a bunch of words makes somehow intelligent and sophisticated, while your entire point is quite simple and moronic You put to shame any crooked politician in that regards, you should work in the Putin regime I bet they'll love to have someone like you

My friends told me that one of those whores I wrote to was offended (if she hadn't been furious that I had torn off her mask, revealing her huckster nature, she wouldn't have created this post) by my reproach: https://baraag.net/@crybleat/114796357381506100 I remember her. She silently blocked me when I wrote to her on Pixiv. A typical huckster creature who came to the community only for money, like CasyTay. But this is not the only thing that is noteworthy. In the comments under the post, I saw Xienoan. He is Russian. He started his journey with the 2ch imageboard. There is even a thread of his drawings from 2017 preserved there. A striking example of how money spoils a person. From a modest and sociable guy, he mutated into a greedy businessman and hides in every possible way that he is from Russia. I remembered another such asshole, even if he did not mark himself under that post. RedKeji. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/5491233 He is also from the Russian Federation, which is evidenced (I am publishing screenshots). I have heard many complaints about him from Russian shota brothers. He always ignores letters, and his price tag is exorbitant even for the rich West. I am watching him and am ready to destroy his accounts at the first opportunity. I also noticed Negi-Bozu there. Where he is from, I do not know. But I remember that I wrote to him and he also responded with silence. Another one for whom shota is a soulless conveyor belt. Many here think that I only threaten with words and there is no action behind them. While I have destroyed many accounts of those who are among us only for the sake of earning money. Earlier in the thread I told and showed who I destroyed, and this is only a small part. >>22150 Putin is a cannibal, but the West is no better. Once upon a time I believed that the West was home to white-toothed smiling rich people who were ready to respond to a request for help. And then I saw that it was all a lie. The grotesque Soviet caricatures that people used to make fun of, including me, have become the merciless truth.

What a pathetic liar and plagiarist this Jap is. He was caught red-handed, and he denies it. Even kindergarteners lie more convincingly.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I couldn't even dream of better proof of my thesis that most loli-shota artists are businessmen, not brothers! As soon as he lost the way to make money from us, all his love for loli and shota disappeared like the wind! I even found a screenshot in my archives where this despicable asshole declares that he draws only for money.

>>22160 >>22161 >actually harassing Nip artists with your schizophrenia

>I'm so fucking autistic nobody wants to give me a job wah wah wah Holy shit you're fucking pathetic, if not an outright liar

When I was digging around looking for a screenshot of Graves' duplicity, I found a few more illustrative examples of treachery on the part of pseudo-artists. >>22164 I am a precariat. Sometimes I have a job. And this money is barely enough for the bare necessities, although even so I managed to assemble a computer that allows me to use AI, because even so it is several times cheaper than the price lists of pseudo-artists. You, rich Western bastards, cannot understand what it means to live in non-Western Europe, Japan or the USA. What for you is a one-time trip to a cafe, for a resident of Russia the opportunity to live for a couple of months. >>22161 You simply have nothing to argue with, so you break down into insults, unable to master what I have written, not to mention how you are twisted by the truth that I have made public. I do not suck my words out of my finger, I disclose all my theses in detail, always attach proof and links. Then you, like a hysterical monkey, fart with your mouth and throw excrement, trying to drown out the words and facts that are inconvenient for you. You can howl and rage as much as you like, but everything happens exactly as I said. Graves' passing is a clear example of this. If he were a true lolisho, he would have painted until his death, but as soon as the flow of money dried up, he went crazy and tore off his mask, revealing his huckster face.

Another "miraculous metamorphosis" of the pseudo-artist. She deleted all her old accounts and started a new one, where she pretends that she never had anything to do with shotacon and lolicon. And she really had nothing to do with it, except for the thirst for money. And I think you've already heard about BORN-TO-DIE here without me.

Cynical revelations from the chat of a Russian-speaking furry artist, where she admits that she doesn’t draw fan art even for her own pleasure, because it won’t bring her any money.

I remember how this swindler literally sang like a nightingale when he promised to draw me Evan and Hans. I thought he was a kind and sincere person who found Evan and Hans inspiring. But then the promised drawing began to be constantly postponed. But as a person who by default considers the person I am writing to to be decent, I thought that he had some circumstances. After my last reminder message, I did not write to him anymore, as I promised. I remembered him a year later and saw that he was taking commissions, and I was on his blacklist. Mmm, another werewolf who dropped the mask of a bosom buddy.

And "for dessert", two incredibly fucking awesome characters from my archive. The first one, asking for money, refused to generate a picture for me using AI. And the second one demanded payment to make a static picture in Blender with a ready-made model, and the model was not his. This process takes a few minutes at most. The most vile thing is that at first he cordially showed interest in creating this scene. But after almost a year (!), when I wrote to him again, it was as if he had been replaced, aggression literally out of nowhere. I did not remain in debt and destroyed all his accounts with reports to tech support. Having at their disposal powerful tools that allow you to easily implement any idea, they used them not for the pleasure and happiness of themselves and others, but only for money. It's as if a machine for creating endless food literally out of nothing was run by a person whose goal is not to feed the whole world, but to make money off the starving. People like that should be burned alive in car tires. Extreme greed that almost causes physical disgust.

Pseudo-artists openly piss on the faces of their audience, showing in memes about themselves what (money) drawing actually means to them. A pseudo-artist is not a brother-coomer who is looking for awesome ideas to satisfy his lust and will be glad to hear your cool suggestions so that both you and he can cum on his drawing. We are perverts for them, they turn away in disgust when they have a dialogue with us, but our money does not stink for them. And how can they pretend to be friends, it is well said here: https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1jq701n/comment/ml6cp0v/

>>22235 so let me get this straight, retard. Someone refused to do work for you without compensation? Wow, pack it in folks, civilization is dead and the west has fallen.

>>22143 You're either an artist or you don't draw, there's no inbetween. There is, however a Pseudo Intellectual, and that's you

Pseudo-artists appropriated the loli/shota community, claiming that only those who could draw and had money had the right to see their dreams realized in drawing. They weren't the conduits and gatekeepers of ideas that the artists of old were (I'm so old that I remember when artists themselves asked for ideas and fantasies and eagerly seized them), but their jailers, mercilessly denying even the cutest characters and most striking images unless they were backed by money. Because of them, the community was mired in monotony, copying, and blindly following trends for many years. We still don't realize the damage they caused: HOW MANY characters and fantasies we lost during the years of pseudo-artists' dictates. HOW MANY stories remained untold, HOW MANY heroes were forgotten. But greed wasn't the only reason. The pseudo-artists were terribly jealous that someone who couldn't draw possessed greater taste, cultural background, and imagination than they, who had achieved the pinnacle of drawing techniques but lacked imagination and flair. The pseudo-artists foam at the mouth with rage at AI, not understanding that even the most perfect neural network is nothing without an operator and their imagination. Fantasies come to life only if there's someone to generate them. AI doesn't generate anything on its own; it's merely a tool in human hands. Without neural networks, we would never have seen so many vibrant scenes and stories! I see people breaking free from the shackles and casting off the hated overseers in the form of pseudo-artists. Now nothing constrains their imagination. No one anymore decides who is worthy and who is doomed to remain in limbo. If pseudo-artists can't grasp the simple idea that I can't pay them not because I don't want to, but because I can't, and that most of the Earth is barely making ends meet, if they lack a shred of solidarity, reciprocity, and empathy, then to hell with them in our community! If they don't leave peacefully, we and the neural networks will force them to leave, along with such unlikely allies (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) as politicians, moralists, and banks. We will cut the ground from under their feet, destroying any possibility of monetization. As the Japanese song "Miya-san, Miya-san" from the Boshin War goes: "No one really wants to kill and drive people out of the country. But they resist the forces of Satsuma, Choshu, Tosa, and Hizen." I wouldn't want this war either, but things have gotten so bad that radical measures, including the complete destruction of commerce in the sholicon community and the complete abolition of all those who demanded money, are unavoidable. These pseudo-artists don't understand that the viewer and their interaction with them are even more important than the work itself. Without the viewer and their response, the author is simply an empty space, a vacuum that cannot be filled. A work, according to Roland Barthes, comes to life only when it finds its audience. Have you disconnected yourself from your audience, imagined yourself as demiurges, and reduced us to the level of disenfranchised plebeians? Then we declare secession (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessio_plebis). Just how fed up people are with pseudo-artists can be easily seen by going to Twitter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1lidyt7/200k_likes_on_an_antiai_post_people_are_tired_of/ True artists hate pseudo-artists no less than the average philistine. Because thanks to the actions of hucksters, art has lost its sacredness, and in the eyes of society, anyone who paints is perceived not as a creator, but as just another crook. Anyone seeking genuine art has to sift through tons of commercial manure in which you've drowned everything. You've obscured true creators, preventing them from being heard, and preventing them from being seen.

>>22276 You only have one refrain: money. You haven't even once expressed your opinion about Nanachi, Evan, Alice, Hans, or the others I've mentioned. NOT ONCE. NOT A SINGLE WORD. This speaks volumes about you and those like you. If you all looked for new characters and ideas yourselves, I wouldn't be needed, I wouldn't have to go around "preaching," trying to open people's eyes to dozens of charming characters; the problem raised by this thread wouldn't even exist. But you seek nothing, you fantasize about nothing, you love nothing. The only thing that ignites and draws you is money. The West, if it hasn't fallen, is already close to it. Europe is being overrun by Islamists, the left is abandoning its countries to hordes of savage migrants, Britain is imposing censorship, America is being overwhelmed by a fentanyl epidemic that is turning people into half-corpses, entire neighborhoods are like the set of a zombie apocalypse, Trump has proven to be as worthless as the demented Biden, Russia, India, and China are creating a new Axis of Evil, and the US military is being openly called a chicken in eagle's skin. The West that my generation admired in childhood and adolescence no longer exists. Even the Russian opposition doesn't hide its contempt for the West, having become utterly disillusioned with it. >>22277 I'm not trying to look smarter than I am, and I don't claim intellectual laurels. I'm simply laying out the problem, supporting my words with facts. I'm simply presenting inconvenient facts that you, hucksters, have no counterargument with. So the only thing you can do is helplessly hurl insults at me, turning me into a straw man. Admitting your own wrongness and the damage you've done to the community is impossible for you, because you lack an ounce of love for lolis and shotas.

Another example (she identified herself as leftist in her Baraag profile) of the left's duplicity. When I wrote to her, she responded with complete silence. But as soon as I reproached her, she went into hysterics on her blog. They're leftist only in relation to themselves, not others. Even I, a centrist, respect the leftists of past decades for their fanaticism, integrity, and self-sacrifice. But people like this fake leftist would have been shot by the Chonovites in 1918 as opportunists denigrating the cause of the revolution. On top of that, she literally embodies the infamous meme about mentally unstable furry artists who constantly invent stories and excuses to delay orders and collect donations. You can see how they complain about their supposedly poor lives, amidst expensive consoles, lavishly furnished rooms with anime figurines, and tons of restaurant food and fast food here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1lidyt7/200k_likes_on_an_antiai_post_people_are_tired_of/ We have similar assholes in Russia too: for example, the bitch @FlashWhite_, who lives in an elite mansion, is supported by her father, keeps a serval as a pet, and whines on Twitter about how hard life is for her.

That guy in the screenshot is literally me. At the prices these pseudo-artists charge, you could build a computer capable of handling AI for five of their "commissions." They're so arrogant they don't even understand the enormous sums they're asking us for.

>>22276 >Chonovites in 1918 Чоновцы https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F >>22140 >(@sameppp, now banned) Here, I inadvertently wrote the name of this >>21884 bitch's account, while the conversation there was about yuki2 >>21974 (screenshot 1), who lied to me about sick animals in her care.

Another piece of shit who uses Shotacon as a way to pay bills, ignoring the community. I hope he dies penniless in a ditch or in jail with a broom handle up his ass. It will be very soon: the time for people like him is over: I can already see many being swept away by the mighty tide of neural networks. Artists from the early days of Shota/Loli forums never raised the issue of money, even though many of them lived very poorly. Because they put love first and knew that their fellow loli/shota lovers were just as poor.

Stop being poor Ivan

>>22350 I'm not reading your dipshit fake greek, retard

>>22347 >I'm not trying to look smarter than I am It's pretty clear to me you have NO clue how stupid you look.

>>22348 "THE LEFT NEED MONEY TO EAT FOOD, WHY ARE LEFTISTS SO UNDISCIPLINED! WAH WAH WAH!" -Vatnik Retard