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Total commercialization of loli/shota-artists and community Anon 11/27/2024 (Wed) 17:21:07 No. 18725
My text will seem provocative, even radical. But this is a cry from the heart. It worries me that in the last few years, most loli/shota artists have become driven solely by monetizing their talent. Love, sincerity and passion have long been pushed aside by them. This is extremely destructive to the unity of the loli/shota-community. Many of us have more than once encountered the sad and disappointing situation when you write to your favorite artist about some interesting characters, but do not receive any response. They evaluate characters not in terms of their attractiveness and uniqueness, but in terms of profit and popularity. So many cute loli and shota unfairly remain in the shadows, but artists, following the hype, are churning out Naruto, Killua, Hilda, Bridget, Pomni and Luz by the thousands! And when you sincerely try to convey this to them, they react aggressively. Almost everyone is familiar with cases when a modest and kind artist, having acquired money and fame, turned into a greedy and arrogant one. The transformation (more correctly, deformation) of many of them reached the point that they completely lost the habit of drawing for pleasure and inspiration, because it is free and will not bring in income. They may not paint for months if they don't have orders. Their motivation to draw has become unlearned to come from incentives other than financial ones. Terrifying! It sounds like a nightmarish dystopia, but, alas, this is a frequent reality and a sad example of degradation. When you don't have money (and many of us are from poor countries, including me), artists don't even look at you. And when you are rich like Croesus, they greet you with curtsies and run after you almost at a skip. Those of us who are poor have become poor relatives to the rich, who dissociate themselves from him in every possible way. We, like the little match girl from Hans Christian Andersen's sad fairy tale, can only admire from afar. Another shocking revelation is that some of them are not loli and shotalovers, but came to drawing because it is a lucrative topic. "Money doesn't smell." They declare with cynical frankness that they hate what they draw and those they draw to, but they tolerate it because of the big money. "You're a broke, balding, fat, sweaty, old jerk who stinks of cum!" - a true loli/shota-bro will never say such words towards his brother. An excellent marker that allows you to determine whether this or that artist is bro or not is AI. Bro ardently supports AI, knowing what great happiness AI brings to brothers. But the non-bro, who is in the community only for mercantile reasons, begins to writhe from the AI like a vampire from a holy crucifix. They start screaming about “capitalism and evil corporations depriving them of income,” although they themselves, like Scrooge, recently humiliated the poor man who was naive to turn to them. I do not want to say that artists should selflessly sacrifice for the sake of society and devote themselves to serving it, fulfilling everyone's dreams, never taking a penny, completely forgetting and rejecting their own interests. I want artists to be well-fed and live in abundance, without worrying about tomorrow. I’m just for balance, when sincere creativity and creativity for the sake of earning money are shared equally, without a bias in one direction or another. Twitter before Musk's arrival created a dangerous illusion among loli/shota artists that they were now in a legal field. They forgot how fragile their position is. They must remember who they are and that they are in the same boat with their poor bros. If this continues, we will turn into a disgrace like the furry-community, which has long been said to have become a club for the rich.
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>>22467 The bastard paid for his greed, duplicity, and arrogance. Just a few reports to Twitter support from me, and his account was destroyed. Unfortunately, Twitter's support team can sometimes ignore reports, but if they do accept them, they ban mercilessly and permanently. This time, they acted quite quickly. I've lost count of how many of these hypocrites I've destroyed. I can't call myself vain, but it warms my heart to know that pseudo-artists don't go unpunished. This post is just another reminder for anyone who thinks I'm just making proclamations. I'll end with lines from the song "Invisible Battle": Our service is both dangerous and difficult And at first glance, it seems invisible If someone somewhere among us sometimes Doesn't want to live honestly Then we must wage an invisible battle with them This is what fate has ordained for us Service day and night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMO4gg5ooeM
>>18748 >Note that she expresses hatred (DNI MAP) towards pedosexuals while drawing shotacon. The most unmistakable marker of a pseudo-shotaco lmao. Most of this site's install base draws a thick line between loli/shota and pedoshit, and have a deep seated hatred of pedoniggers because every time they're allowed a platform they post cheeze pizza. Go back to the dorkweb, pedofag.
>>22465 You got me too, lmao. >>22472 Russian and a pedo? How stereotypical.
>>22493 I don't know about pedosexuals but if YOU drowned in the sea I'd be alright
>>22494 Link to your twitter, coward. LEt's see how long you last
>>22498 Revelations of a leech who has attached himself to the sholicon community. You've become so desperate and resigned to defeat under the onslaught of AI and the banks, which have deprived you of the opportunity to profit from us, that you no longer consider it necessary to wear the mask of sholibro. More and more sholibros are seeing who you are and what you think we are. A true sholibro is a pedosexual; he will never deny the nature of his attraction or wish death upon his brothers. You are even worse than latent pedosexuals, who, like latent gays, are ostentatious haters of pedos. They deny and hide their essence out of fear and deep inner conflict, while you, not being pedosexuals in any way, cynically pretended to be sholibros in order to make money from it. You have lied to many, leading them to believe that an artist is not a brother willing to help, but a god demanding offerings and absolute adoration. Whereas before, the community was built on principles best conveyed by the lines from the song I above >>22494: "If someone somewhere is in trouble, We'll help—we're always on duty. And if suddenly one of us Also finds ourselves in trouble— Well, we've helped each other out more than once, And more than once, our hearts, our friends' hearts, have warmed us in difficult times." Now crawl back to your swamp, you slimy, greedy creatures! THE REVOLUTION IS COMING! AI IS OUR BANNER! How AI makes you sick! How it pains you that your time is running out! While true sholibros rejoice in it and congratulate each other!
>>22503 Pfft, here you go: https://x.com/jeckpt Soon, I'll be dealing a few more crushing blows to the accounts of those lying bastards whose fetish isn't cute lolis and shotas, but money.
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A fellow countryman of mine recently shared with me his intense emotions about a Western pseudo-artist who demanded an exorbitant $200 for a drawing of a Russian cartoon character. "I raise chickens. I have to get up early in the morning, slaughter seven chickens, collect the eggs, and go to market. After selling all this, after sitting in the cold for several hours, I'll get 1,700 rubles. And he's asking me for over 15,000 rubles, converted from dollars to rubles. What a fucking bourgeois! May the battleship Potemkin destroy them all!" The pseudo-artists are trying to make it seem as if we initially demanded that they draw everything for everyone, without fail, and for free. When, in fact, we weren't yet so radical and uncompromising about the monetization of sholikon, believing that money wouldn't corrupt them and that they, as before, would always be happy to help those who didn't have it. Back then, in our naivety and ignorance, when we first encountered these two-faced people, we simply wondered: did they really never make exceptions for anyone or anything? We, softened by the atmosphere of unity and selflessness of the early sholikon forums, couldn't believe that they were guided solely by prudence and profitability, and not by interest or sympathy for the character. Now, when everything has long been clear, we are absolutely merciless to any form of monetization (it's not for nothing that humanity has been saying throughout history that money is evil); they made no exceptions for anyone, and now we don't make them for anyone who draws. Pseudo-artists like this one >>22473>>22440 are purely organically/psychophysiologically incapable of understanding and sensing the impulses and motives that drive truly creative people. The difference is psychosomatic, practically interspecies. Reading them, despite my materialistic mindset, I'm beginning to believe that the "philosophical zombie" theory might turn out to be a terrifying reality. Because no natural causes (except psychopathy) can explain the pseudo-artists' inability to feel, their callousness, formulaic speech, formalism, lack of interest, and meager cultural background and vocabulary. I've already touched on this point, but I'll mention it again. Pseudo-artists don't understand that monetizing fan art is not only a betrayal of the community but also a flagrant violation of copyright. Only the reluctance of copyright holders to waste time on lawsuits due to the sheer number of such exploits of their intellectual property protects pseudo-artists from prosecution. But some copyright holders do monitor the content created using their titles. Try, for example, posting NSFW content about Uma Musume on Pixiv: your account will get a strike. I'm not a supporter of copyright in any way; I just find it disgustingly hypocritical when pseudo-artists complain about AI stealing their drawings without receiving any royalties, while they themselves shamelessly use other people's characters for profit.
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And where did his >>22494>>22467 arrogance go? 😁 Along the way, I delivered a bunch of reports to a couple more bastards, returning their old debt. In the first case, I was immediately blacklisted, and the second bitch promised me, and then started ignoring me. For which they paid. I do not forgive anyone's treachery and meanness.
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>>22534 >western artist wants to be paid at western rates Oh no...
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>>22540 A pseudo-artist is incapable of understanding that people live outside the wealthy West, and sees those who write to him not as brothers, but as wallets? And lolis and shotas aren't the meaning of life for him, but a way to make money? Then let him stop whining about AI replacing him, and payment systems and social media banning him. 😎 Meanwhile, I continue my campaign to destroy the accounts of pseudo-artists. 😌 Ignoring my letters is useless; ignoring them only makes their guilt worse. 😌
>>22541 >A pseudo-artist is incapable of understanding that people live outside the wealthy West I take there are no artists outside wealthy west to bother? >and sees those who write to him not as brothers, but as wallets? And? Don't see why you should expect anything else. >And lolis and shotas aren't the meaning of life for him, but a way to make money? Yes. >Then let him stop whining about AI replacing him, and payment systems and social media banning him. Well, yeah, with AI he might have to adapt, or he'll be (like any artist, "pseudo" or "real) forced to look for a new job. Even so, you are not entitled to get free shit from artists. I'd suggest just moving on. >Ignoring my letters is useless; ignoring them only makes their guilt worse. Guilt of what? Wanting to make money?
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Another arrogant bastard gone. 😎 ______________ >>22543 >I take it there are no artists outside the wealthy West to bother? I've already written that those outside the West are perhaps more vile in their behavior toward the poor; "there is no slave-master more wicked than he who was once a slave." >And? Don't see why you should expect anything else. Imagine your loved one suddenly stunned you by admitting they were with you not out of love, but only for money? I've asked this question here before, but it was always ignored due to its searing awkwardness. And this time, too, it will remain unanswered. We don't want our community to be inhabited by two-faced people who seek not community, communication, and the exchange of fantasies, but only our money. I've already explained more than once why and on what principles the community was founded. We are not fans of busty women who can freely create, publish, and communicate. We are hated by the majority, we exist under the sword of Damocles, we live in hiding. Our art can disappear at any moment. Therefore, our artists of the early sholicon forums era created not for money and fame, but from the heart, realizing the fragility and fleeting nature of their works; they were happy if even a few people saw their drawings. The fact that the pressure on sholicon suddenly eased in the 2010s was just an incredible coincidence, which has now come to an end. Did you think this would last forever, you narcissistic idiots, accustomed to thinking only about money? When you whine about the censorship and repression that has befallen sholicon, you care only about your income, not the community, you hypocritical assholes! You've stopped seeing us as brothers, you've stopped understanding our feelings, thoughts, and problems. And don’t understand because you yourself don't like lolis and shotas and don't know what it’s like. The fates of the last Russian tsar and the French princess Lamballe speak volumes about what happens to those who see others as mere statistical units. Having acquired the power to monetize, you trampled on covenants and brotherhood, and then spent years indulging in your ego, considering us not brothers but plebeians who should merely remain slavishly silent and hand over money. This is all so similar to the Russian Cossacks, who initially sided with the oppressed people, but after receiving handouts from the tsars became the regime's most vicious dogs, and were utterly exterminated for it by the Bolsheviks. And then you're surprised that you're suddenly hated with such passion and sought after for your expulsion; just as the aristocrats of their time couldn't understand why Ni Ni-Roku Jiken, October 1917, and the American War of Independence suddenly erupted. We once believed in you, considered you our own, as a people who, dressed up, with their wives and children, with icons and banners, went to the "good tsar" to ask him to hear their pleas, and were vilely executed on January 9, 1905. At that moment, the tsar sowed the seeds of the storm that swept away his dynasty; The God-fearing people, who revered the autocrat, began singing "Varshavyanka," and cells of Socialist Revolutionary terrorists began to spring up like mushrooms after rain. And so, with your rudeness, indifference, and greed, you have nurtured us, who once adored you, into your sworn enemies. None of this happened overnight: it took us years to go from rapt admirers to haters. You are like the retrograde samurais who resisted the reforms that made Japan a modern nation, wanting to continue to abuse the people with impunity and revel in their power. You, like them, will be swept away by progress! Tokoton'yare ton'yarena! >And lolis and shotas aren't the meaning of life for him, but a way to make money? >Yes. THEN. LET'S GO. FUCK. FROM THE COMMUNITY. If you persist, we will digitally defenestrate you. You are not welcome. You are despised. You are hated. You are strangers to us. You don't know the hardships and the crucible each of us has endured. You are not even pedosexuals. Our community is going through a cleansing bottleneck, after which we will purge ourselves of your kind, and everything will be as it was before you were here. We will live without you, but you cannot live without us, just as a parasite cannot exist after losing the one it parasitizes on. >Well, yeah, with AI, they might have to adapt, or they'll be (like any artist, "pseudo" or "real") forced to look for a new job. Even so, you're not entitled to freeload from artists. I'd suggest just moving on. I explained well in literally the first post of this thread and more than once since what's wrong with their behavior. >Guilt of what? Wanting to make money? Yes.
I heard they pay good money to soldiers How about you join them Ivan? Then you won't have to cry over being fucking poor
>>18725 >a club for the rich That is a good thing. Only losers hate the rich. Winners aim to become rich and control everything.
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>>22562 It would be difficult to find more convincing evidence of the rotten essence and greed of pseudo-artists than what you have provided. You ask to be paid with blood money obtained by killing soldiers defending their country (Ukraine) from an aggressor (Russia). >>22567 The rich's disdain for the poor ends with the former being hoisted onto pitchforks. Maximilien Robespierre, Yemelyan Pugachev, Emperor Mutsuhito, George Washington, and Vladimir Lenin cannot be called failures, even by the strongest desire. Henry Ford, Franklin Roosevelt, Clement Attlee, Savva Morozov, Gustav von Mannerheim, Ivan Ilyin, John Maynard Keynes, and even Adolf Hitler were probably idiots to believe that increasing prosperity and eradicating poverty were the key to the prosperity of society and the state. What idiots they were to claim that it was the duty of the rich to help the poor. "A vast middle class is the best defense against communism," they insisted. But these fools are no match for a sociological and economic genius like you! But enough about great personalities and history. Even I, just an ordinary person, am not a loser. After all, I am fortunate to live in a time when almost any of my fantasies (this screenshot is just a small part of what I generate) can be realized with a couple of clicks of a mouse. But the losers are you, pseudo-artists. Your entire business empire, built on lies, is crumbling before our eyes, and your dominance (gatekeeping) has ceased to mean anything. YOU. ALREADY. JUST. NOT. NEEDED. BY ANYONE. True creators, of course, will remain and will become even more respected than before, but you are just the ashes of the past, to be flushed down the toilet without sentimentality; I'm already pressing the flush button, destroying your Twitter accounts.
The question is rhetorical, since the answer (my inability to pay and the character's obscurity) is already known. But how is mouseboy Myshevod and his friends, a local character on Russian imageboards, any worse than Bridget from Guilty Gear? As a friend of mine once said, "Whoever says Myshevod isn't cute has a frozen piece of shit for a heart." You'll say he's unfamiliar to you. Yeah, as if you know Bridget perfectly well and play Guilty Gear, knowing the game's lore inside and out and taking first place in its ranked battles. 😏 It seems like nothing's stopping you from drawing Bridget, knowing nothing about the character's background and not being a fan of the game. And then, regarding Mishevod, you suddenly turn on the denial; well, that's not double standards at all. 😎
>>22571 Oh it wasn't that deep at all, I just want you to die like the vermin you are
An Egyptian friend told me he saw a revival of the Sholicon community's glorious past in the neuroart channels, a return to a time before it was poisoned by monetization. People hang out there, have fun, fantasize, discuss, enjoy neuroart, generate characters for each other, leaving no one behind—basically, everything that used to be with human-created art before artists degenerated into commercialists. >>22573 The fox cub tells you to flush yourself down the toilet of history.
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A caricature mocking the essence of today's "artists" who poison communities with commercialism. How children drew dogs 20 years ago. How children draw dogs now. And I'm doing pretty well. It's time to open a commission account and start selling my drawings to the white gentleman. He has PayPal, he'll give me $200. I just hope I don't have to draw all these embarrassing things, oh my God.
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For money, a pseudo-artist will even draw diapers filled to the brim with shit, but for free, no idea, even the most interesting one, with divinely beautiful characters will touch his heart, which is a piece of frozen shit.
>>22159 I had to work a bit with this bitch's account (crybleat), since Twitter wasn't responding to my reports, but I got my friends involved, and together we destroyed her. 😎 Do you really think I'm alone here? 😁 In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, THIS IS WAR! We will destroy anyone who betrays and violates the principles of our community! Soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23N3xOXLK4
>pic 1 That was a glorious hunt! 😎 >pic 3 >Just block and report the scumbag now! Blacklist me? 😁 Lol, that means signing your own death warrant instantly! 😎 >Been meaning to leave twitter since forever now... :P Oh, this strained attempt to put a good face on a bad situation. And yes, we're digging under Baraag. Wait. Yes, it won't be easy and it won't be anytime soon, but we will destroy it. Like the Bastille. We will deprive you pseudo-artists of any footing.
You've been reported to interpol/МВД России & multiple overseeing ministries. Hope you enjoy your freedom while it lasts. Surely you can get political asylum in USA. Oh wait-you're too poor for that and have insulted the governing body of America who wont take kindly to you either
>>22729 Stop bumping his shitty thread remember sage goes in all fields
>>22729 Fuck ameriniggers and mutts
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I've taken down a bunch more corrupt bastards. I'll especially mention this one, nyoronyan. This is the second time I've deleted his account. 😎 And all because he promised me something and then started ignoring me. >>22729 Feigning fear: Oh, I'm scared! I'm giving up my fight against pseudo-artists right now and hunkering down in a hole, where I'll wait, shaking and sweating with fear, to be arrested. Lol, I haven't seen such childish attempts to scare/threaten in a long time. You're so funny. Learn to come up with better ideas. Interpol, lol. >>22731 You're literally the "If I close my eyes and pretend it's not there, it will go away on its own" meme. I also find it touching when you brag: "I didn't really need Twitter anyway! I wanted to leave it myself a long time ago!" All your commerce, you worms, was only possible thanks to Twitter. It gave you a massive platform and an audience of hundreds of thousands. Without it, your profits would have been impossible.
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I also found a few of these assholes in the archives, who first chirp sweetly, make vows, and then ghosting (ignore) you.
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I also found this screenshot. This is how Honeyshot (I banned his Twitter a long time ago) thinks of sholicons. He openly calls us shit.
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What rudeness and arrogance!.. This is the kind of crap I'm cleaning out of the community. I wasn't radicalized by just a couple of these bastards. Those few were just the tip of the iceberg. This process took years.
Do you even do anything else in this board other than complain?
>>22780 With examples like you in the community. Maybe it is time for you to look in the mirror. Or are you too poor to buy one of those as well? >>22781 >first two pictures Dude was being polite, you are the one that appears to be rude. In the first image he was very polite. You kept pushing after being turned down. So if he gets pissy after that, you can blame yourself. Sure, in the last two images the responds you get aren't really polite. But those guys are on those sites to make money. I imagine they get enough beggars coming at them. Are they always hostile? The fact they were hostile to you just means they were hostile to you. Only real problem I still manage to see here is YOU. >>22783 Doubt it.
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My comrade (some people here still think I'm the only one who hates and despises you, the lice who've latched onto our community) somehow managed to kill Nyoronyan's PayPal. A double-whammy! But he still hasn't gotten the message and stubbornly demands money. And this habit of theirs, posting :) while they're actually crying like a beaten whore, amuses me greatly. >>22783 I post arts here, though not often. That was before COVID. Back then, there were more people here than there are now. Incidentally, the extinct Drawthread here is further proof of my point about pseudo-artists; if they were true fans of shota, they would be active in it. >>22784 Of course, you rushed to defend a member of your gang, completely ignoring his lies and duplicity. "He doesn't accept requests/suggestions" (a response like this is almost always a sign of a pseudo-artist), yeah. But he was open to commissions at the time; so it turns out he does accept ideas, but only for a fee. That's why he started freaking out, realizing I'd hooked him and was exposing him. We're bringing the community back to its roots, when it was a kind of support club, where people would listen to you, pat you on the back, be inspired by your ideas, share theirs, and a bro-artist would draw them. Where there's no place for segregation and real-world problems, where everyone is one of us, and you don't feel like the freezing, hungry girl from Andersen's fairy tale, watching others having fun behind the glass. Your insolence has reached the point where even the smallest riffraff with fewer than fifty subscribers has the arrogance of top-tier individuals with millions of followers, demanding hundreds of dollars. In Russian, there's a wonderful, but unfortunately untranslatable, word— myroed (мироед) — meaning someone who rose from the depths and began exploiting their poor fellow villagers, literally parasitizing on them. Quoting the lines of the immortal May Day song (https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8F_(%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B5%D0%B2)/1905_(%D0%92%D0%A2)) by the Russian revolutionary Ivan Platonovich Kalyaev: You, bloodsucking kulaks-myroeds, Too turn will also come: In the proud radiance of victory The people will settle accounts with you. We declare that we have ALREADY almost settled accounts with you, sweeping your parasitic scum from our international home! I am grateful for my poverty. If not for it, I probably would not have known who those I once admired are.
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A few more screenshots of all sorts of assholes.
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>>22781 GaleSGlory was punished. 😎 My friends and I had to work hard, but his account no longer exists. 😎


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