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>>21884 Virgin with rage.

>>18725 >Almost everyone is familiar with cases when a modest and kind artist, having acquired money and fame, turned into a greedy and arrogant one. OP, that's because they always were. Money and power doesn't "change" anyone, it just shows people true personality and mindset. And that's a big reason why a lot of wealthy individuals spend so much time teaching about personal development before even really advising you on how to increase your wealth. Because there's also the possibility that they're not being "greedy and arrogant", but just don't know better. You see it with a lot of people where they're struggling to make money, fall into something that allows them to make even more money, and then (Despite living large) repeat the entire process all over again except on a new level. And essentially sabotage their own success because they don't change their habits or lifestyle. >The transformation (more correctly, deformation) of many of them reached the point that they completely lost the habit of drawing for pleasure and inspiration, because it is free and will not bring in income. They may not paint for months if they don't have orders. Their motivation to draw has become unlearned to come from incentives other than financial ones. That's also true of a lot of people. Where they are genuinely talented, but you don't ever see them really using that talent except when they need another check. And to a certain extent, can you really blame them? Talent and happiness are not necessarily synonymous with each other. I could be someone who is talented and learned enough to make really beautiful marble sculptures, but I would honestly rather spend my time playing video games or just driving my car through the countryside. And there's nothing really wrong with that. >When you don't have money (and many of us are from poor countries, including me), artists don't even look at you To be fair, artists also have bills to pay, too. >They declare with cynical frankness that they hate what they draw and those they draw to, but they tolerate it because of the big money Yes and? I despise doing janitorial work, but I'll gladly do it if the pay is high enough. In fact, the Irish and the Scots became so prominent in American culture entirely because they did the jobs no one wanted to do, like being a fireman or a police officer. >They start screaming about “capitalism and evil corporations depriving them of income,” although they themselves, like Scrooge, recently humiliated the poor man who was naive to turn to them. I'll agree with you there, the artists that bitch about AI can get fucked. Because at the end of the day, AI is just a tool and nothing more. A very powerful tool, but still just a tool. The people that complain about how it will "displace" creators really have no frame of reference about the world and the various advancements that have taken place. Programs like Vocaloid didn't displace music artists and singers. The camera didn't displace the painter. And further, AI will not replace people no matter how much the elites desire it to do so. >If this continues, we will turn into a disgrace like the furry-community, which has long been said to have become a club for the rich. The reason people hate the furfags is because the furfags turn being a "furry" into their entire existence. The fact that they're often rich is an entirely different issue. While somewhat "related", the entire reason that they spend millions of dollars on such content and a community is that they want to keep the kind of furfag content that they enjoy always available. And it's not just prominent with furfags. You see this with more degenerate and niche fetishes, and why boards like >>>/vore1/, >>>/abdl/, and >>>/tkr/ are so high up. Remember that >>>/interracial/ and >>>/2dblacked/ entirely exists as one autistic cuckold's personal home. Hell, NTR is only as prominent as it is because you have a lot of people paying for that content to be available. Meanwhile generic erotic content that you'd find over on >>>/h/, and even >>>/futa/ funnily enough, is much more common, and therefore in less demand, and why you won't see people as often commissioning such material.

>>21884 I'm bisexual faggot

>>21900 replying to yourself? A bold stradegy from a huge retard.

>>21884 >OP is a deranged slav Yeah that checks out. Enjoy the war.

>>21933 Don't suck on crazy.

>>21933 My favorite bit is that he doesn't understand how someone could possibly be bisexual. Hope Putin finds out he's gay, straight into the Dnipro

God Lord, I just read the entire thread because I was genuinely curious as it touches some topics I'm interested. OP with all respect, I'm worried about your mental health, all this hate and spite you have developed is just not good on the long run. First off, I read part of your ATF thread and in page two you said: "But I was not prepared for the fact that out of 50 people, none (!) would respond with interest. I was completely demoralized." Such number probably increased by the time I'm writing, but I don't think I need to remind you this is arguably one of the least effective ways to pitch your ideas as many would consider it unsolicited spam in DMs. Probably the screenshot that left me the most perplexed was your interaction with the Japanese artist Yuki2, they expressed concerns about copyright, mentioned Skeb for speeding up the process, no motivation for Nanachi R18 and how difficult it was to draw Evan. Despite all of that you managed to get a sketch, but you still got angry and called it crude??? Second, I partly agree with your sentiment towards mainstream fanart. There are certain fan artworks that simply don't feel genuine and even more so if the artist in question is known to be constantly chasing the flavor of the month. I'd say my least favorite kind of artist is the one that does trendy crossovers on a regular basis due to how pandering it can look, I have no clue if the main intention behind said crossovers was money, clout or legitimate liking, whatever it is I don't care, mute the artist and move on with my day. This bring us to the question, are mainstream fan artists ruining the so called "community"? I don't know, for me such term has lost meaning in today's age. The internet now is simply too big and you have terminally online individuals that it often ends up creating cult-like behavior in almost every corner of the internet. You also have to keep in mind things change, people come and go be it for the best or for the worst. Personally I simply do my own thing. OP, focus on yourself and your ideas, express the love you have for Evan and the niche gang with drawing, 3D, rig animations, generative AI you name it just don't get bitter.

>>21900 It is true that money does not change people, it simply reveals their true essence. But the removal of masks sometimes happens so unexpectedly that it is very difficult to be ready for it. It is difficult to get used to the new realities, where yesterday's sympathetic merry fellow now looks down on you. Having talent does not mean that a person will develop his gift and devote himself entirely to it. It is not for nothing that there is a saying "He buried his talent in the ground." That is why art critics and I are against calling just anyone an artist. An artist is a combination of many qualities. It is a calling, a way of life. And now this status has begun to be handed out to everyone who has simply picked up a pencil, thereby devaluing the sacredness of this concept. The artist's title has been devalued so much that people now react to any post with problems of "artists" with mocking comments, not sparing the poison: https://pikabu.ru/story/kak_v_29_let_poteryat_sebya_a_potom_vnov_nayti_v_iskusstve_12786449?cid=354218039 People have stopped seeing creators in those who draw, suspecting them of self-interest. People have seen the light. No neural networks would have caused such damage as "artists" provoked with their behavior. You missed one important point. Those we are talking about have not liked lolis and shotas for a long time, if they ever liked them at all. Their behavior and reactions reveal them to be people who are completely indifferent to cute girls and boys and real lolis/shotalovers. That's why drawing is hard for them, they simply have nothing to express, their hearts are empty. I remember how true bro react to an attempt at dialogue - cordially and responsively, with a vivid interest in characters new to them, expressing a desire to get to know them and learn more about them. Whereas pseudo-artists don't even half-say a word about/evaluate the characters you tell them about, because for them it's not love. There was an example above in the thread - Honeyshot, avoiding answering the question of whether he is a pedosexual. Previously, artists flatly refused any donations, considering it blasphemous to take money from their brothers. Offering an artist money meant insulting him and his love for lolis and shotas. Today's pseudo-artists are raging, trying to suppress those who remember the old days, trying to portray us as a bunch of freeloaders, impudent people and communists. >>21933 What country/region are you from? Russia is shit, of course, but other countries are rapidly sinking to its level; the trend of degradation of living standards and people's character is marching all over the world. The America and Europe that I enthusiastically watched in the movies as a child are long gone. And Japan has recently joined the list of my disappointments. >>21929 >>21941 If you were truly bi, you wouldn't accuse me of supposedly being heterosexual. >>21930 In your insults you are already sinking lower than a clown, moving on to the most primitive insinuations, accusing me of such a low technique as claque (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%91%D1%80). >>21946 My hatred and anger are not a problem for me. This is a problem for pseudo-artists: they feel the consequences of their duplicity and greed, which are brought to them by the hatred of those whose trust they betrayed. Moreover, my anger has long passed the boiling phase, now it is cold contempt. When you hate furiously, it means that some feelings still remain, some attempt to get through, but when icy disgust comes, this is the final point, where the object of anger is dehumanized without a trace, to the level of dust. >Probably the screenshot that left me the most perplexed was your interaction with the Japanese artist Yuki2, they expressed concerns about copyright, mentioned Skeb for speeding up the process, no motivation for Nanachi R18 and how difficult it was to draw Evan. >Despite all of that you managed to get a sketch, but you still got angry and called it crude??? Yeah, she's a bitch and a scumbag. It feels like you were very biased at this point. Because it's impossible not to see how sweetly she cooed at me at first, promising to draw Evan in the coming weeks. And when I wrote after three months of waiting, it was as if she had been replaced, her answer was sharp and displeased. She demanded money from me, betraying her promise. And then she began to shamelessly and absurdly lie about copyright, taking me for a complete idiot who does not know the legal subtleties and realities of Japan regarding fan art. By the way, by now I have become very disappointed in Japan. Behind the loud words about honor lies an empty shell and discouraging stupidity. The Japanese are actually very narrow-minded people. Their cultural horizons are amazingly narrow. The best time of this country is long gone. The Japanese were simply very lucky with Emperor Mutsuhito. Otherwise, this would have been another shithole on the level of Cambodia. I am glad to hear that you share my words about the mainstream having dealt a huge blow to the community. Even the attacks from pedo-haters were not as destructive as the pursuit of the mainstream. Thousands of characters were left behind, diversity was devastatingly thinned. I will correct you, I am not writing about only Evan and I love not only him. Pseudo-artists rejected dozens (!) of characters. For example, they met Alice from the cult Soviet cartoon "The Mystery of the Third Planet" with such coldness and hostility, as if it were about necrophilia with a dead homeless woman. Heidi from Heidi's Song, Ellie from The Wizard of Oz - all were rejected. After all, these are not the mainstream Luz, Kanna Kamui and Hilda, who signify profit.

Another shining example of a pseudo-artist. A real standard. He radiates such arrogance and greed that it is comparable to a stream of gamma particles. I always expose pseudo-artists, but now I have a question for those who order from them. Do you not respect yourself at all when you turn to people like him? >>21946 Oh, and I forgot about her "sketch" with Evan. Look at how offensively carelessly it is drawn. Like a pathetic handout, arrogantly thrown to a beggar by a rich person to humiliate him. And how it is covered in an anti-AI filter. As if I would use these deliberately lazy scribbles to train AI. >>21929 >>21941 And it was you who did not realize that I was bi when you accused me of being straight.

Genuine question OP Why are you still alive? Why do keep forcing yourself to live on this shit world? Why not just end it all?

>>21976 Um, why? Now is the best time of my life. AI embodies almost all my fantasies, and the monopoly of pseudo-artists is collapsing under the mighty blows of neural networks, banks and haters, whom they have raised with their disdain for the target audience. I savor their sobs, watching how history is made before my eyes, and the community is freed from parasites. Literally like this song, where the guillotine can be replaced by AI, and nobles - by artists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqRaYBJtoho

>>18754 >Not only are you greedy, you're also a racist. And proud.

>>21974 >If you were truly bi, you wouldn't accuse me of supposedly being heterosexual. How the fuck does that make any sense you entitled whiny little bitch baby?

>>21977 Then why don't you take your retard ass over to grok and ask it to make your shitty art instead of whining about people who are trying to make a living selling their art at the value it's clearly worth? I think you're just pissy because you're a poor piece of shit honestly.

>>22030 OP has the typical lefty mentality, it's best to just ignore him, cause they have their heads so far up their own asses that it's impossible for them to understand their hypocrisy

>>22034 Dude, I'm a huge leftist. He's not a lefty, he's just a retard. Like a fucking moron. He knows as much about socioeconomics as an ant knows about trigonometry. He's been taught some sanitized version of communism that somehow jumps from "Capitalist Dystopia" to "Fuck you everything is free now"

>>21996 I suggest all apologists of the superiority of the white race go to Russia and see the "best of people" up close. All this stupid nonsense about "white greatness" will immediately disappear. However, there is no need to go to Russia, there is plenty of white trash in the USA too. If I write to someone, asking for help as a "white brother", I will be declared crazy. Blue-eyed blond Evan is rejected. So there is no such thing as "white solidarity". >>22030 Because I don't want such people in our community to BE! I don't want to play "guessing game" (who is in front of me: a sincere pedobear or a huckster), when I write to those who publish their drawings with loli and shota. I don't want to run into assholes who only pretend to be pedobears! I don't want my sincere heartfelt desire to find those who love the characters that I like, as well as the desire to introduce people to cute heroes unknown to them, to be called begging and imposition, thereby spitting in my heart! I don't want this mercantile mold to destroy and distort fandoms, turning selfless fan communication into commodity-money! I don't want hundreds of characters to be deprived of attention! I want it to be like before, like in the early 2010s, when it was unthinkable for a sholicon artist to charge his brothers; they knew from their own experience what a rare happiness it was to find their own, like themselves, who loved loli and shota; they knew that most of us were not oligarchs. The community was very small, but very active and welcoming. Every newcomer was a dear guest, everyone was appreciated and remembered. Any like, comment, letter or request was met with delight and gratitude. Now everyone is spoiled by the availability of content and platforms (Twitter was then in its infancy, and only the Japanese knew about Pixiv and sat on it) and do not know this feeling of joyful trepidation and goosebumps, when you suddenly find brothers; when a thousand people on the forum was considered an incredible number. I remember the now defunct Shotachan in its early years and that unique atmosphere of unity and accessibility. And I want it all back! For you, sholicon is measured only in money! You shamelessly parasitize on what is dear to us! You are a tumor on the body of our community. But, glory to progress, the tumor did not have time to destroy us completely, because a panacea appeared - AI. You are just dying metastases. Imagine that your parents brought you into the world not out of love and the desire to have a child, but in order to make you a slave-prostitute and make money on you. Is the analogy clear? If you do not understand, then I will convey to you as if you were stupid: THERE ARE THINGS ON WHICH IT IS BLASPHEUS AND EVEN CRIMINAL TO MAKE MONEY! Now the profiteers have become so brazen that even in this practically dead thread https://8chan.moe/sm/res/864.html of free requests for shota-drawings, they brazenly came to PR themselves, but not to draw. CasyTay is the nickname of one of these bastards. Spit in her face if you meet her. >>22035 >>22034 I have said more than once that I am not a communist, but a centrist. You don't have to be a Bolshevik to hate and despise the mercantile, for whom everyone else is not people, but wallets. Luigi Mangione and the Russian Decembrists, who loathed the rich, came from noble families and were not communists. Franklin Roosevelt and Adolf Hitler, who demanded in an ultimatum that the magnates share their super-profits with the people, were not leftists either. The ardent anti-communist and fascist Ivan Ilyin wrote: "An owner who lacks a sense of responsibility and a sense of supra-class solidarity, who disposes of his property to the detriment of others and acts antisocially, must be convinced that his way of acting is reprehensible, that his property enjoys less protection, that such management turns out to be economically, legally and morally disadvantageous for him, so that he himself would want to take a different path, etc."

All this blahblahblah to say that you don't want to work, and just receive wellfare money You're parasite, end your life

>>22115 You.

>>22110 >I have said more than once that I am not a communist, but a centrist. Yeah, like we said, you're a fucking retard

Pseudo-artists have devalued the concept of art and deprived it of its sacredness so much that now the word "artist" makes people grimace with hostility. Any post where a person declares that he draws is met not with admiration or interest, but with skepticism and ridicule. Because drawing is now firmly associated not with creativity, but with commerce. This is how "artists" are "warmly welcomed" on the Russian analogue of Reddit: https://pikabu.ru/story/kak_v_29_let_poteryat_sebya_a_potom_vnov_nayti_v_iskusstve_12786449 And this despite the fact that she did not openly advertise her commercial orientation. Those who directly postulate their mercantilism are cruelly bullied by the people: https://2ch.su/o/res/80618.html Earlier, when you revealed a new character to someone, you were thanked. Now they react as if you came not with a cute loli, but dragged a dead rat. It was impossible to imagine in the old days that you, telling about a character, would be looked at with hostility. Another red marker of a pseudo-artist. "I don't know this character" in response to your story. Not "He/she didn't catch my attention, didn't seem interesting", but "I don't know". Which clearly reads as "Why did you bring me a loli/shota, I'm not uninterested in this! Bring me money!" How do people even get to know characters? You accidentally saw a picture and liked the unfamiliar character depicted in it and you start searching for information about him. Because we all love with our eyes first and foremost, and only then begin to learn about the biography. A true sholicon would evaluate a character from the point of view of visual triggers and only then would he say whether it made his heart beat faster or did not shake him at all, not finding in him a desire to get to know him. The Huckster does not evaluate in any way, he does not linger on the picture for more than a second, because the only thing he is interested in is money, and therefore he lies so artlessly and monosyllabically, completely giving away his essence. On 4chan, I often see posts like "Why are artists so stupid and draw the same thing and follow not ideas and discoveries, but trends and hype!" And indeed, you are amazed at how limited pseudo-artists are in their mass, how narrow their cultural baggage is. Let's take, for example, a character like Marisa Kirisame. What do they draw with her? How she flies on a broom, drinks tea with Reimu, or just stands or sits. And there are tens of thousands of such similar drawings. They don’t even try to create something special, their brains are frozen like jelly, they copy the same pattern, without trying to show even a little originality. When you write to them, they get angry not only because you can’t pay them, but also because your creativity and imagination are like a blow to their pride, sharply reminding them how bad they are with ideas. Why do you think there is such a position as an art director? Because most (pseudo)artists can only draw, but not invent and think through. And the job of an art director is to give them ideas and direct them. >>21974 Also, if anyone hasn’t seen it, this cunt, among other things, also lied that she needed money to treat sick animals. As if I don't remember her previous accounts (@sameppp, now banned), where she posted photos of her rich life. She is one of those morbidly greedy people, like this Polish millionaire and his wife, who stole a cap with an autograph from a boy at the US Open: https://mel.fm/vospitaniye/sovety/8261950-privet-eto-mama-srochno-nuzhna-tvoya-pomoshch-kak-zashchitit-rebenka-ot-obmana-v-seti?infNews=true. I wish her a personal Hiroshima. In conclusion, a fresh screenshot from a furry artist channel, where they admit that they have long lost the ability to feel, and now their only incentive is money. The audience is also largely to blame for the fact that artists have become impudent. They have been overfed with adoration and honor, out of naivety, of course, from the belief in the community of thoughts. It is not for nothing that biblical wisdom says "Do not make yourself an idol!" People have forgotten that a creator without an audience is nothing and no one. That without those who can appreciate his work, his work loses its meaning. People were embarrassed to remind them that without them he is simply no one. Now is the time to destroy the ivory towers and force the arrogant little gods to come down to earth. Either they will remember where, where and with whom they started, or artificial intelligence will crush them along with censorship.

This short and emotional video will say it best for me, about how blind worship of authorities is humiliation of oneself, denial of one's right to a voice and opinion. FUCK AUTHORITIES!

>>22140 God you're the most verbose retard I've ever seen. Jesus fucking christ, go write your manifesto and get shot while doing your retard mass shooting.

>>22142 Pfft, it would be strange to expect any other comment from a pseudo-artist. You and your gang have a brain the size of a grain of barley. Therefore, a text longer than a couple of words causes a BSOD in your nanobrain.

All talk and still no muh BSC.

>>22143 Nah you're just a retard that thinks that writing a bunch of words makes somehow intelligent and sophisticated, while your entire point is quite simple and moronic You put to shame any crooked politician in that regards, you should work in the Putin regime I bet they'll love to have someone like you

My friends told me that one of those whores I wrote to was offended (if she hadn't been furious that I had torn off her mask, revealing her huckster nature, she wouldn't have created this post) by my reproach: https://baraag.net/@crybleat/114796357381506100 I remember her. She silently blocked me when I wrote to her on Pixiv. A typical huckster creature who came to the community only for money, like CasyTay. But this is not the only thing that is noteworthy. In the comments under the post, I saw Xienoan. He is Russian. He started his journey with the 2ch imageboard. There is even a thread of his drawings from 2017 preserved there. A striking example of how money spoils a person. From a modest and sociable guy, he mutated into a greedy businessman and hides in every possible way that he is from Russia. I remembered another such asshole, even if he did not mark himself under that post. RedKeji. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/5491233 He is also from the Russian Federation, which is evidenced (I am publishing screenshots). I have heard many complaints about him from Russian shota brothers. He always ignores letters, and his price tag is exorbitant even for the rich West. I am watching him and am ready to destroy his accounts at the first opportunity. I also noticed Negi-Bozu there. Where he is from, I do not know. But I remember that I wrote to him and he also responded with silence. Another one for whom shota is a soulless conveyor belt. Many here think that I only threaten with words and there is no action behind them. While I have destroyed many accounts of those who are among us only for the sake of earning money. Earlier in the thread I told and showed who I destroyed, and this is only a small part. >>22150 Putin is a cannibal, but the West is no better. Once upon a time I believed that the West was home to white-toothed smiling rich people who were ready to respond to a request for help. And then I saw that it was all a lie. The grotesque Soviet caricatures that people used to make fun of, including me, have become the merciless truth.

What a pathetic liar and plagiarist this Jap is. He was caught red-handed, and he denies it. Even kindergarteners lie more convincingly.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I couldn't even dream of better proof of my thesis that most loli-shota artists are businessmen, not brothers! As soon as he lost the way to make money from us, all his love for loli and shota disappeared like the wind! I even found a screenshot in my archives where this despicable asshole declares that he draws only for money.

>>22160 >>22161 >actually harassing Nip artists with your schizophrenia

>I'm so fucking autistic nobody wants to give me a job wah wah wah Holy shit you're fucking pathetic, if not an outright liar

When I was digging around looking for a screenshot of Graves' duplicity, I found a few more illustrative examples of treachery on the part of pseudo-artists. >>22164 I am a precariat. Sometimes I have a job. And this money is barely enough for the bare necessities, although even so I managed to assemble a computer that allows me to use AI, because even so it is several times cheaper than the price lists of pseudo-artists. You, rich Western bastards, cannot understand what it means to live in non-Western Europe, Japan or the USA. What for you is a one-time trip to a cafe, for a resident of Russia the opportunity to live for a couple of months. >>22161 You simply have nothing to argue with, so you break down into insults, unable to master what I have written, not to mention how you are twisted by the truth that I have made public. I do not suck my words out of my finger, I disclose all my theses in detail, always attach proof and links. Then you, like a hysterical monkey, fart with your mouth and throw excrement, trying to drown out the words and facts that are inconvenient for you. You can howl and rage as much as you like, but everything happens exactly as I said. Graves' passing is a clear example of this. If he were a true lolisho, he would have painted until his death, but as soon as the flow of money dried up, he went crazy and tore off his mask, revealing his huckster face.