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Anonymous 10/14/2021 (Thu) 06:36:38 No. 18447
So /co/ which is it? A Halloween movie or a Christmas movie? The entire plot deals with Jack discovering, essentially taking over Christmas and then saving it as Halloween already ended. And will the mouse raise this franchise from the grave and milk the pus dry, like they're doing to Hocus Pocus?
technically it's both
>>18447 It's a Halloween movie, cuckchanner.
>>18456 But the entire plot devolves in the end with rescuing Santa.
>>18462 Yes. In Halloween Town with the pumpkin king of halloween rescuing him from Oogie Boogie.
Could they by chance? Reminder there's a console game that's DMC-lite, not too awful but nothing amazing I still need to finish it but I haven't, though they really needed to add more music to the fucking game and it continued the story of the movie just fine. Essentially they would just be copying the games plot.
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>>18447 >So /co/ which is it? A Halloween movie or a Christmas movie? It's a NOVEMBER movie for when you're between seasons and are bored as fuck, dink.
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>>18463 >the pumpkin king of halloween rescuing him from Oogie Boogie.
>>18447 >So /co/ which is it? A Halloween movie or a Christmas movie? It's a Christmas movie but I prefer to watch it around Halloween.
>>18836 That's his title!
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>>18846 >That's his title! Boogie is an outdated term for negroes, anon.
>>19671 Shut up, nigger. Oogie Boogie is his name.
Both.
>>19671 >Boogie is an outdated term for negroes Well considering that Oogie Boogie 1. Runs illegal gambling out of his juke joint shack 2. Plays Jazz music all the time 3. Partakes in crimes like kidnapping, enlisting some youths to aid in his criminal endeavors. It makes sense.
>>18447 Id say its both, but I tend watch it on christmas since there are tons of good horror movies to watch on Halloween, and barely any half-decent Christmas movies.
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>>18447 >A Halloween movie or a Christmas movie? It's a November movie to get you through one of the bleakest fucking months of the year.
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>>18447 Technically it's both, I always watched it around halloween since it combos well with other light halloweeny movies like Hocus Pocus. I have seen people make the argument it's a Christmas movie though. Best compromise is what other anons have suggested and watching it in November. Sally is still best Disney girl
>>18447 Watch it as the last Halloween movie of the year, as a transition. I always thought this was obvious.
>>18447 (OP) >And will the mouse raise this franchise from the grave Sequels have been made in the form of a couple video games in 2005, one for the PS2 and the other for the GBA, and a book recently released in August. The video games were developed by Japanese companies, Tose and Capcom, and the book is a YA novel that I hadn't even heard of until a few weeks ago. The book and video games did not have any major involvement from Burton or the original production crew. Not sure about the book since it was so recently released, but the video games received negative to average reviews at the time. As for a film sequel, the biggest obstacle is simply that the original was stop motion. Disney actually considered a CGI sequel back in 2001 but Tim Burton talked them out of it. A major part of the original's charm and popularity was both the stop motion and Tim Burton's influence. In other words for it to be financially successful it would require both Tim Burton on board and also be stop motion as the original. Quality stop motion is time consuming and expensive compared with CGI and 2D animation today which is why it's rarely done by major studios anymore. There are a few studios now that work primarily in stop motion, such as Laika and Aardman, and even they use some CGI in their films. Yeah, there's other studios that have produced stop motion films in the past couple decades, but it's not their main focus and it's common to use CGI with stop motion to cut down on labor. Most stop motion works now are shorter in length and lower quality compared with their mainly 2D and CGI counterparts simply because of time, labor, and money It seems unlikely Tim Burton would be willing to work on a sequel to Nightmare Before Christmas unless it was stop motion as the original was. Even if Disney agreed to make it stop motion Tim Burton would still probably be reluctant considering the first movie had various production and development problems. Disney didn't even want to release it under their main studio originally and only acknowledged it as part of the Disney brand after it became majorly successful. It was originally under Touchstone which was for Disney productions considered more adult oriented and not fitting with Disney's family image. Disney would likely have to give Burton more creative control than he had on the original film which has some issues with modern Disney. There's also they would probably need Danny Elfman onboard which would likely be easier, but he rarely does personal singing or voice work anymore. He hasn't done singing in a new film since Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Corpse Bride in 2005. Apart from that the only major thing he's done with his own vocals that wasn't narrator or documentary work has been some primarily orchestral concerts for Nightmare Before Christmas's soundtrack and a single album, Big Mess, in 2021. The reason Danny Elfman has done very little work that isn't orchestral or sound track based since his Oingo Boingo days is because he stated he had developed hearing damage from live work. So, there might be some problems in getting Elfman to voice Jack because they would likely have to pay him significantly for any voice work due to the above reasons and that Jack is a very iconic character now. Yes, Disney could make a film without Burton, Elfman, and stop motion, but any execs involved know this would likely be a commercial failure.
>>28858 The games are both decent. The GBA one is a prequel that is kind of like the GBA Castlevanias, and the PS2 one is kind of like Devil May Cry. Neither is as good as the games they copy, but they're both fine. The PS2 one does have cool music that tries to be like the movie. Again, not as good as the movie, but pretty good.
>>28862 The PS2's problem is they repeat the This is Halloween song for the overworld motif & there's just constant noise from Jack saying "SOUL ROBBER". It gets very annoying fast. The original songs for the boss fights are pretty basic but at least they tried to do something original there.
>>28858 Kingdom Hearts franchise also has some Halloween Town scenes.
>>28882 Where they also repeat "This is Halloween" instrumental for the overworld whenever you're not fighting heartless. I don't know if it's just for the Halloweentown segments though, since I vaguely remember it switching to "What's this?" when you go to Christmastown


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