>>119120
>but the Euros unintentionally brought a disease with them to the natives and in return, the Europeans got infected with a disease that came from the natives.
While this is true, the only classes I ever took only mentioned this if they were trying to push the false "smallpox blankets" thing, and they never mentioned that the Americans had diseases the Europeans were more susceptible to, even though it's obvious logic. They try to imply, maybe because they unconsciously believe, that pre-colombian america was free of disease, like some sort of Eden.
>Since some anons are talking about comics, are there any good comics that are even worth to read that has very little to do with capeshit?
My specialty is capeshit, but I really like Jonah Hex, which is a western series. Has a few hundred issues over time (first introduced in 1970 and has had several series since), but most of the stories are standalone, so you can pick up any issue and understand it. It is technically in the DC Universe, but he lives in the late 19th century, so he doesn't interact with superheroes very often (though there are occasional time travel stories, but they're usually in the other characters series and have them go back to meet Hex, rather than suddenly having an issue of Jonah Hex that isn't a regular western). He does interact with other DC characters, but they're old western characters from when westerns were still popular, and it's not like they expect you to have read old 1950s issues of Scalphunter to understand who he is. But Scalphunter is cool so it is cool when he shows up. He'll probably never show up again now because the premise is that he's literally an indian named Scalphunter, but I recall him appearing as late as the 2010s.
Also there is one western guy named Nighthawk who is technically Hawkman in a previous life and sometimes shows up, but you don't need to know that, you just need to know he's a cowboy.
Also there was one series called HEX from the late '80s where for some reason they thought it would be a good idea to have Hex go to the post-apocalyptic future
of the mid-21st century and do Mad Max shit. But you can just not read that one if you don't want to. Again, most of this stories are standalone.
Though it is cool every once in a while when he casually mentions those events, and you're like "oh yeah, I can't believe that retarded shit is technically still canon." Hex is basically the only character in the DCU where basically everything he's ever been in is still canon to him.
Oh yeah I forgot there was a Jonah Hex movie, but it had Megan Fox and I assume it's awful. Also he was in that show Legends of Tomorrow, but that show is SJW as fuck, so they couldn't even have him wear his classic outfit, because his classic outfit is his uniform from when he served in the Confederate Army.
But ignore all my autism.
>tl;dr: Jonah Hex is a cool as fuck cowboy that has hundreds of issues of cool and gritty standalone western stories. One of the most successful non-capeshit series, especially at DC or Marvel, and that's for a good reason.
Also, just read Watchmen. It's sort of capeshit, but not really, it's a commentary on capeshit, among many other things. And it ruined the entire genre because it was so good that afterwards every bad writer was trying to copy it. But it is still worthy of its high reputation. It is a "deconstuction," but while that term has earned a bad reputation over time, Watchmen is actually very nuanced, and doesn't reflect what modern "deconstructions" would make you think of.
People on this site might also be interested in Enemy Ace. He's another DC character but again not a superhero, and he only very rarely interacts with superheroes (and you don't need to pay attention to those stories if you don't want to). Basically he's The Red Baron. An honorable enemy pilot, very frequently seen from the perspectives of narrators on the American side of WWI (because it's an American series), but then that's what can make it interesting to see an enemy protagonist. Not the most original, but there are good stories with him. Though many of them are much older, and some people have a problem with the styles of older comics compared to newer ones. But there is a more modern one ('90s IIRC) that I think is really underrated, called Enemy Ace: War Idyll, which is a graphic novel deliberately aimed at a more adult audience, where some guy is interviewing an elderly version of him, because he is one of the last World War I veterans from either side. Someone interested in grounded and nuanced war comics, and one that actually humanizes both sides, would probably like this.
I also personally like The War That Time Forgot, which is a series of stories about different World War II soldiers who keep ending up on Dinosaur Island, which is exactly what it sounds like. It's got 1950s cheese to it, but it's crazy enough to entertain me. I'm not gonna say it's really an all time great, but it keeps getting referenced in the DCU all these years later because it's a lot of fun.
Another good non-capeshit one is Kamandi. Jack Kirby is the greatest comics creator ever (created Captain America, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Thor, X-Men, and probably more than half of the characters you've ever heard of), and DC poached him away from Marvel by telling him he could make whatever he wanted, but then they changed their minds and cancelled his magnum opus without an ending, and told him to make a ripoff of Planet of the Apes instead. But he's a great artist and it was a great series. But yeah basically it's planet of the apes but instead of just apes it's a bunch of superintelligent animals, and Kamandi is basically the last human. Again, you have to like that old school style though. It's from the '70s, but Kirby was an older guy and using older styles, though experimenting with them a lot.
>>119124
I've only read the first three volumes of Bone, but I must second this. It was great. To hear it gets better makes me want to read more.
>>119132
IIRC, it doesn't work if the target truly feels no remorse.