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USA/China Trade Wars Anonymous 04/16/2025 (Wed) 15:11:39 Id: d1ac08 No. 23518
Post anything related to to 2025 USA/China Trade War News, market trends, etc
>>41002 >destroying almost all domestic manufacturing What "domestic manufacturing"? >the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd They've BEEN doing that since 1971 >>41004 Nice double post
>>41014 >What "domestic manufacturing"? https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=1W_mSOS1Qts >>the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd >They've BEEN doing that since 1971 you really need to figure out what the hell you're talking about because currently you don't >Nice double post nice double chairs
>>41019 i don't know what useless garbage it just tried to do to that youtube link but the title of the video is >The Death of Affordable Computing | Tariffs Impact & Investigation
>>41021 >The Death of Affordable Computing So that means game companies will have to supporting Windows 7 and the PS3 again as no one is going to buy an overpriced POS spyware device just to run their bloated software that craters system performance for it's AI-generated fake-frame rates and ray-tracing that STILL doesn't work properly. I don't see this being a bad thing. Also... >Computing Here's seven year old list (As in, doesn't account for "recent" events like Intel having abandoned manufacturing in the U.S. several years ago) of EVERYTHING computer related made in the U.S. : archive.is/Ks7NH So again, I ask, WHAT domestic manufacturing? Nothing is made in the U.S. We import everything. The only thing we "export" is just ideas.
>>40971 >I can ad Joe Smith was fired because some IA specialize in services skynet was bough by the HQ ultra patriotic corporation, those bonuses of CEO's laying off people are hot, investor are the "numba" one priority, well at least stock went up, some New Yorker HFT will be happy, those billions expended by the government at work
>>37444 > >>>37158 https://archive.today/https://economictimes.indiatimes(Please use archive.today)/news/defence/chinas-new-weapon-shocks-the-world-is-this-hydrogen-bomb-a-game-changer-for-modern-warfare/articleshow/120475868.cms?from=mdr Its mangnesium hydrate, its far too difficult to manufacture to be wasted on making bombs. Its likely going to be used as fuel in solid fuel cells for high end weight sensitive applications like drones and rockets. And when used in a bomb, its not a nuclear detonation, it is used as very expensive fuel in a thermobaric explosion.
>>23437 >>23464 China's fleet is 40% Boeing though, this could get ugly
>>40962 Of course it wasn't broken. But the whole point of Trump's platform is bold-facedly lying about it so that you genuinely think and are outraged like it is your problem. Just like he lied about being a Dictator only on day 1 lol. Now that any American's house can be unlawfully "Trumpvestigated" by ICE contrary to the 4th maybe everyone should start looking into exercising their 2nd.
>>40935 I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age.
>>41250 worst, with a very capable manufacturing rival like China is a dangerous gamble, even before money concept phoenicians were trading, the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff, phoenicians and XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs, phoenicians had to deal like Persian empire, and later on Roman Empire, China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars, China is moving towards a "updated" army and manufacturing power, Trumptards instead cold down the economy (Fed Funds high Interest Rates) buy less chinese goyslop, want lower the interest rate, expend like crazy and blame any one instead taking the accountability of their own public and private institutions fails, we saw it in 2000's, 2008 who the printing machine "solve" the problem and the rest of the world eat the toxic USD money clipping, and where we go again, shit... this time with a even bigger China, new parallel currencies (crypto, an money swaps avoiding USD as a exchange currencie)
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>>41250 >I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? >Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? >>41261 >a very capable manufacturing rival like China West Taiwan produces more shit than they're capable of selling, their entire economy is on the brink of collapse, their own citizens are LITERALLY lying flat with the expressed desire of becoming a vegetable, and their entire history is one incident after another of them ALWAYS losing every single war they have ever participated in. >the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. >XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs Wasn't it it the Qianlong Emperor that said, and I quote: <Our Celestial Empire possesses all things in prolific abundance and lacks no product within its borders. There is therefore no need to import the manufactures of outside barbarians in exchange for our own produce. So how did they lose, not one but, TWO WARS against the fucking Bongs? >China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars Which, by the way, was started by the Chinese raiding ships and seizing cargo on the excuse that it was to "prevent" the trade of opium (But really to steal stuff without having to pay for it), but all the while ignoring that Chinese elites had been smoking that shit for centuries (Even during their "ban"), and that the actual peace treaties and agreements of the now so-called "Opium Wars" only ever mentioned opium ONCE' in demanding a reparation of "six million dollars". And all this was topped by another bout of Chinese stupidity half a century later with the Boxer Rebellion. Where the Chinese decided that the "best" way to expel all the foreigners was to kill their own people and destroy thousands of years of Chinese history.
>>41272 >Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. Nope, those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs, like 1-2 months worth of a factorie job, cooler master had by example 30 millions USD of stuff frozen in a buffer land, instead from directly send 100%-80% to USA and later send it to the rest of the world, cooler master will be forced to open local HUB's distribution sites, but this will take like 5-6 months, even less American jobs by the process finished, the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded as the Autartic Spain, the only way to solve the monetary impairs i to return gold standard, but muttmerica stole it in the 70's at the first place, so the lack of confidence still there, also America in the 50's lacks of competition post WW2 by obvious reasons (factories blew up in Japan, Europe, China, and cold war cut in half Europe as a USSR slave states), but again if you want make America great again, paired with a value standard, tie up the banking sector, and work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, or by soft power blow up the entire world in a WW3 scenario with a confidence of USA will win.
>>41272 If you have to resort to this level of reality denial to make orange daddy seem competent it might be time to rethink your life.
>>41272 >Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? Not an argument. It will be a zero-sum game (really unnecessary use of words here anon) when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds.
>>41298 >those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs Like those six jumbo jets filled with iPhones? >the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. >>41355 >Not an argument. Yes, it is. You're presenting two options and saying those are the "only possible outcomes" without any proof or consideration of any alternative scenarios that are just as realistically possible or likely. >when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. In fact, if this entire tariff situation is "just enough" to destroy the "entire system", how "stable" was it in actuality if all it took was a fucking reality TV show host saying "We're going to tax you 10% for using our markets"?
>>41401 >Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. Explain to me, how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA, even at neutral countries in other continental soil, not soft power level speak off....
>>41437 >how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA Outside of our country and claimed territories, anywhere from none to probably one per a country we directly consider to be an "ally". But then again, the American military doesn't have all those foreign bases to "secure" our country or freedoms. Those bases exist because countries are paying us to do it (If we're not practically doing it for free). Because ever dollar they don't have to spend on creating their own military is a dollar they can spend on whateve bullshit social services program they want. And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit.
>>41401 >They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. We're going in circles anon. >Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same. Especially when pretty quickly here the only people left buying bonds will be the Fed. After Powell leaves in 2027 Trump will get his syncophants in place they're going to drop the interest rates and drop us right into a Lost Decade(s) scenario. It's foolishness to admit that there's a problem and to do nothing BUT make it worse.
>>41538 >And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit. Either you're too young to remember or you're flat out lying. Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. It went on for nearly a decade too until people started learning about what being the "World Police" looked like in Iraq.
>>41589 >Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. No, that's how Bush described in that particular instance. And he was wrong. Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. And even further from that, the people that WANT America to be the "World Police" are the same groups (Like the WEF and Open Societies) trying to bring about a global Communist dictatorship, with the government of said world order being the United Nations. So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit.
>>41606 It was absolute not "just" the President of the United States Bush calling The United States the World Police. Come on now. >Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. So if this all isn't true anymore how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? >So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit. What are you talking about?
>>41610 >how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? There's not going to be a war. And if there is, it's none of our business. At the very most, it's going to be another North Korea situation, where an illegitmate regime is trying to flex it's power over the region, but that power only comes from their alliance with West Taiwan. And West Taiwan is more worried about trying to take Taiwan Proper than wanting to devote any resources to the Middle East, especially when their own economy is on life support and Russia is busy having funtimes in Ukraine. Then there's also the aspect that Iran has every other country to deal in that region because, surprise surprise, the sandniggers are tired of being in a constant state of warfare and actually want a society that develops for once, which is why you see countries denouncing the Islam (By sayinig that they're "returning" to the "true teachings" of the Quran) and making alliances with Israel. The only "power" card Iran has is the Palestinians, which is a losing play when even the fucking Kikes are tired of this shit and are in active revolt against Bibi (Who allowed the October attack to happen in the first palce despite every other country warning him) because they want nothing to do with his military regime and the prospect of a "Greater Israel". If anything, we're entering another Great War situation where you have elites trying to force a war across the global and a populace who wants nothing to do with it. And they're trying to prevent another Christmas Truce breakdown of their narrative by running 24/7 propaganda about how much we should "hate" these other countries and the people in them, but please ignore the elites who HAVE been in power, are STILL in power, actually created these situations in the first fucking place, and are now pushing for how the "only" two options is total global dictatorship or outright societal collapse like those are the "only" two directions things can go.
>>41613 You have no idea what you're talking and are just rambling anon. Are you just lying all the time or have you somehow convinced yourself that this is all genuinely true? >There's not going to be a war. >And if there is, it's none of our business. There is most likely going to be a war anon. Trump is even more completely whipped by Israel than Biden war. I would bet mine and yours life that plans to devastate Iran and it's nuclear enrichment program are being made right now. Just to be clear, the wars in Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen all already involve the US either as a the direct arm's dealer or it's literally us bombing the shit out of Israel's enemies.
>>41616 >There is most likely going to be a war anon. Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry, like Saudi Arabia: archive.ph/LBWov archive.ph/8VbKE And war would be the LAST thing they should desire since there's also the UAE, and Bahrain: archive.ph/vAIT0 And Jordan also getting tired of their shit: archive.ph/a7d6z
>>41629 >Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry You're actually retarded anon. Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat than the combined Israel + United States military? NO it obviously fucking isn't.
>>41631 >Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat ARE they a threat? Doesn't matter if there's a "bigger" threat somewhere else, is Saudi Arabia a threat to Iran? Also you seem pretty insistance to treat this entire situation like there's ONLY three countries in play (Iran, Israel, and the U.S.), all the while ignoring that there other nations in the region who have to deal with this shit, or even the nations backing Iran's endavors which is why they're capable of acting so high-and-mighty in the first place (In addition to ignoring the state those countries supporting it are in).
>>41636 >Whatabout this, whatabout that. you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid. this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police when everyone in the world knows that isn't true. pipe down.
>>41637 >you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid And you don't have an argument, so you're resorting to ad hominems because you cannot or refuse to answer the questions presented. >this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police Because we don't. Why would ANY country want to be saddled with constantly having to solving political disputes between nations, and having to send our own population to the fatherest regions of the planet in order to solve conflicts that having nothing to do with us?
>>39477 I don't trust the chinks but trusting the US hasn't made anyone a favor, so I wouldn't consider China the biggest threat purely because I know the world would remain very reluctant towards the chinese/indians even if the US suddenly disappeared. That claim is just the US Cold War era Feds psyop propaganda as shown by proxy/interventionist wars. Leaving the US, its government, agencies and the ever-trusting voter as the biggest threat. The US isn't protecting the West from some big scary enemy out there either but have done the contrary for nearly a century. Given the state of the establishment, I cannot see a single reason on why anyone could trust the US unless they are members of the Elite or an agency, I'd rather have the chinks or anybody else get rid of it because I know people are never gonna trust the chinese the same way they fell for the US psyops. >antagonism before the tariffs Before. Its like signtap.jpg, Trump backing down on many of his decisions while blaming Biden pretty much proves that the US backing down on certain things is not done out of good intent as its pictured by the Republicans but because they are desperate in keeping their position, as soon as they reassure said position, they'll just sabotage their own people, every ally enforcing more garbage. Trump just happens to be their puppet actor and might even have colluded with the Democrats at some point. State police control/Excessive regulation becoming a major issue within the US and the western world is also another bad sign on the direction elites are taking, its pretty much just like the Cold War, with even less freedom than ever. To trust the US is a bet with little to no rewards and too many risks. I know the changes in world geopolitics would obviously affect everyone, heck, it will probably send many western countries into hyperinflation or complete market crash while the faggot politicians in need of a rope run away, but historically speaking, the current status quo is only gonna make things way worse
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Donald Trump is reportedly making a decision to soften the blow of automotive tariffs by making automakers not charged for other duties like steel and aluminum tariffs, per the WSJ
>>42004 No surprise that Trump would handpick the Auto industry to be a winner business. Sucks to suck for everyone else who imports Steel and Aluminum lol
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I understand the reasoning behind this strategically speaking but could they not have come up with less retarded justification?
>>39680 Except that's virtually never the case in manufacturing. Large operations can and have paid people $30/hour to push a fucking button all day, because it's part of the the process that makes the high-value product. This has been seen in the auto industry for decades. This is the most jewish fucking argument I've heard in decades.
>>42258 i think they need to disclose the amount that will be owed by the customer upon receipt in order to reduce the number of customers who will refuse the package. correct me if this is wrong
>>42313 It's for Amazon Haul which is a Temu competitor. So it makes perfect sense for Amazon to show you the cost of tariffs before you buy, seeing as they're what 145% now on China? Trump Admin must be genuinely afraid of the bad PR though given the incredibly hostile reaction to it.


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