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Anonymous 04/23/2025 (Wed) 17:44:57 Id: 3fe1da No. 36537
Is DOGE just a cover for Elon Musk to steal all confidential data held by the US government and feed it to his AIs?
>>36884 Republicans are almost entirely out of the system. Democrats basically rule society. Did you EVER wonder why Republicans aren’t in charge of ANY institution, large corporation, media studio, etc? Do you EVER wonder why all right-wing / pro-Republican personalities / influencers are pushing merchandise (unless they work for Fox News) and seem hooked up with foriegn oligarchs? Because the right wing is almost entirely driven out of mainstream society. I believe that happened after the corporate money dried up following the end of the climate change debate — then the NRA started running out of money, then poof, Republicans no longer had a spot in the "system", and so the only way they can operate is by latching on to alternative forms of income.
>>36902 well there is an example of an advanced, comprehensive surveillance state that uses AI to arrest people for social media posts and "pre-crime" (I'm not joking). Israel. Look into their surveillance of Palestinians. It's them now, but soon it will be you. Israeli surveillance in Palestine is basically all encompassing. Cameras are everywhere, litteraly everywhere. People have to pass through government checkpoints, where they can be detained or killed completely arbitrarily, for the smallest of offenses. Israeli authorities have all the data on every Palestinian, and use it to carry out attacks and remove "disruptive elements" what makes you a disruptive element? Anything that isn't lying down and taking it. Additionally, the Israelis use settlers to stratify Palestine. Palestinians live with little water, under constant threat of Israeli attacks for no reason, in makeshift refugee camps under 24/7 surveillance. Above them, often litteraly above them, are rich and developed Israeli settlements where rich settlers live, totally walled off and alienated from the ones who live below. The rich in the West look upon Israel with envy. Israel In it's current state is the new world order they want to enact everywhere else. Minorities exist as slaves to the elite and second class citizens, and have measures taken to suppress their fertility to maintain the Jewish stranglehold over the country.
>>36902 >jailtime You're missing another key point anon. Crime is legal now if you have the money. Just make a small donation of 5 million to Trump and get a Presidential pardon. All your problems can go away for 5 mil. That's a whopping 0.00001% of Musk's net worth.
>>36906 >Republicans are almost entirely out of the system. Democrats basically rule society. Did you EVER wonder why Republicans aren’t in charge of ANY institution, large corporation, media studio, etc? Trump IS a Republican. Republicans have the majority in the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court. The entire Federal Government is essentially owned and operated by Republicans. Please stop LARPing as an armchair expert about shit you clearly don't understand. You're somehow making American Rightoids look smart.
>>36926 The fucking gall of you talking (making shit up) about Trump's pardons after what Biden did. The fucking GALL And before you start, I am no Trump fan. At all. Give your head a shake.
>>36938 >whataboutism Biden Please Britoid-anon spare me your charade, nobody gives a fuck about your paper thin "righteous indignation" act. Why does the truth about Trump upset you so much if you're not a Trumptoid at heart?
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>>36926 >Crime is legal now if you have the money. >now Anon, that's how politics have always worked, you see this all throughout history.
>>36665 He is basically in charge of the US space operations since nasa is a failure nowadays, he owns so many satellites and starlink, he isnt some random hobo of the streets he already has the hgihest clearance you can get, also uts impossible to do an actual audit of the federal govt and everything it oversees without getting this information, because you need to cross reference so many different things that missing them could easily result in an ineffectual and impotent audit. Ultimately it is histrionics surrounding the doge stuff with hyperbole and insinuations about hin just being evil and stealing stuff, irregardless of the actual work being done or attempted
>>36945 >truth You're a fucking joke mate
>>36695 You dont need a trained "auditor" you need people that can parse information in this massively bloated organization referred to as the federal govt, then take that information and cross reference it with some much other bullshit that it can only realistically be done by a computer due to the sheer amount of information, and the whole who is leading it is an irrelevant question that serves no ourpose ither than try to undermine what doge is doing. These retarded complaints also undermine any actual criticism of doge such as how their recommendations are sometimes bad but that can also be attributed to the speed with which they need to operate and can overrall be less of an issue so long as issues are identified and promptly fixed
>>36948 Arguably yes. But the total sellout of the Presidential Pardon is a new low even by American's already pretty fucking low standards. >>36958 >he already has the hgihest clearance you can get He has Top Secret clearance for things HE NEESDS TO KNOW - as a SpaceX Defense Contractor. That doesn't include IRS tax information. >>36959 Stay mad Trumptoid.
>>36970 <she fell for the AI grift Genuine question for you coming from me a machine learning software developer, do you actually believe that today's AI can "realistically" do anything you're suggesting? Cause that's hilarious if true.
>>36900 USAID was a multi billion dollar govt piece, small at that, and it was effectively a way to just pour millions into a bunch of corporations with little to no oversight or requirement for outcomes. The whole social security thing even if what they had was hyperbole it shows just how archaic the system is in how the catalog and store information, and it showed how easily it could be fucked with so that social security fraud could happen en masse. Rich people doung what they can to lower there taxes sounds horrible and all but its less of a concern of most people mainly because a billionair or millionair or whatever still pays more than most large groups of people will. Fuck when they say those rich only pay less than half it doesnt ever account for a couple dozen people matching 10s of millions of normal people. This is also why i want more tariffs because they would be a great supplement to the US financials
>>36926 Ya man its only mow with evil trump and musk that rich people can get away with crime unlike the decades previously where the wealthy were all held to the exact same standard
>>36537 DOGE is part of the controlled demolition of the American Empire. We're going into a multipolar world order where technocracy rules. Get ready for AI government because that's what Musk is selling.
>>36999 <It's okay when Trump does it because nobody should ever be held to ANY standards ever anymore Interesting take anon
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>>36959 This is a cursed thread filled with NGMIs. I already sorely miss 4chan. Even with 90% of the posts being bots/ shills, and 5% idiot tourists, the remaining 5% was of such a higher caliber of intellectual discourse, global understanding, that it puts 99% of the legit posters here to shame.
>>36972 For the fulfillment of the objectives of DOGE then he does in fact need to be able to access information, an audit of the govt requires a lot of stuff to be seen and collected and this faux outrage of security clearance doesnt hold water because he is already trusted with that lvl of clearance, and regardless almost all info is need to know, you cant just ask about 99% of shit the govt does cuz of all the red tape
>>36979 In terms of taking a lot of information from incredibly large sources and able to reliably summarize or collate the data, you see this in a lesser way with google able to give coherent answers just on the search page without even going to a website, and it links the references for it on the summarization
>>37083 This morale arguments fall flat because the intention behind them is that it is a uniquely trump thing as was little to extinct previously, only enforcing rules when you feel like it is a show of greater corruption
>>36537 Obviously, yes.
>>36958 >He is basically in charge of the US space operations lol, you're fucking retarded
>>36537 He already has, and called out Jay-Z for buying Beyonce's albums to artificially make her top the music charts. Now what happens when this tech starts comparing the Bitcoin block chain (NON FUNGIBLE) and compares it to bank records? All the criminals go to jail. >>36580 You can't sell classified data. Trump can authorize anyone to see any classified data he wants. He could fire anyone he wants and replace them with anyone he wants. That's why he's the chief executive of the executive branch.
>>37153 >google able to give coherent answers just on the search page without even going to a website, Anon, how do you think they know that website has the data you're interested in?
>>37222 He is doing better than nasa and the shit he has going on with starlink and satellites covers a lot of ground
>>37230 Ai bullshit, which the utilization of might be the only way tobscour through all the information that the govt has in any sort of reasonable timeframe, humans just cant read, categorize, memorize, or interpret information as fast as a computer
>>37235 LMAO, imagine thinking spacex can unironically compare with nasa. SpaceX is a fraudulent program, nasa would actually do shit if they got government funding.
>>36537 They're preparing for WWIII. Cutting off the dead weight frees up resources for the war and creates a class of unemployed retards that don't have a choice but to join the millitary.
>>37160 This is what we call Rightoid projection. Just say what you want to say "it's okay when Trump does it".
>>37153 You don't know what you're talking about anon. >>37237 >AI bullshit Case and point. Google basically invented modern day web crawling. Which has literally nothing to do with machine learning / AI because it wasn't invented for roughly 2 more decades.
>>38711 >unemployed retards sounds like us. most of us would fight tooth and nail to not get drafted aswell any other gen z whites so idk if their gonna get results they hope for.
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BREAKING: Elon Musk & DOGE reveal Department of Education officials were using TAXPAYER DOLLARS to rent out STADIUMS and CAESAR'S PALACE for parties BLATANT THEFT. Elon Musk: "As soon as we started requiring them to upload receipts, all this spending STOPPED. " ANOTHER reason to abolish the DoE!
proofs?
>>42764 Merged
>US Treasury Shocks With Second Biggest Budget Surplus In History archive.ph/6ygM7 <Two weeks ago, as part of its quarterly refunding announcement, the Treasury surprised the market when it unveiled a funding need for the current quarter that was $53 billion lower than it had initially forecast in February, and which we said "indicates that DOGE is indeed working and the US funding needs are actually declining." <Needless to say, for a market that was habituated to Joe Biden's debt-funded drunken sailor spending ways, the news that the US would needs less - not more - spending than previously expected, came as a shock, and yields slumped as less debt than expected would be required to fund the world's most indebted government. <Today we got the reason why the borrowing need of the US was surprisingly lower than previously expected, and it was revealed in the latest Treasury Monthly Statement laying out the US government's monthly deficit... or rather surplus. Yes, we are so used to describing the sum-total of the US government's monthly income statement as a deficit (i.e., more spending than revenue) that it has become automatic to assume that every month the US will spend more than it brings in. Only this time that wasn't the case. <Presenting Exhibit A: in April, the US Treasury generated a $258.4 billion surplus after last month's $160.5 billion deficit; this the second biggest surplus on record, with just the $308 billion bumper surplus in 2021 bigger.
>Is DOGE Starting To Work? 'Deep TriState' Jobless Claims Surged Last Week archive.ph/V6Eai <The number of Americans filing for jobless benefits for the first time was flat from the prior week at 229k (the same level it was at in Jan 2022)... <Headline continuing claims remains below the Maginot Line of 1.9 million Americans... <But, drilling down, the 'Deep Tristate' saw initial jobless claims spike last week... <...and continuing jobless claims in the 'Deep TriState' also rose as perhaps DOGE is starting to have some effects...


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