We're already fucking here, anon. The dollar has lost 99.4% of its value since 1913. Every single natural law has been violated by the government with no retribution. There are 60,000,000 illegals in the US and tens of millions of "legal" nonwhites. War is already here.

>>19944 Checked. Collapse isn't something that happens "one day". It's a process of various systems breaking down. You're seeing that now with all of the airline accidents, for example. It's been happening for a while, but now it's beginning to show up on a daily basis. Avoid big cities and stock up on everything you need while you can.

>>19946 This.

Another question would be; "Where does one go to survive?" Obviously big cities are out of the question.

>>19947 >Avoid big cities Unless you need to earn a living, I guess. >just learn to code and work from home! it's the new big thing! kek >>19959 For 95% there will be no "go." When drinkable water no longer comes from a tap, the area in which this takes place becomes an abattoir. Not many will last long. How much drinkable water do you have? Will your neighbors kill you for it? If "total collapse" takes place, shit's gonna be Biblical.

>>19944 It's not going to, we don't have one unified society that would collapse, we have several. If one is going to collapse, a different one is going to be just fine. There are things that can get really fucked if certain societies like Taiwan collapse but those are not on verge on collapsing as of right now. Even societies closest to collapse like China or Russia are not even close even as they are doing shit. At worst they will be forced to change their systems instead of their country getting destroyed. MAYBE Russia will fall apart into smaller states. US has its problems but a lot of that is external rather than internal, and people are slowly moving away from leftism into more conservative and libertarian moderate options. Which is good, we swung into one side too much so now we have to go back. Fuck, even jews which were a pretty progressive demographic due to their retarded beliefs that progressives are going to help them, have been turning less leftist after commies showed their true colours. Things are going to get worse before they get better, but we are slowly moving away from abject retardation into something more sensible. Now let's hope that no mongoloid authoritarian faggot will take over our civilization and make things even worse than they were. Though with Milei doing quite well, people might actually turn to libertarian solutions hopefully.

>>19944 (nice dub-dubs) You've been living the collapse for the last 20 years. At least.

2 moar weeks

>>19946 And yet the regime is still standing! The government itself violates physical laws by existing while every single pillar which supports it has been destroyed. >>20048 > people are slowly moving away from leftism into more conservative and libertarian moderate options Respectfully, this is extremely naive and you are ignoring basic things about American politics. You say, "people" are becoming conservative. If you mean only White people, then sort of. Currently, around 55% of American voting *Whites* are "conservative." That's pretty fucking pathetic if you compare that to every other race on planet earth. It's nearly an even split at a time when races are competing for dominance and niggers are openly talking about committing genocide, real genocide with guns, against White people. Niggers vote >90% for Democrats. Spics vote significantly greater than 70% Democrat (Castisos skew the real number significantly lower than the real number because Castisos are technically White but lumped in with spics by the census takers) The nigger birth rate is higher than the national average and the spic birthrate nearly double the nigger birth rate. Immigrants, who are 85% or more non-White, have an even higher Democrat voting rate than their respective ethnic kin in America and a far higher birthrate. And they come in by the million. The average age of conservatives is 50. Conservative Whites are not having children. Even hyper-Christians are producing fewer than 2.5 sustainable births per female. It is insane. But this is now aside the point. You claim that "people" are becoming more conservative. No. Even if Whites shifted to a NORMAL 70% support for the less anti-White party, we would still lose elections consistently in the next few decades because non-Whites don't vote Republican. They're not liberals but liberal and conservative are idiot-politics. I only use voting conservative as a lazy indicator that one is not openly hostile to White people.

National conscription is coming, dumbasses. The WEF is looking to rev up the war machine to save itself and listless white people who do nothing but bitch online make for perfect cannon fodder against much Russia.

>>20744 Well, good luck getting me to join the regime's army.

>>19944 We're in that collapse, now. I would suggest brushing up on the Home Guard Auxiliaries from the Second World War. Infact, Americans should do that, too. They were the original specialists - those who were to sabotage any attempt for the Germans to, if they invaded, set up a Vichy-style government. The Home Guard built up hundreds of extremely well-hidden bunkers, and trained to assassinate any collaborationists who emerged. Fascinating group. It's odd to me that Americans don't do that - there are so many national parks, so much wilderness, yet so few hidden bunkers. You can literally set out and dig pretty far with what you can store in a regular car. Then, piece-by-piece, stock it up with whatever you need. All it takes is regular hand tools.

It's a controlled demolition that takes care of not destroying too many assets. A few towers fall, the city endures. >>20048 >two more weeks All people defending democracy should get the rope.

>>21817 How would you know if hidden bunkers exist or not?

>>21882 Because nobody mentions techniques related to them or materials used. You'd expect to see atleast one Forest Brothers style guide for the National Parks of the USA.

>>21891 The best I can do is tell you that I knew a guy who claimed to know a guy who lived in a small cave / bunker he dug for himself by a tree in sandy soil. Apparently it wasn't entirely unliveable and he went for longer than I expected (a few months) before he was told by the police to stop living there. His family had a place in the city, he just didn't want to live there, and came back once in a while.

History is not a circle but a spiral, we will definitely see some kind of societal breakdown but it will manifest differently. I think we are already seeing the transition of society into something catastrophic. Can't pinpoit exactly where we're heading but I'm sure there's no coming back

>>22392 Withe both Canadian and European governments letting their masks fall off and exposing themselves as war mongers who want to to force everyone to give them money forever under threat of global war, it will be even faster to start World War 3 now.

>>20048 Milei Is a Jewish scam artist and you are a bigger.

It won’t happen. It’ll be like the Fall of Rome: we’ll just get progressively poorer as the years and decades march on, the competency crisis will get deeper causing innovation to continually stagnate and all complex human endeavors will slowly fall apart. We’ll regress to a simpler form of civilization, but there won’t be some dramatic crash with chaos and mobs on the street, it’ll be a new Dark Age which will go on for who knows how long (maybe forever). People will continue to live their lives, but it’ll lived within the decaying ruins of a more advanced civilization, like.an East European post Soviet vibe.except that there will be no West to flee to.

>>19944 What do you think DOGE is for? Ripping out USAID? Hypertarriffs for 3 days and then nothing. They're flinging shit at the wall because nothing is working. The collapse is here. >>37602 No, something catastrophic will break. Our civilization is far, far more complex than Rome, by multiple orders of magnitude. People are going to be fucking homeless in their 40s and their parents they've been living with are going to die and the house will be seized because there's too much debt going around. Do you know what people are going to stop doing? Working. At a certain point there is not even enough return for a homeless person working full time to make payments on their debts. What are these people going to do? Never mind the MASSES of men who have been priced out of relationships by being forced into parent's-basement homelessness. THAT reckoning would be swift compared to what you describe. Those numbers are tipping FAST. Look at South Korea's sexless society, which is maybe 5 years ahead of the US on that front. At least their country is small and ethnically stable from what I can tell.

>>21817 >>21891 The US government/military is confident enough in our geographical isolation to not fear any sort of land invasion. Anything along the lines of "assassinating collaborators" is done by the FBI and they have plenty of secret bunkers spread about the country I assure you. But instead of collaborators the FBI is more concerned with stamping out any white Americans who would try and accomplish exactly what you're suggesting (Waco, Ruby Ridge, local militias, etc).

>>20048 >There are things that can get really fucked if certain societies like Taiwan collapse >Even societies closest to collapse like China or Russia >even jews... have been turning less leftist God, I never thought I'd miss retarded Polish takes

>>19944 probably within the next 3 years The old elite is definitely going to try to collapse the world economy under Trump

The better questions are: >How long do we have until the 6th seal of the apocalypse? 15 years >How long do we have until the 7 trumpets? 21 years

>>19944 Past and current leadership has done as much as they can possibly do to make sure that the collapse is slow. A lot of anons incorrectly assume that there will be a quick crash, when everything points towards a slow lingering decline into a regressed industrialized state. >competency crisis They can't do much about this one without going back into the educational institutions and rebuilding them from scratch with near modern pre-infection advancements in psychology and neuroscience. What makes this much worse is that there is also a competency crisis when it comes to professors and teachers, who do not understand that a lot of what they were taught in terms of teaching and training people is actually outdated and ineffective. I think the only reason why we were able to build a system that worked in the first place was the sheer degree of societal trust and moral and ethical pillars in pre WW2 institutions. Somehow back then, teachers and professors just trying really hard to do a good job while being buttressed by traditional classical and Christian morals and ethics seemed to be able to produce valuable citizens that could set more advancements in motion. The plundering and parasitizing off of educational institutions and the political tampering to create propaganda centers have completely eroded any previous existence of such safeguards. Its not just about creating propaganda centers, it is also simultaneously about plundering students of any wealth that they would have been able to build off of their education and creating a bloated educational administration that serves both the goal of plundering and the goal of social engineering. The effects of the competency crisis are widespread in every single industry. To the point that many businesses do not want to invest in workers who have college educations, or if they do they themselves are already highly compromised and view it as a badge of honor to have been indoctrinated and a pre-requisite for workers to enter their company culture to have already gone through programming and conditioning. Just depends, really. OTJ training is much more common than it use to be, that is for certain. That's how you can figure out if you are entering a compromised career field or not, if they want an associates that you can get from community college, that's a green flag. That's probably a pretty solid career field, but if they want a fucking bachelors or higher, and that's a filter for them- it's not worth it. You're entering a den of hyenas unless its a STEM career field- but the STEM career fields are being targeted via H1B and the variety of other work visa programs. Community college is where real education happens, for the most part IMO. Community college and OTJ, or technical schools where there is no room for propagandizing students. Those are the last vestiges of actual educational advancement. So if you think about it, that's what we got. All the really big, highly important industries depend on a compromised educational pipeline that is producing shittier and shitter workers that are less and less educated on actually doing their job right. It's worse than just diversity equity and inclusion, every single student is compromised. Real education is a practical fusion of theoretical learning and practical application, hopefully buttressed by a code of rigid ethics that no one is allowed to deviate from that propagate societal trust and cooperation among people at all levels. However, even the theoretical aspect of learning has been severely damaged. To answer the main question posed by the thread: there will be no quick collapse, just a continual downward trajectory of brazilification and degredation, both in infrastructure and every vital institution that we rely on, be it government or private- it will continue to slowly slide into a more regressed state than it was previously without any final big drop or fall- there won't ever be a full drop into chaos. Once chaos is properly normalized, that's when the actual anarchy will begin- we've already seen anarchy, we just haven't seen it completely normalized. The collapse is here when going outside and trying to work your regular job requires a fucking AR-15 strapped to your back and full battle rattle, just in case local gangs decide to pop your tires and flip your car so they can steal all of your shit. When the police forces are incapable of enforcing any kind of order or producing any kind of fear in the common man for the repercussions of any action they might think about taking. That is what the collapse looks like, it looks like poorly maintained supply chains, stores that are under constant assault, normalized burglaries with multiple individuals, normalized car jackings- not being able to live your life without being ready for combat at a moments notice.

>>38680 A true collapse looks like >extremely volatile prices >bridges collapsing, overpasses collapsing, trains derailing >industrial accident after industrial accident >a stagnation of wages and a stagnation in job creation >job destruction, I.E this company fires 5000 workers, this company downsizes by 10,000 workers, but constantly in a downward trend >basic public infrastructure falling apart, dams breaking, water treatment facilities becoming non-functional due to lack of parts >large scale manufacturing downsizing due to lack of specialists to manufacture, repair and replace specific parts vital to industrialized systems >huge increase in crime due to lack of legal economic opportunities >failing healthcare system due to incompetency >roads never being fixed >small businesses being suffocated to death economically >people not being able to make their monthly debt payments We slowly ease ourselves into this situation, it doesn't just happen overnight.

>>19944 as a brit? you will never ever see the Sun again and will live the most Dystopian lifestyle you have never imagined. America will be living grand and happy along with its Allies. The entire world has to think about how many cycles of healthy topsoil they have until a gigantic famine occurs the likes of which the world has never seen before. Then there's the civilization ending event that we evade by going to mars.

>>38838 Mildly amusing.

>>38838 USA doesn't have allies though Never has.

>>38868 >>38868 >1PBTID >British Flag >Claims USA has no allies and never has lol lmao

>>38868 allies are just temporary non-enemies

>>38879 The USA has always viewed its "allies" as more like vassals or proxies. Hence why the USA has consistently worked to weaken them. Financing and arming the IRA, stopping Britain and France from taking control of the Suez canal, siding with Argentina over the Falkland islands. The USA doesn't want allies. Allies are a risk because they might get strong enough to turn on you. It wants dependent vassals.

>>38932 This is why we should become a nationalist empire with a traditions, a strong military and ww2 industrial production instead of some gay ass constitutional "democracy" run by Jews and pander to niggers, wahmens and fags. Canada should American property right now.

>>39111 Thats kind of what you tried to do. But your empire was fake and gay because you never really had a plan nor did you work for it. You just got handed the world on a silver platter because Europe spent a good fifty or so years killing itself.

>>39125 Doesn't help we were founded by freemasons and had French influence. We'd might have been alright if Prussia somehow influenced us or George Washington became king.

>>39130 This occult continent was cursed from its discovery.

>>39130 You literally just copy pasted leveller manifestos for your entire school of political thought. There wasn't an original thought to be found in the new world colonies.

>>39139 Curse of the Indians. We were cursed as soon as Jews brought niggers over for for sale that ended with a civil war and the kikes keeping niggers here instead of sending them back to shifrica. . >>39142 So what? Is there anything wrong

>>19944 People still have bread and circus. No third places to gather so any public demonstration is met by riot gear police. As long as people can still afford slop to eat daily and have tv or phone for entertainment then this will continue. A weimer type situation is not even near our current situation. We might be peak weimer in 10 years if we are lucky. Then no true backlash for 15 or 20 from now. I'd love if it did happen now but we can't be lucky enough to skip the hard times.

>>39146 >Curse of the Indians Imagine how cursed the indians were. Their entire civilization was built on indian burial grounds.

Just a few more months anon. It will begin with Ukraine being taken over by Russia finally, the US financial crisis, the Iran War, Pakistan and India War

>>38932 <To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal

>>39204 What you wish, will happen.

There is no way on earth that the endless influx of niggers, pajeets and muslims into Britain and Europe isn't going to result in ever increasing economic dysfunction, collapsing infrastructure, social division and violence. Anyone in Britain with their eyes open can see all these things happening in real time, but its a gradual process. Things are going to continually get worse since how can they not, when the country is continually becoming more brown? At what point someone might consider it a 'collapse' is arbitrary. We can argue about it, so long as the process is gradual. But a sudden point of catastrophe where everything dramatically gets worse in a short time is certainly possible. And god knows the cowards, traitors and retards in government are doing their best to find it.

>>38932 Quit lying. The United States of America has been under Jewish Occupation since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913. None of the relationships they have made in the last 100 years have been made by patriots, they have all been made by Satanic Globalists. To say otherwise is to lie to the public. The United States of America stands for Freedom, Justice, and Democracy. It is a republic of the people, for the people, and by the people. Even people outside of America understand what it means to be an American. WWG1WGA

>>40246 The USA has always been a duplicitous, scheming and treacherous bunch.

>>19944 Always has been. Difference is you can recover from bombs faster than niggers and troons.

>>37625 All this is already happening, that is why you see so much inorganic spam insisting that men engage with soyciety.

>>39204 You sure about that? All the circuses are trooning out and someone is false flagging cows again raising ground beef prices.