>>22456 This is just my opinion as a prior Marine, but I think it's fine to get something ambi if that's your thing. I always favored training both hands on everything anyway. Actually, training is far more important than the gear. In any apocalypse, there will always be more guns than people. But if you're going to grab that ambi gun and you want it to last a long time, get one with higher end parts, privately made (more expensive). Maintain it, maybe even get some spare parts if you want to go full prepper. The main thing there is ammo. You want it to fire something very abundant. That's a common refrain among vets and why so many get similar rifles to ones in service. It's not that we are just addicted to one weapon most of the time, although it is something you're already skilled in. Often requirements for a different mission are more ideal for something different. And what's with your goal of fucking dying? 90% of self-defense is just awareness of the environment. Nononsenseselfdefense covers that well. The next 5% is using a basic firearm. The next 3% is basic martial arts. The next 1% is more advanced moving, shooting, and fighting, and tactics. The last 1% you never reach, but you get a piece of it with advanced training and topics after all that.

>>22456 >second American Civil War, Stop with this meme

>>22456 not reading all that nigger

>>22456 You want high caliber plus commonly avilable or easily manufactured so a shotgun is realistically very good for stopping power you should get that since it has versatility and most ammo for it is incredibly easy to make except of course slugs which have to be cast or forged

>>22456 Oh and if youre staying in big cities then youre already doomed

>>22456 >Given the imminent second American Civil War what? America aint going to implode for some Trump tariffs kek. calmdown schizo. Also >PS90 and KelTec shit. Ew, imagine liking bullpups unironically. I am kidding, I love the weirdness of bullpups kek.

>>22526 >You want it to fire something very abundant So, 5.56 or .223 (why not both) >higher end parts >maybe even get some spare parts Good point. Thanks Anon. >>22541 Eventually, the Left is going to have to come to Karl that their Lord and Savior Karl Marx is a religious leader. Marxism isn't science, and their insistence on pushing it onto people is going to lead to a religious conflict. Something like The Troubles. >calmdown schizo I probably should.

>>22540 Don't you live on an iceberg, if supply chains fail you're fucked

>>22456 It’s both , a good ar-15 will serve you well so long as it’s not cheap garbage and can hold optics and attachments, so something at bare minimum 700-800 dollars made by a reputable brand , colt , S&w, armalite , fn and bushmaster being the best of the best Police trade in’s are also a very excellent option , also buy a good sidearm to go with it , preferably something with good logistics also like a Glock , however if you wanna do a hk vp9 or S&w m&p or Walther pdp those are good options also The main reason I choose the ar-15 myself is logistics , And btw it doesn’t just have to be a ar-15 but that is what I recommend for logistics , it could be a lmt piston rifle , one of the new daewoo rifles coming in , or even something as rare as a 416 if you could get your hands on one , just as long as it’s in 5.56 and takes standard m4 and ar-15 magazines

either an ar 15 in 556 or a 12 gauge in case FPVs are a concern to you

Death to all 4cuck moderators and jannies. They do it for free. >and what I mean by that is that they do things that deny a sense of any self-preservation and they do that, for FREE. thats all 4cuck had for moderation and thats why the site was shit and thats WHY it was hacked in the first place. The story I heard was the wojak guys came around and were using /qa/ to make posts in, along with everywhere else, and noone was moderating /qa/ board, they decideed to raid /lbgt/ the fag board the site put up for them. they ended up deleting /qa/ and thats when they put up the censorship for soy. so, wrap this up, 4chan catered to the faggots and banned the wojaks. No wonder why they got hacked. anyway I heard some of that and thats why I think that they hacked 4cuck and why they are so much hated for. That and the times Ive seen great posts get deleted, just so some horseshit that should be banned instead stays up. LIke they wanted to host a site with a bunch of people who hated the place and wanted to see it go down like they hated their users.

>>22956 damn thought i was making a topic. oh well. lol

>Mid-tier AR-15 minimum with a high-quality bolt carrier group >Generation 3 Glock 19 or one of the common well-reviewed clones, i.e. PSA Dagger It's the most basic bitch loadout for a reason; it works. These are what you get when you finish the tutorial against bots and rank up to level 1. These are the way to go. The guns are everywhere, the parts are everywhere, info is everywhere, 5.56 and 9x19 are everywhere (until there's a panic, so stock up while the going's good.) Both are extensively tested, both are extensively proven. These two guns should be your number one priority, ideally starting off with a Glock because you can have it with you in many more situations than an AR. If you actually care about being able to reliably defend yourself and your loved ones in some manner of SHTF situation, STAY AWAY from special snowflake cool-factor shit like PS90s. Guns, like cars, are machines, and as such will never be perfectly 100% reliable no matter what. Going with a basic bitch 16" barrel AR with a carbine-length gas system means that if you run into any problems, there are decades worth of information on how to fix it, and if it requires replacement parts, they are affordable and readily available. No worrying about "Will this ammo cycle in my particular gun? Will I have to do tuning with buffer weights and springs? Can I get parts for this?" NO SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SHIT UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR RELIABLE, EFFECTIVE GUNS ALREADY!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!! SHTF situations are usually a long, drawn-out, day-by-day breakdown in quality of life and social cohesion. You probably won't wake up tomorrow without power and have to go kill and gut a deer to stay alive before you mount a Marvel movie final stand against U.N. tanks. It is much more likely that you'll still be going to work, going to the store, doing typical everyday things, but those trips out to town get a little more sketchy with each passing day. This is why the Glock should be your first priority. You can take it everywhere with you, you can have it handy while you're in the car, if you have a baggy enough shirt you can conceal it even outside of cold months. You can't do that with an AR. If things come to the point where you need to have your AR with you all the time, things have gotten bad enough where leaving the safety of your home should be a last option. But if things do get that bad, you'll be very happy to have something more than a pistol. Obligatory ymmv do your own research

>>22957 For real

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>>22456 >I don't like aiming with my right eye, and I don't like shooting with my left hand. Back in the old days, they would have taken you out to the edge of the village shortly after birth and left you to the wolves.

>>22456 >Cross dominant That sounds like hell