When your entire worldview is based on just accepting things without evidence, on "faith," then you'll be easily lead to do things that go against your actual wishes. Rather than using logic to figure out the best ways to achieve your goals, it makes sense to just have faith that otherwise nonsensical things will just work out in your favor, since that's what your whole life is about anyway. Then you'll act surprised when your life is fucked and you don't move toward your goals as well as you otherwise could. But at least it will all be better in heaven.

religion is just a cover for genetics. all jews are genetically jewish, all muslims are genetically muslim, all buddhists/taoists/hindu/whatever are genetically asian, yeah sure you have these retard converts these days but nobody in the religion they converted to actually considers them part of their tribe, thats not how it works. christianity abandoned this path long ago, to begin with, christianity was never the religion of white people, that was paganism. secondly, christianity got absorbed by the roman empire and the cultures got heavily mixed up, thats why all these LARPer retarded niggers act like crusaders and use knight avatars when in reality that was a different culture altogether. the reason you feel pushed away by christianity (and so does every other christian, except maybe your retarded granny who's too old and lives in her own head) is because christianity no longer has their genetic interests in mind, thats all there is to it. your choices now are either paganism or just drop religion all together.

>>8366 >the only people who end up "supporting" my faith are pagans, atheists, and agnostics I feel that dude. Honestly I was talking to those people that had me look further into apologetics and religion and metaphysics. You have to remember though that church is a state that wants to have as many people in it as possible, and like saint paul did/talked about, you have to embrace the lowest of the low to do it. This is how demagoguery works. Your faith can stand without the church. St Aquinas shows that god can be reasoned and that its true because it is and not on any earthly authority or interpretation. >>8370 Christianity doesn't need genetic interests any more than any other idea. Racism and racial preservation don't and can't be the foundation of all your ideas, it if were you wouldn't preserve anything since the first threat to the race would cut short any further ideological exploration. Imagine if biology was purely racist, would you ever learn how different and to what degree you were to non humans? Christianity fails because its a part of the west and the west failed.

>>8370 >all jews are genetically jewish >ignoring all the goy blood they've stolen through countless ages

>>8370 >Abrahamism and Hinduism care for the homogenity of their host groups Are you retarded? That's only true for Jews and then not even in a good way because they're Jewish if their mothers are Jewish, not their fathers and mothers. So once they get the nigger genes, the nigger genes are appoved of as Jewish. From the start universalistic religions set out to force themselves onto the entire world. Missionaries and crusades are prove of that. They also try to convert everyone who enters the country or help people enter the country in hope of converting them.

Here's the German cover. Just for comparision.

>>8411 >because they're Jewish if their mothers are Jewish, not their fathers and mothers yeah, okay, lets say that rabbi shekelbergs jew daughter marries Tyrone and they have a kid, lets call it Jamal Shekelberg. do you think rabbi shekelberg is going to be all approving and glad that this subhuman is in the family? no, most likely, he'll brush him off and half-assedly invite him for family reunions against his will because of his relation to the daughter, but none of the jews in the shekelberg family will see him as one of them. and the same applies to every other group. your religion has to serve your genetic interests otherwise it will fail, the reason judaism has gotten this far (aside from the fact that they are parasites that leech off the wealth and success of every other successful empire in history) is because by and large they've kept their genes jewish. >So once they get the nigger genes, the nigger genes are appoved of as Jewish. approved by who? again, just because you followed the biblical rules of how to be a jew does not mean that the other jews will accept you as part of their community. as far as they're aware you're just another nigger who infiltrated their place and they want you out of there as soon as possible. they will treat the racemixed child and the nigger husband with absolute disdain wishing they were gone and the daughter had married a jew doctor or lawyer. >missionaries and crusades you have no idea what a Mission is or why the crusades happened. leave your room sometime, oh right, you can't, you live in europe. >>8398 eating baby penises doesn't mean you absorb their genes :^) >>8397 >Christianity doesn't need genetic interests any more than any other idea. yes it does. thats why judaism and islam are still strong and christianity degenerated into communism, conformism, and faggotry. >but muh hinduism the ideology of hinduism is so shit that the only way you'd choose that as your religion is if you were born into it and got used to that being your culture, thats how they keep their genepool clean and arranged marriages. because nobody wants to convert to hinduism or any of the other silly asian religions.

All White men and women of intelligence are better off disregarding religion and using logic to figure out any problem life throws at you. Take from the various holy texts whatever you can get from them and use it for your own purpose.

>>8468 >muh logic That's how things have gotten so bad in the last 500 years, the undermining of the religious element within us and attempting to replace it with rationality.

>>8366 It's almost like Christianity is and always has been a pozzed universalist commie religion and the only thing that made it remotely successful was white people ignoring huge swaths of the doctrine to turn it into a functional base for society or something. It's almost like all of the supposed "successes" of Christianity are actually the successes of white men, who succeed as a group regardless of their faith when not being subjected to hyperglobohomo bullshit. It's almost like you're a fucking retard for believing in a Jewish heresy. >inb4 ur a pagan/atheist

>>8482 >It's almost like Christianity is and always has been a pozzed universalist commie religion You know fuck-all about Christianity.

>>8487 Oh really? Educate me on the nonwhite successes of Christianity you golem nigger fuck.

>>8497 I didn't question "the white successes of Christianity" although I do, I questioned it being a "pozzed universalist commie religion".

Christianity is jewish mind control.

>>8505 How is it Jewish mind control when the Bible looks at the Jews as "the Synagouge of Satan"?

>>8366 It's supposed to be about balance, but the balance is guided by faith, though with the issue of catholicism vs protestantism, the first problem is that there's a disconnect between when you stick by a church and when you abandon it. Do you remain with a church for better or worse, or is there a certain point where you cut your losses and start anew? The same question could be asked about marriage.

>>8507 It's still a spinoff of Judaism. You just only like the old jews and not the new jews. It's the equivalent of people arguing over which Star Wars trilogy is best. It's still all basically the same shit. The Disney ones are Islam.

>>8515 >It's still a spinoff of Judaism. You just only like the old jews and not the new jews. If it's the new Jews that are the problem, I don't see your point.

>>8517 >If it's the new Jews that are the problem Well that's where I disagree with you, then. It isn't just the new ones. They all stem from the same principles, and the differences between new and old are minimal. They just don't believe Jesus was God. I don't think many here would argue that's the only reason they dislike them.

>>8518 > I don't think many here would argue that's the only reason they dislike them. Then you don't actually talk to much Christians, as there's too many to make a statement like that with any accuracy.

>>8519 I said "many here," not "many christians."

OP needs to figure out which churches are legitimate and which churches are ran by Babylon

>>8522 I know what you meant.

>>8515 Modern Jews are edomites how hard is this to understand. Heck the bible even gives you a clear verse to prove it. An end time prophecy about the edomites, The septuagint which is actually the more accurate translation the dead sea scrolls were closer to the septuagint than the masoretic. In Ezekiel 36:5 it states "therefore, thus saith the Lord; Verily in the fire of my wrath have I spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Idumea, because they have appropriated my land to themselves for a possession with joy, disregarding the lives [of the inhabitants], to destroy [it] by plunder: " The septuagint is the lxx bible and can be found here. https://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/septuagint/chapter.asp?book=48&page=36

>>8507 Christianity stems from pagan religions being forcefully converted and dashed and then forming their own religion from the pieces after intermittent periods of rebellion/revolution. It’s a Frankenstein religion essentially that has been changed over and over, which is not unlike Judaism but in their case they constantly change doctrine to suit them in the now.

>>8533 I don't care about any of that. Jews were plenty fucked up in the Old Testament, and Christians are supposed to like those Jews.

>>8538 You do know that God punished them specifically for that reason right? Also you really should care, If the entire world knew the Jew's true Identity then the shitstorm that would ensue would probably be the complete end of Jewry after all that's what their entire deception is based around. >>8537 No it really isn't hebrewism and Judaism aren't the same in the slightest. Judaism follows the talmud, While hebrewism follows the legitimate old testament. Also most pagans willingly converted to christianity of their own will, Only a couple were forcefully converted.

>>8366 The Church is its own cultural freakshow that may or may not have anything to do with Jesus' teachings. Basically churches are like imageboards. All mods are fags, but the right kind of mods can shut down shills and shitposters enough for the effortposters to be a positive influence. If your board is cancer or gets raided, you might have to jump to another one until the mods get replaced. There's no concrete definition of good board culture - by their fruits ye shall know them. >(Ironically) the only people who end up "supporting" my faith are pagans, atheists, and agnostics. Some "atheists" are closer to the truth than your average Christian. They're not just some drone singing along to Hillsong hymns. They know there's a higher purpose and they know the Church isn't getting to it. But they already drank the Kool-Aid. They think they can't be a Christian without believing in all the supernatural BS as well. >Well ackshually virgin birth and resurrection don't exist, so we can just ignore the Sermon on the Mount, checkmate christfags >>8367 >>8482 >>8497 >>8515 >>8518 >>8522 >>8538 Hey mamzer, your application to Camp Sacajawea got rejected. I'm sure it's nothing personal. They probably just didn't have room for more campers. Keep posting and maybe you'll have better luck next year! >>8533 (((Pilpulism))) >>8370 >>8411 (((Racism))) is not a recipe for a functioning society. It works if you are a parasite whose MO is to steal shit and dole it out to the biggest suck-ups and brown-nosers. Once the cookie jar is empty, then the purity spiral begins. Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior.

>>8366 Because cianiggers operation mockingbird also included infiltration of churches. Why do you think they wanted churches shut down but not bars? A good revolution will foment in churches dingus.

>>8542 >You do know that God punished them specifically for that reason right? I don't mean they went against God, I mean their God told them to do it and it's canon, and it's the God Christians and Muslims follow too. Christians and Muslims are all just types of Jews, the same as how Mormons are still a type of Christian. There are plenty of things that the Jewish God says to do which are fucked up, but Jews, Christians, and Muslims all agree with it, because Christians and Muslims still worship the Jewish God. >Also you really should care, If the entire world knew the Jew's true Identity then the shitstorm that would ensue would probably be the complete end of Jewry after all that's what their entire deception is based around. You think jews or normalfags would care? Those who don't like them will keep not liking them. Those who do like them will keep liking them. Only perhaps a tiny fraction of evangelical christians would care, and it wouldn't be enough to matter. >>>8557 >They think they can't be a Christian without believing in all the supernatural BS as well. Is it even a religion if you don't have the supernatural BS? Is it not just a philosophy at that point?

>>8557 >>8566 Supernatural BS can mean different things. Like how noah's ark isn't possible, the story wasn't so you could build an ark. Its because its not possible that its a miracle, its not supposed to happen. Miracles, aside from being illustrative ways to describe a person or idea, are also claims that those ideas are ultimate. If you were to ignore miracles and look at a religion as just some ideas some guys came up with then they lose all their weight, they become subjective and tangible and you end up with a vague idea of being good because jesus is a nice guy as opposed to key absolutes to understanding and getting closer to god. >They think they can't be a Christian without believing in all the supernatural BS as well. If having an ultimate all knowing is supernatural bs then you are an atheist, even if you think all of jesus' ideas were cool.

>>8557 >(((Racism))) is not a recipe for a functioning society. Then what was Germany between 1933 and 1939 if not a functioning society? The red army was already preparing to roll over Europe. Hitler did the right thing. He armed up and got them unprepared in an preemptive strike. Even winner side history isn't denying that. What did the fucking Brits and French do? They declared us war. That's what happened. We need to stick together as Germanics against the other folks of the world. Christianity won't help us because of it's history in destroying our connection to our roots (Runes, the old gods, killing our women and druids in witch hunts, enslaving us because muh pope is flesh of jesus and rulers from god) because it's a foreign desert religion with values that go against our Germanic nature and our fighting spirit. (Jesus forgave the Jews. Old testament is judaic and we reject it. Universalism is a cancer upon us and will lead to the decline of the owner of the belief. We ourselves are more valuable than others. We are not Christians. We are Germanics. Crusades did not serve us but the wealth of the Vatican.)

>>8542 >Also most pagans willingly converted to christianity of their own will, Only a couple were forcefully converted. Bullshit. After the rulers became Christian, they went around doing their baptism or beheading thing. We still have folk songs telling the tale. Christians just lie themselves noble like they always do.

>>8607 > they went around doing their baptism or beheading thing You mean during the Dark Ages where Mudslimes ruled half of Europe, until the Christians finally chased them out just in time for the Renaissance to occur blame everything that happened as a result "Christian ignorance"?

>>8366 >Why does the Christian church feel like it's own worst enemy? Because it is? >no talk about the events of Revelation that are verrrrrry close, now >being accepting of gay marriage instead of fighting it tooth and nail >not acknowledging that there is a clear and present danger from jews and muslims >grubbing for money and then spending it on heathens who think pissing in the water supply is a great way to spend a few minutes I'm a Christian, and I have absolute faith in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but I have zero faith in churches and self-appointed spokesmen. It makes me sad, but, as the Beast rears its heads more and more each day, the solution will be secret home churches for the faithful. We're going to have to become an underground cult again until Jesus returns.

>>8367 > accepting things without evidence, on "faith," > achieve your goals > lead to do things that go against your actual wishes No, the point of faith is not accepting things things without evidence and it is especially not about fulfilling your own whishes. Faith is about faithfully pursuing the goals of your master and denying yourself while trusting in Him to provide, that's why it's called faith and not just belief. Every "Christian" who is just in it for selfish gains has not understood much. If you don't want to deny yourself, you shouldn't become a christian. That doesn't mean Christians will have a miserable life (unless they face persecution), actually applying wisdom as taught by God will in general tend to make one's life better.

>>8566 Firstly you haven't really even provided an example of anything they did wrong. But onto the more important question >You think jews or normalfags would care? They're not the ones you're targeting, You're targeting the evangelicals, Remember these are the people that entirely support Israel for 1 reason and 1 reason alone, Because they believe them to be God's chosen people, You expose that and you can feasibly drown out a major lifeline in their system. Evangelicals believe that since they are supporting Israel they'll be saved when in reality it's actually the opposite. 2 John really drives this home, Pretty much anyone who is anti christian is considered an enemy, Similar to how Europeans should consider everyone who is anti European an enemy. The evangelicals only support Jewry because they believe they'll get into heaven for doing so, It's the blind spot which everyone ignores. I mean there's no harm in trying is there? >>8606 People need to understand the difference between racism and supremacy, Racism is pretty much putting the interests of Your own people above the interest of other people groups, This is natural and the other people groups should be doing the same thing, We also don't have to hate everyone else in order to do this, A major thing I've noticed over the past couple of years is this attempt to force a black and white type of situation where one thing is ultimately good and another is evil, The world isn't as simplistic as that, There's a point where you shouldn't cross the line. The real issue is figuring out where the line is supposed to be.

>>8623 >where Mudslimes ruled half of Europe >half of Europe >Spain and the middle east They were never anywhere near Germany. Christians even made child crusades and some of them were simply sold into slavery instead of going to Jerusalem. https://en.wikipedia(Please use archive.today)/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade >>8637 >The real issue is figuring out where the line is supposed to be. There is no line. If niggers die, it's not our problem. Just like they don't care about us. You think a nigger will give a shit if someone of their race steps over a line? He'll just say: It was this nigga, I didn't do nuffin. >where one thing is ultimately good and another is evil I agree that we don't have to fight them as it's pointless but I think the political dualism is a way bigger problem. If you tell any liberal that you don't like what they preach, they'll think you'll like the koshervatives and pretend those jewish koshervatives are total beer nazis who want to kill foreigners and jews. Everyone has been turned into a retard by TV.

>>8623 >Dark Ages where Mudslimes ruled half of Europe Byzantium was still a major power during the dark ages and kept the Mohammedans out in the east. That only changed during the High Middle Ages, long after the Dark Ages. The Mohammedans only held Iberia, safely separated from the rest of Europe by giant mountains. Hardly a relevant threat to anyone. >>8366 Because it's been its own worst enemy since a couple days after Jesus died. If you look into the older bible texts, apocrypha and such, it becomes quite clear that he was a master of some Hermetic school (in the wider sense) and what he passed on to his followers was much the same, trying to uplift them to his own status. After his death, Peter went on to rejig that entire thing to be a vehicle for his personal power. The gnostics were probably the closest to Christ's actual teachings, but they're dead and buried thanks to the rest of the "Christians". Some elements carried over with the catholic clergy, at least until the reformation when even the core of that was lost. The orthodox are likely the most spiritually alive Christians operating today, but it's hard to say due to lack of exposure on my part. As it is, if you wish to follow Christ's path, study the teachings of Hermes.

>>8640 >Because it's been its own worst enemy since a couple days after Jesus died. Come on. We know that all Abrahamic religions are younger than their messiahs. Judaism was written down in the third century. The years aren't even numbered after the birth of Jesus who was born 4 to 7 years before himself but some roman festival.

>>8634 Being a national socialist/nationalist is directly opposed to christianity. What you are doing is globalism and spreading that jewish shit to every country on earth is just globalism. You are exporting jewish morality/culture to other cultures who dont want it.

Christianity is anti-White, it's that simple.

>>8566 >I mean their God told them to do it and it's canon, and it's the God Christians and Muslims follow too. No, it's not. First of all, Mudslimes worship Allah, the Arabian moon. Second, the Kikes "worship" both the devil and god, while also being "above" god as they believe that they can trick god and have Talmudic scriptures talking about how God referred to the Kikes for help. >Christians and Muslims are all just types of Jews, the same as how Mormons are still a type of Christian. Mormons are not Christians. It's a complete rewrite of the Christian religion (In particular, that the trinity is dead and that we can become god-like aliens), similar how Judaism is a complete rewrite of the Hebrew religion (Where they condemned Christ to Hell and replace all the old teachings withthe philosophy of the pharisees). >>8635 There's also the problem that you have the churches pushing the concept of "faith" to the point of it being blind faith. Where's all your suppose to do is pray to and believe in god, prostrate yourself before every meal, let "god" handle all of life's problems, and do absolutely nothing. In practice, it's like the Hindu/Buddhist concept of staring at your navel all day while "mediating", with the theory being that you'll eventually achieve enlightenment through this process and everything in life will become "clear". In execution, it DOES make the Christians no different than the Muslims because, in Islam, to declare that the concept of "Cause and effect" exists is outright blasphemy because it then implies that the events of the world may not be "Allah's will". However, in Christianity, this is not the case, if you referred to Job and the parable of the talents. In the former, Job gets taught the lesson that not everything in the world happens because of how "religious/faithful" you are, or as a result of an "act of God"; shit just happens. Meanwhile, in the latter, the servant who sat on his one talent during the decade his master was absent, believing that he would be "rewarded" for protecting the talent "SO carefully", had his talent stripped from him and given to the man who had 20 (Who started with 10) due to his arrogance and dependence upon someone else. >>8655 >First paragraph That isn't what that portion of Corinthians states or implies at all. You can even read it here: https://archive.vn/3OUUn If you want it paraphrased, it comes right off of a passage condemning the Jews for their idleness and the Greeks for their intellectualism, where the former demands a sign from god and refuse to act upon their own judgement and person, meanwhile the latter considers themselves to be "so 'intelligent'" that to ask for them to doubt that intelligence and explore other avenues is equivalent to heresy because they are "intelligent by nature" (Remember that the word "barbarian" is a derogatory Greek word that that refers to ALL non-Greek people being "unintelligent" and saying nothing but "bar bar bar" all day). >It forces all true diversity into the same mold, not realizing that different races, different cultures and different types of people all have differing spiritual feelings and inclinations. Then, why did Babylon, later Persia, then Macedon, followed by Rome all seem so dependent upon forcing the world to be come "one society"? Even Ancient China, the farthest you could get from Abrahamic religion and thinking because of the mountains dividing the Middle East from the rest of Asia, was determined to unite the entire continent. >Christianity and Abrahamism at large make the relationship to the divine purely individual. One make's one's own salvation. The campaigns of Cyrus the Great directly disputes this being an exclusively Abrahamic trait, as part of what is attributed as Cyrus' key to success was his faithfulness towards practicing his Zoroastrian faith (The religion of the original Aryans). Also, that section doesn't tell people to "hate" their parents or relatives. It's talking about how people will be persecuted and become divided because of what Christ teaches (Kind of contradictory towards previously talking about how "Christianity is universal in scope", don't you think): https://archive.vn/i4OA8 >Christianity devalues the world As I already said, Job disputes this. >The soul of the world is divine, all creation comes from exclusively from nature and the world. AND I just realized that I wasted my time. NOT disagreeing with a post criticizing Christianity, but a post PROMOTING some cross between Druidism and Buddhism.

>>8656 >PROMOTING some cross between Druidism and Buddhism. neither is mentioned in the screenshot. It promotes heathendom/paganism, our pre-Christian values, rites and traditions.

>>8661 >our pre-Christian values, rites and traditions Of killing each other in the name of sport? Of leveling cities because we hate the inhabitants because...reasons? Of sacrificing entire sects of the populace in the name of pleasing the gods?

>>8662 Most of this shit is purely made up. Read what Tacticus wrote about the Germans.

It's like with this "in the medival days they only had bread to eat all their lives" bullshit. If that was the case, they'd all be dead and we would have never been born.

>>8663 >Most of this shit is purely made up <The Olympic games practiced by the Greeks was infamous for them resulting in the death of (At least) one of the contestants because they believed it was dishonorable towards Zeus to admit defeat <The Carthaginians sacrificed entire sections of the aristocratic population to please their gods <Rome destroyed Carthage because the Carthaginians rebuilt their society "to fast" despite adhering to all of the reparations that the Romans demanded None of that shit was ever made up.

>>8662 >Of leveling cities NOW YOU MADE A BIG MISTAKE The current hypothesis of archology is that there were no Germanic cities. All cities were Roman.

>>8665 >Italians >Greeks >Phoenicians How do any of these examples relate to the so called pagan cultures of Germanics and Celts?

>>8656 >First of all, Mudslimes worship Allah, the Arabian moon. Tell them that. But oh wait, you can read their minds and know they believe things they don't even say between each other and is not written in their holy books. Allah is a translated name. You might as well tell me that Zeus and Jupiter are different characters. You might as well tell me that Trunks from Dragon Ball Z is a different character than Torankusu from Doragon Baru Zetto. Same goes for your thing about jews. You're trying hard to justify the fact that you've been so utterly conquered by their religion that you now worship a subset of it. But it's beside the point, because even if I accepted your claims, does that mean that you'd like them if only they followed the main books they claim to follow? I wouldn't. Those books are still full of their God, or sorry, your God that they only pretend to worship, telling Jews, who are your protagonists and spiritual predecessors, to do all sorts of horrendous (not to mention nonsensical) shit. If anything, it becomes even more cucked once Jesus came around to retcon a bunch of shit like some sort of cuckold Anti-Monitor. Now all sins can be forgiven, unless you talk shit about him, because he's an insecure little bitch like that. Murder is fine as long as you're sorry, but you better not talk shit about Jesus. No amount of apologies could make up for that. But somehow we're still supposed to think he's the best guy ever. But of course, he's only keeping up the tradition of his dad, I mean him, being an insecure little bitch who tells his most ardent follower to kill his own son just because he wanted to test to see if he'd do it, because he's an insecure little bitch. Your god is a faggot whose Kryptonite is Iron Chariots. Your lore is laughable and makes capeshit look coherent.

>>8652 >You are exporting jewish morality/culture to other cultures who dont want it. If you think Christians follow JEW morality, you haven't been paying attention. The only ones I've met who do that are the televangelist-wannabe types who further their glory instead of the Lord's. As for other cultures, no one's forcing them to listen... anymore. Personally, given my way, I'd pull all our missionaries out of the rape-ape areas, but it's not my call to make. >>8663 >Read what Tacticus wrote about the Germans. Tacticus, being a historical character from the Discworld novels, wrote absolutely nothing about the Germans. Tacitus, however, said "The Germans themselves I should regard as aboriginal, and not mixed at all with other races through immigration or intercourse." And, until the jews finally won WWII, they managed to maintain that.

>>8704 You don't follow jew morality, jews have a master morality that serves them. You follow a slave morality that benefits jews as evidenced by the entire fucking existence and history of your faith. You aren't a kike, you're a kike-enabler.

>>8623 >where Mudslimes ruled half of Europe Which is interesting considering they did not reach any further than the Mediterrannean. So any action taken up north is irrelevant when it comes to muslim activity. >for the Renaissance to occur blame everything that happened as a result "Christian ignorance"? The Dark Ages were a Renaissance meme created by the Church itself. It was a meme that was simply coopted by atheists after Christians taught it to them. The ages were "dark" because there were fuck-all texts written in Latin or Latin script, making it a giant void in the perception of the Church in terms of history. That the Dark Ages were a result of Christian ignorance is very much true, just that it is a lot different from what fedora-tippers think it was. And even today you see Christians continue this retarded meme, with them claiming that nobody knew how to read in the Dark Ages because "well, only the church taught people to read and write, the peasantry didnt know how to" without a single shred of irony. So I shed no tears over the Church having its own memes backfire on it.

>>8500 No one cares if you think it is or isn't. It's already in your gay book and every faggot denomination. No one gives a fuck what you think, jackass. Everyone already knows Paganism is the real religion of Whites. You lost. It's over.

>>8366 The main issue with Christianity is that Christianity like the other Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Islam) is self-contradicting and discourages critical thinking and denial of your true self anyway. The three Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) has and always will be the religions of power hungry jackasses that seek to destroy anything and anyone that doesn't conform to it. In Judaism, if you believe in the stories of the Old Testament (The Tanakh) to be true; Yahweh commanded the Isrealites to commit genocide, take the young virgin women and girls for themselves and force them to be married to you, and stone anyone who dares question the Jewish faith to death and similar practices are found in Christianity and Islam anyway. In Christianity, to its credit the most positive character of the whole Bible is Jesus of Nazareth where he preached that people can be redeemed, don't be a judgemental jackass, and helping those in need which are values that I'm sure anyone can accept are good things. However, the rest of the New Testament is filled with things where authors such 'Paul the Apostle' twist the words of Jesus to justify certain things such as being judgemental to the sinners and even agreeing with some Old Testament values such as sentencing your kids to death if they don't obey you. The Christian doctrine preaches that God loves everyone and yet God is perfectly okay with these types of things by the way. Finally there is Islam and what's there to say about it? If you know the stupid story, one day this old guy named 'Muhammad' develops schizophrenia and claims that he saw the Angel Gabriel talking to him that Allah (God) wants him to spread the word of Allah. So Muhammad and his friends go on the world's first Jihad where just like the Israelites and the Christians before them, they basically commit genocide and destroy the pagan cultures around them that didn't wanted to conform to the cult of Allah. Also, Muhammad married a six year old and has sex with her when she became nine years old and Allah is perfectly okay with this then. There's also how Muhammad preached violence and harm to others that didn't want to convert to Islam despite it being the "Religion of Peace" anyway. The Abrahamic faiths are pure bullshit at this point anyway. You're honestly far better off becoming a pagan, a Buddhist, or atheist/agnostic at this point then.

>>8642 >The years aren't even numbered after the birth of Jesus who was born 4 to 7 years before himself They *are* numbered after Jesus' birth. It's just that the monk who came up with the AD thing lived around 500 and made a few miscalculations. Look up Dionysius Exiguus for the details. >but some roman festival. No, that's the Solstice/Christmas thing. That's from the early 4th century, when they thought that it would be really neat to celebrate Jesus' birth (something that the earlier Christians didn't even care about all that much) on the winter solstice.

>>9003 >the rest of the New Testament is filled with things where authors such 'Paul the Apostle' twist the words of Jesus to justify certain things Interesting theory: what if the Bible was not meant to be literal, but a satirical cautionary tale of how the Word of God can be twisted by charlatans to manipulate the masses?

>>8366 >Why does being a cuck feels like being your own worst enemy?

>>8366 Because they are either fanatical assholes, TV level faggots, or the catholic church. >>8370 yeah because almost everyone on southamerica werent catholic at certain point all the while we pushed all the genes we could find in the main pool even jew, goyin, yellow and whatever westerm australians are.

>>9009 fucking this the bible is like a skitzo babble with a few truths hidden in tons of shit its obvious to a child that the bible is false and kiked its a big joke god would take a big fat wack tabular shit on the fucking bible

>>9009 Not really meant as a parody, just that he has twisted the words for his own cause. Such as trying to add teachers of the faith that are superior to their bretheren when in reality people are meant to be brothers, meaning not to have a figure holier than them that has special powers exclusively devoted to those holy men. Effectively a conflict regarding hierarchy and decentralisation.

>>8366 >Why does the Christian church feel like it's own worst enemy? Because most have been infiltrated by cia's operation mockingbird dumbass. It isn't just for media, it also specifically targeted churches.

>>10919 >CIA Well, among other things

>>8656 >Then, why did Babylon, later Persia, then Macedon, followed by Rome all seem so dependent upon forcing the world to be come "one society"? Even Ancient China, the farthest you could get from Abrahamic religion and thinking because of the mountains dividing the Middle East from the rest of Asia, was determined to unite the entire continent. obviously we need /hist or /history. where is it.........

>>8635 >Faith is about faithfully pursuing the goals of your master and denying yourself while trusting in Him to provide, that's why it's called faith and not just belief. >Faith is about faithfully >Faith is about faith You're using the word to define itself. You also then use several variations of the same word, like trust. You believe it without evidence. Faithfully is just doing something while believing without evidence.

Christianity is inherently philosemitic, both in theory and practice. If anyone disagrees, please think on this question: why were Jews literally the only religious minority suffered to exist in Christendom? Pagans of all stripes, over thousands of years and across virtually every corner of the globe, were forcibly converted or killed with great zeal. Often at great expense, as in the Northern Crusades. Muslims were forcibly converted or killed as well. Even dissident Christians (Cathars, Arians, etc.) were exterminated either in belief and/or body or at the very least ended up at war with other Christian institutions as happened in the various Wars of Religion in Europe. And yet the Jews remain. Why? It's simple: Jews are a protected class because the foundation of Christianity is Judaism. Sure, the Jews were expelled and there were pogroms and the like in Christendom but the fact that they even exist at all is all the proof needed. The greatest persecutions of Jews in either myth or history were 'ALL at the hands of pagan or secular organizations. The Romans, who killed millions of Jews and scattered them to the winds for almost nineteen hundred years were pagans. The Egyptians, who held the Jews in captivity, were pagans. The Babylonians, who also conquered and enslaved the Jews, were pagans. The various other groups that the Jews warred with in the Levant were all pagans. The NSDAP, who inflicted the greatest injury on world Jewry since the Romans, were secular at most. Nowhere in these actual persecutions are Christians found, except when sheltering Jews - as they did in Germany in the 1930s and 40s. Jews have a great fear of a western shift away from the Abrahamic weltanschauung because it forms their safety net. They would even prefer Islam, as Islam (as a fellow Abrahamic faith) suffers them to exist so long as they pay their tax for doing so. Ditch the Christian weltanschauung, free your mind from the semitic shackles that bind it.

>>8370 If Christianity is white genetically then how come the first Christians where jews than Arabs then meds then northern Europeans? If Christianity truly was the Aryan spirt it would have to be completely created by Aryan people from the ground up which is not the case. >>8468 I think its the other way around. Religion is good for the low iq who can't determine what is good or bad through logic. >>8487 >all men are created equal >all christians are your brothers or sisters in christ >all people are created equal >all workers are united in communism

>>24326 There's plenty of ways to poke at christianity but your first point there is garbage. There were far FAR more places with white ancestry from the protoindoeuropean days through all those places. Or you are really going to tell me the people who live in pic related and used to break walls and statues to "get treasure" are the same people who made it ages ago?

>>24332 So was Jesus not a jew? Fair skin does not mean western European. Are all brown people in the world the same because they are dark skinned? of course not. Even if you want to assume they are basically western European that doesn't mean they made up the majority of the middle east. I think ancient middle eastern people did make that. Didn't the Christians start busting pagan statues? Yes. Middle eastern civilization is on par with china and has only recently completely collapsed due to foreign meddling by cia niggers. The middle east was still going as strong as china 100 years ago and china wasn't white either. Carving stone is a lot easier than building industrial machinery.

They're desperate for attendance from younger generations so they're getting soft on their morals, even accepting gays openly It's pretty sad

>>8482 >It's almost like Christianity is and always has been a pozzed universalist commie religion and the only thing that made it remotely successful was white people ignoring huge swaths of the doctrine to turn it into a functional base for society or something. >It's almost like all of the supposed "successes" of Christianity are actually the successes of white men, who succeed as a group regardless of their faith when not being subjected to hyperglobohomo bullshit. It's almost like you're a fucking retard for believing in a Jewish heresy. hurr durr you sound like the mainstream liberal media making everything about race, you are as badd as Phareesaic Jews who only care about bloodline and are super racial supremacists. While I do believe races should not racemix as a rule, believing that your race is somehow more important than belief in Christ is absurd.

When you say the "Church", you're not being correct. Heresies and heterodox might claim Christ, and perhaps they're sincere, but they're misguided. The Body of Christ cannot be divided. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. If you pit a bunch of misguided people against each other, then of course you're going to find errors. I myself struggled with the same issue you did, until I found the Eastern Orthodox Church. It was very sobering to have a priest love me, but also reprimand me. To deny me at steps. To truly make requirements. It was here I realized the misguided nature of "Faith Alone" Protestantism. How can you have faith if you do not act on that faith? If the Holy Spirit does not guide you? I'll pray for you anon. I would highly recommend you stop into an Orthodox Church. Humble yourself as a child and simply watch and learn. It could be a little daunting for a Sunday Service (the Divine Liturgy), but the Orthodox regularly has services throughout the week. Saturday Vespers is always a good starting point. Fewer people, there is likely time to talk with a priest or deacon afterward, and it let's you get a toe in.

>>8366 because they are planning for a reality post the current one so none of their actions have any real benefit to their current self, at best that ideology is neutral and at worst it's self destructive

>>24450 >making everything about race

>>24681 >because they are planning for a reality post the current one so none of their actions have any real benefit to their current self, at best that ideology is neutral and at worst it's self destructive Christianity is a fundamentally anti-life because they believe that our time in this world is immeasurably brief compared to eternity to follow; why should anyone care about this world more than they have to when its purpose is basically to serve as an audition to the afterlife? In fact, that's even dangerous as far as they're concerned because getting caught up in transient affairs can jeopardize your entry to the afterlife. But that's just the theology. It becomes, much, much more destructive when its adherents decide that ACHKSHUALLY the best way to earn brownie points in life is to make sure that others also worship YHWH.

>>27182 >why should anyone care about this world more than they have to when its purpose is basically to serve as an audition to the afterlife I feel like this statement answered it's own question. If life is an "audition" for the afterlife, then you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife. And while people like to strawman that all you need to do is "have faith" in Christ, they forget the second part of that phrase being to love your neighbor as you do yourself, on top of ignore many of Christ's teachings like the parable of the talents.

>>8366 Christianity is a slave religion since it conception. >you are a sinful piece of shit while alive from birth but will find redemption after obeying your master and following the commands Europe was fucked until the age of enlightenment when Christianity was pushed back. If God loves Christians why did he let Muslims occupy Christian lands and enslave Christian people for centuries? But according your flag you were indoctrinated from childhood. Just one hint: The reason Protestant split from Catholics is the huge wealth Catholics amassed. Same as muttland megachurches with pastors with private jets.

>>27373 >Europe was fucked until the age of enlightenment when Christianity was pushed back. You mean when Islam was finally pushed back, and people could finally begin re-assessing the knowledge that was only preserved during the times of war because of the church? >If God loves Christians why did he let Muslims occupy Christian lands and enslave Christian people for centuries? You could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity. Such as manty of the Grecian gods, who actually were divine and loved humanity before Ovid rewrote many of the myths.

>>27405 >ou could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity My point as >>27405 >the knowledge that was only preserved during the times of war because of the church? Lmao Renaissance happen only because the Church burned all Roman and Greek books and the fall of Constantinople made a reassurance of classical teaching. >You could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity My point is that religion is just a human cope with their shitty condition. There is a reason why 1st world countries with high standards in living are far less religious than 3rd world countries. And yes I imply that USA is 3rd world tier in standards in living since your government dissolved the ministry of education and now aims for universities. Yeah every successful government focused on the center teachings.

>>27421 Your commie godless shitholes are poor and do not value demographics or democracy. Get fucked retard. First world evidently means scat sex is normalized as vanilla sex in your book.

>>24681 >>27346 >I feel like this statement answered it's own question. If life is an "audition" for the afterlife, then you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife. And your objection was covered by "immeasurably brief compared to eternity to follow". If you have a view of the world which roots your post-mortem future in your mortal legacy as opposed to your immortal future then life and posterity is what matters as opposed to earning enough good boy points to get into heaven with everything else being secondary.

>>27421 >Renaissance happen only because the Church burned all Roman and Greek books [Citation fucking needed] >My point is that religion is just a human cope with their shitty condition What about vices like sex, drugs, and alchohol? >There is a reason why 1st world countries with high standards in living are far less religious than 3rd world countries No, they're equally religious, considering how the entire POINT of the United Nations, a project created by first-world nations, exists solely for th epurpose of creating a global religion. >And yes I imply that USA is 3rd world tier in standards in living since your government dissolved the ministry of education and now aims for universities. What? >>27452 >as opposed to earning enough good boy points to get into heaven All you "need" to get into heaven is having, as Christ put it, a "faith the size of a mustard seed." You're mixing up Christianity with Hinduism, where the goal of that religion IS to earn enough literal karma points for the purposes of becoming one with God.

>>27474 >All you "need" to get into heaven is having, as Christ put it, a "faith the size of a mustard seed." Then what was all that about "you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife"? Please pick a lane.

>>27526 >Then what was all that about "you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife" Because the question inevitably comes up of WHY you're doing your actions in the first place. In fact, that's the entire point of Job, where it directly addresses the fact that there's more to life and faith than just following God and being "rewarded" for it. That's on top of the fact that the entire fucking book is one instance after another showing that people who followed God were NOT that "rewarded greatly" for their faith. Yes, there were instances of them receiving favors, but it was not all the time. In fact, there were dozens of times where they were demanded to give up their "rewards". And coming into the New Testament, much of the content is more concerned with living a fruitfull life that manages to enrich the lives of others. So it really comes down to what type of faith that you have. And perhaps the biggest irony is that the Mudslimes actually inhabit both extremes in an absolutely heretical manner. Where some are so passive that you cannot question anything because "god wills it", but then others would wipe out all life on the planet without hesitation for the purposes of cleansing it of all non-halal elements. But that's also tends to be the final result when you intentionally mistranslate Christian texts and make a Kike your messiah: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CBT3VNH4DQw

>>8366 The institutions of worship has been infiltrated by jews/demons/money hungry sociopaths. This has lead to the degeneration of pastors and leaders to the point they try to pervert the scripture and it's teachings. I mean we literally have governments openly talking about how they are spending tax dollars to pervert the churches. There were even Whole CIA operations about it. So now the (((church))) Is simply another tool for them to destroy Christianity.

>>8366 >why does the christian church feel like its own worst enemy? I can't speak for every one, but a lot of catholic churches, even trad ones with latin mass, care more about their numbers at the end of the day than they do attracting and maintaining the best and finest in their communities. Women and 3rd worlders love it since they get back pats for having enough of a brain to say christ is king, but anyone with foresight who can see that this kind of system is not sustainable isn't as welcome.I don't know why these churches insist on playing the numbers game since nobody denies that Islam has had them beat in that category for decades

>>8366 Because jews took control. The church is anti-Christian by design, it is co-opted like religion was back when jews decided to praise demons instead of the Lord.

>>8366 After the abuse of numerous children. They became anathema to the sensibilities of average human beings. With leadership going unpunished for the ultimate sin, the desecration and abandonment of children, the common people turned against them. Draining them of all their earthly power. Now, with the playing field leveled, they fall flat under the jurisdiction and laws of men. There will be a retribution.

>>8366 The devil takes over churches and makes them ineffective. Just like bbc spammers take over imageboards and make them ineffective which is also the work of the devil. Folk-religion Protestant and Catholic and Orthodox churches don't have the Holy Spirit, not that I can tell. They fit in with the world too much. The pastors and priests tell lies from the pulpit to the sleeping masses who go there out of family and social obligations. Like when Israel said, "give us a king," society has church to have a visible person in charge of the spiritual. The same people who get all flustered about the vaccines and say, "I never went to medical school, I don't have a degree, I go with what the doctor says to do" also defer to the pastor of a stuffy church that smells like old people and doesn't open the windows for fresh air for spiritual advice. It's a deflection of responsibility. It's possible for God Himself to be King over a people, but not these people. They will have to go somewhere else.

>>27474 30 And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? 31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: 32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Faith AS a mustard seed. Faith of the same type as a seed that is small, but can become a tree larger than the other herbs. Not a "tiny bit" of faith, but faith whose storyline is similar to the small seed becoming a big tree eventually. You have to have the real deal faith. The one that has the bona fide potential to go from a tiny seed to a tree. The faith of the kingdom looks small and insignificant to this world. Snarkers see it as delusion. They put their faith in Lima Beans or Peanuts because they are bigger seeds. They didn't choose the lesser of two weevils. Snarkers call it delusion, but it is real, as real as the tiny seed that can grow into a tree. The scoffers think (or act like they think) it's a grain of sand with no genetics to be able to make it grow into a tree. The churches full of grains of sand pretending to be mustard seeds embolden them. When a real mustard seed comes along, they fancy it as another grain of sand playing pretend. But for the actual mustard seed, the DNA is there, all packed into that insignificant little seed. The Kingdom of God is smaller than all the __ (political parties, religions, organizations, clubs) that be in the earth when it is sown.

>>8367 >When your entire worldview is based on just accepting things without evidence, on "faith," then you'll be easily lead to do things that go against your actual wishes Faith is for NPCs. Why accept "faith" when knowledge itself exists?

>>8557 >muh sermon on the mount >calls people "mamzer" which is specifically a Jewish insult I've got your nose, faggot

>>8366 Christianity is a branch of Jewish mysticism mixed with Gnostic and Platonic concepts. It's confusing and self-contradictory by design. Its only value is that it inspires fanaticism, and this fanaticism can be harnessed by more or less any political movement

>>36474 >Why accept "faith" when knowledge itself exists?

>>29170 the crusades weren't anti Christian, they were a response to a literal huge expansionism of islamic empires combined with those empires/khalifates etc killing or extortioning pilligrims trying to visit Jesus cruxifiction place.

>>37631 Not watching your 3 minute jewish sitcom clip. I wasn't even talking about "science" but literal direct observation Christianity says >just BELIEVE (without evidence) and you WIN >anyone who believes in Jesus gets an eternity in paradise This truly is NPC tier shit that destroys the world <nothing really matters, I've already won

>>38268 >Not watching your 3 minute jewish sitcom clip Is anime more your speed then?

>>37631 >Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Paul's definition of faith. He said it is substance and evidence. Much different from "you just have to believe." It is evidence. I wasn't really paying attention to the conversation, just wanted to add that.

If all the Christians banded together and fought back against their pedophile priests instead of coddling them, the world would not be so against the Roman Catholics. The Vatican is Satan's Synagogue. They're not on your side.

>>38364 I'm not an atheist materialist that venerates scientists as the new priest caste. I'm simply saying that to believe in anything without evidence is bad. Illusions are bad and typically lead to dark places, just as the last 2000 years of Christianity have led the world to the pit of hell The Spaniard here >>24284 is utterly correct >>38591 The thief that was crucified next to Jesus was admitted into heaven (according to Jesus) for blind belief alone. Also <"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

>>38692 How do you know the thief had blind belief? Jesus preached did miracles. Thief would have known about Isaiah 53 if he went to synagogue. >Uses John 3 Read the rest of it.

>>8397 >the first threat to the race would cut short any further ideological exploration Why do that's to your eace need to be ideologically explored? That sounds stupid and of anything we have too much of this disease going around as it is.

>>8515 >It's still a spinoff of Judaism. >spinoff "Christian" label use started around 33AD Judaism started around 800AD when king Bulan converted his pagan tribe in Khazaria (modern Ukraine) to then dead religion of the Scribes and Pharisees >spinoff 4cuck called and wants it's shills, that's ((((you))) back, faggot.

>>8366 I find it very funny that you think the christian church in the United States of America does not support racial preservation, because thats all it is now. Christian churches do nothing but promote white culture at its lowest common demoninator. By that I mean that the Christian church is controlled by white trash. To be part of the christian church in America you have to submit to respecting white people, despite the fact that they are lazy good-for-nothings who expect respect that they dont earn. You have to give up control of your life and allow the worst kind of people to control your life in order to be accepted as part of this white trash tribe. Tribalism is pushed at every opportunity, you have to make every white trash person in your church feel important. Never mind the fact that the pastor of your church has preferred pronouns and that tranny children are part of what needs to be accepted. Any person who willfully attends church is a dog and should be treated like a dog.

>>39293 Post hand, immigrant-kun.

>>8366 God decides everything about everyone, yes. Deal with it. you are not free. And you will never be free. Every time that you try to be free, God will intervene and punish you for that. Side with the obedient. The winners. Or have your life ruined.

>>39553 I already chose to be ruined a long time ago, no material wealth will motivate me to be around white trash who are given wealth for being white and for no other reason

>>39607 >thinks in terms of material wealth with no concept of spiritual wealth >envious of the achievements reaped by the work of European excellence and for no reason at all white people just magically became privileged one day because racism

>>39717 Im old enough to remember when the United States was a country based on producing goods and services and rewarded people who were skilled at doing so. I was proud to be an american back then, but that no longer exists. The wealth of the United States in the last 10 years has nothing to do with exports of goods and services but is entirely dependent on banking and easy lending of money. The US does not design or produce anything anymore. Its full of people who are fake rich working bullshit jobs that drive a consumer based economy. So this all ties into how christianity is now a country club for white trash to pretend they made it in life but are really just a bunch of lowlifes living it up in fake consumer culture.

>>38692 Unbelief is sin, not because there is no evidence, for there is unlimited, infinite amount of miracles, works, wonders, material evidences like the shroud of Turin, the manuscripts, countless testimonies and scrolls and papiruses and mountains upon heaps of clear cut evidence. Every single time i argue with someone that there is no evidence we end up at the same place where they will admit that they just hate God for no reason and will proceed with their lives as if they won't go to hell, thats where it always end up. You can go outside and see that intelligent design and synchronicity bear witness that God made stuff. I told a guy that he could go see and touch noahs arc and he literally replied with i don't care if its real i just hate God.

You will not find honest discussion if you start your thread with dishonest questions. The replies almost exclusively come from people who don't go to church, who have never been to church and have never read a Bible. From what I can tell you want people to make you feel good about your choice of removing yourself from culture. You have nothing but the comfort of your sins.

>>39796 It's always the same false dichotomy with you Christians. You pretend that everyone is either a member of your cult or an atheist I KNOW there is a God because by God's grace I have beheld Him directly with my very eyes. I have no faith because he has blessed me with knowledge You have a book full of lies that keeps you from encountering true reality. God is not a man that impregnated his mother with himself so that he could do a convoluted human sacrifice of himself God is real, yes, and every religion loves to lie about Him for political reasons. Christianity makes up lies in the process of domesticating a population <follow all of the rules and all of your politicians, because God put them there <love your enemies <"resist not evil" For more than a thousand years everyone interested in science and literacy was directly encouraged to become a celibate monk and delete their bloodline. Even after all Christian nations have decayed into hellholes there are still pawns like you trying to spread it. Ridiculous

>>39343 >immigrant-kun >oy-vey.png >The people calling themselves 'Jew' view Christianity as their primary target for no reason

>>8366 Christianity is a jewish puppet religion

>>40151 It's really telling how every single Christian ITT ignored this post >>24284 and continues to ignore it Look Christians and respond please >>24284 >>24284 >>24284

>>24284 >why were Jews literally the only religious minority suffered to exist in Christendom? https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Spanish_Inquisition <The Inquisition was originally intended primarily to ensure the orthodoxy of those who converted from Judaism and Islam. The regulation of the faith of the newly converted was intensified after the royal decrees issued in 1492 and 1502 ordering Jews and Muslims to convert or leave Spain. >>38692 >atheist materialist Isn't that being redundant? >I'm simply saying that to believe in anything without evidence is bad There is no "evidence" of gravity, only theories on observations and experiments made. So do you believe in it? >just as the last 2000 years of Christianity have led the world to the pit of hell <Yes, clearly Christians was the ones who "started" this shit.

>>8366 The church is it's own worst enemy because the church is just not political. As an institution the vatican is completely irrelevant. That's what happens when the organization becomes an end in and of itself. >>40961 >ordering Jews and Muslims to convert or leave Spain. Oh no conversion, that totally stops jews from jewing! >>just as the last 2000 years of Christianity have led the world to the pit of hell For everything that you can blame the jews for, the church hasn't exactly been a help.

>>8542 What about Daniel? he is pretty f. up if you ask me. And Joseph too. There are no germanic (HUMAN) morals described anywhere in the bible. It's a fucking dessert culture mindset through and through and the only reason you don'tsee that is probablybecauseyou have been drenched in the same culture throughout your whole life by means of jewish televishion and books. Congratulations on being thoroughly mindfucked.

>>40986 Spain has a large Jewish population too. They're even a unique subset, the Sephardics. A ton of the new world conquistador types were sephardic If the Spanish Inquisition was antisemitic it clearly failed

>>8468 People aren't going to put in the necessary amount of studying to understand WHY rules were put into place. The bible doesn't explain jackshit either so people are going to look at stuff like "The man is the head of the household and the woman is to submit to her husband", think that's sexist and evil, see "don't fuck dudes in the booty and marriage is only between a man and a woman" and think that's bigoted, and then completely disregard the bible and adopt the seemingly harmless of "My morality boils down to 'You can do what you want as long as it doesn't bother anyone'". Next thing you know, people think marriage is worthless, MonkeyPox exposing that gay dudes have been having orgies damn near daily, and pic related. No anon. You can be white but that doesn't exempt from being retarded. Christianity has built in guardrails for retards who take things to an obssessive degree. It has been tried and true, cultivated for centuries. Use it.

>>8366 yeah its weird. i heard some of their shit and i would rather be watching the gore and penises here. they do some really intense guilt tripping and fearmongering as if the plan is to drive you to suicide. and this is supposed to be the kind of life you want to live forever

>>8366 >go to church for Easter >see White parents with a nignog (hopefully at the very least) adopted kid >disdain for christcucks grows

>>8411 Correct about the kike part but saying the crusades were about forcing Christianity on people is so far from the truth. Missionaries also didn't force anyone to convert; they weren't muslims that would force you to pay ridictulous taxes at best, or slit your throat at worst, if you didn't convert. https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=6aFkoX6g1fE&t=97s >>8412 Also, could you source me up on this. I only get shitty German versions when I search on Youtube >>8468 A truly euphoric post. *Tips fedora*

>>41364 Guess you can't embed here

>>41338 >The bible doesn't explain jackshit either so people are going to look at stuff like "The man is the head of the household and the woman is to submit to her husband", think that's sexist and evil There's a second part of that verse that people also LOVE to leave out, as it changes the entire meaning. It's Ephesians 5:22-33: <Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. <Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband. >see "don't fuck dudes in the booty and marriage is only between a man and a woman" and think that's bigoted And that's also listed in the same passage as that's outlawing infidelity and incest. Also, it does explain WHY those things are outlawed. Many of those laws are the standards God demands for a "holy" people (Which naturally are not because we're fallen in the eye's of God). And the Hebrews were given many chances to not be held by such high and strict standards, but they rejected that insisting that they were "Holy", per Joshua 24:14-26: <“Now therefore, fear the Lord, serve Him in sincerity and in truth, and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the River and in Egypt. Serve the Lord! And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” <So the people answered and said: “Far be it from us that we should forsake the Lord to serve other gods; for the Lord our God is He who brought us and our fathers up out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage, who did those great signs in our sight, and preserved us in all the way that we went and among all the people through whom we passed. And the Lord drove out from before us all the people, including the Amorites who dwelt in the land. We also will serve the Lord, for He is our God.” <But Joshua said to the people, “You cannot serve the Lord, for He is a holy God. He is a jealous God; He will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins. If you forsake the Lord and serve foreign gods, then He will turn and do you harm and consume you, after He has done you good.” <And the people said to Joshua, “No, but we will serve the Lord!” <So Joshua said to the people, “You are witnesses against yourselves that you have chosen the Lord for yourselves, to serve Him.” <And they said, “We are witnesses!” <“Now therefore,” he said, “put away the foreign gods which are among you, and incline your heart to the Lord God of Israel.” <And the people said to Joshua, “The Lord our God we will serve, and His voice we will obey!” <So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, and made for them a statute and an ordinance in Shechem. <Then Joshua wrote these words in the Book of the Law of God. And he took a large stone, and set it up there under the oak that was by the sanctuary of the Lord. And Joshua said to all the people, “Behold, this stone shall be a witness to us, for it has heard all the words of the Lord which He spoke to us. It shall therefore be a witness to you, lest you deny your God.” So Joshua let the people depart, each to his own inheritance.

I have an intense urge to speak with people who doubt God, but the words are hard to come by. Starting in my mid-teens, I had a 20 year journey through childish acceptance, despair, militant atheism, nihilism, humoring the idea of God as a technical possibility, finally coming around to at least seeing the merit of the bible on an intellectual level, and even then it took several more years before I could let go of the excuses I was using to remain safely skeptical. I now confident that God is real and Christ is the way to him. I did not plan or even hope to come to that conclusion. I was not led into it by others and I am not ignorant to alternative faiths and arguments against faith in general. I've heard it all, and while I can engage with issues point by point, I also know that debate of that sort is mostly just pissing in the wind. I'm not arrogant enough to think what took decades of living to turn me around I can compress into a few perfect sentences. I've been every type of doubter at one time or another, and a lot of those types of people are emotionally entrenched against God, goodness, and the concept of meaning in general in ways that require more than words. Jesus said that people will see him in you through your actions. Seeing him in other people's lives was a big part of what clued me in. I'm trying to get better at showing that, myself. What I will say is that I encourage you to read the bible for yourself (even if it's just as literature) and stop giving a fuck what anyone, especially the church, says. You really think the highest seats of power in the world, in the era where narratives and information is all that matters, would allow the most influential memetic force in human history to go unmolested? The popular image of Christianity has been hijacked and directed against you and against God. Jesus- a king, exorcist, and hero so great he was within all rights to sincerely preach supreme love and mercy- is depicted as a soft-natured pacifist on a cross. Most Christians support things that God never asked them to and you probably believe things about Christianity that might have sounded like definitive zingers against it out of context, but are in reality not even true. The gaggle of barely literate crackheads at the church up the street and the big Jesusplex full of gay flags and BLM stickers does not speak for God. If you had to choose one, you'd find more humility with the crackheads. Just read the book and let it stew in you. Go out into nature. Disconnect from the bullshit every now and again and allow yourself the quiet every generation of man before you used to hear his own voice. Maybe I'll have more to say some day, but that's all I've got for now. Christ be with you. There's still time.

>>40144 Post hand, shitskin refugee.

Christians today are especially less religious. They are more disenfranchised with their religion than any generation that came before them. When is the last time you met someone who took true inspiration from Jesus' teachings of empathy, compassion and patience? You won't find one on any imageboard. The Conservatives int he 1960s have successfully conspired to eliminate the last generation of the true practioners of faith by twisting good Christian values and identity with "traditional American values" that were political in nature and thus having little to do with the Bible. Today's Christians criticize the legitimate institutions like the Pope while dogmatically worshipping obvious pretenders like Televangelists and "The Second Coming of Jesus" Trump. The fact that such a phrase can be unironically stated by so-called good Christians should be proof enough that we're living in clown society.