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Anonymous 12/26/2024 (Thu) 20:50:40 No. 466610 >>466619 >>466620
Becoming a dad is about the most feminine thing you could do. A boy-mommy.
Abominations like you will never enjoy happiness. Unlike us, who have loving parents. Enjoy your suicide.
>>466612 oh shit dat cope!
>>466610 (OP) You would need omnipotence to be 100% masculine, and yes the masculine is r type oriented thus putting no care into the offspring, and that works for animals that have the physiology that allows them to not die due to it, however humans are not among them, and never will be because it is not group oriented
>>466620 >the masculine is r type oriented thus putting no care into the offspring leadership is a masculine trait. imagine not being the leader of your own sons. who will inherit your empire? some faggot raised by a single mom? sorry you were led astray by our degenerate society and so you conflate parenting with coddling. living selfishly and spending your resources on personal comfort/enjoyment is female behavior.
>>466621 that makes sense, however I'm talking about this in the in the sense that we are an animal thus have two approaches to offspring; K type, investment in a few offspring, less investment in copulation, cold/harsh stable ecologies select for it, and it is probably more of what we think of as civilized, how taken to the extreme it is coddling. r type, no investment in many offspring, does what it says on the tin, hot/easy yet unpredictable ecologies select for it, also because the only thing you have to worry about is avoiding predators, the populations tend to be primitive and stay primitive, I consider the natural masculine state to it being exhibited by most species in the male animals, and it makes sense, if there were variables that limited fitness that involve the vulnerability of being young, the female loses more, especially in mammals, getting pregnant is a heavy risky investment, that could very much work out with you dying, thus there is pressure on the females to get instincts to help her and her offspring survive, the most basic thing is to pick men to mate with that capable of violence because it makes her feel safe, and everything else is depending on variables like the k/r orientation of the ethnic group she is in, her genes, how much food is there, what is her position in the harem. anyway, the masculine is r type, because it is the behavior of most of males of most the species the problem here might be, i consider us animals 1st, and men 2nd, and you don't, meaning you contribute the masculine to man, a animal can not be masculine and can not suggest thing about it and I would agree using your logic, humans are clearly a mix of K and r, with the more valuable and able groups having more of a k bend, but you can be too k type, it is a big part of white people's problem now, the dygenics exaggerates everything about a population, and whites are naturally more K, but are too K now and it is used to manipulate them society, empire building, legacy, inheritance are all K things, they solely exist to help offspring and the reproductive caste I don't know, man, I'll say that you are stupid if you think being most masculine is good if it is not the most optimal for groups or even individuals men benefit individually from helping take care of their offspring, they get to not die like male lions
>>466624 beta KKKarrot here I love you anon I thought the reason women hurt me was just high machiavellianism, but them being type Retard spells it out better
>>466624 imagine being this retarded for so many words in a row
>>466631 It kinda is, dark Triad types and Psychopaths are r type strategies >>466633 I was drunk, but was too many words, fuck you
>>466663 It was Christmas do you have a point. K vs r is real if that what this dead place doesn't suffer if a ramble about it
>>466620 wrong as hell. human males tend more toward k selected slow life histories, females toward r selected fast life histories. read the documentation. women select for r type males, and men select for k type females.
having fetish to rape women without responsibility is also feminine.
>>466866 This is true. The biggest rapist I ever met was a femboy and he would use his UWU CUTESY persona to game girls and date rape them. He was also a chomo and would go after 10yos but his dad is a high ranking cop in a big city so all he ever does is a year per stretch, if he ever gets any penalties at all. And when I say he raped them I mean he hurt them, and liked doing so. I never witnessed any of it but he told me. I stopped being his friend after that. I wish I could find him and cripple him bad, wheelchair for life, no working dick, only can eat through a tube.
>>466872 Just looked him up because why not and he got a gun charge and he looks like he wants to suicide in his mugshot. I hope he keeps fucking up and gets long, long time and becomes someone's wife in there.
>>466725 Women don't have the hardware to be r type oriented
>>466872 >his dad is a high ranking cop in a big city so all he ever does is a year per stretch "High ranking" cops are like middle managers. I expect he would be asked to resign if he had a repeat offender chomo son, tarnishing the department's image. You can't get away with that shit until you become at least a mayor or something. >>466875 >I hope he keeps fucking children, so that I can feel schadenfreude when he becomes someone's prison wife you are a piece of shit, hoping for child rape
>>466879 Sure they do. R type women get pregnant by as many different men as quickly as possible. Even after getting married they still crave diverse sperm for their babies. K type women build a nest and a strong relationship first, selecting one suitable father to invest in a cohesive family unit with. I think most/all women are naturally R type, K selection needs to be forced via patriarchy. Amish, Orthodox Jew, Hindu etc
>>466890 pre industrial society kills r type oriented women, 1st her biology, she can only have one kid by one man at a time, if the man knows she is a whore, and doesn't know if the offspring is his, he'll not care nor invest in her, and pre industry outside of Africa means she and her offspring are dead by virtue of scarcity, 2nd society exists to protect women and thier offspring, if women evolved to not need that the ultimate k-type oriented strategy ( society) wouldn't exist The only reason they are trying to be more r type oriented now is because the dominant religion currently is a death cult thus putting people to a maladaptive life path and being r oriented is the antithetical to the biological interests of women
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>>466892 >pre industrial society kills r type oriented women Only the indiscreet ones got killed. I believe it was very common for women to go to their mom/sister/etc for help with DIY abortions using coat hangers, poisonous herbs, etc. It is extremely easy for women to get away with cheating because many men naturally go into denial when there are red flags, in order to spare their own egos. Pic related.
>>466899 human evolution partially started from mating guarding and cooperation among related males to not cuck each other, all societies where women are sociosexual are primitive, and die upon contact with societies with men control their women, and if you the human male isn't vigilant against being cuckolded, good for you are wrong. The men of this time sure, the men then, no also that story isn't telling him be cuckolded just that coal burners give themselves away
>>466899 also if women do cheat, it is usually with one other guy there are women that are naturally sociosexual, they are psychopaths
>>466872 that sounds like astolfo.
>>466892 >he'll not care nor invest in her, this is biology calledf "LARP" no such thing in biology. do you genuinely think men deduce like sherlock every time they date women? and women are all crazy about chastity scared of losing a man? one man? one replacable rook? we men have a single thing going for us, it's simping and simping. for some men who are rich its easy, for men who have high social status its easy as well, for average men or the men who are not so liked, it is not easy. women are attracted to welfare benefits, not to identity.
>>466952 I feel like you're just being retarded for sake of it >women are attracted to welfare benefits huh, almost like they are attracted to resources that in per-industrial times could only be gotten from men that trusted her to not cuck them >do you genuinely think men deduce like sherlock every time they date women? I know they don't want to be cucked >we men have a single thing going for us, it's simping and simping yeah, that is why the sand people will win, and take lots of women will be sex slaves
>>466904 >also that story isn't telling him be cuckolded that story proves paternity fraud was a concern even 1500 years ago. the meme is saying men will perform mental gymnastics to assume they themselves actually had secret nigger DNA the whole time, that's why the baby's black
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>>467011 yes, men are mentally easy. so easy in fact its hilarious but instead of teaming up into mgtow clubs men hate and blame each other instead, making society deteoriate. societies where men do anything for women are the worst of them all.
>>467011 I was hoping that story went on to him killing the niglet and whore Yeah, some men will delude themselves, but more would simply get rid of her or leave, there is no logical reason why that wouldn't happen more, it is the biological interests of the man
>>467023 >I was hoping that story went on to him killing the niglet and whore That's only permitted if multiple men not only witness the affair but also hate the woman enough to want her dead. Most of the time, if there were multiple witnesses it's because they were gangbang participants.
>>467032 That is funny, isn't she not supposed to go out of the house to 'keep her safe"
>>467035 yes, but i dont believe they consider violating that to be a capital offense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali_(Islamic_legal_guardian) >muh kikepedia islam is a jewish religion, kikepedia is an authoritative source in this instance.
I very much wish I could be a parent, but I can't find a trustworthy woman. Society incentivises them to cuckold men and then leave the cucks so said cucks have to pay alimony and child support (which never gets to the child, since the mother can spend it however she wants). I believe I'd be a good parent. I work with kids, and am successful in that field. However, I'm not confident that I can find a woman that would be as good a parent as me. Even if she didn't take the kid and deliberately ruin the kid's life (as well as my own), I can't find one that wouldn't simply raise the kid wrong. Even the ones that say they're not feminist actually are. They'd still raise my son to be a cuck or my daughter to be a selfish asshole. I've also seen the stats on kids raised by single fathers, and those stats show that those kids have outcomes almost the same as those with in-tact families. However, most of those kids raised by single fathers are actually totally fucked up, because fathers only get custody if the mothers are the worst of the worst abusive crackheads. So really, single fathers do extremely well, since they almost only exist in the worst of the worst circumstances. So I disagree with OP's assertion that being a dad has to be feminine. Modern men who become dads might sometimes be total cucks (often not even the real dads), but it doesn't have to be that way. It is a masculine trait to want to make the world better for the future, and being a parent is one important way to do that, so long as you do it right. Nobody is raised right these days, and that goes for us, too. Yes, I mean you, reading this right now. You're on this website, and that proves my point. But don't get me wrong, I think you guys are closer to being right than most of society. Now imagine how good you'd be if you weren't raised wrong. I know most of you have the types of mothers I'm complaining about, and the probably the types of fathers OP is making fun of, if your dads were even around at all (since maybe the mothers didn't want them around, and the mothers just get what they want in western societies). But that said, while it might be too late for us, we might be able to teach the next generation the lessons we should have learned earlier. But I've been working on it. I have a side-hustle that I can do from home, and it's just about at the point where it covers my mortgage and other basic expenses. So now all the money from my main job is being saved for one thing: surrogacy. I hate the idea of paying a woman for this, but frankly, it's less than you'd end up spending on a woman to have your kid otherwise, and this is one of the only ways to safely make sure the kid you get is actually your own, and to make sure that you actually get to raise the kid. The kid can't be taken away at the monetarily incentivized whims of the mother, and you can thus actually raise the kid right, so you don't end up with some sort of brainwashed feminist cuck or slut. I've been working on this for years. The government shutting down the economy and vastly increasing housing costs really slowed me down, but I own a pretty decent starter home now, and plan to flip it when possible so I can keep upgrading my investment. But since I live cheaply and don't have a woman around to waste all my money, my side hustle supports all my basic expenses, and I save a bunch from my main job. The money that was previously going toward a down payment on a home can now go toward surrogacy. And meanwhile my side-hustle is becoming a bigger and bigger percentage of my income, so once I can afford the surrogacy, I plan to work until the kid is born, then quit the main job and work from home, making some additional money in real estate when possible (at least selling my own place and moving if I see a good deal I can afford), so that I don't have to send the kid off to a brainwashing facility every day. I am confident in my ability to homeschool, and know for a fact that I can do it much more efficiently than other schools. I know because that's my current job, and all the government rules only exist to slow things down and teach the kids wrong on purpose. And of course even the government would admit that smaller class sizes are better for each individual student. With a class size of one, and a teacher that can actually just teach properly instead of spending most of the day trying to wrangle disruptive retards and convince the other kids to be homosexual communists, there would be so much more time left in the day to go and do fun stuff with your kid. Worried about your homeschooled kid not being "socialized?" You could easily finish all the lessons in a day twice as fast, then take the rest of the day to take your kid to group activities. And one long-term goal I'm considering is to open up a for-profit homeschooling operation. Most homeschooling actually involves small groups of families hiring a teacher to teach the way they want, which usually just means focusing on reading, writing, and arithmetic, instead of focusing on turning their kids into gay communists. This would require me to have a better house in a better location, but I'm working on that goal either way. I also worry that I'd be at a disadvantage in this field due to being male, but it's something I'm considering in the future, once I get a house big enough that I could convert a significant portion of it into a relatively professional looking classroom. The above homeschooling arrangement would fulfill several purposes. The first is something I get to do now, but even better. I get to help raise the next generation. Even now it is nice that I do get to do a better job teaching kids than most of my colleagues. Though I have to be very careful to hide my power level, I do get students showing overt appreciation for the simple fact that I don't push the propaganda as hard, that I sometimes offer some actual education instead, that I don't show outright hatred for whites or males or heterosexuals. It's not as much as I wish I could do, but it's a small positive difference, and that's something. And if I got this homeschooling business set up, I could do that more effectively, albeit with a smaller number of students. But it would also serve the purpose of letting me homeschool my own kid while also giving that kid a decent amount of socialization with other reasonably raised kids. That, plus you can make a pretty decent living doing this kind of gig. It pays pretty much the same as working at the public boards, as the parents understand that those are the employers they're competing against. But all that said, if I can't get that going, my side-hustle pays the basic expenses, and I could get by with that. >tl;dr: if you do it right, becoming a dad means influencing the next generation positively. It means building a better world than the one you were handed. I just can't say that I associate femininity with building society. We all know it's the opposite. All that said, once I get the money for surrogacy, I plan to pay extra for sex-selection, specifically so that I can ensure my child is a girl. I'm only one man, and though I think I could raise a kid well, I know that I wouldn't be able to change things enough that growing up as a boy, coming of age in the 2040s, wouldn't be hell. I wouldn't want to have to watch my son go through that. So I'd make sure I have a daughter, and with no pre-corrupted woman around to raise the kid (and maybe just take her away entirely), and no schools brainwashing her for 8 hours a day, maybe I could actually raise her to be the mythical creature known as "a good woman." And then she could use take the advantages our feminist society gives her and continue my legacy more effectively than I could do. She wouldn't have to hire a surrogate, at least. I know the above sounds really fucked up, but we've gotta have goals, and this is a long-term goal with many short-term goals along the way. Those short-term goals are all good on their own, but not good enough. But I like my long-term goals. If I can accomplish them, I can rest easy knowing I made the world a slightly better place. And you can, too. Because as fucked up as we are here, go and look at the outside world. It's a lot more fucked up. You guys are honestly some of the least fucked up, because at least you recognize the problems.
>>467038 No one is going to read this....
>>467038 Here's a shortcut for you: if a woman is pro choice she is not mother material. Ask your girlfriend/love interest, "What if you get pregnant?" If her first thought is whether or not to kill the baby, she's a whore. If her first thought is picking the baby's name or planning the wedding, she's good. 99% of American women are most concerned with their "right" to kill the baby, though. Unless you are willing to become Anabaptist you might as well give up, get a vasectomy. I got mine due to guilt from my exes killing my unborn kids. Never again.
>>467041 >Here's a shortcut for you: if a woman is pro choice she is not mother material. Yes, but there are many other things that may disqualify her as well. >If her first thought is picking the baby's name or planning the wedding, she's good. Not necessarily. Many women want the idea of a baby or the idea of a wedding, but that doesn't mean they'll be good mothers or wives. Many get married and have children, then get divorced and take the children. The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. They're socially and monetarily incentivized to do it. >99% of American women are most concerned with their "right" to kill the baby, though. This is not actually true. The rates of support on that issue are not sharply divided by sex. Or at least not that sharply. However, general left and right support is divided by sex, increasingly in the last few years. But not all women, even leftist women, support abortion. Many want the kids and the money that comes with them. That doesn't mean they'll raise them right, though. >Unless you are willing to become Anabaptist you might as well give up, get a vasectomy. I'm not quite that blackpilled yet. But I am blackpilled enough to be working toward affording surrogacy. But it's not all bad. Your complaints about 99% of American women? I'm confident that if I had one to raise on my own, and homeschooled her, then I could make her one of the one percent that you aren't blackpilled on.
>>467042 Good luck. Be sure to post here in 30 years to let us all know how it turned out.
>>467043 I've already been working on this and posting here (or on this board's predecessors) for over 15 years. It's what got me through college and shitty jobs and finally becoming a homeowner. But I'm making progress. I'll continue updating as that progress continues. However, I do worry that the surrogacy step is at least two years away. But I'm working on it. Gotta look into loans for it, but of course I'd prefer not to have to take loans, if possible.
>>467036 Islam is as gey as Christianity when it isn't under harsh selection >>467038 >But don't get me wrong, I think you guys are closer to being right than most of society I hope you everyone but >>466952. Fag
>>467038 > It is a masculine trait to want to make the world better for the future Wrong. That's self sacrificial cuckoldry. It's masculine to make it better for yourself, and feminine to give up your hard earned time for the sake of others. I bet you're proud to be a cuck.
>>467053 >make the world better for the future >make it better for yourself false dilemma
>>467053 in a male power fantasy everyone is better when he kills the dragon, men really can't be anything but eugenic, unless he is working for extinction, but even then the context matters, most of male psychology is based around dominance hierarchies because the only way to not get murdered and to win anything in biology for a man is to be part of an army It is women that can biologically afford hyper individualism, to the detriment of the future, that is reflected in thier power fantasies, where society loses the genes that make a great men so some mediocre self insert can satisfy her hypergamy


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