>>1378607 It's very mediocre. The dialogue is repetitive and juvenile. The combat system is repetitive and gets old quick. The story is full of plot holes. It was astroturfed by game journalists because it was an indie game

>>1378596 Nobody except you uses the definition that way. The fact that your interpretation is more correct doesn't actually mean anything in practice because the concept of a genre is based on colloquial understanding.

>>1378621 It's a Japanese RPG retard. Stop trying to make game genres like retarded gender identities

Wtf is calling Expedition 33 a Jrpg?, are they fucking retarded? Next we gonna call Might and Magic 7 a Jrpg. Being a game journalist should be a job to ridicule and make fun of, like having a PhD in Mongolian throat singing. >>1378621 I use Jrpg exclusively for roleplaying games made and developed in Japan and everyone else i interact with does so too. Like BG3 is a Wrpg and so is Expedition 33, i have never seen anyone calling expedition 33 a Jrpg but then again i dont follow any game journalists

A jrpg is for people in a row. I'm sorry anon, but that's just the way it is.

>>1378679 I feel like it would be easier in your mind to just scrap any of the geo-associated genre name because the point for terms for genres are a number of traits they share with other games that impact the gameplay in an articualted way. A game being from japan has little impact in how the game is designed exclusively because of the country of origin outside of localization. E33 in this case shares a lot more elements with Persona 5 than Persona 5 with Demon's Souls despite the latter 2 being developed in Japan. If Falcom decided to pull up all stakes and move to Dallas Texas and released their newest Trails game, is that a JRPG or a WRPG? If its a JRPG in your head, then you're now boiling down JRPG categorization past their country of origin, but now the ethnicity of the creators. If we follow down that path then we enter into more absurd territory. While I understand your undergirding opinion, the solution would be just popularising the terms better describe the elements that aren't based on location: TBRPG (Turn Based RPG) ARPG (Action RPG like Diablo) AARPGS (Action Adventure RPGs like Dragon's Dogma, KH, or Monhun) CAG (Character Action Game like Viewtiful Joe and DMC) Blobbers/Dungeon Crawlers Ultima-likes CRPGs (Classic RPGs)

>>1378596 No, I am more upset at people pretending something like FFVII remake is a JRPG than I am about indies aping JRPGs calling their game JRPGs.

To me, JRPG is more than just gameplay. It’s a product of a cultural expression, and that culture is of course Japanese in essence. I see the whole thing as a proof that americans being so butthurt about Japan is a lot more relevant in entertainment media that they will even use Expedition 33 as ammo for their anti-Japanese propaganda by slandering everything that is related to Japan. Which is pretty gay because the Expedition33 devs seem to be big french weebs like myself and I'm interested in their game, even when I play a lot of Japanese titles most of the time.

>>1378956 I think this is why I was so taken with E33 honestly. Just like many JRPGs have elements which utilize Japanese culture in some way, E33 is the same. Just as JRPGs even if not set in Japan have references to Princess Kaguya or folktales, E33 does the same with the cultural exports of France with its music, character/costume design, focus on painting / art as well as french filmhouse elements.

>>1378596 I think what makes an RPG a JRPG has more to do with the game philosophies and influences being more akin to the RPG pioneers rather than just the location in which games are developed, otherwise you can easily call games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario JRGPs even though I certainly wouldn't and I take those kinds of claims are a sacrilege among JRPG fans... and I can't blame them. What, if OMOCAT developed OMORI in japan, would OMORI be a JRPG as well? That sounds silly.

>>1380283 >a JRPG has more to do with the game philosophies and influences being more akin to the RPG pioneers rather than just the location in which games are developed You mean being a dungeon-crawler rather than an open-world sandbox?

>>1378596 I think Jrpg also means "anime rpg" now. Like any rpg with an anime aesthetic could 'pass' as a jrpg, so it's easy to mistake Sea of Stars as one.

Finished Visions of Mana and I didn't like it. >gameplay I played on hard, and the combat system itself was decent. I found the AI terrible in the beginning but as I got better equips and more skills they became mediocre to decent. They still died a lot for me especially in the final boss. I was very disappointed that you couldn't mix and match class passives until the postgame. For abilities I didn't really feel a need to really change things unless I did those elemental trials. >story It's shit and one of the worse stories even for JRPGs. To add to the crap storytelling they throw an excessive amount of cutscenes to pad the game. There are two types of cutscenes: one where you can mash the button to skip to the next dialogue and one where you cannot mash the button to quickly read along. There is an option to skip them entirely but if you want to follow the story then sometimes you have to sit and watch. Not to mention you start a cutscene then they make you walk like 5 steps to initiate the next cutscene. Repeat for the entire game and it gets really tiresome. >visuals I liked the art direction and the maps' looks. The people models looked very dumb though. >music Forgettable.

RPGmaker is fine, right? 7th Stand User, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure RPG maker fangame made by a Japanese housewife in her free time. You take a personality test at the start of the game that gives you a cool OC stand with its own moves, stats and influences over the original events of Stardust Crusaders. The combat is pretty solid for RPGM2000, there's a lot of things you can do to either alter the course of events or get unique rewards and outcomes, making the game very replayable. The soundtrack is a very good selection of what I assume are royalty free songs from some website or another. Expect to grind a lot and maybe have a guide in hand. Probably one of the best fangames out there, and a must play if you like Jojo.

>>1380396 >You mean being a dungeon-crawler rather than an open-world sandbox? You may jest, but you're kind of on the right track. I may not be the best to talk since my only real references of JRPGs are Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest V and Bravely Default, but for the little I've gathered, RPGs and JRPGs are a matter of style that can only be describe with the sum of it's parts, rather than one element or another. The passive turn-based combat, the emphasis in party customization, the complexity of stat modifiers, the random encounters, the middle ages worldbuilding, the maze-like dungeons, the orchestra symphonies, the pocket and stylized art direction, the linear story progression, the multiple playthrough hours and the emphasis on telling a tale rather than just being a game... when you put a handful of those things together, you got something that can be confidently called a JRPG, primarily because they feel much closer to the role playing game pioneers, the pen and paper ones, as well the computer ones.

Been in a mood lately for /x/-type vidya, or at least something that would be approaching that vein of stuff. Recommend me something similar to SMT in terms of dark themes, edge, mystery and overall strangeness, with a strong plot and characters.

>>1380283 Earthbound is a relatively typical JRPG for the SNES era (though better than most). Why wouldn't Earthbound be a JRPG? The non-medieval setting?

So this one guy is literally the father of everyone in the thieves guild? And because Throne's mom was in the Blacksnakes too, this means that he's Throne's grandfather and father at the same time? What the fuck

>>1383023 This is pretty good. I don't play an RPGM game without a walkthrough and I'm glad I did. There are alot of things here you need a secondary source for.

So you guys know any good RPGs with eugenics mechanics? And preferably if they're a central loop in the game's core. I hear something like, say, FE Awakening, you can optimise the units you breed, but it's like once per playthrough thing (dunno never played). I want something where you can constantly breed things and have them go from wimps to demigods with enough generations

>>1696440 I think you should take this to porn games thread.

>>1696440 Pokemon?

>>1696451 Is this autism contained to porn games? It doesn't need to be literal fucking. Something like Chao breeding is cool. I just played that to death already. >>1696515 Too simplistic. It's mostly IVs or egg moves there

>>1696519 >Too simplistic. It's mostly IVs or egg moves there I am not sure if other monster catching games like Digimon Cyber Sleuth or Monster Rancher are more up to your liking. There is also SMT, but it's demon fusion, not exactly breeding, or maybe it counts? Maybe also the Creature stage from Spore?

>>1696440 Look into Oreshika Tainted Bloodlines

>>1690839 >>1693289 There's an absurd level of "mew under the truck" kind of bullshit through the game Like the entirety of Joseph's true route and I love it Which stand did you get, by the way?

>>1696440 >I want something where you can constantly breed things and have them go from wimps to demigods with enough generations This is the main appeal of Dragon Quest Monsters. The 3ds remake of the second game is a good time, Cobi & Tara's Journey, though you'll need the fan translation patch if you can't read moonrunes.

>>1702174 Howlin' Wolf. Thinking of trying some of the support stands like Cardigans or Caravan next as they have more interactivity with the world. I kinda wish the stands got more interactions besides a few of them. DON'T FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR DIO

Play Azura's Wrath. It's fully playable on Xenia. Grab the DLC 4th episode as well as the Street Fighter Crossover here: https://myrient.erista.me/files/No-Intro/Microsoft%20-%20Xbox%20360%20(Digital)/

>>1380283 > I think what makes an RPG a JRPG has more to do with the game philosophies and influences being more akin to the RPG pioneers rather than just the location in which games are developed In the 80s the Japs cloned the first RPGs and made them better by adding art, music, and better stories than the one-paragraph introduction that the average RPG had back then. Over the next 20 years western devs focused on technical experimentation while Square, Enix, and their copycats took a simple combat engine that worked and wrapped great art, great music, and great stories around it. Someone in the 90s or early 2000s noticed the contrast and made the distinction.

>>1360242 >>1348970 >>1290841 >been waiting for this game to be playable ever since the Sonic Unleashed decomp >somehow forgot to check on its progress until I saw this thread in the catalog Thank you anons for making these posts and reminding me that I need to play Lost Odyssey ASAP.

>>943592 This should be called the /tv/ show recommendation thread instead.