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The Video Game Industry is imploding Anonymous 02/29/2024 (Thu) 18:35:05 Id: 0c7012 No. 940732
I wanted to make a thread for this since it seems every day there's either a massive amount of industry layoffs or some publisher splitting off. Most recently Toys for Bob and Saber Interactive have split from their previous holders with rumors of Gearbox being sold off or going private after splitting off from Embracer like Saber just did. Additionally 505 have just shut down a bunch of offices in Spain, Germany, and France. Since just last holiday there have been over 15,000+ layoffs in the video games industry with a lot of companies restructuring like Embracer and Sony after deals with the Saudi's and the Chinese have basically gone sour. This is in addition to games like Spider-Man 2 (2023) costing over 300 million dollars and with the constant failures of live service games, it makes sense why the industry is experiencing a soft crash as it were. It remains to be seen what will come of the video games industry and what will rise from the ashes. I'm expecting to see more smaller publishers pop up while the current publishers will focus on making smaller games with tighter budgets. That being said no one really knows where the industry will go from here. sources: https://archive.ph/YI6OK https://archive.is/ZzK5C https://archive.ph/3z9RF
IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING THE CRASH IS STARTING
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>>940732 > Don't press F. Just enjoy it
>>940732 >Toys for Bob Good, they fucked up the Crash Trilogy and 4 was hot garbage that killed the franchise harder than the shitty gamecube games. >EA and Embracer feeling the bern Good, no explanation nessary for this one >505 games I haven't played any of their games so I can't say one way or another. Who is actually upset about this? I mean, there could be bigger issues when it comes to people's day to day lives once inflation really fucks up things that are essential for that. All I see is Embracer woo some rich sand niggers, said sand niggers told them no, and now they are panicking. Soyny and microcock going the way of the dreamcast was more of a when than if moment.
>>940732 graphics obsession has finally lost
>>940747 It's not just graphics, it's also the constant obsession with short term profits, trends like NFTs/AI, token SJW hires from gaming press websites, and generally not knowing what the audience wants because of retards on reddit.
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dance thread?
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EVERYTHING IS FIRE
>>940749 >teh SJWs and reddit nintendo is "woke" and is killing it, stop inserting your politics into everything
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I think it's still too soon to celebrate a big part of this is the overhiring during the pandemic so the market is correcting itself, but goddamn, it feels good to see it happening!
>>940756 >>940749 Not reddit, but twitter actually.
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Who am I to argue against the masses? DANCE THREAD
>>940732 This has been happening for a while, Indie games have been raising to overtake their competition with thousands of great games.
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>Industry is imploding Neigh! The industry is self correcting itself Too many games that are crazy expensive to make, which leads to too many games being insanely derivative and milquetoast just to reach the broad audience, which lead to too many games just not being profitable enough due to the reasons previously mentioned. This is insanely good for the industry, it's not "imploding", it's just the downsizing that it needed to go through. If it was imploding, none of the small devs would be suffering because of it.
>>940756 Nintendo Treehouse is woke, Nintendo of Japan is apolitical. Retard.
>>940767 >allowing Treehouse to exist Ignoring the situation doesn't solve the problem. Retard.
>>940732 >>940736 We all knew this was going to happen. And thank sweet Arceus that it finally did.
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On top of said layoffs and giant companies eating dirt, it also feels like on the other hand, small and mid-sized companies are thriving. You hear about little commercial success from one to twenty guys in a shed every month now, like Pizza Tower, Ultrakill, Cruelty Squad, Robocop: Rogue City and most recently Palworld, among many others, and these companies are rarely any kind of powerhouse, "AA" at best. Not to mention there is now the absolutely abysmal launches of the first "AAAA" games, from Forspoken to Skull and Bones, which single-handedly prove that burning so much money into a single project, especially considering the dev hell Skull and Bones went through, just isn't sustainable at all, unless your games series are literally so engraved into society itself, you simply sell just by its name no matter the quality you deliver, like Call of Duty, GTA, or Pokemon. Honestly, I'm all for it. AAA stopped being a mark of quality and turned into a red flag. This market shift can only lead to more quality games.
Man Anon's thread here >>917668 really sticks true.
>>940742 >Toys for Bob >they fucked up the Crash Trilogy debataable >and 4 unsavable
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>>940742 >>940801 Toys for Bob worked on the Spyro Trilogy not the Crash Trilogy. They did shit out Crash 4 however. Crash Trilogy was Vicarious Visions which is now a fucking Blizzard division and helped develop Diablo Poor.
>>940732 Serves Embracer right for thinking the Sandnigs would honor their side of the deal and for letting Deep Silver and Volition fuck everything up.
>>940732 Thank the most high God.
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>>940751 >>940754 At least wait for something to actually happen.
>>940767 >allows gay spousal benefits in a country with no gay marriage >black splatoon idol >mario is fully playable in a wedding dress in odyssey, luigi is happy for him >femboy link >super mario bros movie was 90 minutes of mario getting dabbed on by a woman and a jew cope
>>940767 >Nintendo of Japan is apolitical Right: https://archive.ph/EC0WD
>>940767 >>940836 >>940838 >>940840 also your boss in pikmin 4 is a strong black queen with zero sex appeal and you can give your character a purple "i hate men" haircut
>>940842 She's an incompetent gyaru.
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Gearbox is rumored to be getting sold. I really don't know what to think about it. They made BL2 and BL3 just fine under 2K. Wonderlands and how middle of the road it was was under Embracer, and New Tales's trash fire was Embracer. I'm curious what an entirely independent Gearbox Borderlands would look like, but I also worry that it wouldn't have the money to have the weapon design polish that I've come to love from the series since BL2.
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>>940879 >Memelands
>>940883 Yeah yeah. I just hope 4 is as good as the fanbase loves 2.
>>940879 >They made BL2 and BL3 just fine under 2K. Because Randy kept doing magic tricks with everyone's money, first with Sega's money that was supposed to be spent on Aliens: Colonial Marines that got funneled into B2, then with his own employees that he underpaid while promising royalties from B3's revenue that he never paid after. Randy's career is full of lawsuits because of how slimy it is with money that isn't his.
You heartless fucking monster, you should have bought more JPEGs, now people have to be out of job! https://archive.is/uo9J7
>>940902 Hey Binky you faggot, better shit out a new video.
>>940906 Look up who made "Sunk Cost Galaxy.
>>940910 Come on anon, it didn't even take me a second to search a "Binky" who made a video named Sunk Cost Galaxy and I'm not even involved with the conversation. I'll spoonfeed you, but just for that you're gonna have to Yewtube it yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGq4YEp8QUY
>>940879 Strip the homeworld license from them first Embracer.
>>940917 Blackbird got completely gutted with layoffs, Homeworld 3 is going to be a trainwreck.
>>940940 >>940943 not an argument nintendo has been demonstrated to be woke as fuck
>>940940 Do we really need to bring out the Fire Emblem (((translations)))?
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Retards! stop replying to niggerpill and/or Luciano, for fuck's sake!
Just an FYI. Seeing the backlash against their plans, leftist as usual are just doing the same thing with a different name, "Real diversity has never been tried", "Right wingers ruined everything" A few notable example: - University: https://archive.ph/Sfin2 https://www.oudaily.com/news/ou-diversity-equity-inclusion-change-name-access-opportunity/article_b2cd53e0-d030-11ee-bb8f-2705fc3d88a8.html - Business policy: https://archive.is/KtGX6 https://jedicollaborative.com/ - Industry policy: https://archive.ph/h06A1 https://www.mattinglysolutions.com/post/re-naming-dei-focus-on-the-work-not-what-it-s-called Just to name a few. There's probably something similar in the work for gaming companies, but at the same time "AAA" companies can for the most part die and no value will be lost.
>>940962 Also it's not just DEI but ESG is also getting a rebranding. So keep an eye out.
>>940962 >>940967 One of the new names they're trying is "Bridge" (Belonging, representation, inclusion, diversity and equity, “the g is the gap in all those things”): https://archive.ph/TDXXh Also, copying from the Kadokawa thread: >>>/v/934592 >The big two is that ESG is being replaced with "Stakehold metrics" and DEI is being repalced with "Equity and Restorative Justice". However, they are attempting all manner of replacement terms: https://archive.ph/tjkpS >This is but a small list of some of them: <Accountable commitments/business/investing <Adverse impacts <All/marginalized/under represented/undocumented businesses/citizens/communities/companies/demographics/groups/human beings/people/values <Challenges facing humanity/our planet <Changing climates <Climate accounting/belonging <Collective actions <Cultural/institutional/systemic changes/economics/priorities <Decarbonization <Degrowth <Ecological accounting <Energy transition <Environmental work <Evolving markets <Fair business/investing/economics/outcomes <Global imbalances/prosperity <(Corporate) Governance (Just added this one) <Green economy <Harmful/hateful actions <Holistic contribution/environments/management/marketing <Inclusive/Reformed/Stakeholder Capitalism <Infrastructure development <Integral human development/well-being <Inviting businesses/communities/companies/cultures <Limited growth <Measurable actions <Moral imperatives <More inclusive <Ongoing commitments <Organization challenges/culture/belonging <Performance outcomes <Polarized environments/communities <Positive impacts/discrimination <Public commitments <Responsible business/investing/economics <Shared impacts/outcomes <Sustainable economics/growth/investing/production <Transition investing <Trusted business/investing/economics/society <Well-being economy This should cover about 90% of the things their attempting.
>>940767 Practically correct Treehouse/NoA/NoE like other localization branches have slowly weaseled there way to affecting the creative process most likely due to constant bitching to the devs and the board that is over them similar to xseed begging the Rune factory devs to add in gays. However once AI translation comes in full swing this problem would likely be resolved since the dig on them showed that it is mostly treehouse's editorial team that is to blame for most of ninendo's shitty translations.
>>940962 >>940967 >>940979 Rebranding only makes them weaker though as this looks like what happens when someone steps on an anthill. As long as nothing doesn't change people will still call them out.
>>940981 does treehouse even do translations today? i was under the impression that after firem emblem IF nintendo banned them from touch their games ever again. To the point that xenoblade 2 that was one of nintendo biggest games was translate in english only by NoE
>>941025 Yeah they fucked over FE: Engage luckily there is a translation patch for it. https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/fire-emblem-engage-uncensored-patch.1730/#post-16490
Im very glad that the remake of KOTOR wont see the light of day. One can only wonder the sheer damage Sam Maggs would do to Revan's crazy quest and his Jedi babysitter.
>>940736 It took far too long.
>>940981 >owever once AI translation comes in full swing this problem would likely be resolved since the dig on them showed that it is mostly treehouse's editorial team that is to blame for most of ninendo's shitty translations. Why would it be resolved? AI translation still needs human oversight from an English speaker. How would AI translation get rid of the actual censors in overseas marketing that demand censorship without ever being involved in the translation process?
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>>941080 I hope Disney never touches Kreia
>>941085 It was subsidized enough to delay its inevitable demise, but now, we finally get to watch this shit industry burn.
OH NO
>>941109 They wouldn't. She's not popular enough so if they wanted to steal her they'd just make a "new" character with the most superficial of things taken from Kreia so then they'd own the character in its entirety.
>>941162 Thats what they always do. Take for example Revan, hes referenced in the new movies and they treat him as just another sith lord. He was also planed to appear in clone wars, again, just as a sith lord, because they are unaware of the fact that the "darth" part of revan was just a part of his character and journey, completely missing the point. Also, they literally just stole his looks to make a shittier version of him in kylo ren.
>>940732 Programmer at a AAA studio here, the industry is indeed fucking falling. I survived the layoffs at my company as it seems they primarily lay off localization, human resources and marketing teams. Not a single programmer at my company got affected.
>>941162 >>941209 Never under estimate the Disney bootlicking shitheads like Filoni who explicitly state his hatred of the EU, but gladly steals from itl
>>941212 >primarily lay off localization You mean actual translators who convert english to other languages? I thought they were too important to the process of accessing chinks and other foreign audiences to force their western garbage on.
>>941212 so nothing of value was lost?
>>941212 >>941217 As expected
>>941212 Even more good news. FUCK localizers. FUCK marketing. FUCK HR. The world is healing.
Pictures: 1 Oh no, the kids, we sold shitty overpriced figures with shitty games to, grew up! 2 The only trouble they have is that they don't want to make a based game for white men. 3 These niggers published shit like Death Stranding. Basically nothing new.
>>941214 they probably have bloated teams, when you can get by with far fewer staff and still release a salable product
>>941280 Episode 10 is already in production, being handled directly by the WEF no less, and it's going to be about how Rey is establishing her Jedi Order.
>>941303 It pays the bills I'm guessing
>>941303 Sup neet.
>>940902 SAY IT SAY MY NAME
>>941299 I bet it will be cancelled before release.
>>941299 Why the fuck was the comment deleted?
>>941387 The comment was a threat to free speech
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>>940783 At this point, the amount of investment required to produce a AAA game means it will need to sell insane amounts of copies to turn a profit. As such, they generally need to either be ingrained in society, as you mentioned, and/or appeal to a sizable number of major demographics. That latter option is a major reason why AAA has increasingly become flavorless sludge in more recent years. Because gaming, as a medium, has expanded its potential demographics so much, hitting most demographics at the same time has become an increasingly impossible task. Meanwhile, games with lower budgets can be designed with smaller demographics in mind, since they don't need to sell as well to turn a profit. Since those games are inherently more appealing to the demographic they're aimed at, they're taking pieces of pie from AAA, which, in turn, makes it less viable. I don't believe that AAA will die wholesale, but it will be a lot more condensed into fewer franchises, as companies become more spooked to invest in riskier endeavors. The future could very well be bigger publishers investing into a more sizable mass of smaller-scale games more. Think something along the lines of EA Originals, but on a grander scale. Side note: I think the "Woke game" angle as a reason for the implosion is overstated. The overall tide seems to be turning against that culture in general, not just in gaming, but it's a piece of a greater puzzle, at most.
>>941374 I'M SORY DEREK
To all the naysayers on pre-Trump Cuckchan, 8chan/8kunt who said the collapse would never happen in anyway and in any fashion:
>>940904 CIG is so powerful that it even silences goons. Binky hasn't made a video in YEARS,
>>941418 Everything around us is collapsing. What we wanted was just AAA gaming to collapse, not the entire economy.
>>940766 >self correcting This sounds like it should be a euphemism for masturbation.
>>940766 I agree with you.
>>941433 No, you're just mentally disturbed from surrounding yourself with too much lolicon symbology. It makes no sense for that phrase to mean that.
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>>941393 What really made me understand that gAAAy, was done for even beyond Japanese games like Elden Ring and Persona selling millions. Was weird western shit like Slay the Princess and Andy and Leyley being talked about as much as BG3, and in some cases selling even more then a COD game (see Lethal Company)
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>>941467 Amazing.
>>941448 >No, you're just mentally disturbed from surrounding yourself with too much lolicon symbology. You're just as retarded as he is.
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>>941374 DEREK SMART DEREK SMART DEREK SMART DEREK SMART DEREK SMART
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>>942117 YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT
Some Anons wanted to know how companies are spending MILLIONS on games with nothing to show for it Aside from hiring and appealing to "consultants" like what's going down with Sweet Baby Inc., Rockstar just gave you your answer. >‘Before Rockstar, I Was Just a Jobbing Actor Off Broadway’: Arthur Morgan Actor Roger Clark on the Red Dead Redemption 2 Effect https://archive.ph/EhH29 >Grand Theft Auto 6 devs hit out at Rockstar’s ‘reckless’ return-to-office mandate https://archive.ph/J6MFv The TL;DR is that these companies are spending ludicrous amounts of money to: <Handing a blank check to people who literally have ""nothing"" to do with developing the actual fucking game <Appealing to employees who are demanding that they never be required to do any actual work
>>942648 It's so many things anon >Brain drain from shit pay and working conditions >The hiring of incompetent replacements along with outsourcing >Good old nepotism >Hiring useless cunts for useless HR and other social science bullshit bloating the company >Working from home making people miss their deadlines >New hires and useless cunts being mostly uncompromising idealist faggots and driving off decent people from these companies >Management being completely clueless and pushing for games in genres just because they're trendy >Investement company money covering the costs making the end product meaningless regardless of quality plus all the SJW shit added on top to get that investement money in the first place I could go on and I'm probably missing a ton of stuff, but it's a shitton of stuff, AAA pipelines are completely fucked and companies like Activision and Bethesda don't just sell themselves to Microsoft if they're doing well despite their claims to get more investement money. Only AAA companies even close to sustainable are EA due to fucking FIFA, and Take2 due to GTA and even they are one flop away from just tumbling down with all the internal issues they have.
>>942648 >Have past achievement made by talented people attached to company name >Be able to get millions from bank and publisher funding with said old fame >Use most money for diversity and virtue signaling >Give crumbs to external devs that do most of the work >Proceed to assemble the mish-mash code and add poz story in cinematic
>>942654 Got jannied from cuckchan again faggot?
>>942654 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOY
>>942652 >Give crumbs to external devs that do most of the work That is the biggest and oldest lesson: if you are enthusiastic about your job, and actually skilled and talented, everyone else will leech from you and give you nothing. If you want to do actual work, do it alone. Joining any company or government is a mistake. And if you see yourself already being leeched by the scum, quit your damn job and go do something else. Stop being the slave to parasites who only want to use and discard you.
>>942648 >nothing to show for it Nothing that they show off, more like. Most projects - especially AAA projects - end up spending pretty huge chunks of money on things that don't make it into games and aren't ever circulated externally aside from maybe a BTS video or art book or leaked build or whatever. When you have a project with "troubled development" you can end up paying for about four games' worth of work but one game to show for it. I'd also note, though, that using Rockstar as a barometer for the financial side of gaming doesn't really work because they're not comparable to anyone else. Rockstar has had a "go big or go home" approach since GTA SA and so far has been completely vindicated; GTA V is the single most profitable piece of media ever created and RDR2 moved sixty million copies. Even if making and marketing GTA VI eclipses the budget of Shekel Yidizen (currently at ~$650M) and R* is only netting $30 per copy at the end of the day after the publisher's cut and taxes and sales and whatever they still only need to move ~22M units to break even and I would be surprised if it doesn't move 100M+ units as a lifetime total and shocked if it doesn't break 50M - and that's not even figuring in DLC or the Hebraic realm of microtransactions. They'll make back their entire budget and then some in one (1) weekend and everything else will be gravy. There aren't really many other games that those kinds of numbers apply to, much less third-party AAA titles and especially less devs who have been doing it consistently for decades. Even GTA III shipped almost 15M units and as a franchise the two RDR titles have shipped more than every Halo game combined.
>>942767 >Even if making and marketing GTA VI eclipses the budget of Shekel Yidizen (currently at ~$650M) and R* is only netting $30 per copy at the end of the day after the publisher's cut and taxes and sales and whatever they still only need to move ~22M units to break even Anon, you're not accounting for several factors. In the past decade, things now cost 30% more than they did back in 2014 because of inflation. In addition, you need to account for how fast they can sell the game. GTAV is "the single most profitable piece of media ever created" because Rockstar spent the past decade releasing, rereleasing, remastering, and giving away for free the same game across every platform imaginable. This is also forgetting that GTAV and RDR2 had almost nothing to compete against in that expanse compared to the other sandbox titles other companies were releasing during the time from GTAIII (2001) to EfLS (2010). You know, series like Mafia, True Crime, Saints Row, Mercenaries, Just Cause, Driver, Midnight Club, Need for Speed, The Getaway, and The Godfather just to name a few.
>>942789 And a ching chong nip nong to you fine sir.
>>941212 I hope this is true.
>>942767 None of that alleged "profit" matters. They spend way more than they earn, and they WILL go bankrupt.
>>940741 > Don't press F. Just enjoy it If anything, i am pressing "S" to spit on grave. S
So this is why they started gamergate 2, to blame their customers for their downfall.
>>946302 They'd blame global warming if given the chance, they always find some shit excuse for their misgivings. Putting out a good product? No fuck that
>>940732 people are poor. inflation is fucking everyone's dicks hard. no money to spend on stuff like vidya. rent and food and clothes come first. in that order. and benzene, if you need a car to go to and from work.
>>940879 i haven't played the borderlands games, but i've read that the borderlands games have become further and further distanced from what actually made borderlands borderlands. instead of having fun adventures in the literal borderlands, the gang now goes out to outer space and to different planets, or whatever. seems like randy wanted to pivot the series over to something more akin to guardians of the galaxy or something, is the feeling i have about that series' evolution.
>>947696 We are in the perfect conditions for total luxury destruction There is no stability, no free time, and no excess funds left over from the wages of a standard 40 hour work week. Things are about to get "very fun" very fast for both industries and people alike.
>>940732 Some old screencaps, despite the age they're just as apt now as they were beforehand.
>>947702 I remember the first Borderlands making jokes about the ass of its female PC Lilith, far cry from whatever 3 is. Of course the series was always kinda sanitized and pandering to the people who like Marvel movies.
>>947713 after a life-time of consuming 'slop, i believe i've now managed to figure out out how the formula works. the first creation must always be solid. ultra-tier good, even. the second creation, insert-your-favorite-god-here willing, must be even better and surpass the initial creative work of art. and then it's time for the hat-trick, the ultimate expression of that creative work of art's very soul. the game to top it all. the creation that must come to define the very genre it is in. this is where they often fuck up. they go too big. too fast. too furious(huehue), and stumble at the finish line. very few creative works of art manage to not slip at the finish line. the ones who do, become legendary. the lord of the rings trilogy is a glorious trifecta of immortal art that comes to my mind, for example. usually, though, the result ends up being more batman arkham trilogy than lotr, sadly.
>>946302 Who is John Galt?
>>941145 >It took far too long. Unfortunately it's gonna take a lot longer still. Liberals and kikes have completely taken over the industry so if it starts falling hard Blackrock will just command the US government to subsidize it; or in other worse, make the White goyem pay to keep it alive. Until ZOGS money power starts failing the cancer killing games won't die.
>>940842 Why are you looking for sex appeal in PIKMIN, of all games?
>>947925 Because the traits he described are SJW calling cards, and at least having a little bit of sex appeal would be one thing that would go against that.
>>947707 >total luxury destruction Good.
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600 EMPLOYEES AINT SHIT, TAKE2 WIPES HIS ASS WITH 600 EMPLOYEES https://archive.is/EtcGy
>>959312 I can't wait for some whistleblower to spill the beans on Take 2 (and especially Rockstar) once they get canned for not crunching and sucking up to office big wigs enough.
>>942749 nice larp
>>959317 They must have so many skeletons
>>959331 It doesn't matter as long they're promoting THE MESSAGE: https://inv.oikei.net/watch?v=QjFobLJ5tPs
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Technically speaking, what is stopping game studios from just ditching publishers and making their own games on their own?
>>966328 Funding.
>>966332 And emboldened fanboys who will tear down anyone who dares compete against their globalhomo company of choice. Part of the reason I stay out of nintendo threads, for the most part. Sorry Mark, but nintedo fanboys are just as rabid as ever.
>>966328 >>966332 I'd believe that "money" is a real part of the issue if it wasn't for hacks like Ken Levine and Kojima, who can spend tears on end just playing with their dick and they still get paid.
>>966340 Not everyone can secure funding on the basis of having a recognised name.
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>>966335 I still remember when everyone forgave Capcom when (((MegaMann))) and Ryu got confirmed for Smash, did it go for the better? Did Capcom finally redeem themselves?
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>It's even got it's own dedicated Wikipedo article now lol, guess some editors have friends in these shithole companies. Been telling you lads that the crash wasn't happening but that major restructuring in these bloated pieces of shit was going to happen, and here it is, and considering just how badly Sony and Microsoft are doing financially right now in their gaming divisions, you can expect even more. Let's pray for more than 30000 layoffs by the end of the year and expect even more next year. Bungie for example isn't long for this world.
>>966943 What are you talking about?
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>>966944 It's not just Covid, it's inflation, consumer burnout and diminishing returns in the home console space. GAAS outside the mobile space is also not doing as well as investors expected because they're retards who thought maintaning and keeping interest in something like that would be cheap and easy when Epic, despite all their retarded shit, has competent staff and fucktons of Tencent money. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023%E2%80%932024_video_game_industry_layoffs This isn't going to stop anytime soon, everybody who isn't a tard can see none of these AAA companies are sustainable, investors and executives are trying to push for a mobile game approach to console and PC gaming, completely disregarding the fact that that model only works because mobile games, unlike those, are cheap to make and maintain, with a relatively low amount of employees, so there's little to no loss when they get shut down unlike these massive blockbuster investements. This shit is being built to fall >>966947 What part of my post did you not understand?
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>>966948 >GAAS outside the mobile space is also not doing as well as investors expected because they're retards who thought maintaning and keeping interest in something like that would be cheap and easy when Epic, despite all their retarded shit, has competent staff and fucktons of Tencent money. <Video related >disregarding the fact that that model only works because mobile games, unlike those, are cheap to make and maintain, with a relatively low amount of employees, so there's little to no loss when they get shut down unlike these massive blockbuster investements. Give the HUGE loss that Japanese companies see with their gachi-games failing such as Yoko's 404, I doubt that. >What part of my post did you not understand? The part where you were talking about a Kikpedia article and then never linking it.

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And now for a look at what the industry COULD have been: >This Strip Mahjong Game Saved Capcom From Bankruptcy https://archive.is/d4onx <Capcom is behind some of the most beloved video game titles, from Street Fighter II to Resident Evil. However, both of those games might not even exist today, if it were not for the adult-themed mahjong game named Mahjong Gakuen, which allegedly saved the company from bankruptcy in the late 80s. <This strange piece of video game trivia comes courtesy of a variety of former Capcom sources, including the artist Akira "AKIMAN" Yasuda, who recently took to Twitter to share the story (as spotted by VGDensetsu), and the former producer Yoshiki Okamoto, who was the lead developer on the project. <Okamoto has spoken about the topic twice before on his YouTube channel but decided last week to revisit the subject once again in a new interview with former Capcom programmer Takashi Aoki, who also worked on the title. <According to these various accounts, Capcom was facing bankruptcy towards the end of the 80s, when Okamoto decided to secretly start developing a strip version of mahjong (the tile-based parlor game). When it was finished, Capcom's president Kenzo Tsujimoto refused to release it under the company's banner, with the explicit title eventually being distributed under another publisher named Yuga instead. <As AKIMAN states, the game sold tremendously well for the company. So well, in fact, it outsold Capcom's Ghouls 'n Ghosts, which was also released in 1988. Okamoto even credits it with saving the company from its financial crisis, proving that yes, sex does indeed sell. It should be noted that the game got two sequels, one of which was released the PC-Engine: http://pcengine.co.uk/HTML_Games/Mahjong_Gakuen.htm And rereleased the following year in a censored format: https://www.mobygames.com/game/209795/mahjong-gakuen-mild-toma-soshiro-tojo/
>>959317 Speaking of Take Two, they've shuttered the studio making Kerbal Space Program 2. Originally slated to release in 2020, the game was pushed back years (they're blaming the hoax pandemic) and then only released in Early Access. Despite the teaser trailer showcasing off-world colonies, interstellar engines, and multiple star systems, the game released with less features than the original KSP, and lacked features that KSP had had for the last 8 years (atmospheric heating, etc.). Combined with absolutely ludicrous minimum requirements (2080 minimum) caused by completely retarded coders not knowing how to cull triangles (the entire planet is loaded and rendered despite you never being able to see more than 50% of it at the furthest visible distance) and the return of bugs that had already been fixed for years in the original, the game has completely collapsed since release. Plus the developers refused to communicate with the community. Anyway, Take Two shut down that studio, leaving KSP2 a worthless, unfinished mess. That is still being sold for $50 in Early Access. With no more updates ever again.
>>967018 What a time to be alive!
>>966956 >Give the HUGE loss that Japanese companies see with their gachi-games failing such as Yoko's 404 That's the issue, for a mobile game it's a big loss, for an AAA game, it can tank the whole company. You're seeing it right now, look at Ubisoft.
>>959317 They should just make another tease trailer to GTA 6 with the surviving protagonists from the previous entries, so when the game launches, it reveals that they're getting killed by the obnoxious dyke you're forced to play as. I would love to see many how many of these retarded kids still blindly supporting Cuckstar after shitting on their last redeemable factors.
>>967124 > I would love to see many how many of these retarded kids still blindly supporting Cuckstar All of them, GTA is mostly played by shitskins.
>>967150 Isn't GTA mostly played by normalfags?
>>967287 >normalfags Something deep down snaps when the progs just mock them in front of their faces and rubbing lemon on their open wounds, like in Suicide Squad when Harley killed Batman while shitting on Kevin Conroy's legacy.
>>967287 Even more than that, every hoodrat and third worlder buys it as well due to it's rags from riches criminal stories and being some of the first games localized to third world countries. Kind of a similar situation with Fallout and Half Life which were some of the first localizations to Russia.
>>967287 None of the white normalfags I know who play video games care about GTA. Every single person I've heard talk about it in the last five years as anything other than an example of decline is brown.
It's basically a nigger simulator especially with franklin.
>Focus on making worthless slop made to milk people for years >People get milked by game already so they have no reason to leave <No way to make a profit on launch <No way to even recover anything from the beginning since mathematically it is impossible to upkeep the costs and maintain the playerbase at the same time (((AAA Gaming))) is all money laundering.
>>975069 It's just gearing up to lobby it's way into being propped up on the taxpayer's dollar like everything else anymore. People have been able to make videogames by themselves and sell them without ever needing a studio, consultants, publication services, offices, corporate hierarchy since about the mid 2000's so it is artificially pushed to keep this retarded system going to absolutely no ones benefit.
>>975069 It really is, isn't it? They're applying it to older games as well with Paper Mario and Silent Hill, it's all so tiresome.
>>975076 The studio worked with Bethesda on Rage 2 and their most recent game was Gen Zero, that open world robot one. Also: >By October, more than 100 staffers had joined Unionen, Sweden's largest labour union, in hopes to negotiate better contracts.[58] In the same month, Avalanche Studios Group established a Montreal office through its acquisition of Monster Closet, a studio formed by former Ubisoft developers. >In April 2024 it was announced that the developers had successfully unionized, with Halldórsdóttir open to work along Unionen to implement new frameworks It sounds like the company is cutting some of the staff who unionized maybe. If the new Montreal branch was demanding higher wages, they just cut them out to save money.
>>975090 Ah, that makes sense then.
>>966943 >Bungie for example isn't long for this world. They need the Final shape to sell and I honestly don't think it will.
>>975123 It's top selling on Steam Normalfags are braindead anon
>>966948 >What part of my post did you not understand? I personally didn't know what article you were referring to in >>966943
>>940732 This is a good thing
>>975243 Yeah, that was my bad, forgot to attach the link in the first post, which was my original intent.
>Gamer's World | Mourning the Loss of Tango Gameworks, Developer of Evil Within and Hi-Fi Rush https://archive.ph/EQ6SS
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Helldivers 2 sold 12 million copies, 1 million of that was on the PS5: https://archive.ph/hsvoy >PlayStation games have sold over 17 million copies on Steam since 2020, VG Insights reported. Including Helldivers 2 (published by Sony, but Arrowhead is not its first-party studio), the total is over 28 million units. 28 - 17 = 11 >Helldivers 2 is definitely the company’s most successful PC release — not least thanks to its simultaneous release on Steam and PS5. Sony recently announced that the game had sold over 12 million units globally as of May 5. 12 - 11 = 1
>>966931 Nope never forgiven Forgiven is a megaman, X, Z,ZX game that isnt shit.
>>979919 Good Legends 3 would also be forgivable action IMO.
>>979998 Cant believe i forgot legends
>>979808 Damn. I knew PS5 software sales were garbage, but I didn't realize they were that garbage.
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>>971808 IT CANT EVEN DO NIGGER SIMULATOR RIGHT, it's the lukewarmest impression of hood life with only one gang shootout before forgetting it completely. GTA 5 is truly a step down in every single way compared to its predecessors. If i want a true and fun nigger simulator, i'd replay San Andreas again
>>980029 It's joever for all PIS5 apologists who "edge" their mutilated genitalia at the piece of shit that doesn't do the goddamn thing supposed to do, however that won't stop saturating their credit cards.
Doesn't GTA Online make over half a billion dollars a year just in microtransactions?
>>979808 When the Epic documents came out, I think it said that around 10-20% of PS5 owners play literally nothing besides Call of Duty. Even Sony's first party titles can't compete
>>980981 Could you just fucking kill yourself already? Or post the doxx of your boss so it can be killed to free you from your job.
>>980982 Fifa is like that too honestly
>>980982 Essentially, causing a "gaming crash" amounts to kicking out the beta orbiter jocks and the women, so nothing new. Soyny bit the bullet so bad they caused Japan to reembrace its love of PC gaming. As a side note, Microshit killed the company in one fell swoop by buying ABK, there's a reason the buyout caused the rainbowhairs to shit the bed noisily.
>>981126 The gameplay is kind of shit but the atmosphere and 1990s anime style is extremely comfy and nostalgic
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https://archive.ph/Yl8XK >Multiple Assassin’s Creed remakes are on the way, Ubisoft CEO confirms <A REPORT LAST YEAR CLAIMED THAT BLACK FLAG WAS BEING REMADE What's the point of these new consoles if I'm going to be playing the same damn games that I already own?!?
>>984406 Buy it again, goy.
>>984406 You're obviously supposed to feel immense pleasure from the fact of buying, not from the fact of playing. What are you, not conditioned enough?
>>984406 Isn't AC infamous for just being a straight, downward, line down in quality since II and its spinoffs? Only other series I'm aware of going straight down for 4+ games is Mega Man X, and that started way higher than "OK"
>>980982 Anons would be shocked how many adult gamers play nothing but sports, Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto. Do me a favor, go to YouTube and search for "GTA". It will always come back with the most brainless normalfag slop and there will be enormous quantities of it. I'm serious, go try it, you'll see entire channels dedicated to just GTA videos with decent views. Try watch one and see what they're like.
>>984406 >ever caring about anything ubishit
>>984540 Mega Man X didn't even really go straight down for four games. 5, 6, 7, and 8 are pretty straight down, but there was Xreme 2 in between 5 and 6. Combo breaker. That game is pretty good. Better than X5, at least.
>>984595 >ever caring about anything
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>>940836 I'll never forgive them for both of those uglyass idols in Splatoon, I have to deal with ugly loud arrogant blacks all day at work, I don't want to even see them in my videogames as well
>>984554 I can back this up, for work I have to deal with a companies onboarding team, and you'd be surprised how many normalfags play games. It's almost entirely what you said there, sports and the currently popular shootershit.
>>941467 good shit
>>940836 Well, they at least send C&D warnings to everyone without any politic intention but to get rid of the unexpected competition so they can sell their rehashed games and halfassed remakes for 60 USD each. CHECKMATE
>>984600 I was thinking 2>3>4>5>6>7 and didn't count Xtreme as a spinoff.
I was looking for something else, and found a forum post from 2018 about how "My PS4 Life" (then new Sony's PS4 social media thing) accidentally gave the public clear numbers about how many people had actually played most PS4 games. This was also when SteamSpy was considered pretty accurate since Valve hadn't yet made profiles (and thus ownership) private by default. While the site (gamestat) that ran the PS4 numbers is now gone (as is the Sony social media thing they were based on) and SteamSpy isn't really a working thing anymore, the postings indicate that even 6 years ago PC software was outselling PS4 by a significant margin, even when PS4 was likely double counting a lot of players from shared consoles. The only games that had more PS4 players than PC players were delayed ports, region locked ports, Denuvo ports, games with major GoG presence (Witcher 3), and/or games given away to PS+ subscribers. Only one that wasn't in those categories was No Man's Sky (the original release where they lied about having multiplayer and had to slap a sticker on the box to cover up the fact that it said multiplayer), which sold super well on consoles somehow. Consoles are already dead. If there's a next generation of non-portable console, it's for people who use it as a Madden+CoD box and nothing else, and they barely going to pretend there's any other games made for them.
>>985265 >PS4 was likely double counting a lot of players from shared consoles. This is a really common trick, actually. Companies do it all the time in their "MAU" (monthly active user) reports. A user isn't defined as a person per se, it's an account or device. A person with three accounts connecting over two devices may count as six users. It makes MAUs a worthless statistic. >Consoles are already dead This, however, is stupid and purely wishful thinking.
>>985269 He's not wrong, home consoles are going the way of the dodo.
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>>940732 (OP) >Gearbox being sold off or going private after splitting off from Embracer like Saber just did That's more of a symptom of the mismanagement of Embracer than the poor state of the vidya industry in the west. They took on far too much debt and have been scrambling to deal with it during the increased interest rate environment in Sweden. Had to make lots of rough choices, and their stock price has plummeted. The company is also pretty woke and unable to make good games, which isn't helping. Though, In general, all over the west, vidya companies are suffering due to competition with eastern companies that, unlike them, are happy to put cute girls and even hebe waifu-bait in their games.
>>985275 Nipponese people finally abandoning snoystation is great for the industry. Very well-deserved too.
>>984406 Remember a few months back when the CEO,or former one I forgot, had this "out of the blue" idea "while playing" that gamers should tip the devs
>>985265 Don't forget the oldest lie in the industry: >"muh fastest selling game" Which is always proven to be a lie, with manipulated numbers used to deceive retards/investors. >Consoles are already dead Yes.
600 LAYOFFS AT XBOX
>>1015373 Old news at this point but yeah, 650 to be precise.
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>>985265 >If there's a next generation of non-portable console, it's for people who use it as a Madden+CoD box and nothing else, and they barely going to pretend there's any other games made for them. Microsoft is going to unironically make Steam Machines next generation. Phil has already primed the pump by saying he wants third party storefronts on the Xbox, and Proton is a potential threat to their PC OS dominance that they'd be willing to throw obscene amounts of money at to protect. This whole generation is a wash for them, and they've largely given up - focusing instead on building up their GamePass stable while Sony chokes itself to death on Davos approved AAAgay development. I fully expect them to extend their "Xbox" front-end to Windows 11 (or 12), including Xbox backwards compatibility - but only the "Xbox Brand" will have supported hardware profiles for developers to target. Steam probably won't have "Xbox Optimized" settings applied automatically, because why the fuck would they care, giving Microsoft a hook to shill Windows Store "Xbox branded" versions as the best versions which their HTPCs will default to on the front-end. Desktop mode, like the Steam Deck, will be a separate mode you have to toggle, like the Steam Deck. They will, also, have it running completely sandboxed and make heavy use of the "snapshot" spyware to allow retards to easily roll back to a previous state in case they fuck something up (and also to harvest data from).
>>1015383 I'll believe it when I see it.
After space marine 2 and pic related, i take back what i said, maybe there is hope for Revanquest after all.
>>1015434 Forgot the other dev popping up.
>>1015434 Link to vid?
>>1015373 2550 at activision blizzard ordained by microsoft.
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>>1015570 The stockholders must be rejoicing. Nothing drives up stock prices like layoffs and liquidations.
>>1015434 Understand this once and for all: all western companies and studios are shit and will never be good again (of those that were at least decent at some point). Is the game made by a western company or studio? Then it is automatically shit, no matter how much (((potential))) or other buzzwords shills spread.
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>>1015577 no amount of blackpill will ever defeat my hope, and that hope has been validated before
>>1015586 What's the spacebat meme about?
>>1015616 www.google.com
>>1015616 Covid
>>1015577 (You) have no power here.
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Netflix closes AAA game studio before it ever released a game https://archive.vn/kZgnV <The first cracks are starting to show in Netflix’s push into gaming. First reported in Game File and confirmed by Netflix, the streaming company has quietly closed of one of its studios, the first in the three years since the company began its foray into gaming. <According to Game File, the shuttered studio was known as Blue. In 2022, Netflix announced it hired former Overwatch executive producer Chacko Sonny to run the studio. Since then, Blue had brought on a number of game industry veterans with experience working on high profile franchises including Halo and God of War. Reportedly, Blue was developing a multi-platform AAA game for an original IP but was closed before the game could be announced or released. <Netflix has released a steady stream of games on its platform since the beginning of its gaming experiment in 2021. Though it started with a small handful of hyper-casual mobile games, Netflix’s offerings have expanded to include mobile exclusive ports of iconic games like Grand Theft Auto and Hades its own internally developed exclusives like Cozy Grove: Camp Spirit and Oxenfree II: Lost Signals. <Netflix has also acquired or spun-up a number of studios to support its gaming pipeline. The most recent additions were a mobile game studio in Helsinki, a new studio in southern California, and Cozy Grove developer Spry Fox. But with the closure of Blue, Netflix’s trend of expansion may be over as well as its grander AAA ambitions.
>>1015574 Imagine how productive the economy will be when we lay off 100% of all workers!
>>1031153 It would be hilarious if it wasn't a proven fact that video games became money laundering schemes. Someone got funding for this, stole the money, and declared "expenses" with the studio in order to cover the theft.
>>1031153 Bet concord failure plays a part in this
>>940754 >Pic Sauce on the anime desu
>>1031198 Kakumeiki Valvrave/Valvrave the Liberator
>>947819 With how fucked shit is currently, do you honestly think that will happen? That will kick off a riot at this point, considering people are already hurting due to the economy. Making it worse will only make people more pissed off, as the old saying goes, a civilization is always three meals away from a revolution. Bread is too fucking expensive, and the circuses are fucking ruined. Whole thing is primed for a boogaloo across the planet at this point.
>>1031208 No one is truly hurting due to the economy, people are still spending all of their income on taylor swift tickets. The world isn't as bad as the internet makes it out to be, though I really wish it was.
>>1031169 That's embezzlement, not money laundering.
>>1031209 >people are still spending all of their income on taylor swift tickets. Countries in the middle of Civil Wars always have people who still go about their daily lives like there's no difference in the world.
>>1031226 Nigeria has been in several low-level civil wars for 15 years (Islamist insurgencies and the bandit conflicts). If you were to go to Ibadan or Port Harcourt you'd never know that. If you've ever met a Nigerian they probably haven't even talked about the conflicts. Beyond everybody being used to them, they don't actually impact the average person's life much unless you live in an active conflict zone like Zamfara. Most people form their concept a civil war through pop culture and personal anxieties, with little context to the reality of them. I remember a story about the Balkan wars, where people would scurry behind patrolling APCs on their way home from grocery shopping.
>>1031226 Also, people in the middle of an economic collapse consume entertainment even more rapidly than they did during booms. It's why the Golden Age of Hollywood ran through the Great Depression.
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>>1031253 I think it all depends on 2 things. Need and free time. If a need is satisfied then the person will not search out a new thing. If Greg has piss beer n1 that he has been drinking his entire life and nothing changes about the beer then Greg will likely continue to drink piss beer for eternity. Normalfag are satisfied with tik tok and phone gatcha, some of the hardcore nerds among them play League of Legends. I'm starting to think that normalfags have been pushed into their own corner of the market that doesn't include even the sloppiest of slop like Asscreed. So its an effective gap where normalfags eat shit and "gamers" play shit that is more acceptable like Spess Marine 2 and in between is all the shit that is crashing and burning this year. Free time, people want to play games and if they have 40 min of free time a day then gatcha is enough got them. But give them enough time and they start getting bored. During the depression there were a lot more likely people who were jobless so they had to fill their time somehow. In my opinion probably one of the biggest sins of modern society is the lack of free time. It effect creativity, moral and even birth rates. I remember reading that during covid Japan's birth rate significantly increased.
>>1031153 fucking how? I know you gotta cut your losses but what the fuck did they even do?
>>1031262 >one of the biggest sins of modern society is the lack of free time. It effect creativity If you're a wageslave maybe, most of the "creative" types, of which there are fucking tons on the internet, seem to have too much free time these days. I personally have started to burnout on pop culture and being on the internet all the time, but there's nothing for me outside either so I'm just stuck wasting time until I get approached by an opportunity, might as well be with the shit I'm familiar with.
>>1031288 Seems like you need an autistic time sink.
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>>1031270 Going by this graphic they probably hired to many retards
>>1031209 >It won't happen Until it does.
>>1031304 It even says "one time expenses," so unless you know what those are you can't really use that as evidence of much.
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>>1031304 These are the only games they released in that year As well as To be announced games >>1031329 It says one time outsourcing expenses was eliminated for 2022
>>1031262 I don't know that normalfags even exist anymore. Pop culture is effectively dead, so everyone fits into one little sub-genre of consumption or another. Hell, popular music now is just old stuff from the eighties and aughts. I don't even mean covers or rip-offs of old stuff; it's just the actual old stuff. Every old movie property gets rebooted. TV shows get brought back, sometimes with the original cast. Video games get new installments every other year until they are nothing but shambling zombie corpses. Pop is literally just reruns. Who is buying that?
>>1031377 There's a music critic I was reading who said the idea of a #1 is basically dead. He made a really great point: What's the #1 song right now? You probably don't know, nor have you known many #1 songs of the last few years. Right now it's this, a song you've probably never heard by an artist you've probably don't know. It sounds like that country-pop-rap blend that every song on the radio turned into. And that's not even to say that good music isn't being made anymore, in fact there's a huge amount of good music being made and it's easier to find than ever. That's probably why a #1 hit is culturally meaningless now, everybody is too busy listening to their own curated little playlists and favorite artists to care what's 'big'.
>>1031503 Kek, when I heard the music I instantly knew the singing would be mumble shit with that exact style of voice.
>>1031503 >a simple chord progression that has been done in blues music a hundred-thousand times in the past hundred years >vapid lyrics about going to a club and getting drunk >remarkable only in its familiarity Reruns... it's all reruns. Seen it, taped it, got tired of it thirty years ago.
>>1031503 >>1031518 The funny thing is that even nigger rap moved beyond this shit 20 years ago.
>>1031377 >>1031503 We're still in transintion phase that keeps being dragged along due to power/financial retention and higher age expectancy, where a bunch of out of touch Boomers and Gen Xers are still calling the shots while living in a post Old Media world.
>>1031503 >Indie folk country with mumble rap mixed in Straight out of hell
>>1031503 >That's probably why a #1 hit is culturally meaningless now, everybody is too busy listening to their own curated little playlists and favorite artists to care what's 'big'. That is a good thing though. The "number one" song is not determined by corporations paying for shilling anymore. Every individual has his own selection and rank of songs. No more centralized shilling nor public opinion manipulation.
>>1031528 Arguably yes, thanks to shit like spotify or soundcloud, people look for the stuff they are interested in and find son they like on their own + algorythm, instead of whatever the radio stations are playing.
>>1031533 The problem with the radio and a lot of these services is that there's too many damn commercials.
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Sony President, COO and CFO Hiroki Totoki says the PS5 Pro pricing has not had a negative impact and that it is aimed at hardcore users #PS5Pro >"Hardcore users are the target of this hardware" >"In terms of the pricing many people made different comments on that, but pricing on PS5 pro has not had a negative impact I don't think." https://archive.ph/ir1Cb https://xcancel.com/Genki_JPN/status/1854839684054368505 Are you a bad enough dude to own a PS5 Pro?


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