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Help perfecting a plan to increase female sex drive Anonymous 04/05/2025 (Sat) 21:40:30 No. 470846 >>470847 >>470849 >>470851 >>470870 >>470908 >>470966 >>473120 >>473725

After many years, I'm finally at the point where I can get girls. Not easily, but I can do it. But one problem is that I can't get any that have as high a sex drive as I want (which, to be fair, is very high). I want them to initiate sex more. And it's not that I have a tiny dick or whatever. In fact sometimes it's too big and I get complaints about that. But women almost never initiate, they like to play coy and have the man initiate everything. I don't like that and want to change it. A basic idea seems obvious... >Step 1: Obtain addictive substance >Step 2: Find way to discreetly deliver substance to her immediately before/after/during sex. >Step 3: Ideally find way to get substance in her without also taking it myself. >Step 4: Do this regularly until she develops pavlovian addiction to my dick instead of the actual substance. But there a few issues that require further development. >Substance Which substance would be ideal for this? Factors include efficacy, but also side effects, price, ease to obtain, and ease of (discreet) use. I'm a teetotaller myself, so I have very little knowledge in this field. My first thought is nicotine. It's well known for being addictive, it's legal and easily obtained, and I've heard you can buy it in various different forms, including liquid and mist, including stuff made so that you can make your own vapes with it. I've also heard that nicotine isn't actually that harmful aside from the addictive properties, and it's the other stuff in cigarettes and other common forms of nicotine consumption that are the real problem. However, doing some research, the internet tells me nicotine does have many other negative effects (though it says this while at the same time saying that nicotine gum and patches are not harmful, since it's the other stuff in cigarettes that's bad). A quick Google search found one study from some journal in which they gave non-smoking young women nicotine and then had them watch porn while measuring vaginal response, and also surveyed them about their perceived arousal. Their surveyed responses were the same as the control group, but their vaginal response was lower. This is a concern for my purposes. However, while I am a layman, the sample size was only like 25 women, and that seems pretty low. So I come here to ask you degenerates if these issues with nicotine are really problems, if there are more problems I should be aware of, and if there are any other substances which may suit this purpose more effectively. >How to deliver substance At first thought, this seems easy, but upon further thought, it might be a bit tricky. On the one hand, I'm already putting something inside them. On the other hand, there must be practically no chance of getting caught. There is also the issue of how to deliver it to encourage both vaginal and oral sex. And at the same time, I want to make sure I'm not ingesting it, or at least am taking a much smaller dose. >what form of substance is best? Liquid? Solid? Powder? Gel? One thought I had is putting liquid on those little dissolvable papers. I don't know where to get them, but it's doable, right? Anyone ever have those little Listerine breath freshner things that are kind of like what I'm describing? Do they still make those? I don't do drugs, so they're the closest I can think of. Are they made of paper? Where would I get these papers? Would I be able to get the right dose on a piece of dissolvable paper? How do I get this paper without the cops thinking I'm using it for acid or something? Are they (or a workable equivalent) ever used for arts and crafts or something like that? Is there a name for this substance I should use other than "dissolvable paper?" >Delivery Option 1: Foreskin One thought I've had is to sneak the substance under my foreskin. Would work for vaginal sex when she is in a more passive position, which is what most women do the majority of the time anyway. Of course, if my plan works, she might not be as passive anymore, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Either way, this method would have several dangers. I have to imagine I'd be getting a pretty significant dose if I put a substance like this right under my foreskin. If I'm having thoughts like this, I'm already addicted enough as it is. And again, what form of substance is best? I had a big section on different options here, but I deleted it as it brought be to an idea. The dissolvable paper I mentioned in the previous section. That would be easy to sneak under my foreskin, or between my fingers (which I could then insert without her seeing if I go down on her, but sometimes they just want dick and don't want me going down on them). I could even leave a couple little papers around the house, in a couple of easy to access places, and if people see them, they'll just think they're tiny pieces of litter, small enough to escape my notice. But I'd have to get the papers, and add the substance myself. It might be tricky. And would vaginal lubricant dissolve it and make it activate? Probably, right? It would need to dissolve fast enough that she could never notice it (it can't come out after sex), but slow enough that I can jam it deep in there before it really starts dissolving. The deeper I can get it before it starts, the less of it will touch me, which seems advantageous. >Delivery Option 2: Lube Another obvious option is to sneak the substance in by mixing it with lube. This sounds like it would be relatively easy. Just get a liquid and mix it in. I've never actually used lube before, never really understood the need, but I figure if I suggested it to a girl, in the heat of the moment, she might be okay with it. If I use a condom, I'd also be completely protected from the substance, though of course I don't want to use a condom if I can help it. But this highlights the downside. Without a condom, I'd be fully exposed to the substance. I figure the girl would end up absorbing more of it than I would, but the less of it I absorb, the better. Plus, as mentioned before, if it starts to work and she starts to initiate things, she would eventually find it stupid to stop and get lube. I already find it stupid, and wouldn't do it if not for this plan. >Other delivery options? Both main options I've thought of so far have problems. Any further ideas are welcomed. >How to deliver the substance during blowjobs Blowjobs aren't as good as pussy, so I could be satisfied with just making her addicted to actual fucking, but I do like the idea of her just loving to suck my dick, so if I could get her addicted to blowjobs in addition to fucking, then that would be even better. But her face is involved here, so getting her to take the substance without noticing, right at the proper time, seems more difficult. She would obviously notice any solids under my foreskin, and there wouldn't be a reason to use lube here. So what to do? >Option One: Mix the substance into whipped cream or something and put it on my dick I could pass this off as a playful sexy thing, but making it a regular thing would be difficult, and the regularity is important here. Especially if it starts to work and she starts to initiate things. >Option Two: Putting it in food/drink given discreetly before/during blowjob. Seems obvious, but fraught with problems. 1) Girls are already told to watch out for things like this. 2) How are you gonna get it into the food/drink and then also get her to have the food/drink immediately before/during the act? Secretly putting it in a drink that she has right before might be possible, but how do make her drink it at the right time, and how to do that regularly? >Option Z: Just tell her the substance is something else, like an aphrodisiac. I'll mention this option, which could theoretically work for both fucking and sucking, but I don't actually think it would be a very good idea. It involves convincing, which might be hard. I've never met any girls that want to take an aphrodisiac, and nobody believes in female aphrodisiacs anyway (except for money). I could even mix the substance into another one easy to pass off as something to take before sex, but again, getting them to take any substance right at that time, on purpose, seems hard. >How to make her addicted not just to sucking/fucking, but to cum? The next step would be to have them specifically addicted to my cum, and not just the act of sex. I would find that hotter, and it would result in her initiating sex either way, but now wanting the product and not just the process. Not really sure how to do that beyond noticing her high sex drive, due to previous actions, and suggesting that maybe her body just naturally craves my cum, since of course that would be a female instinct. Maybe then I could say "hey, since you like it so much, I'll save it for you when you're not here, so you can drink it all when you're back from work or whatever." Then I collect it in a cup and mix the addictive substance with it. Maybe it would be easier to introduce her to the idea if I gave it to her as a topping or mix with a food or drink, of course after it's already been mixed with the chosen substance. Or maybe the food or drink already has the substance, and then she watches me add the cum. She'd never expect that it actually has anything else in it. Eventually she should actually start physically craving the cum.

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The above plan would probably make her want blowjobs more, but I'd still have the problem of needing to give her the actual dose right before/during/after the blowjob, so that she gets the fix but thinks it's due to the cum. That problem seems like the hardest to figure out. Perhaps once the addiction is in full swing, I'd very slowly start weening her off of the doses, hopefully transferring the addiction to the act and not the substance. That might be risky, but women leave me anyway, so oh well. Opinions on if this part of the plan would work? This whole plan seems promising, but I know there are kinks I need to work out before I move forward with it. Advice welcome. I know this might have problems, like girls getting too clingy, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Dumb scientists have spent decades trying to invent a female aphrodisiac, but all they really need to do is induce a pavolvian response to dick. They just need to think outside the box, if you'll excuse my pun. >TL;DR: <How to get addictive substance in a girl right before we fuck (or she blows me), regularly enough that she becomes addicted to my dick? <Is nicotine the best substance for this? I need something cheap, easy to obtain, with minimal side effects. <Is the best method to get some of those dissolvable papers and get the chosen substance on them, then insert them in her vagina right before/as we bone? This sounds doable, but other options might be better. <How to also get her to take it before/during blowjobs? This seems harder since it's right in her face and thus more obvious. <How to make sure I don't take much/any of the substance? I'm clearly too addicted to pussy as it is. <How to make her addicted not just to fucking and sucking me, but to ingesting my semen? My current thought is by suggestion after we both notice her higher drive, then giving her semen pre-mixed with the substance. Is there a better way? Not that I'd actually do any of this, of course. The posts made on this site are autistic works of fiction and falsehood. Nobody should take anything posted here as fact. Just a fantasy. But one that I'd like to make very realistic and specific.

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Isis 04/05/2025 (Sat) 22:12:40 No. 470847 >>470855

>>470846 (OP) have you tried being affectionate with them

>>470855

Anonymous 04/05/2025 (Sat) 23:30:16 No. 470849 >>470855

>>470846 (OP) Congrats you figured out how to be a pimp. Use cocaine like everyone else. Within a month she'll fuck anyone for chump change.

>>470855

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 00:15:39 No. 470851 >>470855

>>470846 (OP) Women don't have high sex drives, it would have been evolutionary disadvantage, you get them addicted to fentanyl, then they fuck you for fentanyl

>>470855

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 01:13:21 No. 470855 >>470856 >>470857 >>470860

>>470847 Yes. It results in them wanting to do emotional bullshit instead. Which I'd be fine with if it was also sexy. Affection isn't what gets them in a sexy mood. Being sexy is. But I'm limited by genes and money in that regard. I want to surpass my limits and go even further beyond. >>470849 >>470851 No, you're both missing the whole point. The point is that they have to want it, not want something that they can get in exchange for it. That's what women already do. Prostitutes don't want sex, they want money. I want to train my girl to crave sex, not money, more than I do. And specifically from me. I've met some girls with pretty high sex drives, but they're sluts. But if I can give them the substance only when they do it with me, that should theoretically sidestep that issue, and make them only want it from me. I'm sure I can convince them it's because we're soulmates or whatever. Girls are stupid and go for that fantasy stuff.

>>470856 >>470857 >>470860

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 02:08:41 No. 470856

>>470855 >>470855 > That's what women already do. Prostitutes don't want sex, they want money. Man you're so close

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 02:53:51 No. 470857 >>470858 >>470898

>>470855 >The point is that they have to want it Well find a portal to another universe where women evolved like that, then tell me where it is, then jump through it

>>470858 >>470898

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 02:57:40 No. 470858

>>470857 You could also rape them, they want to be raped as it makes her feel desirable and make her think you are worthy by virtue of being able to overpower her

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 05:09:43 No. 470860 >>470898

>>470855 Yeah mind games are gonna be important in your new life as a pimp, get used to lying to yourself and others, "love" is a classic control method for whores, your on the right track.

>>470898

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 10:48:46 No. 470870 >>470898

>>470846 (OP) Why should anyone help increasing whores? Abandon them all instead.

>>470898

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 22:39:47 No. 470898 >>470904 >>470905 >>470909 >>470912

>>470857 I think my idea of pavlovian conditioning with secret nicotine is more possible. Just a few details need to be worked out. >>470860 I don't understand how you got pimping out of what I'm saying. Not only is the goal to make them want sex from me specifically, but every pimp knows you don't get high on your own supply. >>470870 No, this would stop them from whoring. It would decrease hypergamy as they'd think that they can only get their high from one particular dick.

>>470904 >>470905 >>470909 >>470912

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 23:22:15 No. 470904 >>470931

>>470898 >absorbs too much nicotine through his balls and dies Okay op, do it

>>470931

Anonymous 04/06/2025 (Sun) 23:29:04 No. 470905 >>470931

>>470898 Because unlike you im not wearing rose tinted glasses. You are talking about the steps to pimp a bitch out, your just pussy footing around because the morality frightens you, naw man. You trying to reinvent a field, that an entire armies worth of lads smarter than you already spent billions of accumulative life times perfecting, if you was honest with yourself you'd of seen the intense arrogance and hubris it takes to think you can do it better than they did. Stop making life more difficult for yourself. It starts with honesty.

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:03:21 No. 470908 >>470931

>>470846 (OP) >pavlovian conditioning sex drive you dont need drugs if you know how to do sex properly. drugs merely alter levels of chemicals and hormones in the brain, said chemicals are released without drugs. if you need to give a hoe mdma to get her horny, then the problem is your disgusting ass. https://archive.org/download/norito-asaduki-ren-arisugawa-is-actually-a-girl-ch.-1-81-english/[ratatatat74]%20tomboy%20sister%20bully%20netorare%20[English]/ this book illustrates what i mean if your dick game is good enough, she will return, unless theres something medically wrong with her.

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:11:15 No. 470909 >>470910 >>470931

>>470898 pavlovian conditioning is very simple, theres nothing to workout. nicotine is a nootropic/stimulant, but constant use or too much desensitises. honestly you should just work on yourself and get good enough at sex because slapping a nico patch on their back during sex wont do shit, they will just as easily fuck the next dude that gives them second hand smoke. same with other drugs. your dick game has to be peak to get more than just dopamine. for example nipple stimulation releases oxytocin. learn the most sensitive body parts, like the lips and fingers, as well as the most pleasurable ones. just git gud because there are no shortcuts and youll end up with an unfaithful junky

>>470910 >>470931

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:13:37 No. 470910 >>470913

>>470909 Aka a whore

>>470913

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:20:32 No. 470912 >>470931

>>470898 >high from one particular dick look, man, ive been thinking of world domination since i was an isolated incel loser at 12 years old, and thats not how neurochemistry works. theres more than just dopamine. if she associates your dick with nicotine buzz, she will associate any man smoking with sex and be more likely to fuck him. IF YOUR DICK ISNT GOOD ENOUGH IT WONT WORK SO LEVEL UP. with drugs youd have more luck doing shrooms with her and convincing her you are her soul mate tbh. otherwise just be like any other drug dealer and fuck your unloyal clients. but also if you still wanna try this maybe look into ghb (not sure) + weed. mdma is also known to increase libido. no need to be subtle just ask her if she wants a hit. fucking coward.

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:21:41 No. 470913 >>470914

>>470910 yes, retard, thats what i said.

>>470914

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:27:52 No. 470914 >>470916

>>470913 Don't be an asshole bro, we both see things the same way, and are both trying to explain to OP in simple terms why hes conceptualizing the problem incorrectly. My route is explaining the outcome of what he is trying, yours is explaining the neurochemistry. But simply taking different tacks is no reason to disagree, or be rude.

>>470916

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:29:51 No. 470915 >>470931

Hey if this gets kidnapping and developing a new type of lobotomy that makes her physically addicted to you, publish findings here please

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:32:19 No. 470916 >>470919

>>470914 well im confused as to why you replied with that.

>>470919

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:45:56 No. 470917 >>470918 >>470931

unless yours is exceptionally big or small, most dicks feel the same, so there is no reason to assume she will anchor to yours as unique to you. you need to find something unique about yourself to be the anchor. apparently pheromones exist for humans, and there are some things backing that up (like the trope of a gf liking the smell of her bfs hoodie). but you can also make up a specific kind of touch signal on sensitive part to signal. the most sensitive parts are fingertips lips and mouth tongue ears these ones are blank and can be associated with chemical releasing areas such as breasts clitoris gspot you can pick a specific phrase like the dude from bioshock. "good girl" is a common one, it can not only be associated with pleasure, but can reinforce the behavior by praising it, a secondary reward of acknowledgement. you can see how such a phrase delivered close to a sensitive place like the ear similar to asmr, can be linked to other US.

>>470918 >>470931

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:47:43 No. 470918 >>470926

>>470917 Yeah try to find a hot cousin, look around for 3rds

>>470926

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:49:05 No. 470919 >>470931

>>470916 Because your point agrees with my point, a point I am making by referencing the conversation back to what I had told OP, he is trying to be a pimp, when he should just be a man.

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 00:59:34 No. 470920 >>470931

the eyes are powerful. this drifts from what i know scientifically but the occult places significance on them, (third eye, window to the soul etc) eye fixation is a trance technique, and some occult ideas say that those with magical powers have a certain glare. staring into eachothers eyes makes the other vulnerable, they either have to look away or focus on you. cops use staring and unblinking in interrogations. of course, youre unique eyes and face can serve as another anchor to whatever experience is simultaneously happening. you ever see porn where they are really into it and staring at eachother (missionary)?

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:15:40 No. 470921 >>470931

oxytocin is the chemical of bonding. it is released during sex and at orgasm. it is notably released by nipple stimulation. >"In a study measuring oxytocin serum levels in women before and after sexual stimulation, the author suggests it serves an important role in sexual arousal. This study found genital tract stimulation resulted in increased oxytocin immediately after orgasm." it also happens at childbirth which may cause the parents to bond with each other and not just the baby, ensuring a stable family unit. dopamine is a motivational hormone that enables you to better learn how to avoid or move towards an event. it helps you learn what you did right or wrong to get the desired result (i think). >uhh guis how do i increase the female sex drive you fucking touch their fuck parts. the sex parts. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16681470/

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:27:16 No. 470922 >>470931

i may sound hostile but really this shit interests me, i just cant absorb, map it efficiently. there are infinite possibilities when it comes to the brain, even more than just sex. lets research and develop some stuff orochimaru style https://www.cbsnews.com/news/surprise-finding-in-response-to-nipple-stimulation/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3186818/ (basically if you give a hoe some good ol baby making sex, and she isnt on mind altering medication, and your dick isnt literally one inch, you can have a loyal waifu who gives you plenty of sex)

>>470931

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:39:02 No. 470923 >>470925

Now this is a new schizo thread

>>470925

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:41:40 No. 470924 >>470931

there is another trope concerning horror movies. i think it is because the bring you into a more primal mind state, and release a lot of brain chemicals. thats why going on a date to one is common. fear, sex, and aggression are the most powerful and innate emotions there are which explains why some people like it rough.

>>470931

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:43:03 No. 470925 >>470927

>>470923 >cant understand something >label it schizo a tale as old as time.

>>470927

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:45:51 No. 470926 >>470976

>>470918 how was that relevant to my post in any way at all?

>>470976

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 01:55:25 No. 470927 >>470930

>>470925 I mean to be fair, you are namefagging like a newfag.

>>470930

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 02:25:34 No. 470930

>>470927 thats something a newfag would say.

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 02:42:30 No. 470931 >>470933 >>470935 >>470939 >>470944

>>470904 See this is one of the dangers I was concerned about, hence bringing it to this thread. Thank you for at least referencing a point that seems legitimate. >>470905 >Because unlike you im not wearing rose tinted glasses. That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means. >You are talking about the steps to pimp a bitch out, your just pussy footing around because the morality frightens you, Morality? Clearly that's not at play here. Pimps don't fuck their bitches, and even if they do, their bitches fuck other dudes. That isn't appealing. Well, maybe to you. Also, you're again ignoring the point that the real point here is getting the bitches to want the dick, not want something they can get in exchange for sex. Just saying "fuck me for coke" doesn't make them want to fuck more. It just makes them want coke more, and fucking is one way to get it. >>470908 >you dont need drugs if you know how to do sex properly. drugs merely alter levels of chemicals and hormones in the brain, said chemicals are released without drugs. You're of course right, but there is a limit. The real trick is trying to make them hornier than me, and that is quite a lot. Look, in order to get to this point, I had to already get a decent amount of regular sex. But I don't want a decent amount. I can get girls to agree to it somewhat easily (honestly, with modern sluts, the harder part is getting them to meet in the first place. Once they do, sex is expected). The problem is that I want them to be more assertive and aggressive about it. I'm not the type of guy who likes how they play coy and hint about it. >if you need to give a hoe mdma to get her horny, then the problem is your disgusting ass. No no no, you're missing the point. The point isn't to get them high, that's just a side effect, and I'd prefer to avoid side effects. But I've been clear on the point already. >this book I see the word "netorare" in the URL. I ain't clicking that shit. >if your dick game is good enough, she will return, unless theres something medically wrong with her. Again, they do return. I don't want to brag, because it won't be believed anyway, but honestly that's the one part of me they seem to like. It's the personality of someone that uses this site that really turns them off. But none of that is the point. I don't just want one that will fuck all day. I want one that will actively pursue it from me, rather than waiting for me to do it, or playing coy and just hinting. I've gotten girls even occasionally outright ask to come over for a booty call, but not with the intensity that I want. Look, all this feminine whining about "just have a good dick" is sidestepping the actual point. Just raise actual technical issues. That's what's important here. I'm sure there are some, but with brainstorming, we could come upon a breakthrough for Anons everywhere. This isn't just for me, this is for all of us. >>470909 >pavlovian conditioning is very simple, theres nothing to workout. Well obviously there is. What substance, how to administer, how to avoid other dangers, etc. >nicotine is a nootropic/stimulant, but constant use or too much desensitises. Sure, but didn't Pavlov get to the point where he could just ring the bell and the dogs would salivate as if there was food in front of them? It's like that, but the food is nicotine and the bell is dick. >honestly you should just work on yourself and get good enough at sex Yes yes, we've been over this. I was expecting much less feminine answers from this board, of all places. >slapping a nico patch on their back during sex wont do shit, they will just as easily fuck the next dude that gives them second hand smoke. Now this sounds like an interesting point and the type of point that made me make this thread. Perhaps you have a point here. Does second hand smoke have enough nicotine to do that? I mean I was around plenty as a kid (perhaps explains a lot) but I never grew to crave it. The smell itself is a big enough turn off. And honestly I don't smell nearly as much second hand smoke out in public as I used to. However, still sounds like a valid concern to at least consider. Would the substance have that response if the user thought the actual craving was due to something else? You wouldn't know to go look for nicotine, and how often are you exposed to it accidentally? That said, perhaps another substance would work better for reasons like this. Not sure. Nicotine was just the first that came to mind. >for example nipple stimulation releases oxytocin. Yes yes, but the amount is very minimal. Not enough to get the response I'm looking for. >youll end up with an unfaithful junky Well one thing here is that, frankly, I've never even met a virgin. None that I could possibly get with, anyway. All the girls I can get already know what dick feels like. If I introduce this new feeling, they'll know the other ones don't give them that feeling, so they'll have to come back to me to get it. As for being a junkie: 1) A girl that's a junkie for my junk is kinda hot. That's kind of the point. 2) I think you'd need a hell of a lot of nicotine before someone qualifies as a junkie for it. But yes, finding correct dosage would be important.

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>>470912 >if she associates your dick with nicotine buzz, she will associate any man smoking with sex and be more likely to fuck him. But would it if she didn't know it was nicotine? The sight of smoking would do nothing. It would have to be the actual consumption of nicotine that would give her the feeling. And how much would need to be consumed for it to really do anything? Would a puff of second hand smoke from some passerby on the street really be enough? And if so, would she even recognize that that smell is where her sudden horniness came from? While your concern is a good one to bring up, I don't know if it's the biggest problem in the world. But it is one reason that perhaps other substances would work better. >with drugs youd have more luck doing shrooms with her and convincing her you are her soul mate tbh. That might work, but it's not what I'm actually trying to do. I could perhaps convince one I'm a soulmate, they're easily convinced of stuff like that in the first place. But I don't care. I just want a girl that cartoonishly craves dick like in my chinese cartoons. >otherwise just be like any other drug dealer and fuck your unloyal clients. No, because getting the pussy isn't the point. Their attitudes are the point. >but also if you still wanna try this maybe look into ghb (not sure) + weed. mdma is also known to increase libido. no need to be subtle just ask her if she wants a hit. fucking coward. Again, missing the point. I don't want them to want drugs. None of you understand my genius at all! I thought you would understand when you mentioned thinking of world domination, but you're just like all the rest! No love for true mad science. >>470915 >kidnapping Why? That sounds like a whole lot of extra complication that is harder than just getting them to fuck regular. That's what the two other guys above don't understand. This whole thing already relies upon the prerequisite fact that I can get girls to fuck regularly for extended periods of time. It's not that I can't get them horny, even repeatedly. It's about how horny they get, and with what prompting. This is to go even further beyond. >lobotomy I'm not following. To be clear, side effects are a significant concern for me. I have some degree of ethics here. While as far as I know, everything has side effects of some type, I'm trying to keep them minimal. Even getting high, though plenty might like that, would not be ideal here. If they want to get high after, knowingly, then fine. All I'm looking for is the addictive properties. >publish findings here please Well of course. But it might take a while. Another concern is waiting to find a girl that you'd want this crazy about your dick. Especially for a trial run, you wouldn't want to risk it with a girl that you might not want becoming too obsessed with you. >>470917 >unless yours is exceptionally big or small, most dicks feel the same, so there is no reason to assume she will anchor to yours as unique to you. My thought process was that, assuming she isn't a virgin, she wouldn't have felt this craving before, and would only start feeling it upon sex with me. And she would only get the fix upon sex with me. Unfortunately, I am assuming that girls I can get aren't virgins. Maybe it wouldn't work on a virgin, she would just start craving all dick much more. Maybe. But I'd just have to let her have mine whenever she wants. Easily done. >you need to find something unique about yourself to be the anchor. Interesting idea. >pheromones >smell Yeah, I've had some girls that have said they liked my smell. It's not enough to make them cartoonishly horny though. >specific touch/word signals Yes, also done almost by tradition, as you mention. And it might work to a degree, but not to the degree I'm looking for. These things could be combined with more factors for stronger results. You're thinking, Anon. I appreciate it. You raise good points that should be considered. But I don't think these things you mention get strong enough results to replace what I'm looking for. I also don't think the options are mutually exclusive. >>470919 What do you think pimp means? Is English your first language? >>470920 Sure, things like eye contact release oxytocin and whatnot. But again, this is small time and not mutually exclusive with more creative ideas. >>470921 Missing the point. I've gotten with girls that cum pretty easily. They enjoy it, but grow to take it for granted. They don't come to crave it with the cravings I'm looking for here. >>470922 >(basically if you give a hoe some good ol baby making sex, and she isnt on mind altering medication, and your dick isnt literally one inch, you can have a loyal waifu who gives you plenty of sex) Then what's your excuse? Okay actually, the fact of the matter is that you're exaggerating. Everyone knows that women might like some good sex, but they also get it so easily that they take it for granted. If it were as simple as giving them good sex, the divorce rate would be a lot lower than it is. I suppose you are all right that I'm clearly not the biggest chad in the world. I'm here after all. But dick isn't all that's involved in being a chad. I'd blame my looks and personality. Well this evens the odds a bit. >>470924 Yeah, yeah, all these classic things that are known to get chicks horny and/or attached. All beside the point of this thread. I already do all this shit. I already love horror movies and get them to watch with me.

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vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 02:50:05 No. 470933 >>470934

>>470931 you want a boyfriend with tits to initiate sex on you. youre right in that i dont believe you, >subtly giving people drugs is fine but cucking someone isnt ok. maybe come back when you ACTUALLY get laid?

>>470934

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:08:42 No. 470934 >>470936

>>470933 >you want a boyfriend with tits to initiate sex on you. And a pussy. That's the most important part. >subtly giving people drugs is fine Well, hey, I did say I want to minimize side effects. It's not like I'm talking about roofies or something. In fact, that's the opposite of what I want. All of this would only come into play after they already want to fuck regularly in the first place. >but cucking someone isnt No, it isn't, especially if that person is me. So no, I wouldn't want my girls being literal whores. Plus, again, the problem in question here isn't how to get laid in the first place, or even how to get a girl that won't cheat. (Though I'm not every trusting, so perhaps I should worry about that.) The thing is just how to make them crave it really really badly. Not just to do it with me whenever I want. It's about their mindsets. That's the fetish at play here.

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vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:13:11 No. 470935 >>470940

>>470931 >What substance, how to administer, how to avoid other dangers, etc. your dick and balls. in vagina and on clit. stay hydrated. you dont need drugs if pavlov used food. >and the bell is dick. so you will initiate it by pulling your dick out? you need to have something unique to yourself as the anchor. look into neurolinguistic programming. as for the active pursuit thing i guess alternatives to what i said are ovulation, pheromones, and substance addiction rivaling the impact of childbirth. >does second hand smoke its the association. their brain physically recognises the chemical, so if a dude smelling of it hits on her she will respond more likely as if it were you. >if i introduce this new feeling if they are whores they probably know that other feeling. the thing with nicotine is that it doesnt release the full spectrum. maybe you can use it as a supplement to actual sex, but you would be better off just giving better sex. maybe i forgot to post it but not just the breasts release oxytocin, arousal and orgasm do as well. you can think of these events like thermite or welding. flash events where the brain becomes more plastic. nicotine has some effect but it doesnt cover all the other chemicals. i know that sex drive is linked to testosterone and estrogen, and maybe adrenaline which is why i mentioned horror movies. something like skydiving would be a significant flash event. nicotine is addictive mostly due to the rate it is absorbed so something like patches wont be as addictive as smoke, but will have some neuroplasticity.

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vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:17:58 No. 470936 >>470937 >>470940

>>470934 curious that you self inserted as the cuck. i usually just see all involved from a third position. anyway, if you maybe introduce them to smoking post sex that will be better. due to the absorbtion rate of cigarettes and the higher withdrawal chance, it will be better than subtle dosing. its not even weird either, you can just have them ready afterwards as a reward, or beforehand as a cue. you dont have to read the thing anyway, the images i posted are relevant.

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vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:19:36 No. 470937

>>470936 although in the event of a breakup they will keep smoking which is maybe why you want it subtle, to keep them dependant.

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:30:07 No. 470938 >>470940

>Nicotine is unusual in comparison to most drugs, as its profile changes from stimulant to sedative with increasing dosages, a phenomenon known as "Nesbitt's paradox" after the doctor who first described it in 1969. if you can mask the taste somehow, you could deliver it via food like chewing tobaco. i wont get into extraction and all that here because i have no idea about it. a patch releases slowly (over a day) so its not optimal for a flash event. the only other idea i have is maybe gel delivered in the guise of a massage which can be easily turned to a sexual context. but you have to make sure theres time for it to take effect. ultimately i believe the use of outside substances, though useful, will fail on their own. like with the dogs you dont need anything more than your own biology. "all the gods, all the heavens and hells, are within you". i have the same view of lazy bastards that do dmt, claiming its natural and made in the brain, and then vaping twice the amount released during a NDE. hell even chinese thought reform needs nothing more than than glorified peer pressure.

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Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:38:51 No. 470939 >>470940

>>470931 Holy shit your a virgin, and also incredibly naive, and know nothing about the world. Goddamn dude. Theres so much shit I have to teach you before you are even in a position to have this conversation. Like, years of work. Holy shit don't any of you have fathers, this isn't my job.

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Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 03:44:33 No. 470940 >>470942

>>470935 >your dick and balls. in vagina and on clit. stay hydrated. you dont need drugs if pavlov used food. Look, the problem isn't that they don't like it at all. They'll come back for it, but it's about increasing the intensity of craving. >so you will initiate it by pulling your dick out? you need to have something unique to yourself as the anchor. look into neurolinguistic programming. Well that's the thing with substances. Cravings can be triggered by all sorts of things. Smokers seem to want to smoke because they're stressed, or bored, or just because they haven't had a smoke in a while. So I want to take that effect, but replace the smokes with my dick. And yeah, pulling my dick out would surely be a trigger, but I bet other things would as well. Maybe the problem is that I said nicotine as my first idea. Caffeine would perhaps also work. I don't know. I don't drink coffee either, partially because almost everyone I see is super addicted to coffee and needs regular fixes, with practically no prompting. Not sure which of these two substances would work better. Can I get a form of caffeine that would be easy to discreetly administer at the opportune moments? Would the side effects be a problem? Can I safely and discreetly deliver caffeine vaginally, like with my previous dissolving strips idea? I bet you fags don't even think of caffeine as a drug. >as for the active pursuit thing i guess alternatives to what i said are ovulation, pheromones, and substance addiction rivaling the impact of childbirth. Yeah yeah. I can't control ovulation, and can only minimally control pheromones. Also, if someone found a pheromone spray or whatever that had a very significant impact, every man in the world would be using it all the time. >its the association. their brain physically recognises the chemical, so if a dude smelling of it hits on her she will respond more likely as if it were you. Valid concern. But honestly, I so rarely smell second hand smoke nowadays that I'm not very afraid of this. >if they are whores they probably know that other feeling. Perhaps. But I'm not looking for full on whores or sluts or whatever. At least by modern standards. Unfortunately, I don't think I've ever met a girl that made it to adulthood without already fucking. If I do find a virgin, then I'll have a whole other set of concerns. I also figure I could modify the same addiction thing so that she gets the hit when she walks into my house or something. But that's a bridge I'd cross if I ever got to it. >maybe you can use it as a supplement to actual sex Well yes, that's necessarily part of the plan here. >but you would be better off just giving better sex. Again, these things aren't mutually exclusive. I'm already doing my best. And I don't get complaints or whatever. This is not the point. >not just the breasts release oxytocin, arousal and orgasm do as well. Of course. And again, this is not the problem. I can do this well enough and regularly, but I've never seen anybody, man or woman, jonesing for sex as badly as I see people jonesing for a smoke or a coffee. >nicotine has some effect but it doesnt cover all the other chemicals. Well as mentioned, actual sex would be involved. That would release many chemicals anyway. This is just spicing things up. >nicotine is addictive mostly due to the rate it is absorbed so something like patches wont be as addictive as smoke, but will have some neuroplasticity. Good point. But I could also control the dose to a somewhat significant degree. Like if I used dissolvable strips, I could control what dose is on each strip. Finding the best dose is the tricky part. Don't wanna get it wrong. >>470936 >curious that you self inserted as the cuck. The only place in this whole conversation where cucking would be remotely involved is if they're whores, in which case the girl I'm getting with is also getting with other dudes. We'd all be cucks. Not sure why you're bringing any of this up in the first place. It's just where your mind goes, I guess. In a land of degenerates, you are king. >>470936 >if you maybe introduce them to smoking post sex that will be better But they'd know it's the smokes and not the sex that give them that feeling. It would have an indirect connection to the sex, but that's not really what I'm looking for. Also, the side effects there are a lot more significant than what I'm looking for. >due to the absorbtion rate of cigarettes and the higher withdrawal chance, it will be better than subtle dosing. Would it? What if I could control the dose, like with a liquid? Because you can buy that online. Frankly, it seems dangerous. You'd have to be very careful with it. >>470938 >Nicotine is unusual in comparison to most drugs, as its profile changes from stimulant to sedative with increasing dosages, a phenomenon known as "Nesbitt's paradox" after the doctor who first described it in 1969. So are you saying this is a problem? Frankly, any stimulant or sedative properties would be seen as a negative side effect. I'm after purely the addictive properties. But I suppose stimulant would be better for sex than sedative.

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>if you can mask the taste somehow, you could deliver it via food like chewing tobaco. i wont get into extraction and all that here because i have no idea about it. You can buy it in all sorts of forms, including pure liquid. I'd just need to look into getting a flavorless one. But even this is mostly a concern for getting her addicted to blowjobs. Otherwise, I figure the easiest thing would be to deliver it vaginally. >a patch releases slowly (over a day) so its not optimal for a flash event. Good to note. >maybe gel delivered in the guise of a massage which can be easily turned to a sexual context. but you have to make sure theres time for it to take effect. Not a bad idea. Definitely one I'd keep in mind. I'd be concerned that I'd absorb a lot through my hands, though, and I don't wanna get more addicted than I already am. I just found a product called Stype Energy Strips which are apparently dissolvable strips with caffeine on them which just dissolve on your tongue. I imagine if they do, they'd also dissolve in a vagina. That's what I'm looking for. But these seem to be mint. I imagine that would feel pretty fucked up in a pussy. I still think the best idea would be something like this, but very soft, thin, and dissolvable, with no chemicals that would be felt vaginally. So far nobody in the thread has said anything about this idea. Such strips could also be put in other substances if I wanted. And if I look, I bet I could find such paper online and make them myself. I wonder. And no, saying to also do other regular things is stupid, because I already do those things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. >>470939 >woman detected

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vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:09:30 No. 470941 >>470942 >>470956

"doing regular things" is all you need if you do them well enough. skill issue, i guess. as for the dissovable thing im pretty sure the vagina (and anus) can absorb substances on their own, so you just need that. maybe crushed caffeine pills in lube. be careful with dosage and use harm reduction practices found on psychonaut wiki (which has a myriad of substances and effects, btw). in saying this, i do not believe you will succeed with this outlook. relying on outside factors too much will not workout long term, its better to develop the self. i had both parents who were manipulative/abusive, and this just seems like some gay shit they would vibe with. all you need is within.

>>470942 >>470956

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:09:48 No. 470942

>>470941 >>470940

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:35:16 No. 470943 >>470945 >>470956

OP is fucked. I have a 10 inch monster cock, and have always gotten bitches off, hard. Multiple times usually. And yeah. Thats the secret. Having a badass dick, and if you weren't born with one, your fucked.

>>470945 >>470956

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:42:02 No. 470944 >>470956

>>470931 > I just want a girl that cartoonishly craves dick like in my chinese cartoons. then emulate the chinese cartoon i literally posted? chinese cartoons either involve drugs + rape by an ugly bastard or an uber sex chad. >Again, missing the point. I don't want them to want drugs. the point is drugs effect the brain regardless of your knowledge of them. most stoner chicks dont even think about it. they build the association regardless. >My thought process was that, assuming she isn't a virgin, she wouldn't have felt this craving before you are placing yourself within the average category. you are as good as the average dude thats fucked the average chick. YOU are the unique anchor. distinguish yourself. >this is small time so have them do lines off your dick. association is automatic. they will associate you with a coke high. >but grow to take it for granted thats what edging and denial is for. maybe try watching more chinese cartoons? >then whats your excuse you assume i have the same demand as you, im just interested in knowledge. as for the overabundance of males, its quantity over quality. most men are lazy subhumans, like women, so its easy to rise above. i believes the romans called them plebeians. the average man isnt a chad, which explains the divorce rate. the average woman isnt a stacy either, its all just shit floaters wandering around the public shitbowl waiting for the next shit flush to propel them to their next shitframe in the shitcone of experiential light. you can take actions to change that however and increase your value. TLDR find the clit or fuck her with cocaine lube. thread over.

>>470956

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:44:25 No. 470945 >>470946

>>470943 dick game implies there is an active role, not just default stats. its a GAME that you take part in so git gud.

>>470946

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 04:50:08 No. 470946

>>470945 I am also very athletic, and talented in my fuck game.

vossy 04/07/2025 (Mon) 05:00:46 No. 470947

>"The clitoral glans itself is very sensitive and its direct stimulation, such as in cases where the hood is retracted, is often not enjoyable.[7] Females with hoods covering most of the clitoral glans can often masturbate by stimulating the hood over the clitoral glans; those with smaller, or more compact, structures tend to rub the clitoral glans and hood together.[7]" i cant believe im explaining this shit. put your dick in the vagina. rub the clit. the woman has now associated your dick with the intense sensation of the clit. LOOK into her EYEBALLS as do it so that the neuralpathways REMEMBER your face. workup a SWEAT so that your pheromones are smelt. if she says its ok, CHOKE or SLAP her so that ADRENALINE is released. ALL OF THIS WHILST YOU ARE INSIDE HER VAGINA SO THAT SHE ASSOCIATES THE HIGH WITH YOU. jesus christ. theres so much cooler stuff we could research, and youre debating whether to put tobaco or coffee on your penis. like, i wanna know how to transmit keter class payloads into someones brain via geometric patterns gleamed through lsd research but yeah i guess well help you with your immature desire to be desired.

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 13:41:02 No. 470956 >>470975

>>470941 How many times must it be explained to you? It's not a "skill issue" because these tactics aren't mutually exclusive, they're additive. This is about adding more. >maybe crushed caffeine pills in lube. be careful with dosage and use harm reduction practices found on psychonaut wiki (which has a myriad of substances and effects, btw). Good idea and good advice. I'm cautious about the lube idea due to it also being absorbed by me, but perhaps it's still a reasonable idea. >>470943 It's not about getting them off. I can do that. It's not that they don't enjoy it, it's that they take it for granted. >>470944 >the point is drugs effect the brain regardless of your knowledge of them. most stoner chicks dont even think about it. they build the association regardless. Stoners know they're smoking weed, and they know weed is what's giving them the feeling that they want. The trick is to make them think they're getting the feeling from something else. You don't think that would make them crave the second thing? >you are placing yourself within the average category. you are as good as the average dude thats fucked the average chick. YOU are the unique anchor. distinguish yourself. This just sounds like some PUA stuff. Yeah, I can get them to come back to me and stuff. But none of this is mutually exclusive with other tactics to elicit the cartoonish response I'm looking for. >so have them do lines off your dick. association is automatic. they will associate you with a coke high. Yeah but they'll know it's actually the coke so really they'll just go straight for coke since any association to my dick is secondary. >thats what edging and denial is for. maybe try watching more chinese cartoons? Doesn't work on girls. They don't get blue balls, and can get sex easier. Plus, I don't want to deny them. I want to do it more. >you assume i have the same demand as you, im just interested in knowledge. No, I'm positive that if any guy knew how to get a chick absolutely craving his dick, he'd be doing it. Yet guys don't know how to do this. Not to the degree I'm discussing. >you can take actions to change that however and increase your value. This isn't about increasing relative value, it's about eliciting a stronger physical response. And while you can say those things are related, they're not the same. Plus, the tactics to increase relative value are not mutually exclusive with the tactics to elicit a stronger physical response. All of these things can be done together. These responses are like if someone was saying "I want to be healthier. What workouts should I do?" and the responses were "eat these foods." Like sure, I could eat those foods, but why are you acting like that somehow precludes me from working out? I can do both, but I was asking about the workout.

>>470975

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 16:08:22 No. 470957 >>470964 >>470972

>desperate for sex >consults with the boys on /b/ dead on arrival

>>470964 >>470972

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 18:34:51 No. 470964

>>470957 I mean if he's secretly gay than that plan will work. I mean this is where I cruise fags personally.

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 20:36:45 No. 470966 >>470972

>>470846 (OP) Try using condoms or birth control infused with it. Use flavored condoms infused with it for oral.

>>470972

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 23:42:25 No. 470972 >>470975 >>470977

>>470957 Two things. >This plan relies upon the premise of already having sex regularly with the same girl, long enough that you could administer enough doses to build an addiction. >Obviously a plan this devious couldn't be discussed in more normalfag circles. I thought 8/b/ would be the only place devious enough, in fact. But turns out this place has become a lot faggier in the last few years. mid-late 2000s /b/ would have been all over this by now. >>470966 I suppose. This is the simplest idea, and it's pretty reasonable. The flavored condoms are a clever idea. But condoms suck. I think even girls would find it weird for a guy to want to use a condom during blowjobs regularly. Trying a flavored one once might work, but regularly? They're gonna think it's fucking weird.

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vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 00:38:50 No. 470975 >>470982

>>470956 you are adding more because you have a skill issue, yes. >they take it for granted then stop chasing them, dumbass. edging and denial and ghosting. >i dont want to deny them also they take me for granted oh, so youre just an actual retard whos too scared to sell drugs. >wants to workout before fixing his diet again, retarded. btw the best exercise for longevity is cardio. >>470972 the only thing "faggy" (btw gay as shit wording) about this is your inability to either attract girls or sell drugs to them. we get it, you arent like the other boys, you are a smart little cookie who read the wikipedia page on classical conditioning and maybe got pity sex once, and now you want to get girls addicted to your cock like hentai without actually being like someone from a hentai (competent). >mid-late 2000s /b/ would have been my personal army by now and getting me irl mindbreak hentai sex lol stfu you absolute bottom feeder. girls just dont want to please you. yet they initiate sex with others they want to please. this means there is a personal skill issue. you are a pathetic queer. youve already gotten the answers, theres nothing to work out, nothing complicated. you want to supplement your presence with drugs so literally just do that. why are you still talking, fuckwit? you have no idea how the brain works, or how desire works. you are a worthless 99%er chasing after flesh. and you cant even do that right because you are hung up on protecting your ego instead of developing it.

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Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 00:42:39 No. 470976 >>470978

>>470926 What determines if woman like the "smell" of a man is the genetic relatedness to the male and how K or R type-oriented the female is 3rd cousin is the most optimal for the type of female that is most likely to not be a cheating whore

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vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 00:48:25 No. 470977 >>470982

>>470972 >This plan relies upon the premise of already having sex regularly with the same girl, long enough that you could administer enough doses to build an addiction. which doesnt apply to you because you wouldnt need to plan something like this if you were attractive. you are hoping that drug addiction will form a desire for your self so that you dont have to constantly beg for sex and be annoying. so yes, that anon was right when he said you are desperate.

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vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 00:50:25 No. 470978 >>470982

>>470976 there you go, op. find a retarded blood relative of yours who is ovulating in a gym. its the only way your fugly ass will get someone chasing you lol.

>>470982

Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 01:04:58 No. 470982 >>470996 >>470998

>>470975 >you are adding more because you have a skill issue, yes. There's no upper limit to the results. Adding multiple factors together can increase the results further. Also, let's not pretend you're some uber mac daddy that gets chicks desperately throwing themselves at your dick. But oh wait, you'll say you just don't want that. And I'm sure you're telling the truth, because you're a fucking faggot. Or just a woman. >then stop chasing them, dumbass. edging and denial and ghosting. Those options result in less sex. That's fucking gay. I want more, not less. >oh, so youre just an actual retard whos too scared to sell drugs. What would selling drugs have to do with anything? Again, I don't want them to want the drugs. The whole premise here is purely the addictive factor, and transferring the psychological aspect of that onto something else, namely dick. >>wants to workout before fixing his diet The quote didn't say the diet wasn't already dealt with, it said it wasn't what was being asked about. Also, it was a rhetorical question. You really lack reading comprehension. >>mid-late 2000s /b/ would have been my personal army by now and getting me irl mindbreak hentai sex >personal army What do you think that means? Nobody is asking anybody to do anything IRL. It's just a conversation. A brainstorming session. This could be a breakthrough for men everywhere. But of course they always call geniuses mad. You could be getting in on the ground floor of a massive breakthrough, but instead you're choosing to stay behind. Have it your way. >you want to supplement your presence with drugs so literally just do that. No, it's not that simple. It's about what substances and methods would allow it to work while also being discreet. A few reasonable ideas have been raised in the thread, so it hasn't been fruitless, but surely more brainstorming could result in better ideas. Ideas with higher chances of success and less risk in several areas. >why are you still talking, fuckwit? I'm interested in the topic and getting some reasonable replies. How about you? Oh wait, I just realized you're literally lcp. Sorry. So the answer is because you're literally a retard mad at the site and just wanting to stifle discussion. Carry on. >protecting your ego instead of developing it. Ego has nothing to do with this, at least on my end. You're the one getting mad at others for daring to dream. I'm the one advocating for development. You're the one mad about it. Notice how I didn't say no to any of the retarded normalfag suggestions you've given. I just said that they're not what's being asked about, because they're basic normalfag shit that everyone has heard a million times, and they're not mutually exclusive with the thread topic. >>470977 No. If anything the issue is that after some time it becomes too casual. Expected and done regularly, but unenthusiastic. Married men joke about this all the time. Go watch a standup comic from the '90s. The subliminal mind control idea isn't bad. Not mutually exclusive with the thread topic, but not bad. But if it sounds like tinnitus, then fuck that. Sounds annoying. Not my thing. Might be something others are interested in though. >>470978 Good idea. But again, not mutually exclusive with the other ideas here. The point isn't how to get laid, it's how to increase cravings after already regularly getting laid.

>>470996 >>470998

vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 02:14:57 No. 470996 >>471043

>>470982 >let's not pretend you're some uber mac daddy there we have it. you have outed yourself, because i already told you thats not what i want. the whole "youre a woman if you tell me to improve" thing on 8chan of all places already gave hints. theres no fucking girls here, spastic. >There's no upper limit to the results. Adding multiple factors together can increase the results further. yeah, you have a skill issue and can barely get average sex with average women. so you want to feed them drugs so that they seek you out. because of your skill issue. >Those options result in less sex. That's fucking gay. I want more, not less. less because girls dont want sex with you, we know. btw do you want more or do you want them to initiate it? youre the one sounding like a picky lil hoe lol. if you want more just get more, by initiating it more. >What would selling drugs have to do with anything? drugs make them horny and more likely to initiate. thats literally what your op was about. when they take drugs in your presence they will associate the feeling with you. when they get cravings they will think of you. youre probably a weak faggot and thats why youre scared. you havent even done drugs nor sold them. because you are a little bitch. >After many years, I'm finally at the point where I can get girls. Not easily, but I can do it lol youre shit is all retarded. >What do you think that means? i think you are intellectually lazy and need to data mine. i know because i used to do threads like this when i was new, asking retarded questions and presenting my situation in a certain way. >No, it's not that simple. it is. it has been done countless times before. you dont even actually need drugs, as seen by old school pimps. if a girl loves you they will seek to please you and that means they will initiate sex if they think it will please you. no girls love you, though. pavlovs dogs didnt need anything beyond their own hunger, so you dont need drugs, but you can also just sell drugs and it will work 100 times better than what you want to do. >while also being discreet this serves no practical purpose beyond saving your own ass. it wont be more effective. >mad at the site typical manlet queer hiding behind his perceived collective. personal army seeking behavior. >Ego has nothing to do with this you cant look at yourself objectively and debug. "it cant be something to do with me, it has to be something outside... i know! women have low sex drives so i will subtly give them 2mg of nicotine under my foreskin so that they like me more" >Notice how I didn't say no you have, because they dont involve drugging someone. >unenthusiastic. maybe you are just not appealing >Married men you arent one >But if it sounds like tinnitus, then fuck that. Sounds annoying. Not my thing. it wasnt i suggestion because i know you are a pseudo intellectual that cant into scientific development.

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Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 02:18:35 No. 470997

This some virgin shit

vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 02:24:11 No. 470998 >>471043

>>470982 >The quote didn't say the diet wasn't already dealt with, it said it wasn't what was being asked about. Also, it was a rhetorical question. You really lack reading comprehension. it was a bad analogy that doesnt fit. >Like sure, I could eat those foods youre language patterns resemble a females. to be healthy you need to exercise AND eat well. getting women to crave sex more doesnt require drugs/"working out" (although literal exercise is also important for a healthy sex drive)

>>471043

vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 02:32:55 No. 471002

lil bros at the point where ghosting his totally real gf will end up with her leaving and not giving him head for attention

vossy 04/08/2025 (Tue) 02:42:10 No. 471004

this will be my last post in this thread, im sure you will take advantage of that. seriously? honestly? unironically? my unfiltered opinion is that you should seek enlightenment. spirituality. occultism. self development. then you will be able to gain power. it all starts in the mind and you need to tear everything down to restart at the first lego block. maybe lurk /x/ and /fringe/

Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 15:22:48 No. 471017 >>471043

Say you have a feeding kink and mix a bit of nicotine into the food.

>>471043

Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 15:27:56 No. 471019 >>471043

Just find a chick who likes to smoke after sex and let her do all the work of it.

>>471043

Anonymous 04/09/2025 (Wed) 04:33:46 No. 471043 >>471047

>>470996 >the whole "youre a woman if you tell me to improve" thing on 8chan of all places already gave hints. No, you're a woman for completely sidestepping the actual issue and saying the equivalent of "man up" or "have sex, incel." >so you want to feed them drugs so that they seek you out. No, the entire premise relies upon them already having sex with me regularly. >less because girls dont want sex with you, we know. Less because you're literally saying I should reject them. >btw do you want more or do you want them to initiate it? Both. >youre the one sounding like a picky lil hoe lol. if you want more just get more, by initiating it more. This would be pretty simple if you just learned to read. But you're too retarded to know how to use capital letters, so I shouldn't expect much from you. >drugs make them horny and more likely to initiate. thats literally what your op was about. That's much more indirect than the association that I'm talking about. >i know because i used to do threads like this when i was new, Nigger, due to your idiosyncratic posting style, we all know when you were new, and it wasn't that long ago. >if a girl loves you they will seek to please you and that means they will initiate sex if they think it will please you. But I don't want it to be because they want to please me. I want it to be because they want it themselves, very very badly. Moreso than they do already. Cartoonishly so. Hence the cartoonish scheme. >but you can also just sell drugs and it will work 100 times better than what you want to do. No it wouldn't, because it wouldn't be as direct an association. It would change their entire mindset, and the mindset is the point. >this serves no practical purpose beyond saving your own ass. it wont be more effective. Saving my own ass is the second practical purpose. The first is to make them think the sex is what's giving them the feeling, thus making them crave sex the way they'd crave nicotine or caffeine or whatever. Smokers don't think "I need nicotine," they think "I need a smoke," but we know it's the nicotine that makes them crave the smokes. Put the nicotine in something else and they'll crave that instead. >typical manlet queer hiding behind his perceived collective. personal army seeking behavior. "Personal army, discuss this topic for me!" That's not what the term means, retard. By your logic, every thread on the site is a personal army request. >"it cant be something to do with me, it has to be something outside..." Literally never said anything like this. Actually said multiple times that it must be looks and personality. But also, yes it is true that women generally have lower sex drives than men. It's also true that due to many factors, they take it for granted. Plus, I don't want to deny it and tease them, because during that time, that means I'm not getting laid. But this is all besides the point, because again it's you acting like these options are mutually exclusive, but they're not. Again it's like you going to a guy asking for workout advice and telling him to eat better. It's not what's being asked about, and nothing said he isn't already eating well. You're just a fucking butthurt leftist retard mad at a thread for being a bit too edgy for you. >you have, because they dont involve drugging someone. No, I didn't say no, I said they're irrelevant to this topic. >maybe you are just not appealing Could always be more appealing. There's no upper limit. But again this is irrelevant to the topic. You could be Chad Thundercock himself and could always still find ways to improve her reactions. >>470998 >it was a bad analogy that doesnt fit. It would fit perfectly if you weren't a Rain Man-tier autist.

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>youre language patterns resemble a females. And your argument style does. >getting women to crave sex more doesnt require drugs/ Obviously, but we're discussing scientific breakthroughs here. We're exploring new frontiers. >>471017 No, because that would make the direct addiction to the food. She would just get fat. >>471019 No, because again the direction would be very indirect. She would still be getting the fix from the smokes, and she'd know it's from the smokes. The fix needs to be from the sex itself, not from something she knows to be separate.

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Anonymous 04/09/2025 (Wed) 07:48:12 No. 471047

>>471043 >What's 2 +2? and no, don't fucking say "4", give me a real answer. >No, the entire premise relies upon them already having sex with me regularly You want to give them drugs so that they desire you. >Less because you're literally saying I should reject them. He said to stop chasing them because they apparently take you/sex for granted. Supply and demand. >We all know Who? >But I don't want it to be because they want to please me. I want it to be because they want it themselves. Don't even need to say what's wrong with this sentence. You don't seem to have ever had an actual relationship with a woman beyond sex, and you have admitted that you're the one seeking it out. >No, it wouldn't, because it wouldn't be as direct an association. Incorrect. Same context, same neurochemistry, same association. Fucking a girl on coke or shrooms will affect her 100 times more than what you want to do. It's still your dick inside her. What drugs have you actually tried by the way? just curious. >It would change their entire mindset Yes, that is what drugs do; they change your mindset. You seem to want a long-term dependence on yourself as a person though, which is different. Your plan won't actually increase arousal, the woman will just be looking for sex the same way a hobo looks for cigarette butts. >crave sex the way they'd crave nicotine or caffeine or whatever. Both of those are mild "nootropics". Nootropics make it easier to absorb information and learn. And I doubt you will find a girl who doesn't consume caffeine, you'd be better off finding a virgin. >we know it's the nicotine that makes them crave the smokes. Actually, it's mostly the fast delivery of nicotine that makes them so addictive. You need it to enter the brain as fast as a cigarette otherwise they won't really crave it to the same extent. This is why things like patches and gum are used to treat addiction. I'll also add that addiction, cravings, and withdrawal (one of the major reasons for addiction) cause depression and anyone suffering from them will be likely to seek out substances even if they don't know the cause. >every thread on the site How many of them are blatantly self-serving datamining threads? You keep appealing to some perceived mob inside your head and hiding behind it, but the truth is none of "us" are your friends. It's more like: >personal army, spoon-feed me information I could just as easily find on Wikipedia because I'm a lazy retard! This isn't a general discussion about women or science, you have an agenda which you came here to fulfill. Don't try to act familiar with "us" just for your own personal gain. Just going to touch up on your original post here: >(((I'm))) finally at the point where (((I))) can get girls. >Not easily, but (((I))) can do it. >(((I))) can't get any that have as high a sex drive as (((I))) want >(((I))) don't like that and "WANT TO CHANGE IT". >I have VERY LITTLE knowledge in this field. >So (((I))) come here to ask "you degenerates" >without the cops thinking I'm using it for acid or something? You would need to buy an industrial amount as well as acid making supplies for them to think that you actual fucking virgin. Maybe go back to school and learn chemistry/biology. >when she is in a more passive position, which is what most women do the majority of the time In your personal experience. Which is why you made the thread. >If I'm having thoughts like this, I'm already addicted enough as it is. addicted to what? sex? You have already said that they won't get addicted to sex if they know that there's a substance. >but I deleted it as it brought be to an idea. nigguh whut? >if I suggested it to a girl, in the heat of the moment, she MIGHT be okay with it. idk tho yo, iz pretty fkn weird using lube in sex idk she might be not ok with it >Girls are already told to watch out for things like this I wonder why. >Just tell her the substance is something else, like an aphrodisiac.

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>It involves convincing, which might be hard. You are talking about drugs. You admitted that it's not your domain. You should smoke weed or something, I guarantee that the ladies won't be put off by your uncanny valley autistic ass once you are a little cooler. Not going to lie though, an insecure overthinking type such as yourself will have a few bad trips. >hey, since you like it so much, I'll save it for you when you're not here, so you can drink it all when you're back from work or whatever. ngmi holy fucking shit. Can't you take a step back and objectively analyze what you are writing? >she should actually start physically craving the cum. If you did a simple google search you would know what "extinction" is. >but women leave me anyway, so oh well. You said it, kid, not me. >trying to invent a female aphrodisiac Try ecstasy, fucking loser. >proceeds to post the copyasta disclaimer as if the fbi will investigate You aint dat guy bro *crying emoji* >Obviously, but we're discussing scientific breakthroughs here. We're exploring new frontiers. We really aren't. Its new to you. >No, because that would make the direct addiction to the food. No, because that's not how classical conditioning works. The food doesn't have nicotine in it. just like your dick doesn't. This whole plan is just an elaborate shortcut that will not work.

Anonymous 04/16/2025 (Wed) 07:16:50 No. 473120

>>470846 (OP) Just mix a half spoon of kratom in a shake or something god damn

Anonymous 04/16/2025 (Wed) 13:13:07 No. 473725

>>470846 (OP) Liquid nicotine touching the skin causes a slight burning sensation; mitigate it by spanking her or with other touchy-hurty kinks. Assuming that nicotine river isn't a honeypot, nicotine would prove to be an extremely valuable commodity for us when killing: it's readily available to consumers, a *mililiter* of it is enough to kill, and it can be absorbed through the skin. They die a couple hours later because their heart stops beating effectively and they can't breathe because they can't get oxygen anymore due to high blood pressure (basically seizures). Obviously, the quick action time would mean that we'd get caught. Therefore, It's feasible for killing girls who reject us at bars and the like, in which case we'd leave the area pretty quickly; or, when we can't get t our targets to ingest anything and need to rely on skin absorption. Otherwise, if she trusts you enough to ingest say, a drink or bottled soda you give her, I don't see any reason not to give her methanol instead (50ml causes permanent blindness; 100ml is lethal), which works 12-24h after ingesting. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, and it doesn't hurt to carry both just in case. Methanol is cheaper, less detectable when ingesting, and has a delayed effect, not to mention that you can choose to blind her instead of killing her. Nicotine on the other hand, *can* be easier to apply, more lethal, and kills quicker, which *can* also be a bad thing. Keeping in mind that methanol is not addictive, the only reasonable advantage is the dermatological absoprtion which causes nicotine to even be a consideration, but that also raises the question: how will we place the nicotine on her without getting it on ourselves? Perhaps we could drop some and frame it as an accident, but it is literally a burning acid... Either way, we'd have to improvise for the scenario, and we are attractive and charismatic enough to have girls we are intimate with have a drink or two with us.

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