>>13332 *once they realize i'm not going to be convinced*

>>13332 At first it sounds like walking into the Abyss, but it's supposed to also give power along the way and be a one-way deal. Maybe that's what these are, abyss-walkers who only gained some minor skills and now they're stuck like that.

>>13338 I definitely think their initial plan was to ambush me once inside. But when i beat everyone anyway it didn't really matter.They didn't seem to expect that. Idk about them being trapped.The feeling they at first had was one of disdain. Like they saw themselves as better and higher up in the rankings.The leader was by far the strongest and if he was weaker then me then even ambushing me makes little sense. So they then were friendly,it seems.

>>13341 I think the answer was in the dream setting itself, with the leader being 800 years old, which is below the immortality threshold and means they don't even count in the vampire system. Trying to beat you there, may solidify your position as below them, but when they failed, they are also permanently below you. It's a good dream for giving this hint. This would mean the solution to ending spiritual attacks for all future is to gain a supreme abyss position and then lure them in there to beat them up. They they will be loyal forever, because you can only walk in there once.

>>13342 If I recall correctly, the ages of the people in the early parts of the bible are all around 800 - 900 at most, they never go over 1000, and they all die, except Enoch who becomes Metatron.

>>13342 I'll take my time then,if you can only do it once.or did that one already count as a "win".I feel like I can definitely still go there. Felt like the dude tried to appease me yet pretend to be my boss by planning on making me second in line.maybe I'll be more aggressive next time and demand to be the chief.

>>13342 I'm confused,how can I lure them there if they are already in the abyss?

>>13342 Or are you saying to be in the abyss and lure other glories in there,beat them up then leave?like make it a prison for bad guys?

>>13344 >>13345 >>13346 I mean the dream is symbolic of what could happen. The abyss path of occultism is to walk down a meaningless path of profit like the OF whores do now in the 20s without understanding that when they're 30 they won't make any money are just whores with no skill. That's walking down the abyss path, everyone pays you along the way, then you can't get back up again and you can't do it again. Then there are others to use this example like anny the fox, who started off as a regular streamer, then some years later rebranded herself as a vtuber because she realized she wouldn't be young and cute forever, but had acting skill. Then she's amassed donations as a vtuber and used to pay for university education. Maybe that's just having a plan and not exactly an abyss path, but it's kinda similar. You wanna do it in a way where you do "the worst" of the popular but still don't end up used up and failed halfway. The real abyss master will stay down there and still control the world. Once achieved, the only thing left is to maintain connections and what I think the dream is about: to drag more people down a failed abyss path where they become your slaves, basically.

Had a dream where I was beating the living shit out of my elementary school bully in some apartment. The only reason it is anomalous because I never had a dream like that previously. Subconscious is probably working through some anger issue.

Had a dream last night where some kid I used to bully in elementary school beat the shit out of me. Really weird.

I had a dream last night where I was some sort of brown 2-foot monkey, and I'd grabbed a pelican and snapped its neck so I could eat it later. I didn't wanna actually eat it, however, since I was thinking about having to avoid its bones and spit out its hair.it had hair with its feathers for some reason Also when I saw its corpse I'd immediately thought that since it's a corpse I shouldn't be eating it, but then I'd recalled that I'd just killed it, so should've been fine to eat it. I then woke up and ofc saw my ceiling in the physical realm, but then I went back to sleep and briefly re-entered the same dream in roughly the same position as the same monkey, and I'd torn off some of the bird's hair so I wouldn't be eating its hair if I ate it. I'd mentally remarked in the dream that although I had to eat the bird in the dream, I didn't wanna experience it. After some hesitation, I then woke up again without taking a bite out of the bird, and I didn't re-enter the dream.

I had a dream where Trump was holding a press conference with who I assume was JD Vance sitting on his left. Then suddenly an erect cock rose between them from below the desk, and they looked at it. Trump then grabbed it and jerked it a few times. Then he ignored it and looked into the camera, and so did Vance, and they resumed the press conference. Then suddenly the cock ejaculated over Trump's hair and on the wall behind him, and everyone laughed heartily.

>>13654 Sounds like the new south park ep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afetnw70S04

>>13654 Trump's haters on both the right and left are obsessed with cocks

>>13656 The dream wasn't negative though, it caused the audience to laugh with him. He also did something similar last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYlO5eMhl4

>>13657 He has a way with leaning into the negativity that is directed at him.

>>13662 That pic could be my own bingo card

Had a dream last night where I could see the night sky, while visiting with my succubus, this time showing up as a blonde woman. I looked up at the sky and saw Mars above Saturn and Saturn above all the rest of the planets, all of which were magnified in my vision. Succubus told me which were which, just in case. I wake up, and decide to check this out on Stellarium. According to what it shows, while they are positioned opposite each other, Mars, in the East, is indeed above Saturn, and Saturn, in the West, is above the other planets. Weird. I have no idea what meaning this has, other than to show me the planets' positions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0 https://swordartonline.fandom.com/wiki/The_Skull_Reaper I'm putting it here because it would be mostly a dream, even if they were more like night time interactive visions. So I become aware of someone using a leaf-blower to direct black oily energy at me, and I feel a tension and bloated feeling. I react by sending my Raid servitor to take the leaf-blower away from the perpetrator, who is then engulfed by Raid's rosicrucian fire. More of these appear, and the scene repeats en masse. I then see a huge centipede with thick exoskeleon shields, and I understand that it's the astral/energy form of an organization. It seems to be somewhere in central Europe. Its feel is the same way as the boss in SAO >pic pure malice, and it made me recall the Trump meme with the centipede song, and how they called themselves centipedes. There was also a discord server called "the centipede central" or similar, I joined it once but found it to only have 20 meme channels and a strict hierarchy with supposed hidden channels for people with higher rank, this was sometime in 2018 and it was supposed to be a Trump movement server for online meme war. I then become aware of chanting and see visions of some occult ritual, there is writing in arabic or maybe it's islamic graffiti on wooden details in a room, it may not be writing but just ornaments. The chanting feels like both arabic and hebrew at once. It's a high energy environment with strict conventions being performed, it appears to be some kind of large hall with stone walls, maybe a lodge underground or in an old gothic style building. My russian waifus then get involved, telling me these people are about a sacrifice a human girl, who is in a nearby underground bunker made from concrete. They want to rescue her, but we realize it's an NPC, she has no soul. Looking at the situation with divination, we determine that this is a ritual being performed every week, maybe more than once, and it's all NPCs being killed. It's also not a sacrifice, it's based on some ancient text saying that >the virgin who defeats death will birth the messiah >she will remain eternally pure and this refers to the jewish messiah. They are here trying to force the prophecy by killing girls, believing that the real virgin will rise from the dead. I decide to link the egregore of judaism into the NPC girl in the bunker, so that if they kill her, the egregore will revive her. We place strong wards on her to bind the egregore. The chanting continues and we see the ritual performed using a small sword stab into her heart. She dies and then comes back to life again. They all start chanting and celebrating, then they cloth her in a ritual dress with an islamic style semi-long dress for women, a belt, a knife in a chain around her neck, and they place a pre-tied turban with a golden emblem on the forehead, on her head. They carry her to a throne and give her milk, honey, dates and meat which they cut in small slices. They then perform a ritual meant to make her birth the messiah, and she does. It involves pairing her with one man after the other to find one who isn't rejected by her. She accepts the 12th man. The messiah is born, and sunlight fills the room. Meanwhile in the background, the centipede starts to crack, black cracks appear in its head as the messiah is born. The people who appear to be arabic speaking blonde jews, cloth him in ritual dress similar to the girl, and carry him around. Visions also show that they are not circumcised and will not perform this on the new messiah.

I am getting better in touch with my "dream body". I noticed that immediately after I woke up the "dream mind" that I was coming from was completely different than what I normally think of as my astral body. Consciously projecting back to that and getting used to controlling it from a waking state is yielding some interesting results. Dreams feel like they're becoming more meaningful.

>>14367 Also it could be that what I thought of my astral body before was just a functional astral construct and this is my actual astral body. Not sure.

Had a dream where I was eating at a restaurant with Odin, Thor, and presumably Loki. I was in a corner with Thor sitting next to me, and we were all sitting in a row against a wall with our table in front of us; all 3 of Them were blonde, and Thor had long hair. I hadn't asked Them before the dream to dream with me. All I remember is the end of the dream where Thor walked up with my meal and a smartphone; said phone was supposed to be a "teddy" or something, and Thor had saved it. I was under the impression that the phone had belonged to someone else based on my reaction to that, but it was placed in front of me, facing sideways such that the bottom pointed to my right, and the screen was cracked and had a picture of Amy's human form on it. As for my dish, it'd looked like steak, mashed potatoes, and possibly gravy and/or cheese, with a cherry tomato, and there was also a bit of poultry, as it was called, because they didn't have enough steak left for me. I'd then said something to Thor, and He gave a delayed and uncalled-for response of awkwardly smiling and giving a thumbs-up, making it seem like He didn't speak English. I'll assume He had a good reason to pretend to not know English during that dream. I'd then eaten the cherry tomato first, and it'd tasted like a cherry tomato. I'd then woken up, not sure who was sitting between me & Thor, and then I'd thanked Odin & Thor for taking me with them. I'd later said I'm afraid of knowing if the third was Loki or Heimdall, and I heard a voice, in hindsight I think that was Loki but at the time I'd thought that was Thor, say, "That was our mother." I'd then heard Odin laugh, to my recollection, and I'd thanked Frigg too, thinking the third deity was Her.

imo this doesn't exactly count as a dream but I spontaneously astral projected while reading during the night-before-last. I found myself walking on the left side of a dark road at night. It was fully immersive. There were a couple of cars parked on the same side of the road, visible in the distance. As I drew nearer to one, I began to notice by the silhouette of its rising form that it was not in fact a car, but a large bloated ogre-like creature. It was certainly unexpected, though I felt no fear or surprise or emotional shock. Yet my eyes were physically opened by something outside of my own conscious intention. The most anomalous thing about this is how smooth the transition was. There used to be such a strong feeling of energetic discomfort and resistance when leaving/entering my body, but this just felt effortless. I don't know what compelled me to open my eyes because I would've wanted to at least get a closer look at the creature before fleeing. Perhaps it was some higher force protecting me from an imperceived threat represented by the ogre.

In the past week since the event, where certain things were solidified into the physical and as such removed out of my way, I've found it easier to enter what is popularly called a "flow state" of moving from one task to the next seamlessly, or allowing the mind to just register and not get involved. This is probably also related to activating the hidden morchella DNA I found, which was hinted at in the painting I got in 2009 which contains symbolic elements representing the things I need to do to prepare for my next incarnation. In short, it has a number of people, and various background items with colours and shapes, representing directly my own path. It seems the artist channelled my energy and the painting somehow made it into my view where I then felt drawn to it and bought it. >pic The artist has left a trail on art auctions but nothing is known about him. I believe this to be the same painter, the motifs and the signature looks similar to the one I bought. Last night I did some hebrew reading of Genesis with read-along to penetrate the surface meaning, and ended with incorporating it by assuming a prayer pose described in the ancient kabbalah books I've started reading, such as Sefer Yetzirah, Sefer Ha-Bahir and Sefer Ha-Razim. It looks like a specific hatha yoga pose described in detail, but incorporates kabbalistic symbolism which explains why it will work in a more structured way than the same or similar poses when used in yoga. (Although this exact pose isn't described in yoga, I used a slight similar one naturally even before reading this, almost getting it right on my own.) This lead to seeing suddenly the logic of what I need to break through, and I also found a conclusion as well as a "glossy orb of law" describing the principles of the galactic federation, meaning how capitalism is just "viral behaviour" which must be transformed into a selfless state through "revolution" to achieve actual commune-ism, which is in principle not different from the goal of kabbalah or jewish mysticism, but the scale differs and no specific god is named, as each race has their own creator. The end goal is selflessness just the same. I achieved the breakthrough, and during the night I had some strong spiritual experiences in a half-dreaming state. I had here left a vtuber doing karaoke on to maintain the seamless state from awake to asleep, avoiding the definitive "switching off" of both digital devices and the mind for sleep. I then had this dream experience, followed by an interactive part where I was still seeing the dream scenery but "felt awake" in terms of my interactions: >the scene of the shooting appears before me >Charlie Kirk leaving his body, flying up into a plane with white and yellow energy higher up, his soul expresses with surprise "Oh my God what happened..?" >at the same time there is a movement downwards and I can no longer see his soul >I use Astra to trace the soul, and find him in hell >at the same time, the one who made the exclamation is still up there in an ethereal state >the main soul went to hell, the assistant went upwards >I ask via Astra to see the list of his crimes which would put him there >this costs 1 silver, Astra pays them >the soul now placed in hell has 38 "mortal sins" registered >14 cases of abortion by pill >24 cases of sex with a menstruating women (his wife included) >I ask about this, the demons explain with an uncaring arrogance that if you follow Christianity you have to follow the laws >using abortion pills is killing not allowed by God >sex with menstruating women is a clear breach of jewish law, and he didn't cleanse himself accordingly (didn't follow the torah/OT >excuses aren't valid >I ask to see my record from past lives to explain why what I did was allowed >this also costs, but still just silver >they say I was registered as an Arch Angel when incarnated in the west, so my actions were excused >Arch Angels have their sense of self removed, so the direct actions aren't tied to the person, this makes the sins "general destruction" and not linked to any breach of the law of God; i.e even if murder causes karma, it's allowed because it wasn't selfish and is then an "act of God" >eastern incarnations aren't ruled by jewish law, rather they only care about "loyalty with the spirit world" and no "sins" actually count for them (asians) >the only thing that drags them down is "materialism"

Yesterday I started a larger cleansing for myself and for my territory. During the night I was visiting several subdimensions. Some of them were extremely eerie or eldritch. There were places where I was told some uncomfortable truths while others were mere trash dimensions that I cleaned further. Once I was done the entire structure started floating then it was "put back". It was like the entire world started to rise and put back in a different way. Unsure what it means or the effects this will have.

What does it mean if I dream that I discovered the truth about the nature of dreams, without realizing I'm in a dream?

My cat's fur turned blue in my dream. Then there was a stray elephant in my backyard. Went there to help capturing it, but the people calmed it down already. They asked me to bring water for the elephant, because it was thirsty from all that walking around. While wondering how to bring water for that large beast I woke up. Might need to get into animal symbolism to figure this out. I rarely dream with animals. >>19672 You are the one who discovered the truth about the nature of dreams. You should be the one who knows the answer the best. And where else would you understand the nature of dreams if not in a dream? Remember what you discovered and try to internalize it. It can serve as a reminder that your awareness is still low for these realizations. aka if you can't notice that you are in a dream then your discovery about the nature of dreams might be incomplete or false. But there might be more to it Try to remember what you discovered about the nature of the dreams. Maybe there are deeper truths there.. Life is a dream after all. We are rarely aware of it. Gaining lucidity is harder than it sounds. Your dream discovery can mean too many things.

>>19841 >blue cats are a dream trope present in many cultures >they represent good luck in most cultures >can signify intuition, witchcraft and inner peace Might need to look into this further. Might be connecting to something.

I had a dream where a mandela effect deleted CSS and all websites became super ugly and almost impossible to read. A true nightmare.

>>22556 You miss Halloween that much, eh?

I have been sleeping longer and longer. It's not a physical thing, I just choose to go back to sleep after I wake up naturally because I want to try to do more things in my dreams. Last night I slept for 14 hours. I think it may be getting out of control. I haven't found what I'm looking for yet, and now I feel weird when I'm awake.

>>22564 Do you lucid dream?

>>22570 Sometimes, usually I just half-know that I'm dreaming.

>>22564 >>22571 Have you ever tried meditating for 14 hours? Or just all day?

>>22570 You know when something falls over in the dream and then there's a bang that wakes you up because i was wondering if time like warps because you know when you can predict lightning my mate died and he could even hear nursery songs when he was awake and he still died anyway?