>>6402 He's probably talking about all the 4chan /g/ anons who keep going to /ic/ to troll.

>>6403 Grind your AI so you don't suck so much, faggot.

I feel like shit. How do you not get discouraged when you don't have the energy or attention to work on anything and when you do it just immediately turns out like shit. All my life I've just wanted to be able to take these ideas I have in my head and put them on paper and look at that and say "yeah, that's what I was thinking of." I don't have the time to practice, I don't have the attention to try, and when I do it just looks like ass. Also this AI shit really puts a damper on my spirit.

>>6411 You should KYS

>>6411 >How do you not get discouraged when you don't have the energy or attention to work on anything and when you do it just immediately turns out like shit. All my life I've just wanted to be able to take these ideas I have in my head and put them on paper and look at that and say "yeah, that's what I was thinking of." I don't have the time to practice, I don't have the attention to try, and when I do it just looks like ass. There is always more to learn, room to get better, and it's tough to get 100% of your idea on paper every time. About half of artists explore or refine their concepts by doodling or using thumbnails. Ones who can always draw high quality, pre-formed, complex pieces right away are rather rare. As for motivation, just make a habit of drawing every day. Try to draw daily around the same time. If you can't draw, commit to drawing at least a line every day. The way our brains work is they tend to dislike having things unfinished, and once you get started they have easier time continuing with the task. You will often draw a line and then continue to draw more. Once you develop a habit, finding energy will be a non-issue on most days. Just like it does not take much effort to do other routine, daily tasks. A lot of people burn out because they constantly practice and do nothing else. Split drawing time between practice and fun. I always try to incorporate at least a little bit of what I am learing into m "for fun" drawings. For example, if you are learning perspective and want to draw big titty elves, break these elves into geometric shapes first and make sure they are in perspective because you start to add details. It will not only be good practice, but it will make the fun drawings look much better. >Also this AI shit really puts a damper on my spirit. Don't draw for internet likes and attention. Draw for yourself and savor the journey. Try to tap into the meditative aspect of drawing if you can. All AI ultimately does is mash elements from examples. It can't draw anything that was not drawn before.

>>6340 This weekend there was a leak of closed source novel ai's code that was based on stable diffusion. Bunch of forks incorporated that code now, and I had a chance to try some of them. Results can be impressive, but a lot of the art generated feels hollow. You need to play with prompts and make a lot of re-attempts. It's a lot like pulling a lever of slot machine and hoping to get something you want in return. It can be addicting and you can spend hours doing that. At the same time, you will be left hollow if you derive any satisfaction from the usual creative process. People most fucked by the AI >shitty artists with very simplistic styles who cater to coomers >greedy fucks who have few poses in their arsenal and chrn out repetitive commissions of single character >OC donut steel community of artists >Tumblrinas and twitter tracers >Crab bucket ic-tard types who think that being able to draw better than average person makes them special, and now any normalfag will be able to generate something of equvalent quality >Jobber texture, portrait art, and background assets artists in animation and videogames, >Concept artists who can only photobash >clipart and stock art services Once this becomes good enough to handle fingers, toes, and make things photorealistic consistently: >ethots since OF nudes will be worthless >celebs and models >public figures who's faces and photos will be faked be people en masse >idiots who plaster their faces on every social media platform they can >hyper realistic artists >stock photo services As of now, you are safe if: >you can shade well >can draw anything other than standard humans and common everyday objects >you have a complex artstyle >you understand anatomy and how to distort it >you understand perspective and how to distort it >you understand gesture and how to apply it well >you do not exclusively draw one or few character who never interract >you know about soft tissue deformation >you have an idea to convey or a story to tell >you draw images of multiple subjects interacting or reacting to one another Basically, if you are competent and do more than farm likes with anime fanart you will be fine for the time being. In fact, you can use AI to generate variations of your artwork to get some new ideas. Someone competent with image editing will also be able to turn AI slop into something actually good. AI will become another tool in your aresenal, just like photography, digital, and 3D did for many artists. It will suck for beginners who want to put up their art online for attention. You might not be able to build a following without being an advanced artists. Musicians will be in real trouble. There is a finite amount of melodies. Out of them, there are only so many that humans find appealing. Sound based AI is not as advanced as image and text ones. It's only a matter of time however, and it won't be pretty. Having said that, it could fizzle out like 3D printing and VR did, or coexist like 3D printing and digital art do. I still remember when these technologies were going to upturn everything. AI also faces dangers of litigation. Sooner or later some artists will try to get royalties from their art being used as samples or training tools for AIs. There is also an issue of copyright, and some closed source projects charging per piece and still hiding behind "research" arguments might get in trouble. Here is a video that makes some good points. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tjSxFAGP9Ss

I think I've finally found out something that's been at the core of my artistic dysfunctions. Anxiety over wasted time and hatred for slow progress Of course, yet another fucking thing that exists thanks to my fucking parents own traumas. Jesus fuck, I'm so fucking tired of digging up traumas and then finding out it's because of my parents. Jesus fuck, I already I know I have daddy and mommy issues, but fuck me it's like every single trauma I dig up, of course it's their fault, and it's their fault because their fucking parents caused that trauma to them too... Fuck me, mental trauma is the thing nobody fucking asks for but absolutely everyone is given. But really, I've had problems with perfectionism, with impostor syndrome, yet everything at the root of this is because my progress is being glacial slow, and everything fucking feedback-loops into itself. >(Feel like) I suck at art, need to draw more to git gud. >Drawing more is just a waste of time, why don't I just draw something big down. >Real artists do X, you're not a real artist if you don't do X. >Put down a bare minimum of guidelines >oh, it's out of shape, you didn't do X, a real artist does X >You're fucking wasting time >why bother? You're just wasting time, go do better things... >(delete the page out of frustration) I'm tired of this shit. I just wanna suck in peace, and yet at the same time I want to draw things good so I can get on with my life... Yet I completely forgot about drawing just for the sake of drawing... As a kid, I didn't give a shit how bad or good my art was, I just did it because it was fun. What am I missing? How do I avoid feeling guilty about wasted time?

https://www.youtube.com/@artchad That nigger stole my name in 2019. He was there, saw my name and stole it. Guess I have to pick another name.

I don't have much drive for improvement. It makes for mostly pain-free artmaking and I do other things with the time I don't spend grinding, but sometimes it kinda bothers me like a small itch and I'm scared I might regret it. I'm getting old

>>6691 Suggestion: artchud

I've been managing my friend's caricature stand for the last week. The money's been good, but the commute and parking sucks. I also decided to start prototyping my tabletop RPG and doing the art for it in my spare time at the stand. I've been working a lot more in the last year and it definitely keeps me more in the swing of just being able to lay down some lineart a lot faster than I used to but the problem is the commute back (like 1.5-2 hours) is so draining that I feel too tired to keep going. The only thing I prefer about the theme park over this is the short commute. Hopefully I can take a fucking break soon. I just need a break from constantly working or driving or having to be with people to make the shit I care about making and trying to make all of it fit is starting to depress me.

>>6707 A short commute is nice, good and honestly an important benefit. I know people that drive an hour or more one way to work. Two hours you don't get paid for/have to spend gas on. It's messed up

Hey anon, do you have the files for http://artfovwylhl7wlkcmnp35zb5cyqqydjl2zk24xklroeotfaund4r5aad.onion/index.html ? I can send you art proof that it's me, via the communication channel of your choice. Also, I feel decent.

>>6709 I ain't clickin' that shit nigga

>>6710 Oh it's just artchad, hey, man

After years of putting it off I'm gonna open commissions and actually sell my art instead of offering it for free to the masses. It feels like selling out - even though I know it's not, not really. I just have this pride in posting and doing things for free (it also protects me from having to actually maintain a certain level of quality). Anyone struggling with these feelings, or is it just litteral first-world problems-tier for rich kids who've never gone hungry?

>>6746 Literally everyone gets paid to "do what they do". If you're a high enough proficiency to earn a living making art than you ought to. If you're just musing and larping though you wouldn't be alone, either.

>>6340 AI is only an issue for stupid gay illustrators. And I'm being very specific when I say illustrators, because they are soulless faggots that only create stock images. Artists need not fear AI, since, like anons say, its about the creative process as a hobby and also the fact that if you are creating art professionally no AI can replicate a human because AI is homogeneous. Even if it is trained on your works it will only ever be able to create a middle-of-the-road derivative of you. But you alone can create a new and unique artwork.

>>6764 this is not mine if someone assumes

>>6764 I don't like AI because of the intention behind it, which is to further disenfranchise working artists (intentional) and demoralized those with the potential to become such (perhaps unintentional). I also feel it is an attack on artistic endeavor itself; the AI artist is deprived of the satisfaction of true creation and in its place he's given the spiritual equivalent of a graciously specific google image search. The content generated itself I am totally ambivalent to.

Feeling interesting. Mixture between: depressed disoriented hopeful content calm sad cheerful

My relationship is ending in about two months and it's been getting steadily worse for the remainder of it. I worry that it's going to affect my art. Either I'll have a terrible depressive period where I don't draw anymore or I'll go crazy into it and never heal from the hurt. Sucks because I have an art job and I'm worried about it fucking up my work because it's starting to get better pay wise.

>>6868 Try not to let the past subsume you lad. You and your art are bigger than your deteriorating relationship to this person

>>6869 Thanks man. It's just painful because we've been together for nearly three years and we're hard cutting it after the three year mark and we both make art.

I forgot how funny and based this thread is, I love you guys, that's it, that's the blog post

I applied for a job to teach photoshop lol. I didn't get it but I thought it was funny. Now I'm applying for a job to sell "arts and crafts" supplies but I hope I wouldn't have to grow and color my hair

>>6965 Wearing a covid mask to hide your cleft chin and peach fuzz mustache 5 years and 15 inoculations later while having a name tag that says something like Persephone or Luna is the only way you're getting that job unfortunately. Best of luck though

>>6981 It's either that or accountant. Now that I think about it, I could always draw using Excel LibreOffice Calc...

>>3408 >haven't drawn anything for months >whenever I tryna draw seriously I get stuck at the boxes and stuff. >practice drawing memes or sum >somehow someday I just draw something >looks good why can't I just draw man? maybe I should take it less seriously and try to enjoy it more, but I want to make a Webcomic to tell a story and my life is too short, I dont want to just one day die an not share my vision and fears. maybe I should have the srufer aproach, just to enjoy the journey. because I love what i do

>>6990 You're me

>going through old sketchbooks >see work I've done from ten years ago >feel like I haven't improved/pushed myself at all

>>7267 Maybe you haven't, but that's no excuse to give up now. The best time to get started was 10 years ago, the second best time is today!

I don't know if the people who know who I am still lurk this board, but I've reached a crisis of faith with my art. After my latest drawings I went into with confidence turned into a struggle, I started doubting myself at every turn and forgetting things I knew and I ended up with pictures that are "early 2000s deviantart tier" according to some people. I thought I was a good artist and that my art looked good and now I'm losing sleep over the fact that I'm not good. I'm being surpassed by people who are over a decade younger than me and I have no idea what I can do to improve and it's actually breaking me. I'm feeling people's judging perceptions of my art and they are destroying me. Like I'm starting to believe them that I'm only capable of producing /aco/ slop and this is the peak of my ability. I feel like that one comic panel of Captain America with his shield shattered. I feel so vulnerable and worthless.

>>7272 You're an odd fella, PJ, however you've clearly shown that you can draw at a level above ground zero and that means you may be able to reach greater heights, yet. You're higher than the first floor, but if you want to stand tall like a skyscraper, towering towards the heavens with no end in sight, you will really have to be disciplined. Do a lot of figure drawing, study perspective-for real, try and reverse-engineer some of your favorite artists' stylization choices or rendering techniques and keep putting out personal work you genuinely enjoy to do on as regular a basis as you can manage or risk burning out. Don't sell yourself short or feel small, you could be a big guy eventually but if you don't proceed mindfully you can forget about those top floor suites, you may never get out of the lobby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW03fyEDeOk

>>6868 Update: we had a fight a few days before my birthday and she decided not to see me. Anniversary is in like two weeks, I think I'm just gonna end it idk

>>6990 Then just draw, if thats what you enjoy