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PC Hardware & News Thread: Huangrifting Chinkikel Edition Anonymous 02/01/2025 (Sat) 18:03:56 Id: f5987d No. 1067011
>Discuss PC Hardware & News >Share Specs & Pics Current News >AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT performance leaks https://archive.ph/50Jrz >Deepseek (ChinkGPT) Causes a frenzy throughout the tech world after sharp drop in overvalued companies like NVIDIA Last Thread >>1045288
>>1079063 >/pol/ Don't give him too much credit, its a retarded canuckold.
>>1079028 >I don't fucking want it. I don't want it. Same here, thats why I stopped playing vidya altogether. Its been 3 months and i feel different, Now I have more time to myself and my hobbies. And its not only me but a lot of friends too. I feel that the gaming industry is truly dying now. Not even the normies care about gaems anymore now kek.
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>>1079059 God you're a retard, doubting daddy trump (USER FELL FOR IT AGAIN)
>>1078989 >>1078991 >>1078992 Guy talks too fast. Likely feels the information he has to cram in requires it. Still, it can be hard enough for a layman to grasp these things without spitting them like an auctioneer. I think it works against him. Also given how many libtards are sold on "no mean tweets" I already know for a fact it'll be quite easy to turn more idiots against him based on tone alone. If he believes "being right" is all that matters in a debate he's very sheltered & unfortunately very wrong. We can wish that's how it works, but most people are (if not by nature) conditioned to be manipulated emotionally. "Facts & logic" autists lack the tools to deal with that & it's almost painful to see them step on the same rake every time. Regardless, hoping some devs who DO understand it actually listen since he is demystifying the technology, revealing WHY things are like this & cutting away the marketing bullshit instead of just being an industry cheerleader like those DF scammers.
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>>1079081 >If he believes "being right" is all that matters in a debate he's very sheltered & unfortunately very wrong He belongs with us.
>>1079083 He earned my respect for causing NVIDIA to make a damage control video.
>>1079083 Look up gish galloping, you'll never lose a debate again.
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>>1079083 >>1079088 His autistic commitment to the bit is endearing. I really hope if/when they show their own project that it looks good. It would be nice for them to have a project to backup themselves up.
>>1079095 I hope so too anon.
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>>1078989 This guy's thumbnails are so funny, why does he look so ominous?
>>1078954 >>1079059 I wonder why this place has so many more kike shills defending Zion Don's retardation, compared to other small imageboards.
>>1079178 I wonder why retards call everyone who disagrees with them a shill.
>>1079062 >actually tariffs were also used to tax the fuck out of everyone 80 years ago Uh, okay? >>1079064 >implementing simple tariffs? None of you understand what a tariff is. Putting tariffs on goods you don't have pre-existing local manufacturing for is literally just a tax increase. Not only that, but it is inflationary because even the amount of local manufacturing that you might have, just increases their prices to match the tariffed goods. Which is why you don't see anyone refuting me by diving into the economics of tariffs but just saying that any criticism of Trump raping the economy is liberal hysteria as everyone's 401k's fucking nose dive after historic highs in the market. Keep defending kikes taxing you into oblivion though you subhuman faggots.
>>1079184 >Putting tariffs on goods you don't have pre-existing local manufacturing for is literally just a tax increase. The entire point is to entice local manufacturing. But of course you know this.
>>1079185 What's more likely? That companies will move to America to build factories, because of tariffs, or that they will weather out the storm, and wait for the next administration to remove them, maybe even Trump himself as not all tariffs are permanent, and until then the consumer will foot the bill, not China or Canada.
>>1079185 Which might be the only barely passable argument for the tariffs, if it weren't for the fact that Trump is actively pushing to cancel the chips act to bring semiconductor manufacturing back to the US away from Asian under the threat of China. And that's ignoring the fact that as >>1079192 pointed out, it takes the better part of a decade to spin up local manufacturing after depending on Asia for it for so long. So the economy will perform like complete shit for 4 years, Trumps ratings will go into the shitter, Canada will be guaranteed a Liberal victory this election, and the Democrats will get a free win in the next American election. All the global right wing momentum will be fucked, and you fucking retards still won't have a grasp on basic economic concepts. Trump is literally just fucking retarded. There is no plan, there is no logic. He isn't brilliant, he isn't malicious, he isn't conniving. He's unironically just a fucking idiot surrounded by dumb fucks.
>>1079195 >don't do anything to bring manufacturing back, because I think it won't work! Trying to do anything is bad! Nice try.
>>1079196 Notice how this faggot completely ignores the part of my post criticizing Trump for wanting to cancel the chips act, which is explicitly about bringing massive amounts of manufacturing back to the US. You really need to get better at your shilling rhetoric faggot. One liner strawmen can't keep up with me.
>>1079199 That's an old line that's already grown boring. We all know that every time someone says one of these bills is about something, it's actually about a thousand other things, including the exact opposite of what its actual shills say it's about. You're also misusing the word shill. It doesn't apply in this context. Nobody is trying to sell anything here. There's nothing being sold. You need to brush up on your local lingo.
>>1079200 Okay, so just so we're clear. Your argument against bipartisan bills that will bring manufacturing of the worlds semiconductor supply to the US, is that the fabs in this video don't actually exist, and aren't actually being built? https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=IUIh0fOUcrQ Painting yourself red in this bizarre humiliation ritual doesn't make you any less of a kike shill.
>>1079203 >Your argument... is that the fabs in this video don't actually exist, and aren't actually being built? Now as a reminder, here is the quote he's referring to. >>1079200 >every time someone says one of these bills is about something, it's actually about a thousand other things, including the exact opposite of what its actual shills say it's about. So you're not even trying to actually address the point made. Funny how you accuse others of strawman, but then just ignore the actual quote and make up a completely unrelated argument that you can try to argue against instead. But I'm sure you support every time they call something the "Love America Bill" or whatever, while it's actually sending an extra trillion dollars to Israel and The Ukraine. Because don't you love America? And it's not like bills ever actually include a zillion unrelated (or even contradictory) things in them.
>>1079204 >starts instinctively reddit spacing and freaking out when confronted with hard evidence against his narratives Lmfao
>>1079195 You are half right, Zion don is a complete retard who has no idea what he is doing, but his butt buddies at black rock at least have half a brain to work with. The east asian markets, with the exception of Japan, are stonewalling them from buying up infrastructure/farmland and they are finding themselves in a weird situation as their entire business model of being an investment manager is predicated on their assets continually being worth more year over year. A lot of these Schizophrenic tarriffs aren't designed around making foreigners, or americans 'pay', its about fucking over enough manufacturers and farmers that the acquisitions can continue for at least a few more years. There is no real plan beyond that, thats a plan for the board of directors/ new ceo after that kike larry fink retires in three or four years.
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>PC hardware thread is normal >Retarded leaf spergs out over Orangeman bad! out of nowhere Very organic.
>>1079199 >Trump for wanting to cancel the chips act, which is explicitly about bringing massive amounts of manufacturing back to the US The CHIPs act was never about manufacturing, it was about pushing political propaganda as anyone who wanted that money had to spend large amounts of money establishing DEI divisions.
Can someone explain to me the rumors that intel is going to bail on making GPUs after Celestial? It just doesn't seem to make sense to me, the B580 was both well received and sold so well that it was basically out of stock everywhere, how is it possible for that not to be profitable?
>>1079699 Most likely opportunity cost. Why waste money selling budget gpus when your main cpu business selling millions of devices each year is on fire? Now how long until AV2 gets hardware-accelerated decoding?
>kinda want to make infograph about some common peripherals >not sure how to make them look half decent please someone bully me into doing it >>1079699 Intel's GPU are all loss leaders currently and they have a massively oversized die compared to what similarly performing GPUs u17se which is bad when it's on a process where a wafer is $17k, they've also not had the impact they wanted with alchemist which is why battlemage is so limited in scope (two SKU with low production numbers in the most popular market segment) but they're kinda stuck with it because by the time alchemist launched celestial was already paid for. If Celestial is another limited scope launch there's a good chance nothing else comes after, at least not in the consumer space. If you see big Battlemage come out and it's the same success followed by good numbers on Celestial (and a full scope launch) then maybe it's gonna be continued >>1079877 >Why waste money selling budget gpus Those are a byproduct of making HPC / enterprise stuff which is where the money is, I'm fairly sure intel made more money selling their AV1 encode accelerator cards in bulk than selling consumer GPU, but the R&D for both is a near total overlap so why not try to create a market especially when there's a lack of competition. And a chunk of the R&D for dGPUs is also covered by them needing IGPUs
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>>1079886 >please someone bully me into doing it You make them half decent by making sure everything is legible & keeping it simple, stupid! That includes the font too so you better use something readable like IBM Plex Sans or Franklin Gothic, none of that Serif shit! Don't make the infograph so small that you have to cram all that shit together & make it look so constrained! If I need a magnifying glass to read your print, you fucked up! But that doesn't give you permission to inflate your infograph to bigger proportions either! You're not making this shit for Godzilla & his oversized computer, you faggot! You want to make your peripherals look decent? Keep the pictures of them within the same size range of each other! Something like 256x256! The item looks squished at that size? Use your eyes then & modify it enough that you feel it looks right! I don't need to see every key letter & number on that keyboard, I want to see the entire item! The white background & black text still work to this day for visual appearance, don't fix what's not broken! No gradients and no dark mode-like appearance, you want to easily update your infograph in the future, don't you? One of those devices might need an internet connection to update the firmware or phone home, maybe they're too expensive now and something better exists as an alternative, or perhaps one item is better suited for playing hentai porn games than making OpenOffice presentations! I don't fucking know, these are your items you should be talking about! Get out there & go make your god damn infograph! I've given you enough pointers to drill into your smooth brain, now fuck off!
>>1080386 Well just need to prepare the text and image then Ones I'm planning to do for sure >Headphones / Headsets / Accessories especially need to correct the record on the whole "headset bad" meme, it's not quite as true anymore >Controllers for PC China literally blew the fucking market to bits >Gayming mice need to brush up on the current stuff a bit I'm still back in 2023 land where the whole batch of hot new chink meme mices weren't a thing yet One I'd like to do but not really deep enough into the tism pit for something on the level of the previous 3 >Keyboards granted right now the best option is get a K120 or make your own DIY mech KB from aliexpress parts Ones that would be cool to have but have literally no in depth knowledge on >monitors would basically boil down to "it's all shit currently wait for cheaper OLEDs / better tech and just get the cheapest fast IPS you can find right now" >speakers especially since there's already some really great ressources for that that I couldn't ever hope to match
>>1080489 I doubt any anon's ability to make an actually good peripheral chart. Mice and keyboards are highly subjective and context dependent.
>>1080557 >Mice are highly subjective Besides shapes not really no >context dependent I can't think of many things you'd want to change besides cheaper mouse if you're not a big gaymer (perfect sensor 5 button mice now start at $15, you really gonna get something considerably worse to save $10 maybe, I don't think so) >Keyboards Those are hard simply because you can DIY everything and besides glaring hardware issues with the PCB / firmware it's pretty much gonna be exactly what you want be it shape, switches, keycaps, budget, really the one hard to find answer is "where the fuck can I get a NKRO membrane keyboard that isn't fucking Topre or just as pricy" Headphone do have those issues, it's very subjective and very context dependent but with a wide enough brush you can give out general buying advice and a wide enough rec list that'll be enough for people that aren't looking for an extremely specific thing
>>1080561 MMO mouse vs traditional, optical clicks to mitigate double clicking, then there's a million shapes and styles. >Keyboards HE boards with a good rapid trigger implementation are basically mandatory for competitive shooters. >really the one hard to find answer is "where the fuck can I get a NKRO membrane keyboard that isn't fucking Topre or just as pricy" They don't exist, the mechanical meme market obliterated any development of membrane keyboards. You either accept that your CAPSLOCK key is functionally useless or you "upgrade" to mechanical/optical/HE keyboards that are loud as fuck.
>>1080564 >They don't exist, Actually they do, Monoprice had one and still might be selling it and I recall some autistic shitflinging about mechanical keyboard in an older hardware thread that ended up digging a membrane keyboard with 6KRO and a TKL layout.
>rtx pro
I have a 3080 12Gb set-up that's about as good as the gen can be but I'm ACHING to get AI shit running faster. Whatever muh nu build is it's probably not going to be used for vidya (as I've got 60+ games installed on here and can run them all comfortably) just AI-ing, the GPU is of course the main concern and that's where I'm pausing, I'm willing to drop 4 grand on the rig overall but I want VRAM out the ass.

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