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Japanese learning thread Anonymous 11/07/2022 (Mon) 17:21:19 Id: 595618 No. 729151
I have no idea how to bake this thread I'm just copying from zchan thread pls help me. Archive of previous thread - https://archive.is/rJ3Wh Step 0. Resource Acquisition Go here to get Anki, a flash card program: http://ankisrs.net/ Here are some suggested decks: Core2k/6k: https://mega.nz/#!QIQywAAZ!g6wRM6KvDVmLxq7X5xLrvaw7HZGyYULUkT_YDtQdgfU KanjiDamage: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187 Kana: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1632090287 Tae Kim's grammar: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/242060646 Other Resources RealKana: http://realkana.com/ (alternate version) https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html Click the column of characters you want to study and type the corresponding romaji into the box as they appear Kana Invaders: https://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/ Space Invaders/Galaga style clone. Type the romaji to shoot the kana alien KanjiVG: http://kanji.sljfaq.org/kanjivg.html Simply plug the character in and instantly get a stroke order diagram Forvo.com: http://ja.forvo.com/ Type in a word or phrase to hear a native speaker's pronunciation Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/ Great introduction to Nipponese, you can start here to learn basic grammar and vocabulary KanjiDamage: http://www.kanjidamage.com/ Learn Kanji by using mnemonics and radicals Mainichi browser extension: http://mainichi.me/ Learn a new vocabulary word every time you open a new tab JapaneseClass: http://japaneseclass.jp/ Learn Nipponese by playing games (requires registration) DJT Guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/ [YOUTUBE VIDEOS] JapanesePod101: https://www.youtube.com/user/japanesepod101/videos Namasensei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqJ5wU4FamA&list=PL9987A659670D60E0
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JapaneseVideocast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX6kjDZDLD_dNyrkdvTRKVKIJRo4g7xFD From previous thread Gonna leave these here for those that belieb
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The Guy with mega of japanese dub movies Use the decoder below to get the link & key. YUhSMGNITTZMeTl0WldkaExtNTZMMlp2YkdSbGNpOVpjekI1VWtGdlF3PT0= X1FrMmpJaVQ0aXpZVGhYS241UGNMUQ== The unironic links guy For beginner/early level: https://www.youtube.com/c/ComprehensibleJapanese For more intermediate levels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh-GhnQ7qDQmS6Bz3pGc1Mw https://www.youtube.com/c/nihongonomori2013 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcCeJ3pQYFgvfVuMxVRWhoA
>>1070709 So I went through the kanji transition deck and I'm now about 65% through the kaishi 1.5k. Right now, when it comes to words I find when I'm reading, I don't add them to the deck because I figure I'm already taxing my memory with the new words that are already in there. So if I pick up new words when reading then cool, if not then I'll put them in the deck when I finish it. Also bro you only need one day to take the exam. Unless you have to fly somewhere to take it I guess.
>>1070710 The state I live in does have a test center. Unsure if I'd pass it as IRL shit keeps throwing off the absolute focus and time required to consistently study. By study I mean either trying to read something machine assisted for a couple of hours a day or find some pirate stream of a Japanese channel and hope that auditory immersion is a thing because fuck if they don't talk at lightspeed. I was gifted a lifetime subscription to Rosetta Stone (I really hope she got that at a discount) but reports on that being any good range from mixed to negative. May as well eke out time to try out the audio parts so it doesn't go to waste.
>>1070711 >trying to read something machine assisted for a couple of hours a day or find some pirate stream of a Japanese channel and hope that auditory immersion If you just want to see if you can pass the N5 then you don't need to do that stuff. Like eventually sure, but for the n5 the first 12 genki lessons and some vocab will get you through.
>>1070710 >Right now, when it comes to words I find when I'm reading, I don't add them to the deck because I figure I'm already taxing my memory with the new words that are already in there Anon, language is a life skill, and "taxing your memory" is kind of the point as your brain is a muscle that doesn't work and learn unless your push it. The only way you can "overexert" yourself is if you're doing more than the standard 10 cards a day. Even then, you should begin recognizing how the kanji play off each other when when it comes to vocabulary. >>1070711 > By study I mean either trying to read something machine assisted for a couple of hours a day or find some pirate stream of a Japanese channel and hope that auditory immersion is a thing because fuck if they don't talk at lightspeed. Just pull up a Japanese podcast, stream, or video on JewTube, NicoNico, or FC2 and listen to that while working. And starting reading hentai only in Japanese and add a Japanese news source to your feed: https://infogalactic.com/info/Japanese_newspapers Even set the devices that you can to Japanese. It's not that hard. Unless it's entirely in kana, then you're fucked at the moment. Also, you're not suppose to recognize it all.
>>1070733 >if you're doing more than the standard 10 cards a day I thought the default was 20 since that is what Anki usually defaults to, and here I am doing 33 new cards per day(3 decks 11 cards) and after more than half a year (with some breaks here and there) my mental state is nearing breaking point, but it's hard to say if it's because of how much I learn or not. >inb4 why 33 and not 30 Well if you do 30 per day that means 900 per month, so if you just add 3 more cards each day, that's 1000 per month.
>>1070733 Nah I think I'll do this the way I want to.
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Got no clue if they belong here, but I might as well post them to raise post quality here.
>>1070835 Nice anon. I'm going to repost them on a certain thread on /vb/.
For some reason famitsu seems to be read from left to right. Are other japanese magazines like this?
>>1071836 The text or the entire magazine itself?
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>>1071837 You can see page 24 on the left and 25 on the right and they're clearly meant to be laid out that way.
>>1070558 Wrong. N5 is a terrible condition, often terminal. The cure is reading imouto incest light novels and doing Anki reps every day.
>>1071836 Yeah looking at pictures of physical Famitsu mags, it looks like they are left to right. IIRC most magazines there are right-to-left, but there are some that do left-to-right. Just up to whoever makes it.
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>first two paragraphs are a complete waste of page space Famitsu is a fuckin rag.
>>1072164 Alright I finished it. It's one of the worst reviews I've ever read. I mean I don't understand it 100 percent clearly but even despite that it's completely awful. He spends the first half of the review introducing himself and then the next quarter giving vague impressions of how the game made him feel, then goes on about how while his friends were amazed at the graphics HE was amazed by the sound of the bell the famicom disk system could produce. The only thing he actually mentions that makes me think he played the game for more than 5 minutes is that he says he liked the gleeoks sprite but he probably could have just seen that in some footage or something. He finishes the review by saying the game is kind of hard and that the protagonist is weak so I suppose it's possible that he could have played the game but not been able to get very far. The stupid thing about this though is that zelda had been out for multiple months at that point so it's not like he didn't have time to go through it or something. It seems like they just got someone who didn't play the game to just spew bullshit over two pages of the magazine to fill space.
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>>1072218 The more things change the more they stay the same huh?
So it turns out that the English speaking countries are not the only one's who still use "retarded" imperial measurement systems. Allow me to introduce you to the JAPANESE units of measurement, the 尺貫法: https://infogalactic.com/info/Japanese_units_of_measurement Yes, these are important as they are still in use. I hope this revelation greatly improved your day.
>>1073207 I haven't heard of any of those being used other than the ri but that's fallen out of use since it's roughly the distance a laden man can walk in a day.
Sorry, an hour not a day.
Waste of time when translation LLMs exist.
>>1073216 They can't translate racial slurs properly.
>>1073217 お前はバカなニガーだ。
>>1073218 Someone see if open ai will translate that and say the freedom word.
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>>1073221 >Someone see if open ai >open ai
>>1073216 Games are a waste of time when drugs exist.
>>1073207 They're just used for esoteric cultural shit. Canada and the UK use Imperial on a casual basis 100x more than anyone Japan uses their old measurements. >>1073216 Why cook my own food when restaurants do it for me?
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In today's episode of Japanese vocabulary, we are going to look at the term 「姨捨て山」: >1. mountain where old people were abandoned (according to legend)​ >2. position or division in a company to which an old and ineffective person is transferred​ >3. women's college
why are jlpt levels even important? media doesn't restrict itself to certain levels. you're gonna find basic crap like 「この先は通れません」 mixed with N1 stuff like 「どこへ逃げようとも無駄だ」 (no matter where you go, there's no escape)
>>1076803 Yeah, of course JLPT is pretty useless for gauging exactly how good someone is. But JLPT doesn't really gauge how well you can consume media but tries to test how well you can communicate IRL. If you walk up to people and all you can do are N4 ”今日はいい天気ですね?” people probably won't pull out the N1 grammar on you. Tons of companies require N2 and N1, because theoretically someone that completes N2 can probably do his menial salariman job. (Not always though, many stories of guys that can blaze through N1 but can't communicate IRL, and vice versa, I've seen lots of people who write, read, and speak circles around me but failed N2 last December.) Also on that note, one of JLPT's failings is not having a speaking test, but that would probably be a logistical nightmare to proctor. JLPT is honestly just a lazy retard/ weeb filter at this point though, reading LNs and VNs for a year or two will get most dedicated people to functionally N2 or N1 anyway. Or probably beyond. Any company that requires certification will make exceptions if you don't have an actual cert, if you can prove you're able to communicate.
>>1077077 >but tries to test how well you can communicate IRL Not really, since there is no speaking test. All it tests is how well you can follow orders from your boss, and how well you can read documents to know what to sign for your boss, the Japanese boss doesn't even want to hear you speak, only nod in approval at what he tells you to do. >that would probably be a logistical nightmare to proctor. And yet, it's not a problem for English, German, French and plenty of other language proficiency tests.
>>1076803 I mean, this is a problem in English, too. The Dale–Chall readability formula (reading at a 10th grade level, 7th grade level, etc) is semi-arbitrary and has little correlation with the age of a person. The average person reads at an "8th grade level", that kind of invalidates the whole concept. I believe Othello is at a 12th grade reading level, 17-year-olds do not write and talk like that.
>>1077101 You don't have to write or talk like a 12 grade reading level to read at a 12th grade level. You just need to be able to understand the words and grammar.
>>1077077 >>1077080 speaking tests are not all they're cracked up to be. you can pass one without major hassle yet completely make an ass of yourself in an interview afaik exams exist solely to make you pay to tick a checkbox that says "this guy is likely not bullshitting you"
>>1077077 >tries to test how well you can communicate IRL Thats literally the opposite of what it does.
>>1079984 Yeah that's why it's a joke to everyone. I should have added an asterisk saying *that's what Japan Foundation says it does. Also I guess my original answer to f547b9 should have been more along the lines of "while yes, media doesn't adjust to your level, real life people and situations do." At a surface level too it's kind of helpful to attempt to assign a level to people, if someone is an N5 you know all they can do is WATASHI WAAA and if someone is N2 you can probably talk about anything with them. >>1077080 Well the JLPT is a shitshow. Adding a logistical fork into the bureaucracy is unthinkable for a Jap. So adding a spoken section to this would be an insurmountable task. Basically Japan Foundation sucks. I wanted to do N2 last winter and there were 60 spots for my closest test and they filled up nearly instantly. I don't know why they have only 60 spots for this fucking thing when Japanese is way more popular than ever. They also don't do a summer test in America so I guess it's either wait until next year or take a summer vacation to Canada.

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