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/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General Anonymous 12/22/2018 (Sat) 00:15:45 No. 10801
Welcome to the Sonic The Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic! /sthg/ #21 - Merry Christmas, /sthg/ Edition >Sonic News< Sonic Unleashed and all DLC added to Xbox One backward compatibility program, greatly improves performance https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/SONIC-UNLEASHED/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80253450812 Sonic Mania Adventures Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpfIblkRspQ Sonic Annual Comic coming in March, cover by Yuji Uekawa https://comicbook.com/2018/12/20/exclusive-sonic-hedgehog-annual-yuji-uekawa-cover/ Sonic Forces: Speed Battle Christmas Event https://twitter.com/SEGAHARDlight/status/1075435592635293696 IDW Sonic Issue 15 Solicit https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN190808 https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN190809 >General Interest Links< General Link Compilation https://pastebin.com/gSsdpUB5 Sonic Film News https://pastebin.com/r2iZ0yFm /sthg/'s Refurbished Drawfag Booru http://sthg.booru.org/ Event/Video Streaming Site https://cytu.be/r/sthg /sthg/ Bumper Engine Latest Release https://mega.nz/#!Wd1FXBTY!KWJFIn3rTMUkLhiVYdWiV5SXulh6FCAEAi3b9sQxrZQ Previous Zone: >>10170
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I hope this will be a comfy Christmas thread.
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>>10803 Same here, looking forward to the big day
fast
So it seems like that legs Sonic movie poster has begun making the rounds across the country. Between that & the recent Twitter account for the film, I'm kinda scared in regards to what the trailer is gonna be like.
>>10806 Well, it's probably best to go in with rock bottom expectations. As sad as that is to say.
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https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1076256150213951488 Ending art from part 6 of Mania Adventures.
>>10788 >I hope it's actually called Pillar because it would indecate a division for Sonic genres this franchises needed since Sonic 06, How does Pillar say that more than Sonic Team? >Classic Sonic games >Adventure Sonic games >Boost games. >That's how Sonic should be to handle this series better. Stop pandering to everyone in one game ffs. Honestly, I feel that the biggest problem is not the division of the games in terms of gameplay styles, but how they mix the direction in the games, like how they both clearly want to cater to kiddies but not completely lose the interest of the fanbase in the process (which they fail at). I was hoping Boom would at least serve to give some relief in that sense by having the lame parts of the franchise confined to that subfranchise and tested there where they could make whatever experiment they wanted without people fretting, and allowing Modern to have more focused and coherent games, but Boom is probably dead so this isn't happening. Obviously, the better option is to have Classic, Adventure, and Boost games and all of them being good, but fat chance that's ever going to happen. Instead of either of these scenarios we're stuck with the worst case where there's only one subfranchise outside of Classic and they're just going to keep doing what they do with it, to our detriment.
So is anyone expecting any Sonic-related Christmas presents this year?
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>>10806 This is going to get pretty bad. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it, just take solace in the parts of the franchise that you enjoy (games/comics/tv shows/music/communities/other stuff) and hunker down.
>>10810 yeah I'm expecting aaron to post something cool for Sonic Adventure's 20th anniversary on the 23rd. it's going to be the best sonic-related christmas present ever and it's totally going to happen! :(
>>10812 Or take a break from Sonic if need be. I'm sure there are some that are probably doing that now until a mainline game is announced.
>>10813 I'm sure they'll post some art or something. Or maybe not, they might be on break for the holidays.
>>10809 > like how they both clearly want to cater to kiddies but not completely lose the interest of the fanbase in the process This isn't exclusive to Sonic Team, nor SEGA, but all busniess which get most of them in trouble. Even babbies first platformer Kirby got so easy people started hating him for it. If no one bitched before, don't change it. That's all you need to do. And don't over compensate when they do complain, or else you get Lost World. The rest of this pose reeks of "patterns" when out of the blue they liqufied Sonic Team when they didn't even do this during SA1-2 era and only did this in the 90s for profits. Now Sonic is nowhere as big anymore, so why even split off to America of all places? If they just wanted to go even more bare minimum for Sonic, they'd keep him in Japan and just cameo him in Puyo Puyo or Mario's Olympic games.
>>10815 I bet you it'll just be a meme about Big the Cat or something like that
>>10808 https://twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/1076250169098756096 Oh, here's Hesse posting a time-lapse of him making the Metal/Eggman ending card.
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No Blue Rats Allowed
>>10810 I am making myself a Sonic related Christmas ornament if that counts
Humblebundle has a lot of sonic games for not much money currently.
>>10822 Too bad I already paid for half of those games in the past, so the only one I'd "have" to get because memes is Forces. Which I will not pay for unless it's ~5 dollars. That's all it's worth when Colors, Rush, the Classics/Mania, Generations and Unleashed exist in my possession.
>>10822 I already got all the Sonic games on PC, but good for anyone who will get into the series thanks to it.
>>10818 >Just remembered that I did the paintings for Ep6's end credits on an iPad Is that something advisable to do?
>>10823 $1 - sonic 4 episode 1, sonic adventure dx, sonic cd, sonic & sega all-stars racing, sonc adventure 2 + battle dlc. $7 - sonic & all-stars racing transformed collection, sonic lost world, sonic generations collection, sonic 4 episode 2. $15 - sonic mania, sonic forces yeah a bit expensive for just forces
>>10820 Show pics
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>>10828 maybe when it's done
>>10820 That's cool. Hopefully you can show us when it's finished.
>>10829 RIP fish people.
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>>10833 Why is Sonic cursed to have the worst sense of humor?
>>10834 Because Sonic a lame.
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>>10836 It's true.
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>>10837 He'll be cool again someday, he just needs to make better jokes
>>10839 All Sonic knows how to do is beat up robots and be stylish about it.
>>10835 Sonic is a lame like Dante is a lame. They're so lame they become cool.
>>10840 Hey, that's not true! He can run fast, breakdance & drive
I feel a strange sense of happiness when i see sonic mentioned randomly – am i autistic?
>>10843 Nah, it's always pretty cool to see the franchise mentioned at random. Besides the "Sanic/Sonic was never good" stuff, I mean.
>>10842 Sonic should give up being a hero and become a professional race car driver.
>>10843 I laughed when a WWE wrestler said another wrestler dressed in all blue looked like Sonic on TV recently.
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>>10845 Well, he already has a car to use
>>10843 I know that feel, thought the best is when I see people with Sonic stuff randomly on the street. It's an unusual occurrence here.
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>>10847 Sonic can be a NASCAR superstar!
>>10847 Oh fuck, that reminds me of that race recently where a Sega sponsored car ran in. I don't remember if I ended up seeing it or not.
>>10851 That was the car. It ran during the NASCAR Xfinity race at Indianapolis.
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Night /sthg/
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>>10854 G'night anon.
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Do you have anything signed by Sonic Team /sthg/? Whose signature would you want to have the most? I am going to get Uekawa's signature one day, you'll see ;_;
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https://youtu.be/F_-vTRc9hd4 Do you think speed core would ever be used for a Sonic game's soundtrack /fast/?
>>10856 Don't have anything autographed, but I would love to get an Uekawa or an Yuji Naka signature someday. Okay, now I'll get some sleep
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>>10853 That is extremely lewd >>10843 Yes me too
>>10858 Goodnight then
>>10856 I really wanted the Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 vinyl box set that came with something signed by Jun Senoue, but they sold out immediately before I could get it. But no, I don't have anything signed. I'd love to, but all conventions and shit they occasionally go to are far away from me.
>>10857 Sounds kinda Colors/Rush-ish
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>>10857 >speed Heh
https://twitter.com/tripplejaz/status/1076408688993230850 The same guy that's helping Lange with Utopia
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>>10863 Classic amy being drawn with her messy 3 bangs instead of her fluffy 4 bangs is unironically triggering my autism
Sonic Adventure is about to turn 20! Favorite song & level from the game?
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>>10870 >Favorite song Oh man…there's so many good ones, I can't possibly choose, but if you held a gun to my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWOAez8g8mk >favorite level Probably Speed Highway.
Sonic Mania Adventures part 6 I loved it for the most part. It was beautifully written and directed, and its so cathartic seeing Amy become a confirmed part of the Mania universe and receive all the love and attention that comes with it. But one thing that's bothering me is the general idea of her helping Metal Sonic. I mean I get what it was going for. Amy takes pity on Metal Sonic. She sees him as sad, lonely and abandoned. She treats him like a person. As opposed to Eggman who treats Metal Sonic like a thing, an object, once retrieving him. If you view it from Amy's perspective (the episode standalone) its extremely effective. But if you view it from Sonic's perspective (All 6 episodes) it kinda makes Amy look like she undid all of the heroes' work. Of course this could be addressed by making Amy playable in a Sonic Mania sequel and having her confront Metal Sonic again. She'd experience the consequences of her decision and possibly decide whether she regrets it or not. But that's a ways off and there's no guarantee the Mania universe will continue past this point. Nothing is impossible but nothing is certain. For now, this is all we have At least inadvertently freeing the Flicky was an purely good thing.
>>10868 Now that I've been working with AHIT modding, I might very well get into Unreal and make something with this. Most of what I see here feels like something I could learn from to make Sonic content with.
>>10872 I think you're putting way too much thought into it. You're acting like Amy set up some terrible thing to happen by returning Metal to Eggman, when, in reality, I doubt it really did anything. If Eggman ever wanted to use Metal, again, he would have found it and repaired it. >it kinda makes Amy look like she undid all of the heroes' work But destroying Metal wasn't the point, nor was Metal the problem? The emeralds were the focus of ep1-5. If she, for some reason, somehow gave Eggman all the emeralds, I can see your point, but returning Metal to him is like giving him back his eggmobile.
>>10874 Not him, and I agree with you here, I just want to point out, why are so many people forgetting Sonic 4 exists? Besides the whole "it's bad" argument? Plot wise, Eggman goes back to Little Planet to get Metal back. So why is it heinous when Mania does it?
>>10875 Because 4 is kinda in this weird limbo where it's trying to be both a successor to classic Sonic while still being modern Sonic, and it's obvious the devs had more planned for the story that will now never see the light of day. It just ends up being this weird little side-path of the franchise that SEGA promptly abandoned and forgot about, before it ever really got going.
>>10876 meant to be an answer for >why are so many people forgetting Sonic 4 exists?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvsJHQLdHN0 >>10870 I guess embed related for music. Honorable mention to Twinkle Park. Not that big of a fan of Adventure
>>10868 Damn, that looks pretty good. I love how fluid and smooth it looks and how tight the controls seem to be. Sounds like you could make it look rather gorgeous too.
>>10870 Might be Speed Highway for both.
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>>10870 Song - it doesn't matter or Windy Valley Level - Speed Highway because of the shortcuts and secrets or Red Mountain for letting you use rocks and uneven terrain and ramps to spindash off of and fly over things. Both levels are good
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>>10857 What the hell is that noise.
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>>10885 Reminds me of that Sonic Christmas Special where Sonic became Santa Claus
>>10886 I like to think Sonic is his world's Santa. He's fast enough to do it.
>>10887 He isn't fat enough.
>>10888 modern classic sonic is pretty fat
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>>10888 He's kinda pudgy.
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>>10891 Hey, das a cute deer. Thanks for the Oekaki, anon!
>>10891 Neat
>>10893 >>10892 Thanks! The oekaki app is probably the only drawing app that I think is worse than XP era MS Paint, but it is fun for a quick thing.
>>10891 Ha, nice. >>10894 I wish it was better so that it would encourage people to draw more.
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christmas
>>10896 Nice job!
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>>10896 I want another old style Sonic Channel Shadow Christmas pic, God dammit.
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Is it snowing where you are, /fast/?
>>10896 Very nice!
>>10900 Sadly no, but I live in a state that doesn't get snow very often. It's pretty cold though, which is comfy
>>10900 No, it's actually pretty hot. >tfw southern hemisphere.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7al41LVYog SA1 is apparently Wikipedia's featured article today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Which reminds me, Sonic Adventure turns 20 years old today! Any thoughts or memories about the game?
>>10905 Oh wow, that's nice of them. Wish they would have put a picture of the game instead of Naka, but oh well.
>>10905 it was raining the first time I ever played Sonic Adventure and now whenever I smell rain, I think of the game. It's really nice and nostalgic
>>10905 That's pretty cool for it to be featured.
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>>10896 Cute. Isn't he gonna get pricked by the needles? >>10898 Me too. The one you posted is my favorite Sonic Channel wallpaper.
>>10909 >Isn't he gonna get pricked by the needles? Depends on the kind of tree it is.
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>>10909 Like it more than this one?
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>>10911 That one's super cute too, but yeah. The Christmas one is just so comfy. I miss when the Sonic Channel wallpapers weren't just generic poses…
>>10913 Yeah. Although the newer wallpapers being a bit more stylistic is nice, I still miss the older ones.
>>10913 >>10914 Same. The new style is a lot cooler than the previous one, but the ones that show the characters actually doing something is so much cooler.
>>10912 He also dislikes being called a rat.
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>>10918 Sorry, Silver. We’re /slow/
Post Holiday Sonics
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>>10921 >that Sticks picture
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>>10924 That person must have so much patience.
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>>10926 To make plushies?
>>10928 I don't think those are traditional plushies. They're too small and the fabric looks too hairy, I think they're done with some other method.
>>10929 I believe they're needle felted and made of wool.
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>plaything through this again Man, Lake Feperd needs to hurry up and get the Fark game done. Then maybe SEGA can pick him up for a project.
>>10931 I've never played Sparky The Electric Jester before. How fun is it?
>>10931 Every time I see his design I think it's really close to being great but slightly missed the mark because of how bare/featureless most of it is.
Do Sonic characters write letters to Santa?
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Do you think we'll get some cute Christmas Bump pics this year?
>>10936 Sure hope so.
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>>10934 I imagine in the Sonic world, Sonic himself would probably double as Santa. So probably >>10935 D'aww
>>10932 It's pretty good, but I might be a bit biased, as I contributed to its kickstarter. It's practically Sonic, but with powers like in a Kirby game. The level design isn't really like Sonic, though, featuring a lot of verticality with wall jumping. It also goes on for a while. It's better to not try marathoning it like you might a classic Sonic game. >>10933 Cream and Charmy definitely, Tails probably. Shadow too.
>>10935 Would Sonic be good at Sonic games?
>>10941 No, he's too impatient.
>>10940 Oh, and Silver. Silver would definitely be naive and gullible enough to believe in Santa. Only he'd believe that Santa must have been killed prior to his time, so he's got to change the past to stop it.
>>10940 >spoiler What would he ask for?
>>10942 What video games would Sonic like?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9JPgKviRRg Well, other than the slightly washed out colors, the better FPS is good. Hope the PC version happens one day.
>>10942 How would being impatient apply here? If he understands how his own gameplay works, he'd be nothing short of the genesis era speedrunner without question.
>>10947 I really hope we do get that PC port one day. Depending on when the next mainline games are coming, we might get another 2015 situation where all we really got was a Lost World port.
>>10947 It still bothers me how overly exaggerated Unleashed's first cinematic (after the intro) is. Like, it's way too much. But most importantly, Unleashed PC WHEN
>>10945 Shadow wishes for nice dreams about Maria. And various things to make his chao happy.
>>10945 Motorcycle oil, a box of hot pockets, flower fertilizer, a new android phone, chao food…
>>10950 Like, it's way too much. You mean the Werehog falling part? And that's odd of a complaint when thinking back on Mania's title screen Arin made a comment about. But if it's the Werehog part, that's not the first time Sonic did that at all, he does the same exact thing in Sonic Adventure as well.
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>>10952 >a box of hot pockets Kek
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>>10953 No, Sonic faceplanting is pretty much a series staple at this point. I mean mostly how Chip acts, I guess, like how when he wakes up he runs behind the rock and how when he doesn't remember his name he goes "Oh, what is my name? waaah" running in circles like a little shit. I realize it's meant to be cartoony but it doesn't seem well made and it annoys me.
What would you suggest if Amy HAD to be playable in a Genesis-style sonic game? Sonic Team is long past the point of trying something that ambitious and who knows if the Mania Team could or would ever attempt it. What would you suggest if Amy HAD to be playable in a Genesis-style Sonic game? No "Hard Mode" bullshit. (Deliberately gimped and/or locked off) I mean "Centerpiece Character, in plot relevance and gameplay novelties"
>>10957 Probably something with using her hammer. Like a hammer bounce allowing her to get more high off enemies for routes.
>>10957 She can use her hammer like an extended insta-shield while jumping, and she can do her hammer jump move from Adventure to jump higher than any other character, at the cost of it not rolling her into a ball while in the air.
>>10947 Oh right, Unleashed's HD version turned 10 not long ago in addition to Sonic Adventure turning 20 in Japan. Just finished a playthrough of all the daytime stages+bosses. The Full Metal Alchemist reference for Yasmine in the Professor's Lab got a chuckle out of me, among others.
Played some Sonic Adventure today. The BetterSADX mod is really great, I have no idea why I never tried it before.
>>10961 Yeah, I've heard some pretty great things about that mod even though I have yet to try it out for myself
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Bump
>>10962 They have a download that also gives you stuff from the Dreamcast version that was changed in the re-release.
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>>10965 Jun'ichi is precious.
>>10966 Always cool to see Sonic VAs do stuff like this.
>>10965 Pretty nice seeing all the JP twitter accounts acknowledge Adventure's 20th anniversary
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nZB6BMvW74 Merry Christmas Eve, everyone.
>>10970 Oh shit, nice. Merry Christmas Eve, anon!
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I just remembered Sonic's 30th anniversary is in pretty much 2 years. What do you think they'll do for it? How good or bad do you think it'll be?
>>10973 Mania 2 is likely the only game thing they are doing. Sonic Team is basically gone now, there's no likely case for any 3D game for a while now. At this point, I'd rather it be the case. No more bad 3D games. Wait until a competent team comes up to make competent 3D games, I can wait.
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Christmas is so close
>>10976 What would be the perfect Sonic-related Christmas gift for you, /sthg/?
>>10977 I think I have most of everything Sonic related I want. I guess maybe having something signed by some SEGA/Sonic devs would be cool.
>>10979 Adorable.
>>10979 Jesus Christ look at the size of those quills. >>10978 What about tickets to a convention or to a Crush40 concert?
>>10979 this is precious
>>10981 >What about tickets to a convention or to a Crush40 concert? That'd actually be pretty awesome, but I would likely have no way of getting to it like Sonic conventions.
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Merry Christmas /fast/!
>>10985 >>10984 Cute pics. Merry Christmas, anons!
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>>10985 Merry Christmas!
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>>10987 We dumpin Sonic Christmas pics now?
>>10989 Oh noes think of the image limit wait never mind
>>10990 Hey, that's pretty cool. Thanks for the gift anon & Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas everyone.
>>10993 Merry Christmas, anon. And Merry Christmas, /fast/!
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>>10993 >>10994 Merry Christmas for you too!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC8Dd3vaFFg Posting best Christmas special
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>>10997 D'aww And that's some nice detail with Metal having the Rudolph nose.
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>>10999 Good ol Hesse Bump
>>10978 >I think I have most of everything Sonic related I want What are your most prized Sonic possessions out of those?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAVlVGbYQTQ I guess SA1 is getting a fan remake with the Dash Engine.
>>11001 I'm not sure. I have an old rare Sonic The Fighters Espio plush that I really like and try to keep in nice enough condition. I also still have a Tails plush which was part of the first Sonic merch I ever got when I was like 9. Honestly it might be those Bump and Sage stickers Rik made for /sthg/ last year. I've been around /sthg/ from the beginning and seen both of them created, so I think it's something nice to hold on to when/if I move on from /sthg/ or it dies.
>>10999 she looks like shes going to start singing 'hit or miss'
I beat Sonic Adventure for the first this morning. The gameplay still holds up decently on minus Big and Amy. I can easily see why they brought shooting and treasure hunting to SA2, though they fucked up the radar hard in SA2. A nice little touch that they basically re-did all the lines for each shared cutscene depending on what character story you are playing. Only thing that doesn't stand up at all is the audio and cutscene production values and lip-syncing. Man they are rough, I almost wouldn't mind a remake just for that.
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>>11005 Yeah, the Big & Amy gameplay did kinda bring things down, even though I think the Amy stuff could be better if she was made faster
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>>11008 Retard Sally still a cute
>>11005 I had more fun playing as Amy than I did playing as Knuckles.
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Found this in the booru. Nice Sage
>>11010 I probably would've if she was faster or at least had better acceleration and they designed more around her hammer bounce. Now that is a fun move, but it didn't come up as much as I wanted it to.
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>>11015 Ah, I remember seeing that from the shaky livestream footage at a Sonic panel. Good times.
>>11014 Christmas lab rat.
>>11016 Ha, exactly. I'm just going through my files, I've seen that video here somewhere too.
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>>11019 Kinda odd that everyone is Classic except Amy who seems to be rocking her Modern look.
>>11019 I want to give alcoholic beverages to chao and flicky.
>>11021 Chao can't drink! That has to be illegal!
>>11020 Amy & seemingly Eggman
>>11024 Let me guess, it's Unleashed related? >Looks Called it. Please fer the love of god let this be a sign it's coming to PC. That's all I can care about Modern Sonic wise at this point.
>>11024 That's pretty nice of them. Please, give us a PC port Europe.
>>11024 Sega of Europe seems to be rather keen on giving stuff of to people, much more than the other Segas. It's weird.
>>11027 It's kinda the forgotten SEGA branch, so they probably want some attention.
>>11028 I know, but that makes it even more weird, why would they be allowed to just hand off stuff and make events if they're so irrelevant?
>>11029 I kinda doubt Japan cares too much about giveaways. They've done that "Make Love Not War" thing for awhile where they give away free SEGA PC games if you sign up for it. Just gets some good PR for it. They handle a lot of the porting stuff anyway, so I would bet they get some say as long as it ain't hurting profits. I doubt that many people are buying Unleashed randomly at this point and it gives the game some attention since they worked on making it backwards compatible.
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>>11031 Cute little Sonic
https://pastebin.com/ZpLKZx61 Got this from 4/sthg/ but apparently, there's a file from SatBK that contains a list of words that are blocked from being saved as filenames. English ones start at line 618
>>11034 Well I'm not all that surprised given that game was on the Wii. Nintendo is well known for that kind of thing during that era.
>>11034 Imagine having to spend your whole day typing out swear/banned words and be paid for it.
>>11037 Remember when Rosy and Metal was planned for Mania Plus? Good times. Seems like they knew all along. See ya in Mania 2 you two.
>>11037 She's gonna be even more cold hugging metal.
>>11039 His turbine probably keeps him pretty warm.
>>10801 >>11037 That's really cute
So after everything we've seen about the movie so far, how many here are planning on watching it?
>>11042 Me and my non-Sonic fan friend thought about seeing it, but the whole design teaser put me off pretty hard to even seeing it at all.
>>11043 Not gonna lie, I was curious about maybe seeing it but yeah, that teaser poster & especially that fucking legs poster was enough to turn me off
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>>11042 Not me, that's for sure.
>>11044 I don't think we're the target audience anyway.
>>11044 >>11043 They seemed almost ready to show the full design back when they started posting teasers and posters, but they actually didn't come through. Do you think they may have panicked and attempted to change it, even if times wouldn't allow it? >>11046 I wonder if the people working on the movie would be able to answer who the target audience is.
>>11047 I doubt they can change it at this point. I imagine they start showing a trailer revealing it proper next year.
>>11049 >Not being able to drink hot chocolate Poor, poor Metal
>>11050 All these little comics from the twitter and the Mania short showing how depressing it is to be Metal Sonic. Makes me sad.
>>11049 He really seems to like to metalpost lately. Wish he would make it more varied.
>>11052 I'm just happy Metal is getting posted.
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>>11055 Do bats like being brushed?
>>11056 Just about every creature with fur loves to be brushed.
>>11056 I think all sizeable animals would like being brushed.
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>>11059 >First gif If I could draw/animate, I'd probably make something similar with Bump
>>11060 I was going to request it but then I thought that it was probably futile.
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>>11062 Hedgehogs are cute.
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What is everyone's thoughts on the werehog in Sonic Unleashed? Decent? Garbage? Bad concept, good execution, or good concept, bad execution? I feel like the only real reason I don't get triggered by it as much as everyone else I've seen so far is because I'm a GoW fanboy. My biggest beef with the Werehog is just how boring it is. Concept out of all the "non Sonic gameplays" this series is known for is far more interesting than clunky tank gameplay Gamma/Eggman offered, but execution wise, I wish the combat was just more crunchier like in GoW. Otherwise, it would be pretty solid through and through. And I personally hate Sonic's bad stigma that every level needs to be so short it's baffling to claim in a 3D game to me. I rather have levels that allow me to go at my own pace instead of constantly going into the notion it has to be done within 3-5 mins. That being an argument against the werehog is shitposting to me. I want 3D Sonic to be games like A Hat in Time, Zelda, etc. Something less about Gotta Go Fast, but that I CAN Gotta Go Fast when I feel like it, not forced to. Just my two cents.
>>11065 Bad concept, mediocre execution. Sonic turning into a stretchy wolf thing is stupid. I actually like the design, but the idea is stupid. The gameplay is not good or bad, solely mediocre and the longer stage times make this a drag. It is fine to go through once, but I have zero interest in replaying levels as the only thing that can really carry those is the atmosphere and music which in itself loses points due to the battle theme. I think more emphasis on platforming with the werehog would've been fine as well as trimming the stage lengths a bit if the mindless brawling isn't improved.
>>11065 Really, my biggest issue with the Werehog was just how long some levels took. I don't mind something that gives the player a break but some of the levels taking around 10-15 minutes made things feel a bit boring imo. That being said, I didn't mind the combat & battle music aside, the atmosphere was really well done& I loved the Werehog design. At the end of the day it's something that could've used better polish, but it really came around the wrong time considering the state of Sonic when Unleashed released.
>>11056 Probably.
>>11068 Cute
>>11067 What would gameplay be like for a Classic Werehog?
>>11070 Ristar with a different melee attack probably
>>11071 Was Ristar a good game?
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>>11051 METARU ;-; >>11042 Like Detective Pikachu and the first mouse wars I am compelled to both find out how bad it's going to be and get up to speed on the hottest dank memes.
>>11072 Hell yeah, I love that game!
Who is your second favorite Sonic character, /fast/?
>>11075 Probably Amy or Metal
>>11075 Metal Sonic. Love me a robot.
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Alright /sthg/, time to start working off that Christmas weight!
>>11078 But that requires hard work.
>>11078 But I'm underweight. You go ahead.
>>11078 Exercising with Sonic would be insane. He’d also would probably get inpatient waiting for you to keep up with him in any way.
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>The thuggish twosome, Rough and Tumble, are back and they're looking for vengeance against Sonic and his friends. And they're not the only ones… some of Sonic's greatest foes have returned and, with the help of some new evil allies, have created a threat that's guaranteed to take over the world. Even Sonic can't outrun a Virus for too long. >Adam Bryce Thomas, Tracy Yardley Sweet, ABT's back
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>>11083 Fantastic. Glad to see Crush 40 return, even it's for a spinoff
>>11084 I wonder if some of Crush 40's NASCAR Arcade songs will be unlockable in the game. Open Your Heart may have been the first song Johhny and Jun recorded together, but the NASCAR Arcade game was the first project they ever did as Crush 40, so it'd be a cool easter egg.
>>11085 Oh yeah, that'd be pretty awesome.
>>11083 I love it. It's so cheesy but still so good. I really hope this means Crush 40 getting more involved with the series again. I missed them so much
>May 21 Ah, one day after my birthday. Neat. I just hope they show off gameplay here. Just using music to gloss over that gives me Forces callbacks.
>>11088 happy 145 days until your birthday
>>11089 Thanks anon. Here's hoping 26 be the point I become a real man and have a real job by then.
>>11083 I’m so happy they’re back.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhIUf-JYyY Now I'm starting to wonder. With how Sonic Mania got a massive hit by many people, I wonder. Other than "Make the 3D games more like the Crassics" would just that be interesting enough to reform Modern Sonic? Maybe Sonic also needs a visual change? Would Sonic work well with some of the conventions listed in this video? The Kill la Kill example proves it can be done in full 3D as well. Just think if you had the character look one to one to the Ukawa artstyle, but in a 3D space. After the "pixar" era of Sonic, I feel like this has aged more than less now due to SEGA not making the effort to up it since Unleashed, Generations being the only exception. What do you guys think?
>>11092 Honestly I'm mostly fine with what they have now, but I'm not a stickler for the character's visual art design unless it translates into something universally awful. The only thing about the examples in the video is sometimes I feel like the characters and the environment don't mesh together perfectly well.
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>started playing Lost World, recently >got to the snowball level WHY DID THEY THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?
>>11094 You don't like gimmicks, anon?
>>11093 Is it because the background isn't exactly like the characters in design?
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>>11095 I DON'T LIKE THEM WHEN THEY'RE SLOW OR CONTROL LIKE SHIT!
>>11097 You don't like hitting yeti and falling off the level a bunch?
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>>11098 THAT WASN'T EVEN AN ISSUE FOR ME. IT WAS JUST A BORING, DUMB LEVEL.
>>11099 How about that boss fight?
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>>11100 STILL JUST AS DULL AND EASY AS THE REST OF THEM.
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>>11101 A FUCKING STEALTH SECTION?! A FUCKING STEALTH SECTION IN SONIC?! FOLLOWED BY A FUCKING ICE LEVEL. WHY THE FUCK IS IT THAT WHEN THIS GAME DECIDES TO HAVE MOMENTUM, IT'S IN THE WORST WAYS POSSIBLE? I THOUGHT THE HATE WOULD BE EXAGGERATED. I THOUGHT "Oh, this doesn't look terrible. I'll probably have some fun with it." BOY, WAS I WRONG.
>>11102 A lot of decisions in Lost World are just baffling.
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WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED TO GRIND LITTLE ANIMALS
>>11104 To make the game longer… so filler.
>>11104 Are you having fun, anon?
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I can't believe it. I figured, though Lost World probably wasn't going to be a great Sonic game, it would probably be a decent game overall, at least. But the game is just outright bad. Controlling Sonic is a challenge in all the wrong ways. The level design ranges from just passable to awful. There are so many spots where it forces you to stop, slow down, and complete some kind of challenge before continuing. And, towards the end, it starts getting to trial and error design. If that wasn't enough, it does awful at teaching you how to do anything in the game. With the exception of two, which are for more bullshit reasons than anything, every single boss fight is ridiculously easy. And then there's the fucking story. The Lost Hex and Zeti just exist without any background at all, the Zeti are all one-dimensional, completely uninteresting villains, Tails is now just a super genius character, with nothing else going for him, every single plot point that tries to do something just falls flat, and Amy and Knuckles might as well not be there, for the fuck all they did. The entire game is a waste of a great soundtrack and cool final boss design. And I want to fuck Zeena.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW4LvekL_98 …Well, this is weird. Kinda cute, but weird. It kinda gives me DKC vibes.
>>11107 I suppose now you know why there aren't that many calls to go back to Lost World's style. Just curious, how did you do in Lava Mountain Zone 2?
>>11065 I didn't find the werehog to be so outright offensive as some other people did (mind you, I unfortunately didn't get to play the HD version yet, so maybe that's a reason), thought it was pretty boring. I think the idea of having a fast Sonic and a slower, more platforming oriented Sonic is a good one, but I think they should have taken a different approach to the level design of the werehog, which felt more like filler than something designed to be fun. The werehog platforming felt rather meaningless, it was too dense and boring most of the time, while the combat was rather frustrating to me because I really wanted to perform cool moves and combos, and while there were a lot of different combat moves, I remember feeling that the simpler I played the better I fared, so there wasn't any incentive to try more complex strategies or moves and get better. I think that describes the werehog pretty well: it didn't really give you any incentives to play it. I guess there's also that question about whether this type of gameplay is appropriate for a Sonic game even if it was stellar.
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>>11094 >>got to the snowball level
>>11094 I think I quit after that level.
>>11109 Aside from the one section with a string of four normal carts followed by two bomb carts, it was fairly easy. I feel that encases the game. Incredibly easy except for a few really bullshit parts.
>>11112 Not him, but my breaking point was actually the last level with the rising lava fight against Zavok.
>>11114 Me >>11094 here, I absolutely hated that, because it is not at all fucking clear what you're supposed to do to beat him. At first, I thought it was just a race to the top. When I hit a dead end and died, I had already had enough, and just looked it up. It's dumb. Not only are you never needed to use the bounce move for anything beforehand, but there's no indication you can use it to send down those blocks to hit him, especially since he, otherwise, breaks through them with ease.
>>11115 I had no idea what to do either for that. I actually just straight up gave up annoyed with the entire game, but ended up getting through it and finishing it last year. Final boss was a let down too, had nice music for it, though.
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>>11115 >>11116 >because it is not at all fucking clear what you're supposed to do to beat him I'm relieved to find out I wasn't the only one that struggled a bit with that.
>>11094 Did you get the game on that Humble Bundle, or did you just purchase it?
>>11119 Got it in the humble bundle pack. It was the only one I was lacking, so I gave the rest to my brother as a christmas present.
>>11120 I hope your brother is having a better time with Sonic than you're having with Lost World.
>>11121 Well, he got everything else, which includes the likes of Mania and SASASRT, but also the likes of Forces and Sonic 4 ep 1.
>>11122 I'm sure they're be something he likes… well I hope. I gave the first Sonic Humble Bundle (or maybe it was the really cheap Steam/Amazon bundle) to one of my friends a few years ago with every Sonic game on Steam at the time and he didn't really like any of them outside of the Adventures for nostalgia. He considers Sonic full-on dead after Boom.
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>>11123 >He considers Sonic full-on dead after Boom. Damn. Boom really turned him off Sonic that much?
>>11124 Like I said, he was only a fan of the Adventures he that he played back in the day, he disliked Generations quite a lot and I assume he's not big on Classic Sonic since as far as I know he never showed any interest in Mania. This was all like 4-5 years ago and I don't really talk with him as much anymore these days, but I would guess he probably has no interest in giving Sonic a shot again. I think Boom just cemented in his mind that Sonic will never get any better to him.
>>11125 Ahh, I see. Tbh, stories like that kinda makes me wonder just how many fans of this series has sorta moved on in the last few years,
>>11126 Weirdly, I have another friend who's only Sonic game he played was Heroes on Gamecube and he actually enjoyed that, but doesn't like the franchise at all and kinda wishes it'd just stop. I think his deal is that he greatly dislikes the fanbase and similar fanbases and lets it affect his judgement on games and series.
>>11125 If Adventure era was his only time as a fan, he really ended up on the wrong end of the stick. I don't hate Adventure 1/2, but most of that crap I'm glad is dead. 3D Sonic could be so much better than what those games started with, but we'll never see it until SEGA let some Sonic Team that's still around at this point to sit down and really take in; what made 3&K and Mania work so well, and translate that into 3D.
2019 is almost here. Any hopes for what may happen to the franchise next year?
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1078728401786163200 Does this mean it's finally coming to consoles/PC?
>>11130 I hope they announce a new game this year, but I kinda doubt they will.
>>11132 Googling says that's android based which is something those are already on, so probably not.
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>>11134 Ok then
>>11135 I really don't know why they won't bring them to PC or consoles. Seems like they're missing out hard on money. My only guess is that they really really want to sell the SEGA Mega Drive Classics compilation AKA an emulator.
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It took me 2 minutes, but you get my point.
>>11137 Smoking is bad, Sonic.
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>>11140 Thanks What were you testing?
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>>11140 I know right.
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>>11130 Just surviving sounds like a good enough outcome at the moment.
>>11144 Sonic is quite the survivor so far.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBR9tgTM0bI >>11137 >Sonic smoking Blue rat should take his own advice
>>11146 Sonic's practically invincible, though.
>>11147 Imagine trying to run as fast as Sonic with fucked up lungs
>>11148 But what if smoking doesn't affect his lungs. Sonic is a pretty special hog after all.
>>11149 Is Sonic special enough that smoking wouldn't harm him?
>>11151 Landing directly on his head from extreme heights does literally nothing to him not even a concussion, so anything is possible with the rat.
>>11152 There's nothing he uses in there, that's why.
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>>11153 R-rude
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>>11156 Sonic PEZ dispensers would be neat, but what in gods name is with those soulless eyes?
>>11157 Funko Pop
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>>11159 That's a big Shadow
>>11160 They need to make a Shadow Plush that matches Shadow's actual height.
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Hey /fast/, why is it that almost every cartridge I've seen for Sonic 3 are what I can describe as 'greasy'? Is it because people played it to much and the heated the label to a point where it looks like that?
>>11163 whoops I accidentally tapped send Did the McDonalds promotion give a copy of the game to more people than intended, and packaged the game with their food?
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A-are we back? I missed you fags.
Never seen 8chan down like that before. Granted I don't browse that much here.
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So what did you do during the downtime to pass the time?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rIyAdQFCE Glad to see the place is alive again. This is sad. When even porting Unleashed animations into Forces makes the game look better, that's saying something…
>>11169 Playing video games! >>11170 The smaller things can go a long way into making something better.
>>11161 I want a Shadow plush that's at least 50% taller than his normal height.
>>11172 I think they exist, but they never really make plushes of their actual heights. Still, why do you want one so big?
>>11163 You mean the label? Maybe it has something to do with the coating.
>>11173 They do exist but they're pretty bad looking. And I don't have any, anyway. >why do you want one so big? Why would someone not want one? One that big would look awesome and it'd be much more fun to hug than a tiny one.
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Don't die on me like that again, /fast/
>>11176 Do chao die?
>>11177 Yes, but they'll reincarnate if they're raised well.
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>>11178 Yeah. If you abuse them, they'll just die & not come back.
You wouldn't abuse a chao, would you /fast/?
>>11180 Absolutely not. I take good care of my Chao.
>>11180 I did to some at first, until they died on me. Then I panicked and changed my ways.
>>11180 I neglect them.
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>>11176 I'm sorry
>>11185 Remember Coldsteel?
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>>11186 I'm sure Bump does
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>>11180 I would kick Shadow's chao to make him mad.
Two days left on this by the way. Don't forget Mania and Forces have Denuvo https://www.humblebundle.com/games/sonic-bundle
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Really makes you think.
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>>11190 >800 million people are enthusiastic around the world! That's one way to put it
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>>11190 >800 million Are there even that many Sonic fans to begin with?
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>>11192 If there were really 800 million of us, we should start a militant pan-Sonic fan movement of freedom fighters to claim the necessity of a Sonic fan republic. If the Gay Kingdom of the Coral Sea can be a real thing, then we deserve a New Mobius Republic where we can play our hedgehog games in peace.
>>11192 >Sonic fans being over 10% of the population That would be fun. >>11193 >Sonic fan republic I'm sure nothing could go wrong with that.
>>11193 Sticks pls
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>>11193 And then a civil war breaks out
>>11163 Have you noticed it with any other game?
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>>11198 No, just Sonic 3's cartridge label.
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>>11197 What will be the tipping point? Classic vs Adventure vs Modern? Archie vs Fleetway? AoStH vs SatAM? Sally vs Amy? Will the people who think '06 is a genuinely good game form a splinter faction to rebel?
>>11202 Only the first one I think could start a civil war of those listed the others a minor squabbles that have mostly died by now. The great shipping war could still happen, though.
What are you up to, /fast/?
>>11204 About ready to watch football.
>>11201 That's cute >>11204 Planning on playing some Sonic Mania later
>>11204 Sleeping
New comic next week?
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>>11209 I think so, yeah. We're due to get two issues coming out this month
>>11212 That big annual issue, right?
>>11213 I believe that comes out in March. Next month is gonna be the next two issues of the mainline, since the one that was gonna come out this month had to be delayed due to the Holidays.
>>10801 What would Angry Chao be about and how would it play?
>>11215 We throw Chao at various Eggman structures.
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>>11188 That's horrible, anon. Shame on you.
>>11218 Shadow deserves nothing but anger and sorrow.
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>>11217 Interesting stuff. They cut out the soldier getting shot, the little hop after his Chaos Blast and the fourth alien falling out of the sky at the end. Probably some more stuff that I didn't notice.
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>>11188 That chao would kick your teeth in.
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>>11217 CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME WALK INTO MY MYSTERY
>>11222 Nah, it'll cry and run to Shadow.
>>11224 And then Shadow would kick your teeth in.
>>11225 Well… that is more likely, yes.
>>11225 We need more content with Shadow kicking people's/monster's teeth in.
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>>11228 Cute as hell.
Which Sonic game allows you to go the fastest?
>>11230 Probably the Boost games
https://web.archive.org/web/20181231054133/https://www.pressreader.com/uk/retro-gamer/20181228/281659666135596 New interview with Iizuka & Hoshino about Sonic Adventure. Nice little tidbit at the end with Iizuka showing an interest in a SA1 remake.
>>11232 Huh, I said on Christmas after finishing Adventure that I almost wouldn't mind a remake and here's something from the creators now. Still, I'm not really sure if I'm committed to wanting one, though. Sonic Team and SEGA have reached so many times into the past for core elements or, in the case of Classic Sonic, the character itself of their Sonic games the past 8 years that it makes me yearn for something completely original and new from them. I also question the current team's ability to pull it off and make it a worthy remake. If they do, though, I still would rather they put their abilities towards a new title.
>>11232 >Iizuka showing an interest in a SA1 remake. Why now? He said he wasn't before, why change the script? Does he have faith with Taxman to get it done? Because there's no way Kishimoto team is going to do it.
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Hoped to finish this before Christmas, but it didn't work out. Better late than never, eh? Maybe it can be posted next Christmas if we are still around. Hope everyone here had a good one!
>>11235 Awesome. Thanks for the Christmas Bump anon & (since New Years is tomorrow) Happy Holidays! >>11234 My guess is that Iizuka probably had a bit of a change of heart. Maybe Forces changed things for him or he sees potential in some of the folks working on Sonic games now to make it happen? It's unlikely we'll see a full-fledged SA1 remake though, unless SEGA wants it.
>>11234 I forget, but wasn’t it that they had no interest in making a third one? >>11235 Very cute! Thanks for making a Bump!
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>>11235 Damn, thanks anon. She's so cute! What did Bump bring you for Christmas /sthg/?
>>11239 She brought me laughter from the movie poster >>11238 What is Shadow even doing in this pic?
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>>11230 Unleashed hands down. >>11232 I can't for the life of me get to see it properly, no matter what archive site I use. It seems the page is fetched dynamically with Javascript or some shit so that tricks the archives and they only get the loading symbol archived. I can't even get the site to load going directly to it. Fuck this shit.
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>>11241 Oof. Sorry to hear that anon, I'll try & fix that. In the meantime, here's an excerpt from the interview
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>>11242 Okay seems like the site can't fucking archive the page, so here's just the direct link to the interview: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/retro-gamer/20181228/281659666135596
>>11238 Ha, nice! That's a collage of the all the Sonic Channel drawings of this year, isn't it? We've had a different art style each year of the past 3, do you think they'll change it again for next year and will it be shit like last year's? What if it's changed again to be closer to the movie?
>>11244 They released an Espio one pretty recently with a new artstyle. Looks pretty nice imo, but still not like the older style.
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>>11242 It wasn't your fault, I couldn't get it to work either. I managed to get it to work now, here's a image of the whole page. >>11232 Pic related is an image of that page if it doesn't load for you.
>>11246 >"[Sonic's] character felt very safe, boring, and conservative", explains Sonic Adventure Art Director Kazuyuki Hoshino I wonder how he feels now and why they haven't done anything to change it. It feels hypocritical.
>>11246 I hate how they almost never feature Uekawa in interviews. What's up with that? Specially for an interview like this, where they even touch upon the characters' redesigns which is what he worked on and probably the thing people remember him the most for.
>>11248 My only guess is that Uekawa declines doing these type of interviews but either way it's a shame, given how much he's done for the series in terms of designs.
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>>11250 >>11251 Is that yours, anon?
>>11252 My friend and I share 'em, just like the genesis games.
>>11253 Cool, are you going to keep expanding your collection? Also, no Mania?
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>>11254 >you going to keep expanding your collection? Of course >no mania Yes we have mania
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>>11258 Nice pic
What if Sonic teamed up with Eggman to take over the world?
>>11260 All his animal friends would be holocausted
>>11260 Sonic would eventually betray Eggman.
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>>11263 Did he lose it /sthg/?
>>11265 Sonic was never with it to begin with.
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>>11266 Sonic used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was.
>>11268 more like sonic team or sega thinks pontaff writing is what's hip and fresh
>>11270 I love the OVA so much.
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What are your New Year resolutions, /fast/?
>>11272 Exercise mostly. I need to be in better shape.
>>11272 learn to draw beat an addiction, I'm thinking wheat based foods make good choices at least 75% of the time make a lot of money without selling my soul become skilled at a craft and then taint my work by making it all Sonic-related
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>>11275 Cute
>>11277 Would you let a giant Sonic hug you, /fast/?
>>11278 I'm like Amy, I'd let any Sonic hug me.
Happy new year /fast/! Hope 2019 is a good one for you!
>>11278 Yes, but I'm not sure about Joypolis Sonic. He's kind of creepy.
Happy new year /fast/!
Next thread New Year's Edition?
>>11283 Think we can get there before the day is through?
>>11284 We would have to be pretty fast. THIS IS MY ESCAPE I'M RUNNING THROUGH THIS WORLD AND I'M NOT LOOKING BACK
>>11284 It's not even 2019 where I'm at, so unless you meant before Jan 1st is over, I doubt it. This isn't 4/sthg/, and thank god for that.
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>>11286 Yeah, I think anon meant before January 2nd.
>>11290 Yeah, I meant before the 2nd.
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Happy New Year's! Figured you guys would enjoy some OCs. Love you all!
>>11292 Absolutely wonderful, anon! Happy New Year!
>>11290 >>11291 Then we should make it hopefully. Happy New Years, I'm off to bed.
>>11292 First /sthg/ drawing of 2019!
>>11292 Wonderful. Happy New Years, anon! And here's to a great 2019, /fast/
Happy New Year everyone. Here's hoping for a year of good games.
>>11297 Kinda digging this style for the wallpaper. Reminds me of something I'd see from Battle or Riders
>>11298 My thoughts exactly, they're starting 2019 off with good shit.
>>11298 I don't hate it, but I don't like it as much as the previous style. I would prefer them to have normal coloring and shading if this is something they intend to keep for the whole year.
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Lynx. Do you think we'll get another one at some point?
>>11302 I definitely think so. Starline's design is something of an homage to Finitevus so I can see us getting a new Lynx down the line.
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https://twitter.com/sonic20th/status/1078556997551673345 I love this image. I think it may be the first time we actually get it in digital form. Also this tweet is signed (((Sonic Committee))). Huh, maybe it is true they disbanded Sonic Team? Creepy.
>>11303 But will she be as cute? What if it's a he?
>>11304 So why color it now? How old is this originally?
>>11304 >Sonic Committee Huh. Between this & Sonic Pillar Team, I wonder what's going on in SEGA
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>>11295 >>11293 >>11296 Thanks for the warm reception! Here's a companion piece I made.
>>11311 you got a name drawfriend?
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>>11312 I usually go by Professor Badvibes. Thanks for asking! Here's some Shardicole I did for a friend.
>>11311 >>11313 Very cute stuff. Nice to see another artist anon here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JfoceqmNJU Well, add another redo the Sonic physics engine to the list
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>>11316 It's time!
>>11315 >Using the 06 running animation Huh, that's not something I see often in fanwork. >>11316 Is it time?
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New thread >>11320
>he hasn't watched the sonic movie yet I haven't


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