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non-ABDL-diaper thread Baby 11/28/2022 (Mon) 00:03:43 No. 19903
diapers on people who need them or wear them out of convenience.
>>19903 In case of need it could be people who have a bladder related condition or people who have a strong degree of autism.
>>19903 And in the case of convenience, I think I read some time ago (I don't remember the source and I'm not sure how true or false the article is) that it mentioned that Japanese office workers used nappies to save trips to the bathroom during their workdays.
>>19910 The article has been around awhile and it's not just office workers. It was last mentioned here >>10025 that I'm aware of. Also Japan apparently uses more adult diapers than baby diapers which is partly due to birth rates dropping and the population getting older. I assume apart from what's stated in the articles of women doing this not wanting to interrupt work or use public restrooms. There's probably also contributing is how Japanese culture tends to focus on youth when it comes femininity which is part of why the "kawaii" aesthetic is so popular and we get stuff like Japanese women pitching their voices higher than other countries. https://pictolic.com/en/article/why-young-and-healthy-japanese-women-wear-diapers https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/adult-diapers-surprising-trend-among-japanese-women-172721799.html https://www.marketplace.org/2016/08/29/japans-changing-culture/ As that poster noted Japan is also the only non-English speaking country that has a regional store and website for ABU. Plus of non-Western countries they seem to produce the most ABDL porn so it seems ABDL interest is probably comparable to what it is in the West.
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there was a photo of a woman who wore a diaper under her drysuit. anyone have it in high-res?
>>19903 What's the story here? Where is this pic from? That looks like a BIG bag of diapers. Are those all for EVA's, launches, and landings, or do other operations require padding? Also appreciate that the folks at NASA seem to prefer pretty princess wipes over 'adult' size wipes.
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This image made it's round on ABDL forums like 10 years ago I think. It was from a blog where this woman was on some sort of scientific expedition in Africa (I think, I don't exactly remember the details) but the long rides across the desert meant it was really difficult for her to find a bathroom and so she started wearing diapers to handle it.
>>19990 It came from a facebook-post about a succesful drysuit-training for scubadivers.
>>19912 This is something one of my friends found out not long after she started living in Japan. Apparently it's becoming increasingly common with people in arcades and those who become ill.
>>20049 >who become ill Ill in what way? Like, crippling chronic disease, or ill like a bad cold or flu? I will say, I am NOT a fan of messing at all, at all, and yet one time I was really sick so I decided to wear some pull-ups, woke up at 2am and threw up in the toilet while I had diarrhea, and lemme say, my diaper catching that so I didn't have to clean up an enormous disgusting mess while I feel horrible, weak, and shaky at 2am - I have never loved diapers so much in my life as in that moment. So, I can see how a bad flu might be enough to make even a non-DL wear.
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>>19903 >>19990 I'm gonna guess that's the ISS and they're stocking up. It bears some resemblence to the shuttle's middeck, but doesn't look quite like it as far as I can tell, and the shuttle would probably never need that many diapers in one mission. Though, I did hear once the space shuttle toilet failed and they had to resort to using socks (socks in bags?) as toilets. I wonder if after that they started taking a lot more diapers as a better emergency back-up than socks... They wouldn't be any better than poop bags for #2, but they would be way, way better than socks for urine. Anyways, this thread is a good occasion for me to splerge on diapers in space. Or at least for NASA. I don't think anyone knows the story of how the USSR handled it. But anyways, for NASA diapers... So it started with the May 5th launch of the first American in space in 1961. Freedom 7 of the Mercury program. See, it was only a 15-minute flight, and the plan was for Shepherd to get in the tiny capsule and launch and be recovered well within the time someone can hold their urine. However, the ground crew was extremely careful/nervous about the first launch of an American into space, and kept delaying it for clouds, minor hiccups, etc, for 4 hours. Now, see attached image 1 - that's a Shuttle-era spacesuit, but the launch sitting position is the same. It's great for enduring g-forces, but blood from the legs pools down to the torso, basically forcing the kidneys into overdrive. Plus launch-day nerves, and another hour or three since he'd last been able to use the bathroom, it was simply beyond what man can endure. (Stepping forward to the early shuttle era for a moment, apparently a lot of astronauts tried to beat it by dehydrating themselves - even getting in a hot tub the night before to aid the dehydration and not drinking anything until after launch - but nothing worked, they still ended up peeing. Sitting on your back for 2+ hours is just apparently that compelling to your kidneys. And obviously, NASA was not happy with astronauts dehydrating themselves, since hydration effects your thinking and health, and that practice is banned. Now back to Mercury/1961 -) By the next launch in June of 1961, provisions had been made. Enter: the UCD. The Urine Collection Device. It was basically a condom-like sheath with a one-way valve at the end that exits into a tube that goes into a bag. Attached image 2. Once in orbit, though, you can take off all that stuff and use a funnel-hose assembly to urinate. From Gemini (Mercury flights were too short to need provisions for #2) to Apollo, you had to poop in a plastic bag. It was not great. As for the UCD worn with the spacesuits, I don't know much about it in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo eras, other than it was worn under spacesuits for that time, but one astronaut from the early Shuttle era said that it was worn along with a very thick pair of underwear that acted as a diaper to catch leaks since it wasn't perfect. You're lying on your back, peeing sideways into this thing that's only hopefully centered. Shifting in your seat could cause the valve to be pushed open, causing urine to come back out. And it may slip off entirely, which was not unknown. Also apparently astronauts had a habit of picking one too large for them just to boast about needing a large size. So NASA changed the naming convention from "S/M/L" to "Large/XL/humongous" - I can't verify this paragraph but I've heard it before. Spacesuits were worn for launch, EVAs, and landing, and any time a spacesuit is worn, so is the UCD. Now we enter the shuttle era. For a while, they continued using UCDs, but now, for fecal waste - see attached image #4 - they had a toilet in space, finally. Using suction, the hole had to be small so there could be a seal, and it required some aiming. But way better than bags in microgravity. But back to urine, into the 80s, with women going to space, obviously they couldn't use UCDs since those attached with a condom-like sheath. All attempts to engineer a sort of equivalent funnel were fruitless. Ultimately they just had to use essentially a disposable diaper, with a gelled suspension layer. This first one was called a DACT - Disposable Absorption Containment Trunk - attached image 3. This was first flown in 1983. Remember all those issues I mentioned with UCDs? The leaks and popping off and all that? Well, women never had those issues with the DACT. And eventually, the more advanced and unisex MAG was made - Maximum Absorbency Garment. See attached image 5. By 1988 the MAG replaced the DACT. The MAG is essentially a disposable diaper. Legend has it that it's a pull-up with 2 L of capacity. And by the 90s, the MAG had fully replaced the UCDs of old. MAGs were first something NASA made. But to quote the wikipedia article on MAGs: >In the 1990s, NASA ordered 3,200 of the diapers of the brand name Absorbencies, manufactured by a company that has folded. In 2007, about a third of the supply remained. During shuttle missions, everyone was given 3 MAGs - one for launch, one for re-entry, and another for if the first re-entry attempt was aborted - and additional MAGs for any EVAs planned. Now, I've covered why you need diapers on launch. Why you need diapers on EVAs should be self-evident, since they can last many hours. Also, astronauts tend to try to time their consumption of liquids such that they don't need to use the MAG on EVAs, but it's good for peace of mind, and I imagine sometimes that doesn't work. Now, re-entry. Your body is made to keep fluids up - in your upper body, against gravity, to keep it from pooling in the lower parts of your body. When astronauts arrive in microgravity, then, they're a bit bloated in the upper body because the body's still pushing fluids up, but there's no longer gravity pulling them down. After a few days, the body adjusts and stops doing that as much. This is called "fluid shift". A result of this, is that even if you're hydrated before you land, once the shuttle lands, since your body is no longer pushing fluids up to your upper body, the fluids drain out of your upper body and you can become so dehydrated that you faint. So it's somewhat dangerous. To counteract this, NASA started making astronauts drink two liters - about a half gallon - of a salty water (with a bit of a lemon-lime taste) before re-entry.
[Expand Post]I imagine that that, with the g-forces of re-entry, along with muscle atrophy from days, weeks, or months in zero-g, make the diapers very much needed for re-entry. Now, as to the MAG itself - I need one more pic so I'll go over that in another post...
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>>20089 Now, the pic in the previous post shows two different pics for the MAG. Both come from NASA themselves. Also, see first attached pic here. I'm thinking perhaps the first MAGs that NASA made were pull-up style, but, as per the history quote: >>In the 1990s, NASA ordered 3,200 of the diapers of the brand name Absorbencies, manufactured by a company that has folded. In 2007, about a third of the supply remained. Those may be what the tape-on ones are. Or, maybe the tape-on ones are the newest ones, I'm not sure. But I vaguely recall seeing somewhere that the more modern MAGs, at least the ones for EVA, are extremely high-capacity and even have extra absorbent panels sewn into the wings, as shown in that pic. Apparently that's more useful in microgravity. But it's worth noting there's been at least two very different MAG designs. Probably more, given they've almost certainly run out of Absorbencies by now. And as OP pic showed, they have some variety nowadays, it seems. ...I wonder if any astronauts have ever opted for ABDL-printed diapers just "as a joke haha"? Or legitimately as a joke to mess with the other astronauts? Also a bit of bonus trivia - the other attached image here is an LCVG. Liquid Cooling and Ventilation Garment - some have separate pants, some are one-piece, but they're underclothes with a network of little tubes filled with chilled water. They plug in to the spacesuit through a single big plug and the spacesuit chills the water to keep the wearer from overheating. The first spacewalk had serious issues with the astronaut over-exerting himself and fogging up the helmet, blinding him, because he got so hot. Space doesn't really have a temperature because it's a vacuum. You have a very hot sun and then you radiate heat into space. So spacesuits are heavily insulated and have a cooling system that uses a heat radiator, and you just raise or lower how much cooling the radiator does to control the temperature. Spaceships do the same on a larger scale. But you may see astronauts in that and wonder what it is or if it's related to diaper stuff. It's not. The diaper is worn under it (of course) and they're two entirely separate things.
>>20051 More to aid with bedrest. Japanese apartments are made for the heat, so get cold in winter, the thinking is that it's better to stay in bed then get up and get cold while going for a pee, so the ill person wears a diaper to avoid that. I'm guessing the person would be required to get up for a shit though.


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