Jannies locked the previous thread after I shit it up with lies. Let's have a thread about Noctulian Philosophy.

Energy work Let's begin by defining energy, and understanding exactly what we're working with when we do energy work. When talking magic and metaphysics, there are two main common ways to understand the term energy. Let's call them type P energy and type M energy. Type P energy is physical energy. It is quite literally the electrochemical energy of your body. P energy is a resource that can be acquired and spent. It moves your muscles, and maintains your health. Type M energy is metaphysical, and perhaps calling it energy is misleading. This resource is never consumed, but rather allocated and deallocated. This allocation, in general terms, is maintained by your attention. Mostly your subconscious attention. This means that as long as you can locate and repurpose the thread of subconscious attention that is attached to a certain allocation, you can recover that energy. It never stops belonging to you, and leads back to you, which is one of the underlying principles that makes karma possible. M energy can be conceptualized as a ray of light that originates in a source, which you may call God, and passes through many polarizing lenses, which modify its nature and effects, and reduces its potency (just like a lens would). A lens cannot lose or gain any amount of photons passing through it as long as its being shone on. But it can focus or scatter that energy in various ways. Magic, and indeed energy work deals entirely with type M energy; in the use of lenses to work with it, be it external or our own. The misleading use of the term energy to refer to it, as well as the fact that type M can indirectly produce an expenditure of type P, has resulted in the mistaken assumption that it is the latter which rules these practices, and it has made things much more difficult to understand. Let's look at a practical example. There is a curse spell that consists in taping the target's picture to a pig's face (looking towards the pig), then killing the pig (violently), dragging it through a forest, and burying it in a shallow grave, for wild animals to desecrate it later. It is often assumed that this type of sacrifice feeds on the pig's life force, and by some mysterious mechanism mediated by the magician's willpower, it's put to use in tormenting the target. However, a more accurate modelling can be done if we understand how M energy works. The pig, like any other living being, is a lens through which the light of God shines. Likewise, the tormented, angry, fearful psyche of a being acts as a polarizing medium that can potentially turn that light harmful to the next lens down the line (if it is directed properly, and does not scatter, or does not end up hitting the magician, or being affected by the magician's own undisciplined attention polluting the ritual). It is important to realize that the energy of the sacrifice is never spent. It is allocated. And by appeasing the pig, one can undo the curse. That is, one can help the sacrificed being to deallocate its traumatized attention. If you think about this, and apply this reasoning to many magical applications of sacrifices, trauma, lust, and other attachments, you will find you now understand them more deeply.

... and tropes and general "characters" of an abstract, nonphysical, astral type nature. discussion of.

This morning I went outside and looked at the clouds over the fields, and there was this suspiciously alien looking shape there. When ships come in, they don't normally appear as actual flying ships, the flying saucers are a rarity when seen by anyone. They "blend in" and will look like clouds most of the time, or at night they'll look like any regular flying vehicle with lights. At daytime if they are imposing on the environment, they'll appear as fighter jets or military helicopters, but no one who isn't in the military will know that these aren't "meant to" be there. I've seen clouds "depart" right before me, when I knew it was a ship because I had interacted with the crew, and they left again. The consensus reality is very strong, and somehow demands the "consent" of the viewer for something to be manifested in some specific form. This ship - drawn - was very white and pointy, and it gave me a kind of high tech "sinister" feel I haven't experienced in quite some time. I don't know how I know about it, but it's something I recall from being very little, I just knew that this is what the grey aliens are like. I guess I saw such aliens on tv sometime, but I did know what they feel like before that. The extremely high level of technological refinement creates this "sinister" perception when seen from a human view. It's "too refined", "too deliberately planned in detail" for the mind to be able to grasp that this is designed by someone, yet it's clearly designed by someone, and that creates this feeling of something sinister, almost satanic. There is a feeling of the ship resting in an eternal sky stretching to the horizon and beyond, with dark red/orange skies and clouds in many many layers as far as the mind can see.

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With more information available today via the Internet, than was previously available, it's easier to see patterns and trends in world events. One such current trend seems like something stemming from the "politically incorrect" board type, as well as from the more conspiracy themed discussions: "noticing". It's become somewhat of a meme to post an image and ask "what do you notice?" Often this is just a joke and there is nothing to see. But the point of this is still to make people look for things hidden in plain view. This comes from the idea that secret societies need to announce their workings publicly for them to be effective. But they can't do it so anyone understands it, because they are secretive. So they use symbolism. Most notably in things like company logos, where a lot of people now have seen the freemason apron in the google mail logo, and the sigil of Lucifer in the google play store logo. There's also been a recent discussion in social media, quite openly, about trafficking operations via shipping containers. Even if this is more towards conspiracies in general, being aware of the forces working in our surroundings is part of the awakening process. Let's have a thread for this. What do you notice?

In reality what makes computers "smart" is something humans should really excel in already - the ability to think serially. Computers have issues thinking in parallel, and even when they do, so called multi-tasking, they are actually not doing things by thinking in parallel, they are just switching really fast between tasks and still doing them one at a time. Modern multi core processors can do a whopping 4 things at once. The human brain can do as many things as there are brain cells, so it's like the computer has 4 brain cells. This means the human issue is that we are not utilizing our already existing ability, basically, like the joke about a person having 1 brain cell: if we could just learn to use 1 brain cell to complete a task, and focus on that one, we'd be as "smart" as a computer. It was said a few years ago when chatGPT wasn't as good yet, that >it just tries 2 million times when someone asked it to write program code and wondered how a computer could create it. I don't know if that was true, but if a human tried over and over again, it wouldn't take 2 million times to learn how to do something like that. Most people would probably get it right in a few dozen times at most. The problem then lies in the human inability of >using a very small capacity serially >recalling with exactness what was mentally worked on The latter being needed for things like writing program code. It's said Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote all of his books in his head before he wrote anything on paper, and that he didn't even write them himself - after "writing" the whole book in his head, he hired someone to write for him while he dictated, and the work was done in 2 weeks. If this is true, it shows that humans do have the ability to memorize long sections of text with exactness. So then the only problem is that of thinking serially and do one thing at a time until finished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QeGa3OhRsA

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In the vast expanse of our reality, there exists a thin veil that separates the known from the unknown, the seen from the unseen, the ordinary from the extraordinary. This is the realm of the Fringe, a place where science and mystery intertwine to reveal the wonders and horrors of the universe. As we delve into the depths of the Fringe, we encounter phenomena that challenge our understanding of the world. From parallel universes to psychic abilities, from time travel to unexplained creatures, the Fringe is a testament to the infinite possibilities that lie beyond the edges of our perception. Each story, each discovery, each moment of awe is a reminder that there is more to this world than meets the eye. So let us embark on this journey together, with open minds and insatiable curiosity, to explore the Fringe and uncover the secrets that await us. Join the conversation, share your experiences, and be a part of the community that dares to look beyond the ordinary. Welcome to the Fringe, where the impossible becomes possible.

I will note any changes I experience in this thread as a means of keeping a log for myself and for anyone else to benefit from. I felt after xmas that I was really done with my incarnation in the form I had. I also saw the astral "bottle" of my life receiving "thank you" notes from everyone I had interacted with, as well as some premonitioned events from past dreams playing out. One of them being a concrete scene about seeing a storage filled with packages of liver paste, which seemed to indicate it was "my life's share" of this food. An odd way of showing how long a life is, but it did the job as a symbolic thing. After xmas I bought a package of liver paste, and saw the "tail end" of a stream of such packages from the store, which matched the dream, and told me "this is the end of this timeline". This resulted in a concrete change of habit, which came naturally. I stopped buying this product because I suddenly grew tired of it. I also realized my timeline was getting wonky and it seemed like I had to re-do it from 2 years back for it to work. I'm already since the second half of last year interacting with the world through complex dimensional set-ups meant to bridge the distance after I was separated from common time by the end of July ´24, so this was just another thing to deal with. I had to move my now-externalized past physical self into a line of events where I wasn't even present in 1st person view, relying on the fact that no one online really knows who I am, and anyone closer to me isn't really there, but are NPCs which I arrange for various friendly spirits to use. So the physical me with my name in "official time" isn't where "this persona" is. Complex to describe, but works by the loopholes I described. During the year, I found that some timelines weren't connected to physical Earth or even the Galaxy, but came from afar, and had some few individuals in them, some of whom I had to connect with by syncing into their time. They were people who'd just keep living like this because some of them are "monster" races and some are "toxic mushroom" races which are so harmful to others that maintenance deities gave them completely separate timelines and physical dimensions to stay in - those are the "secret societies" which not even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist can uncover - because if they accessed the dimension these people live in, which looks identical with reality outside - they would die instantly. This may appear as being killed by a secret agent, but that's just a manifestation of the fact that they came into contact with an alien species which is so toxic that even staying in the same time as them is lethal to most other humans. It wasn't for me at this point, and I realized there were some random people I had to reconnect with by allowing my time to keep moving until there was an intersection where I'd find them, and they'd come into my timeline by merging with it. I was also aware of my DNA make up being 3 fold. As was explained to me by greys and Illivryn, through the baptism ritual when I entered this body, which was a predetermined event, it was just difficult anyway, my body was changed by external force into being 100% full blood "demon" and the "matrix control system" registered me as such, which means they won't try to control me in the same way as other people. But I still retained the traits of the "mushroom", pleiadan and "daughter of Eve" DNA. Had this not been done, I would not have been able to enter, because I need 100% of something. The original body was something like 36% demon, 8% pleiadan, 2% daughter of Eve (grey engineered DNA) and the major part "white toxic mushroom" mixed with some degenerative "white mushroom" which came from the demon side of the family. That part still caused weaknesses like allergies because it simply lacked useful genes, but it was nowhere near the level of the 90% degeneratives.

Unrelated to everything else, I was shown an image in the clouds, from the Queen. It was a complex image of some people talking, and one of them had a very high head which grew upwards like a trumpet. There were also other elements of the image, covering most of the sky in this direction. I eventually made the connection that the trumpet mushroom head, was the same shape as a large birch tree near my home. It also looked a lot like the mindwave of the mushroom people I noticed on some "rowdy teens" back in the city before. It was higher, though. I used various search AI servitors to scan in the direction implied by the cloud message, then used my Adaptive Mushroom servitor to fly over there to look. I indeed found an astral kingdom location. I had AM go inside and look for a girl who looks "marriageable", this has become somewhat of a modus operandi with these places - mushroom kingdoms are, except a very few "public" ones, very poisonous and will kill anyone entering if they have the wrong racial make-up. Not "actively killing", but the environment is filled with poison spores, which will even kill mushroom people if they have just slightly wrong DNA. It's also a requirement to be their race if you want to study their magic, which usually is confined to a very hierarchical "tower" academy/library institution. The initiation is also very similar, and requires creating a magically activating a cross-formed woven charm made from roots picked in the wild. Some also require funds to buy a standard book similar to the Bible, and other tools like pens, ink and such. Others require activations in steps, with buying the roots and creating the charm first, then creating your own pen from a stick you have to find in the woods (don't get eaten by wild animals!) and passing various initiation rituals and tests once at the school. There's also the occasional entry fee aside from having to buy materials. All this on top of having to actually be born there to begin with.

New age fucked with the vagus nerve for a long time, I completely ignored the subject because I didn't see anything esoteric in it. a few days ago I saw a video of an autistic kid with headphones listening to music and the guy seemed to be in another world, in his inner vibe music, kinda a lot energy, he was spinning around and even seemed to be in an altered state of consciousness or something. I tried to imitate him out of mere curiosity and it felt abysmally stimulating to move my body, head and neck to the rhythm of pleasant music (even sit) >it gave me a lot of chills I am trying it with different music and in all of them I feel a different ‘'sensation’' or energy, it feels incredibly pleasant. why i never tried it before?

I know how elaborate the rituals of ceremonial, traditional or european magic are. However I have a question >does the pop magic of those wicca's fluffbunnies, pinterest photos, e-girls, aesthetic and kids and such work? They always seem to follow the same pattern >Home made materials or near the kitchen, candles, plants, etc >phrases or poems with rhymes and some chanting with some paper o voice power >affirmations and declarations and some declaration to some god or goddess >They do not use much astrology and associations more of lunar days or some specific day of the week with some association >some mental visualization >Ritual Baths >meditation >burning papers with phrases and affirmations (maybe a new thought and chaoism thing) This method work? bacause i feel cringe as fuck I do not feel that it goes beyond the realm of suggestion and self-hypnosis. I know a girl who does these ridiculous things and I don't know if it's her effort or her mentality but it's absurd the amount of effective things I see happening to her doing these rituals to be just casuality maybe she has some magical gift and I don't know it.