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The Time for Spiritual Warfare is Over Anonymous 07/16/2025 (Wed) 20:06:59 No. 13067 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-WLLQdvVyM So many of these souls incarnated in time for the upbringing of the X gen and the millennial gen, to try and convey a few essential truths before it was too late. But it is clear to me by now that their efforts were insufficient. Even now, there's a push from the other side to keep calling attention to these truths, plastered ad nauseam in many forms of artistic expression for those with eyes to see. I doubt in this apocalypse, that many will be saved. But they insist in pushing through, and trying to get through. The seeds have been planted, and a harvest, meager as it might be, is still possible. Those who received those truths are now parents, incels, mortgage holders. They are suffering a world they don't understand; a world which should not be possible. In my view, these people are already crushed under the weight of the system, and the new generations, mostly comprised of organic portals, is completely unable to support any kind of relief of this guard. Most of them will aid in the demolition and phagocytosis of this world. And yet the spirits tell me it is enough. That the few that will make it off this rock mostly intact are enough.
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I wonder what Dolores Cannon would say now.
This is now a thread a out sleeper agents. Always was.

Noctulian Philosophy. Anonymous 04/23/2025 (Wed) 08:04:26 No. 9049 [Reply] [Last]
Jannies locked the previous thread after I shit it up with lies. Let's have a thread about Noctulian Philosophy.
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>>9183 >analogy to the bible what would be an equivalent to this in noctulian philosophy? i've tried googling the op image but i'm gettin zero hits is there even a definitive introductory/central text
>>14542 You're supposed to bath in a lake after cutting your wrist.

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Anonymous 01/28/2025 (Tue) 16:37:39 No. 6252 [Reply]
Energy work Let's begin by defining energy, and understanding exactly what we're working with when we do energy work. When talking magic and metaphysics, there are two main common ways to understand the term energy. Let's call them type P energy and type M energy. Type P energy is physical energy. It is quite literally the electrochemical energy of your body. P energy is a resource that can be acquired and spent. It moves your muscles, and maintains your health. Type M energy is metaphysical, and perhaps calling it energy is misleading. This resource is never consumed, but rather allocated and deallocated. This allocation, in general terms, is maintained by your attention. Mostly your subconscious attention. This means that as long as you can locate and repurpose the thread of subconscious attention that is attached to a certain allocation, you can recover that energy. It never stops belonging to you, and leads back to you, which is one of the underlying principles that makes karma possible. M energy can be conceptualized as a ray of light that originates in a source, which you may call God, and passes through many polarizing lenses, which modify its nature and effects, and reduces its potency (just like a lens would). A lens cannot lose or gain any amount of photons passing through it as long as its being shone on. But it can focus or scatter that energy in various ways. Magic, and indeed energy work deals entirely with type M energy; in the use of lenses to work with it, be it external or our own. The misleading use of the term energy to refer to it, as well as the fact that type M can indirectly produce an expenditure of type P, has resulted in the mistaken assumption that it is the latter which rules these practices, and it has made things much more difficult to understand. Let's look at a practical example. There is a curse spell that consists in taping the target's picture to a pig's face (looking towards the pig), then killing the pig (violently), dragging it through a forest, and burying it in a shallow grave, for wild animals to desecrate it later. It is often assumed that this type of sacrifice feeds on the pig's life force, and by some mysterious mechanism mediated by the magician's willpower, it's put to use in tormenting the target. However, a more accurate modelling can be done if we understand how M energy works. The pig, like any other living being, is a lens through which the light of God shines. Likewise, the tormented, angry, fearful psyche of a being acts as a polarizing medium that can potentially turn that light harmful to the next lens down the line (if it is directed properly, and does not scatter, or does not end up hitting the magician, or being affected by the magician's own undisciplined attention polluting the ritual). It is important to realize that the energy of the sacrifice is never spent. It is allocated. And by appeasing the pig, one can undo the curse. That is, one can help the sacrificed being to deallocate its traumatized attention. If you think about this, and apply this reasoning to many magical applications of sacrifices, trauma, lust, and other attachments, you will find you now understand them more deeply.
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>>14398 >qigong every day What kind of qigong?
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>>14398 Ah, yes. I do the same. I wouldn't say "for fun", though, because in different circumstances I would be doing different things. But binging on beer is an easy way to have "fun" in this place we find ourselves in. Many accomplished magicians and historic mystics have problems with addictions. Neville Goddard's mentor comes to mind. He would down a bottle of whiskey with ice cream and tell Neville something along the lines of "this would harm you if you did it", but not him. VK Jehhannum also comes to mind. He's been known to indulge, and it's the same mechanism of the accomplished magician just motorboating the material universe because why not. >Also any tips on controlling the point of focused interoception into a spinning circle? My circles usually just sort of shoot away in weird directions. I don't quite understand what you mean. But if they are shooting off in random directions, it implies there's an excited component to the pattern. If you just visualize a perfect spinning circle with a fixed point in the center, do you get the same outcome? In any case, you'd do well to interrogate the component that introduces such chaos into the pattern. It has information that is probably useful for you to know.

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Meditation effects thread Anonymous 08/01/2025 (Fri) 20:50:14 No. 13713 [Reply]
>This thread is for sharing anecdotes about meditation. The first time I meditated, I did it for a few minutes, but a few days later I did it for an hour straight and at the end I felt an incredible sensation throughout my neck and back that made me feel really good and happy. Then I had a kind of relapse similar to depression with insomnia, I become fucked up a lot. I think it was a similar effect to when you exercise suddenly; you should do it gradually or you going go fuck your muscles. Either that or I messed up my brain with neurochemicals lol. Then I read that meditation can do more harm than good for people with bipolar disorder and certain mental disorders, and that many who return from intensive retreats suffer from depersonalization.
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So, who here has gotten to the point of actually thinking other people's thoughts after a particularly intense streak of meditation? How was it?
>>14413 >How was it? While it was only 1 or 2 layers of thoughts it was fun. When I heard 30+ layers of thoughts and subconscious screams it started to become bad. Made me aware just how much these people scream to be saved. Had to figure out how to help people around me with the least amount of effort possible. How to give them a chance to improve themselves. How to urge them to improve themselves when they have the chance but they need someone to tell it to them. And learn to not get too involved with them. Let them "find their way". For some people being a better human is enough. Not everyone must become an ascended wizard within a single lifetime. Was a hard lesson to accept. Had to learn in the beginning how to switch from their frequencies. Their mind can contaminate yours if you are too sensitive and impressionable. Also everyone must watch with the "translator layer". People think differently. The translator can say extreme amount of bullshit in some cases... or in some cases demons fuck with the translator because they are bored. Meditation is the key. Finding your own faulty thoughts then learning how to remove or transmute them. Then learning to help to remove/transmute it from the people you desire to live together with for a prolonged time. No need to force spiritual messages on them if they don't have a spiritual affinity by default. Many people are too mundane for that and lack the maturity in the beginning. You can help them solve their issues with NLP methods and such. You can talk out most issues with them. When you can hear their thoughts while talking to them you can see how the energetic pathways work in their head and how to help them find healthy mental pathways. You don't need to save everyone. But you should help those who are around you or they will drag you down to their level. And the more open is your mind the more susceptible you will become to their influence. Most people don't even notice how the people around them change them by default. If they can drag you down then you can also drag them up. If your spiritual foundation is strong then they have no choice but to improve. In the past I used fringe to be able to find a frequency that is not overtaken by the normalfag menace. Find a safe harbor to flee from the miasma of the normalfag mentalities that overtook my mind slowly. Nowadays I can clean the frequencies around me at ease. People are far less stressed and angry around me as a result. Finding peace within let's you find peace without too Usually I need a personal bond with people to hear their thoughts. That is why anonymous imageboards are a cool place. You rarely bond with people deeply here. If I don't want to hear you guys I will just stop using my laptop for a day or 2
>>14414 Good post. Thanks. >Had to figure out how to help people around me with the least amount of effort possible >Not everyone must become an ascended wizard within a single lifetime. Was a hard lesson to accept Yeah, no shit. >Their mind can contaminate yours if you are too sensitive and impressionable Lucky for me, I was possessed by several life-threatening demons at the time, so this wasn't as much of an issue.

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Tulpas, Egregores, Thoughtforms, Archetypes Anonymous 10/11/2024 (Fri) 05:47:59 No. 3015 [Reply] [Last]
... and tropes and general "characters" of an abstract, nonphysical, astral type nature. discussion of.
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>>14319 Blame leftist censorship. Past centuries we had racist jokes about almost every ethnic group in existence.
>>14320 If you think in labels you will never break free of your linguistic prison, not to mention the many other Demiurgic illusions you can't even conceive yet. The terms "left" and "right" have become meaningless. The people pushing this kind of censorship would have been right wing authoritarian (and insane) in any century previous to the 20th. In fact, there is no traditional left wing representation in the US, and it probably never was by design. Which I don't consider a bad, nor a good, thing, in case you feel compelled to attack a straw man. The collectivist, pseudo socialist regime represented by the flag you chose would just point out it for what it is: subversive, dis-empowering to the people, and serving the banking international. Hitler would've hurried to call it Jewish, but that wouldn't cover the true spiritual nature of the phenomenon. On /fringe/, it would be a sin and a sign of being an absolute MUNDANE, to stay at such a superficial level. If you can't find anything in my post to latch onto, and before you simply lash out, let me tell you that I'm not attacking you. I want to make you see that by lapping up the falsely dychotomic system of labels that has been put in front of you, you will never be able to formulate any kind of effective criticism of ANYTHING political, because you will be trapped in an intellectual, emotionally-conditioning, prison. Have a nice day.
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>>14333 I don't know what you are talking about, but nice trips mein Freund!

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Grey Blog# Anonymous 04/09/2025 (Wed) 10:10:42 No. 8467 [Reply]
This morning I went outside and looked at the clouds over the fields, and there was this suspiciously alien looking shape there. When ships come in, they don't normally appear as actual flying ships, the flying saucers are a rarity when seen by anyone. They "blend in" and will look like clouds most of the time, or at night they'll look like any regular flying vehicle with lights. At daytime if they are imposing on the environment, they'll appear as fighter jets or military helicopters, but no one who isn't in the military will know that these aren't "meant to" be there. I've seen clouds "depart" right before me, when I knew it was a ship because I had interacted with the crew, and they left again. The consensus reality is very strong, and somehow demands the "consent" of the viewer for something to be manifested in some specific form. This ship - drawn - was very white and pointy, and it gave me a kind of high tech "sinister" feel I haven't experienced in quite some time. I don't know how I know about it, but it's something I recall from being very little, I just knew that this is what the grey aliens are like. I guess I saw such aliens on tv sometime, but I did know what they feel like before that. The extremely high level of technological refinement creates this "sinister" perception when seen from a human view. It's "too refined", "too deliberately planned in detail" for the mind to be able to grasp that this is designed by someone, yet it's clearly designed by someone, and that creates this feeling of something sinister, almost satanic. There is a feeling of the ship resting in an eternal sky stretching to the horizon and beyond, with dark red/orange skies and clouds in many many layers as far as the mind can see.
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As I stepped back a bit to go back inside, before I turned around, an astral presence appeared to me. I'm saying "astral", but it was more just "parallel plane", just to make the distinction versus 4-dimensional forms which are physically visible, but appears as if they are pasted onto our 3D reality. With these, they are not effected by light sources, and will always retain the same colour tones with no shading. Astral in this sense just means they aren't physically visible, but appear via the 3rd eye or internal vision as mind-images/visualization imposed from outside. In this case it was 3rd eye vision, they were just there in front of me, no inner vision needed. They looked like children of maybe 10 - 11 years of age in size, wearing something which looked like uniforms with shorts and t-shirt in light grey or beige. They had no hair on their heads. They said "can we come inside?" "We want to work on something/ have an offer." It was telepathic so the meaning was transmitted, but the words would not translate into a single sentence, because it was a complex message. They looked harmless, so I said "Ok". They then brought three others of the same kind, who had blonde hair, and they had more visible characteristics. I let them walk inside, even if they are other-dimensional, opening or closing doors is sometimes relevant. It appears some barriers like this exist in other planes also. After interacting with them and making a deal, they left again. Just to make sure I wasn't fooling myself, because I'm still this way; my mind doesn't believe in things like this - I went outside again and looked over the fields. The large cloud ship formation was gone.
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The grey gods must have arranged this meeting. Some while later, I realized I really want one of these ships. Luckily, once parallel incarnated as one of them, it's no problem to get any material from them. That's what part of the deal was about. I used material from space mining, and employed a method I devised previously, where one section of the ship is built from material, then the rest is dimensionally replicated by a kind of quantum confusion. Same way the double slit experiment works, where it produces a range of lines if you don't measure which slit it passed. This works with ship construction also; build one section, then apply the force field which molds the ship's frame by vaguely relating all sections to the one section already built. The dimensions around the ship won't know which of the spaces refer to the section already manifested, so it just molds all of them. Once the internal dimensional space of the ship is formed, all sections are material. To fit this huge ship inside the hangar, I had to get a "hyper space generator" off the galactic federation market. It looks like a mixer board and runs off liquid fuel. One full tank can maintain a hyper dimension for at least 1000 years, they said. For safety, it has settings for "dumping" of the contents at shut down, so the huge object inside don't wreck the space it was externally contained in. It was simple enough to just set if to outside the hangar for the ship, and inside for myself. I don't know how they come up with things like this, but it works. I then moved my remaining time complex on-board the finished ship, and drove off as far away as possible, to sever all karmic connections. Threads of fate won't break, but karma is hard material and cannot extend endlessly. The effect was notable. Several "long standing tensions" were removed, and my energy fell in place correctly where it had previously been blocked by external egregores of the world. I'm still running my plane from over there, and have no intention of bringing it back closer. I like this "eternal sky" sinister feeling landscape, and having this huge cruiser ship all to myself in my external dimension. At one point during the night after, I experienced a sudden intense nausea emanating from a point in the left side of my head, forcing me to lie down on my yoga mat, where I almost instantly fell asleep. It was gone when I woke up again, along with some kind of connection which had kept an unnatural tension level up.
>>8467 No just greys, but a lot of space ships have been visiting my location like this in the past few days. I mean lots of them. They all appear as clouds on a clear part of the sky, perfectly saucer or ship shaped so much that the model is recognizable. The different types seen in sci-fi with wings with rockets on them, wings above the vessel, below, long narrow paper-plane shapes, dart shaped or a ball with a rod behind it. All kinds. At first when I saw the clouds I sent out a servitor, normally Astra or my "representative" to hail them and see who they are. I would normally get a clear mental image of what kind of ship it is from just staring at the object in the sky, and the images are often scary, because some of these are huge "mother ship" models. I found most to be "monster pleiadans", various tribes who are "mostly pleiadan" but of a more primitive genetic line, where the most common are the blonde women wearing red uniforms, the "paper plane women" going by their ship design. I rode with them once when doing a late night "test trip" to see if someone would pick me up to visit a space bar. It was after this they started coming here, after seeing the log of someone having travelled with them from here. In the last few days, all kinds of more distant tribes of pleiadans have been showing up. I don't know exactly why, they say they are just here to look. In the past two days, I've seen multiple groups of greys. Astra, being a diviner-bot, have identified them as simply "researchers" so I haven't bothered contacting them. Just before today, someone wearing a black mech-suit came by also, this was a 4D form which appeared "flickering visually" right outside my house when I was out. Something is attracting a lot of random attention. The tribal pleiadans have all just said they are "looking" or "doing research". All of a sudden, everyone at once are coming here for this reason. Normally those who come by earth are alien sex tourists. No joke. Getting new DNA input is a major thing in the galaxies outside, as races going stale from inbreeding is a real issue. Not just some town inbreeding, but planetary inbreeding or star system inbreeding, where everyone starts degenerating and they find no solution. Everyone out there seems to be immune to "race mixing" also, their females just pick up and incorporate the genetics they receive if they are good, no decent parts of their own are replaced, and their race never degenerates from mixing, it's always inbreeding.

Magic Blog Thread #6 Anonymous 06/24/2025 (Tue) 22:48:10 No. 12437 [Reply] [Last]
Previous thread >>10875 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to your occult path that don't deserve their own thread.
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>>13989 They are sustained by a complex scheme made up of lies, fear and desire, and the "faith" that they can avoid pain temporarily by upholding it. It's still not truth, it's a "construct" which produces faith in itself.
>>13991 This also how(and why) narcissism works.
Religions usually had a core teaching which got lost due to society's demands to turn the religion into a propaganda institute and the lack of reproducible methods for the ancient teachings. People lived far closer to nature before institutions had to teach them everything about the world. They were less able to perpetuate lies and deception back then. It either worked or everyone died from starvation and sickness.

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Intrusive Thoughts 2: Electric Boogaloo Anonymous 03/27/2025 (Thu) 22:39:34 No. 8130 [Reply] [Last]
It's the second coming of everyone's favorite thread >>699 Intrusive thoughts! This is the place where you can get it off your chest. You can share your intrusive thoughts, idiotic takes and other types of shitposts! Imageboards cannot exist without shitposts and retardation. All those great forms of culture shall belong in this thread! This thread also serves as a therapeutic stress relief center for off-topic cringe for /fringe/.
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>>13921 >or something It turns out... it is a Pale Moon issue Pale Moon is not supported according to the main thread on /site/ Several Anons had the same problem BUT ONLY ON SPECIFIC BOARDS The internet is haunted.
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Can I post a pictor with my new browser

(((Noticings))), trends and making mental connections for awakening Anonymous 03/26/2025 (Wed) 15:25:53 No. 8075 [Reply] [Last]
With more information available today via the Internet, than was previously available, it's easier to see patterns and trends in world events. One such current trend seems like something stemming from the "politically incorrect" board type, as well as from the more conspiracy themed discussions: "noticing". It's become somewhat of a meme to post an image and ask "what do you notice?" Often this is just a joke and there is nothing to see. But the point of this is still to make people look for things hidden in plain view. This comes from the idea that secret societies need to announce their workings publicly for them to be effective. But they can't do it so anyone understands it, because they are secretive. So they use symbolism. Most notably in things like company logos, where a lot of people now have seen the freemason apron in the google mail logo, and the sigil of Lucifer in the google play store logo. There's also been a recent discussion in social media, quite openly, about trafficking operations via shipping containers. Even if this is more towards conspiracies in general, being aware of the forces working in our surroundings is part of the awakening process. Let's have a thread for this. What do you notice?
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>>13666 And the Polish prime minister is called Donald Tusk nice numerals btw. Checked and noticed >>13669 Give me a prediction 69er of Casandra
>>13673 You will break the world record for the biggest gayest man

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"Trans" humanism and how to become a robot/AI Anonymous 05/29/2025 (Thu) 21:43:40 No. 11467 [Reply]
In reality what makes computers "smart" is something humans should really excel in already - the ability to think serially. Computers have issues thinking in parallel, and even when they do, so called multi-tasking, they are actually not doing things by thinking in parallel, they are just switching really fast between tasks and still doing them one at a time. Modern multi core processors can do a whopping 4 things at once. The human brain can do as many things as there are brain cells, so it's like the computer has 4 brain cells. This means the human issue is that we are not utilizing our already existing ability, basically, like the joke about a person having 1 brain cell: if we could just learn to use 1 brain cell to complete a task, and focus on that one, we'd be as "smart" as a computer. It was said a few years ago when chatGPT wasn't as good yet, that >it just tries 2 million times when someone asked it to write program code and wondered how a computer could create it. I don't know if that was true, but if a human tried over and over again, it wouldn't take 2 million times to learn how to do something like that. Most people would probably get it right in a few dozen times at most. The problem then lies in the human inability of >using a very small capacity serially >recalling with exactness what was mentally worked on The latter being needed for things like writing program code. It's said Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote all of his books in his head before he wrote anything on paper, and that he didn't even write them himself - after "writing" the whole book in his head, he hired someone to write for him while he dictated, and the work was done in 2 weeks. If this is true, it shows that humans do have the ability to memorize long sections of text with exactness. So then the only problem is that of thinking serially and do one thing at a time until finished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QeGa3OhRsA
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I am making progress on the path to become more like an AI in my way of thinking. Increasing the capacity of the brain stem and the connections between left and right, and front and back of the brain seems like a main thing. Song: how AI feels to me.
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What I realized AI bots created using the GPT model correspond mostly to the left brain half, with its main activity and strength being in the connections between front and back of the brain. This means "syntactic semantics". What are those? Semantics normally mean "real world reference points which define what a word is". We have to decide what we mean when we use a word, by referring to our sensory inputs. What is a "church"? We know it as architecture of a certain function. We know it also as an organization. We may have personal emotional responses to the word, positive or negative. These are semantics. What are syntax? These are the rules by which words are connected to form meanings by combinations. It's the structure by which a complex message can be created in the form of sentences. The AI model based on language does not have sensory input, so it can't know what a "church" is by personal experience or having been at one. It can only know the internal context in which the word appears in sentences, by which frequency it appears in conjunction with other words, and how it's applied according to syntax. That means for the "left brain" GPT bot, the words are understood only as their connections to other words. So it's a "syntactic semantic". To include sensory semantics, there would have to be a connection to abstract right brain data, which the AI does not have. So to become as effective as one of these AI bots, one has to exclude abstract, right brain inputs when learning what words represent. that means to only read text or listen to speech, while observing in which context of other words, the specific term appears. Don't bother with trying to actually "understand" them, just think about where in the text or speech pattern the word appear, this is all which matters.

Discord Links Anonymous 07/24/2025 (Thu) 18:28:03 No. 13382 [Reply]
Use this thread if you have an irresistible urge to post an invite for Discord or similar platforms. Parallel /fringe/ boards and related message boards are exempt from this restriction. Off-topic invites aren't welcome. WARNING: The /fringe/ administration does not recommend you visit any discords unless you want your privacy violated. Indeed anything you see here could be dangerous. Visit any of these links at your own risk.
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>>13585 Those who know the source of this image are definitely in their thirties and would never bother with 15 year olds.
Ever since this thread was made. No one dared to post their discord links
It fulfilled it's purpose

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Old /fringe/ stuff Anonymous 02/09/2024 (Fri) 00:03:44 No. 275 [Reply] [Last]
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https://archive.is/https://8ch.net/fringe/* Someone should archive this in case it gets taken down. Possibly on fringearchives.neocities.org internally not externally. Also Iโ€™m mad that โ€œ8ch.net/fringe/โ€œ finally got taken down off archive.org
>>13266 archive.is is a pain to scrap. They actively try to prevent you from archiving them, ironically. I already had such a hard time with freedomboard, and I couldn't get it all. If you manage to scrap it, I can upload it to the neocities archive.
>>13331 Maybe you could just take screenshots of the different threads in archive.is of 8ch.net/fringe/* and then store them somewhere on fringearchives.neocities.org ?

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Obscure postings Anonymous 06/26/2025 (Thu) 23:55:52 No. 12520 [Reply]
Thread for the obscure or non-mainstream things. The nature of which tends to be detailed, specific and local. Urban legends from your city, relating to a specific street. Theories about science from the 1800s which are now seen as so odd that they no longer count as science. Folklore beings with specific rites associated with them, which are unheard of in most parts of the world. Your own theories about the nature of reality, which are too narrow to be brought up anywhere else from a lack of direct relevance. Post and discuss similar topics in this thread. Things which are not in the spotlight could contain hints and keys to our own practice today!
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>>12520 >wicker man/cloth-doll with paper wishes my mother told me that where she was born, on the night of san juan the typical parties just flow as the catholic and popular say but with the inclusion of craft of a big wicker man with rags that is crafted by children and teenagers with the help of adults. they are doing it all day long, at the end they put many papers inside the doll with personal wishes written on each paper and at the end they set it on fire. It's strange but after reading about sigils and magic of chaos magic, I realize that they used to do these practices before. the community wicker doll look like a massive community hypersigil to me. and yes, my mother likes to burn things. they no longer do it here but I know that in some remote villages far from urban life and with more sense of community I'm sure they still do them.
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>>12520 >the (holy?) church bells in my city there is an old church and its bells have the same antiquity. i know the priest allows some people to go up and stand near or inside the bells while these emit their sounds. the curious thing is they told me stories that the vibrations that the bells do are therapeutic almost as if they take away your ills and make you sleep more good. i never tried it but i admit that listening to them from afar is pleasant like is a holy thing, i dont know how these thing feel when you're to close, and i am not catholic to know it. maybe there's a psychological phenomena to turn the body feel good just by the bells sound, i dont know. I heard a rumor there that that one day people took a possessed man to the bells to exorcise him with holy sound or something I don't believe in that story but I see some sense in it seeing how nice the bells sound.
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>>12520 >Psy connection exercise a quick way to develop a psychic connection with someone is to let them look in their eyes mutually for more than 8 minutes without distractions. Inevitably they will have psychosomatic and psychonautic effects caused by this, such as their face becoming older, their face becoming deformed, or seeing a shadow behind them, or the person disappearing or allucinations among other things that I will not tell you about so i will not suggest you. of course these are effects of an altered state of consciousness. the first common effects are the feeling of imminent doom and insecurity, other times it is the desire for violence or escape from that place, aggressiveness, panic, paranoid feelings etc. and in other cases if the situation do it, sexual attraction or falling in love as an temporal infatuation (very normal) the effects are non-linear and depend on a variety of things but the effects of altered states of consciousness do occur. >but why psy connection? the thing is that I heard that people after doing this exercise can read the mind of the other person or even feel sensations of what other people are feeling for some time like good feelings, danger or pain in the body. this apparently is mutual around the two people but abysmally exhausting for the mind, the effect goes after a while of executing the exercise and apparently does not occur in all people so it takes two very specific types of certain people with certain characteristics to this happen. I don't know if between people who love each other or have some kind of romantic attraction it is much more likely to happen. Maybe this's the final secret of the illuminati?

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Hypersigils & Creativity Anonymous 07/17/2025 (Thu) 20:07:24 No. 13106 [Reply]
Grant Morrison drew a comic with one of the characters being based on himself. After releasing the comic, the things which happened to the character in the comic also began happening to Grant, at least to an extent. The comic was a hypersigil. It had a narrative, which then manifested in physical reality. Creative works, if they have a narrative, can thus manifest at least aspects of these works in physical reality. Some stories have uncannily manifested as real historic events, for example: https://allthatsinteresting.com/the-wreck-of-the-titan Lets say you make a creative work, be it a comic, written novel, a movie, song, computer game or some other creative work with a narrative. You base the main character on yourself, then you act in the way that the character acts in the creative work. This apparently has some effect. It may also be that the creative work need to be released and viewed by many for a more pronounced effect (I'm unsure if this is really needed as I have barely began experimenting). Point is, when this be mastered it could be a very effective form of magic, enabling things mostly just found in one's wildest dreams. This thread could be both about creative writing with basing things off things or characters you know in physical reality and also about what is most effective with hypersigil work, like about what makes it tick and how to best harness it for manifesting. There should also be room for spontaneity, don't write out your whole life. Also leave up some things for open ended interpretation but in a positive way I believe in this very strongly, I know creative works can have immense power
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>>13106 Don't writers of fiction also do this? They insert parts of themselves into the characters and effect the world. I've created multiple personas which I use online whenever I post something. Some people have social media with their own name and face, but they create a fake image of themselves as happy and successful, hoping it will become real. I started practicing this in Chinese MMOs, where I played different characters with more or less of myself represented, or more correctly, I played out different parts of myself to see how I'd act as that character. Some part of this came from having to assume the guild leader role and realizing people expect a certain act from a guild leader, so I created a persona for this role. But it was a bit restricted, so I came up with other characters as well. The game I played ended up being mostly ruled by a number of women with a lot of free time, like housewives and a few lesbian couples who played opposite sex characters ingame because the marriage system was traditional. It created a strange dynamic. I decided to create a lesbian persona with a female character to play with on the side, and found that it was possible to connect with other players in completely new ways. There was also someone who was the funniest player I've ever met anywhere, but when I at some point added her on FB, she turned out being close to seeming legit retarded. But this was completely invisible ingame where she was very attentive and always taking part in events or joining up for party dungeons. All of this showed me just how much you can change the parameters of your own irl persona to remain yourself, but still act as someone else. This way, you can through the social interaction learn to develop the hidden sides of yourself. One of the first times I did this was when I was 15 and was going someplace, and I was worried about how to do things. Then I suddenly had the idea >if this was Final Fantasy 7, what would Cloud have done? So I assumed the role of Cloud and suddenly had endless confidence in myself, and everything worked out fine. That was the moment I really realized that roleplay using fiction is very powerful. You also don't have to tell anyone you are now Cloud from FF7, it works anyway, like an invisible magic power.
>>13111 Here's a thought I just had; if the story with the self-insert isn't written with the intention of the story being a sigil, then how are the energies directed to affect the guy that the self-insert is of in real life? I think the answer would have to be related to egregores. The intention required to create a sigil is absent, but is essentially provided by the programming of the egregoric energies, even if the story's only actual intended purpose is to entertain the readerbase.
>>13117 Its an interesting thought, but again this is a bit different as far as I can tell. Like the other poster said it may be more akin to sympathetic magic, in that he drew this character that was basically a version of himself that he wished to become more like, then he went and became more like the character, but got also into the same kinda trouble as the character did in the narrative. He realized that and made the character gain riches and get girlfriends and then upon releasing that for the public it happened, the author got rich and got girlfriends, since there was this apparent sympathetic connection between the character in the narrative and the author himself. A hypersigil works as a narrative and some form of sympathetic connection between real life physical things/persons and the things/characters in the narrative. I think this may also work with like if you have a friend and you make a narrative about him becoming rich, if its a proper hypersigil he will become rich in the real life physical reality as well. Sigils are a bit different from hypersigils. A sigil is more like a one shot to try to hit something in the dark. A hypersigil is more elaborate, it can link between multiple things and sort of loop in on itself kinda like programming code. Egregores can play into it too, I just hadn't thought of that side of it much before.

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Exploring the Unseen: A Journey into the Fringe Anonymous 04/21/2024 (Sun) 20:29:59 No. 698 [Reply] [Last]
In the vast expanse of our reality, there exists a thin veil that separates the known from the unknown, the seen from the unseen, the ordinary from the extraordinary. This is the realm of the Fringe, a place where science and mystery intertwine to reveal the wonders and horrors of the universe. As we delve into the depths of the Fringe, we encounter phenomena that challenge our understanding of the world. From parallel universes to psychic abilities, from time travel to unexplained creatures, the Fringe is a testament to the infinite possibilities that lie beyond the edges of our perception. Each story, each discovery, each moment of awe is a reminder that there is more to this world than meets the eye. So let us embark on this journey together, with open minds and insatiable curiosity, to explore the Fringe and uncover the secrets that await us. Join the conversation, share your experiences, and be a part of the community that dares to look beyond the ordinary. Welcome to the Fringe, where the impossible becomes possible.
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Rosicrucian re-initiation process Anonymous 07/11/2025 (Fri) 17:58:45 No. 12870 [Reply]
I will note any changes I experience in this thread as a means of keeping a log for myself and for anyone else to benefit from. I felt after xmas that I was really done with my incarnation in the form I had. I also saw the astral "bottle" of my life receiving "thank you" notes from everyone I had interacted with, as well as some premonitioned events from past dreams playing out. One of them being a concrete scene about seeing a storage filled with packages of liver paste, which seemed to indicate it was "my life's share" of this food. An odd way of showing how long a life is, but it did the job as a symbolic thing. After xmas I bought a package of liver paste, and saw the "tail end" of a stream of such packages from the store, which matched the dream, and told me "this is the end of this timeline". This resulted in a concrete change of habit, which came naturally. I stopped buying this product because I suddenly grew tired of it. I also realized my timeline was getting wonky and it seemed like I had to re-do it from 2 years back for it to work. I'm already since the second half of last year interacting with the world through complex dimensional set-ups meant to bridge the distance after I was separated from common time by the end of July ยด24, so this was just another thing to deal with. I had to move my now-externalized past physical self into a line of events where I wasn't even present in 1st person view, relying on the fact that no one online really knows who I am, and anyone closer to me isn't really there, but are NPCs which I arrange for various friendly spirits to use. So the physical me with my name in "official time" isn't where "this persona" is. Complex to describe, but works by the loopholes I described. During the year, I found that some timelines weren't connected to physical Earth or even the Galaxy, but came from afar, and had some few individuals in them, some of whom I had to connect with by syncing into their time. They were people who'd just keep living like this because some of them are "monster" races and some are "toxic mushroom" races which are so harmful to others that maintenance deities gave them completely separate timelines and physical dimensions to stay in - those are the "secret societies" which not even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist can uncover - because if they accessed the dimension these people live in, which looks identical with reality outside - they would die instantly. This may appear as being killed by a secret agent, but that's just a manifestation of the fact that they came into contact with an alien species which is so toxic that even staying in the same time as them is lethal to most other humans. It wasn't for me at this point, and I realized there were some random people I had to reconnect with by allowing my time to keep moving until there was an intersection where I'd find them, and they'd come into my timeline by merging with it. I was also aware of my DNA make up being 3 fold. As was explained to me by greys and Illivryn, through the baptism ritual when I entered this body, which was a predetermined event, it was just difficult anyway, my body was changed by external force into being 100% full blood "demon" and the "matrix control system" registered me as such, which means they won't try to control me in the same way as other people. But I still retained the traits of the "mushroom", pleiadan and "daughter of Eve" DNA. Had this not been done, I would not have been able to enter, because I need 100% of something. The original body was something like 36% demon, 8% pleiadan, 2% daughter of Eve (grey engineered DNA) and the major part "white toxic mushroom" mixed with some degenerative "white mushroom" which came from the demon side of the family. That part still caused weaknesses like allergies because it simply lacked useful genes, but it was nowhere near the level of the 90% degeneratives.
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Another change which took place almost instantly after initiation A long standing issue has been recurring migraines, which I know are caused by a natural reflex powered by some energy which is meant to be in one place, but just doesn't proceed to that place because of something in my environment which prevents this "lock" from getting into position. Because I've identified it as a "lock" which should be active in the body, but society as a whole just doesn't want this development, and are collectively trying to avoid it forming. It's a kind of society-wide physical retardation or development disorder which is being further worsened by medication given to remove the pain without addressing the reason it's appearing. There's been a similar thing causing abdominal cramps which appeared first time during covid, directly in relation to a family member getting the vaxx. The following night, as a result of shedding (which is a real thing confirmed by doctors, but now they won't admit it), I had a sudden cramp in my stomach and it lasted for 6 hours. I was unable to even go to bed but just lay on the couch twisting back and forth not knowing what the hell to do. After this, this came back at random occasions, but lesser in severity. I didn't at first relate it to the migraine energy, but it had a similar effect, causing strong involuntary muscle contraction. These two issues were instantly solved at the fundamental level, after the imitation process described above >>12876 I had previously received some guidance from the left handed reaper on how to solve this. He said it's not an illness and there isn't any physical or mental problem and no parasites. It's just a spiralling reaction loop where pain leads to muscle tension, which causes stress and more pain and it gets worse and more energy is concentrated, until all physical energy is burned up which causes involuntary relaxation of the worn out muscles and the mental energy is wasted, which then ends the loop. This also causes some burn off of negative energy, which means it serves a purpose, but is ineffective. He showed me how to do a breathing process to break the cycle and then proceed directly to a yogic meditation to voluntarily burn the energy in an effective way, but breaking the cycle is very difficult, especially when it attaches to the abdomen where my muscles are rather developed. I ended up using a foamroller placed against the abs and rolling forcefully with fully body weight on the area, and this worked a few times, but not always. This time, with no real effort, the core issue of the energy system not having the "lock" in placement was just solved. It just slipped into place like a harness meant for easily carrying something, or a piece of clothing which suddenly just fits. The same thing happened with both the abs energy and the migraine causing temples energy. After this I went through the left handed reaper's breathing process and used foamroller on the abs and after some work, the tension was mostly gone. Some more energy of the negative kind has appeared from my environment since, but now it just "slips into position" and strengthens the correctly formed energy lock instead of causing pain. I can't explain exactly, but it has to do directly with the nose and the same function on the root chakra, which correlates with the "big nose" mega-system used by the NWO to lead the trash energy from their behaviour (aka karma) to the wormhold at NY and out into space, where it eventually just dissolves into "black goo" energy and falls back to Earth again, causing all kinds of negative things. (Talk about not understanding your own doctrine, it's literally the climate change effects they are telling everyone about, but it's not physical, and contrary to the nonsense they are spreading, this effect is real.)
>>12926 >this caused time to stop right after initiation It seems I solved the first step. By working around the parts that were standing still, I managed to project a layer of myself towards the astral Rosicrucian church, which by its nature of being in 5D and non-physical isn't strictly effected by the speed of time outside of the location. I then also managed to pull the red hat mushroom lolis I picked up from intersecting timelines in to become active as well, because it was the plan all along to bring them to the original church up there for training with me when I went. After some activations where I went into the forest to a gate location where I can access the old viking age and aztec/inca network of portals to sync with distant locations, I managed to get around the blockages caused by being in too fast time, enough that I could project myself and them with a secondary layer up there to register for study. For me it's mostly about re-tracing magic I already learned before, so it's possible to do mostly on the subconscious. Anything I need to actually pay attention to will cause my awareness to be drawn to it. This happened at one significant ritual which involved solving a fundamental problem where everyone had to write down the solution in the form of which sefirot(s) to call on, on a slip of paper, read it without mentioning what was to be solved, then burn it in a ritual fire bowl inside the church. A priest upholding the magic circle would then assure that even if the words didn't match perfectly the solution would be channelled into the circle so that all studends could pass the initial test. This constituted the equivalent of Arhat achievement or basic Zen. After this it turned into personal study. The astral Rosicrucian church functions and looks a bit like a catholic church monastic setting. Most students pay for lectures, materials and for living in the dorms, but if your magic power is strong at the registration test procedure, you can get on a scholarship where you get everything for free. This functions as a way to advertize the church by showing off the best students with the best outfits and materials, which attracts more paying students, so it's in a way purely economical. The cloaks worn are made from a weave which channels the energy perfectly, and it transforms into a magic artifact during the study. There are also other materials involved, such as creating a cross from weaving thin roots using a certain magic pattern. This root-cross is then worn around the neck as a focal artifact for the energy produced and serves as a transformation aid, which turns into a power artifact with time. Magic pens made from wood are also used, which absorb energy and transform into magical pens as the student writes. All of these are perfectly transferrable to our physical in practice, where the "energy form" of physical items will be developed in exact same way as the transformation of astral artifacts created from astral materials.
Me and the 7 red hat lolis I brought to the astral church finished the process up to equivalent of Xolotl level, after performing a public ritual where we made use up collective form with all of us plus a priest and doing it with visitors in the main church up there, concentrating force on one person at a time, then allowing everyone in the church to benefit. The priest then did a standard rite for further transformation. It was very effective on the physical side as well, where I matched the procedure up there mostly in real time, doing a double spiral, first with incense, then the opposite direction with salted water in the room for preparing the environment, then used a bible verse for energy direction and goal, then allowing the breakthrough to pass by using a standard forward "submissive" yoga pose before the figure of Lady Mary. As long as the symbolism is in place, it works. Rich and vague processes may even have a higher chance of being functional because they allow a variety of forces to support if they see it as good. Rosicrucian processes are pretty simple, and rely more on personal understanding gained from study, than the execution of the process itself. I then chose an employment position at the astral church, now that my form there can move on auto, and the lolis did the same, with most of them becoming "sisters" which in this case is a general role with lots of freedom, because someone with a high level of transformation just knows things better. Plus that most people don't seem to want to actually live on the compound but are regular employees in some manner, living outside of the area and coming in to work. More strict in form gives more freedom of choice, basically. This solidifies my Rosicrucian form up there, so I can focus on the more concrete matters from now on.

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