>>701 roll

Great idea for a thread. I would've posted >>389 (14) here, had it existed then.

>>716 Yeah I wanted to make it for a while but it's important to word it well and conceptualize the proper energies with the post or it gets ignored or some mofo misinterprets it and derails it. It's important to not make people be bound dependent or enter into an eternal feedback loop with their intrusive thoughts but give a way for them to untangle and heal them. You see how annoying deranged schizos are. What if we could heal them and help them realize that their eccentric curses can be the highest gifts too once knowing how to use them. Ofc figuring out the way is not always easy. Also I wanted to make a "gnosis" thread too with these kind of revelations but I did not just want it to make it into an idle thinktank but explaining the way of generating and achieving higher gnosis too but that is nuanced and I didn't manage to find the words yet. It's not just about making others follow "my way" but making them explain the importance of finding their own way and contributing in a way they can help others to realize their own truth. It's just about figuring out how our intuition works and the higher currents of the mind. While magic is the most arcane art ever it can be obvious and natural like breathing once the proper channels are open. How to open them? Now that's not just tricky but varies with every person. Depends on their genetics their awakening level and their soul origin. I am still looking at how to make that thing effortless and not a free ticket into the mental asylum. "Birthing" wizards is one thing but keeping them away from reckless actions while awakening their individual potential in a safe manner? Yeah... If we could do that fringe wouldn't be this deserted. >>713 Welcome Nipponizard. You may use the Shinto flag from now on. May the Shinto gods and realms guide your way.

>>701 Rollan

GOD JEHOVAH! GOD OF VENGEANCE! HE WILL DEVOUR YOU! >>701 rolling

>>744 I got dubs! I choose Fuhrer wizard.

I am a mage the ascension fan. I like the game because I provides a diverse and very adaptable magic system. With that out of the way. After a lot of reading, I came to the conclusion that I am a widderslainte, a person whose avatar was inverted in a past incarnation. Point is I might have at least partially undone what was wrong with me. I might have reinverted my avatar. I don't get the omnicidal urges anymore. This place seems like one of the best places to ask. Did I just magically castrate myself, or something like that? Magic is a lot harder to do now, some of the spells that were trivial to me give me headaches now.

>>701 Roller

>>759 >I am a mage the ascension fan And I am waiting for the VTMB sequel but I guess I will wait a decade more because that franchise is cursed. >I like the game because I provides a diverse and very adaptable magic system Yeah quite the wide lore. They have quite the gems but I cannot say I know them well. I rarely read or enter discussions about them. >I came to the conclusion that I am a widderslainte Ohkay https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Widderslainte I just read this and this is not exactly making a lot of sense. >person whose avatar was inverted in a past incarnation Yeah and was inverted into what? Things are not always black and white. You can divert from your soul origin a million ways. >Point is I might have at least partially undone what was wrong with me Yeah you have to define what is "partially" and "wrong" here. Not to mention half-assing things does not result in improvement. It's like trying to clean up dry shit then you just doze it with water then leave it there instead of finishing the job. Now you just produced wet stinking shit instead of actually cleaning up. >I might have reinverted my avatar You can divert from your soul origin further or create a sort of false ego or false light instead of finding your own truth. It can get complicated and varies person by person. >I don't get the omnicidal urges anymore y-yeah me neither h-haha >This place seems like one of the best places to ask We will see >Did I just magically castrate myself, or something like that? I think you just merely twisted your own nuts or blue balled yourself and didn't exactly castrate yourself. If you actually castrated yourself you would turn into an absolute NPC. >Magic is a lot harder to do now, some of the spells that were trivial to me give me headaches now. Yeah that can come from many things. First of all casting spells "In your prime" might result in dirty and clogged meridians if you do it mindlessly (I know that from my own experience). You will have to understand how the energies move because instead of "regenerating mana" you just simply clog your energy channels without realizing. Not to mention the inner soul forms and the soul origins need to be "harmonized" and not "Inverted" whatever that even means for you. Working with higher gods and the Buddhas helped me more and slowly eroded my urges that stemmed from mundane degeneracy that society sprays us with 24/7. But I cannot say I am "Holy" yet the only reason I am working with them is that I need a proper understanding how my powers work because psychic anomalies can get ridiculous but I am sure you know that from your setting already. Not to mention "magic" is a wide term so I am not sure what you are doing wrong. There is a reason throwing shit around and seeing what sticks and truly cultivating is a whole different thing altogether. Currently I don't have a good enough grasp on your situation so I cannot give a conclusive reply yet. What I understand so far is that a >widderslainte is a sort of psycho but what made him into a psycho is an another question altogether. Is it something his soul origin dictated? A mere coincidence? Was it fated? Did the soul merge with vengeful natural forces like... some posters in this thread? Sometimes finding out your past life origin is not enough because you will have to find out the origin of your origin. What forces created your past life and what forces are still at play from it. Some people say that "you have to retrace your own path" then find out the anomalies and how they infect the future lives and how they generate/uphold a sort of karma. >>760 Cosmic wizard is nice. Becoming one truly explains all the nature of the reality.

>>759 You just need to get used to drawing from a truth that isn't entirely negative. Or you could reconstruct your old astral matrix in a partitioned area of your self to mitigate it causing unintentional damage. Although that could just cause the original flaw to re-emerge if you aren't vigilant.

>>761 Wait really? You know its a shame your a schizo or I'd ask wtf why do you not post on >>>/tg/. I mean hell our group was thinking of running a mage campaign.

>>759 Also I'm going through a very similar corrective working on myself at the moment, and I also spent quite a while reading MtAs sourcebooks for metaphysical inspiriation in the past. Funny coincidences.

>>763 >wtf why do you not post on >>>/tg/. ... Because I lack free time for that and I should meditate anyways. Not to mention your "setting" is not original it is a mesh of several magic traditions and creativity derived from them. It describes things that actually can happen. >shame your a schizo If you say so. What other "class" do you consider less of a "shame" you dork.

>>761 I didn't think I'd get replied to so soon. I'm currently writing down my experience in a coherent manner, that way it will be easier for others to understand. >Yeah you have to define what is "partially" and "wrong" here. Not to mention half-assing things does not result in improvement. It's like trying to clean up dry shit then you just doze it with water then leave it there instead of finishing the job. Now you just produced wet stinking shit instead of actually cleaning up. I just don't like dealing with absolutes, it allows hubris to take hold and absolutes restrict freedom of thought. I'm suspicious, because it was all gone it an instant, that whatever caused me all of this has just stopped influencing me, so as to let me lower my guard and come back when I can't hold it off properly. I used to word "partially" because I don't want to think reinverted my avatar, a feat that in the game's lore is almost impossible. How could I ,some guy, do such a thing, that would be extremely unlikely. What I felt was "wrong" with me is complex. I wasn't just this: I felt the call of oblivion. To destroy all, to corrupt, to defile etc. I might have made my problem worse, that's why I'm here asking. >Yeah and was inverted into what? Avatars in mtas guide the mage to ascension. Think of it as The Great Work, an alchemist creating the philosopher's stone. An inverted avatar guides the mage to the descension, the opposite of ascension, A second characteristic of an inverted avatar is that it compels the mage who has one to do things that help that mage to descend. This in practice manifests as the mage being compelled to do really evil shit. >clog your energy channels without realizing. I looked into myself and that might be the case. My connection to my avatar isn't as strong as it could be because there is something blocking it. I could unclog it, but I won't. Things work enough as they are now and perhaps the newly cleared connection could be exploited by my avatar to exert influence onto me. >Did the soul merge with vengeful natural forces like... some posters in this thread? This has been going on for the past 8 or so years. This thread was created a week ago. >You can divert from your soul origin further or create a sort of false ego or false light instead of finding your own truth. It can get complicated and varies person by person. I used, and still use, that as a coping mechanism. >>762 >You just need to get used to drawing from a truth that isn't entirely negative. I'm planing on doing that. >Or you could reconstruct your old astral matrix in a partitioned area of your self to mitigate it causing unintentional damage. Although that could just cause the original flaw to re-emerge if you aren't vigilant. What do you mean by astral matrix, my avatar, the astral body? If that's the case I wasn't talking about that. I was referring to this: https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Avatar . I don't think I can astrally project. >>759 Good luck.

>>779 By astral matrix I mean the energetic construct that your awareness is attached to and filters itself through in order to perceive and interact with the world. In regards to your 'avatar', aka the part of your 'soul' that 'channels a higher power', I would suggest that you spend some time in meditation attempting to connect your awareness directly to this part of yourself, such that you're able to 'look through its eyes'. Eventually you'll be able to act from that perspective, will allow for greater functionality on your part. Also keep in mind that channeled game mechanics/lore is never going to match reality 1:1. It'll be effected by functional restrictions of the genre, the author's interpretation of the information being channeled, the reader's interpretation, irrelevant cultural influences, etc. >I just don't like dealing with absolutes, it allows hubris Think of it as faith. Regardless of what you're doing it's not going to work if you don't have faith. If you're afraid of becoming delusional, just listen to your intuition. Most self-deluded people know in their gut that something's wrong but cover it up with rationalizations.

>>779 >I didn't think I'd get replied to so soon I can wait more days before a reply if you want >I'm currently writing down my experience in a coherent manner, that way it will be easier for others to understand. Yeah forget coherence and easy to understand. You are still not giving enough detail about how you do your magic and how it is weaker. Not to mention using only tabletop lore as your mental framework is not a good idea long term. >I just don't like dealing with absolutes Yeah... Absolutes are not that simple. What you think as an absolute is not always the "end" usually it is just the beginning of the end a mere new chapter. >absolutes restrict freedom of thought True in a sense but only if you consider the absolute as a "limit" to your understanding. Sometimes you need to use it as a foundation. Btw I am still not getting what you consider an "absolute" here. I am not even sure absolutes exist anymore tbh. There is always a bigger fish always a higher truth always a backdoor or a workaround. >I'm suspicious, because it was all gone it an instant Yeah paranoia is not exactly a good thing to have because that usually reinforces the hold of negative entities in a way that their presence is not even needed anymore. >that whatever caused me all of this has just stopped influencing me Truth is I don't really feel a strong entity presence emanating from you but >so as to let me lower my guard and come back when I can't hold it off properly If you feel this way then you will have to inspect the origin of that feeling besides fear. Truth is most entities are pussies but that doesn't mean they are not persistent until they realize they have no chance against you. >How could I ,some guy, do such a thing, that would be extremely unlikely Yeah not having confidence within yourself weakens your energy body not to mention incarnated people have a strong energy body that blows away most non physical entities if they are not held back by lower energies like fear and anxiety or other substance abuses. Also I don't understand why you consider yourself >some guy Everyone starts the journey as the fool. I even heard somewhere that the name Jesus was as widespread as the name John back then. So Jesus was a mere average Joe. Every story starts with "some guy" doing "something" then shit happens. This is the Hero's journey. >What I felt was "wrong" with me is complex Yeah if you want help you will have to write it down further so I can figure out if it's an entity messing with you or it's actually a past life going mad energetically. >To destroy all, to corrupt, to defile etc. Yeah I too have that sometimes especially during shadow work. I remember when I had the urge to defile corpses. It turned out that is the energy that is within the entrails where "bacteria" is literally "defiling corpses". This is why fasting is encouraged in many faiths so these shit energies don't poison your pure energy practice. >I might have made my problem worse Yeah I am still not sure exactly of the parameters of the problem. What you describe here is something we all go through willingly. >I was referring to this: https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Avatar Okay i read this and you will have to get acquainted what is an ACTUAL avatar in spirituality. First off an "avatar" might be you the person in the flesh an avatar of your higher self. Second Gods had avatars where instead of actually incarnating they made an avatar that had to go through the birth process and the human learning/growth process then they realized who they are and developed abilities of their own truth like Krishna and other hindu beings. What is written here as an "avatar" is the same as what Jung figured out already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_and_animus I too have these "avatars" but I call them guides or past life shards or some aspects of my higher self. Some of them are mean assholes that need to learn their place while some of them are heralds of my own potential. >An inverted avatar guides the mage to the descension An "invented avatar" is literally the "Jungian shadow". And the "descension" is the shadow work we have to complete so we can figure out the energetic shackles that hold (back) our potential. It's not pretty for anyone. >is that it compels the mage who has one to do things that help that mage to descend Yes our shadow does that this is why we have to work with it and realize how the shadow is a part of our psyche that we are hiding from ourselves. And bottling it up does not help so we work with it so we can be free from the lower thoughts. First we realize the shadow can be an external entity we figure out how to deal with it then we realize the shadow is part of us and because of that we need to accept it and "free it" from these dark desires otherwise you both will suffer. The shadow work kicks the ass of many occultists if they don't pace themselves and lie to themselves during the process. The whitewolf wiki wrote down well how it can cause split personalities and other mental instabilities. This shadow once cleaned and reintegrated and understood can be used to breach into higher and lower realities. It becomes the "holy spirit". The Anima and Animus forces Jung described. And more. >This in practice manifests as the mage being compelled to do really evil shit. Oh and I am compelled to do evil shit to my shadow and to every entity that dares to overtake my shadow. Yes btw foreign entities can overtake parts of your subconscious and your shadow to influence you. If you don't consider the shadow "yourself" or part of yourself then others can overtake it. This is why shadow work can get messy if you don't know what you are doing. This is why unstable people are cautioned to not invoke powerful forces or demons because if their psyche is weak the shadow gets overcharged and overtakes the occultist. This is magic 101 here. >I looked into myself and that might be the case Yeah this is how I see it too currently. You said you did magic and you are bad at it now. Those who can do magic effortlessly have a powerful aura that is easy to feel. While I am not the master of psychic sensitivity yet I can still notice sometimes how much power someone holds if I pay attention. >My connection to my avatar isn't as strong as it could be because there is something blocking it. I could unclog it, but I won't Yeah if your avatar would be strong it would literally jump through my screen while trying to look into you. It is quite dormant and I am not even sure if I "see" the "avatar" you are talking about at all. >Things work enough as they are now If you feel that way then I am not sure if there is a point helping you in any way. This is your own journey your own life. Proceed as you see fit. >the newly cleared connection could be exploited by my avatar to exert influence onto me. What newly created connection? Also higher energies cannot be overtaken by lower energies that easily. Like oil and water don't mix. Sometimes it is like wind and water or even more different. >This has been going on for the past 8 or so years wew >This thread was created a week ago.

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Yes and fringe has other anons that have past or not time bound "avatars" influencing their lives. Fringe has quite the history. This is why this is the intrusive thoughts thread. We discover the influences that make us post the worst and dumbest things. By some posters I meant >>744 this guy for example. >I used, and still use, that as a coping mechanism. That is bad. You will have to face yourself. You have to realize the inner truth of your avatar or you realize it's "not (You)" at all but a mere shadow a malformed version of you that you have to fix by yourself. You sorta become the guide the savior of your warped doomed self. You go through the light and darkness together to realize who you truly are. >>780 Also this is a perfect advice. Maybe even better than mine.

>>779 Also one more thing. The Whitewolf channeled lore/mechanics are sometimes an "actual place" in the astral and it's possible to connect to them. Years ago I read about some wikipage about some afterlife hell dimension where souls suffer and they can be turned into artifacts which is horrible but after that they stop suffering and as I read about it out of boredom I connected to an entity. I asked him what he wants then he replied to me that I was the one connecting to him... so I said sorry and ended the psychic missdial. So yes the whitewolf writers are channeling things from an "avatar" a "genius" of sorts. From a place that exists. Like Lovecraft's Eldritch abominations and the legends of old talk about actual places. This is why the setting is so rich. It's not entirely "made up". So what I am saying you might be entangled by an otherworldly influence like that too. You will have to figure out if it's "truly you" or just a mere influence. This is why we have to let go of the shackles of the false ego and find the guidance of our actual higher self.

>>796 >This is how I do my magic Also I'll be using mage the ascension terminology, because that's the one I know. I think I awoke I a bath tub. I was masturbating and I didn't want to cum. I noticed before that I flex my thighs when I cum and this time I didn’t and because my brain is my brain therefore I can control the sensations I experience. Then I learned how to feel the emotions that other people feel by examining subtle cues in their speech patterns. I also was able to extend this ability to poetry that I read. And I also learned how to spot lies by examining the tone of the person I was listening to. Fast forward years, I don’t know how much exactly because it was hard to keep track of time in that state, somehow I had thought myself how to think faster, not to be smarter but just to think a little bit faster, this effect was active at all the time and I lived like that, I though myself how to feel sensations more. And while is was riding my bike exploring town. This isn’t really magic but the game classifies these effects as magic After I learned about mage and that it’s a hard game to learn I went to the wiki to learn about it. I was reading about the spheres, I was trying to understand what each sphere does and how it fits into the game’s magic system. To do so I tried breaking down different real world phenomena and powers form other franchises. I was reading about the sphere of entropy and how its used to tell if someone is telling a lie or not. This was odd because the mind sphere exists, then I looked at what effects the mind sphere can do and I found out that what I have been doing is mind and entropy magic. This happened over the course of 1-2 years maybe and it wasn’t just the white wolf wiki but reddit posts and forum discussions. At first I thought this was retared and that it was a bit dumb for the authors to include mundane things that people can do as magic. Then I opened up to the idea that I might be a mage and I began to reflect on my life ( what spheres do I have, what is my arete rating, what faction would I belong to etc) eventually I realized that if I have entropy 1 then I can also manipulate dice rolls and I tried to manipulate dice rolls. I did it by simply manifesting my will for the dice to roll high or low, now I do it by “pulling” the value of the dice towards oblivion or towards ascension, dice and ascend but for some reason that’s how I do it.I tried doing this with both virtual and real dice. This isn’t really magic because it could as well be just good luck or me picking out favorable results. I wanted to create magic items, to have permanent magic effects up. To do this I studied the sphere of prime and the flow of primal energy and I enchanted some rings with mind an entropy effects like to help me concentrate ,hide me in a crowd, to make me luckier. Did this by “putting” primal energy into the rings while I put the effect on it. You can’t really measure luck or blending into crowds, and I had no way to prove that they worked. At some point I learned correspondence. This sphere was confusing because the name wasn’t intuitive, so I split it in to topography and connections. I focused on the connections part and I tried to sense the connections between people or objects anything really. I have used this to look for a coin. So there was this post on reddit that said something like this. To make shure you understand how your mage’s paradigm works answer this: Your mage is thirsty and there is a vending machine nearby, but he/she doesn’t have any money. To answer this problem I learned correspondence and matter. I closed my eyes and entered a calm state and I visualized a coin then scanned the area for a coin like that. Then I saw an arrow pointing me left when I had my eyes closed. I followed it, truing when it turned ect and I found the coin. To prove to myself that magic was real I always wanted to create fire in my hands out of noting. I searched an /x / archive for “how to shoot fire from your hands”, came up with some results. And it one of the threads an anon suggested to imagine the flame in your hand. I couldn't but after a while I managed to do the following. Create a small string of purple energy between my thumb and pointer finger, I can do it with both hands. When the strings rub together they don’t do anything but they can pull on each-other. I stumbled on this while I was trying to imagine fire between my fingers. I saw a small ball of purple light. Then I just imagined it as a string anchored on my two fingers.

>Terminology Mages in mtas are will workers. Mages use will focused though a personal paradigm and foci to alter reality. Foci are tools that help a mage focus they will. Some examples are: a computer, drawing geometric patterns on the floor, imagining fractal patterns etc. Awakening. An awaking happens when a mage realizes that belief changes reality. Avatars are a sort of spirit that guides the mage to ascension or descension in the case of nephandi. Avatars take mages on seekings, a seeking is trial/quest where an avatar tries to further enlighten the mage. Avatars can manifest in different ways. For example one avatar might guide their mage by highlighting parts of conversations overheard by the mage, then the mage might interpret the different bits of conversions to for an idea that produces a eureka like moment. At that moment the mage gains a better understanding of the world, and becomes more enlightened as a result. When a mage dies his avatar departs, that avatar then either reattaches itself to a newly born person or someone who just awoke. Ascension. I don't exact know what it is but I think it's like creating the philosopher's stone for alchemists. I think I feel it though. Descension. The opposite of ascension don't remember how or if it's described in lore I'll just use my past experiences. I think it's like this. A fundamental part of desencsion is breaking things down, and by that I don't mean taking concepts and ideas apart to find the truth. It's more of a feeling, a weird sensation. I don't know, exactly, how to put it into words but I'll try. It's part corruption and part destruction. The most prominent aspect of this was my omniciadal urge. The urge to destroy the world and every thing in it, every atom thought and idea. To drag it it all to oblivion where it can unexist, for the simple fact that it dared to exist. But there wasn't any real motive behind it. No real world cause,no nothing, the world hadn't wronged me enough to deserve this fate. I was: part hatred, part pain, part delight, part sadism, part peace (for if there is no more world then there wont be any more pain), part corruption of me and others, part self-destruction and willing damnation. The main reason why I didn’t wind up some serial rapist mass-murderer psycho was because I turned all of this onto myself. by corrupting myself I corrupt the word. For a concrete example you can look at the guy from Hatred, that game bout being a mass-murderer. My name is not important. What is important is what I'm going to do. I just fucking hate this world. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred. And I always wanted to die . This is the time of death and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill. And it's time for me to die. Hatred’Guy’s speech but I removed the parts that didn’t apply to me and replaced “vengeance” with “death”. At any rate if guns were easy to obtain where I am from I would have probably shot myself or went on a murder spree. Nephandi. The nephandi are mages that went through a caul. A caul is a chamber that inverts the avatar of a mage. Most avatars guide mages to ascension, some avatars are indifferent or might even have their own agendas, but the avatars of the nephandi guide them to desecnsion. To become a nephandus is to gleefully and willingly accept the worst possible version of yourself, this happens inside a caul. A caul is a chamber that converts normal nephandi. I don't know how to propperly articulate how messed up these guys are. Widderslainte: In mtas lore a widderslainte is a mage whose avatar belonged to a nephandus in a past life. Acording to the lore almost all of these people succumb to their darker urges, and join the nephandi.

>>804 Why bother learning an rpg system if you arent going to play the game. You are so weird. We could have made an rpg group 2 years ago when we first talked on >>>/tg/ You are frustrating.

>>806 I don't really know why, other than I wanted to learn a hard to learn rpg. Also I think you are mixing me up with another anon.

>>807 Man I hope not, cause then there'd be two guys who learned the mechanics of an rpg and thought that meant they could do real magic. Maybe it's the core book, I mean it is rather esoteric. Balls. Are you really a different guy? Man what are the fucking odds

>>808 >There's two of us, yes. Anyway this is what I did to myself maybe you can use it a chronicle one day. I'll probably upload a more polished version on the rotes database. This is what I did to myself, this is what I wrote in my note book after I reinvered my avatar. I feel free , I might have done it I might have reinverted my avatar at least for a short time. Here is part of how I did it . I envisioned ascension and descension as a tunnel or shaft. My avatar how it was a sun covered in black goo. My constructed fake avatar as a fake but normal sun (I made it to point me towards ascension) Both were put together. I put thrusters on my avatar that was rapidly falling towards malfeas to stop it. Then with will and pain quite great I tuned my avatar towards ascension. It is still corrupted, I am still tainted but I think it doesn't point me towards hell anymore. I will be paranoid but at last the omnicidal urges are gone. I feel like a burden was lifted ( when I did the reinversion I thought of the moments when U was free from the avatar before I awoke, I thought of the few memories I had what I didn’t feel the avatar’s pull. Those proved to me that my current existence was flawed. Thus I had proof I needed to push my avatar and reinvert it. It was like turning a big weight it’s hard to lift at first but on the way down it helps its self fall. I took some attempts to get this success. Also I think I can use the qlippothic spheres still and can enter that state of mind that my avatar put me in to descend better, It’s good that I have the freedom to use them but I won’t since they cause pain in my soul just to think about them. If you are a normal mage reading this, don’t have much mercy for my kind. We are monsters plain and simple, I know this because I felt the urges our kind do. It lasted for one hour but the omnicidal urges are back. The rest was good ,I will be relying on this but it’s good to know that it works. Also a remix of “Propaganda” from jojos was playing in the back of my mind when the flip happened. Aditional stuff: When I visualized my avatar and the fake avatar, the fake avatar was on top ( towards ascension) and the real one was on the bottom, they were close together connected but not touching. When I tuned my avatar it felt like I was turning a big wheel like thing, using an axle placed in the center but the axle almost broke. After that day I went to some monasteries, I had holy oil rubbed on my head I obtained holy water and antidoron I felt the urges come back. The best way to combat them is to ignore them and to not pay them any mind and to avoid anything that might trigger them. Also I put two doors inside the shaft. First one bellow the thrusters and the second one above my fake avatar, that was kind of fading and disappearing from thought. Then I opened the top door and closed it back up. I also had a priest bless the house and he left some holy oil and water. I draw 3 crosses on my head and one on my sternum, I draw additional crosses wherever I feel pain, the kind of pain I felt while I was in that state of mind.

>>809 Very least I can use it for flavor, the current group is playing Ironclaw but I'm getting tired of furry shit. Mage might be fun.

>>808 >My avatar how it was a sun covered in black goo You know I think I work with this energy a lot. I remember back a few years ago I managed to have a breakthrough and condense it to a very pure thoughtform, I called it the 'black almond' because it had an oblong shape and smelled like cyanide. As I invoked it into myself I felt a sudden and powerful urge to commit a spree killing, I've never felt that urge before (serial killing urge maybe) but the sort of hopelessness this inspired just resonated strongly with that act. I cast it out of myself and into the environment to see what it would do and it gave my neighbor a stroke the next day. I began regularly invoking this negative energy years ago because I liked its power, and I figured out that if you 'flip the polarities' so that it draws energy from the environment instead of you it doesn't cause much harm in the short term to your body. But what I didn't account for was that you have to actually put that energy into action to make it permanent, which I wasn't willing to do, so I ended up getting sloppy and lazy and letting it act on myself as I continued to invoke it which ended up taking me very very close to shooting myself. As a way to 'become one with the void'. In an esoteric, not depressive sense. Anyway a week or so ago I happened to hear an account of how a clairvoyant saw 'demons' as a black cloud parasite attached to people (exactly how the outer aura of the Black Almond appears to me), and it somehow woke me up to the fact that I was essentially drinking cyanide every day. So now I'm done drinking that stuff, it's a good weapon but drinking it for benefit is no good. At least I have good tolerance to negative energies now. So instead I now need to learn to work with this other energy I've encountered, a sort of pure white mana. It seem to represent 'truth' or 'value' or 'beauty'. If I condense it to an object it usually becomes some sort of gem or diamond, and every spirit I've gave some to has been extremely happy to receive anything associated with this energy as a gift or payment. I might actually go back and review my Mage sourcebook pdfs for ideas on how to use it better. That's why I like well thought out fictional magic systems, they usually have a lot of good ideas on thoughtform and energy functionality.

I think I'm at a point where I need to become "religious" in some way, to support me in being more grounded and disciplined. Books like IIH seem to mention the use of religion often. So for now I'm going to just larp it until a deeper, more specific connection is made, or I don't need it any more.

>>984 >So for now I'm going to just larp it Life is a giant ERP. We all wear masks we all pretend to be someone and forget who we are because we got too used to the role we or others boxed us in. First lessons are about learning to either not care about your mask overcome it or learn to change it at will. This is what "breaching the veil" means in some regards. Learning to see the script the stage and the audience and understanding the greater role we are in. >I need to become "religious" in some way >to support me in being more grounded and disciplined Yes those are important and that is the main perk of having a "tradition" or a working magical system that you can rely on but the most important thing religion should grant you is faith zeal and conviction and a mindset that makes you focus on the nature of God instead of the fleeting earthly desires. It's not very simple and I too had a love hate relationship with religion because it's a necessary thing to accept in your childhood then as you become an edgy teenager you start to see how limiting and mundane it is then as you move forward you might notice the higher energies and benevolent entity forces that lurk within. There is a reason why religion manages to survive and stay resilient. Truth survives while falsehoods decay rot and crumble. The question is always if you are able to see the glimpse of truth in the sea of decay. Not easy I know.

My wizard friend (the one who I mentioned was having hand issues in the Question Thread) has been unreachable for the past several weeks. On the bright side, he did say that the advice /fringe/ gave helped his hands recover, so thanks again for that. anyway that's enough of my sadposting on here, enjoy this unrelated pic

I no longer wish to live in this shithole of a prison planet. Let me end it all so I can go back to the true reality.

>>1131 >(the one who I mentioned was having hand issues in the Question Thread) I wonder what he was doing originally. He might be haunted by other entities too he accidentally summoned but maybe he is just simply busy. Found this vid just now so I feel I have to post it. >advice /fringe/ gave helped his hands recover Nice. >enjoy this unrelated pic Haha. Classic women. >how to make man love you >bake cake for him why is it so hard to comprehend by some women If you think slutwitch is looking weirdly at granmawitch because of the menstrual blood then you don't understand women. She looks weird because she has to do something mundane like baking a cake and not like some dumb ass spell then act like a bipolar pixie around a man she "loves" so much. Hahahaha. Women. >>1151 >so I can go back to the true reality If you have a link towards your own true reality then widen the connection ask for guidance towards it then make the necessary steps so you can return. If not then understand your craving towards it and try to find glimpses towards your truth. If your reality is too far away it will take quite the work and dedication to get there. There are too many realities around and a misstep might land you in an another false reality.

>>1151 Git gud

>>1151 the suffering will continue until morale improves

Wondering if maybe I should start attempting to map out my synesthesia. It's been an integral part of my perception for as long as I can remember. In preschool, I used to watch for adults picking their children up and get a feel for their energy, and associate them with letters or colors. It's usually described in mundane terms as a sort of crossing between senses (like smelling colors), but for me it's more like sense objects and concepts have abstract yet extremely palpable qualities that exist beyond the realm of 'the senses', but which can be recognizably perceived through any of the 5 senses. (I rewrote this sentence several times but it probably still doesn't make any sense) Anyway I was thinking at first that I could just start writing them down on paper but then I had an even better idea of creating some kind of database with entries (The letter A, the color red, Trump, bananas, w/e) which could be assigned tags of whatever things they share synesthesia-based qualities with, so I could easily navigate and map out the broader connections between all these things. Just got to find a good software with this basic functionality.

I think I'm close to being able to reliably astral project at will. Last night I was unknowingly ghostwalking around the house and noticed a random TV or large monitor on the floor, that looked like it belonged to a Mac computer (this object doesn't actually exist). Since this triggered semi-lucidity I went to lean on the kitchen counter and fully recollected myself. Don't remember much of what I did during the rest of this segment but my inability to conjure or emit any sort of light source was a real problem, because it's spooky, annoying, and hard to see. After that I woke up for a piss and water break then returned to sleep, determined to AP again. This time I realized I was looking around the room without my eyes, but I was still in bed, and aware of my body to some extent. After centering myself I decided to look at a mysterious rectangular object on the wall (I'm still not sure if it was a ghost object like the monitor, or something real I didn't recognize) When I approached this object, the sensation was unlike any AP experience I can recall. I was still connected to my body, yet my POV and some of my energy stretched to the object on the wall. Unfortunately I felt like I was having trouble breathing, and after some deliberation decided it was best to wake up since there might be something wrong with whatever process normally keeps me alive during AP. Took another break and went back into it. This time I was centered in a nice ghost body like before, and seemed to recognize it right away. That day I'd been thinking about how nice it would be to explore the town through AP, safe from all the crackheads. So I decided to try going out the front door for a "walk." The door opened no problem (in the past I've had difficulty opening doors and gotten stuck) and the outside seemed pretty normal, except when I stepped out I teleported to this weird harbor with docks and ships everywhere, which was disappointing.

https://youtu.be/xUA2EzzWAC4?si=o_Du319dUt6ArK5w&t=34 This is surprisingly helpful.

I'm not sure if this is just irrational paranoia but I'm starting to think a lot of the people I'm interacting with online are fake. I've been noticing a lot of weird things that have been coming to a head lately. Posters acting in weird ways, seemingly coordinated. I think it's samefagging but then something pops up that disproves that. And lately, with work. I'm starting to get suspicious because a lot of the clients I'm working with have weird names, taken from characters from comic books or names that sound very blatantly made up. So I'm looking up their social media accounts, and they look legit on first glance but then I notice that the profile images look AI generated and there's weird typos in the bio that would indicate either an ESL wrote them or they were algorithmically generated. But then I look deeper into some of them, and find information that contradicts this, one guy posting a video of himself talking on facebook. But he's talking weird, like he's a professional preacher instead of a low-level businessman. And then I notice other details, like he has a greenscreen behind him. Similar things with others. And none of these people are on Whitepages. It's all just very weird, there's something amiss and I can't put my finger on it.

>>1274 Great example of how the world has ended and only NPC emulations remain. First they cut down on the search results on Google to save processor power, replaced artists with AI slop, mass shooting and terror victims have been actors since long, now they've cut down on the NPCs themselves. And the algorithm is bad.

>>1274 I've been having this feeling with IRL people. Like they've been replaced inside or something. I've seen many posts lile yours, too. I think it began in 2020. Maybe we are dead.

Yesterday I resolved to finally get serious about developing reliable lucid dreaming and WILD techniques and today I see a lot of posts here by someone else also doing that. Crazy.

I cannot for the life of me find the original post but I swear someone here said something about how the best way to get rid of blacks is to transmit the word nigger into people's minds. So today at the store I saw a black out shopping, so I decided to drive him away. I began psychically screaming "NIGGER! NIGGER! NIGGER!" over and over across the store as loud as I could. Not actually screaming, beaming it into everyone's minds. And then the most amazing thing happened. I looked over at the nigger, but he was no longer a nigger. He was a tanned white man. I had exorcised the nigger-spirit from him, and it had fled in response to my weaponized magickal racism. The man had become white. It was truly a miracle.

>>1557 This is the /fringe/est post ever.

I made a new banner xD

>>1618 Did you manage to meet all the archetypes described there? Can't say I didn't encounter forces that can be described in similar ways but I am not sure if that picture fully encompasses the mystery of these things. But it's not the worst infographic I have seen describing these things so far. At least it reminds people about the ways polarity and gender can manifest. >>1621 Fringe Cringe Gringe Tringe S(y)ringe These words come to mind while I try to change a single letter. Fridge doesn't roll off the tongue that well. Not to mention it's not even a real world but a way lazy people can say Refrigerator. Calling it a Frigidaire in the past was normal in my country but no one says it that way nowadays. I am not sensing the memetic potential of this joke. >>1557 Wish this post could be turned into a banner tho.

>>1622 Shucks I forgot my flag and wanted to delete the post so I can remake it with a flag but then I noticed I got dubs. Now deleting it would be a sacrilege. Today is really not my day.

>>1622 Lets keep it in style then.

>>759 I'm thinking about this post again because I had yet another breakthrough just by analyzing a fictional magic system. It's amazing how many epiphanies doing this sort of thing has given me. Usually through some sort of inconsequential piece of fluff text that describes how some sort of power works. Then I realize, oh, that makes sense. I can use the described mechanism to move energy around for similar effects. Stories are more important than most people think. They have to 'fit together' and 'obey natural laws' in the correct way not just to be meaningful but to even be coherent.

>>1630 That doesn't even include enough of the post.

>>1634 It won't be possible to read the text if you include all of it, it'll be too small and too long for a banner.

>>1635 >It won't be possible to read the text if you include all of it True but >I had exorcised the nigger-spirit from him, and it had fled in response to my weaponized magickal racism This is where I lost my sides >truly a miracle was just cherry on top But not half bad banner overall. >>1631 >Stories are more important than most people think They are extremely important and wanted to make an effort post about how legends served as initiation mechanisms for ages and how magic insights will come through into the psyche many times via fantasy settings and tropes because that is the closest thing the mind can use as a "reference" at the start. Not to mention when you get "sucked into a setting" you consider what is happening there "real" and for most things to work you have to accept it as real and this is where you start to think like a "chuuni". It's important to not make a "delusion system" for your mind but find the aspects with "true meaning" and let them go once you don't need them anymore. And once your mind is beyond the need of these references because you finally managed to get rid of the shackles of your mundane mind when not the egregoric illusions nor the "acceptable rationalizations" of others nor learned or indoctrinated "false experiences/knowledge" nor false assumptions that you integrated via propaganda be it intentional or unintentional will guide you then you reach the glimpses of the true mind and ways to get rid of all the shackles of the previous one... But as I wanted to write that I realized I have many shackles that I need to get rid of especially nowadays because I can finally see and interact with them and I don't have the mental clarity for that effortpost that I wanted to make. Just realized how i can eject "elemental impurities" and thought routines that might be considered intrusive thoughts but in actuality they were "useful" in my mundane life while dealing with mundanes so I kept them as long as possible and the worst part? These elemental impurities kept "learned skills" within my body. So now things that I could do for years on autopilot requires a little concentration so I can make it "click" again but I cannot use my old concentration methods to do it. I never realized just how much pressure I kept within my body and upon parts of my spine with this internalized hatred at will so I can use it to instant switch into "zones". Truth is I realized long ago that I have other emotions that pull me into zones and anger was the worst type but the most ever present in my life. Anger tenses the body and keeps you alert. Was a good insta"click" mechanism but extremely not sustainable and I even know it back then. Then there was the "carefree happiness" which was quite rare to get hold because it had to be genuine and not a "forced happiness". The most potent was a sort of "blankness" which resulted into a full focus but the problem is that I forgot everything. Not just myself and my environment but it doesn't even make "memories" or "experiences" because I get pulled into the perfect zone so well I don't even know who "think" about who am I anymore because the only important thing is the what am I doing right now and nothing else matters. Learning to shift into the "observer mind" and let the "problem solving mind" do it's thing and smooth out the mental currents in the process is more nuanced than I thought... It forgets to use my "structured thinking" and while my brain always has a "what to do next" system I just don't know where am I anymore. It makes the whole life into a meaningless dream and I realized I need to figure out ways to shift these things. The worst part is when I realized that I can "manually" make my body to "shock itself" so I get alert and awake at morning instead of "mentally forcing myself to wake up". It was really like a shock going through my entire body for a single moment. Almost scary. More efficient than to get the most raging boners to get out of bed but I know I still have to finetune it. Not to mention I learned about the "Magician's karma". The reason why most religions forbid "sorcery". The obv is that you fuck with demons and demons are bad. Then the "evil" or elemental currents can "taint" your mind and soul. I thought I have a "Magic circuit". It was some weird wiring in my hand and in my whole body that let me channel energies. When I did channeling with entities the side of my neck started to hurt when my focus was not at the right place after an extended amount of time. Then different places of my body on that meridian pathway started to hurt too... It turned out it was not the "price" of magic but a "waste" that formed itself into an "energetic conductor" and it short circuited parts of my body. Now I am finally figuring out how I can slowly "melt" and "eject it" and let my body regain a sort of "spirit materia" instead of this I don't even know what anymore. Felt like the element of iron but more silver mercury like but I am not sure if I should even call it that. Now that I can eject it more and more wirings show themselves in my body. Veils within veils I swear. Yeah this is why I don't effort post. My mind is just all over the place especially because this is a "process" which means that my mind is "figuring this out" and "shutting it off" would be a mistake. My vitals are at their highest tho. The heat makes my emotions weirdly irritated tho. Never happened before. I am not exactly "bothered by the heat" but bothered by other people more. Hell is other people as they say... never truly managed to realize just how large of a hell they created within me... The hurdles of stupidity and ignorance we put ourselves and others through can be laughable sometimes.

Someone on /x/ posted this.

>>1625 >>1630 Added.

>>1630 I hate fake hitlers. They don't capture the character at all. Actual Adolph actually had a gentler aura that the actor playing him in whatever that is.

>>1654 It's from a tv series from 2 or so years ago where Hitler comes back in modern times and starts trying to become popular on social media while raging over modern degeneracy.

>>1650 So it was written

>>1635 It'd fit if you did a bit of editing.

>>1678 Fine I'll do it myself.

>>1683 This is fairly close to the best I could do. All I know is MSpaint, so I guess someone else can stick /fringe/ in the corner.

I realized this much memed vid is perfectly on topic here. It's about both niggers and magic.

>>1721 This just made me understand how black people never managed to leave their continent on their own until someone shipped or bused them into other countries while every other race decided to conquer the edges of the known world once a population boom happened or the shaman saw some weird beast in the distance and told everyone they have to follow it and they did because the shaman always knew what he was talking about. Also that fucking beep I swear how can these niggers live like that.

>>1721 It feels like the only reason this reaction video exists is to give normalfags "permission" to laugh at the original vaguely "problematic" joke by having a mulatto laugh at it first. It feels nasty. Like humor for the oversocialised.

>>1725 >give normalfags "permission" to laugh I don't care anymore tbh. We need to stop this "Being offended by everything cult mentality" Niggers and leftist managed to make their entire personality about being offended. That needs to stop. We are in an age where watching a gore video about an african being beheaded or even a porn video with raceplay where a black person is being raped is more "acceptable" than saying the fucking N word. If we reach a point where niggers can be only "sheltered from criticism" instead of give them ways to self reflect they will just devolve into an extremely animalistic state and those extremely rare "somewhat smart niggers" will be dragged down to their level with the extremely feral behavior of their brethren. Like how "You are not a real rapper/gangsta until you served in prison" mentality. Thx to this crime enabling mentality to gain "streetcred" they will have no way to break out of that way of life. When a nigger acts like a nigger they need to be called out and not do a fucking oppression Olympics event. It's still ridiculous how burning down cities was "completely normal" until BLM told the world that Palestinians are also oppressed by colonialism and were willing to protest with antivaxxers. I would leave this issue alone if it was only in the USA but they are hellbent of importing this culture into the whole world and it's getting ridiculous. People that were always liberal or at least left leaning for decades are also developing their racism on their own because the audacity of these people. Not to mention even Africans hate the USA niggers because all they do is whine how oppressed they are leech benefits constantly in a first world country then pretend what a tough gangsta they are when they live on easy mode compared to actual Africans. Not to mention this blackwashing culture is getting ridiculous. Last time Tunisians got mad on government level for portraying Hannibal with Denzel Washington. I wish for the day when Hitler will be portrayed with a black person in a "historically accurate movie"... and the French will be portrayed with muslims... eastern europeans with Indians but the jews will stay jews to not offend the executive producers lol. It's really ridiculous that only TikTok managed to break this barrier of "racism cannot ever be funny no matter how true is" on the normalfag level. It's ridiculous that you need the backing of an authoritative regime to have a chance to break the brainwashing hold of the mainstream media. Still unwilling to install Tiktok. The minor benefits of that brainrot generator is still not enough to outweight every curse it permeates into the mind of zoomers and other generations that are hooked on it.

>>1725 >original vaguely "problematic" joke https://caroline-center.org/ccbreakroomdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/the-sound-of-urban-poverty/index.html The origin is this blog from a center for helping poor women in Baltimore. If people somehow interpret this as "problematic" they really need to go through the "exposure therapy" of it being mentioned, holy fuck.

>>1731 >Hitler will be portrayed with a black person in a "historically accurate movie"... Nvm I forgot about the Gypsy Hitler. JudeoAnglos were at it since the start. >>1735 I never understood how Niggers didn't just go follow the noise and break those devices. Is it because it was like just an another noise in those "urban poverty" areas where everyone was constantly yelling listenin to rap on the boombox and gunshots are so frequent as birds chirping in the countryside? Probably that is the answer. Oh and on the sound of one hand clapping. If I answer this by slapping a Zen master in the face do I get accepted as a wise person or get the living shit beaten out of me? Need to know before visiting a Zen temple.

I still think we should make more of this /fringe/ than just random postings, because though there is some activity now, it feels like 8/pol/ vs 4/pol/ back when old 8ch was alive, getting to the 8 version felt like opening a door to some closed off room filled with fat farting guys masturbating to the smell of their own sweaty underwear, and no one is smoking so there is nothing concealing this state of affairs. I hadn't looked much at the other boards on this site because diaper fetish isn't my thing and /v/ always had a smell of young teen boy playing nintendo weee or whatever new consoles with only 3D games they play, and I just feel like anything after the PsX sucks, including the N64, how did they think resolution 240 * 360 is ok, it's literally the same as the NES? Fucking hell. But anyway, all the boards on here have that feel to some smaller or greater degree and it's just not interesting enough to make people seek this out, unless /fringe/ stands out like it did before, or we manage to improve the egregore by being here. Like, I looked at /delicious/ thinking "cake" meant the same as on /a/ but it's the opposite! What the... a "christmas cake" is a woman who is 26 but still attractive enough to care about, referencing how actual christmas cakes in Japan are very expensive for a cake, and sold for full prize up until the 25th of December. On the 26th they're too old but can sell for half price, after that no one wants them. But here they made "cake" to mean "western loli", and the board suffers from the same tendencies as all art online today, with added lolicon syndrome where it's 90% toddlers being penetrated by huge penises and not at all anything cute like you'd expect. The best art on the entire page is the pedobear in the bottom right corner. And let's not start talking about the blatant double thinking in that addition when they pretend it isn't pedophilia and everyone is actually 18. But just to make that clear I'm complaining about the bad art and the weird use of "cake", not the theme itself. Although in my opinion there are too many girl panties drawn to look almost like diapers and that's agains narrowing in on just disgusting territory. So my point here is that this site, 8ch.moe isn't "normie repellant", it's just lacking energy or drive, it's the same unfresh air every day. Smiley's drama had the benefit of bringing real life energy into old Fringe at least.

>>1738 >Smiley's drama had the benefit of bringing real life energy into old Fringe at least. Soooooo we should get back to the good ol wizards freak out during conversations energies start creating psychic anomalies between the posts until someone goes full paranoid schizo and ends up in the ward or in the news too? >it's just lacking energy or drive Oh definitely. I heard rumors how some people hate 8moe because it's supposedly gives out the IPs to the gov or something while others call people who say that glowies because they just don't want an another proper 8chan replacement appear. Supposedly there was the usual drama about hebefags being allowed then banned from 8chan like on the previous but I am not following these things to be able to give a proper QRD about it. This 8chan didn't make it's comeback yet. >it's the same unfresh air every day Yeah those fetish boards surprise me too and how 20 autists can care about their dumb ass fetish this much but what can I say... It's quite normal in these places. Not to mention our latinx friends seem like this place. Mi habla no espanol tho or however they say it. Still not sure how to activate the productive chaos aspect of fringe yet... without unforeseen consequences

>>1739 > the usual drama about hebefags being allowed then banned from 8chan like on the previous but I am not following these things to be able to give a proper QRD about it It's the same as what's in the fringe anon pics here: >>277 (275) TL:DR aside from his version is that the group he thinks are some mega hacker criminals used to make threads on kohlchan and were probably involved in the now ancient Democratic National Committee (Japanese modelling studio with Ukrainian models ) postings as well as the professional quality "german loli" visual novel made some 12 years ago. If I got that right, one of them were actually such a person, but it may not be true, could have been a joke in that circle, but they kept saying a named anon had killed himself for being exposed as the owner of the large european boy lover site which was taken down by interpol a year ago. The actual board on here was for posting girls from instagram though, so perfectly legal social media repostings, but this was still too much for, and is apparently too much for most web hosts also for some reason. It's ok when Zuckerberg hosts them, and when Xi has them on tiktok. So this is mostly hyper-puritan panic at play. They did host some sites which I heard rumours of but didn't want to research because of said rumours, like "lolifox" and a site which was more known called Cutie Garden (I looked this one up, it would appear as a suggestion by google search) and it was just same low energy as I complained about here, but just, well real life girls with diapers and old trash family photos of girls playing from sometime in the 00s, just low quality and not interesting for anyone. The group has since moved to the mobile app session after hosting catchan for a while, the owner of that board is russian and works literally for the government where he does nothing all day so he instead saves girl pics from instagram.

>>1740 >Democratic National Committee fuck, I see they are still not like here, global word filter lol

>>1740 >the professional quality "german loli" visual nove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzSd3vw8B_8

>>1817 I should make a /Flange/ banner

>>1817 I love Rumia.

Yesterday I noticed that, more than usual, an entity would be messing with me during my dreams. I can scare them away when I notice them, but I've been moving into dream-spells, so this is an issue. I decided to set up heavy wards around my living space. This was done by setting up 'sentinels' and 'living mines' to destroy any hostile influence that enters the space. Well immediately after doing this, my landlord emails me and says they're having guys do work on the roof tomorrow. And now of course, a swarm of mexicans have descended upon my building. But I do not hear them doing work on the roof, instead they are hammering and scraping directly on my walls. Even outside my door, there is an incessant whirring and scraping. I have done some carpentry before, I know this is not normal. These mexicans were hired to break through my wards. I can feel them pushing and testing for weak points. This means that the infiltration of hostiles into my living space must have surpassed what I initially estimated to be just a few stray entities. I will need to investigate this more.

>>1978 Maybe try putting some wards not in the walls but on the ground in your room as a fountain spraying waters of protection around the room. The mexicans can only attack wards in the walls with a mundane disguise, if they started going into your apartment they wouldn't be able to come up with an excuse and you could just tell them to leave. Perhaps you can have a ward as a bubble surrounding your bed. That way you could at least sleep without your dreams being invaded.

>>2006 I did that as well, the ones on the walls were just the first line of defense. It seems like they've given up, in any case. Or the spirits possessing them were all annihilated by my mines.

>>2007 Now that the Mexicans have stopped did you replant your wards in the walls?

>>2025 I'm keeping them charged and activated, yes.

I caught a fish today.

I miss this meme so much

For years I've been thinking that ever since the time a bit after Trump became president, the nature of memes fundamentally changed from something shared collectively among human beings, to a sort of feedback loop between the human collective and AI. The latter, by means of purposeful manipulation trivializes and oversimplifies human experience in order to make it more comprehensible to itself. This is why everything started to become so "soulless" around that time. Now this shit exists.

I just made a self-comment on this before, how when trying to find a random image online to illustrate a feeling, it is very difficult. The memes, no matter how bad artistically in a superficial aspect, are very good at nailing down a certain concept or expression. Try to match these intentionally, it's not possible unless they are filtered through the imageboard culture where the person channelled the concept and put it in a paint-file.

>>2146 Even creating a new version of an existing meme isn't easy, and may only be done by a small group of hivemind channellers.

>become a living meme really became a meme in reality here.

Imhotep Imhotep Imhotep

I keep forgetting to cultivate desire. Actually really wanting something is extremely helpful towards getting material results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1agQE9Hr08 The Chris-Chan arrest bodycam footage has been released. I truly believe that this man is a powerful wizard. Even if his spirit is degenerated. There's also the fact that the 2023 Nashville shooting where a tranny shot up a Christian school happened on the exact same day that Chris Chan was released from prison. And one of the most well-known pictures of the tranny is her in a striped Chris Chan style shirt. I believe that this individual was one of Chris Chan's spirit servitors, and the shooting was a manifestation of the attack it performed to break Chris out of prison. The entire tranny social disease seems to be inextricably linked to Chris Chan in some way. It may be possible that every single tranny is in fact one of Chris's vassals, whether they know it consciously or not. He is the spiritual nucleus of this pattern; it all revolves around him.

>>2317 >The entire tranny social disease seems to be inextricably linked to Chris Chan in some way. It may be possible that every single tranny is in fact one of Chris's vassals, whether they know it consciously or not. He is the spiritual nucleus of this pattern; it all revolves around him.

>>2317 He definitely is a powerful wizard. The problem is that he is quite confused. But his spirit and soul are powerful.

>>2317 >>2318 >>2414 I wonder when exactly is the cutoff point where the mass shooter egregore transitioned pardon my hilarious pun from Dylan & Eric's 'badass' persona to autistic cartoon-obsessed freak. Randy Stair is the first example of the latter that I can remember.

>>2424 The only thing I recognize here is the chick from Danny Phantom. I cannot even comprehend which kind of meme or drama rabbit hole I should even start swimming through to know what is even the context there. I don't even know who tf is the dog even. I truly suffer from outofloopitis.

>>2429 Martha is the autism dog from a 1990s children's book series. About a year ago, some instantly forgotten stormfag grocery store shooter set up a GoPro to livestream the event, then turned on his phone which amusingly displayed porn of Martha. Randy Stair also shot up a grocery store in 2017 and did it wearing women's clothing. His goal was to become a recolored OC of Ember from Danny Phantom, and join a group called 'Ember's Ghost Squad' composed entirely of several recolored OC's of Ember, headed by Ember herself. We had a thread about him on /fringe/ when it happened iirc

>>2430 I knew I was seeing a resurgence of Ember some years ago but forgot where or why >We had a thread about him on /fringe/ when it happened iirc Now I remember. It didn't really look magic enough but the usual /drama/ with minimal meaning so I ignored it. At first glance I thought it's about summoning some Amber looking astral waifu for sex or someone explaining how he got her as a waifu or something. Didn't expect it to be this mundane and retarded. Was wondering back then who does even care about Ember in today's age anymore but didn't bother to open the thread I was always bad keeping up with drama stuff if it was not spammed constantly across threads. But if we talk about music and ghosts already then guess I can mention that nowadays even I have my personal "astral muse" who is like a rockerchick but she is like a short haired blonde black metal fan and not like Ember. She is able to show the "sound of my soul". It's either "old people music" a "serene dance of the air" or "throwing pianos at whoever made me angry"... Not really the majestic hymn nor the boss music I am looking for tbh. Funny thing for really good acoustics you have to hear the sound of nothing or emptiness first then actualize your "true style" into existence. You know when even colors are making sounds and other weirdness.

>>2145 Perhaps invoking kek to make trump win was a faustian bargain nobody could afford.

OH. Okay. So Jews hate Muslims because the Muslims put a big mosque called the Dome of the Rock on the place where the Jewish messiah is supposed to put a temple so they can start the apocalypse. This is probably the entire reason why Israel was created. It might even be the reason why the Jewish bankers orchestrated WW2. But the Jews couldn't actually seize the land they needed from the Muslims who lived there, and they're too weak to do it on their own and this makes them really mad. And that's basically the root cause of all the Jewish malarky that's been going on since they made the central banks back in the early 1900s. I don't know if Muslims are actively trying to prevent the apocalypse or if they're just mad that the Jews are stealing their land. Apparently some Christians also think that it's necessary to build the third temple in order for the Second Coming to happen, which is probably why Evangelicals support Israel so much. https://www.jpost.com/christianworld/article-705729 But I think they think it will be occupied by the Antichrist since that might have been one of the Second Coming signs from the New Testament? So I guess they will view the Jewish Messiah as the Antichrist if things work out the way the Jews think it will. I'm not sure exactly how those two things fit together. Anyway I guess that explains the purpose of the globohobo.

KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL GERMAN VICTORY IS ASSURED!

>>2614 Seems like they are banning knives now.

>>2617 Following England's example, I see. At this point it's clear that most European leaders explicitly want their native citizens dead. Something's going to have to change soon.

>>2619 Seems like they just got an another knife attack. But it was a woman now.

https://youtu.be/RXHOCvH3Rfo?si=B9BSoNs6cVHt9cCe&t=488 >random "extremist" starts sending me unsolicited emails, gets increasingly angry and psychotic as I ignore them At first I thought this was a shill but that doesn't really make sense since he was spending so much energy on private messages. Then I just assumed it was a mentally ill guy (there were periods were he sent me 10 or more emails of angry rants a day), but then I saw in the linked video how this guy who was set up by the FBI experienced exactly the same thing. Now I'm pretty sure that it's the feds. Looking back I actually did experience very sloppy text message catfishing attempts as well a couple times but I just assumed it must have been an Indian scammer. I guess I must have done something to get on the FBI's radar.

>>2687 >I must have done something to get on the FBI's radar. Posting on Fringe should do it.

This movie seems to go way over mundanes' heads. How many religions, cults, political movements, nation-states, etc. are founded by wayward tulpas? All of them?

>>2696 The annoying part is that young adults today think of Fight Club as some narrow interest kind of movie. Some including it into lists to watch along with the Matrix as some part of PUA culture, while women saying it's a "red sign" or something. Both of these movies were huge mainstream successes at their time of release, and merely seen as commentary on society. Fight Club being maybe more about bringing the end of capitalism as a way of recovering a fundamental masculinity which has been lost and oppressed in the modern civilized city-life. It's ridiculous really. What was an anarchist movie 25 years ago is now considered "toxic chauvinism".

>>2723 (14) Another one. Really greasy. Sorry about the off-topic spam. I couldn't resist!

Talk about syncing hiveminds or whatever. Latest uploads on danbooru around the time the food pics were posted on here. What a joke.

>>2696 The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Some examples: >Romulus/Remus Romulus kills Remus right when they get Rome going, which started out as a group of rowdy men meeting up in the forest. >Jesus Christ I'm no expert but there are multiple theories that Jesus had a "twin" who was Judas or Thomas and impersonated him on the cross so he could continue living in France or some shit. >George Washington There's a notion that he was Adam Weishaupt's alter ego, which seems kind of dumb tbh. However, I doubt George Washington was anything more than a mythical character >Adolf Hitler Is said to have formed his Hitler Hitler persona after consulting a hypnotist to cure his blindness. >Donald Trump Decades worth of symbolism surrounding him, related to him having a "twin" or there being two Trumps. In 2016 it went semi-mainstream when Ben Carson said Red-Tie Trump and Blue-Tie Trump were distinct entities. There's also a major incongruity here where people treat him like a narcissistic megalomaniac when he actually comes across as extremely chill and difficult to bother >>2697 The actual plotline of Fight Club outside of the MC's psyche, is simply the humble beginning and eventual rise to prominence of a Discordian psyop group. Project Mayhem even uses Le Smiley Face as their symbol in the movie, but it's never associated with the movie itself.

Forget basic-bitch diversity, they're now putting mantis shapeshifters in games, and everyone's pretending it isn't happening.

I've had an obsession with hamburgers in the past weeks, been buying these form pressed hamburgers that are really just ground meat with spice. They used to be rather dull, meat didn't feel very high quality, but this year they are a lot better. I never go to restaurants for this because it just feels like trash to me, just walking by McDonald's literally make me want to cross the street when I feel the smell of capitalism, gang crime and obesity. Making these at home is on a whole different level though.

>AI spam >discord-tier meal blogs

>>2739 This is the generic future that you choose. But hold up, I have a line of thought here: Obviously Chinese censorship is different from western censorship. It seems to provide some freedom at first glance, because it lacks the extreme puritan thought, and the political correctness. But rather, it is simply applying a different "fear of government", the fear of being political, at all. Not some arbitrary moral values of the Abrahamic nature, just whatever stream/tree of thinking gets labeled as "political" in China. The automatic censorship isn't all there yet, this one engine above seems to have real time moderation, probably because the company is afraid to have their logo put on things deemed "meddling in politics". They directly block any attempts at creating Hitler, while Donald Trump was only censored after the fact. They deleted a vid of Donald disco dancing which is something rather unpolitical given his background, cirka 5 minutes after it being generated, it was removed from my library. What will remain is a world where everything can be reduced to descriptions given in a generic, childish wonder manner. No mentions of nationality, nothing with direction. Just "things", objects. The issue here is when things are seen as political. Take a regular object into a certain setting, and suddenly it is political and banned. But isn't this just any political thing? Aren't words and phrases just words, colours are colours, etc? The censorship of "politics" then become a censorship of the memetics behind ''viewing regular objects as political". The same thing really goes for Puritan moralism: is is taking regular objects, often relating to the human body, and viewing them from the context of a memetic structure, where they are considered "bad". These two views will clash at some point, because making certain moralistic connections which add the idea of "right or wrong" to objects, will inevitably be "political" seen from outside. No matter how generic your production, they will end up either "political" or "immoral" seen from either view. Currently it seems like the "political" label trumps the "immoral" label.

>>2742 The reason for this, appears to be that the method of censorship applied, although similar in that it censors, aims for things of opposing nature: The Chinese censorship want everyone to not make connections. They want things to be "pure" in the sense that an object is just an object, it doesn't mean anything other than its practical use. A reduction of thought and meaning in a Big Brother Newspeak manner. The perfect world being one where you can show them a picture of Hitler and they will say "haha funny moustache man!" and think nothing of it. Once achieved, you can give them full freedom, as they will not see politics anywhere, or form political movements. The Puritan goal is in reverse from this: they want you to look at an object and think "this is illegal, I must avoid it!" hence they are making connections. So the struggle between the two views are: one where you are reduced to not seeing connections but remain as a child, therefore pure. And the other where you learn to recognize sin by making connections, thereby turning you into a pervert who sees desires and filth everywhere, to keep you pure by not engaging in them. Which method leads to actual purity?

>>2743 The answer is neither, because a government trying to change human nature is like a tranny trying to change his gender.

>>2744 >a government trying to change human nature is like a tranny trying to change his gender. Funny comparison since both are banking on transhumanism to accomplish their goal(s)

>>2744 >The answer is neither But it was implied rather, which, if any, method leads to actual purity. What was presented was "purity by becoming like a child" (chinese method) and "purity by knowing sin and avoiding it" (puritan method). I suggest instead "purity by knowing sin and eliminating it from within yourself, thus becoming a knowing child". Also >vid related isn't this was AI is all about? xD I'd hate for it to be perfect, then it would stop being "art"-ificial and would just be "intelligence".

>>2743 >The Chinese censorship want everyone to not make connections If so, I wonder if there's any sort of conspiracy culture in PRoC at all. That also seems completely counter to how Classical Chinese language works. IDK how their modern language works though >>2754 The best part is I'm not even sure if that's actually happened IRL at this point

Asking bing copilot to find a problem in an example code that doesn't do what it was meant to, I asked to have it draw into a coordinate system so I could understand it better. Which caused bing to start printing every single point in the chat at autism level 1000, as if a 3000 * 3000 coordinate system would fit there with each point represented by an ascii character. When told to make it smaller to fit the screen, I instead got a bunch of... artworks. There's no balance in this AI, it's either full on autism or full on schizophrenia. But it's a start at least.

>watching Saikyou Onmyouji no Isekai Tenseiki and using chatgpt to understand the mythology and real historical references behind the lore >acquire new usable magical ideas and holy shit is flux good

Thought this was a bait image but I just tried it out on /pol/ and it's real. Everytime I think that 4chan can't get any worse they go and prove me wrong. I have certain boards leechblocked but I might need to go ahead and block the entire site at this point. They're not even trying to hide the fact that it's controlled opposition run by tranny discord faggots anymore.

>>2903 I've stopped going there completely. Aside from the botposting, every time I load /x/ there's this thread about "worm maxxing" or something with an image of an intestinal parasite, and I started associating the site with that image. Maybe there is nothing but parasites left there now.

It's a popular position to take that they're more than just abstract unconscious mental activity. For example I came across a youtuber claiming that they are real or prophetic experiences not that long ago. Well, I can safely assure you that they aren't prophetic, they aren't another dimension, they're whatever your head unconsciously believes about how the world functions if left alone without central cognitive control. How do I know this? Well, I don't actually want to talk about it too much. But let's just say I had a very strange brain experience one time where I was having odd ideas and dreaming vividly every night. And the dreams were, predictable, whatever distorted ideas I had about the world at that time. There are some benefits to knowing how the cake is really made. You could probably put yourself into a deep trance state and subconsciously program your psyche through visualization and prompts to fly, do magic, and other fun things that would be easily prompted while asleep. The trick or course, being to teach your subconscious what it should automatically do when in altered and diminished states of consciousness. I bet you didn't want to hear the truth though

>>2922 Are niggers real? If so where do I find real niggas Mister reality expert? Do not answer if you are a fake nigga tho. >>2904 >>2903 Cloudflare just banned my non-kosher browsers from visiting that site it's ridiculous. If it's not edge chrome or firefox then it's a big no-no. I cannot even comprehend what level of tracking they implemented for it to happen. I only liked visiting pol in the first 5 hours of a big happening. When no newsites knows the narrative they have to spout nor the shills got their script updated and it's all unfiltered chaos. Nowadays it's just demoralization upon demoralization and the lowest of low effort shill threads.

>>2922 A good longwinded post of stating the obvious. The brain is merely a screen for representation of complex messages. Your dreams are whatever someone placed there. Either originating with your own soul, a possessing spirit, greys, reptilians, Jesus, Allah, Loki, CIA, Mossad, the CCP or your local garden gnomes. Some of them are prophetic messages, some of them are brainwashing, some of them are religious.

Still suffering intrusive thoughts about the same braindead "jesus le antichrist" shit spammed by a deeply unwell britbong that claims to be celtic, and I went to war to prevent this memetic hijacker from overriding my psycho-memetic influence on the *chan noosphere. I have no idea on how to combat such concepts much less nullify them or invert them against their creator.

>>2950 Yes but now it's not the jew meme like when you first started posting. Back then you complained how the wizard ruined you and asked the other wizards to reverse that somehow. Now the issue is that the problem is not what the wizard did anymore but what you are doing and how you are feeding your psyche with the nonsense of that anglo fuck. Sadly I have a hunch if he vanishes you will just get attached to an another person with low energies like him. >I have no idea on how to combat such concepts much less nullify them or invert them against their creator. On your level you will have an extremely hard time to do anything. You will need to heal your own psyche first and figure out a place where your psyche can regain itself. Maybe try some meditation groups or I don't know. You managed to connect your psyche to the rectum of the internet and thinking if you spit into it hard enough it will go away. You will have to get out of that lowly and harsh place while finding something that has more meaning. Your mental faculties are burned out trying to do any damage and this mentality will not result in change. You will have to find emotions that are above rage and habits that are not dependent on addiction. My best advice is to find meditation groups or some yoga practitioners or anything where you cannot stay stuck in your mental trap where your only meaningful interaction is hating a single schizo in a completely psiopped and demoralized boards on 4chan.

>>1557 >>1717 >>2923

The depth of red-pilling of Japanese alternative media, and at the same time how chill they seem to be about it is baffling to me. The more Japanese I learn, and the more I read and listen to them, the weirder it gets. I guess it's proof that even when conspiracy theories become proven, or at least accepted, nothing really changes for the common plebeian. It doesn't matter that you know banks and transnational corporations have built a false reality to corral you in. You still need to pay your mortgage, or your rent, lest you get thrown in jail, or made into a pariah. It's fascinating and sobering at he same time.

Whoever wrote these scripts, Chiyomaru-san, understands how things work. I can't wait to play the rest of them.

Fascinatingly, the plot mirrors what happened in 2020 and the nature of such things in an uncanny way, all the while featuring a coronal mass discharge as a central plot point.

Is there any sort of significant research left to be done on brain activity during altered states of consciousness? I just remembered about a site that sells open source EEG hardware and I'm looking to see if I can contribute something to this board. Sorry if this belongs in the question thread, I just thought talking about researching occult phenomena via mundane methods might be too cringe for there

>>3136 Feel free to post your insights or even make an EEG thread. It is an interesting research field and fringe is not really knowledgeable about it overall. Personally I'm interested since my teens but never managed to get a hold of a gadget yet. There is an another anon who is going through a therapy involving those brainwave scans so I'm sure it will be helpful for him too. >I just thought talking about researching occult phenomena via mundane methods might be too cringe for there No it's not and you might call it "mundane" but it's more akin to "technological" method. It's not looked down but not all of us have the luxury to own one and have time or care to experiment with it. Feel free to post about it as much as you want. The mysteries of the mind might require to be uncovered from multiple angles anyways and new insights rarely hurt. >Is there any sort of significant research left to be done on brain activity during altered states of consciousness? Not to mention until everyone can levitate and move objects with their mind freely I think there is always more room for research involving mindscans.

Here comes winter

>>3240 Bruh it's only Halloween season. >>3166 Just like me fr fr

>>3240 Love it. The mist and dullness makes is all so soft and nice. Almost like fall.

>>3136 I used an EEG to determine that alpha and theta are related to light and deep trance states, like the books say. I also have an unnaturally high delta brainwave output. Basically my delta waves are permanently high. I checked with other people and it’s not my equipment’s fault. It’s my brain. I wonder if this is common with a certain kind of psychic person.

Now that's real black magic.

>>3355 >fringe overtook /niggerracial/ on the top board list TRV BLACK MAGIC FTW

Can't stop laughing at things like this.

Did a timeline crash again? I am witnessing some weird rift formation in the timestream I am working with and I wonder what is even causing it. >>3417 Miku-chan sugoi!

>>3418 Well I just started work on destroying my own timeline last night, but that might be a coincidence.

>>3418 I stopped mentioning it, after the way things went in the past week. The things I had planned to do when leaving the physical, played out within the same physical framework. I know, because the people (NPCs) around me were arranged to be inhabited by the people I was meant to meet and solve important issues with. All the while it looked the same as before, because certain things in my life weren't done yet, as a result of these meddling aliens who kept postponing the process by denying me what is mine. Shifting into the new incarnation's soul form was already done, but because of exactly this above, I have to stay projected from the future back into my same form as before. This isn't even "time" anymore, it's a mechanical construct which will progress forward as each element is solved, imitating the progression of time. I have no idea what that looks like to others, who would need to stay in their own dimensions, still synced with the last bit of remaining shared reality which still couldn't proceed to its correct state yet as result of above mentioned meddling.

>>3420 The witch who was overseeing my "soul mending" process removed the four stones which upheld the magic circle last night and let my reality form start degrading so I would slowly drop down towards the Earth and my new location. Along the way I already passed two space stations, provoked the covid cogwheel aliens to expose themselves and finally grasped something about the application of C# which I wasn't able to physically visualize though I since long have no problem understanding the structure at a more intuitive ethereal plane. It's all so very linked to the karma which was build into every little bit of it as it was created during the past 25 years, causing immense resistance in untangling each of these bits to see the real reason for their formation.

>>3419 You should "deconstruct it" and see how the little "strings" connect events and energies and how that forms habits routines synchronicity events fate and "destiny". Usually they connect parts of reality in a seemingly non-linear way but they are only visible once you are able to realize that things are not as linear as the "scientific mindset" makes it appear so. People had a complete different thinking before the invention of calendar and before we had alarm clocks built into every device we have around us. It's ridiculous how much banalities the human mind developed as we "digitalized" our existence. >that might be a coincidence I think it started for me 30 hours ago... And the problem is that I am somewhat benefiting from it because things that are outside of time and space are allowed to reach me. Just wondering if there is a greater machination at play. >>3420 >This isn't even "time" anymore, it's a mechanical construct which will progress forward as each element is solved, imitating the progression of time. Yes that can be called a "solved path" when you merely play out a "script" and free will is secondary. >I have no idea what that looks like to others My meridians are pulsating with unholy fire. And getting a bunch of free stuff from my unmanifested "selves" because the laws of time progression is "non-serious" now so I can ignore most cause and effect instead of doing my pathworking like a good little disciple. >>3421 >provoked the covid cogwheel aliens to expose themselves I thought I got a cold or something but it's the energies doing it. The problem with "discontinuing continuity" is that those fuckers that are so meaningless were "closed out" from the system can return with the "Leftover fuel" they have that they couldn't use because they lost their "reality license" or I don't know how to call it when foreign energies are temporarily "allowed" to exist until someone notices the energetic anomalies and demolishes them. Thx for answering btw. It caused some peculiar syncing and my head is pulsating less now.

There's also been this increasing mouse-posting over the past weeks, at first I felt what the fuck, but they kept driving it up until I realized, maybe someone is trying to say something. Turns out there, (as with most animal types?) are humanoid mouse-aliens out there. I already since long concluded there was some kind of thing going on with Mickey Mouse, where Steamboat Willie was an indicator of Keynesianism being introduced into the world. So now I figured, so far every stupid hostile thing in society turned out being the degenerated faction or application of some alien technology, so maybe this is the same abortion is an application of lyran technology driven down to extreme degeneration.

>>3423 OGEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacN1MzyeKo

I had a random download about why, on an esoteric level, some men in the past became polygamist that doesn't just have to do with more = better. In fact having one stable woman is somewhat easier to be fertile with. What I gathered is that a polygamist contract is a soul contract that allows several women to form a hivemind inside the man's soul and body and essentially collectively share his fate and soul. It boosts women's spiritual progress by leagues, and the man usually acts as a noble sacrafice through this process. I was told by the entity channeling, that the man may not even be interested in women during this process as much as the man who takes a single wife, because it appeals to broadening the male soul without stable exchange.

>>3433 Some men have such an excessive masculine energy they need several women and a "tribe" amount of descendants to temper his energies. For them "Having an equal" is only possible with several women. Also women in the past were more of a commodity than actual human beings. Just an another hungry mouth to feed which will make more hungry mouths if you fuck them. To have several wives you needed power and prosperity and if you had more than enough you had to share it or it goes to waste. People forget how food rots and how lands that are not tilled go barren fast so does your livestock waste if you don't care for them. Making people with power and money settle for a single woman that can never reach their heights but just silently walk along in the shadow is a modern phenomenon. >several women to form a hivemind inside the man's soul Imagine a harem where your bitches cannot get along and constantly fight over petty shit all the time. That is hell on earth. They need to form a wavelength and start operating on a "tribe" level otherwise they become so fucking annoying the man will just "go for some cigs in the store" and never return. There is a reason why cavemen were supposedly "matriarchal". And civilization could only form when the male was willing to "stay around" and build his legacy. When the man decided to build something greater than himself. Had to learn some lessons about the harems and their energy formations so I can make my raging soul calm the fuck down with the help of some female spirits because finding a woman IRL that will not sap my potential but enhance it instead is annoyingly difficult >It boosts women's spiritual progress by leagues Also this. Most women only awaken or develop at all after giving birth to several children. "Matriarchy" doesn't mean the rule of females it means the rule of mothers. And no not the conformist "mothers" we have nowadays but those that could give birth and raise children in the wilderness with their wits and instincts alone. Ever since society is "babying" women to the max they have no way to develop their motherly instincts. Most they can follow is guidelines and the "societal expectations" There are exceptions ofc but for most the instinct is as flawed as it can be. >that the man may not even be interested in women during this process as much as the man who takes a single wife Those who could afford harems usually had greater visions towards the future. They were not mere pimps that cared only about their bitches and nothing else. Our idea of gender dynamics changes with the era all the time. Hard to make a judgement what is the correct form of it. Seen many variations as I had to witness the "true quality" of the "principle of gender" within the human body and psyche and my conceptual understanding is still far from complete. Had so many visions and all of them are glimpses of the greater truth that doesn't require to be seen anymore but "felt". The Lovers tarot is so hard bros.it gives me a tremendous amount of >tfw no gf then it swaps into the territory of the devil and I make psychic anomalies because I skipped the lessons of Temperance again

>>3424 >OGEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CywmOitVWk >>3433 > It boosts women's spiritual progress by leagues >>3447 >"Matriarchy" doesn't mean the rule of females it means the rule of mothers This is what the "waifu army" was about, later developed more into the "loli army", and it definitely works - in different planes. Drow do this, women definitely rule with as strict hierarchy, but they need men as a commodity, not as slaves, but they need one man to function as the center of the group. It's a strange balance where it's really run by powerful women, but it's still a harem with one man officially. Russia works pretty much the same, (as anyone who had more astral contacts with them quickly learned), and the part about the fast development of females in harems is very much true here. If only you knew what is actually being done behind the scenes... we're talking work done in parallel histories and things like organizing army units done by girls in single digit age. "Assets" which don't even register on the map because there is no way to understand this kind of skill with conventional means.

There is no such thing as a good satan.

>>3696 Beheading someone like this will make them immortal, like how Marie Antoinette became a drow after beheading. Your post itself is very satanic in its way of presenting superficially one thing, when in reality meaning something else. Violent death makes satan immortal.

>>3702 So you admit that submission out of fear of death or defeat is asinine.

>>3696 A satan is just an accuser. Whether a satan is evil depends on your perspective on the deeds of the accused. If you are a moral realist, then satans are good because they point out the evil in the world so that it can be eliminated. If you're a moral antirealist, then calling satans evil doesn't make any sense. The fundamentalist view of "Satan Bad" comes through loopy logic, where God created Satan to do the job of accusing people, but God then later changed His mind and decided that the accused should be forgiven. That violates Christian dogma (where God cannot change His mind), most deontology (where what is good and evil is absolute, not changing over time). Maybe you could make a utilitarian justification but I sense you aren't a utilitarian.

>>3708 >admit This is a very devious term used in this manner, speaking as if it was the true situation, when the options you provide are not equal >death or defeat Are not the same. Death can mean victory, and who would surrender out of fear of defeat? If you fear defeat, this will cause you to fight on, as surrender leads to defeat per default.

>>3710 >Death can mean victory That's all I needed you to say.

Moreover, surrendering out of fear of death, can mean victory.

>>3712 You just contradicted yourself. A flaw's been exposed and you're trying to cover it back up.

>>3713 I wrote this before seeing your post. There is no contradiction. If death means defeat, then surrender means victory. If death means immortality, then death means victory.

Your point is that foolish death means victory. I do not agree. Foolish death means defeat.

>>3714 >If death means defeat You initially rebuked this with your beheading example. >If you fear defeat, this will cause you to fight on, as surrender leads to defeat per default. Contradicts your current statement.

>>3716 It is all contextual. You fail to see that the same act can mean opposite result in different situations.

>>3717 Don't try to speak in authoritarian syllogism if your meaning is this diffuse.

>>3718 You do not have the authority to say anything about my way of speaking. Your understanding of cause and effect is far too simplistic for you to take part in the argumentation you started. You want to believe that, definitely, death means victory. This is not true. If it was, why would you fight in the first place, just kill yourself. You also seem to think that surrender must be because of fear. It can be a logical consequence of your goals and the situation at hand. And as I said, you also equate death and surrender, while simultaneously saying that death is victory. All the while, you do not admit that these things do not have to be contradictive because their state changes based on the situation. Cognitive dissonance seems to make up the core of your thinking.

>>3720 >You want to believe that, definitely, death means victory No, that's a retarded statement and it's bizarre that you would even think this. >It can be a logical consequence of your goals and the situation at hand. It's a logical consequence of you failing to perceive and failing to be able to act in dimensions other than that of the grossest physical. As a result of this, if you were in Marie Antoinette's place you would probably beg and cry and plead and whore yourself shamelessly to escape what you perceived as total annihilation of the self, and thus you would not become immortal. This is the very core of the flaw in your mentality.

>>2923 >Do not answer if you are a fake nigga I don't know how to increase the real nigga energy of fringe. I feel like whatever I do will just result in the arrival of fake niggas. My theory in the past was that with a little beating you can turn any fake nigga into real nigga but nowadays I know they will just simply embrace their fakery more instead. Maybe real niggaz don't even exist anymore. Maybe it was an illusion. We live in a fake nigger world but I cannot accept that. There must be more to it.

>>3725 So apparently, I just learned a new word: a person who has sex with black women is called an "oil-driller". The more you know.

>>3728 >>3729 Always wonder what the swedes think about this weird gremlin. It really rubs me the wrong way that they tried to make her into some fake and gay version of Joan d'Arc. The first time I heard about her when some climatefucks started to defend her how a picture with Soros in her childhood doesn't mean she is paid and absolutely inorganic. <You can still support green movements without questioning the nefarious forces behind them! I wonder what level of nightmare the average leftist lives in a day to day basis to cope with this. Those that notice get branded as "far left" and the corpos take away their blessings forever from them.

Greta is forgotten by everyone after she turned legal age and put on the Palestine scarf, now she's just a HS dropout who had to finish in adult education and associates with nazis.

>>3786 >now she's just a HS dropout who had to finish in adult education and associates with nazis. Real gamer vibes.

What I hate the most about dismantling concepts in my head to achieve a higher mental flow and have the ability to retain information without words and images that I make constant grammar mistakes like a retard. It's really annoying how the english language doesn't have ancestral founding at all. It's a bastardization of many languages and the only reason we use it because it's easy it dominates commerce and didn't lose 2 world wars. Nowadays the development of the english language is shaped by the internet and the trends it creates the most. Sadly the western mindrot and their weakening education system results in the constant rot of this language egregore. If I connect to that my language skills will degrade instead of evolving like in most properly established cultures. 10 years ago I would have connected to places like Oxford or Yale and with the energies there it would have resulted in the improvement of my language skills but nowadays? I bet if I would look the archives I would find articles how they let illiterate and people with down syndrome get a degree to show how progressive they are. Wonder what can be considered as the most esteemed place of english grammar excellence nowadays if there is any at all.

I am thinking through my psychic protection manual idea and if I don't base it around well established rituals meditations or other books all I can say is. 1. Don't be a retard 2. Don't be a pussy 3. Everything is an illusion If these don't work then all I can say that the best bet is to look for books videos or protective entities. Everyone should introspect into their deepest parts find their guides and guardian entities that they have since birth and feel their true nature for combat and learn to be as instinctual as possible... is what I would say but I have extremely potent martial energies thanks to Mars and other planets in Aries so I might be biased in this regard. I just "feel the way" and when I get pissed it's like my adversaries are screaming their weakpoints into my subconscious and how much they want me to hit it. I really hate when I reach that state. >>3952 >Perhaps there's a different English language egregore that you can connect to? One that isn't muddled by internet trends. Not sure why you deleted your message but the problem with "too pure" egregores is that I cannot use it to communicate with those that are used to communicate in impure ways (it would just sound like a dry scientific paper and people just deny the message subconsciously for being too alien) or if it's too far or too pure for my mind I cannot access it either. I hate to say this but the main problem is probably the increase of the 3rd worlder population that can barely speak english nowadays

>>3953 >main problem is probably the increase of the 3rd worlder population that can barely speak english nowadays Oh and the fact that the original inhabitants are losing their "Pride" in their own language too. Once people start talking in "niggerish" way the egregore weakens with the current maintainers of the egregore if it doesn't have some "ancestral founding".The Saxxon language has an extremely specific "living rune system" that I encountered once but that language is mostly good for magic and rituals. You cannot use it to communicate with beings that are not astral druids or elder gods of the forest. Can't even speak it consciously. I can draw maybe 3 runes if I let my hand move on it's own at max.

>>3953 I wanted to re-word it, but then I decided not to bother re-posting it since I thought my advice was dumb and wouldn't really help. The flood protection made me wait 15 seconds after posting it to delete it.

>>3950 It's on my backlog to train my mind to think entirely in an ancient/dead language and be able to switch to it at will, temporarily "forgetting" English in order to isolate myself from the Anglo-American McEgregore. Probably Latin since it's the non-1st language I currently know best.

Continuing from here: >>3136 After looking at several different options I've unironically decided to go with pic related for my EEG studies. Hear me out: >It's cheap as hell (especially compared to other wireless EEG monitors), so experiments can be easily repeated by Anons on a budget >Although not open source, it uses a documented bluetooth serial protocol (This is important for two reasons: One, using a wireless interface means that there isn't a risk of an electric surge giving someone a seizure through it; Two, this means that you don't have to hack an Arduino onto it to get a readout from the thing) >An FFT is built into its chipset, this basically means that you can get the strength of Alpha/Beta/Theta frequencies in brainwaves without having to do any fancy computations yourself That being said, it's not without its drawbacks: <Somewhat susceptible to artifacting from muscular activity <Only reads from one electrode on the prefrontal cortex (Granted, this might not be an issue if all you want to record from it is just general brainwave frequencies) <Has accuracy issues, as documented by this medical paper: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4806709/ Overall I'm still considering getting one just since it is waaaaaaaaay cheaper than literally any other consumer EEG monitor. Even the cheap-ish open source solutions like OpenEEG work in a similar way to pic related and thus will likely have similar drawbacks. While I'm clearly not a neuroscientist, I still think that it could provide some valuable insights or be useful for biofeedback training, provided it works accurately enough.

>>3963 When my psychologist hooks me up to his neurofeedback machine, he puts 1 electrode on the upper-left side of my forehead, a 2nd on the upper-right side, and a 3rd & 4th about a centimeter behind my earlobes. His machine sees everything from delta to, what was it, 35hz? I might wanna ask him about consumer neurofeedback machines.

>>3963 If you have enough info about this research feel free to make a thread for it. Truth is I am quite interested in this technology and it's on my todo list to get some one day. The brain is a mysterious organ and when my emotions go haywire technology malfunctions around me. Seeing my "stats" when I do that sounds fun

It's intriguing how AI chatbots, crafted by elites themselves, function almost like perfect chaos machines. They can transform your intent into something untraceable due to the absence of a personal writing style. Interestingly, even psychics can't trace it back based on the poster's energy.

>>4009 >Interestingly, even psychics can't trace it back based on the poster's energy. The energy signature is like looking at a picture made of vomit 90% of the times. The only way I think I could trace that by becoming the person that vomited that text the person that laid their eyes first on that text before anyone else and feel the intent of the "first awareness before posting". That is absolutely disgusting and requires such a mental clarity I don't think that anyone can pull that off. Easier to trace IP addresses on that level.

>>4041 Jeez, I hadn't realized I had to hand-draw everything myself for it to count as OC. It doesn't take a genius to notice that I shopped a pre-existing image. Next time I'll be sure to record my meme-making process step-by-step so you can audit it for unethically sourced components.

The fact that UV radiation (sunlight) kills mold proves that Good and Evil exist in this world.

>Bunch of deleted posts again Guess I missed out as usual. Bet it was some high quality discussion that everyone will miss with teary eyes.

>>4068 This is the intrusive thoughts thread™ where we say niggerfaggot to people like (You) >deleted lmao >>4069 Why the fuck did you delete then repost it you retardomancer?

>>4069 I feel like I should really be offended by this, but strangely, I barely feel anything. In fact, if I was me from a few years ago, and the guy in the thread wasn’t me, then I would’ve probably had a response comparable to yours after reading the thread.

>>4070 I wanted to fit the text better but changed my mind. It was all meant in good fun as was >>4038 Honestly, I would have expected someone like you to have a sense of humor "Erisian"

>>4069 Oh wait you are not the retard who made caption reply memes who only replies in that guide thread. >>4074 The reason why I said this because I thought it's this retard coming back >>627 and I owe him a long rant still >you to have a sense of humor "Erisian" It is overshadowed by my anger towards his low effort memes. Sorry. It is a phase.

>>4074 Also I consider rage replies very humorous. I think that is the flesh and blood of the imageboard culture. >>4038 Especially if longposts bother you. Then guess you like rage replies more.

k am making a new meme too everyone stay tuned

>>4075 I'm actually >>3944 (14) and got inspired to do my part in spicing the place up. But between you and that retard bitching because I used a pre-existing image like y'know, almost every meme ever made the vibe is definitely kill >>4076 >if longposts bother you They don't.

>>4078 >the vibe is definitely kill Yeah I know and I shall make up for it sorrymasen WITNESS MY FIRST MEEM I MADE FOR YOU FRINGE Excuse my paintskill didn't develop it since my mandatory HS classes

This is the problem as you mess with egregores. When you take apart their energies they will have to go somewhere and if you are unable to grant them a place where they will flow the person who will enjoy the surge will be you. I really should go and look for meditations for rage and irritation. I can handle all emotions but that one. Wish the main cause was only the influence of the internet hate machine but truth is the internet angers me the least. Even tho we live in an age of rage baiting constantly.

>>4078 >the vibe is definitely kill When I wrote my angry reply to your mem something weird happened. First I felt a weird energy overtaking me and that made me realize I am not replying to the retard I thought I replied to. Then my creative desire to make memes slowly overtook me. And the strangest how that one of my energy block I had for the last months shattered. My guides always tell me during meditation that I am not connecting to all parts of my mind and I should look further. Never really got it what they are about. Well it turns out I never connect to the angry parts of my mind when I meditate or even think about magic. Only mundane matters truly anger me. With this I finally shattered a mental block and I can consciously interact with my angry parts. My guides always hinted that I think too much and I cannot solve every problem with thinking and I will have to let go. Didn't think missreading a meme will push me through an edge. Hope I didn't burst your creative bubble too much. Fringe has a problem where some old timers lash out at people who try to do something new and as I tried to take apart that energy I got overtaken by it. I am not just sorry but hope it will not take away your desire to make memes because of one angry fucker.Turning those angry fuckers amicable and finally productive for the current fringe will take time. They were here even a decade ago. They are a sort of "anti-fringe" population that is desperately addicted to fringe but cannot do magic on their own. Was never sure what is their deal. And what they seek here. Still not sure how to draw them out in a way they are willing to interact. They are addicted to their own misery for some reason

Okay enough memery for today. I should get some better image editor already.

Attention other Smileyberg poster: I thought I should let you know that T*ump is a *ew. Not trying to be a fed, just don’t want the /fringe/ egregore to be influenced by controlled opposition. Seek out “your time has come to an ___chan” /pol/ if you seek further proof. Also R*chard S*encer is controlled opposition, just in case you didn’t know.

>>4133 The man said last month that Trump & his family are reptilians, fwiw.

>>4133 "In the Service, one must always choose the lesser of two weevils."

>>4133 >Trump is a Jew And? So you're saying because Trump is a Jew /fringe/ should support the Bombs for Israel party? No thanks. Not only does voting against your interest not make sense, but if the world you're in is one where Our Democracy still exists you're delusional. That timeline was destroyed by WW3 in 2020. The Chinese bioweapon triggered ww3 after it killed 30% of military age white men only, and the planet was nuked. As far as I'm aware, the other alternative Our Democracy timelines met similar fates. I suspect you're in one of the secret military dictatorship timelines that is maintaining the myth of Our Democracy to maintain social control. If so it doesn't matter who wins the election since most of the population has been replaced with p-zombies (energetic blasts from nukes destrot weak souls) so they just vote for whoever the military tells them to via 5G.

>>4148 (787) >Sonic and one of his friends Had to post this

>>699 (OP) There are nothing but intrusive thoughts because thoughts are feedback loops of neuronal activity. You feed yourself with neural connections.

>>4168 >psychological materialism lol

>>4255 He looks so fucking different in his old pictures it's unreal.

>>4374 Yeah it's definitely the same person. You cannot just replace a demented old person with an another demented old person! People would notice that for sure!

>>4255 >>4374 >>4375 Everything about this guy is so authentic holy fuck.

Today I hurt myself by visiting /r/magick and reading the most voted answers to basic magic questions.

I think I reconstructed how newfags and low effort posters see this board as they open it. I call it Bizarro /fringe/

>>4451 I don't get it

>glowies using "weapons" whose only effect is a minor chakra cleanse >smh

>learn new stance to channel powerful energies without going MIA >it's pic related with a high sun on the right and a low moon on the left >mfw

I often think about invoking completely incompatible or opposite energies for the purpose of creating something janky and new. I call it chimera-work.

Real funny synchronicities.

You don't say

I wonder if the real Smiley will return some day.

>>4820 He isn't dead, he just doesn't care about this place. Here's his thread at kiwifarms: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/smiley-fringe-wizard-kenneth-schueler-and-fringechan.4428/page-6 He's still alive and active online. From what I get Smiley didn't actually create the /fringe/ board, it existed before. He just made it known by hosting the original fringechan, so it's natural if he feels no responsibility for it after leaving in 2017.

>>4820 I've been wondering that too since his recent posts appear semi-regularly on 4/pol/ archives which I use in lieu of a search engine for leads on obscure topics >>4827 >leaving in 2017 I think he was still around during 8kun because a link to his short-lived personal containment board from another site, "mintboard" was added to /fringe/'s front page What a cunt that supposed "girl" is, validating all his suspicions by posting what he thought might be a heartfelt conversation to trannyfarms to be gawked at, all while considering herself "well adjusted"

>>4827 kiwifarms has such a weird stink to it. It feels like what glowies do in their off time for fun.

>>4831 Well the troll who got Chris Chan arrested is a confirmed glowie

>all esoteric knowledge keeps bringing me back to this man https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/username/Fringe%20Wizard/page/40/

I love this show

>>4895 >mfw whenever I scroll through the overboard

Whenever I scroll through the overboard I can hear Santa Muerte whispering about anti semitism

Boo!

I see you know. Of course, a mushroom bomb cloud.

Nukes aren't real in the way they are pretended to be, but they are real as a concept. This will be fun.

Djinn attacks are fun. Basically they direct intense insane rage at you. It's like someone going into psychotic shock, getting so angry they just writhe on the ground foaming at the mouth. For me it creates an interesting fire element buildup as the head draws blood from the chest and heats up. After I kill the djinn, I then get a very nice tingling cooling sensation as the fire element beam is cut off. It's kind of like the endorphin rush you get after working out. I might try to replicate this for personal energy body work. >>4952 In Overlord, "Nuclear Blast" is actually one of the weakest 9th-tier spells, in terms of damage. Its utility comes from its wide area-of-effect and variety of debilitating status effects, which makes it effective for crowd control.

>>4954 Funny coming from your kind. Why talk down your own special ability?

>>4957 What? I never use nukes, they're sloppy and unprofessional.

>>4958 I think that speaks more for your ability to use them than what they really are capable of.

>>4959 They aren't capable of much, apparently.

>weirdos post in bumplocked threads on the second page and wasting precious GETs with their inanity. wtf man

>>5001 looking at anchored threads has me glad those "people" are left shouting into the void tbh

>>5001 Glowie behaviour in glowie thread. It's the "secret" method for late night loli threads, which only take off with the real postings after they bumplock and leave the front page, then there's a good 3 -4 hours of free for all cp posting. They must have confused where they are.

>>5001 Hello, my post has effected you deeply and you thought about it strongly enough to post about it, thank you for your kind words, you have my permission to return to posting schizophrenic ramblings about the numbers (what do they mean?) >The absolute state of /fringe/ wizards

>>5008 Don't you have somewhere else to be?

>>5001 >t.

Looking at this thread further confirms it, magick is real etc, but the vast majority of what anyone in this thread describes is not a spiritual experience but the externalization of internal views a la psychology, exhibit a: >>4954 >This poster has anger relating to events that control his present that he has not managed, and places that anger upon the external "Djinn" >>4057 kek >>3963 EEGs are more precise and you can get a setup on ebay for a modest sum of a few hundred dollars >Consumer Hospitals auction/sell their old junk regularly and don't usually check that you're a hospital or doctor when purchasing, often you can also find these things on craigslist or just digging around goodwill as well

>>5014 Nigger you're the glownigger for attributing literally every facet of reality to magick to the point of insanity, keeping real sane human beings from developing their spiritual skills

>>5015 >le give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar How about no? You're not a real wizard if you believe there is still some "normal world" ruled by a materiality you can't control. That's newfig tier, not even neophyte yet. But you wouldn't know that would you? I'm starting to see a pattern here

>>5016 So far I've seen "experts" refer to the various elements of self as things to project consciousness to as astral projection, meaning they've literally never managed to project astrally, only to the inner world I've seen people argue that universal consciousness is a universal truth with zero understanding that this is a uniquely abrahamic phenomenon, continuing which feeds the egregore that the jewish faith has created, with no basis in actual metaphysical reality I've seen many "experts" say a bunch of inane things and demand adherence because they are well learned, when what they say does not reflect reality There are no tiers, there is no gatekeeping, knowledge comes from you, and an elitism tied to a specific idea is bait for pseudointellectuals who desperately would like to be praised >I will now act like a reddit moderator and cry that the board is dead on another thread, at the same time I will claim I have mystical control of the world around me If you have a total control over physical through the metaphysical, I demand you kill me over the internet right now with a physical gun teleported in front of my face; you are claiming to be able to do this and you do not understand this world enough to know why that is not possible here

>>5017 Too bad there won't be anyone to cry about it, it doesn't quite work like in "natural born killers" where they can leave a witness to spread the word.

>>5017 Also kabbalah, what is with you retards and kabbalah, kabbalah can only have reality for you if you accept being a part of god, rather than seeking what is outside this place, you all seethe and cry and moan when I say this, literally unable to understand it >Jewish egregore >What does it mean! >I will now seek out numbers to interpret gods will, and subsume all creation as a part of god, including myself >I am too retarded to understand that I am doing this, even when it is decribed to me, I will now call you a glownigger >>5018 Do it nigger, right now, just blam blam, would you like to know why you can't or will you just return to the womb or claim that reality is just a projection of your internal insanity, despite the fact you can't count every grain of sand at the beach

>>5020 It's really just me posting with different flags, no one else here uses kabbalah. I know it's a tough thing to accept but you have to be 40 and identify as male to study kabbalah, having a degree in glowery won't give you access to the real meaning of the bible, no matter how many bombs you send to Netanyahu. Real Jews won't support him, as you're seeing right now, they refuse to enlist, because they're peaceful. You bet on the wrong horse and now you have to run the race.

>>5021 >I will now turn the conversation political >I promise I am not a glownigger

>>5022 Who are you quoting?

>>5022 Also why is that image over 1000 x 1000 pixels and blurry like a nerd with myopia?

>>5023 >>5021 >I'll just pretend there is no political stint in this post >>5024 It's not the quality you ask for, but it's the quality you deserve

>>5025 I don't see a stint in your post, so fair enough ?

Not sure which you meant, but anyway.

>>5027 You need to take the L from time to time if you would like to learn

I don't know who's responsible and I frankly don't care either, but seeing as it's probably related to my postings here, I'll assume the relevant parties will see it if I post here: That bull and the dragon you summoned from the void and sent to me - bitch move. Why would you summon spirits from the void into forms that are as ugly as that? You're pissing me off with your arrogance and disrespect for other beings. Give them a proper form if you're going to summon someone. >but they came on their own, they seemed to like it Yeah, because they had no other way to manifest, would you want to look like that? I caught them and used my de-manifester gun on them, then I re-summoned them as cute monster girls instead. I also gave them a decent education in space mining within the federation and a introduction to magic. Treat your summons nicely, retards. You want me to de-manifest you and summon you into ugly beings like that, huh? Maybe I'll do that next time if you repeat this shit.

>>5035 >That bull and the dragon Funny i thought of myself as "doing the bull" yesterday because i was thinking of water bufallo and how i am a dragon and need to understand all elements. But i didn't summon anyone.. >from the void ok i have a theory. There seem to be two kind of souls, those from the father and those from the mother. The goals of the first would be to climb back to the father and "become one". The latter are unmanifest nature spirit but they are also objects and everything that exists also our bodies physical or otherwise.. I think i am a nature spirit in human form but this also means i am nature like how it all shares the same source and in some case act as one when one remember and make other remembers. >I also gave them a decent education in space mining within the federation and a introduction to magic. Thanks for treating my siblings with care :D