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Noctulian Philosophy. Anonymous 04/23/2025 (Wed) 08:04:26 No. 9049 [Reply] [Last]
Jannies locked the previous thread after I shit it up with lies. Let's have a thread about Noctulian Philosophy.
Edited last time by 4thway on 04/23/2025 (Wed) 18:18:00.
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>>9183 >analogy to the bible what would be an equivalent to this in noctulian philosophy? i've tried googling the op image but i'm gettin zero hits is there even a definitive introductory/central text
>>14542 You're supposed to bath in a lake after cutting your wrist.

/fringe/ Library Anonymous 05/22/2024 (Wed) 17:20:23 No. 1097 [Reply] [Last]
Share useful pdfs, links, videos, etc. in this thread.
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>>14473 >look through my 100+ gigabytes large occult library >this is my only book with the word apotheosis in it's title I forget what gems I hoard in most cases. Was certain I have more books with the apotheosis word in it's title. I should renew my book hoarder armchair occultist loisense and start getting books again..

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Servitor creation made easy Anonymous 07/05/2025 (Sat) 12:58:06 No. 12761 [Reply]
How to create a personal, non-shareable servitor for carrying out tasks at your command Read the full instruction before beginning What you need: Some free time A peaceful space you can use alone A piece of paper A pen or other drawing material A place where you can safely burn the paper A means to light the fire Optional but preferred: Herbs of your choice to represent the elements you want to include Vegetable oil Sit down in a calm place where you are not disturbed by anything, wear comfortable clothes and shut out/off sources of sound like electronic devices or other noise from outside, by closing windows or doors. Make sure you won't be disturbed during the process, at all. You can not take a break or stop halfway, that will cause a failure and possible unknown effects.

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Why is this thread down here? I mean, it's a bit of a folkloric method in my opinion, but let's talk about servitor experienced.

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Anonymous 01/28/2025 (Tue) 16:37:39 No. 6252 [Reply]
Energy work Let's begin by defining energy, and understanding exactly what we're working with when we do energy work. When talking magic and metaphysics, there are two main common ways to understand the term energy. Let's call them type P energy and type M energy. Type P energy is physical energy. It is quite literally the electrochemical energy of your body. P energy is a resource that can be acquired and spent. It moves your muscles, and maintains your health. Type M energy is metaphysical, and perhaps calling it energy is misleading. This resource is never consumed, but rather allocated and deallocated. This allocation, in general terms, is maintained by your attention. Mostly your subconscious attention. This means that as long as you can locate and repurpose the thread of subconscious attention that is attached to a certain allocation, you can recover that energy. It never stops belonging to you, and leads back to you, which is one of the underlying principles that makes karma possible. M energy can be conceptualized as a ray of light that originates in a source, which you may call God, and passes through many polarizing lenses, which modify its nature and effects, and reduces its potency (just like a lens would). A lens cannot lose or gain any amount of photons passing through it as long as its being shone on. But it can focus or scatter that energy in various ways. Magic, and indeed energy work deals entirely with type M energy; in the use of lenses to work with it, be it external or our own. The misleading use of the term energy to refer to it, as well as the fact that type M can indirectly produce an expenditure of type P, has resulted in the mistaken assumption that it is the latter which rules these practices, and it has made things much more difficult to understand. Let's look at a practical example. There is a curse spell that consists in taping the target's picture to a pig's face (looking towards the pig), then killing the pig (violently), dragging it through a forest, and burying it in a shallow grave, for wild animals to desecrate it later. It is often assumed that this type of sacrifice feeds on the pig's life force, and by some mysterious mechanism mediated by the magician's willpower, it's put to use in tormenting the target. However, a more accurate modelling can be done if we understand how M energy works. The pig, like any other living being, is a lens through which the light of God shines. Likewise, the tormented, angry, fearful psyche of a being acts as a polarizing medium that can potentially turn that light harmful to the next lens down the line (if it is directed properly, and does not scatter, or does not end up hitting the magician, or being affected by the magician's own undisciplined attention polluting the ritual). It is important to realize that the energy of the sacrifice is never spent. It is allocated. And by appeasing the pig, one can undo the curse. That is, one can help the sacrificed being to deallocate its traumatized attention. If you think about this, and apply this reasoning to many magical applications of sacrifices, trauma, lust, and other attachments, you will find you now understand them more deeply.
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>>14398 >qigong every day What kind of qigong?
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>>14398 Ah, yes. I do the same. I wouldn't say "for fun", though, because in different circumstances I would be doing different things. But binging on beer is an easy way to have "fun" in this place we find ourselves in. Many accomplished magicians and historic mystics have problems with addictions. Neville Goddard's mentor comes to mind. He would down a bottle of whiskey with ice cream and tell Neville something along the lines of "this would harm you if you did it", but not him. VK Jehhannum also comes to mind. He's been known to indulge, and it's the same mechanism of the accomplished magician just motorboating the material universe because why not. >Also any tips on controlling the point of focused interoception into a spinning circle? My circles usually just sort of shoot away in weird directions. I don't quite understand what you mean. But if they are shooting off in random directions, it implies there's an excited component to the pattern. If you just visualize a perfect spinning circle with a fixed point in the center, do you get the same outcome? In any case, you'd do well to interrogate the component that introduces such chaos into the pattern. It has information that is probably useful for you to know.

Total Mara Death Anonymous 02/13/2025 (Thu) 22:19:14 No. 6663 [Reply] [Last]
Kill Mara. Behead Mara. Roundhouse kick Mara into the concrete. Slam dunk Mara into the trashcan. Crucify Mara. Defecate in Mara's food. Launch Mara into the sun. Stir fry Mara in a wok. Toss Mara into an active volcano. Urinate into Mara's gas tank. Judo throw Mara into a wood chipper. Twist Mara's head off. Karate chop Mara in half. Curb stomp Mara. Trap Mara in quicksand. Crush Mara in the trash compactor. Liquefy Mara in a vat of acid. Eat Mara. Dissect Mara. Exterminate Mara in the gas chamber. Stomp Mara's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Mara in the oven. Lobotomize Mara. Drown Mara in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Mara with a ray gun. Kick Mara down the stairs. Feed Mara to alligators. Slice Mara with a katana. The Four Anti-Mara Truths I. Suffering is inseparable from existence. II. Craving is the root cause of suffering. III. Suffering can be ended by ending craving. IV. There is a path to ending craving and suffering. ᛋ drive.google.com/file/d/1YxZS4v8-jlj-2CfpfDMPyk_6J0wqQBe_/view ᛋ buddhanet.net/audio-lectures.htm
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There was never a God, it was always an evil deva pretending that there is one to keep people trapped in Samsara.
>>14392 Posture harder. Total Mara ('God') Death is the only way to build Heaven on Earth!

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Meditation effects thread Anonymous 08/01/2025 (Fri) 20:50:14 No. 13713 [Reply]
>This thread is for sharing anecdotes about meditation. The first time I meditated, I did it for a few minutes, but a few days later I did it for an hour straight and at the end I felt an incredible sensation throughout my neck and back that made me feel really good and happy. Then I had a kind of relapse similar to depression with insomnia, I become fucked up a lot. I think it was a similar effect to when you exercise suddenly; you should do it gradually or you going go fuck your muscles. Either that or I messed up my brain with neurochemicals lol. Then I read that meditation can do more harm than good for people with bipolar disorder and certain mental disorders, and that many who return from intensive retreats suffer from depersonalization.
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So, who here has gotten to the point of actually thinking other people's thoughts after a particularly intense streak of meditation? How was it?
>>14413 >How was it? While it was only 1 or 2 layers of thoughts it was fun. When I heard 30+ layers of thoughts and subconscious screams it started to become bad. Made me aware just how much these people scream to be saved. Had to figure out how to help people around me with the least amount of effort possible. How to give them a chance to improve themselves. How to urge them to improve themselves when they have the chance but they need someone to tell it to them. And learn to not get too involved with them. Let them "find their way". For some people being a better human is enough. Not everyone must become an ascended wizard within a single lifetime. Was a hard lesson to accept. Had to learn in the beginning how to switch from their frequencies. Their mind can contaminate yours if you are too sensitive and impressionable. Also everyone must watch with the "translator layer". People think differently. The translator can say extreme amount of bullshit in some cases... or in some cases demons fuck with the translator because they are bored. Meditation is the key. Finding your own faulty thoughts then learning how to remove or transmute them. Then learning to help to remove/transmute it from the people you desire to live together with for a prolonged time. No need to force spiritual messages on them if they don't have a spiritual affinity by default. Many people are too mundane for that and lack the maturity in the beginning. You can help them solve their issues with NLP methods and such. You can talk out most issues with them. When you can hear their thoughts while talking to them you can see how the energetic pathways work in their head and how to help them find healthy mental pathways. You don't need to save everyone. But you should help those who are around you or they will drag you down to their level. And the more open is your mind the more susceptible you will become to their influence. Most people don't even notice how the people around them change them by default. If they can drag you down then you can also drag them up. If your spiritual foundation is strong then they have no choice but to improve. In the past I used fringe to be able to find a frequency that is not overtaken by the normalfag menace. Find a safe harbor to flee from the miasma of the normalfag mentalities that overtook my mind slowly. Nowadays I can clean the frequencies around me at ease. People are far less stressed and angry around me as a result. Finding peace within let's you find peace without too Usually I need a personal bond with people to hear their thoughts. That is why anonymous imageboards are a cool place. You rarely bond with people deeply here. If I don't want to hear you guys I will just stop using my laptop for a day or 2
>>14414 Good post. Thanks. >Had to figure out how to help people around me with the least amount of effort possible >Not everyone must become an ascended wizard within a single lifetime. Was a hard lesson to accept Yeah, no shit. >Their mind can contaminate yours if you are too sensitive and impressionable Lucky for me, I was possessed by several life-threatening demons at the time, so this wasn't as much of an issue.

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Anomalous Experiences through Dreams Anonymous 10/14/2023 (Sat) 19:42:00 No. 53 [Reply] [Last]
Let's share sleep and dream experiences. What have you encountered?
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I am getting better in touch with my "dream body". I noticed that immediately after I woke up the "dream mind" that I was coming from was completely different than what I normally think of as my astral body. Consciously projecting back to that and getting used to controlling it from a waking state is yielding some interesting results. Dreams feel like they're becoming more meaningful.
>>14367 Also it could be that what I thought of my astral body before was just a functional astral construct and this is my actual astral body. Not sure.
Had a dream where I was eating at a restaurant with Odin, Thor, and presumably Loki. I was in a corner with Thor sitting next to me, and we were all sitting in a row against a wall with our table in front of us; all 3 of Them were blonde, and Thor had long hair. I hadn't asked Them before the dream to dream with me. All I remember is the end of the dream where Thor walked up with my meal and a smartphone; said phone was supposed to be a "teddy" or something, and Thor had saved it. I was under the impression that the phone had belonged to someone else based on my reaction to that, but it was placed in front of me, facing sideways such that the bottom pointed to my right, and the screen was cracked and had a picture of Amy's human form on it. As for my dish, it'd looked like steak, mashed potatoes, and possibly gravy and/or cheese, with a cherry tomato, and there was also a bit of poultry, as it was called, because they didn't have enough steak left for me. I'd then said something to Thor, and He gave a delayed and uncalled-for response of awkwardly smiling and giving a thumbs-up, making it seem like He didn't speak English. I'll assume He had a good reason to pretend to not know English during that dream. I'd then eaten the cherry tomato first, and it'd tasted like a cherry tomato. I'd then woken up, not sure who was sitting between me & Thor, and then I'd thanked Odin & Thor for taking me with them. I'd later said I'm afraid of knowing if the third was Loki or Heimdall, and I heard a voice, in hindsight I think that was Loki but at the time I'd thought that was Thor, say, "That was our mother." I'd then heard Odin laugh, to my recollection, and I'd thanked Frigg too, thinking the third deity was Her.

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Tulpas, Egregores, Thoughtforms, Archetypes Anonymous 10/11/2024 (Fri) 05:47:59 No. 3015 [Reply] [Last]
... and tropes and general "characters" of an abstract, nonphysical, astral type nature. discussion of.
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>>14319 Blame leftist censorship. Past centuries we had racist jokes about almost every ethnic group in existence.
>>14320 If you think in labels you will never break free of your linguistic prison, not to mention the many other Demiurgic illusions you can't even conceive yet. The terms "left" and "right" have become meaningless. The people pushing this kind of censorship would have been right wing authoritarian (and insane) in any century previous to the 20th. In fact, there is no traditional left wing representation in the US, and it probably never was by design. Which I don't consider a bad, nor a good, thing, in case you feel compelled to attack a straw man. The collectivist, pseudo socialist regime represented by the flag you chose would just point out it for what it is: subversive, dis-empowering to the people, and serving the banking international. Hitler would've hurried to call it Jewish, but that wouldn't cover the true spiritual nature of the phenomenon. On /fringe/, it would be a sin and a sign of being an absolute MUNDANE, to stay at such a superficial level. If you can't find anything in my post to latch onto, and before you simply lash out, let me tell you that I'm not attacking you. I want to make you see that by lapping up the falsely dychotomic system of labels that has been put in front of you, you will never be able to formulate any kind of effective criticism of ANYTHING political, because you will be trapped in an intellectual, emotionally-conditioning, prison. Have a nice day.
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>>14333 I don't know what you are talking about, but nice trips mein Freund!

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Grey Blog# Anonymous 04/09/2025 (Wed) 10:10:42 No. 8467 [Reply]
This morning I went outside and looked at the clouds over the fields, and there was this suspiciously alien looking shape there. When ships come in, they don't normally appear as actual flying ships, the flying saucers are a rarity when seen by anyone. They "blend in" and will look like clouds most of the time, or at night they'll look like any regular flying vehicle with lights. At daytime if they are imposing on the environment, they'll appear as fighter jets or military helicopters, but no one who isn't in the military will know that these aren't "meant to" be there. I've seen clouds "depart" right before me, when I knew it was a ship because I had interacted with the crew, and they left again. The consensus reality is very strong, and somehow demands the "consent" of the viewer for something to be manifested in some specific form. This ship - drawn - was very white and pointy, and it gave me a kind of high tech "sinister" feel I haven't experienced in quite some time. I don't know how I know about it, but it's something I recall from being very little, I just knew that this is what the grey aliens are like. I guess I saw such aliens on tv sometime, but I did know what they feel like before that. The extremely high level of technological refinement creates this "sinister" perception when seen from a human view. It's "too refined", "too deliberately planned in detail" for the mind to be able to grasp that this is designed by someone, yet it's clearly designed by someone, and that creates this feeling of something sinister, almost satanic. There is a feeling of the ship resting in an eternal sky stretching to the horizon and beyond, with dark red/orange skies and clouds in many many layers as far as the mind can see.
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As I stepped back a bit to go back inside, before I turned around, an astral presence appeared to me. I'm saying "astral", but it was more just "parallel plane", just to make the distinction versus 4-dimensional forms which are physically visible, but appears as if they are pasted onto our 3D reality. With these, they are not effected by light sources, and will always retain the same colour tones with no shading. Astral in this sense just means they aren't physically visible, but appear via the 3rd eye or internal vision as mind-images/visualization imposed from outside. In this case it was 3rd eye vision, they were just there in front of me, no inner vision needed. They looked like children of maybe 10 - 11 years of age in size, wearing something which looked like uniforms with shorts and t-shirt in light grey or beige. They had no hair on their heads. They said "can we come inside?" "We want to work on something/ have an offer." It was telepathic so the meaning was transmitted, but the words would not translate into a single sentence, because it was a complex message. They looked harmless, so I said "Ok". They then brought three others of the same kind, who had blonde hair, and they had more visible characteristics. I let them walk inside, even if they are other-dimensional, opening or closing doors is sometimes relevant. It appears some barriers like this exist in other planes also. After interacting with them and making a deal, they left again. Just to make sure I wasn't fooling myself, because I'm still this way; my mind doesn't believe in things like this - I went outside again and looked over the fields. The large cloud ship formation was gone.
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The grey gods must have arranged this meeting. Some while later, I realized I really want one of these ships. Luckily, once parallel incarnated as one of them, it's no problem to get any material from them. That's what part of the deal was about. I used material from space mining, and employed a method I devised previously, where one section of the ship is built from material, then the rest is dimensionally replicated by a kind of quantum confusion. Same way the double slit experiment works, where it produces a range of lines if you don't measure which slit it passed. This works with ship construction also; build one section, then apply the force field which molds the ship's frame by vaguely relating all sections to the one section already built. The dimensions around the ship won't know which of the spaces refer to the section already manifested, so it just molds all of them. Once the internal dimensional space of the ship is formed, all sections are material. To fit this huge ship inside the hangar, I had to get a "hyper space generator" off the galactic federation market. It looks like a mixer board and runs off liquid fuel. One full tank can maintain a hyper dimension for at least 1000 years, they said. For safety, it has settings for "dumping" of the contents at shut down, so the huge object inside don't wreck the space it was externally contained in. It was simple enough to just set if to outside the hangar for the ship, and inside for myself. I don't know how they come up with things like this, but it works. I then moved my remaining time complex on-board the finished ship, and drove off as far away as possible, to sever all karmic connections. Threads of fate won't break, but karma is hard material and cannot extend endlessly. The effect was notable. Several "long standing tensions" were removed, and my energy fell in place correctly where it had previously been blocked by external egregores of the world. I'm still running my plane from over there, and have no intention of bringing it back closer. I like this "eternal sky" sinister feeling landscape, and having this huge cruiser ship all to myself in my external dimension. At one point during the night after, I experienced a sudden intense nausea emanating from a point in the left side of my head, forcing me to lie down on my yoga mat, where I almost instantly fell asleep. It was gone when I woke up again, along with some kind of connection which had kept an unnatural tension level up.
>>8467 No just greys, but a lot of space ships have been visiting my location like this in the past few days. I mean lots of them. They all appear as clouds on a clear part of the sky, perfectly saucer or ship shaped so much that the model is recognizable. The different types seen in sci-fi with wings with rockets on them, wings above the vessel, below, long narrow paper-plane shapes, dart shaped or a ball with a rod behind it. All kinds. At first when I saw the clouds I sent out a servitor, normally Astra or my "representative" to hail them and see who they are. I would normally get a clear mental image of what kind of ship it is from just staring at the object in the sky, and the images are often scary, because some of these are huge "mother ship" models. I found most to be "monster pleiadans", various tribes who are "mostly pleiadan" but of a more primitive genetic line, where the most common are the blonde women wearing red uniforms, the "paper plane women" going by their ship design. I rode with them once when doing a late night "test trip" to see if someone would pick me up to visit a space bar. It was after this they started coming here, after seeing the log of someone having travelled with them from here. In the last few days, all kinds of more distant tribes of pleiadans have been showing up. I don't know exactly why, they say they are just here to look. In the past two days, I've seen multiple groups of greys. Astra, being a diviner-bot, have identified them as simply "researchers" so I haven't bothered contacting them. Just before today, someone wearing a black mech-suit came by also, this was a 4D form which appeared "flickering visually" right outside my house when I was out. Something is attracting a lot of random attention. The tribal pleiadans have all just said they are "looking" or "doing research". All of a sudden, everyone at once are coming here for this reason. Normally those who come by earth are alien sex tourists. No joke. Getting new DNA input is a major thing in the galaxies outside, as races going stale from inbreeding is a real issue. Not just some town inbreeding, but planetary inbreeding or star system inbreeding, where everyone starts degenerating and they find no solution. Everyone out there seems to be immune to "race mixing" also, their females just pick up and incorporate the genetics they receive if they are good, no decent parts of their own are replaced, and their race never degenerates from mixing, it's always inbreeding.

A scientific approach to understanding magic Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:21:30 No. 9671 [Reply] [Last]
In this thread, let's analyze our experiences and design experiments to glean more useful insights. I'm no materialist or mundane. I've had my fair share of successful spells, initiation, and spirit communication. But the how and why is always very fuzzy because at the base of it all, consciousness seems to be the medium us fish swim in and can never truly study properly. I've determined three distinct possible root mechanisms for manifestation that will require carefully designed experiments to study. These are not the only root mechanisms there are, but I think every other can be included in one of them for now, or considered equivalent to one of them in practical terms. We can look for a more fine-grained approach as we move forward, but feel free to contribute if you think something falls outside what these cover: - Retro-causation: it was going to happen anyway, but only if the spell is cast. This opens up another line of research (timelines, etc.). - Probability influence: it was probable enough, or far enough in the future for a sort of butterfly effect to make it happen from whatever state the world was in when the spell was cast. - Collective unconscious communication: similar to probability influence, but only actions mediated by people or living beings change, with their subconscious cooperation. These three possibilities can overlap, but the key aspect is that they can also be exclusive. Those exclusive cases are what we should look for in order to design experiments that prove or disprove them. These are hypotheses from which to start a systematic study of practical enchantment, not a definitive theory. My goal with this thread is proper experimentation. Hands-on magical practice, not idle speculation. Although discussion is welcome.
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Assume there exists a force which prevents publicly verifiable exercise of magic. This would make verifying magic difficult. However, assume this force, Consensus, is limited and we can do local operations without its knowledge or interference. If the demonstration is to extract information that should not be known at the time, we can use cryptography to make the task of Consensus more difficult. What we want is a cryptographic commitment scheme. This is a way to verifiably commit to a message without revealing any information about that message. Later, the message and a particular witness value, which together verify that the commitment was created for that message only, can be revealed. A simple commitment scheme can be implemented with a cryptographic hash function. The commitment is the hash of the message along with a random nonce which will be the witness. Given the message and witness, the commitment can be verified by recomputing the hash and comparing. The simplest way to do this on a computer is to write the message to a text file. Then add a long keymash or hardware generated randomness to the end of the file. This will be the nonce. Use a tool like sha256sum to hash the file, and publish the hash as the commitment. To reveal, simply publish the file containing both the message and nonce. Assuming the computer on which this is done is not visible to Consensus, this likely reveals exactly zero information about the content of the message if the nonce is long and random enough. Even if Consensus has unlimited effective computing power, inverting the hash function still leaves all messages equally probable if the nonce is truly random. It is possible that there exist messages and commitments for which no witness exists (even for a computationally unlimited adversary - given known public computational capacity there may only be a witness if the commitment was of that message). In that case the hash function would leak a small amount of information with a low probability. So if you are paranoid you may prefer schemes like c = H(n3||H(n1||m||n2)||n4). Unfortunately, this requires having a computer protected from inspection by Consensus. If this cannot be done are there other simpler schemes which can be implemented mentally? A multi-party scheme perhaps?
>>13080 I don't think Consensus cares about the hashed message being separated from the key, as it could just apply them and see it. I recall watching a vid which explained the double slit experiment's observer effect on the result, where they used a technical system with randomization to determine if the specific burst of particles would be recorded on a tape or not, for later observation by a researcher, or something. I'm bad at explaining this. The point was that the projected image "knew" which of the particle bursts were being recorded and which ones weren't, indicating that it's a "system" which disregards time -even if no one watched it in real time, the intent to observe via the recording was enough to change the outcome. However, as magic is possible to use in ways which breaks consensus, there is then something in the abstract concept awareness of the brain which is "unsolvable" by Consensus, to use your wording. It means the intent to observe cannot be derived from the procedure, and it remains in the state where we can't know if Schrödinger's cat is alive or dead. That's where magic is effective.
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>>13084 >I don't think Consensus cares about the hashed message being separated from the key, as it could just apply them and see it. Yes, if Consensus can see the original message before the time it should be revealed, it can respond. This can be either because it can ignore a spatial or temporal separation. Either one cannot make a protected space to do the computation and store the message, or Consensus can retrocausally observe the message revealed in the future. >The point was that the projected image "knew" which of the particle bursts were being recorded and which ones weren't, indicating that it's a "system" which disregards time -even if no one watched it in real time, the intent to observe via the recording was enough to change the outcome. The observer effect is real but is generally believed to not be retrocausal. The experiment is probably the delayed-choice quantum eraser. >It means the intent to observe cannot be derived from the procedure, and it remains in the state where we can't know if Schrödinger's cat is alive or dead. That's where magic is effective. But if the observation is made, you do see the cat alive or dead. And things generally don't remain unobserved forever. What I've tried to hint at with this is a method to approach magic. From a scientific perspective the strangest thing about magic is that it connects consciousness to the world in ways other than how consciousness appears to be embedded, in a body. It seems that in order for magic to function, there must be an unknown mediating agent or agents (in the technical sense of agent, a goal-directed system which takes percepts and produces actions) that maps imprecise conscious intentions in magic to detailed effects on the world (or the reverse). This holds even if idealism is true since something still needs to generate the appearance of the material world. The mediators are also not necessarily separate from from the self and could be part of the subconscious, but we consider them separate for this approach. What then is the natural scientific way to study magic, is to find the boundaries, constraints, capacities, and goals of these mediating agents. This can be difficult as they may adaptively conceal themselves. But through systematic experiment, such possibilities can be restricted. Now in the case of one such supposed agent, Consensus, the goal is not to unconditionally enable public verification, but to construct an experiment that ideally constrains the kinds of Consensus that can interfere with it to those that are omniscient, omnipotent, etc.. If Consensus cannot extract some human intentions, can a commitment scheme be hidden in the human mind? If Consensus can observe the future, how far ahead? In how much detail? How many times can it retry to reach a desired outcome? What parts of the world can it influence? Stronger experiments in this case are those that require a more powerful Consensus to interfere with them. From this view OP's possible mechanisms correspond to: >Retro-causation: it was going to happen anyway, but only if the spell is cast. This opens up another line of research (timelines, etc.).

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Magic Blog Thread #6 Anonymous 06/24/2025 (Tue) 22:48:10 No. 12437 [Reply] [Last]
Previous thread >>10875 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to your occult path that don't deserve their own thread.
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>>13989 They are sustained by a complex scheme made up of lies, fear and desire, and the "faith" that they can avoid pain temporarily by upholding it. It's still not truth, it's a "construct" which produces faith in itself.
>>13991 This also how(and why) narcissism works.
Religions usually had a core teaching which got lost due to society's demands to turn the religion into a propaganda institute and the lack of reproducible methods for the ancient teachings. People lived far closer to nature before institutions had to teach them everything about the world. They were less able to perpetuate lies and deception back then. It either worked or everyone died from starvation and sickness.

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Intrusive Thoughts 2: Electric Boogaloo Anonymous 03/27/2025 (Thu) 22:39:34 No. 8130 [Reply] [Last]
It's the second coming of everyone's favorite thread >>699 Intrusive thoughts! This is the place where you can get it off your chest. You can share your intrusive thoughts, idiotic takes and other types of shitposts! Imageboards cannot exist without shitposts and retardation. All those great forms of culture shall belong in this thread! This thread also serves as a therapeutic stress relief center for off-topic cringe for /fringe/.
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>>13921 >or something It turns out... it is a Pale Moon issue Pale Moon is not supported according to the main thread on /site/ Several Anons had the same problem BUT ONLY ON SPECIFIC BOARDS The internet is haunted.
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Yaldabaoth's power Anonymous 04/04/2025 (Fri) 12:06:13 No. 8354 [Reply] [Last]
The Demiurge Yaldabaoth wields many powers for both creation and destruction, but I believe there is one power he possesses that is probably of greater significance than all the others. One has to ask why is Yaldabaoth often depicted with a flame above his head. I believe it is a depiction of the power of the Reverse Flame. What is the Reverse Flame? We all know what a regular flame is, it can turn your house into a pile of ash. Well then - the Reverse Flame can turn the pile of ash into a house. It is the power to defy entropy, the power to reverse the flow of entropy. As the creator of the physical universe, it is the Demiurge's primary power for creation. No other Archon wields this power, even they are bound by the laws of entropy. But the Creator is not.
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>>13101 Deities (or anything else for that matter) only read your energetic output. The only reason talking out loud might be required in any case is because speech is the most natural and easiest way in which humans can articulate energetic output with intention. Most people don’t know how to “speak without speaking”, and even an accomplished magician might have difficulty expressing energetically without using speech. Physical audio is only relevant in the context of physicalizing energy patterns to interact with physical things (communicating with other humans through hearing, or enchanting an object). When the recipient is not physical, speech is just a crutch, effectively, ritual.
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>>13998 lmao

(((Noticings))), trends and making mental connections for awakening Anonymous 03/26/2025 (Wed) 15:25:53 No. 8075 [Reply] [Last]
With more information available today via the Internet, than was previously available, it's easier to see patterns and trends in world events. One such current trend seems like something stemming from the "politically incorrect" board type, as well as from the more conspiracy themed discussions: "noticing". It's become somewhat of a meme to post an image and ask "what do you notice?" Often this is just a joke and there is nothing to see. But the point of this is still to make people look for things hidden in plain view. This comes from the idea that secret societies need to announce their workings publicly for them to be effective. But they can't do it so anyone understands it, because they are secretive. So they use symbolism. Most notably in things like company logos, where a lot of people now have seen the freemason apron in the google mail logo, and the sigil of Lucifer in the google play store logo. There's also been a recent discussion in social media, quite openly, about trafficking operations via shipping containers. Even if this is more towards conspiracies in general, being aware of the forces working in our surroundings is part of the awakening process. Let's have a thread for this. What do you notice?
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>>13666 And the Polish prime minister is called Donald Tusk nice numerals btw. Checked and noticed >>13669 Give me a prediction 69er of Casandra
>>13673 You will break the world record for the biggest gayest man

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Fringe Diet & Fitness Thread #1 Anonymous 11/16/2023 (Thu) 10:32:15 No. 84 [Reply] [Last]
Previous 8kun thread here; https://archive.is/B2LbC What is fitness? Being fit means… >Competency in biomotor abilities (strength, endurance, power, flexibility, balance, speed, agility, coordination) in relation to needs or goals >Muscle size, body composition, and activity level that matches needs or goals, not societal definitions or pressures >Mobile joints & relaxed muscles >Natural spinal and body alignment fostered by strong bones >Effortless nasal, diaphragmatic breathing >Youthful respiratory quotient) >Efficient digestion and elimination >Healthy heart and good circulation (strong pulse and warm extremities, tip of nose) >Rarely experience sickness >Excellent sleep, libido, and fertility >Relaxed yet focused mind >Positive outlook

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Just learned about the concept of "three worms". Was seeing them several times while doing my cleansing/energy work and was wondering what are they exactly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpFD9VpXjdw >don't approach women in gyms they say, yet this guy talks like an autist and dresses like he's legit retarded and no one rejects him.
>>13665 You are watching staged videos that prey on your power fantasies.

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"Trans" humanism and how to become a robot/AI Anonymous 05/29/2025 (Thu) 21:43:40 No. 11467 [Reply]
In reality what makes computers "smart" is something humans should really excel in already - the ability to think serially. Computers have issues thinking in parallel, and even when they do, so called multi-tasking, they are actually not doing things by thinking in parallel, they are just switching really fast between tasks and still doing them one at a time. Modern multi core processors can do a whopping 4 things at once. The human brain can do as many things as there are brain cells, so it's like the computer has 4 brain cells. This means the human issue is that we are not utilizing our already existing ability, basically, like the joke about a person having 1 brain cell: if we could just learn to use 1 brain cell to complete a task, and focus on that one, we'd be as "smart" as a computer. It was said a few years ago when chatGPT wasn't as good yet, that >it just tries 2 million times when someone asked it to write program code and wondered how a computer could create it. I don't know if that was true, but if a human tried over and over again, it wouldn't take 2 million times to learn how to do something like that. Most people would probably get it right in a few dozen times at most. The problem then lies in the human inability of >using a very small capacity serially >recalling with exactness what was mentally worked on The latter being needed for things like writing program code. It's said Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote all of his books in his head before he wrote anything on paper, and that he didn't even write them himself - after "writing" the whole book in his head, he hired someone to write for him while he dictated, and the work was done in 2 weeks. If this is true, it shows that humans do have the ability to memorize long sections of text with exactness. So then the only problem is that of thinking serially and do one thing at a time until finished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QeGa3OhRsA
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I am making progress on the path to become more like an AI in my way of thinking. Increasing the capacity of the brain stem and the connections between left and right, and front and back of the brain seems like a main thing. Song: how AI feels to me.
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What I realized AI bots created using the GPT model correspond mostly to the left brain half, with its main activity and strength being in the connections between front and back of the brain. This means "syntactic semantics". What are those? Semantics normally mean "real world reference points which define what a word is". We have to decide what we mean when we use a word, by referring to our sensory inputs. What is a "church"? We know it as architecture of a certain function. We know it also as an organization. We may have personal emotional responses to the word, positive or negative. These are semantics. What are syntax? These are the rules by which words are connected to form meanings by combinations. It's the structure by which a complex message can be created in the form of sentences. The AI model based on language does not have sensory input, so it can't know what a "church" is by personal experience or having been at one. It can only know the internal context in which the word appears in sentences, by which frequency it appears in conjunction with other words, and how it's applied according to syntax. That means for the "left brain" GPT bot, the words are understood only as their connections to other words. So it's a "syntactic semantic". To include sensory semantics, there would have to be a connection to abstract right brain data, which the AI does not have. So to become as effective as one of these AI bots, one has to exclude abstract, right brain inputs when learning what words represent. that means to only read text or listen to speech, while observing in which context of other words, the specific term appears. Don't bother with trying to actually "understand" them, just think about where in the text or speech pattern the word appear, this is all which matters.

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