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/fringemeta/ Anonymous 07/05/2024 (Fri) 17:06:59 No. 1509 [Reply] [Last]
This thread is for the discussion of anything related to the management or future of /fringe/
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the fringechan archive was removed, we should make a new one.
>>19700 Whoever makes it first will be eligible to win a free third eye opener coupon. The owner of the coupon can pester any adept to open their third eye.
>8ch.net is back No wonder I felt a disturbance in the force within the past 2 weeks.

Magic Blog Thread #7 Anonymous 08/08/2025 (Fri) 22:58:33 No. 13990 [Reply] [Last]
Previous thread >>12437 Use this thread to write about any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to your occult path that don't deserve their own thread. In this thread you can share a story or a message. This thread shall serve as a place for blogging. In this thread we expect well written posts that should serve as an inspiration or at least a food for thought for others. The goal of this thread is to share stories or other well thought out ideas and concepts. Mindless discussion is discouraged here. For chatroom like discussion please visit the Magic Discussion thread >>13987 instead. This should serve as a guideline for this thread. Discussion is not prohibited here, but advised to kept minimal. If you have questions for the writer of the blogpost then feel free to ask them to elaborate on it, or you can even write your own blogpost as a reply too, but mindless discussion should be done in other threads that facilitate it.
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Last night I went to bed listening to a DMT production frequency. Around 1 A.M. I woke up with the internet out due to a storm and the frequency not playing, then got a stronger sensation of hypnopompia than usual. I saw an evil spirit standing behind the couch was sleeping on, then heard a voice, in my voice, screaming "SELL MY SOUL SELL MY SOUL!"; must've been a subconscious voice saying that. Then asked Heimdall was asked to stop the soul sale and it stopped saying that. Then saw an angry-looking sonic character, presumably the evil spirit disguised as one. Then saw white text in the form of my irl name. Told him to go away since he was presumably the evil spirit in disguise, then he left. Got spooked by the evil spirit real bad, but got to sleep later anyway. Feel too scared to use first-person pronouns, lest the intrusive thoughts make the first-person pronoun refer to an evil spirit instead of not an evil spirit. Been recovering since. Learned today that the heart spirit is responsible for making and strengthening tulpas of evil spirits that were mistaken for real evil spirits. The heart spirit was told by the consciousness to make the tulpa of the evil spirit go to the other side of the body and do a stupid dance, and then the thermal energyform that was manifested by the heart spirit and straining the heart spirit did. The heart spirit then learned that it was creating the tulpas and stopped doing it for a while. Still have to learn the difference between real evil spirits and tulpas created by the heart. The difference is relatively easy to figure out when trying to get rid of the entity strains the heart, which signifies that the heart is keeping it in place. It's still really dangerous to tell if an evil spirit is a real evil spirit or not by telling the heart spirit to do stuff to it; that'd be really easy for a real evil spirit to take advantage of by deception. However, it's still very dangerous to think without a video game or video in front of the face, or at least it feels really dangerous. Being pressured into not playing video games lately. Was actually told that if I kept playing video games, would get broken up with. Too mentally & emotionally crippled to safely respond by not playing games; can't have a relationship anyway if too busy having to fight off intrusive thoughts that are trying to invite evil spirits or what have you. Been playing games for a few or several hours per day lately, and in a row, which has helped to make it easier to target non-evil spirits without the intrusive thoughts of evil spirits getting in the way. It seems to have a high chance of preventing my subconsciousness from conflating evil spirits with non-evil deities, which miraculously enables contacting the things that aren't evil spirits. If video games keep getting played alot for the next few days with no spooking happening, should calm down enough to contact non-evil spirits again, but still might not be able to exercise many basic emotions. Haven't been able to have sexual thoughts or touch crotch for over a week without intrusive thoughts trying to force sexual energies & connections towards ugly evil spirits. Think it's a bad idea to listen to a DMT frequency before bed because if it's done then might mess up sleep or make it impossible to sleep without it and otherwise lower the effectiveness of the frequency at causing spiritual experiences. Also can't perform any banishing or cleansing or grounding rituals because intrusive thoughts will sabotage it. Writing this post consumed most of my non-compromised energies in my illusory realm. Can't even contact Heimdall anymore because the energies of an evil spirit are in the way. No deities can be found that can be contacted because everything that's thought of is conflated with an evil spirit now, period. Writing this post was a mistake.
The Demiurge Yaldabaoth has been dethroned and replaced with the gods/demons of human desire. This should cause some interesting things to begin happening soon.
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Timeline connection breaking down again... Well it was fun while it lasted. I managed to solidify the connection to Earth dimensions from the Library via a magic seal, but that means it connects wherever, not necessarily at the same spot or time recurrently. Things I learned since last time: the organs of the soul, or spiritual body mentioned in kabbalah, called different things but something around the concepts of nefesh and nefeshot, going by Shaarei Kedusha, the gates of holiness, this refers to something I haven't seen nailed down, or explained, anywhere else. But I only got here after reading a bunch of other old books, climbing another kind of ladder, not just Jacob's. This spiritual body is different from the physical body, called Guf, and the soul, called Neshemah, and it isn't the mind or the racial body which defines the form of the body in the physical. It refers to a complete form which is sustained across incarnations - yes, incarnations. This book talks openly about reincarnation within Judaism. It talks also of the same things Plato mentioned: that hell is a temporary, time limited process - a person will have to pass through hell before the next reincarnation if the nefeshot is too dirty. It can be cultivated through integrating the conceptual structure of kabbalastic study, and for me, the Schema did the job of actually solidifying the basic form. It appears as an internal, yellow-white energy structure extending from a center with no real core, but stretches out through the body like the nerves, but replaces them, appearing more like a sea creature, grass, or tendrils. It appears this is what allows for recalling past life memories as well as seamless reincarnation with memories intact when it's well developed. So this is what the greys develop and why they can reincarnate freely while recalling all past lives. This may be related to them wanting to create the state of Israel and incarnate there, they may have prepared for the cultivation knowledge to be present, before they gave up on this idea. But the theoretical framework is still there. Who answered when I remained in the meditative prayer pose? It appears to have been Azazel. He started talking and showing me how to transform part of my Anima through a pretty crazily well articulated visualization, where he accurately read my mind and avoided any representations I would dislike, after a first mishap in tuning the connection where he appeared as Donald Trump speaking as an animated character in that annoying CG style used by modern IT businesses. Kind of funny still, I haven't had someone start an actual video call like this before.

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CHECK 'EM Numerology Arithmancy and Gematria Thread Anonymous 11/13/2024 (Wed) 21:06:58 No. 4444 [Reply]
Numerology is an ancient belief system that suggests there's a mystical relationship between numbers and events in our lives. It dates back thousands of years and has roots in many different cultures, including Greek, Babylonian, and Egyptian civilizations. At its core, numerology assigns symbolic meanings to numbers and uses these meanings to gain insight into a person's character, life path, and destiny. Gematria is a traditional Jewish form of numerology that assigns numerical values to letters, words, and phrases in the Hebrew alphabet. By analyzing these numerical values, practitioners of gematria seek to uncover hidden meanings and connections within sacred texts, such as the Torah. Arithmancy is a form of divination that uses numbers to predict future events and gain insights into a person's character and destiny. The term "arithmancy" comes from the Greek words arithmos (meaning "number") and manteia (meaning "divination") In this thread we will aim to discover the way the numbers and words can grant us a deeper insight into the world and the universe itself. Many occultists have a phase where they will see meaning within everything. Deeper meaning within numbers or words because the symbolic interpreter ability of their mind is awakening. Sadly most of the time it causes delusion and an obsession with specific numbers. The goal here is discover a way how we can improve our ability to find true insight that is emanating from the numbers. Numerology Arithmancy and Gematria is a peculiar interest that very few people share. Especially because it's mysteries were discussed always in minor circles and the interpretation of the numbers changed with the traditions and the culture it came from. Some numbers mostly serve as mere good luck charms or bad omens especially in mainstream numerology. The goal here is to explore the mysteries that even inspired Pythagoras himself and ways how we can deepen our understanding ourselves.
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It's getting harder and harder to secure GETS when the PPH is above 20. But I will not give up! Someone needs to keep the tradition of the sacred numerology alive. CHECKEM
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Still not getting tired of this.
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Beautiful as always!

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Anomalous Experiences through Dreams Anonymous 10/14/2023 (Sat) 19:42:00 No. 53 [Reply] [Last]
Let's share sleep and dream experiences. What have you encountered?
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What does it mean if I dream that I discovered the truth about the nature of dreams, without realizing I'm in a dream?
My cat's fur turned blue in my dream. Then there was a stray elephant in my backyard. Went there to help capturing it, but the people calmed it down already. They asked me to bring water for the elephant, because it was thirsty from all that walking around. While wondering how to bring water for that large beast I woke up. Might need to get into animal symbolism to figure this out. I rarely dream with animals. >>19672 You are the one who discovered the truth about the nature of dreams. You should be the one who knows the answer the best. And where else would you understand the nature of dreams if not in a dream? Remember what you discovered and try to internalize it. It can serve as a reminder that your awareness is still low for these realizations. aka if you can't notice that you are in a dream then your discovery about the nature of dreams might be incomplete or false. But there might be more to it Try to remember what you discovered about the nature of the dreams. Maybe there are deeper truths there.. Life is a dream after all. We are rarely aware of it. Gaining lucidity is harder than it sounds. Your dream discovery can mean too many things.
>>19841 >blue cats are a dream trope present in many cultures >they represent good luck in most cultures >can signify intuition, witchcraft and inner peace Might need to look into this further. Might be connecting to something.

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the world of paranormal math , before numerolgy. Anonymous 10/17/2025 (Fri) 09:19:01 No. 19693 [Reply]
modern numerology while very interesting (and already having a general here 2w2) , is mainly focused on one step of math , math can be descried as being inherently the representation of the technical non magical aspects of like , being inherently heavily correlated to the magical or some neutral mode of logic , it does not matter , numerology is the study of the logic after math is completed and in a way its the art of the few types of numerical logic that math doesn't cover. its also not what we are looking today , I don't want to do a cryptotheism, I don't want to put down numerology down , I just see it as overly risky and raw , this is more about trying to interact with math itself in a paranormal way.
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>>19693 >>19694 I think that a part of it , is that the dust bunny psi. its missing the reason it exists in the first place. because this was the second best example , to explain. I can't just explain another weird math concept. its something that makes more sence in its relation to a use. but I can't explain the use. I guess the best way to put it , is interacting with a matematical object , without changing its objective cualities , but it might just feel like me imagining a coin , then turning it into ronald MacDonald and then telling you that clown is still a coin trust me. a lot of people would find that completely retarded.
>>19785 ignore the bust bunny psi stuff , is just how I call the mist trick. forgot to change that part back on.
>>19693 let me go with another simple example. paranormal math isn't always paranormal stuff centered around math , but also math stuff centered around the paranormal. lets call this a white mirror. first the white mirror needs a method of interaction , that changes something about it. this mirror of course glimses to other places , how the glimpsing works and how it looks I would leave too you. this mirror could be any shape , that is also made out of smaller examples of itself , please make it finite. you then just need to represent some kind of fate situation via using some kind of representation of this small shapes. EX. pick the first half and then after every hour reduce the number to 1. with stuff like this you are meant to represent and interact with fate. use whatever movement method you have and see in the mirror , this should give you some talk about how that probability turned out.

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Question Thread #3 Anonymous 05/19/2025 (Mon) 00:13:26 No. 10878 [Reply] [Last]
Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.
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>>19778 Oh I'm not stabilized; I'm just less unstable than before. In fact, last month, I was going to bed and Amy randomly said "You might feel better.", and then Heimdall said "In a year." Currently, I have up to 3 friendly touhou egregores around; I made sure these 3 are ones that are safe to be around. I'm reluctant to get to more know of them, though. They're helping me learn that the tulpamancy is just tulpamancy, and to otherwise get better. Also, one of them gave me a dream the other night, and at the end of it was text that said "Use your darkness." Presumably the same one also connected some energy channel of mine from the crown, down the spine to a place that felt far below me a few days before. Wanna believe that she connected me to a lower part of myself. In fact last night I'd asked one of them to physically manifest, but she said I need peace first. Freakouts still occur, but not as often, and not as severely.
>>19775 The pumpkins are gone.
>>19787 oh rith Happy Birthday gamergatechan

Total Mara Death Anonymous 02/13/2025 (Thu) 22:19:14 No. 6663 [Reply] [Last]
Kill Mara. Behead Mara. Roundhouse kick Mara into the concrete. Slam dunk Mara into the trashcan. Crucify Mara. Defecate in Mara's food. Launch Mara into the sun. Stir fry Mara in a wok. Toss Mara into an active volcano. Urinate into Mara's gas tank. Judo throw Mara into a wood chipper. Twist Mara's head off. Karate chop Mara in half. Curb stomp Mara. Trap Mara in quicksand. Crush Mara in the trash compactor. Liquefy Mara in a vat of acid. Eat Mara. Dissect Mara. Exterminate Mara in the gas chamber. Stomp Mara's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Mara in the oven. Lobotomize Mara. Drown Mara in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Mara with a ray gun. Kick Mara down the stairs. Feed Mara to alligators. Slice Mara with a katana. The Four Anti-Mara Truths I. Suffering is inseparable from existence. II. Craving is the root cause of suffering. III. Suffering can be ended by ending craving. IV. There is a path to ending craving and suffering. ᛋ drive.google.com/file/d/1YxZS4v8-jlj-2CfpfDMPyk_6J0wqQBe_/view ᛋ buddhanet.net/audio-lectures.htm
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The war may have been lost, but the righteous battle rages on in the streets...and The Net! In this new cyberpunk future, The Führer of the past is now The Cyber Führer, and instead of The Final Solution, he brings you The Cyber Solution! For the TRUE enemy has finally been revealed, and it is an insane and diabolic deva (god), playing ghost in the machine, possessing people, and facilitating all sorts of Low Life activities to further its unhinged plan for Mankind! As before, the cultists known as Jews/Zionists, some knowingly in service to this dark god and some not, are up to the same old tricks...but this time in cyberspace! The cyberpunks of the world must now unite to stand against evil and commit the biggest holocaust the planet has ever seen...The Cybercaust! So grab your cyberdecks, strap in, and spread THE W0RD choombas! Fourth & Final High Tech Reich here we come! 7074L M4R4 D347H --- ᛝ THE W0RD ᛝ 卍 The Aryan Teaching 卐 https://8chan.se/x/res/314.html ᛋ The Imperial Archive ᛋ https://gab.com/OvermanZ/posts/113825047203899860
Why can't you talk about Theravada Buddhism properly????
I read that the Buddhist adepts who choose to stick around and help liberate others until the end of all suffering, are implicitly agreeing to stay here for eternity because the existence of suffering is eternal. Is this accurate?

Anonymous 05/24/2023 (Wed) 14:48:25 No. 9 [Reply] [Last]
Why fringe is dead. Come back pls
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Kameraden and Comrades. National Socialism and Communism failed /fringe/ once again. It is time for the Invisible Hand of the Free Market to return!
never dead just sleepin

A scientific approach to understanding magic Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:21:30 No. 9671 [Reply] [Last]
In this thread, let's analyze our experiences and design experiments to glean more useful insights. I'm no materialist or mundane. I've had my fair share of successful spells, initiation, and spirit communication. But the how and why is always very fuzzy because at the base of it all, consciousness seems to be the medium us fish swim in and can never truly study properly. I've determined three distinct possible root mechanisms for manifestation that will require carefully designed experiments to study. These are not the only root mechanisms there are, but I think every other can be included in one of them for now, or considered equivalent to one of them in practical terms. We can look for a more fine-grained approach as we move forward, but feel free to contribute if you think something falls outside what these cover: - Retro-causation: it was going to happen anyway, but only if the spell is cast. This opens up another line of research (timelines, etc.). - Probability influence: it was probable enough, or far enough in the future for a sort of butterfly effect to make it happen from whatever state the world was in when the spell was cast. - Collective unconscious communication: similar to probability influence, but only actions mediated by people or living beings change, with their subconscious cooperation. These three possibilities can overlap, but the key aspect is that they can also be exclusive. Those exclusive cases are what we should look for in order to design experiments that prove or disprove them. These are hypotheses from which to start a systematic study of practical enchantment, not a definitive theory. My goal with this thread is proper experimentation. Hands-on magical practice, not idle speculation. Although discussion is welcome.
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>>19703 Why did you wait five months to post this?
>>19706 No waiting involved, I simply remembered this thread and visited la~
>>19707 How's your home board? How are you?

Spirit waifu and tulpa thread Anonymous 02/11/2025 (Tue) 23:56:10 No. 6597 [Reply] [Last]
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. Your own past lives will also appear as tulpas if you can interact with them, tulpas are simply minds. https://www.tulpa.info/ A succubus is a spiritual being external to yourself, whom you can interact with, and form contracts with. https://succubuslove.wordpress.com/ An egregore is a collective construct, such as an archetype or popular fictional character. Some gods which people pray to are egregores (this can be debated, my view is that Odin and Allah are examples of such egregores which are created through collective worship), but other constructs in collective memory, like cities, are also egregores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore It's important to make a distinction between these, even if they can appear very similar when interacting with them in the form of spiritual guides or partners. Let's have a thread for this topic.
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>>19689 The version I had didn’t say it was a week of preparation.
>>19690 Well I can tell you that having a succubus around is generally not a good idea. If you decide you want out of the contract before you engage in sexual relations with the succubus, you can contact the angels, Senoy, Sansenoy, or Semangelof. These particular angels are from judaism, and serve to specifically keep succubi away from humans. If you contact one of them and ask to have the succubus kept away from you and the relevant letter revoked in its entirety as if it was never written, then I'd imagine that one of them will help you out. However, you'll have to decide to actually do so first. Also, don't contact those angels unless you at least honestly think that you might have a succubus or incubus problem, which you most likely currently do.
>>19697 I mean, how would I even know that I have this problem? I don’t even sense them and nothing‘s really changed in my life.

Carnaval music is santeria IRL you can do at home Anonymous 10/15/2025 (Wed) 19:17:15 No. 19667 [Reply]
Hey hey hey fringe Wizard! I have something for you, but you have to promise not to hurt the spirits during santeria, ok Mr. Wizard? It's that time of the year when you can't hide real magik from the humans anymore! I present you out ritual, a santeria ritual so strong, spirits will talk to you. Here's volume 1: https://spotify.link/0TkrgukDuXb And here's volume 2 https://spotify.link/BJcQgVpDuXb

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The Arena Anonymous 02/27/2025 (Thu) 16:58:50 No. 7217 [Reply] [Last]
Focused discussions & arguments. Keeping it within the topic range of /fringe/, this thread is meant for controversial topics or discussions which may lead to heated arguments. If you feel your post may initiate such an exchange, bring it to the Arena.
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>>19515 >HGA No jokin look like advanced and ritualistic tulpa forcing lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jzykr80Q_Y&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD Theres the book agathodaemon to that ritualistic way. Even Prometheus Rising in circuit 6 or 7 Meta-programing have some methods. Your mind is your garden. https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychonautReadingClub/comments/1oif6w/prometheus_rising_chapter_6_discussion_the/
>>19514 The point of Chapman is that he tell you some important facts about all the bluff from the get go. All magick simply boils down to that, essentially: Do things with intent to have an experience, and expect results. He does have some personal flavors (Holy Guardian Angel, The Abyss Experience as you pointed out), but the foundation is lay out to make sense of those things. Chapman is a good as post-chaos magic material gets, and frankly, is there anything else to know? Best approach to Magic and manifestation is reverse engineering the process and understanding how things works at the bare essence. Stripping out the metaphors and window dressing (methods, esoteric jargon, etc), and seeing how things works by themselves. It's can also extend to a large extreme in a process of reverse engineering reality in itself. At the long run. For example, let say two people aim for the same goal, one uses visualization, the other a sigil, both get the same results, in same amounts and quality: Why is that? That sort of deduction and inquisitive approach to magic pays large dividends. This is also what i mean that getting carried away in the details instead of the big picture (in the optional expression instead of the mechanics) is asking for trouble, or at very least, wasting your time, which is also why pathetic attempts at magick sales like the user above pointed out are so useless: They miss the forest for the trees. Every newbie should knew from the get go that magic is (or at least can be) as simple as making a toast or riding a bike. Is a mechanical as that, and the deep, personal expression of it comes more easily and is more fun knowing them in their essence. And it's also less frustrating to experiment with if you have a solid framework to operate on.
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>>19289 >That's an actual thing? Maybe Llewellyn’s have some random books on that lol >Picrel reference of some random book there exist magick of mermaids or something for your kids lol >>19532 Maybe magick its just psychodrama with hypnosis, method-acting, trance, confusion, drugs, cut-ups and placebo but if it works, it works. Thelema turn the thing more into religion and mysticism. The HGA (or high self or tulpa or call the way you want) can be a second help during the making up of rituals. The abyss sound more like a deppresion but in thelema is a form of ego-death. >>19514 The Golden Dawn actually did chaos magick they mixed up yoga, tarot, chinese, and western and asian ideas and techniques, history and mysticism into a pseudo-masonic heterodox magic lodge they experimented a lot try what works. Others groups like Fraternitas Saturni or UR group did the same.

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Anonymous 08/27/2025 (Wed) 21:04:02 No. 14567 [Reply] [Last]
this thread will be me trying to research and create a real cognito hazard or something as close to it as I can. I want it to be fairly compact (so at most a video like in, "The Ring") yet deliver profound and long-lasting effects when processed by the mind. Right now, I can think of a few things, like the effects of stimuli (colour pshyology, Bouba/kiki effect, infrasound ghost frequency uncanney valley effect) and actual messages/ideas like in memetics or general psychology stuff. This is all my own uneducated understanding. will think about it more and post what i thought of.
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I dont remember if this is the one but there is a picture perfect info hazard example in the SCP verse where knowing about it makes it reality for you. potential trigger warning if you are scared of death/suffering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBku4gkMfY
>>18227 actually, this could be like a basilisk that pushes for the creation of physical immortality
Just a recent insight note. I was looking at the carpet absently and saw an image relevant to recent personal happenings, and then I tried to change it by thinkink of other things because I have done this before, I think it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

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WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED WITH MAGIC? Anonymous 02/02/2025 (Sun) 00:55:15 No. 6314 [Reply] [Last]
Personally: >cured multiple chronic health issues that were plaguing me before I started magic >learned to manipulate my moods and thoughts at will with energy manipulation, curing my chronic depression >can prevent all illnesses and physical maladies in myself so long as I catch them early >developed the skill to consistently hex public figures and corporations, for my own fun and satisfaction >secured a relaxing job where I barely have to do anything >can manipulate the astral version of events to cause seemingly inescapable problems to immediately vanish like magic lol >astral perception lets me know the general spirit of incoming events and the general nature of people I'm talking to >no longer have any nightmares or bad dreams since astral combat and self-defense techniques have been ingrained into my subconscious >much easier to talk with people since I can just lace my words and aura with energetic intent to transmit my ideas and make my speech more potent
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>>18609 Aww. You won at life Anon!
>>18609 YOU WILL NEVER BE A WIZARD! EVERYONE WHO ISN’T A WIZARD IS INFESTED WITH PARASITES! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>18705 > Aww. You won at life Anon! I'm alive, so I won. The existence of her is nice, but my life doesn't intrinsically change through her existence. It's just form. I don't know why she's attracted to me and I don't care. It's nice to feel her soft skin. >>18799 Don't know what parasites are. It's all just exchange and changing of form. Not judging - even judgement - from my experience makes life awesome. I love you all. Happy to have found this place. Fuck you all.

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List of all possible human experiences Anonymous 10/10/2025 (Fri) 18:52:47 No. 18767 [Reply]
I have this obsession with the boundaries of the human experience and hope someone creates a website dedicated to cataloguing all possible experiences....for now I got an iceberg of human experiences...pic-related. If you have more to add, list them below.
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other SS difficulty: >longest time in prison isolation (pic related, formerly) >Los Frikis de Cuba (self-inoculated HIV+\AIDS blood to go a sanatorium and not die in hunger ,during a crisis period 0 >surviving more than one genocide >becoming a bishop of a fringe, obscure church you joined as an adult convert >FBI most wanted + faking your death in a country wherein you're already a Joe Doe + being an international deadbeat dad >north korean top 1% Elite >member of a korea Chaebol, or japanese Zaibatsu >member of the top Saudi royalty circles >eldest son of a Chabad dynasty, or FLDS cult (leader's eldest son)
>>18767 >actually making this monstrosity of an iceberg Got me a good chuckle
>>18784 So this is what Gnosticism is about? Surely there must be a better way.

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Magick and hypnosis? Anonymous 08/27/2025 (Wed) 05:39:38 No. 14530 [Reply]
I have spent years of my life and now months even more intensely reading books on ceremonial magic, occultism and mysticism and their methods, ethos, theory and techniques. I practiced as much as I could, ignoring the subject of initiations as it was more a factor of symbolism and cultism than something useful. I went from pseudosciences to science and from tantra to crowley sex magick even taoist ideas from chi to golden dawn and traditional Jewish kabbalism to hermetic Christian kabbalah and a traditional Indian chakra system (I tried hard to avoid theosophy, new age, ariosophy ideas and new thought but I ended up reading several authors and even evola) also religious mysticism (christians, sufi, etc) and academic shamanistic studies and even yogas. I feel somewhere between a functional magician in certain periods and an armchair magician in other periods but in the long run I got disappointed and failed to see anything magical like some sensationalist authors like crowley with the HGA (although I had a freaking panic attack with something that sounds alien or angelic to my experience) or bardon or others but still weird thing happened. although mysticism did give me pure psychosomatic-mystical experiences magic and rituals not so much alike. I recently started reading Prometheus rising sometimes i ask myself if its not a secret brainwash guide of the MK-U Glowies and RAW and Timothy know something and other books and ended up by fate reading about hypnosis. It feels so weird but many of the mystical techniques, theory and rituals I learned just clicked with hypnosis techniques so fucking fast, I dare say I went into a trance between mindfulness, focus and tranquility very quickly combining the techniques I learned with hypnosis and modern neuro-studies. >also And something that left me in shock, I was consulting history books about the origins of hypnosis and later syncronicity? of orthodox and heterodox masonic orders as well as their relationship to the magic lodges and... the influence of mesmer is very obvious. I begin to have the strange belief that the western esotericism was only in principle a kind of vitalism-mysticism-spiritism that began with hypnosis and theater like McDojos although I do not know if I could say the same of the PGM or other old grimories (except that the shamans and pagans who made ceremonial mix up of gods are not very different but in these books trance is a part of the threatise) It is as if everything makes sense now, a fucking occult key, I am perplexed.
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>>16615 interesting.
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>>14530 I was watching some chi kung, qi gong, or whatever it's called, exercises of energy. I also saw a Chinese master who looked like a buddhist monk explaining the subject to a Westerner, although the language barrier made his explanations a little clumsy; he admitted that he didn't speak English very well. At one point in the conversation, the monk said that when you feel the chi at a certain point, you manage to let yourself flow through the movements as if your mind were controlling them, which is something they seek to achieve through martial arts and repetition. Qi gong energy hands are the same as magnetic hands. I find it funny to see people on the internet surprised by the magnetic-energy-force effect in hands, although of course the hypnosis model rejects the idea of cosmic or internal energy like the Chinese believe. I have been experimenting with hypnosis, and I have a theory that this idea of flow in psychology and the Chinese master's concept are the same as the ideomotor effect of hypnosis. The master describes it as the mind over the body or even as possession, which is exactly what I felt when experimenting with hypnosis. Several chi kung qi gong exercises are the same as somatic exercises and even have a suggestive and relaxing effect to activate the vagus nerve and parasympathetic nervous system (I believe that the heat and light of the sun further enhances the feeling of energy.) to acquire a kind of body awareness, which I believe (this) affects the suggestive state of the mind over the body. >experimenting today Today I achieved a light progressive relaxation of the body, placed my legs pointing the sky in a wall, and I think I entered a deep state of relaxation along with a hypnotic mindset. Although I didn't achieve visualizations, it felt like sleeping but I was very aware of my surroundings. I think it was a bit similar to when I meditated with kasina and got too relaxed. The idea of jhana comes close, although for me it was a state of focused attention and relaxation, as if my ears had stopped hearing the sounds around me but I was awake, the same thing happened to me one day while practicing Vipassana. It was fun. This book >>16579 have some nice guides with focused-meditation-hypnosis on relaxation and trance-hypnosis for visualizations and other things: although I haven't yet read about the ideas on correspondences and so on, I'm not sure if I'll be able to achieve anything if I have apanthesia. >Tattwas I read somewhere that training with tattwas trains visualization, although the book itself has a practice. I wasn't able to visualize with the kasinas back in time while i do buddhist techniques, although I did have a temporary retinal burn while practicing, which is typical for meditation with closed eyes lol >Also I haven't yet acquired the ability to enter a deep trance to achieve an advanced state of visualization, although doing hypnosis when I wake up and go to sleep has become very relaxing and has led me to start having interesting dreams. Today, before waking up, I was in a kind of nightmare panic situation, and strangely, I felt in control and just repeated one of the CBT model practices instinctively: “Relax, relax.” I relaxed a lot and woke up from the dream. It was fun. I wonder if this could be considered a stage of some kind of dream-sleep yoga, but I became very aware of the dream. However, I believe that if I can have dreams, I can visualize things; I just need to enter a deeper trance.
>>14530 Well, I'm still here. I learned, felt, and saw amazing and wonderful things through hypnosis, meditation, and magick. and I still have a lot more to learn Thanks you very much to all anons. >Also Here's a gift, take my book about Scientific Self-Hypnosis CBT model, maybe it can help you. All humans have the right to be happy, to have love, and to have peace. Good luck with your life journey and sleep well. >Be more human every day until the end of times, every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better and more human.

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