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Renouncing Lust Thread #1 Anonymous 11/16/2023 (Thu) 10:49:09 No. 85 [Reply] [Last]
Continuation of this 8kun thread: https://archive.is/q0OW6 1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread. 2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread. 3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged! 4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes. For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with. Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism. Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also. Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.
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>>20435 If you have no experience in it, take judo classes. It'll force you to interact physically with people in a non-sexual way. Once you've learned how to fall, whenever your urges try to take over, throw yourself on the floor suddenly to force your judo reflexes to activate. That will break the behavioral pattern because it'll hurt unless your body react properly. Run outside, remove yourself from the location where your "kinks" or whatever can manifest. Expose yourself to the elements. Walk outside in the cold. Get your senses to activate on basic needs instead. Take walks in the dark (with no phone), at least in this situation you have to use your imagination. Use whatever you need to avoid and replace the thing causing problems to rewire your brain.
>>20436 Humiliation kink even though im decently sized and im a bigger dude on average. Maybe has to do with my past history of always losing in fights and just being short on self respect in general.
>>20435 Failed on the 5th day. Pledging a week again.

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Disclosure: The Capital of Reality Labaratory Prof. Zhan Beel 10/25/2025 (Sat) 19:40:01 No. 19998 [Reply] [Last]
Title: Cross‑Torsion Pressure as a Candidate Mechanism for Vacuum Modulation Abstract: This document records a conceptual discovery: the crossing of torsional fields may create a measurable pressure term capable of influencing vacuum energy density. The idea arose from private experimentation and is presented here as a reproducible hypothesis. Background: Current physics treats torsion in the Einstein–Cartan extension of relativity, but the observable magnitude is predicted to be extremely small. The hypothesis presented here suggests that intersecting torsion domains could amplify local spin‑density coupling. Hypothesis: Cross‑torsion pressure between non‑parallel spin domains modifies local curvature, producing an effective stress–energy contribution that could appear as additional mass density or negative pressure. Predictions and Possible Tests: 1. Minute deviations in Casimir‑type vacuum pressure when two rotating magnetic or acoustic lattices intersect. 2. Small gravitational anomalies in high‑spin plasmas. 3. Phase‑dependent modulation of vacuum birefringence in precision optical cavities.

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>>21446 the other the law then system can be we dont have too thats where they dont know you either get it there or you dont its duress if they do its not shame horney thats the layers of their cunning
>>21447 cant force one no just leave fuck off

Comet 3I/ATLAS Anonymous 09/16/2025 (Tue) 20:14:08 No. 15743 [Reply]
https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/comets/3i-atlas/ A comet called 3I/Atlas is approaching. An Israeli named Avi Loeb claims its behaviour suggests it's an alien technology, because it changes its route actively, has its own light source and emits methane gas. This mystic has also made claims in relation to this object: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syarEz5x41Y This guy in Panama filmed a meteor and claims to have found a small stone, from which a "being" is growing. Further postings show him give one such slimy thing to Chinese agents, after which he's forced to say the whole thing is a hoax because making wild claims about aliens is illegal in Panama. https://www.tiktok.com/@kinpanama https://x.com/jamiesfocus/status/1966736346480799850 Crashsite/sample: https://www.tiktok.com/@kinpanama/video/7546473509640326406 Creature growing out of it:

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Why did I forget this thing. New agers or whatever are still talking about it like crazy, someone now said it's >a space station with 6 million draco soldiers on it Why does the perception vary so greatly.
>>20421 >6 >million >draco >soldiers Hahahahaha New Agers are the best. Can't wait for them to turn up on /fringe/
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Servitor creation made easy Anonymous 07/05/2025 (Sat) 12:58:06 No. 12761 [Reply]
How to create a personal, non-shareable servitor for carrying out tasks at your command Read the full instruction before beginning What you need: Some free time A peaceful space you can use alone A piece of paper A pen or other drawing material A place where you can safely burn the paper A means to light the fire Optional but preferred: Herbs of your choice to represent the elements you want to include Vegetable oil Sit down in a calm place where you are not disturbed by anything, wear comfortable clothes and shut out/off sources of sound like electronic devices or other noise from outside, by closing windows or doors. Make sure you won't be disturbed during the process, at all. You can not take a break or stop halfway, that will cause a failure and possible unknown effects.

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Why is this thread down here? I mean, it's a bit of a folkloric method in my opinion, but let's talk about servitor experienced.
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First time a Muse Avatar gets her own sigil. Choose your own complexity for activation. I'd recommend drawing it on paper and burning it for easiest activation if you don't know how to focus energy on something. Add whatever components you prefer to make it stronger. Drawing by hand means you need to interpret the sigil in some way, and that's how it becomes your own creation. This is a template. <what is this? It's a sigil for creating an avatar which has the ability to channel the powers of an Arch Angel/Vampire, divine powers and immortality. It's a method which places this ability in its own form outside of yourself, so your own body and mind isn't altered. Then you channel from her as with a physical doll. >what it isn't It's NOT an egregore or some shared thing which multiple people can use. You create your own avatar and use it yourself with no connection to anyone else. <Note: if you alter the sigil itself, any effects this creates is on yourself What I mean by "adding components" means as by the OP using oil or herbs when burning it etc. The sigil needs to be replicated to the best or your ability for the stated effect.
After continually reading daily updates on the Ukraine situation and watching war bloggers on youtube, I recently saw an energy form being described which seemed to indicate a deciding area of the conflict. After some divination and research via web connected AI, I concluded that artillery coordination will be the deciding factor in the coming 6 months onwards. To control the situation, I decided to create a servitor specialized in this field. I realized intelligence will be very important here, so I started gathering materials to gain an understanding of how the two fields of artillery and intelligence will work in conjunction. I have here attached the documents I used. I am making this post to give the reader an idea of what may be necessary to create a well tuned servitor for anything - you need to do proper research until you can grasp and internalize the area you want the servitor to function within. The actual creation process is pretty straight forward and it's not necessary to describe it more. After formation and training, I was able to assume control of the energy form in around 30 minutes, using this servitor.

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the world of paranormal math , before numerolgy. Anonymous 10/17/2025 (Fri) 09:19:01 No. 19693 [Reply]
modern numerology while very interesting (and already having a general here 2w2) , is mainly focused on one step of math , math can be descried as being inherently the representation of the technical non magical aspects of like , being inherently heavily correlated to the magical or some neutral mode of logic , it does not matter , numerology is the study of the logic after math is completed and in a way its the art of the few types of numerical logic that math doesn't cover. its also not what we are looking today , I don't want to do a cryptotheism, I don't want to put down numerology down , I just see it as overly risky and raw , this is more about trying to interact with math itself in a paranormal way.
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>>19693 >>19694 I think that a part of it , is that the dust bunny psi. its missing the reason it exists in the first place. because this was the second best example , to explain. I can't just explain another weird math concept. its something that makes more sence in its relation to a use. but I can't explain the use. I guess the best way to put it , is interacting with a matematical object , without changing its objective cualities , but it might just feel like me imagining a coin , then turning it into ronald MacDonald and then telling you that clown is still a coin trust me. a lot of people would find that completely retarded.
>>19785 ignore the bust bunny psi stuff , is just how I call the mist trick. forgot to change that part back on.
>>19693 let me go with another simple example. paranormal math isn't always paranormal stuff centered around math , but also math stuff centered around the paranormal. lets call this a white mirror. first the white mirror needs a method of interaction , that changes something about it. this mirror of course glimses to other places , how the glimpsing works and how it looks I would leave too you. this mirror could be any shape , that is also made out of smaller examples of itself , please make it finite. you then just need to represent some kind of fate situation via using some kind of representation of this small shapes. EX. pick the first half and then after every hour reduce the number to 1. with stuff like this you are meant to represent and interact with fate. use whatever movement method you have and see in the mirror , this should give you some talk about how that probability turned out.

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Question Thread #3 Anonymous 05/19/2025 (Mon) 00:13:26 No. 10878 [Reply] [Last]
Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.
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>>19775 The pumpkins are gone.
>>19787 oh rith Happy Birthday gamergatechan
>>18341 Been thinking about what you said here. You seem to be the most legit to be honest. I trust what you said. Your diagnosis of what’s the problem and what the solution you said is. And I would trust in your ability to force it open. I know you’re hesitant so what can I do on my end to convince you the force it open.

Total Mara Death Anonymous 02/13/2025 (Thu) 22:19:14 No. 6663 [Reply] [Last]
Kill Mara. Behead Mara. Roundhouse kick Mara into the concrete. Slam dunk Mara into the trashcan. Crucify Mara. Defecate in Mara's food. Launch Mara into the sun. Stir fry Mara in a wok. Toss Mara into an active volcano. Urinate into Mara's gas tank. Judo throw Mara into a wood chipper. Twist Mara's head off. Karate chop Mara in half. Curb stomp Mara. Trap Mara in quicksand. Crush Mara in the trash compactor. Liquefy Mara in a vat of acid. Eat Mara. Dissect Mara. Exterminate Mara in the gas chamber. Stomp Mara's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Mara in the oven. Lobotomize Mara. Drown Mara in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Mara with a ray gun. Kick Mara down the stairs. Feed Mara to alligators. Slice Mara with a katana. The Four Anti-Mara Truths I. Suffering is inseparable from existence. II. Craving is the root cause of suffering. III. Suffering can be ended by ending craving. IV. There is a path to ending craving and suffering. ᛋ drive.google.com/file/d/1YxZS4v8-jlj-2CfpfDMPyk_6J0wqQBe_/view ᛋ buddhanet.net/audio-lectures.htm
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The war may have been lost, but the righteous battle rages on in the streets...and The Net! In this new cyberpunk future, The Führer of the past is now The Cyber Führer, and instead of The Final Solution, he brings you The Cyber Solution! For the TRUE enemy has finally been revealed, and it is an insane and diabolic deva (god), playing ghost in the machine, possessing people, and facilitating all sorts of Low Life activities to further its unhinged plan for Mankind! As before, the cultists known as Jews/Zionists, some knowingly in service to this dark god and some not, are up to the same old tricks...but this time in cyberspace! The cyberpunks of the world must now unite to stand against evil and commit the biggest holocaust the planet has ever seen...The Cybercaust! So grab your cyberdecks, strap in, and spread THE W0RD choombas! Fourth & Final High Tech Reich here we come! 7074L M4R4 D347H --- ᛝ THE W0RD ᛝ 卍 The Aryan Teaching 卐 https://8chan.se/x/res/314.html ᛋ The Imperial Archive ᛋ https://gab.com/OvermanZ/posts/113825047203899860
Why can't you talk about Theravada Buddhism properly????
I read that the Buddhist adepts who choose to stick around and help liberate others until the end of all suffering, are implicitly agreeing to stay here for eternity because the existence of suffering is eternal. Is this accurate?

Anonymous 05/24/2023 (Wed) 14:48:25 No. 9 [Reply] [Last]
Why fringe is dead. Come back pls
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Kameraden and Comrades. National Socialism and Communism failed /fringe/ once again. It is time for the Invisible Hand of the Free Market to return!
never dead just sleepin

A scientific approach to understanding magic Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:21:30 No. 9671 [Reply] [Last]
In this thread, let's analyze our experiences and design experiments to glean more useful insights. I'm no materialist or mundane. I've had my fair share of successful spells, initiation, and spirit communication. But the how and why is always very fuzzy because at the base of it all, consciousness seems to be the medium us fish swim in and can never truly study properly. I've determined three distinct possible root mechanisms for manifestation that will require carefully designed experiments to study. These are not the only root mechanisms there are, but I think every other can be included in one of them for now, or considered equivalent to one of them in practical terms. We can look for a more fine-grained approach as we move forward, but feel free to contribute if you think something falls outside what these cover: - Retro-causation: it was going to happen anyway, but only if the spell is cast. This opens up another line of research (timelines, etc.). - Probability influence: it was probable enough, or far enough in the future for a sort of butterfly effect to make it happen from whatever state the world was in when the spell was cast. - Collective unconscious communication: similar to probability influence, but only actions mediated by people or living beings change, with their subconscious cooperation. These three possibilities can overlap, but the key aspect is that they can also be exclusive. Those exclusive cases are what we should look for in order to design experiments that prove or disprove them. These are hypotheses from which to start a systematic study of practical enchantment, not a definitive theory. My goal with this thread is proper experimentation. Hands-on magical practice, not idle speculation. Although discussion is welcome.
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>>19703 Why did you wait five months to post this?
>>19706 No waiting involved, I simply remembered this thread and visited la~
>>19707 How's your home board? How are you?

Carnaval music is santeria IRL you can do at home Anonymous 10/15/2025 (Wed) 19:17:15 No. 19667 [Reply]
Hey hey hey fringe Wizard! I have something for you, but you have to promise not to hurt the spirits during santeria, ok Mr. Wizard? It's that time of the year when you can't hide real magik from the humans anymore! I present you out ritual, a santeria ritual so strong, spirits will talk to you. Here's volume 1: https://spotify.link/0TkrgukDuXb And here's volume 2 https://spotify.link/BJcQgVpDuXb

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The Arena Anonymous 02/27/2025 (Thu) 16:58:50 No. 7217 [Reply] [Last]
Focused discussions & arguments. Keeping it within the topic range of /fringe/, this thread is meant for controversial topics or discussions which may lead to heated arguments. If you feel your post may initiate such an exchange, bring it to the Arena.
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>>19515 >HGA No jokin look like advanced and ritualistic tulpa forcing lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jzykr80Q_Y&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD Theres the book agathodaemon to that ritualistic way. Even Prometheus Rising in circuit 6 or 7 Meta-programing have some methods. Your mind is your garden. https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychonautReadingClub/comments/1oif6w/prometheus_rising_chapter_6_discussion_the/
>>19514 The point of Chapman is that he tell you some important facts about all the bluff from the get go. All magick simply boils down to that, essentially: Do things with intent to have an experience, and expect results. He does have some personal flavors (Holy Guardian Angel, The Abyss Experience as you pointed out), but the foundation is lay out to make sense of those things. Chapman is a good as post-chaos magic material gets, and frankly, is there anything else to know? Best approach to Magic and manifestation is reverse engineering the process and understanding how things works at the bare essence. Stripping out the metaphors and window dressing (methods, esoteric jargon, etc), and seeing how things works by themselves. It's can also extend to a large extreme in a process of reverse engineering reality in itself. At the long run. For example, let say two people aim for the same goal, one uses visualization, the other a sigil, both get the same results, in same amounts and quality: Why is that? That sort of deduction and inquisitive approach to magic pays large dividends. This is also what i mean that getting carried away in the details instead of the big picture (in the optional expression instead of the mechanics) is asking for trouble, or at very least, wasting your time, which is also why pathetic attempts at magick sales like the user above pointed out are so useless: They miss the forest for the trees. Every newbie should knew from the get go that magic is (or at least can be) as simple as making a toast or riding a bike. Is a mechanical as that, and the deep, personal expression of it comes more easily and is more fun knowing them in their essence. And it's also less frustrating to experiment with if you have a solid framework to operate on.
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>>19289 >That's an actual thing? Maybe Llewellyn’s have some random books on that lol >Picrel reference of some random book there exist magick of mermaids or something for your kids lol >>19532 Maybe magick its just psychodrama with hypnosis, method-acting, trance, confusion, drugs, cut-ups and placebo but if it works, it works. Thelema turn the thing more into religion and mysticism. The HGA (or high self or tulpa or call the way you want) can be a second help during the making up of rituals. The abyss sound more like a deppresion but in thelema is a form of ego-death. >>19514 The Golden Dawn actually did chaos magick they mixed up yoga, tarot, chinese, and western and asian ideas and techniques, history and mysticism into a pseudo-masonic heterodox magic lodge they experimented a lot try what works. Others groups like Fraternitas Saturni or UR group did the same.

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List of all possible human experiences Anonymous 10/10/2025 (Fri) 18:52:47 No. 18767 [Reply]
I have this obsession with the boundaries of the human experience and hope someone creates a website dedicated to cataloguing all possible experiences....for now I got an iceberg of human experiences...pic-related. If you have more to add, list them below.
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other SS difficulty: >longest time in prison isolation (pic related, formerly) >Los Frikis de Cuba (self-inoculated HIV+\AIDS blood to go a sanatorium and not die in hunger ,during a crisis period 0 >surviving more than one genocide >becoming a bishop of a fringe, obscure church you joined as an adult convert >FBI most wanted + faking your death in a country wherein you're already a Joe Doe + being an international deadbeat dad >north korean top 1% Elite >member of a korea Chaebol, or japanese Zaibatsu >member of the top Saudi royalty circles >eldest son of a Chabad dynasty, or FLDS cult (leader's eldest son)
>>18767 >actually making this monstrosity of an iceberg Got me a good chuckle
>>18784 So this is what Gnosticism is about? Surely there must be a better way.

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Magick and hypnosis? Anonymous 08/27/2025 (Wed) 05:39:38 No. 14530 [Reply]
I have spent years of my life and now months even more intensely reading books on ceremonial magic, occultism and mysticism and their methods, ethos, theory and techniques. I practiced as much as I could, ignoring the subject of initiations as it was more a factor of symbolism and cultism than something useful. I went from pseudosciences to science and from tantra to crowley sex magick even taoist ideas from chi to golden dawn and traditional Jewish kabbalism to hermetic Christian kabbalah and a traditional Indian chakra system (I tried hard to avoid theosophy, new age, ariosophy ideas and new thought but I ended up reading several authors and even evola) also religious mysticism (christians, sufi, etc) and academic shamanistic studies and even yogas. I feel somewhere between a functional magician in certain periods and an armchair magician in other periods but in the long run I got disappointed and failed to see anything magical like some sensationalist authors like crowley with the HGA (although I had a freaking panic attack with something that sounds alien or angelic to my experience) or bardon or others but still weird thing happened. although mysticism did give me pure psychosomatic-mystical experiences magic and rituals not so much alike. I recently started reading Prometheus rising sometimes i ask myself if its not a secret brainwash guide of the MK-U Glowies and RAW and Timothy know something and other books and ended up by fate reading about hypnosis. It feels so weird but many of the mystical techniques, theory and rituals I learned just clicked with hypnosis techniques so fucking fast, I dare say I went into a trance between mindfulness, focus and tranquility very quickly combining the techniques I learned with hypnosis and modern neuro-studies. >also And something that left me in shock, I was consulting history books about the origins of hypnosis and later syncronicity? of orthodox and heterodox masonic orders as well as their relationship to the magic lodges and... the influence of mesmer is very obvious. I begin to have the strange belief that the western esotericism was only in principle a kind of vitalism-mysticism-spiritism that began with hypnosis and theater like McDojos although I do not know if I could say the same of the PGM or other old grimories (except that the shamans and pagans who made ceremonial mix up of gods are not very different but in these books trance is a part of the threatise) It is as if everything makes sense now, a fucking occult key, I am perplexed.
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>>16615 interesting.
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>>14530 I was watching some chi kung, qi gong, or whatever it's called, exercises of energy. I also saw a Chinese master who looked like a buddhist monk explaining the subject to a Westerner, although the language barrier made his explanations a little clumsy; he admitted that he didn't speak English very well. At one point in the conversation, the monk said that when you feel the chi at a certain point, you manage to let yourself flow through the movements as if your mind were controlling them, which is something they seek to achieve through martial arts and repetition. Qi gong energy hands are the same as magnetic hands. I find it funny to see people on the internet surprised by the magnetic-energy-force effect in hands, although of course the hypnosis model rejects the idea of cosmic or internal energy like the Chinese believe. I have been experimenting with hypnosis, and I have a theory that this idea of flow in psychology and the Chinese master's concept are the same as the ideomotor effect of hypnosis. The master describes it as the mind over the body or even as possession, which is exactly what I felt when experimenting with hypnosis. Several chi kung qi gong exercises are the same as somatic exercises and even have a suggestive and relaxing effect to activate the vagus nerve and parasympathetic nervous system (I believe that the heat and light of the sun further enhances the feeling of energy.) to acquire a kind of body awareness, which I believe (this) affects the suggestive state of the mind over the body. >experimenting today Today I achieved a light progressive relaxation of the body, placed my legs pointing the sky in a wall, and I think I entered a deep state of relaxation along with a hypnotic mindset. Although I didn't achieve visualizations, it felt like sleeping but I was very aware of my surroundings. I think it was a bit similar to when I meditated with kasina and got too relaxed. The idea of jhana comes close, although for me it was a state of focused attention and relaxation, as if my ears had stopped hearing the sounds around me but I was awake, the same thing happened to me one day while practicing Vipassana. It was fun. This book >>16579 have some nice guides with focused-meditation-hypnosis on relaxation and trance-hypnosis for visualizations and other things: although I haven't yet read about the ideas on correspondences and so on, I'm not sure if I'll be able to achieve anything if I have apanthesia. >Tattwas I read somewhere that training with tattwas trains visualization, although the book itself has a practice. I wasn't able to visualize with the kasinas back in time while i do buddhist techniques, although I did have a temporary retinal burn while practicing, which is typical for meditation with closed eyes lol >Also I haven't yet acquired the ability to enter a deep trance to achieve an advanced state of visualization, although doing hypnosis when I wake up and go to sleep has become very relaxing and has led me to start having interesting dreams. Today, before waking up, I was in a kind of nightmare panic situation, and strangely, I felt in control and just repeated one of the CBT model practices instinctively: “Relax, relax.” I relaxed a lot and woke up from the dream. It was fun. I wonder if this could be considered a stage of some kind of dream-sleep yoga, but I became very aware of the dream. However, I believe that if I can have dreams, I can visualize things; I just need to enter a deeper trance.
>>14530 Well, I'm still here. I learned, felt, and saw amazing and wonderful things through hypnosis, meditation, and magick. and I still have a lot more to learn Thanks you very much to all anons. >Also Here's a gift, take my book about Scientific Self-Hypnosis CBT model, maybe it can help you. All humans have the right to be happy, to have love, and to have peace. Good luck with your life journey and sleep well. >Be more human every day until the end of times, every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better and more human.

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Anonymous 10/02/2025 (Thu) 00:26:12 No. 18306 [Reply]
Trump is the Beast >Choosing between the "Lamb" and the "Beast" refers to a spiritual decision, prominent in the Book of Revelation, to follow either the sacrificial, meek nature of Christ (the Lamb) or the deceptive, authoritative, and oppressive nature of the Antichrist and his system (the Beast). The Lamb symbolizes purity, humility, and a self-sacrificial life, while the Beast represents cunning, cruelty, arrogance, and a demand for worship and allegiance. The choice ultimately depends on one's loyalty, with the Lamb representing allegiance to God and the Beast representing allegiance to worldly powers and ideologies. >And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered before the world was made. It is a pure and sinless Lamb bred with the smallest penis possible and pale white in skin color. That is the true nature of reality.
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It is a pure and sinless Lamb bred with the smallest penis possible and pale white in skin color. That is the true nature of reality
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>>18306 Converge!

Reality creation 04/06/2025 (Sun) 13:13:13 No. 8412 [Reply]
The topic was brought up, and it's relevant and something I have been thinking about myself for some time, but mostly in terms of avoiding it, so that I don't accidentally the whole creation and it turns very bad. Earlier I saw some green/grey little man posting on /int/ about solving the INCEL problem by introducing more genders. He ("It"?) suggested creating 18146 genders, which would be enough so that no one in a population ends up without a mate. After seeing how the "skinny bob" aliens categorize their research in "ranges", so that it's not a field, but you research a "range", I thought, maybe the problem can instead be solved by creating reality not as dualistic, but as a range of floating values. Then it wouldn't be just plus or minus, good or evil, and so on, but it would be a graph. Coordinate systems are already used to represent dualistic realities by measuring things on a scale of positivity vs negativity, so the leap to making a reality that is "graphical" per default isn't all that farfetched. 2 Process I used my astral contacts and minions to set up a ritual for the creation of a safe research space. Details will be left out for integrity, but in short it involved a servitor (witch) arranging 6 minions in a circle, and the hiring of a professional priestess for the role of leading the session. The purpose of the created magic circle, is to instantly de-manifest any trash energy which appears in its vicinity. This will prevent unstable creations from spreading, and the issue of accidentally creation negative karma, is solved. When done, I set up myself in astral manifestation on a meditation platform in the space, and while I let my witch servitor do the work by my orders. I went about this according to the idea that things are going to be "different, but not unrelatable" when something is created based on completely new laws, so they would at least somewhat look and feel like things I already know of. I had her throw random idea and emotions into the magic circle, while recording what took place as they were dissolved. After a while, more sustainable forms started appearing, even if they dissolved after less than a second. This went on for a while, until eventually a "click" was heard, and a round flat shape of "nothing" appeared in a location where, in my astral vision, nothing had been before. So a new "nothing" was created. This, I have learned, is the basis of creation, to manifest a standard for "nothing", or the zero. If you don't know the nature of "nothing", you also can't create "something."
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>>8413 I thought I had a thread for this but whatevs. Close enough. I'm using a similar method as this here, for creating a magic type via the creation of an astral artifact, a knife. I've noticed that there are certain energy types which can subdue negative beings and block them completely, including subduing and controlling negative people and thoughts, by itself being massively negative. I've interacted with a person who worked for a Christian organization, and everyone said they could feel God work through him, and he did have a strong kind of authority present when just seeing him. But I realized it was all fanatical and very evil energy, it just seemed to be powerful because it made people shut up, silencing their thinking and making them listen to him. It seemed he developed this by reading the bible with bad intent and using a form of structured and intentional heresy (although I don't like that word, it's been used in the wrong places, maybe by the very people who practice this). But the material effect was there, so I wondered if this can be reproduced. I've also seen the effect on people in other situations, where certain events relating to illness would be able to actually worry them or effect their thinking from the mere presence of it, which again seemed to show how evil thinking can be subdued and controlled by a greater and more ruthless evil, in this case an illness demon which shows no mercy at all.
>>17634 I was able to isolate an energy type and structure on the kabbalah tree to lock down on it in a conventional manner with enough accuracy that it would form, by referring only to Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew, the kind of extreme kabbalism I've gotten into recently. In short (and translated) "God created" so "created" refers to either Yesod/Yetzirah or Beriah, depending on if he created from something or from nothing. Then we have "heaven and earth", where earth is malkuth, so both the lowest and whatever is above was created, this shows that they were both created at once, with no separation between them. The order if used, indicates that Malkuth was created from the heavens, so then malkuth, earth, exists in the heavens, and then that means the heavens descended into the earth and became earth/malkuth. With this reading, Ein Sof, the source which is eternal, is present in the lowest sefirot, malkuth as well, and possibly eternal. That explains why the lowest kind of energy can have the same effect as God himself in his highest original state, and why people reading the bible from a satanic perspective and motivation can still subdue evil just the same. So this would be the basis of the artifact to manifest and use as the object to later channel this force from. And that is what I did.
>>17635 Following this I made some initial test project which I won't detail, about trying to change timelines to create a new type of air/space craft using this kind of understanding, which would create another possible technology jump for Earth. This seemed to work out, so I moved on to the next step. Here I decided to go back to check the school of magic for the corresponding magic path, and found one I hadn't looked at before, called black circle magic. Its entry requirement was ridiculous: level 30. For comparison the Bone Witch who accidentally inspired all of the widespread secret societies in the USA, including Skulls and Bones where CIA came from, she is level 16 and hasn't tried getting a higher standard by studying because it's too much work. I found that there is an loophole of sorts in artifact creation, where a perfect combination can create an "immortal artifact" which is instantly level -80, that is a negative level because it's external magic, but the entry requirements are only there for the energy level needed to finish the entry test, so negative is also fine. The same thing works for extremely well tuned herbal potions, which can be treated as a "consumed artifact" and also reach level minus 80 for whoever drank it. So by that although I don't have regular level 30 I can still enter this path, and I did. The entry procedure was among the freakiers: The stairs up to the test room just kept going and were very dark and narrow, followed by a weird tunnel-like corridor which seemed to just get narrower as it proceeded. The test itself involved an interview about my motivations. After this I was told to choose an artifact to represent my channelling of the path, where I chose a small knife. I was then given the main grimoire for the path for free, because apparently almost no one does this path so they didn't mind giving it, or it was just because it's high level and they give it for that reason. This is really something though. I just started reading this book over there in a study room, and the energy is unlike anything I've seen before, hard to even describe it. It feels like my brain was instantly rewired from just opening the book.

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Magic Discussion General Anonymous 08/08/2025 (Fri) 22:39:36 No. 13987 [Reply] [Last]
Previous thread >>12437 Use this thread to discuss any notable events, experiences, or thoughts related to your occult path that don't deserve their own thread. This thread we aim to discuss our ideas and thoughts about magic. Post topics here that you wish to gain feedback from other posters of this board! This thread is made for civil discussion! For arguments and other types of heated discussions please visit the Arena >>7217! This thread should facilitate open minded and productive discussions about anything occult or other types of fringe topics that does not have their own thread nor you wish to make a thread for!
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>>17749 Well wtf. I managed to trace the origin of this very toxic kind of mushroom, because I do recognize it and as I said not 100% of them are bad. They're from a descended planet. Apparently while planets can become immortal as 5D ascended, they can also become immortal as 2D descended planets, where they become a physical hellscape, and naturally the kind of people who come from there are going to be pretty bad...
>>17748 I think those are external or edge timelines of new Earth, it's been formed in many spheres inside spheres already. No one more gets into the middle aside from if someone already registered gets a parallel incarnation which is only staying on the edge of the planet seen from there (like at a grey research station south of Africa). Even what I saw of the center of society it's very steep out from the very peak. There are the immortal elders, and they are very concealed, they don't even interact with the world themselves but have servants who do all contacts for them, they don't watch tv or use the Internet or anything, they stay at 1800s level and obsess over ancient book collections and stuff, their way of life makes their timelines become different dimensions in themselves, so it's like they aren't physically in the world anymore. Just one step out from there and it's a competition for "standing" where they even said it's better for the new kids to stay at home and read books than trying to learn anything out in the world, because there is a greater risk of losing social standing by doing anything at all outside the house. If balanced right it's possible to get better standing by certain activities, where my personality does work positively here, such as studying language, martial arts, traditional dance and music, which are all things that give some slight increase. Just being a drunk or a whore if done in moderation is also giving a small acceptance bonus because it reduces the risk of someone acting out in a harmful way (they don't want serial killers or cannibals drawing attention to themselves by leaving disemboweled bodies in the alleys, for example). It's a constant social game, which those you mention are likely too low on the ranking to be aware of. That's how you can tell the difference. Those closer to the center don't interact with gangs or criminals at all. People are also able to meet them at vampire fan events masked to be just cosplay, so there are only "volunteers" involved, compared to what the lower ranks do.
filum novum >>17757

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