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Anonymous 08/18/2023 (Fri) 17:34:31 Id: 96676e No. 784 [Reply]
Is it true that the ancient Hebrew used in job for Satan's name is not a proper name but a title? It starts at 3:13 - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4-AwpkMuW4s
Yes, I believe it means something akin to the accuser, doubter, some title that means something akin to "one who stands against God". Which is essentially just a description of him in Job. I forgot the exact phrase. The later attribution of the Satan in Job to the Satan in the New Testament was only done by Jesus or later Jews. Like how the snake in the garden is seen as Satan, though not explicitly mentioned.

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Anonymous 08/20/2023 (Sun) 01:42:06 Id: c6cb8b No. 803 [Reply]
Sooooo... I've been told I'm spiritually detached, but religious is the way of thinking in the future, any of you can come up anything against the reasoning women willing and able to go through with abortion has psychopathic traits, and it is good thing, to the point there would be so many more criminals around social order couldn't be maintained the only thing I can think of is it will hasten God's judgment if outlawed, and that might be a good thing too
>>803 >the reasoning women willing and able to go through with abortion has psychopathic traits I think each woman will receive judgement after life >that might be a good thing too Final judgement will come but at is time, sooner or later
Speaking of psychopathic traits. Or that cluster of behavioral and or moral problems in general. I've always wondered if such people can truly go against who they are, or just destined to fall. Sure, some will genuinely work hard to seek change because they can. But what about the implications behind those that seem so... inherently evil, yet want to show God they're not, even though they will just do terrible things completely on a whim their whole life?

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Anonymous 08/14/2023 (Mon) 05:07:14 Id: 6dfabc No. 771 [Reply]
>>525 Someone isn't reading the Bible. Isaiah 11 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. You liars who keep lying about the identity of the missing tribes of Israel is why God ill save them themself and send our self rightouness sabbath breaking 10 commandmetn hating liars into hell
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See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.

Nancy's detransitioning Anonymous 06/18/2023 (Sun) 21:23:53 Id: c25218 No. 719 [Reply]
Nancy is no longer a trans woman, because evil leftist commies rejected her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6dHCDKzabw It seems transgender communities express undue obsession with political causes instead of well-being of their mentally ill members.

Anonymous 01/05/2023 (Thu) 08:04:31 Id: a39dc1 No. 239 [Reply]
Help me debunk this. >Blomberg starts in on the question of gospel authorship: It's important to acknowledge that strictly speaking, the gospels are anonymous. But the uniform testimony of the early church was that Matthew, also known as Levi, the tax-collector and one of the twelve disciples, was the author of the first gospel in the New Testament; that John Mark, a companion of Peter, was the author of the gospel we call Mark; and that Luke, known as Paul's 'beloved physician,' wrote both the gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles . . . There are no known competitors for [authorship of] these three gospels ... Apparently, it was just not in dispute.7 >Blomberg imagines that the whole delegation was polled, and that no one had any other guesses as to who wrote these gospels. But we don't have everyone's opinions. We are lucky to have what fragments we do that survived the efforts of Orthodox censors and heresiologists to stamp out all 'heretical' opinions. However, we do know of a few differing opinions because Tertullian, Justin Martyr, and others had to take the trouble to (try to) refute them. Marcion knew our Gospel of Luke in a shorter form, which he considered to be the original, and he did not identify it as the work of Luke. He may have imagined that Paul wrote that version. Also, though Blomberg does not see fit to mention it, Papias sought to account for apparent Marcionite elements in the Gospel of John by suggesting Marcion had worked as John's secretary and scribe and added his own ideas to the text, which it was somehow too late for John to root out.8 Similarly, some understood the gospel to be Gnostic (rightly, I think) and credited it to Cerinthus. Blomberg reasons that, had the gospel authorship ascriptions been artificial, better names would have been chosen. >[T]hese were unlikely characters ... Mark and Luke weren't even among the twelve disciples. Matthew was, but as a former hated tax collector, he would have been among the most infamous character next to Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus! Contrast this with what happened when the fanciful apocryphal gospels were written much later. People chose the names of well-known and exemplary figures to be their fictitious authors - Philip, Peter, Mary, James. Those names carried a lot more weight than the names of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. So to answer your question, there would not have been any reason to attribute authorship to these three less respected people if it weren't true.9 In fact, apocryphal (which only means 'not on the official list' for whatever reason) gospels are attributed to such luminaries as Bartholomew, Judas Iscariot, the prostitute Mary Magdalene, doubting Thomas, the heretical Basilides, the even more heretical Valentinus, Nicodemus, and the replacement Matthias. They didn't always go for the star names. > As for the names to whom the canonical gospels were ascribed, it is quite easy to provide an alternate and more natural explanation as to why we have two apostolic names and two sub-apostolic names, though we can bet neither Blomberg nor Strobel will like it very much. First, the initially anonymous gospel we call Matthew was clearly the early church's favorite, and sometimes it circulated without any individual's name, as in its redacted Hebrew and Aramaic versions known to the Church Fathers as the Gospel according to the Hebrews, the Gospel according to the Nazoreans, and the Gospel according to the Ebionites. There are more copies of Matthew that survive in manuscript than any of the other gospels, which means it was used more, much more. The reason for its popularity was its utility: it is framed as a new Christian Pentateuch, organizing Jesus' teaching into five great blocks of teaching, more or less topically. It had been written for the Jewish Christian missionaries of Antioch (in view under the characters of the eleven in Matthew 28, receiving the Great Commission) to use as a church manual. And it served that purpose very well. If your goal was to "disciple the nations," this was the book to use. My guess is that some editor tagged the gospel ' Matthew' based on a pun on the Greek word for 'disciple,' especially prominent in this gospel (e.g., 13:51-52; 28: 19): mathetes. Mark. and Luke are not organized so conveniently. If you have chosen Matthew as your standard, then Luke and Mark are going to suffer by comparison (though no one could deny their great value). And in the early days, before they were considered inspired scriptures, people felt they could make value judgments and rank the gospels. Matthew was the first tier, all by itself. Mark and Luke were placed on the second tier - 'deuterocanonical gospels' so to speak. And that is why these sub­ apostolic names were chosen for them (likely by Poly carp ).10 It is a way of damning them with only faint praise, but not damning them too severely at that. Insofar as they vary from Matthew, they are not quite apostolic. What about the very different John? (Blomberg admits it is quite different; it just doesn't mean anything to him. >They're all eyewitness reporting anyway!)11 It is so different from the others, one would expect it to be named for someone even farther from the apostles. And so it was. The opponents of the Gospel of John, who recognized its largely Gnostic character, claimed it was the work of the heretic Cerinthus. As Bultmann showed, the text has undergone quite a bit of refitting in order to build in some sacramental theology as well as traditionally futuristic eschatology.12 Gnostics rejected both, and so did 'John' originally, though such passages are now diluted by added material. Polycarp (or someone like him) dubbed the newly sanitized gospel John, intending the apostolic name as a counterblast against the charge that the book was heretical and thus should remain outside the canon. This is exactly the same sort of overcompensation we see in the same time period among Jews who debated the canonicity of the racy Song of Solomon (Song of Songs, Canticles, etc.). The book does not mention God. It seems to embody old liturgies of Tammuz and Ishtar, and it is sexually explicit. Thus some pious rabbis thought it had no business being considered scripture. The response was to declare it an allegory of the divine love for Israel and to make it especially sacred: "The whole Torah is Holy, but The Song of Songs is the Holy of Holies" (Rabbi Akiba). So you think it is profane, do you? Well, in that case: it's especially holy! In the same way a gospel suspected to be Cerinthian becomes a second fully apostolic gospel. Blomberg is as captive to the scribal traditions of his community as the ancient rabbis were when they named Moses as the author of the Pentateuch and the Book of Job: And interestingly, John is the only gospel about which there is some question about authorship . . . The name of the author isn't in doubt- it's certainly John . . . The question is whether it was John the apostle or a different John.13 It's certainly John? Blomberg's exegesis is narrowly sectarian and insular, almost as if we were reading Mormon or Jehovah's Witness scholarship. To anyone even vaguely familiar with modem New Testament scholarship Blomberg's claims are startlingly off-base. If you take a poll of Sunday School teachers and fundamentalist Bible Institute faculty, you will no doubt come up with such a conclusion. But among real scholars, conservative and liberal, the authorship question, as with the closely-related question ofthe identity ofthis gospel's 'Beloved Disciple' character, is wide open. And as for this business about John the son of Zebedee versus another John, this is all derived from Eusebius' remarks on the famous Papias passage, just below, in which Eusebius imagined he saw mention of two different Johns, the apostle John and the Elder John.
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>>389 >Because they were written by different people with different viewpoints? That is something to notice about unbelievers' attacks on the bible it's damned if you do damned if you don't, if the gospels are similar to each other then that apparently means they're just copying from each other and there's no eyewitness testimony, and if they're different from each other then that means they're just editing each other and there's no eyewitness testimony
>>393 What's also annoying is the assumption that absolutely no one, in the past two millennia, ever questioned if the text in the Bible is genuine. Hell, that was part of the point behind Constantine demanding fifty Bibles, and the Council of Laodicea. In the former, he wanted to distribute Christ's genuine gospel for the people to read and learn. And, the latter was even the bishops of the time doubting if what they read was genuine and taking it upon themselves, for several decades, to read through all of the different texts proclaiming to be the the words of Christ and his disciples. Trying to find the originals, the copies, the condensed, and the forgeries/heretical fakes. And, definitively declare which books are canon and which are not. Was the processes absolutely perfect? No, as evidenced by the schisms that happened with the Eastern churches, and later bishops questioning the decisions made. However, that's ironically the Bible's strength. People were always able to question the authenticity of what was written, and able to take it upon themselves to discover if what was written was the genuine article (Even more so today given how widely and easily available the manuscripts are).

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I'm not a Christian Anonymous 05/01/2023 (Mon) 15:09:54 Id: b5f550 No. 427 [Reply]
Nor do I have any other religious form of belief. I can't bring myself to have religious faith, Neither does my wife. We tried, though. Before we met, we tried very ahrd to believe. I was a christian for most of my life, she gave up ab about 12. So, that's how it is. Some people tells me that I should ask God for faith, or for signs, or something else that will help me believe, but I hope you see why that makes no semse, right?
I had little faith, what helped me was having a spiritual experience with God, i went to a Christian retreat and there i went to church three times a day and had pastors praying over me, and i was full of the Holy Sprit. There are other ways to be full of the Holy Spirit like singing the Psalms over and over until you feel the presence of the Holy Spirit.
>>428 I've done all those things already, except going to church three times a day. As I said, I really, really tried. When I lost my faith and my belief in God I wasn't happy about it, and I really felt like I was failing and needed to become a Christian again and be even stronger in the faith than before, so I tried everything you just said, except I don't go to church as much as you did. I went a lot, though. Nothing really happened.
>>430 How many times did you sing the Psalms? Because i have to sing a lot to feel the presence of the Holy Spirt. I would say join some assembly of Christians (not just a church) and participate in their ministry activities, there you will see God "speak" to them in their lives, some bizarre coincidences might come to you from God, like it did with me. It could also be that your sin has separated you slightly from God or you have opened doors to spirits that are not of God, do you watch porn? Also reading the Bible is how you will understand everything you need to know about God.

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Anonymous 10/14/2022 (Fri) 01:58:54 Id: 81c087 No. 100 [Reply]
Why is every /christian/ board so dead?
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>zoo >blacked >tickling >shota >interracial >mex Look where you are nigger lmfaoo
>>778 Furry. Loli. The list goes on and on. It would look the same way no matter which imageboard it is, since these places attract bad people.
>>165 >Because every time one picks up the bad actors which are just as bad as feds come in and shit up what bad actors?

Daily/Weekly readings Anonymous 11/27/2022 (Sun) 17:07:37 Id: 4f9ec5 No. 125 [Reply]
The purpose of this thread is essentially a blog for Anon's to post their regular readings of the Bible, make comments, and/or reflect on it. To get things started, earlier this month, I started reading my process of reading through the entire thing again. Previously did it a couple years ago with the NKJV that I had for years, but now reading through the original KJV that I snagged for free from one of those church thrift stores. About 35 chapters into Genesis, and the one thing that I found baffling is how much trouble Abraham, Issaac, and Jacob cause and then managed to escape Scott Free.
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Need to get back to doing this. Forgot just how dry Leviticus was.
>>385 And, just finished that off. Only other things really of note, aside from the laws regarding sexual morality, is the is God's great wraith against the Israelites who violate the laws. And, the Levites being considered as their own people to be treated equally with the Israelites, despite not being them.
>>395 Levites are Israelites are they not? They were just the "clean and pure" priest class that gets set apart for those reasons.

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Why do agnostics and "generic theists" become irrationally upset at being told the Old Testament doesn't matter? Anonymous 01/15/2023 (Sun) 06:43:19 Id: 76304d No. 274 [Reply]
I've had this conversation with several people from several walks of life. The general premise (since I lived it) is that... >Went to church as a child >Church taught the old testament stories like David and Goliath or Noah but never taught Jesus' teachings >Came to hate the church growing up for one reason or another >Called myself an agnostic/atheist for a long time >Eventually realized the New Testament tells a completely different tale I know a lot of normalfags who never went through the last step abd are stuck in that pre-NT phase. Regardless of the path they took to get where they are at whether through strong religious underpinnings or near-absence of Christ, they always have a similar story. When I mention that the Old Testament could be safely ignored in Church teachings and that Churches should focus on teaching Children the New Testament though, they almost all without any rhyme or reason become incredibly upset at the prospect of Churches teaching the word of Christ with no mention of the OT until the children are much older. What the heck? Why are these people who hate Christianity or at least are indifferent to it so opposed to the idea of teaching the New Testament beyond nativity scenes? They all universally insist that learning the Old Testament as a child is important, which I don't understand because the OT turns more people away from God for life than if Children were just taught the NT.
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>>278 >Some Jesus game vtubers are playing This? It hasn't released yet but it actually looks like it might be halfway decent as far as Christian vidyagames go: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1198970/I_Am_Jesus_Christ/
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>>274 >Why do agnostics and "generic theists" become irrationally upset at being told the Old Testament doesn't matter? Because it does matter, but it's only half of book. In some regards, the OT is a "history" of the world leading up Christ's birth. >When I mention that the Old Testament could be safely ignored in Church teachings and that Churches should focus on teaching Children the New Testament though, they almost all without any rhyme or reason become incredibly upset at the prospect of Churches teaching the word of Christ with no mention of the OT until the children are much older. Part of that has to do with how Christ, himself, constantly referred to the Old Testament. You can't talk about Christ without talking about his teachings, and you can't talk about his teachings with referring to the Old Testament. >>276 >but they also recognized that it was the previous contract between man (specifically the sons of Abraham) and God. But, that was ALSO established in the Old Testament (I want to say somewhere in 2nd Chronicles, Ezra, or Nehemiah, but I forget the exact book, it's from that latter period). >>276 >but they are also the source of sin for young believers and the source of lack of belief when they see the Old Testament quoted by satanists out-of-context Anon, by that same playbook, they ALSO quote Christ out of context in order to either justify how it's "immoral" to retaliate against them (Turn the other cheek) or use as "proof" that Christ's goal was to cause chaos (I came not to send peace, but a sword). >>277 >and any born again is obviously going to recommend you read the NT I disagree as, even with the New Testament, you have a lot of people that cherry pick parts of the gospel that they "want" to follow or think sound nice, all the while distorting the word to the point that it means the exact opposite and contradicts what the rest of the gospel says. However, I agree with what you're saying about how people shouldn't JUST read the Bible from start to finish and call it a day. Hell,

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one of esquire's 02/17/2023 (Fri) 08:03:13 Id: 5048bc No. 341 [Reply]
to the one dude who stumbles across this. <red the fucking Nag Hammadi Codecies especially the gospel of Judas. Melekh Mashiach cousin.>
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I feel like the message of that image fell apart at the end. Also Gnosticsm is a part of the anti-Christ since it belives God is evil.
What is with Gnostics and dead Christian board, or is it the same guy from /christ/?
>we're all made in the image of God, so why fight? This was not made by a Christian, but what someone believes a Christian sounds like.

Christ-Chan Thread Anonymous 12/11/2022 (Sun) 19:47:45 Id: 3a347a No. 139 [Reply]
Because anon.cafe/christian decided to get rid of it here it is, even though some pictures are lustful.
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Scatman John Anonymous 01/22/2023 (Sun) 01:55:30 Id: a585df No. 289 [Reply]
>man has a stuttering problem for most of his life >gets "spiritual" help? >suddenly he's doing masonic symbolism in his music videos and is famous and rich >everyone loves him and is ignorant of his alliance with the devil. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=K1joxLyd-HA

Anonymous 12/10/2022 (Sat) 01:14:17 Id: cc3431 No. 133 [Reply]
Thread to complain about the bullshit moderation of anon.cafe/Christian They deleted my post when i posted this video https://www.bitchute.com/video/B9GPlIxb7sxC/ KJ OZBORNE: 'ALL PORN IS GAY' - SICK SATANIC L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.+ AGENDA EXPOSED [20.06.2021] and then when i asked them about it they just deleted my post. It's rule 2 all over again.
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>>231 >janny deletes post from schizo trolls >janny deletes post responding to schizo troll so to not derail >janny deletes schizo trolls posts in /meta/ >janny deletes low effort posts >schizo trolls mad
>>233 They always are to be fair.
>>232 >>233 >>234 Satanic conspiracy theories post are not only a part of Christianity but inline with the rules, only incoherent ramblings are against the rules, I even asked the mods about their "skizoposting" rule and they said that it was more how you post not what you post.

Anonymous 12/30/2022 (Fri) 22:11:01 Id: 9825d3 No. 215 [Reply]
World Economic Forum says God is dead and Jesus is fake news.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JYIqmhIIF7x4/ Here is the original video if you're curious.
WEF is literally a Satanic cult
Their god, known to the Christians as Lucifer, is pretty much dead by now.

Why White Nationalism doesn't help the dissident right and the problems with jewpilling Anonymous 12/14/2022 (Wed) 07:30:03 Id: c856ca No. 167 [Reply]
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>>188 What am i wrong about?
>>189 dont argue with this fool, he's delusional. Ill check out your articles. I support your cause.
>>220 It's not just saying "white nationalism is racist/bad" it's a right wing look at the problems with white nationalism and jew pilling from a right wing person.

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Anonymous 12/15/2022 (Thu) 22:25:02 Id: 6f53c3 No. 191 [Reply]
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>>199 they said that a mod's password got leaked, and other threads were deleted as well as the one about ethno-nationalism.
Both the link in the OP and the aternative link redirect to https://waifuism.rocks
>>211 Not if you try the link by itself christ-chan.net but it's been 404 for a while now.

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