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Anonymous 08/30/2023 (Wed) 20:05:22 No. 25624
IDW Sonic Storytime #3 Starting with Sonic the Hedgehog: Endless Summer!!!
Yeah, seems like the rule of Amy not loving Sonic is in full effect now that they have to skirt around it so awkwardly. I skimmed through it cause I only really cared about the Amy parts, I think they were trying to go for a Noir thing with Vector but holy shit that's not right. And the villain is another lame OC animal girl. Really just a completely different series than Sonic at this point. You can like it, but man, it definitely doesn't feel like Sonic Adventure or hell, even Archie's stories.
>>43122 I'm trying to hold out hope that things will turn around and become more like the games once Sage shows up in #84, but Stanley is going to continue writing, and has apparently promised that things will continue as usual. I'd still say it's better than the Archie series, though. This issue had a couple OCs as one-off characters, but the Archie series was regularly about a cast of almost entirely non-game characters. This was still about the Chaotix, and I'll take a story about them over a story about the Freedom Fighters, or one of the many spinoff groups of Freedom Fighters. I'll continue being this hopeful unless all the OCs they put on a bus recently come back for anything more than one-off guest roles or cameos.
>>43120 >The manga and child like story bits were neat I liked this too.
That "noir" art was awful, honestly Also, the end of the story was ripped off of Fullmetal Alchemist, but that's fine with me because the alternative would probably be ripping off the usual old sitcom stories, and I think if Tails spontaneously decided to publish a newspaper and then started printing gossip and then learned a Very Important Lesson I'd drop the comic and never read it again
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I just can't hate her. She is so pretty.
>>43223 They have become really good at designing these characters honestly. What's with the glass pattern though? What is it supposed to represent?
>>43228 Yeah, getting the lead character artist from The Murder of Sonic was a good move for this comic. Their style fits the series really well. And I think the glasses are just meant to be a take on funny anime girl glasses. To make her "normal" self really clash with her thief alter ego.
>>43223 Missed the base reference
>>43229 I'm still waiting for some kind of follow up to Murder...
IDW Sonic 82# Storytime!!!
>>43526 That's all for today
>>43527 Pretty fucked up that Sonic and the rest enable and exacerbate Soleil's multiple personality disorder by referring to him as multiple people. These are supposed to be good guys. This would be like if Sonic told Chaos and Shadow that they should be angry and want to destroy the world.
>>43522 The art and story are so weird this issue. Faces look funny and the environment and damage to it seem very mismatched. Then the whole family drama is explained and solved at such an unnatural pace. The whole thing just feels very meh.
I think this is a good concept for a Sonic story, but the execution feels weak, especially the resolution. >>43528 They refer to him with different names, but I don't think that was the intention. Soleil is using that alternate persona to run away from his problems, but Sonic tells him to confront them and incorporate "Lunar" into who he is and use his new abilities as a strength. >>43535 I like Soleil's design, but the art doesn't look very good unfortunately. I agree about the faces looking weird.
>>43535 Yeah, it sorta feels like Soleil's story was supposed to have several more pages and got "compressed" down or something. Or maybe there was only a general outline of future events that got hurriedly thrown together into an issue with no time to refine the ideas.
>>43538 Yeah but they literally call him "they," and so do his parents, even though the whole point is that they don't play along with his bullshit. It doesn't really make sense. >>43540 This arc is only three issues, and most are four. This seems like it's basically a filler arc until they introduce Sage two issues from now.
>>43541 I didn't connect the use of singular they to the split personality thing at all until someone mentioned it. I think Evan just wanted to have some kind of "gender nonconforming" or "non-binary" character, and had to compromise to get SEGA's approval. I wouldn't be surprised if early on they wanted to make a genderfluid character. But the most confusing part in all of this is that the comic's use of "they" is actually wrong. When Lunar was revealed, Evan went to the Internet and told everyone that Lunar "doesn't have pronouns" (which is nonsense, but let's overlook that for a moment) and that he should always be referred to by his name instead. Then the comic releases, and it turns out that Lunar isn't his name, and the characters refer to him as "they". So Evan explained that SEGA actually decided that they're not allowed to use singular they either, but since the writers really really wanted a "non-binary" character, they managed to convince SEGA to go with the name-only nonsense, because apparently there actually are some people who demand to be only referred to by name. Except the note that singular they isn't allowed came too late and no one listened to Evan's request to fix it. She doesn't even seem to be too upset about not being able to use they, I assume she would be if it was related to the core concept of the character's split identity, instead she seems to be more concerned with having a non-binary character in the comic than its connection to the character's concept or story. Maybe I'm wrong and they did want to use they because of the split personality thing in the first place, but to me it sounds like everything was poorly planned because they cared more about their gender ideas than anything else. They had a good character design and a solid concept for a story, but I also think they should have put all this effort in polishing the art and writing instead of trying to sneak in some gender identity hints that SEGA obviously doesn't want.
>>43543 Not to be rude, but I got about half way through your explanation before giving up. What a convoluted mess, imagine if they put that effort into making entertaining stories.
>>43544 Nah, that's fair. I said the same thing at the end of my post lol
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>>43538 (Me) >They refer to him with different names, but I don't think that was the intention. Soleil is using that alternate persona to run away from his problems, but Sonic tells him to confront them and incorporate "Lunar" into who he is and use his new abilities as a strength. Or maybe I didn't understand the story of the issue at all. I thought the entire point was that Soleil and Lunar are the same person and he learns to accept both sides and use his strengths to the fullest, but now Evan is saying she wants to continue to explore the "relationship" between Soleil and Lunar. She's treating them as two separate characters. This only keeps getting more and more confusing. Maybe I'm trying to make sense of complete nonsense.
>>43551 problem is you're expecting the destination of the story to be self-realization and healing while living in a society that venerates mental illness nothing can mature when the whole world is an abusive mother
>>43543 >I think Evan just wanted to have some kind of "gender nonconforming" or "non-binary" character Yeah, frankly that's obvious, but I was being facetious. Either way, Sonic shouldn't be encouraging this character's serious mental health problems. And it doesn't even make sense that the parents play along with any of these mental health problems, since the conflict in the story is that we are told they don't, yet we see them do it. Evan Stanley's virtue signalling resulted in not just bad grammar and awkward and confusing writing, but a major contradiction to what is supposed to be the central conflict of the story. As you pointed out, she cared more about encouraging this fetish than about writing well. She already sucked and was writing boring stories that didn't belong in this series, but now she's just admitting that writing good stories isn't even her main priority. She needs to be fired. Not like there aren't a million other autists on the internet that would take her job and do it better, since they actually like the series more than they like inserting fetishes and political propaganda. >>43551 You were right at first, but Stanley is mentally ill enough that she has secluded herself to the hugbox of Bluesky, so she can hear nothing but other mentally ill freaks praising her for encouraging their mental illness. So now she will try to ruin her own story even further so she can push more propaganda. Hopefully Sega just stops her from using this character again after the next issue.
>>43522 So we agree that given the context Soleil is a very unoriginal name, right? >>43524 Dude, who gives a god damn fuck about these random artificially dysfunctional characters, holy shit. It's like some of those sad, sad twitter stories about kids running away from their home because their parents don't respect their arbitrary pronouns. Who cares?? >>43525 This shit just keeps getting more and more awkward. >>43526 That ending is just worthless. >>43552 This is what makes the most sense so far.
>>43574 >It's like some of those sad, sad twitter stories about kids running away from their home because their parents don't respect their arbitrary pronouns. It's more than "like" that. It's clearly the intent of the story. The thing about not wanting to be an acrobat or whatever is an extremely flimsy secondary excuse, so Stanley can tell Sega the whole story isn't about propagandizing for a fetish. Bitch needs to be fired. Flynn clearly agrees with the politics, but he has some more sense, he at least seems to have some tiny bit of interest for telling stories that are actually about Sonic and his world, and not just inserting unrelated bullshit into that world.
>>43551 >but now Evan is saying she wants to continue to explore the "relationship" between Soleil and Lunar Here's a horrible thought: what if the intention is for Lunar to be Soleil's love interest?
>>43615 Hopefully that's enough to get Stanley fired, given Sega seems to not want any romance in the series in general. Even Amy is barely allowed to show romantic interest in Sonic, and that's her entire character.
>>43615 Lunar should be Tangle's girlfriend since she has the crazy acrobatic moves and Soleil should be Whisper's girlfriend since she has a tendency to drop her spaghetti.
>>43616 >given Sega seems to not want any romance in the series in general. One of the few reasonable mandates. Romance has no place in this franchise.
>>43615 She had the huge meltdown on Tumblr about how IDW wants their comic to be short and self-insert, which causing Evan to throw a fist because she wants to use her OC to trauma dumping on Sonic. Also she used Shadow as an excuse to blame SEGA cuz muh mandatessss. Also Gigi art fucking sucks balls
>>43791 >She had the huge meltdown on Tumblr Where? I went check but only found tons of Silver art and a bunch of cool animations.
>>43746 >One of the few reasonable mandates. Romance has no place in this franchise. It has a place, but only if done very lightly, like Amy's infatuation with Sonic, or Rouge teasing Knuckles. Those are core elements of those characters, and removing them leaves those characters with nothing. But yes, there shouldn't be actual relationship drama. The examples I gave were played for comedy, and that makes a big difference.


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