>>43551 >but now Evan is saying she wants to continue to explore the "relationship" between Soleil and Lunar Here's a horrible thought: what if the intention is for Lunar to be Soleil's love interest?

>>43615 Hopefully that's enough to get Stanley fired, given Sega seems to not want any romance in the series in general. Even Amy is barely allowed to show romantic interest in Sonic, and that's her entire character.

>>43615 Lunar should be Tangle's girlfriend since she has the crazy acrobatic moves and Soleil should be Whisper's girlfriend since she has a tendency to drop her spaghetti.

>>43616 >given Sega seems to not want any romance in the series in general. One of the few reasonable mandates. Romance has no place in this franchise.

>>43615 She had the huge meltdown on Tumblr about how IDW wants their comic to be short and self-insert, which causing Evan to throw a fist because she wants to use her OC to trauma dumping on Sonic. Also she used Shadow as an excuse to blame SEGA cuz muh mandatessss. Also Gigi art fucking sucks balls

>>43791 >She had the huge meltdown on Tumblr Where? I went check but only found tons of Silver art and a bunch of cool animations.

>>43746 >One of the few reasonable mandates. Romance has no place in this franchise. It has a place, but only if done very lightly, like Amy's infatuation with Sonic, or Rouge teasing Knuckles. Those are core elements of those characters, and removing them leaves those characters with nothing. But yes, there shouldn't be actual relationship drama. The examples I gave were played for comedy, and that makes a big difference.

So SEGA's fault for doing what every parent company does and mandating comics or Evan and Ian's fault for being incapable of working with the hand they are dealt once again? I get both sides, but both have their own flaws. So whose are worse?

>>44007 Neither. IDW isn't canon and this is merely theater for those paying attention. Remember how Sonic Prime is supposed to be canon despite all the continuity issues. If it ain't a Sonic Team game = Elseworld/Gaiden

>>44007 I think it's a lack of coordination as always

>>44007 so basically they're skipping Frontiers?

>>44008 >Sonic Prime is supposed to be canon

>>44007 Bad writing and coordination. Sega telling them to keep continuity light is perfectly reasonable. It should be accessible to kids who play the games and decide to check out the tie in comics. They're stupid for not being able to do this properly.

IDW Sonic 83# Storytime!!!

>>44020 That's all for today!!! Merry Christmas!!!

>>44007 >So whose are worse? Ian and Evan. The writing style for the IDW comics is obviously inadequate for the Sonic franchise. The western mindset of 'endless closed continuity' is not substantial consistency at all. This approach is toxic to a fantasy setting. The comics should be written closer to the japanese style of leaving gaps that can be filled later on, making episodes that are parts of a whole. It would make for far more interesting stories. Their communication issues are one thing, but I'm 100% with SEGA here.

>>44008 >IDW isn't canon >If it ain't a Sonic Team game = Elseworld/Gaiden The inclusion of the cast in Crossworlds, made by Sonic Team, coupled with the references seeping from Flynn's shit-eating grin and the vocal minority echoing such say otherwise. Not that it matters in the long run; games aren't gonna get any better because some glorified comic fan characters are now appearing for social media brownie points and nothing else. At this time, they're as worthless as the free dlc they are in Crossworlds and worth less than the $30+ they are in Rumble.

>Surge and Kit were modified using the bio-date from Shadow and Sonic Considering Shadow and Sonic are both their fathers, does that mean SurKit is incestuous? Is that Starline's secret fetish?

>>44042 >Shadow and Sonic ???

>>44008 Cream was introduced in a Dimps game. So was Blaze. Then again, that is clearly why Blaze's story is fucked in Sonic '06. And Eggman Nega is fucked because of only being in two sub-series by different teams that both aren't Sonic Team. But they're also clearly intended to be canon. They're just fucked up. Sonic Prime doesn't fuck up continuity too hard due to it all being in alt-universes and thus inconsequential. Sonic living in Green Hill and being friends with Rouge aren't really elements from the games, but they also aren't really continuity issues. Anyway as for the newest issue of the comic, at least it was pretty much all action, so Stanley had less time to fuck up the story and characters. But I still hate how Sonic says "I love you goobers." How can this retarded woman find it so hard to understand such a simple anime cliche protagonist personality? Just take how he acts in the Dreamcast games and have him act like that. Even all the adaptations from the '90s, with all their weird continuities, got Sonic's personality down pretty reasonably. He might have been a little softer in the US and a little harder in the UK, but none of those versions stuck out as hard as this one. He's not supposed to talk like a condescending woman/male feminist. Hopefully Soleil/Lunar never appears again. But I'm under the impression that the character being teased is resurrected Starline, so anyone can return. Hopefully they pull a Mecha Frieza and Starline immediately jobs to Sage, because I just want to see Sage and other stuff from the games. But these writers have no idea what a Mecha Frieza is, they don't know what anime is, and that's why these comics aren't as good as they should be. But I'm still holding out hope that they'll do something with Sage, since it gives them an excuse to reference the games much more heavily than they've been doing.

>>44095 >Sonic Prime doesn't fuck up continuity too hard It does. >due to it all being in alt-universes Except for all the times they try to reference game events and completely contradict them, or fail to do so where they should have. >but they also aren't really continuity issues They are. Sonic living in Green Hill and being completely OOC are major continuity issues.

>>44096 >Except for all the times they try to reference game events and completely contradict them, Like when? I don't recall any particular instances, though I'm willing to believe I forgot some. >Or fail to do so where they should have. I don't think this is an issue. Sonic's had a lot of adventures and he lives in the moment. He doesn't need to reference the past all the time. He could, I wouldn't mind (actually I'd probably like it if executed well), but this is just simply not a continuity fuck up. Sonic living in Green Hill and being OOC are not major continuity issues. Being OOC is a major character issue, which is arguably even more important, but it's not a continuity issue. And he could live in Green Hill for a little while if he wants to. Look, I don't even like the show, but this is not the reason why. It's just boring and a waste of what could have been a fun idea. And yeah, the characters were not written well. But continuity isn't the problem.

>>44100 It's not a matter of Frontiers style references. I can give you more examples, but just the fact that Primenic says he's never seen a robot that doesn't have a Flicky inside contradicts every single Sonic game. Nine deserved a better show

>>44103 Eh. Minor enough that I can overlook it. Not that I'm saying it's good. But they intended it to be canon. They just simultaneously didn't give a fuck about it.

>>44017 I actually kinda like that robot. The design is very whimsical and the retarded convoluted design is very eggman. The multiple hands is kind of weird though. >>44019 Of course the random OC save the day. >>44020 This issue was gay. So they figured out a few issues ago that Soleil was stealing the emeralds. First thing you imagine they'd do is go ask questions about where this and the other emeralds went. Although now it appears it was someone else. >>44026 >The western mindset of 'endless closed continuity' is not substantial consistency at all. This approach is toxic to a fantasy setting. >The comics should be written closer to the japanese style of leaving gaps that can be filled later on, making episodes that are parts of a whole. It would make for far more interesting stories I think I agree with this. Specially the first quote, I think this approach is pretty boring. >>44095 >But I still hate how Sonic says "I love you goobers." How can this retarded woman find it so hard to understand such a simple anime cliche protagonist personality? kek. /r/ing Iizuka trying to explain to evan that sonic is just a hedgehog that goes fast.

>>44113 And that's why it's full of continuity issues. Yes, it's "minor", but nearly everything that happens in the show is a "minor" contradiction, and it adds up. I'm supposed to take it as "canon" but nothing ever lines up.

>>44118 It's only any good as its own continuity anyway, if you try to shove it in with the games it loses all of its edge and emotional appeal.

>>44120 How so? The only emotion to it is with Nine anyway, and he's a new character regardless.

>>44120 I think it would have been better if they knew that when they were writing it and just made it its own thing without the broken game references, or better yet if they actually put in more effort to make it fit the series

>>44150 Were there even any game references? Any references just seemed like general things anyway. I think by saying it's "canon" all they really meant is that it's the first cartoon that doesn't go out of its way to contradict the basic world and characters of the games in extreme ways. Yeah yeah, examples have been given of contradictions here, but it's nothing like how the other adaptations are explicitly about a dystopian post-apocalyptic world, or Sonic being an alien from another dimension.

>>44156 I seriously think the contradictions are just as extreme. >Were there even any game references? It seems they tried, particularly with the flashbacks.

>>44157 All the other adaptations had extreme differences from the games as their very premises. All the examples here are small enough that they could have been fixed without changing anything else. They're just bad writing. But you can't make SatAM take place in the same world as the games by just squinting and ignoring a few references here and there. It's the whole premise. Sonic X tries to adapt games, but Sonic and friends being from another dimension is an extremely essential plot point, and requires them to change the game adaptations to fit it. Sonic Prime doesn't have anything like that. Sonic acts like a little bitch, and there's a line about robots not having flickies being new, but things like that could have been fixed with the actual core world and premise being unaltered. Fixing those wouldn't be changing the whole show. I already forgot what flashbacks you're even talking about though. But if it's just more stuff like flashing back to when characters met, then I don't think I'd even consider that a game reference. It's just a general franchise reference. Sonic had to meet Tails somehow.