>>1010
>In my opinion we need a violent upheaval
You should be praying every day that this doesn't happen. The real war you are talking about is already being fought right now. Any victories that hypothetical right-wing/libertarian forces might win in the future are being decided in the metaphysical battles of today, all the blood spilling that comes later is just to seal the deal.
Right now, not only are we outnumbered by leftists, but even if we outnumbered them initially, we would still lose simply because right-wing people are moral, and because we are moral we aren't prepared to do absolutely anything to win when it comes to a might = right scenario. I don't think you'd be prepared to ride into towns, take the women and children hostage while forcing the men to fight your battles, like the Bolsheviks did in the Russian Civil War, nor would you be prepared to partake in the kind of raiding and marauding that Sherman did in the American Civil War. The right just isn't prepared to lose its soul to win, our victories are either conditional or else they are worthless, but the left doesn't even need to win, it is okay with everyone else losing with it, it is only interested in dragging others to down to hell with it.
>>1013
>We need an actual socialist president to make things worse so people understand what has actually failed and rebel against the system.
If people are so rational to learn from trial and error, why don't they already know that shit's fucked because of the growth of the state and the increasing amount of socialist policies? Or why haven't these rational people looked at North Korea, the USSR, the South American dictatorships and countless other socialist shitholes before repeating their mistakes? Likewise, if they are so rational, do you think they will not look back and do their research on who helped the socialists get into power, see libertarians on the list, and then write us off as another group of morons who led to the West's demise? Do you think the communist dictatorship of the future will not rewrite history anyway?
Let's not do dangerous things out of desperation. We still have a lot of options open to us. 10-20 years down the line we would look at these times with envy and wonder why we didn't take advantages of what opportunities we still had. You can achieve a lot even on your own if you're rich or creative enough, our real strength comes from the individual and not from the collective getting together and shouting for something loud enough, the real question is if you're willing to invest time or money for your cause and you're not just all talk.