>>16343 The overall message of this post is: >hotpocketing strangles communities >there should be less hotpocketing >no one wants to be a janny because it sucks and ruins people <(and generally attracts power-trippers to begin with) I'd add Yet multiple replies are like "so you want MORE regulations" like WTAF did you read to infer that at all?

>>16349 >Yet multiple replies are like "so you want MORE regulations" like WTAF did you read to infer that at all? >>16230 >>16341 The conversation started from this. >I'd like someone to moderate a moderator who moderated me Which is precisely a request for more higher level hotpocketing under the guise of reducing it. >>16343 >Suggests that making unregulated boards is impossible because this and that And that leaves exactly one other solution, which also happens to be stupid and counter-productive — to regulate regulators. So would you rather: 1. Make and maintain a board yourself despite hardships and perceived futility. 2. Regulate the regulators so only power-tripping faggots remain as BOs. 3. Fuck off. 4. Whine and do nothing. 5. Suggest a solution nobody figured out yet.

>>16349 >like WTAF did you read to infer that at all? What didn't you read to not get their logic? He wants fagmods to be less faggy, but isn't willing to go elsewhere or do it himself. That leaves only applying new rules to the fagmods themselves as a solution under his restrictions, that is his rules.

>>16351 >2. Regulate the regulators so only power-tripping faggots remain as BOs. I think only power tripping faggots are going to be BOs anyways. t. BO of several boards

>>16353 Not only them. There was a time some 5 years ago when >1. Make and maintain a board yourself despite hardships and perceived futility. also worked and was even relatively successful. Then sites where it did work got wrecked by censorship. The lesson of it was that the more unregulated you want the board to be, the deeper in the web you have to go. So far, we are only on the "optionally .onion" level.

>>16354 Not exactly. What happened 6 years ago was rather a combination of things. 8chan was a thorn for big tech, governments and other organisations. You can create yourself a censorship shithole that abides by all the most ridiculous rules you're getting, and they will still create new rules just to shut you down. You do not exactly need to go somewhere deep. nu8chan is on the normal imageboard level. The onion link is just a backup plan, as other bunkerboards have one as well. Meanwhile, BO is as some already wrote here. If you do not like how a board is run, create one yourself and do what you want with it. Nobody needs a global moral police. It's not even difficult to do. Just do it. Making your own imageboard is a bit more difficult, but even that is not exactly difficult, depending on the expected amount of traffic and public attention.

Any reason why .se keeps dying?

>>16356 8chan wasn't the only victim of 19-21 events, and its story may have very well been different from the rest. What happened 5-10 years ago was that at some point populists noticed the imageboard segment of the web. And as certain topics were banned and blocked online, those boards were targeted because they kept their content. So a site whose owner lived in let's say Russia, would have to remove most of the boards' content to comply with local laws or face crippling fines and possibly jail time (no yuri anime allowed, for example). Those imageboards weren't a thorn in anyone's side, they were simply there for the people who needed them. But because they were close enough to the surface web, every imageboard owner was on record with their credit history and home address. And so, out of fear those sites either policed themselves to death or removed all the content that was making them imageboards. And that is the problem now because practically every country in the world has laws prohibiting something online. As such, anyone can come to your board that doesn't normally have censored content and they can post that content there just to get you or the entire imageboard in the sort of legal trouble now native to the surface web. You'll have to remove that content to survive, and that is the sort of added regulation slippery slope which ends up in fagmods everywhere. So yes you have to go deeper if you don't want to give your ID to the government and don't plan to create a honeypot for free thinkers. Anyway, to avoid misappropriation of standpoints… Personally, unlike that whiny anon way above, I'm cool with the few boards here I do visit, they don't seem particularly restrictive to me. I also don't feel the urge to call anyone a nigger or a faggot for some reason. But those few boards I visit also have 2 PPH at most, and often there isn't a new post for days. Is low PPH of /a/ a thing that can be fixed by making yet another board? Doesn't seem so.

>>16358 I'm not saying it was the only one, but it was one of the few where it was attacked by other companies that basically shot themselves into the foot by doing that cloudflare. "Law" terror is another thing, at the end, what I've written still applies, we agree on that, in different words. Though no, going deeper is not necessary. And the only board I visit here is /v/ anyway. Don't even have the time to do more. >I also don't feel the urge to call anyone a nigger or a faggot for some reason. Probably because nobody is telling you not to and there isn't much reason to do so. >/a/ They're elsewhere in the bunker network. Not on nu8chan. Also .se is doing really bad now. I keep trying to send this and I keep getting "Connection failed". 5th try without image. Now the captcha won't let me post...

>>16189 Connection is timing out on node1 for me.

Am I the only having problems with .se and .moe right now? the 1 to 4 moe-nodes seem to work Both work from Tor and I don't think it's related to my ISP, .se kinda works but some pics can't load. >Gateway Time-out. >Sorry, the backend is unreachable or down for essential maintenance. Try again soon! >Node: 3e9e300668af8ea386e2d83efe0d714c

>>16361 Yeah nodes 1-3 and main .moe/.se domains are shitting for me right now. node 4.moe works fine. I got a 503 error when trying to load a .gif from .se

>>16361 Yeah, .se won't really load and .onion is down. I can connect through TOR to .moe without issues tho

.se is working on my end, not the nodes for me. Also how can we check board owner login sessions.

>tor is dead (again) >moe is slow >se is shitting itself again

So why are .moe and .se having a stroke now?

>>16363 I can connect but constantly get disconnected because if any node touches the wrong path, it's back to 404

>.se is dead for normal browsers >had to pull out Tor again Will I be fine if I just don't update it and don't that initial security check? Seems excessive.

>>16189 >.moe only works intermittently >.se is fucking dead >A ton of the tor network went down including 8moe's onion The site is quickly becoming barely usable for me.

Please do something with se, admintachis!!

A few anime episodes ago I got 503 on .se, 404 on .moe, and "not found" on .onion. All at the same time. Then I went to watch those episodes. It's fine on .onion now.

Great, 8chinz is kill again. Bad Gateway 502 error. 503 before that.

Moe works se down, node 5da58861f6783229eb2845f21fbcc9c0 im guessing its the hoster

What's up with the bug that swaps the page's ending tag, after jumping past the "accepting terms" page, from .html to .json?

>>16377 never seen it it should redirect to wherever you were before the disclaimer redirect

>>16375 Moe gives 404, like usual.

>>16378 I've had that disclaimer redirect me to a random ass image sometimes that overwrites the link to the orginal thread in my history too and I know exactly what causes it to boot. When I turn up my browser after turning off my PC must I reload the page to get the ToS pop up or it will never update. I don't know why I need it because I still keep the captcha pass cookie but that's how it is. Now if I switch and load a different 8chan tab without completing or seeing the 1st page's disclaimer page, I must complete 2 ToS pages and 1 of them (I forget which) will pick an image (usually from the thread but I've also seen that cut off ace combat picture) but not the thread or catalog that was orginally there. Said image overwrites my browser's history for some reason. Even if I hit "go back" to see this tab's history, going past the ToS page that somehow has a few of the numbers of the thread I was in, same image shows up.

>>16377 >>16378 I've seen it a handful of times.

>>16380 part of the issue is tos is a session cookie; yell at acid to give it an expiration time >>16336 because sessions aren't nearly as reliable as they used to be especially with mobile users the other part is storing the previous path in a cookie that can be overwritten and I'm not sure there's a decent way around that considering where and how it runs maybe urlencoding and passing it along in a urlparam instead of a cookie on your end, you reload your entire browser session at once or something?

>>16382 No I manually reload every tab to avoid the ToS fuckery but sometimes I forget

>>16371 The Thing

>>16274 For a short while it was possible back in April to access 8ch via normal internet, but in May all three domains were rendered inaccessible over here. I've only managed to get to moe and se via TOR, with intermediaries and guards in Western countries, even if phoneposting or using normal browsers has become impossible. Somehow, 8kun remained unchecked in the meantime, despite being the site with a worse renown. The provider with fiber up everyone's city blocks here is Digi Communications, and they've been expanding into Iberia. 8chan.moe is not mentioned anywhere within any restrictions contractually or not, but it is common knowledge that the intelligence services have agents embedded in anything telecom here. Shady shit's going on, I wish y'all the best, and to fellow Eastern Euros, the cost of buying a cheap used Android to use for connecting to TOR should be worth it.

Acid, there was a false threat of a mass shooting at a university in Argentina and the email linked to 8chan.moe. There's no manifesto posted on /argentina/ but you should alert your mods to be on the lookout for any suspicious activity there, especially since the board is abandoned.

>>16386 Now it really feels like the authentic 8chan experience. :^)

>>16385 What country is that? In Poland only .moe and .cc have been down ever since the rapefugee wave of halfchinners. .se when it doesn't shit itself is accessible. I don't know what you mean by using Android, I use a normal PC, and only that. Intelligence surveilling everything is common at this point. .se still down btw