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/#/ - Numbers Anonymous 04/19/2025 (Sat) 21:31:55 Id: 588aa5 No. 62983 >>63023 >>63024
Previous: >>51242
Cuteseki
Dethroned Coco for number two.
>>62983 (OP) Hololive fucked real hard by losing Gawr Gura. It'll likely set off a domino effect and they'll end up losing more talent unless Yagoo changes the way his company operates.
>>63023 Shut the fuck up
Nimi soon late frame
Sponsored Gigi in 20 minutes https://youtu.be/wlnI543rx94
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Sad Girl Hours with Moom and Nerissa https://youtu.be/WSM66DoRFV0
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Gura Zatsu + Announcement https://youtu.be/3pS6f3_veik[Embed]
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Biboo Rust https://youtu.be/sjx3S3kvKdo
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Mori Rust https://youtu.be/anS_ZA3I8RU
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So the good news for me is, CD's and anniversary and birthday t-shirts aren't on the Chinese merch list. Concert t-shirts that come in multiple sizes are chinese unfortunately. I shouldn't have waited on the Color Rise Harmony merch
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>Rimworld That's not EldenRing...
>>63222 Can you prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? That's the legal standard of proof we're working with over at 8chan
>>63260 It came to me in a dream...
how the fuck does gigi get so many sponsors wtf
Nimi is taking lessons, not actually saying which. Could be dancing lessons.
Nimi is taking dance lessons.
>>63278 she's carrying justice.... or it could just be her prime time slot....
...Nimi might just shadowdrop her new model.
Nimi is being retarded. Possibly because of the graduations I guess.
>>63331 And it MIGHT be on Monday Nimi what the fuck
>>63350 No it's her being incredibly impatient and wanting her full model already.
>>63358 Well, she can't do it on the weekend, that would be awkward.
this game is fucking shit gigi
>no Elden Ring I sleep.
>>63278 She's the Number Princess of EN, generally very sponsor-friendly and approachable, her sense of humor is top tier. I don't know how the money moves in this but I assume sponsoring a newer member with 400K subscribers will be a lot easier on the bank than getting Biboo or Mori
Nimi wanting to debut the new model before Moom and Gura graduate supports my rrat that sen/whatever her new identity is is gonna debut almost right after she graduates
>my IDs have only been green and blue so far Bow down, peasants.
>>63411 >he never had a purple ID Grim
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>>63411 Mine have been red, magenta, and purple
reminder that tower loves kiara
>>63416 >>63425 Kiss the ring, SEAbrowns.
These are big! >What about Mococo? Don’t forget to pick up her younger twin sister in a separate listing here[embdeded link] to keep her from getting lonely! They didn't embed the link. Secret Mococo antis?
I got blocked from holotower and I only remember liveposting nimi. Are they really that block happy there?
>>63480 Purple ID>>>>
>>63489 bau bau.....
I am cringe
>>63411 lets see
>someone makes statement that vtuber corporations are exploitative >whitout fail there's someone else replying that Phase Connect and VShojo are the good ones How do we explain this phenomenon?
>>63495 you can't livepost in the hlgg thread
>>63278 I think she herself hunts for them a bit, other members don't want to do as there could be negative sentiments amongst their audience. Gigi makes it clear that she has a lot of ambitions when it comes to songs and projects and is obviously using these sponsorships to help finance those.
>>63530 KWAB
>>63495 You might have said something that offended the mods.
>>63534 I wouldn't be surprised if she turned down less too
>hardstuck 9k Worthless bitch kek
>>63525 >graduations make some ppl sad and gets them to remind the good times the chuuba had in her career >some random whore ppl barely know from vshojo "Mm ackshually, this is cringe" im nooticing that as well
>>63530 Noctyx didn't do as well as expected, huh?
>>63525 This is how Mythic, Vshojo, and Phase do auditions.
>>63544 I suggested at the start of the refuge that the board should stay holo/ex-holo only and then spent the rest of the time in /uuu/ talking about nimi
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https://x.com/Mkrostudio/status/1913351840164663445 hololive-keyboards-shop.fourthwall.com I missed if this was posted. How excited IRyS must be!
>>63448 My dick...
>>63599 I posted all of them as they showed, except the Homo's but someone else did that for me.
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10K DORYAAAAAAA
>Ennacuck about to start botting every Biboo Rust stream to beat Nimi while pebbles here claim it's actually Biboo's new Japanese audience I'm tired already and it hasn't even started
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O-oppai ice cream?
>>63553 10k DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>>63606 Which homo? Assuming you can know them by name. Speaking of homos, did the dice company collab ever go anywhere? I've just seen Bae's dice.
>>63622 Oh shut up Nimi probably won't even beat CC, and there's Gura AND Mumei (two separate collabs). If she does get hit, it would've happened regardless of whether or not Nimi wins. This new botter doesn't seem to give a shit about Nimi in the first place.
>>63626 love fuwawa
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>>63626 Wait isreal kek
>>63634 Bettle or whatever the fuck his name is
>>63636 >Oh shut up Nimi probably won't even beat CC lol
>>63606 >except the Homo's the homos got one?? really?.. why is cover wasting an spot that could go for a girl for those faggots? (fucking AGAIN)
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>>63642 Why does she need that, Fuwawa is right there.
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>>63646 Don't suppose the sponsor wanted a homo too. Since girls with mechanical keyboards are a thing, judging by IRys and Reine. Bettel and Ruze are the ones that actually move merch right? So I could see it.
>>63622 You missed it, xhe's just indiscriminately viewfarming everyone now: >>61993 (51242) >>62029 (51242) >>60703 (51242) >>58280 (51242) >>58034 (51242) >>55813 (51242) >>54258 (51242) Ironically, Biboo is the only one with a decently clean graph last night: >>59393 (51242)
>>63530 >he has taken a spot in everyone's hearts yeah because he is fat amirite fellas
>>63672 i just saw it was clown homo, at least that make sense yeah
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>>63671 >namefag >brown ID
Sisters... even reddit is making fun of our precious boy...
>>63672 >Bettel and Ruze are the ones that actually move merch right? Proof? I recall even the 'top' homos don't sell much merch.
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11K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>63611 >>63742 >that pic you guys will never change lol
>>63611 >>63742 >namefagging >kiara shitpost image Least obvious falseflag
>>62434 (51242) <big booty gacha game in the most latin city in the US Is this racist?
>>63525 Corporations vs. Agencies. They act in different ways, while corpos in this industry can be good for talents, they are also corpos and the actions they will take will be always at the gain of profit for the corporation not the talent. An agency works for the talent and with the talent, it's a symbiotic relationship where they both have to work together for the profit, until they don't.
https://www.twitch.tv/akugakikoa She is jumping between 2600 to 3200 ccv
Did Nimi pivot from being an ASMR vtuber in her LL days to becoming a gaming vtuber as Nimi?
>>63845 Agencies are usually incorporated and will ALSO take actions for profit that won't align with the talent. Some agencies will pocket sponsorship money by taking off the top, then present the reduced amount to talent in order to increase the profit margin.
>>63874 Kinda odd but good for her if she stays consistently on Twitch. Did she get a raid? If it also translates to YT subs its even better.
>>63495 you probably got caught up in a rangeban from a schizo trying nefarious stuff
>>63845 Newsflash, both Phase and VShojo are corpos. I would guess one of the few that qualifies as an agency is Mythic, but as >>63915 says, the difference is moot if the only thing you wanna do is dunk on certain corpos.
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>>63758 I like wawa tho....
>>63916 Went to check and is probably botted, only her karaokes get like 2k ccv
>>63830 The most Latin city is Miami
>>63955 Huh, is it?
So that's it? Nimi is just a 5 view now?
>>63965 >11k views pretty huge for a indie
>>63781 >he is not supposed to know how much he sells Well, that is not really a good sign; the girls usually know how much they sold, and even management congratulates them. But I guess that's normal for them because their sells are usually pretty shit, he must be the less shittier. But I still doubt they picked him because he really sells well, it's more like among the shitters, he sells a bit more. I would not surprised if the homo management beg for a scrap of merch opportunity to try to 'save' them (again).
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>>63965 >now
>>63781 >Management don't tell him how much he sell >D-Don't worry bro you're doing well Kek
>>64018 >smol
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>>63961 Miami is pretty much an extension of cuba PR,and DR. SD is close to Mexico but also very expensive live in
>>64018 >troon out >still jack off your dick to anime girls I am so glad I wasn't born this mentally ill
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>Mumei graduation tour single POV collab losing to regular Nimi gaming stream EN5 better knock it out of the park or it's looking grim for EN again
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>>63965 > (1)
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good morning /#/ bros
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>>63622 the niminigger cries out
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>Nimi is botted to hell >Still can't beat CC >Still can't beat Kiara Grim
>>64245 Uh oh holodrone melty
>cant refute his points GRIIIIIIIM
12k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>64292 > (1)
These bots are going for a ride today on the EN side.
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Sheep gold yesterday, therefore sex with a sheep
Gura didn't tweet her frame. She really doesn't want the Twitter audience.
15k DORYA
>>64333 twitter audience exist? Those are just dramafags and trannies looking for drama.
>>63645 Apologize
>>64333 I would love it if she shits on drama tourists but she's too averse to controversy
>>64333 The twitter audience doesnt watch anyways so whats the point
Highest I saw
hololive is dying
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12K DORYAAAAA
gura live
>>64386 You are dying
holy 60k stream incoming
35k doryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>64333 she always avoided drama, and now she has a bunch of random faggots coming out of nowhere and making videos like if they know whats is actually happening with her... i can't just imagine the pressure of trying to speak out without making it worse for the ppl she loves
>>64405 so are you. also, >what do you say after something like that you say, GOODBYE BITCH
Don't raid her with bots Mumei why no why
Gura beat all post-announcement numbers except Aqua, who basically cheated in more numbers because it was her anniversary as well.
>>64428 She beat Aqua with 244k
Gooba... 😭, i cant even focus on nimi right now
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I don't understand though.
>>64428 Aqua perfectly timed her announcement to be the crack that destroyed the dam, little bit of a sham her graduation couldnt crack a mil even with the Z though
50k doryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>64428 Ame technically cheated too considering her absolute guerilla no warning announcement stream to begin with
>>64413 It's weird because leaving to join the indy sphere imo is the best way to court drama. One advantage of being in a Corpo is the ability to shield you from some drama. That won't be there anymore, especially if she returns as Senzawa. The Senzawa fanbase has some truly toxic folks in it.
>I'm sorry
No Tweet 50k lol
>ive seen people who are unhappy with me yeah, not streaming for two years but still sucking up all those memberships and merch will do that. BITCH
>>64471 If she comes back shes absolutely reincarnating
>>64475 >memberships You didn't have to keep it up >Merch You didn't have to buy it.
>>64428 This is probably the most blatant "I'm redebuting" any of them have been and most of them have been pretty blatant
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It's sounding more and more like she plans to continue streaming
>>64496 she seems really excited too they're starting a new streaming group
>>64496 >>64509 and it wont be the same. doomed to irrelevance in 2 years. fitting. DESERVED
will her redebut trigger a mini mythmania event?
>>64523 EnReco
https://nitter.space/GrimmiVT/status/1913673803110244472 you fags said this was the fifth justice member?
Spam more "A" please, it's hilarious.
>all VODs available >comments turned off
>>64547 Bullet dodged.
>>64496 She was streaming before? Going by past behavior, she will make content the first 3-6 months before the normal pattern of disappearing for long periods of time starts over.
>>64496 I'll believe it when I see it
>>64518 It definitely wont be but for the diehard chumbuds it may be enough if its only a few streams a month, as that's what shes done the past few years. I'm more surprised that it really was just the anxiety that gave her stream hort.
>>64547 I don't know what you're suggesting, but had she been, this behavior isn't out of the ordinary.
>cross path again someday BROS
>>64547 Would have fit right in with Raora, Gigi and ERB
>>64554 Probably for the best. Imagine this, but even harder. Or straight up nasty comments because it's Gura and antis are awful.
>how long have I been planning to graduate
It really sounds like she has nothing good to say about Cover.
Fuck she answered my question
>sucks to say everything was okay when everything was not okay
I just want for her to crack open a cold one during her first stream as whatever she will be
>>64584 3 years (as long as her contract)
>I don't have to hide it anymore
>>64578 Salty napcuck
>The elephant in the room was no longer in the room Omegatroon gave Gura ptsd
Well there's at least some collabs in mind
Saving buffs talk stuff for her new persona lol. Though seriously Gura got a lot of power so talking about stuffs like this will have huge effect so it's better to stay quiet.
Advent collab when Gura
>>64584 I bet she decided at least two years ago.
she's wanted to join everything so much... how badly did cover fuck her up man what the hell is wrong with management
So was she pretty much avoiding streaming because she felt like shit lying about things being ok?
>>64651 Never
Gura has never been so genuine on stream until now
>going to eat a lot of strawberries after graduating
So she's gonna collab with Dooby and Nimi mostly?
>>64651 She will graduate without ever having talked to anyone in Advent outside of a few moments in branch wide collabs where she couldn't just completely avoid them, and Adventfags will keep seething over it forever.
>>64658 no she avoided streaming because she hated management
I still hate it when she answers my question when I'm just a greyfag
60k DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>64672 She was plenty genuine in her first two years or so.
>>64672 greyfag spotted
>>64681 Nobody talks a word about her in any of their splits, well I dunno about shiori's. No one outside this thread cares.
I wonder how many subtle not subtle shots at Cover is her reincarnation's lore video going to have
>>64703 Gura was a non entity for 2 years, that's normal.
>>64721 Hence this retard talking point being dragged on, like any of those girls actively tried to reach out to her outside of maybe once.
>Shion mention
Rust stream not yet out LFG
would be so funny if she went indie and started to stream regularly.
BLUE QUEENS UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER
>>64658 She really needs to want to do a thing to do a thing. So if she fell out of love with Hololive for like two years plus, the backstory doesn't have to be complicated.
<talking about street fighter i know the faggot fake gura simp who said her song at fest had nothing to do about aqua is over at reddittower but i just wanted to say BLOWN THE FUCK OUT she has copied Aqua (her oshi, you faggot) her entire career right down to graduation get fucked
>>64748 she barely streamed as sen, she might stream more not having management on her ass but she's still probably gonna disappear for long periods of time. Gonna pull a sakuna, basically
>gura/notGura >streaming
i really can understand gura, is like >yeah guys, im going to haha *wink* see you around *wink wink* the ocean is BIG >btw i want to go out to the great canyon and eat strawberries is like she's setting the expectation that she'll do 1 or 2 streams and will go dead silent again
ORIGINAL SONG
>>64748 >change environment >change behavior Non-zero chance.
>>64780 i really can't*
So she finally got Tatsuro Yamashita?
>a stupid fucking Song Fuck this
kc edwards?
Pebbles...
>>64793 Nevermind >Casey Edwards What the heck lol
casey edwards
>>64793 lmaoooo nope it's the ironic dmc music guy
>>64780 I think she just wants to rest and live as much as possible before making another decision, many people in this thread have assumed that, since Dooby and Nimi debuted practically right as they left, that it will be the same with others in the future.
>>64790 Pika streamed on twitch...
Koseki...
>>64780 before myth debuts, everyone including them probably thought that mori would've been the big star, and they would've been mid streamers
>Literally the only reason she didn't graduate 2-3 years ago is cause of Casey Edwards lmao
>>64748 no fucking way, she is a quitter. She dropped so many games and projects. She can't keep thing going.
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WHO?- OH THE DEVIL TRIGGER DUDE
>>64814 Nope. Stopped in 2022.
Oh, Mazumaro. Good for him.
>fully animated mv
>>64748 >she comes back >Collabs with nimi semi regularly >Plays games with her 4 male friends everytime she isn't around nimi Yeah, dat be the shit nigga Also the captcha on this site is dying from one retard spamming right now, get me out of here!
>Myth Bad End dude got a gig That's nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euPfAilSpuU
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mv animated by this guy?
Wow...... a song...... Gura I kneel...
>>64849 Wouldn't be the first time. It also makes sense why he's been fucking quiet and hasn't done shit with the part 2 he had posted last year
>(1) >cuckposting
Today's 8chan stats are out. The highest PPH today was 5940 posts. The lowest PPH of the day is about 2160. Yesterday's high was 4689 posts, and the low was around 2156. And here are the top 10 boards of the day. /v/ had an insane amount of users today, almost 10k. /wooo/ is getting Wrestlemania buff today.
full color bros...
>>64826 >Cover management randomly banned her from playing the in-game radio in GTA on stream >stops playing GTA Whoa!
How disconnected is cover HQ from the EN side? I have a feeling they think they have the EN scene for granted and don't do anything real to fix whatever's happening in the EN branch. I mean, the fucking fujo is still there in charge of the twatter account. Do they need another grim era 2.0 to wake the fuck up?
will she be able to talk about her private business meeting after now that she graduated?
Another subtle hint from the genius Gawr Gura
I think she's hinting en5
>>64871 Blame the competition being so ass. If western vtubers are so trash there's no need to try to fix anything.
>>64870 based beebs
>>64813 i mean she's the one saying "the ocean is big" for the ppl who's saying they'll miss her.. tho i guess she could just go back to make videos and thats it
>>64877 >will she make drama for me after graduating? Retard king.
>>64884 Redebut, NG+ for her
>>64865 because a /xivg/ troon forgot to dilate and now is spambotting the threads constantly
>>64870 >ignores her for 2 years
>>64847 why would you need captcha? i havent typed into one to post ever since i came here
>>64897 She'll be motivated for 2 months max and then get bored and go back to not streaming or she'll say something controversial, get heat, and then go into hiding again.
BAKEMONOGATARI REFERENCE!??
>>64870 Lol, Biboo nothing but a nice kouhai to the end, while she doesnt give a fuck about her. I like her character and its gotten her far.
>>64910 because I came back for the gawr gura announcement Someone literally spammed with 1300 unique ids into /v/
what if the indie avengers shit was real?
>>64869 rdr2, minecraft, kingdom come, popy playtime... Let me guess, you want more.
>>64870 Do you think none of the holos has ever seen the MV too? It's so sad that Gura is like this
>>64906 Jannies had to put captcha on /v/ because of that
TRAUMA FUELED OMEGATROON HATE SONG COMING
so what is the final project?
>>64956 A song
Nimi... please watch your oshi shes crying...
>Trauma dumped to Casey Edwards and he made it into a song My sides
looks to be a sad song
>>64941 The only Indie with an active schedule is Nimi, Dooby is mentally checked out, Gura hasn't gave two shits about V-Tubing since 2022, not very good prospects Unless you also want to include Doki and Mint, in that case, lol, lmao.
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>>64936 yeah i know
I just realized that GG got sponsored to play a game from ex-blizzard artist youtuber I follow. Strange crossover.
>>64964 Northernlion is crying??
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Gura dropping her spaghet.
>>64972 >ex-blizzard i thought she said the artist worked for League of legends
>>64968 >looks to be a sad song > Yeah gives me Suisei Ghost vibes from the art
Did she mention how many streams she is doing?
>>64926 Why does Gura hate Advent?
>>64993 No. She did say she got a lot of collab requests though.
>>64993 I'm expecting 2 at most
Why does she keep talking about Casey? Casey Edwards is not that big a deal lol plenty of holo girls have made songs with bigger names and they don't keep going on and on about how much they loved talking to them and sharing life stories
>>64973 I didnt know baldman became bald woman
>>64333 >Gura without the twitter audience: 62k >Homo 3D with the twitter audience: sub 9K Gosh
>>65006 She loves him
So the biggest project was just a trauma dump? I will just assume this happen when you're the mascot of the EN branch of your corpo and you aren't allowed at all to feel genuine sad with your fans and maybe(that will never be confirmed) your genmates
>>64999 And she only has 11 days left. I wonder what was she doing?
>ash again
>>65006 I mean they couldn't get her Tatsuro so Casey Edwards is the next best thing for her specifically.
>>65015 >(1)
>>64900 The company >The company The company >The company The company >The company The company Yeah, I can see they are not doing shit to really focus first into fix the girls situation. I guess they will discover sooner or later that without the girls, they don't have a company.
>>65015 she hasn't talked about the meetings with the fat rich men after holo went public. I assume that's what broke her.
btw the funnel from Gura ending will make Nimi beat every HoloEN girl today other than Gura
>>65041 Fix what?
she straight uploaded the song not even making a waiting room
>>65046 >the fat rich men yeah me
We just enjoyers
>fucked over the Premier jannys based
>not even a premier what the FUCK Gura
I can't believe she ended the stream. It is not even an hour yet.
>gura destroying black ships HMMMMMM
Gura hates numbers and numberfags, not even a premier kek Honestly explains why she was never happy being the face of HoloEN
Damn, what's this singing voice?
deep voice gooba
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I SAY FUCK THE PREMIER NIGGA, STRAIGHT UP FUCK'EM
It's not bad, but it feels like a song I would hear in Worlds, you know the League shit
This sounds like League of Legends music
The shitposting (1)s are out in full force huh
<BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE COVER SHAREHOLDERS
she's burning down cover
>>65089 >>65086 lmao it's true though
BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN
That was ass...
To be a last project this was kind weak
Rape
>TEAR IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN >TEAR IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN >TEAR IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN
>>65115 When she said project I assumed more than just a singular song. But if this shit was a year and a half in the making it probably needed a lot of pushing cover
It definitely feels like a last project, but I think being on the works for long for that execution does bring it down. Nvm the fact that sounds like a League song, but it is good, probably will hit some good numbers by next week.
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Seems weird to only lose ~700 viewers to Gura's 63k BIG PROJECT ANNOUNCEMENT stream
This is how you shit on dramawhore
>>65115 It's a big FUCK YOU to Cover, couldn't have asked for anything better besides her disclosing in full detail how management has fucked her.
>>65136 >he thinks the song about tearing down corpos is "shitting on dramawhores" Lmao get fucked Covershill
>>65139 >It's a big FUCK YOU to Cover It's a big fuck you to drama niggas, not to Cover
>Fauna is graduating soon and doing one of her final Minecraft collabs right now? Sorry I can't join I have to do a uhhhhhhhhh random zatsudan stream >Mumei is graduating? I'm gonna shoooooooooooot Not a good look
>>65139 >how management has fucked her. literally?...
>>65139 I'm not feeling it.
Is this how it ends? with loli selfcest?
>>65139 mori shit more songs in a year. Is Cover really the problem?
>>64969 >Gura hasn't gave two shits about V-Tubing She literally said she still loves vtubing and that she'd be coming back really soon free from Cover's clutches, anti
To be honest it's kinda sad her last project is such sad thing and not something happy. I don't blame gura for this, Fuck you Cover, you literally ruined a happy ending for gura and her fans
kinda disappointed with the new song but tbh I have a bias with her singing slow acoustic songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMAOZZwSdvs
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>>65151 >>65163 >>65165 >>65176 t. lack of media literacy, this is what SEA education gets you
>>65177 Naivety is only cute on kids
im gonna need an autistic schizo breakdown of the lyrics and imagery for this MV
>>65115 Were you expecting a random sololive? Retard.
>>65185 >4PID >Absolute retard Having IDs is the best
>>65185 Nigga, (you) made 4 post all shitting on cover. How bad are you hurt over Fungus Covid's graduation sister?
>Gura has literally just shat on dramawhore without an ounce of shame This shark is too strong
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It's pure kino...
Predictions for the legs on this song?
>>65197 its just League of Legends fake meaningful, none of the lyrics actually mean anything
what? he also graduated?
>>65212 1m within the next 3 days
we watching bibo now?
>>65189 Why do you hate Gura so much? >>65204 >if you point out Cover fumbled Gura's career you must be a nijisister Nice logical fallacy
>>65212 1M in 2 days (in my dream) or 1M before her last day
>>65212 Excellent legs, 10m in a year
>>65212 Probably 10M in a year.
Ok, but what does it mean? ONLY clinical psychiatrists and philosophers answer, please
>>65224 Biboo now and Bae and Mumei OW2 in 1H30
Her real voice is amazing
>>65224 Nimi.
>>65224 You don't have to ask
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>>65247 Biboo love the song
>>65239 >Please stop saying I'm burned out and I hate vtubing, I love it please believe me!
>>65229 Cover managed to get Casey Edwards to be Gura's producer in the first place
Biboo like it
>>65239 Senzawa twitter account
>>65278 Cover did jackshit, watch the stream.
>>65227 I guess he was 'lucky' for once. The timing with gura and nobody giving a fuck about niggersanji will make his graduation a silent neligible wet fart.
Ame first cute
>>65248 Yeah, I hope she feels more comfortable with using it.
>>65278 no they didnt she slid in his DMs
>>65278 She reached out to him.
Can I do this? 🐴..
>>65320 🦓
>>65269 Don't you have anything better to do than schizo out for hours on end?
gurame first
Ok but do you unironically believe that she will stream? and before you answer "YES", remember that you said the same about Dooby
>>65229 Why do you hate Gura so much as to want her being unhappy? She wants to rest, as we do all. You only want another banner like Nimi was, what do you want to gain with this? HoloEN ain't going anywhere.
I'm gonna miss ID's when we go back to 4ch
>>65341 >4ch wtf is that
>>65336 >(1)
>gura came to hololive with huge numbers >gura thinks she'll leave hololive and not have huge numbers
john cat alarm
>>65320 🐴 -> 🦄
>>65347 4cuck
>>65327 ? That's what I think the message of the song is.
>>65268 she has started saying the "absolute cinema" thing right before her birthday and now she can't stop saying it. She said like 8 different times in that stream
She will reincarnate But not under Senzawa name Without a loli model With a deeper voice
>>65334 >image loads incredible slow why is 8ch like this bros....
>>65341 we used to have ID, but janny took it from us
>>65351 She had a 1k average pre holo...
Damn this is scary a motivated Gura to prove the haters wrong is one scary Shark/Fish/Whatever she will be. "I'll do it again" is a scary line to all
>>65365 She's been talking about having big boobs and being jealous of holomems with tits for a while now.
Suisei Who?
>>65139 >shitting on cover Sorry it doesnt fit your narrative dramanigger but she was clearly talking about people shitting on her as a vtuber
>>65336 about a month or so.. because even if she starts again win the hopes that she'll find a peaceful ending for herself.. indies, other corpos and fleshie retards like assmongoloid are going to JUMP onto her once she reincarnates, and will be the same fucking cicle again unless she actually put her big shark t-shirt and tell everyone to fuck off ... that being said >(1)
>>65361 She has been using that term all year, it is not a recent thing.
>>65394 >and tell everyone to fuck off She just won't respond to dms. She already has experience with that.
>>65392 Britanny Venti finally got her response, she can quit rolling in her grave now
>>65369 >no ads >no pass Janny can only afford potatos for the server.
>>65369 Stop using .moe you idiot
>>65385 >Cover can't do no wrong! The song can't possibly be a fuck you to the corpo! D-D-Dramanigger!
>>65369 Are you using .moe or .se?
>>65369 Are you using .moe or .se?
>>65417 NTA but I use moe because se cursed me with perma namefag
>>65424 >>65430 Erm... why did it send twice?
>>65417 >>65424 i didnt even know there was a difference....
Mori has a gun
>65421 Holy melty kek, get filtered dramacuck
Did Nimi btw get like barely any funnel? Looks like it all went to Biboo and Mori.
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Guests for Kiara's live are out, literally everyone in EN except for Mumei and Gura (which she had already made clear) and Bae because of course lol
>>65377 She wasn't really a streamer back then, just a youtuber who streamed every once in a while. She is never going to get that low of a number again. Unless she decides to completely vanish, people will find her.
>>65470 She's talked ab out Bae. It's fucking Cover's fault for Bae not being there. Hell, it's Cover's fault that Gura, Mumei and Fauna aren't there too.
>so retarded that it can't even reply correctly the state of dramafags in 2025
>>65239 Can I weigh in? I find myself uniquely qualified as both an analyst and a therapist. An analrapist, if you will.
>>65452 each domain seems to have its own separate set of nodes
>>65470 That yellow flower is still unaccounted for btw, count the number of guests vs the number of flowers
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>>65469 I didn't really check but maybe here
>>65469 Blindchama?
>>65470 She made it clear with Bae as well. The delay also made it not possible with Bae because she was on break.
>>65421 is this a bot?
it really does sound like a league of legends song
>>65502 bvtm pedocord
>>65503 Captcha soon...
>>65493 That's obviously Ame
>>65390 my wife
>>65493 Not happening.
>>65394 What's worse is she no longer has the Hololive walled garden to deflect most of the bullshit. It will be interesting to see if she can tank all the aggro coming her way solo.
>>65516 0% chance
>>64722 green was fauna, blue was gura, the yellow was ame, brown was moom.. who is the pink piece?
>>65533 Mousey
>>65517 calm down mikochi
>>65533 (You)
>>65522 Aggro to her? Not really, no one hates Gura and probably will not hate any other reincarnation of hers. Aggro to Cover more like, something something how dare they, something something Hololive is dead, something something let's all watch Mythic and Phase Connect bros
>>65541 holy shit...
>>65239 Same with Reflect, internal conflict between two sides of herself, this is more so from the perspective of the other Gura, as seen by the clothes she's wearing in that scene. She's literally reminding herself of who she was, after what she had become, taking both perspectives as she leaves. I genuinely think the song and the video got changed as she thought of leaving, hence why the imagery feels more close to an ending.
>>65492 interesting, wouldn't .moe be the fastest one since it has the 3rd dns server?
>>65559 .moe probably gets the most traffic
>>65559 moe has the most traffic
>>65533 Mococo
10K DORYAAAAAAAAA
just mori and biboo playing rust today? guess with enreco coming up soon many might not want to commit to another week long event
I wonder if Gura will outright say she has bipolar disorder after reincarnating.
>>65576 jp is still sleeping
>>65077 >ships set sails of jealousy Cover is jealous of guras success...
>>65588 >has ina in that video section Ina was jealous of gura's success
>>65522 Will 'they' still be interested in her? She will not be a holo anymore. Most of those faggot are only interested in destroying hololive and the 'cultural war'. I don't see them pestering ame or fauna.
>(1)
>>65544 Cover as a corpo deals with shit on a daily basis. It will take more then a Gura graduation to destroy the company. As for notGura resureccting, its not about dealing with hate, but instead dealing with all the drama that is coming. The indy streaming world is fueled by dramashit and notGura coming back will be like a lightning rod for those who want to leech.
>>65601 QRD?
What the fuck is this Rimworld what am I looking at
>>65616 Kanata got a work overload, went to talk to YAGOO about it. In the tea time there was also some EN members talking about their own crunch and burnout, she believes that it will get better soon.
Uh did they just delete the "bau bau" board?
so... how would you rate gura holo carrer?
I'll miss Gura. I wish I had the power to make things different.
>>65654 uhh baused?
>>65601 Be honest, do you believe her?
>>65654 No, on my end its fine.
>>65665 I mean, can you do better than becoming the literal face of the company? A perfect 10/10, the only thing that could have topped what she did at Cover was if she became president or some shit lmao
Both Mori and Biboo got hit by the slower version of the engine. Aia also got hit by the engine (yes, even at aub1k)
>>65618 rimworld is a good game. You can enslave niggers. Make them addict to drug when they are young. Harvest their organs when they grow up. After they die, send their corpses to butcher house to feed other niggers.
>>65694 both of their graphs look completely fine?
>>65644 There's so much bootleg shit here kek.
Didn't realize Gura got 2m on twitter now. Last time I checked she was stuck at 1.9m during Graduation announcement.
Clearly a song about how she wants to continue being a content creator. "waves cant put out my flame" and "death will never write my name" surely mean this. Parts of the song are addressed to her antis: the "they say the memory of me is fading" and "dont tell me everyone around me is waiting" are clearly about people speculating on her long periods of not streaming. She then defiantly says "while you all pretend if this is the end, I'll do it again" which I think shows that she feels she can still be a successful content creator even after graduation. She also says "and no more hands upon my words, they only speak for me" and "for all the ones who try to silence thunder" which lines up with what she has said previously about how because of her status as top vtuber in Hololive she always felt like she had to act a certain way that wasn't her true self. Whether that's because of viewers placing their expectations on her or because cover placed restrictions on her is up in the air. Finally she repeats "If this is the end, I'll do it again, I'm the wave that pulls you down and under" which again shows that she wants to continue to be a content creator and that she will continue to pull her fans down and under. Overall you can definitely feel the emotionality of the song and that she is using the song to communicate in a way she wouldn't be able to otherwise whether its because she best communicates with music or because she's can't out and out say what she wants to say
>>65720 What is that title? Looks Al generated?
>>65720 TO THE MOON who?
>>65751 I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened
I thought this thread was good for the first couple of days? We’re back to the cuckposting, calling Gura a whore for leaving and botting accusations? Let’s gooooo, it’s like we never left
>>65654 i thought they all migrated to holotower
>>65758 I assume it's a gunpla building stream, HG is high grade which is a type of model, BF is build fighters which is a specific Gundam series, Bearguy is a Gundam from BF
idk this holorust thing is so neutered still not understanding the point
>>65780 You already said this, why keep watching?
>>65780 The point is hololive girls doing fun things together, like every other great stream in the history of hololive
>>65775 Kek that makes sense
>>65790 They should have sex on stream.
If you could reset time right now to when Myth started, would you do it?
>>65817 Nah, I wouldn't like to wait 3 years of Advent. Advent is cool.
>>65817 only if advent debuted a year after council like what should've happened
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>>65817 Sure why not.
at least they retweeted
>>65239 Looks like the scene from Thor 4.
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>>65853 QUICK BURY THAT SHIT WITH HOMO POSTS PPL TO KNOW ABOUT DUBAIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGR WATCH DUBAIS YOU FUCKING INCELS OOK OOK OOK OOK
biboo about to pass nimi
>>65239 Women issues that men should really not bother with.
id check i hope its orange
>>65869 kek fuck whoever handles that account
>>65880 oh nyo
>>65880 no...
>>65869 Do not debase Gorillas this way, stick to chimps
Nimi is fucking trash and will forever be trash. Biboo > Nimi, always has been always will be. Nimi can't ever beat Nimi in CCV
>>65906 Nimi can't ever beat Biboo in CCV*
>>65906 >Nimi can't ever beat Nimi in CCV No shit retard
>>65869 Sadly, that's what the fujo is planning.
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>>65906 >>65912 kek point and laugh at this retard
>>65897 sorry, i need to get new images
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>>65924 IDs are great
Nimi will never be an idol. She will never be a Holo. She will never do a Birthday/Anniversary live She will never be popular. She will never be able to sing well. She will never be able to dance well She will never inspire people. She already decided she was going to spite her followers by saying she doesn't ever think of them as friends. She will never go back to schedules She'll never stream regularly She will always come up with excuses after excuses to not stream She'll never give a shit about her audience She'll never do projects She'll never be relevant She couldn't even save her cat Her "gaming idol baku" will always be a lie She'll forever be a worthless whore who left Hololive for no reason other than greed She is nothing but a shameless grifting larper. People are finally realizing this and she's slowly declining into irrelevancy while losing her fans due to her shamelessness
Amazing
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>ENReco recap featuring Fauna and Mumei >no FauMei posting Guess that fag was either another shitposter that would samefag or he moved over to tower.
>b68bd9 >🚫 >filter ID+
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>>65985 amazing feature
>>65983 I think that a good chunk of people currently on Tower will move here eventually if 4chan doesn't get back, that fucking place is a carbon copy of REDDIT, REDDIT!
>>65983 Naplings mostly stay in /uuu/ now.
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Oh shit i finally found the 4chan replacement.
>>65983 Faumeifags were almost all naplings and they're all on holotower. The admin of that board had to hop into /uuu/ earlier today when they were having their usual thread tug of war between the faumei shipper and some other people.
>>66013 nah, it's still a long way to go, but it's bretty fukken gud
>>66032 To be fair the Faumei shippers are exceedingly mentally ill for some reason. It's not even enough for them to just ship Faumei anymore. Shit's not fucking normal.
>>65983 I didn't see it. Nimi is still live.
>>66041 every fucking time
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>Red board >IDs >50 mb file sizes >Almost no captcha Wtf, this is all we asked for and more.
>>66041 Classic lmao
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Of course. Cover deserves everything that's coming for them.
>>66041 Not even an hour
>>66041 for the love FUCKING god...
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>>66041 Predictable woman
>>66041 this is fake actually
>>66041 pathetic
Anything but brown please
>>66042 I wonder if they're female, some of mumei's female artists are kinda like that too.
>>66066 Purple is fine too I guess
>>66041 Kronii was right in calling the Fujo intern a bitch, and she should have not just called her a bitch but a fucking whore piece of shit
>>65985 got so mad he had to resort to his canned post. what a retard
Didn't Gura said she'll stream again soon after the song release to talk about it?
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>4 hours of rimworld AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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This seems pretty good
I completely forgot about the "multiple image per posts" thing
https://x.com/hololive_En guys i think it was bait
>>66133 200k DORYAAAAAA
Ash Again really shows the difference between working with random nip producers and musicians that actually speak English and work in the language. I hope Cover puts in the effort to build up a rolodex of English music producers going forward.
>>66163 You know damn well that's not going to happen.
>>66140 you respect manager too much
>>65817 Yes but mostly so that omega fag would be found dead a literal day after myth debut and im not even joking
>>66049 >>Red board It's not red though We can post NSFW pics but it needs to be spoilered
>>66125 >>66137 huh actually natty today
>>63252 >Sandiago loses >Hololive>Nikke >Dodgers loses >Lost because Gura graduated
>>66041 Yup, if cover can't even fix this shit first, they can't even think of expanding or whatever 'the company' plan the other fujo has planned. They should get rid first of those useless faggots and the staff obviously maliciously handling things in detriment of the girls.
>>66140 they did retweet it, what do you mean
>>66163 It sounds like an imagine dragons song give me my fucking jap vocaloid slop any day
>>66140 no? the retweet is right there
>>66163 It sounds like league music
Nimi is streaming much later now right?
>>66140 Anon, if you blocked him (like I did) his retweet will not show up.
>>66191 A lot of the jap songs are slop too, most of the things that really hit for me had at minimum the holo themselves writing the lyrics. Lookin at you mori and risu
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new trinity just dropped
>>66053 As always nothing changes, whatever side gura is on is the right side. I love the hololive girls that actually stood by gura (and the jps) but everything else could and SHOULD be much better
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>>66214 that explains it... unbelievable
>>66212 you have the homo blocked or something, check https://nitter.space/hololive_En
>>66212 either you blocked him or he blocked you
>>66191 >>66205 >it sounds like [Super Popular Thing That People Actually Listen To] Okay? We aren't trying to resurrect Elvis Presley but in anime girl form here. That's not the lowest standard we're aiming for because that's kind of retarded. The goal is to bring out the best in your English-speaking talents that want to produce music, and Cover's connection of nip trash actively do harm to them because they don't have an ear for English singers.
Can we just skip to June already cus I want to see how cooked Yagoo is in shareholders meeting.
>>66211 She's starting to stream a little longer on average
Test
>>66256 I find it absurd that people are complaining about how original gura songs sound Her first fucking song is reflect a song so fucking odd that even the jps were talking about how they didnt expect it. Her second serious original song was this which is also not something other talents have really done for original songs Dont get me wrong id love anything gura puts out, and i like idol songs but would you REALLY think that a idol song would be more original than this in the context of gura and hololive just because normies love these types of songs?
Nimi ticked again
Eerie how the thread just randomly dies every now and again.
>>66256 Mori, Bae and Kiara don't have issues producing orisongs.
>>66360 for better or for worse we will only find our former glory (and former schizos) when we return to 4chin
>>66256 For as long as HoloEN has existed it has had members releasing original songs in English. Also most of them are wank.
I can't remember, has there been a full Promise collab(of current lineup) yet since Mumei's announcement? Like that Dota 2 stream Fauna did for their last Promise collab.
>>66235 >>66241 KILL THIS FUCKING BITCH WHAT THE FUCK
>Nimi is gonna beat every holo stream with Gura funnel except for Gura. I can't find the post but apologize.
>>66241 disgusting
>>66384 I remember Mumei or Bae talking about some collab after Fauna graduation but you know
>>66384 isnt bae on a break or something
>>66384 no but that's mostly because bae just came back from a break
>>66384 Not yet. Bae only just returned from her vacation. They'll do it because Kronii doesn't hate Bae like she hates Fauna.
>>66459 were so back
>>66459 Did Gura get impregnated by Elon?
>>66383 "Original songs" produced by niptrash and sounding like generic niptrash with only lyrical input from the hololivers. Not sure what it would need for holofans to get working ears to recognize that the idolshit put out by hololive is unoriginal and derivative.
>>66477 >hololivers
just got back from a holiday to see 4chan died gura graduating and were all gay now
>>66241 Can the sharty hack the trannies at holoen too?
>>66402 Biboo?
>>66476 She is joining the Trump administration
>>65278 it's cooked that it's entirely believable that cover, despite their huge influence, will not help talents with things like this, and instead will only use their approved slop japanese producers
>>66504 He mean nimi lost
Mumei not being able to crack 10k is sad.
>>66459 That account got blue because the fish tweet. Same way Nimi got blue after the cat tweet got big, same thing also happened to Not-Chloe. Wouldn't read anything into it
test
Are you even allowed to discuss Guras song at Reddittower or is that not being hugbox enough
>>66524 When was the last time she did, aside from karaoke?
>>66524 >overwatch >bae >heavy overlap >zero drama around her graduation not too surprising
>>66547 TEST FAILED
CS2 Ame with Mumei? Damn ex-Holo fans will feast soon
Vshojo is doing 3D lives.
>>66583 she streams on youtube?
>>66548 I called it slop without getting banned so yeah you can.
>>66590 Don't know. It just came up in my recommended.
>>66583 >548 waiting VShojo is going to learn a painful lesson about the tastes of their audiences and who does and doesn't like idol culture.
>>66517 Oh, it's the Nimischizo
>>66590 Suddenly she does because that's how actual corpo vtubers do their 3D streams
>>66609 This move is pure audience expansion. Hololive has grown an audience ripe for the taking
>>66609 didnt kson get like 4k for her anniversary live truck thing she did last year?
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If holoen is dead then shouldn't more people be watching the alternatives?
>>66630 An audience ripe for the taking that 99% of the time picks Holos because they're the maximum exponent of idol culture in V-Tubing, yeah.
>>66630 They talk too much about wanting to suck connor's dick to take that audience.
>>66636 Twitch is also dying.
>>66597 Of course you wouldn't get banned reddittower only deletes criticism of Cover. Call it for what it is, a call-out song revealing all the shit management did to take away Gura's joy of streaming, and see how fast they delete your post.
>>66636 >alternatives >twitch
>>66644 Only twitch is dying.
>>66636 Mumei and Gura haven't graduated to their new accounts yet, what alternatives?
>>66636 The alternatives is indie, not another corpo
Ash Again might beat REFLECT on speed to hit 1M
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>he thinks his liggers or shit corpos will get any boost and not just all former holos
Disagreements with management weren't actually the main reason for all the graduations. The girls treated hololive like a stepping stone like Yagoo wanted and went on to their dream careers, but they choose not to talk about it. Ame got a prestigious foley artist gig and is working on an award winning show Fauna is a top .01% streamer Mumei is becoming a marine biologist and fulfilling her dreams of chasing whales Gura got a gig in mainstream entertainment. This is what she means by you'll see her again, but this is also how she dodges all the internet attention she doesn't want by switching over to a completely new audience.
>>66660 but vshojo are indies???
>>66645 >>66653 8 posts and they all reek of pagpag, that's a record.
>>66663 >not the main reason Watch streams. Any Gura member stream, any Kiara stream.
>>66660 Indies on twitch are doing even worse...
>>66645 You came back only to write more fanfiction? Jesus.
>>66668 How much did Yagoo pay you to defend Cover?
https://x.com/houshoumarine/status/1913782934559211961 Marine's gonna stream on tiktok today
18 more minutes and this is Nimi's longest stream other than her charity.
>>66676 vedal and his harem is pretty hot right now no?
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>>66681 ...gross, but let's see how she fares off.
>>66679 How much did holotower break you pajeet?
>>66663 Aqua was the one who broke the dam and started all this and she was also the one Yagoo treated like a daughter What has she done since graduating? The same thing she did the last 3 years, nothing
>>66681 >new direction
>>66690 Not a vtuber
>>66690 Vedal kinda, but his circle is doing worse than everyone in that pic.
>>66693 The alternatives is ex-Holo indies that stream more than once per month
>>66650 (me) Unironically, Im pretty sure some Kick streamers are doing better than them.
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>>66713 Kick is so botted and altered and DISGUSTING that there is no point in trying to have any conversation related to them, they're the Nazino Island of streaming.
>>66583 I thought idol culture was bad?
>>66725 Cover had merch too although I guess Sakwas isnt chink trash so you can actually still get it in America kek
>>66661 >Ash Again might beat REFLECT on speed to hit 1M How fast did Reflect hit it? Be funny if the no premiere thing actually helped it's numbers
>>66708 It's more like a ping pong of the same audience. >Nimi doesn't stream I'm gonna watch GG >Gura doesn't stream I'm gonna watch Nimi 🦄
>>66743 Even funnier. The alternatives is ex-Holo indies that stream more than once per month and ONLY if other Holo streamers aren't on. Try the golden age of indie v-tubing
>>66693 meh one of them will get a big nimi raid
>>66728 I know they are botted to all shit, but they are backed by actual money for their top/middle earners. I watch two fleshies from there that are definitely not making up their income, which is not crazy, but its real.
Biboo's fucking DEAD
>>66757 i hope they retain more viewers than mouse
>>66742 I think it was 10 hours
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Oppai ice cream is popular
>>66782 I think Raora just wants to taste Fuwawa's tits.
>>66788 Imagine a Fuwaora yobai party
>>66780 She might have looked around and realized it was botting/viewfarm hitting her, and got scared. It's not like she has someone like Cover to talk to youtube and make sure her channel is safe
>Baby Mint raid
>>66750 >ONLY if other Holo streamers aren't on not really
>>66809 someone should tell her that youtube gives zero fucks about bots
>>66704 This is Marine's personal new direction. She hates her fans from her streaming days so this is one of the ways she's trying to shake them off without telling them to leave.
>when life kill you it also give you lemon - Koseki "Biboo" Bijou
>>66750 >ONLY if other CGDCT Holo streamers aren't on Fixed that for you, no one is going to move from a Nimi stream to a Shiori or ERB, or worse, JP stream.
Ayy can't believe Marineschizo found us in here
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>>66877 Well, everyone is noticing the tower is pretty shit, so I guess that includes schizos too.
Rimworld is officially Nimi's longest stream yet.
>>66899 She also didn't piss...
didnt stream long enough for something more concrete but the bleed only seems to go in one direction
>>66904 No ice water.
Hard to tell where the funnels went when they're actually all botted to shit outside of Mumei
>>66980 No its not, they went to Biboo and Mori, then both got botted about 30-40m in.
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>>67022 vspo en is still a thing?
>>67022 wait.. VSPO! EN had a second gen?
Why does Nimi always go long hours for autism simulator games
I'm psychoanalyzing the lyrics and MV and you can't stop me.
>biboo calling out metagaming faggots shes a good rock
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>>67072 all look fine except for biboo's
10K DORYA!!!
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>>67056 Whats the verdict?
>>67137 It's not really normal for streams to continue inclining past the two-hour mark. Things usually settle down after the first hour.
>>67022 They talked to males just now...
>>66877 Why is Marine not streaming on Youtube if she likes her fans so much?
>>67162 🦄->🐴
>>67162 🐴
Mori sure seem exited that bib brought another horse
>>67205 ashley is mori's second account
>>67183 Hey, at least she streams. Or are you saying that Suisei hates her fans too?
>>67234 But she doesn't stream. Suisei tells her fans what's going on unlike Marine and has made it clear that streams are not a regular thing. Marine on the other hand has said that she will increase streams this year but then did the opposite.
Bib put poop on inner's face
>>67259 What? You dont watch her members where she rants about the usual stuffs and her health problem? Tbf, that was last month.
>kronii sounds happy today
>>66832 Tell that to BraveUS/EU girls getting demobitized for 6 months because botted channels
>>67333 She has not been sick for a while now and appeared on a collab without problems 3 days ago. I'm sure going silent and coming back with a fucking tiktok stream is what someone who absolutely loves their fans does.
https://youtu.be/1_sNbc3Rfzo
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Huh, they still use their models?
>>67340 she sounded ok yesterday with GG and Sana,so she probably solved whatever the fuck happened between her and her family
>>67364 damn it's been a while since I watched 22/7 still can't believe they put out simulsubs without song lyrics
>kronii shooting down the "she's next" rrats
Both Biboo and Mori bled to Kanata but are already climbing back up
>>67456 🦄 queen tax
>>67430 I wouldn't put too much worth into that, mumei said the same thing around ames graduation
>>67430 >believing them at face value when Gura confirmed they are forced to lie on stream and pretend everything is okay
Today, I will remind them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY2kOpCtfQ
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>4chan /v/ PPH average peak = 4,611 >8chan global PPH peak = 5,940
>>67430 she literally said she was fine and was happy that there is ppl in holo that doesnt want her to leave, >>67477 >(1)
>>67520 Whatever you say. Actions speak louder than words and randomly collabing with someone you haven't worked with directly in almost 4 years is a gigantic red flag.
>>67541 The biggest redflag is (1) to be honest.
>>67547 (1) + retarded take yeah
>>67547 It's (3) now, :).
>admits that xe is shitposting just to get Yous Just like home
>>67541 >randomly kek
Moom raid Bib
It is not a healthy sign for HoloEN that Gura, Mumei, and Nimi keep mogging everyone else in numbers.
Been trade offer to moom >You play Rust >I play Overwatch
>>67579 Truth hurts huh? You can go back to the Holotower reddit hugbox any time.
>>67627 where do you people come from?
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Bib should sell her drawings for scrap!
>>67633 And…?
>>67541 How do you expect them to collab when the movie was literally released 5 months ago?
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>Sakutan Still trending down >Nimi Was stabilizing for a bit, slope is turning negative. >Dooby Had a spike, but still trending down >Rica Slow recline Brand can't survive without girls Girls can't survive without brands
>>67637 If you plap the router hard enough you'll get a new ID, promise.
The horse is so fucking dead
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>>67627 >Gura, Mumei Graduation buff. >Nimi Literally impossible to tell because of the viewfarm. Even then, the only way she edges out HoloEN is if we compare average CCV and not peak CCV. Peak CCV is about raid meta or relaying the box from start to finish as it were.
>>67639 unironic raid, an admin on the towa site said the quick increase in shitposting directly matches up with an increase in site traffic
>>67683 Because of Fungus Covid graduation?
>>67669 Thanks.
>>67639 Judging from the fact that all of them keep seething at the other place completely out of the blue, I think they got the boot out of the towa.
>>67707 na it was during guras stream, the usual browncord posts shitposting about gura
>>67683 You’re mentally ill dude. Why does you live in a numbers thread 24/7 to begin with?
is so funny how angry these monkeys get when you call them out lmao
>Why does you live
These niggers are even more retarded than the average BVTM
>current time >ESL level rising SEAbrowns aren't beating the allegations.
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Ash Again 1M views in half a day possible?
>>67791 Half a day no, in 24 hours probably.
>>67743 why are people not allowed to have a tab with /#/ open while theyre on their PC?
>>67791 Maybe. Seems to be picking up speed.
who is this person kronii was talking about? is it a cousin
>>67791 If I remember correctly, Reflect released in the morning in the US and hit 1m in the evening. Considering what time it is now and when it released, how fast it gets to 1m now depends on how much the JP audience still cares about Gura.
Chances Ash Again reaches 100 million views?
>>63021 which one is number 1
>>67912 Aqua at 3.4m.
>>63021 Damn, Gura is truly gonna burn it down™
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Sora will solve the water temple today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GzfMTRFig
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>>63622 We literally saw yesterday the fuckton of jpniki just lurking in her chat watching her, despite over a DOZEN other Japanese povs streaming the same game. If you still insist on denying that Bijou has a strong and sizable jp mindshare now, go fuck yourself.
>>63681 Oh now that you mention it who won the EN Gold yesterday?
Are we going to get a Graduation live from an EN?
>>67956 Nice, ty for letting me know
>>68005 Raid won it over Biboo, but this one.
>>68076 More like Homotori
>>67972 Yeah. It shouldn't have a very pronounced effect on her peak CCV because her core NA fanbase and her SEA fanbase + the new JP Pebbles don't have a timezone overlap. It does however mean she can stream at any hour of the day save for maybe EU prime and have roughly the same numbers.
>>67972 another good indicator is her sub growth when she does these events with JP members or streams during JP times
Why do people like to desperately make shit up about Biboo's numbers and fanbase
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>>68110 refer to vid related
Taso First Army?
Why do you keep plapping that router?
>>66663 Choosing not to renew a contract is usually because they disagree about things like requirements, fulfillment, responsibilities, benefits, pay, etc. Basically anything that directly affects them. "Disagreement with management" simply means that, not about the direction of the company, about idol thingy and such. Nobody really cares about that. People simply took it too far with their imagination.
>>68122 what the fuck
>>68110 you mean subhumans?
I am beginning to think that its not bots but some youtube fuckery on the back end. Like some retarded jeet coding
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Since Gura's Graduation Announcement, Nimi and Dooby have gotten 9k subs.
Link looks funnier than I remember.
>>68166 Why are specific people getting hit repeatedly while others don't.
>>68144 Taso always underrated, she is close to 1st army
>>68146 Gura's case seem to be unusual restrictions, maybe because of her loli model and the tranny management walked on eggshells to allow her to do anything.
>>68166 it's like an infection that spreads whenever someone is raided by one of these botted streams like the only reason jurard is getting targeted is because one time he was given a massive raid from iofi who was raided by a bot infected biboo
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>>68121 those were different times
>>68122 Marine's fans are switching over to other holos they are familiar with.
>>68219 meant for >>68185
>>68219 That doesn't make sense because then Iofi and Kaela should be getting hit by it, and they do not.
>>68171 Nimi is additionally about to get a significant bump from her upcoming full model debut.
>>67659 It's going to be interesting to see whether EN and JP diverge in trends because of the soon-to-graduates. Ex-JP doesn't seem like they'll be collabing much with one another, but Ex-EN might. So the latter might be able to form a box and capture an audience to share between each other like they did during their time as holos.
Kanaboo kino
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UNICORNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>68019 >68296
>>68219 It seems to affect a given stream for an integer amount of hours. It also seems to try to match the slope it sees at the moment of activation for its duration. Since the normal shape of an unbotted stream's graph is a log-looking curve, the viewfarm starting often leads to subtle but noticeable inflection points.
>meet a jp >they get her into gambling hololive is so over.
>>68271 Considering she wants to borderline Guerilla the damn thing, I don't think so.
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>>68295 >>68298 🦄🦄🦄
>>68282 Mugal will have a catastrophic meltdown of ex holos start to make a box without her.
>>68282 There's just not enough "normal" JP graduates. If Shion reappears there's a real possibility of a Sakuna collab.
>>68173 I had that same reaction. I'd never looked at his face that closely before, or my memory of it got replaced by the Soul Calibur / Smash Bros model
tracking well
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APR 2025 GOLD >1) 129,454: Miko (hololive) Live2D Debut >2) 81,267: Flare (hololive) 3D LIVE Birthday >3) 46,695: Fubuki (hololive) holo elementary school test Okayu vs Shion >4) 184,223: Sho (nijisanji) 3D Debut >5) 48,339: Calliope (hololive) 3D BIRTHDAY LIVE >6) 77,286: Miko (Hololive) reacting to clips >7) 45,212: Miko (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 >8) 50,413: Subaru (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 w/Okayu >9) 50,476: Pekora (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 >10) 78,964: Miko (Hololive) MikoRoom with Shion >11) 190,860: Rou (Nijisanji) 3D debut >12) 103,110: Itsuki Sakyo (Nijisanji) Debut >13) 110,842: Korone (Hololive) 6th Anniversary 3D Live >14) 39,299: Miko (Hololive) Pokemon emerald >15) 49,303: AZKi (Hololive) KanaAzuKoro butt battle >16) 243,897: Gura (Hololive) Graduation announcement >17) 72,646: Pekora (Hololive) HoloRust server announcement >18) 150,894: Rai (Nijisanji) 3D debut >19) 78,841: Watame (Hololive) Beyblade tournament > PER COMPANY 15x: hololive 4x: nijisanji > PER STREAMER 6x: Miko 2x: Pekora 1x: Flare, Fubuki, Sho, Calliope, Subaru, Rou, Itsuki Sakyo, Korone, Gura, Rai, Watame
biboo 30k DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>65694 looks natty to me
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>>68387 100k by holos in 2025 1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01) 2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01) 3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01) 4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01) 5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01) 6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01) 7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01) 8. 4th gen live (hololive/05-01) 9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01) 10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01) 11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01) 12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01) 13. HoloX anniversary Live (hololive/19-01) 14. Sakamata Chloe graduation live (Chloe/26-01) 15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02) 16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03) 17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03) 18. Sakura Miko Bday Live (Miko/05-03) 19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03) 20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03) 21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03) 22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03) 23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03) 24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03) 25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04) 26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04) 27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04) # of 100k streams last year: 58
These raids almost perfectly translate one-to-one, which was never heard of. There's usually a drop-off and it's not a perfect CCV transfer.
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>>68122 impressive but not quite enough to beat the rock
>>68415 only 58 this late into the year? They've really gone downhill since 2018. Now that was the year of Hololive.
>>68430 What the fuck are you even sayin nigga
>>68430 Anon... your math reps...
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Biboo's drawing the remaining ENs
>>68445 patient zero
>>68445 I don't know, maybe >>68166 is right and we're witnessing an algo change that actually benefits vtubers for once. The only thing that makes me doubt this is that it's only affecting certain vtubers and is not a blanket thing that is affecting everyone.
Assuming 10k is bots is Biboo at a solid 15-20k average for box events right now?
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Is the green one fauna or CC?
>>68489 Harder to see non vtubers as the data isn't collected, but its not just them. Stream from yesterday on playboard.
>didn't draw irys SHE HATE HER
>>68440 >>68444 How embarrassing. That'll teach me to shitpost while watching streams
>>68510 I'm betting up to 25k natty MAX, rest are bots.
and IRyS strikes again...
>>68540 >25k natty MAX From a 2k waiting room? Are you real?
>>68510 8-16k natty no raids depending on what content. Add raids, and peak can reach ~25k.
>>68548 That's pretty normal for first army.
>>68548 She got funnel from GURA
>>68519 Who?
>>68526 and after IRyS confessed her love to her i miss my soundposts
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sana always being left of these things despite graduating on good terms will never not be funny
>>68561 Gura's stream ended like 12 minutes before Biboo started, if she got a funnel, it would've been in the waiting room.
>>68574 Why would she be there if Advent and Justice haven't met her because she graduated before they debuted.
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>>68415 I love these lesbians
>>68563 Valkyrae. Got another one here. Channel TheBurntPeanut has 4-5 hours of steady growth before leveling off.
>>68595 Thank you.
>>68574 Sana graduated before advent debuted, if anything it would be dishonest to include her when they never met her
>>68595 Thanks YouTube, you fucking faggots. It would have been nice if you did this 4 years ago instead of slashing everyone's numbers in half because you didn't like anime girls being the top streamers on your site.
>>68595 I wouldn't trust her to not bot herself. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this is some new botting method that recently came out and lots of people are jumping on it.
>>68574 I hate "SANA IS FOREVER" fags as much as "goseki is always 5" retards
>>68428 JP watchers behave differently, nigger.
biboo's raid is bleeding like a typical raid does so probably natty
>25K rock natty I didn't now pebbles were extremely delusional now, lmao
>the retards who insist on lying about Biboo's numbers and pretend it's natural have finally found the thread It was a peaceful 4 days.
>now >(1)
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>(1)
>(1) These people are something else. We got IDs, and they are still trying without no shame.
Biboo's going to molest inner and mori...
>>68629 so holo management is botting the girls?
>>68595 Valkyrae wasn't botted. That was the period she thought she was botted while playing Repo or whatever. Those are perfectly reasonable buffs on a buff game.
>>68655 Also, I just noticed. Both (1) were posted at the same time, they unironically coordinate this shit on a discord lol.
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Over 500k. 5 hours
>>68682 Her Twitch numbers.
Unironically looks natty to me or it was an extremely short run that ended at 13:00. Of today's streams only Kiara and Mori look sus.
JPcucks status?
>>68694 >>68655 You know you're not fooling anyone right? There was pretty much no pebble posting for like 3 days, people could discuss the bots in peace, and now you faggots are coming in here with your bullshit screaming natty like a bunch of morons.
>>68633 No they don't.
>>68548 anon I've seen Pekora have an 800-900 waiting room before she started a stream which later became over 30k ccv. Its not unusual for a First Army, and Biboo is basically an EN First Army now.
>>68717 flip time btw
>>68726 Keep crying about Biboo's natty numbers discordnig
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>There was pretty much no pebble posting for like 3 days
>>68737 Pekora is not an EN.
>>68682 The graph I linked she switched from REPO to Valorant as the incline started. Most of these cases they are multistreaming so its hard to compare directly, but I am seeing a ton of odd graph patterns amongst various youtube streams.
>>68676 Dunno, could be a fan, could be a malicious actor, but I don't think it's the magical algorithm at work
>>68749 Biboo has JP viewers just like Pekora does.
>>68717 JP whores just can't compete with EN anymore
>>68749 You get my point nigger, stop deflecting.
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KRONIII
>>68682 >>68701 >>68751 Never mind. I didn't see the graph properly and it was a stream yesterday. My bad.
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>>68743 no fruity pebbles posting this is a fruit loops thread only
>>68641 Exactly.
kanatan is so fucking G4Y for biboo
>>68763 It's not deflecting. We've had 4 fucking years of EN having higher waiting rooms and peaking lower before and after the """"uncull""". Now suddenly a singular person can suddenly reach 10x their waiting room in EN?
The best thing about IDs is that now we know corpocuck poster and jpcuck poster are the same person lmao
Am I supposed to be intimidated by this? You know I'm still right. Stop deflecting.
>>68743 Stop noticing things
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>>68785 Why do you love sucking off nip corpos so much?
What's the channel that tracks weekly Holo songs and covers? I want to use it as a library to check out some songs that i didn't pay attention.
>>68805 Corpos aren't bad by default
>>68820 Filter me if you are not happy with what I post, son
>>68548 Its normal. JP girls get it even some first armies do.
>>68830 You know Yagoo won't fuck you even if you keep simping for him don't you. The only proven good agencies in the business are non-nip or those willing to let the US side run the show the same way Playstation did.
>>68785 You mean you didn't already know that?
>>68844 Only a tranny would say US agencies are the best because they pander to the mentally ill.
>>68844 >You know Yagoo won't fuck you you dont know that flip bro
>>68844 Can't think of a single good US company, maybe steam and thats it.
>>68897 wait, I just got a new ID wth?
how has the shitposting been with these IDs, any better?
>>68929 still bad but at least the worst schizos like Ennacuck are yet to make this place their new home
>>68929 I think it's way better
Reminder all of this will be forgotten the moment EN5 gets announced.
>>68929 Cuckposter is kill
>>68963 cope... if Nimi already disturbed so much non stop, imagine what Gura spamming streams will do.
>>68880 US groups are better because they're less corporate, less bureaucratic, more supportive, and more aware of how to deal with both talents and fans. You don't get perms bullshit or having covers delayed for fucking years.
>>68929 im sad im not going to be able to do the thing where i pretend to be a nijinigger with my favourite "noooooo damn you holokeks" thing when holos beat niji on the tally
>>68977 Nimiseethe is way tamer with IDs on.
>>68979 Yeah more supportive to trannies and niggers.
>>68979 >US groups like which groups?
>>68979 Is that why VShojo had to kowtow and do basically what Cover does but worse and more AIDS ridden? Seesh, God bless America.
>egg hunt in the middle of enemy territory
>>68999 Name one instance of a VShojo talent having her covers delayed like Gura or getting cucked out of game permissions excluding the Hogwarts Legacy bullshit
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>>69025 >defending Vwhores for real
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Pretty close She could have won if she didn't get shot at
>excluding the Hogwarts Legacy bullshit It's really a tranny...
never got why perms seem to be such an issue when literally every single vtuber above 3view plays the same shit anyway it's like it doesn't even matter if they're indie or not
>>69043 Nobody care if some nobody rob a store If a president walk around his home naked it would make national news
>>69025 Here is a simpler one, name something VShojo has done that Cover didn't do first and better. All that chat about talent freedom and being anti idol culture only to grovel back into YouTube and do a miserable 4view 3D concert. Because that's what Hololive does, that's what people see.
>>68979 Every US based content creation group, be it OTK, OTV or ludwigs brand of organizing events have died. Ironically enough, hololive is the only one that has founf the middle grounf of everything thse people did in the west.
>>69058 Vshojo lost a large portion of their "talents" first
>>69058 not him but vshojo has youtube reactslop, sleep streams, and date streams with fleshie men! There's probably an audience that wants that stuff anyway, it's fine for it to exist so long as alternatives like Holo also exist
>>69079 Hahahahahaha, touche
>>69089 Pikamee really went downhill after being allowed to do reactslop
>>69089 Funnily enough, VShojo lost the "likes getting cucked" audience to Niji, anoooooother Japanese company
>>69058 Ironlung hasn't died yet
What is the upside/downside to how niji vs holo word their grad announcements? Reading Fulgur's it's clear niji doesn't have an analogue for 方向性の違い or disagreement with management or w/e
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KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>69114 Niji is jaded at this point >yeah this obese hamplanet is leaving, arigatou gozai masu
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>>66980 The singularity.
Polka not streaming?
>>68696 would a premiere be better or worse for this?
>>69058 >Cover Missing the fucking point, holos did all that, Cover had nothing to do with it except stand in the way.
>giving food and drink to kanataso even tho you're literally starving vivuu...
>>69147 >Couldn't answer the question Sounds like American companies cannot do anything of value.
>>69147 not all the 企画 are self-produced dude, even as a shitposter you ought to know that. Like, it's plainly obvious something like expo or whatever aren't executable or even plannable by individual talents.
>>69160 American groups don't stand in the way of their talents doing something aka the holos would be even better off doing their own thing as indies/under non-nip agencies. Cover contributes jack and shit besides leeching off the girls to fund their failed MMO and the homos.
Biboo gave Kanata her family jewel
why is a flip sucking off american corpos?
>>69146 Less verification Can't raid the vid I would say the most organic way is just drop it like this but not everybody is Gura with grad buff.
>>69172 Expos or whatever are just vanity projects for management and give zero benefit to the talents, look at how many of themselves work almost to death preparing for it and having to fly to Japan and deal with Japanese retardation and shitty Japanese food for weeks.
>>69183 Bro? That's literally their culture
>>69174 Sounds like they don't do anything AT ALL, how useless of them~
>>69174 Why didnt they let Nazuna stream Hogwarts Legacy? She is a Jap literally nobody woudve given a shit. Or was it that some tranny in management was mad at the game so the order came from there?
>>69146 Don't think anyone else has done it this way off such a big sream. So can't really say, but the no premiere definitely doesn't seem to have hurt it. Seemed like it might have reached outside the normal audience faster this way though. Reflect was ~10 hours to 1 mil I think? So this is on pace currently
>>69192 >wanting corpos to do anything And that's why you're a corpocuck.
>safe zone >is actually dangerous
>>69212 Then why are you jerking off American companies? Sounds like the 2view Fansly whore that you're watching is doing more than fine without the evil capitalism
>>69190 >Expos or whatever are just vanity projects for management Talents are very exited about signing things on the floor. >look at how many of themselves work almost to death preparing for it How many >having to fly to Japan and deal with Japanese retardation and shitty Japanese food for weeks. OMG flying to another country for free to do the work you signed up for, The horrors. And Jap food is better then the PagPag you eat daily.
>>69212 So true vshitshow dosent do anything and just mooches money from their talents, they should all graduate,
>>69174 What even is the precedent for thinking any of that is true? Previous examples have shown the opposite to be generally the case. Kson, while I still love her, performs worse statistically compared to when she was Coco, and she hasn't really done shit that was altogether unique. Dooby and Rica also have the same weaknesses they did back then and aren't really doing anything at all different, if anything they're performing a bit worse because of no box appeal. Hell, even Aqua has lower ccv compared to her as a Holo and is part of way fewer projects and streams way less than she used to, which was already on the lower end in Holo. The one that bucks the trend is Fauna but only because she is performing about the same, in that she never really did anything but stream games and karaoke, and is doing that with about the same ccv Like, what even is the reasoning here, especially when the talents themselves aren't divulging anything substantial? Ostensibly alot of them even enjoy being in Hololive and reaping the benefits of membership
Why were we invaded by Vshojofags here?
>>69190 Headcanon Watch streams and realize how happy a lot of the talents are with performing in front of a large audience
>>69257 Just ennacuck and bored anons replying to him, the usual.
>>69231 >Talents are very exited about signing things on the floor. They are "encouraged" to say how excited they are by nip handlers >How many Good job exposing you don't follow holoEN at all and don't even know how many of them are always out of commission shortly after expos >And Jap food is better then the PagPag you eat daily. They don't even have decent vegan alternatives retarded nipcocksucker
>>69257 Actual vshojofags don't give a shit. Holoantis just try and use every trick in the book in their moralfaggotry and tribalism
>>69247 It was nice of you to respond, but you know there's no reasoning behind that claim. Just seethe.
Biboo is having her own PekoVivi moment, and this thread is talking about some retard gay shit.
>>69281 Stream watchers is on the towa
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600k - 6 hours Might actually beat Reflect
>>69247 >Kiara wasn't allowed to do anything with holotori >Gura had multiple projects pushed back or cancelled >Fauna also had multiple projects pushed back or cancelled >Mumei had multiple songs pushed back Tell me how I know you don't watch streams without saying you don't watch streams.
>>69289 Are you going to argue that Mumei's reasons isn't health related?
>>69247 We just can't see the situation from the individual talent's PoV since we lack information. Whatever the reason they're leaving I don't think it has to do with the company being JP, if anything Cover seems to be one of the better ones from the absolute gutter bunch that the JP entertainment industry is. I'd rather blame the IPO. There's literally no example of a public company (in the field of entertainment, for the sake of comparing apples to apples) that isn't plagued by all kinds of retarded issues stemming from shareholder pressure.
is this currently the best place to numberfag?
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>>69295 If it was ONLY health-related she wouldn't have added "misalignments with company direction".
>>69289 stream timestamps?
>>69302 Sadly, yes
>>69301 >that isn't plagued by all kinds of retarded issues stemming from shareholder pressure. Which shareholders domain is excluding this pressure retardchama? They have had shareholders since forever.
>>69322 Oh so you are that retarded
>>69322 isn't that just a template statement designed to be as vague as possible so as not to delve into specifics? basically every reason to voluntarily leave a job under the sun that isn't criminal in nature falls under that statement by design
>>69333 but those shareholders weren't ブラックロック dun dun dun
>>69326 Kiara's was a member stream but she did vent about how Holotori dance was a popular song so she hoped they got more and when she saw they weren't she'd pester management about it. They'd go "yeah yeah we're coming up with something" and then, even with her asking them about it for a year, they did fucking nothing and now Mumei is gone.
I haven't seen Advent and Justice complaining. That basically shows how different the expectations/contracts were before and after. The last two gens knew exactly what they were getting into, the ones before had to either adapt or go their way.
>>69288 Reflect took 10 and a half hours to reach 1m. If Ash Again beats it, it would be by the thinnest of margins.
What sort of "misalignments" would cause them to choose full-on graduation rather than going the affiliate route?
kronii is getting tired of the perms bs
>>69344 If it was just health problems she would have just said only health problems, note how even the blacker company Anycolor doesn't need to add this disclaimer. Not getting into specifics means you have something to hide.
>>69368 Probably additional assignments that isn't the "they are just going to use her corpse as marketing" line that was spouted when it was introduced.
>>69368 ame only chose affiliate because of the ameway and chloe because holox has a goal of doing a concert together
>>69381 Like what? What extra work has Dooby done? Record something to be played over the intercom at Holo Expo?
>>69381 I mean it doesn't help much when the only thing extra we've seen was Ame pre-recorded dialogue at Holofes. And only Ame no Chloe
>>69394 >>69399 I dunno but apparently it's not a guaranteed choice among those who graduate like it was speculated to be
>>69368 Not being the mascot for an entire branch seems to be a good indicator.
>>69403 Did Fauna, Mumei, or Gura say they didn't have the option? If so, that's very weird
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Finally I'm free from all bullshits and can watch streams in peace.
>>69419 None of them did. But none of them also chose it. I doubt they didn't offer it to Gura though so the whole "maybe the other girls weren't offered it" angle is now moot. They just chose full on graduation. And it's pretty much only Ame and Chloe who chose affiliation and quite frankly I'm not even sure if Chloe fully knows what it entails either.
>>69368 something about affiliation must not be worth it and ame probably convinced the other girls not to take that option
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Also, glad that she get to spend time with biboo
>>69379 my issue with your reasoning is why you jump to black company just from talents leaving due to disagreement with direction I've literally left a company I've previously worked for due to something i could also easily place under "disagreements with direction" but I wouldn't really call that company "black" in the jp sense of the word, nor would my, or any other person's individual difference in direction prove or substantiate a given company being any blacker than any other one. Like, can't you just skip the foreplay and just anti cover outright? You don't really need to do this song and dance about the talents and concernfagging over them in order to justify anti-ing a company. Especially not here or on 4chan where you can say it without actual repercussion. If it's a ligger tribalist angle you're going for, why the hell aren't you railing about how black Amazon and Google are considering all vtubers ever are getting fucked over by them way worse with their platform duopoly
kronii tried to make an rpg maker game
Why did management treat Gura like shit especially? other mems also had problems but not like how Gura described it
>>69475 Shut up.
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>>69510 >legs didn't reach the ground Bib's a midget even in game
>>69475 Nip management upset and jealous that a non-nip was the biggest and most popular vtuber of all time, it was pretty obvious
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WAMY
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They found lamy kek
>>69455 >you don't really need to care about the talents to anti Cover Dumbshit, you should be anti-ing Cover BECAUSE you care about the talents, name one other agency with this sort of graduation rush that was actually clean with everyone happy behind the scenes.
Most of EN can deal with Japan. A good number can't. And eventually it'll claim victims again.
wrap it up
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