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ABDL And Transphobia muslim-kun 10/28/2021 (Thu) 14:18:09 No. 5885
Is the reddit*r here true? Is there any transphobia in the ABDL community? If so, kinda based
A lot of ABDLs have a dislike for trannies in the community for a couple main reasons I'm aware of. Part of it is annoyance with the sissy/feminization/humiliation being a very obvious fetish despite them in general claiming that being transgender is not a fetish. The other thing is the humiliation sissy/feminizations thing is the main focus rather than the ABDL part and annoyance that trannies have to drag it in when most ABDLs don't care for it in the first place. Also a lot of this stuff is not tagged like it should be which is related to the problem below. The latter problem is insisting on putting images of themselves in galleries that are not meant for them or intentionally tagging their stuff wrong. People get annoyed with this very quickly. No one wants to be browsing stuff of their preferred sex and suddenly have some man faced and bodied tranny mixed in with it. All of this results in them claiming transphobia if you don't like it or point out that humiliating feminization as a fetish is both sexist and contradicts a lot of the rhetoric on being transgender not being fetish in itself. TLDR; A lot of people don't like trannies in ABDL because they try to force people into their own fetishes and exhibitionism while claiming "transphobia" if people don't like it and participate.
>>5888 This. Additionally, I'd add that since ABDL is a very stigmatized fetish, people are used to being bullied for it, and thus have a higher resistance to bullying. ABDL communities (like other stigmatized communities like e.g. furry ones) are less likely to kneel to the bullying and totalitarian demands of trans ideologs than most, and cries of transphobia is to be expected.
>>5888 >The latter problem is insisting on putting images of themselves in galleries that are not meant for them or intentionally tagging their stuff wrong. People get annoyed with this very quickly. No one wants to be browsing stuff of their preferred sex and suddenly have some man faced and bodied tranny mixed in with it. To be honest this is the biggest thing and not just /abdl/ related. The ugly truth is that the majority of trans are just attention whores upset they are not getting attention they crave.
>>5888 I think it's more the latter case myself. I think ABDLs in general are pretty good about supporting each other's kinks even if it's not their own thing, at least in my experience. I'm not into sissy stuff at all, but I'll tolerate it for people I like, and I have friends who will similarly tolerate things they're not personally fans of. The key is just the consent, I feel. A person's sense of entitlement to have people see them how they want to be seen doesn't overrule somebody's right to see the content they want in a space dedicated to that content, and the implication that it does (rightfully) pisses people off.
Another issue is that the whole gender and pronoun community on places like twitter, tumblr, and reddit have gained a reputation for various kinds of drama and attention seeking behavior and people don't want this kind of thing dragged into communities that don't care about and just want somewhere to discuss and share their fetishes and porn. It's not just the ABDL community as >>5889 noted. A lot of porn and fetish communities are less willing to tolerate this kind of behavior.
>>5891 The consent issue is a big thing that people don't like about some of the transgender community. We literally have some of them saying you're a bigot if you aren't interested in sex with them or don't find them attractive.
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>>5888 >>5889 Good summaries, nice to know I caught a career-ending fetish with a based community
>>5885 It seems like all of the responses on the first post are all saying that the sub in question did nothing wrong, as it's considered a porn channel, and they cater to specific likes.
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>>5891 Yeah I'm into sissy stuff personally, but I at least realize that I'm not a woman and never will be one, and I'd certainly never tag any photos of myself (which I don't take, but still) in categories meant for actual biological females. It might sound weird since the sissy fetish is so trans-adjacent in many ways, but I hate trannies for a lot of the same reasons that everyone else does. They're hypersensitive, mentally ill and want everyone to bow to their whims. They should get pushback.
Never really noticed this, seems to be more of a thing with the live porn side of things. I'm also guessing that there's an inherently unreported segment of that population that does not bring attention to themselves and thus appear like other posters. It becomes less of an issue when dealing with drawn media or just straight up internet discussion where gender is irrelevant. I do wonder about how transgender males in ABDL are perceived, come to think of it.
I'm going to be blunt. It's not that we/I hate the Trannies or Furry Fags as a whole: it's just they throw their woke political ideology into the faces of us NORMAL ABDLs. The woke have taken over the ABDL community. It's made it worse by claiming ABDL is a LBGTQ+ - Whatever they're calling themselves these days - home base. Which is not true. I'm glad people are fighting back against these degenerate loonies. They can freely call us "Transphobic", "Racists" and "Homophobic" - but words are words. And opinions are opinions. We have the right to say and think how and what we think and believe in. Of course they hate that because everyone in the world, according to their world view, should be "Equal". Politics is everywhere in the sex world. Even in BDSM. It's tragic. One is scared of chatting up women/men because if the talks end up political, drama automatically spreads. I'm thinking about buying a silicone doll with a nice peachy ass, massive tits and a tight pussy. At least I can do what I want with her and she won't answer me back.
>>5935 In your case, I'd recommend getting that silicone doll, doing future generations a favor by selecting out of the genepool. You're not only contaminated by trans ideology, you've thought about it, and managed to come up with your own bizarre mirror-ideology using the exact same building blocks. If you think furry is woke, you're fucking retarded and it's a sign you've "bought in", but even worse is your radical leftist construction of "the ABDL community" - In reality there is no ABDL community. There never was, and unless we get a One World Diaper Government, there never will be, this notion of "we" versus "them" is pants on head retarded, because there are hundreds, maybe thousands ABDL communities. Several overlapping on Twitter, on Reddit there's at least a couple ABDL communities, here on this site you have one (basically dead) community, on FA and DA you find several communities also, and so on. Your blatant attempt at signalling on behalf of we/I has not gone unnoticed, either.
>>5939 >Nooooo you can't be against them you're just as bad as them!!!!!!! Not him but your attempt to instantly characterize him as somehow just as bad comes as insanely pathetic. Like >"exact same building blocks" What the fuck do you mean by this? I can only assume you're some LGBTtard who's trying to define your opposition out of existence. It's so predictable. >>5935 They haven't taken over the community, at least not entirely. Don't lose hope nigga.
>>5941 >What the fuck do you mean by this? The Marxist and/or Stalinist tradition of linguistic powergrabs. The attempt to "claim" words like community and redefine them, is the most obvious. It's the same place you get ideas like Capitalism = Fascism from (which is actually what most of the Stalinist-Maoist organizations under the AntiFa banner believes, certainly the older European organizations). But I digress. A community is by definition local, it needs to have actual, y'know, unity. Historically it'd be your village or such but extending it to online communities makes sense. The "problem" for people using these "building blocks" is that that's a hard limitation, it's hard to make a move for power when your reach only extends to, like, a couple dudes on a porn imageboard whose interests you can claim to represent. So you shift the definition, and redefine community to mean everyone on planet Earth that ticks a few boxes, while simultaneously pretending you have that unity. That way you get to speak on behalf of "The LGBT+ Community" or in this case "the ABDL community". This goes hand in hand with the inclusive language, which admittedly is pretty common for politicians overall, and not explicitly a Marxist/Stalinist phenomena. >I'm going to be blunt. Good start. How he should have framed everything. >It's not that we/I hate Wait... Who is this "we"? Oh right, "we" as in "the entire global ABDL community you speak on behalf of." >They can freely call us "Transphobic" >We have the right to say and think how and what we think and believe in. And this is the rallying cry. They attack Us, and We have the right. Were this a public speech with a bit more tact, this is where the masses would cheer. >One is scared of chatting up women/men Normal people don't write like this. Normal people would say "I'm scared of chatting up women/men", because that's who normal people speak for, normal people don't speak on behalf of "the global community". >I'm thinking about buying a silicone doll And note how he switches back. The first sentence and last paragraph, to help ease you in and out. There are a couple other red flags, like how "one" (he) is so deeply entrenched in ideology he is incapable of even talking about politics without automatically spreading drama, but I hope you get the gist of it.
>>5951 Uh, okay. I see what you mean, but why is that a bad thing? Politics is all about friend and enemy. Us vs. them comes naturally. Every successful ideology ever uses it. If you don't, you lay down and die. It's milquetoast and ineffectual. I got to admit I hate being lumped in with people, but when push comes to shove, you know who I'm batting with.
90% of "trans" people these days are toadies glomming onto an identity that gives them a tribe and social perks, including the license to treat other people badly and control them, as seen in OPs pics. I guess I feel bad for those experiencing genuine dysphoria, and ABDLs will obviously live-and-let-live with kinks. But that's irrelevant. Don't let trannies shame your community into accepting them, or they'll destroy you. "Tolerance" is only the thin end of the wedge.
>>5956 Genuine dysphoria is mostly just a product of low self-esteem anyways. Changing one's identity never fixes it. Only improvement as a person can fix it, and unfortunately transgender rhetoric can be an obstacle to that. Often they abandon any hope or concrete goals in self-improvement to instead become fixated on the idea that one day they'll finally be viewed as the opposite sex.
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Since this is an unsalvageable trainwreck of a shitposting thread, I might as well derail it further and piss everyone off by pointing out that a lot of what you've been told about Tiananmen Square is completely false. The leader of the protest was funded by the CIA and is on video saying that their goal was to cause bloodshed. The police were largely unarmed until near the end, and there are plenty of photos of police officers who were burned to death by the "peaceful" protestors. The Chinese government didn't even execute the protest leaders who they arrested, much less engage in wholesale slaughter like the mainstream media would have you believe. Now you can go back to ranting about trans people or whatever.
>>5962 >The leader of the protest was funded by the CIA and is on video saying that their goal was to cause bloodshed >CIA disrupting commies based >The police were largely unarmed until near the end, and there are plenty of photos of police officers who were burned to death by the "peaceful" protestors. >Burning commies to death based
>>5963 And while we're at it I might as well remind you that the US handed out textbooks to Afghani kids teaching them that jihad was a good thing and encouraging them to become terrorists and child soldiers. God I love FREEDOM. http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/7/afghan-fighters-americantextbooks.html
>>5969 Are you just finding this out or something? Yes the US government conspires against its own citizens and shit. We know. And about your tiananmen square thing, big whoop, I don't care about chicoms. You think this is shocking information to us or something?
>>5969 > the US handed out textbooks to Afghani kids teaching them that jihad was a good thing and encouraging them to become terrorists and child soldiers Double based, cope harder tranny
>>5969 mega based, thanks for leading to taliban-enforced diapering of all women
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>>5885 It's not transphobia, is people realizing that the most privileged group in existence (white men posing as women) are infiltrating EVERY female community and demanding more rights than everyone else. Pic very related
>>5952 Your vision of politics is a bit dystopian, that's a facet of collectivist ideologies, not politics as a whole (from populism "us normies vs the elites" to fascism "us patriots vs the eternal war" to communism "us the proletariat vs. the bourgeoisie"), mostly failed ideologies. But for this discussion, your framing will serve, it's across such lines this "culture war" are fought for sure Getting to your actual point: >why is that a bad thing? You are asking why turning the Private into the Political is a bad thing, and I mean... I suppose it isn't immediately obvious why it's a bad thing, so let's do a thought experiment: On one side, you have trans ideologs and their allies. They are "anti-fans" driven not by a genuine interest (in this case, in ABDL) as we see in the OP, their interest is the political first and ABDL is a vehicle. On the other side, you have genuine fans. Since "the ABDL community" does not exist, genuine fans are better framed as a demographic. Statistically they're going to skew very, VERY slightly right wing (correlation is around 0.04 I believe), but generally come from all walks of life. If they are representative of the population as a whole, most are apolitical, some have a vague political interest lower than their interest in ABDL and a few firebrands are genuinely politically engaged. So if you try to force this demographic into a united front, what will happen is that most people will leave, some will join the enemy, and a tiny number of people remain who are instantly crushed as they are opposed by a well organized machine recruiting from outside the actual interest. This is why comic books died, but things like furry and videogames survived. What I think you should do instead, and what has a track record of working, is say no, the private is not political, then heckle and gatekeep, gatekeep, gatekeep. Like reddit is apparently doing in the OP.
>>5991 >things like furry and videogames survived. What you're saying rests on the idea that this got results that are better, which I'm really just not seeing. I don't like the state of furries or video games. That isn't the thing I want to repeat. >this is why comic books died Is it really? Because I could have sworn it was other forms of media overtaking it, unless by died you mean become pozzed. I do see that it's pozzed but so are furries and an increasing number of video games. I also think that turning things political is a one-way street. You can't unpoliticize something when just neutrality is viewed as a statement, something that is happening with video games. They are absolutely not successful with that, gamers with a genuine interest in games demand politics be removed from games but that's not happening. I might add that anyone can see that by "politics" they mean politics they disagree with. The problem isn't politicization anyways, it's what politics and how. Leftist politics are wrong, and obnoxiously so. Right-wing politics are right and you don't even have to insist upon them being so because they just are, right-wing ideas literally are a reflection of nature. Both in our messaging and our opposition to them, we don't have to insist upon ourselves so hard. It doesn't have to be that divisive. So in a way I think you're partially right on not making it a unified front, because we don't have to.
>>5995 Died as in becoming pozzed, yes. Video game journalism is a joke and everyone knows it, even the award shows are crumbling. It feels like every month we get an Activision Blizzard story about some company going woke, raping their staff and destroying their games, and actual "Gamers" are having none of it. Look at the massive exodus from World of Warcraft to Final Fantasy XIV. Or how every time some developer like Factorio tells Cancel Culture to fuck off, sales skyrocket. I can safely say I've not played a Pozzed game in years, and I have a larger catalogue of excellent games to pick from than ever before. They're just not Battlefield or Overwatch. Same with furry, sometimes you get an article by some "Ally" trying to push a trans-fur narrative, or a failing convention that only allows access if you're Pozzed, but by and large, the rank and file, the artists especially, rarely fall into that category, because becoming a good artist requires dedication, effort and actual care, it can't be a side-gig to further your political agenda. (American) Comic books tried to organize and self-regulate, which resulted in a split. A loose organization that gives an inch, then a mile to leftism, and an opposition that isn't getting published, isn't getting served, and the few remaining fans left demoralized and abandoning comics. Their tactic is divide and conquer. Like straight out of the KGB manual. Infest, politicize, demoralize. Infestation is simple, just place your agents. Agents like in the OP. Knowingly or not (probably unknowingly, they've been indoctrinated, not educated) they are serving an agenda. This can't be prevented in a free society as you can't exactly do a background check before allowing people to communicate. To politicize is next. By driving a wedge they separate (in the current incarnation) Left from Right. Left ABDL has no choice but to join them, Right ABDL are outnumbered and outmaneuvered as they face not only ABDL fans but also anti-fans and Allies, and are thus left demoralized. You cannot allow that wedge in, that politicization. Even if you are a moderate left winger and agree that antivaxxers should be starved to death but perhaps not put in death camps, if you value your hobby, fetish, or interest higher than your political aspirations, it will still serve you to gatekeep and keep politics out - if not, in an absolute best case scenario, half the content you like to consume, is gone. Politicizing is serving their goals.
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>>5885 Already fucked for liking to wear diapers, something I think I can trace back to some childhood trauma. I don't need to be associated with the complete headcases in the trans "community". I like pussy, have a stable life and can be pretty normal, oh yeah, and I have a dick and I don't want to cut it off. Trannies seethe and dilate.
>>6003 Beats me how I somehow got this pulled to it, considering my family life was and is pretty good. Im still not sure what I did to who to deserve this fetish
>>6005 I thought diaper jihads were part of the religion of peace?
>>6009 What would your response be if I did claim that double padding all women under abayas was required in this religion?
>>6013 How do we convert?
I think that's mainly because r/girlsindiaper prohibit trans women, which is normal & it wouldn't be hard to do a fucking r/transgirlsindiaper on some shit
>>5962 Nearly everything we hear about China is CIA propaganda, yes.
>>6015 we'd probably see the bulges in half of these "women"s diapers on the front side, not the back
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>>6030 Depends how well they tuck Captain Winky!
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>>6003 >I like pussy ?
>>6013 But is Atman Brahman in it?
>>6013 >double padding all women Cringe, w*men don't deserve diapers.
anti-trans thing is a psyop people never gave a shit up until a couple years ago (2016-18). before that, everyone was mostly able to separate the 'SJWs' from your normal trap/trans chick/etc. then suddenly there's this "grassroots" push against it based around carefully curated pictures of uggos (many of which were fake/shopped/made with AI), them supposedly guilting women into sleeping with them, alleged "grooming", etc. ie. shit chans never gave a fuck about before it's an obvious psyop. no clue who's behind it, maybe china, maybe some glowies worried about ppl not breeding, but there you have it
>>6073 You Will Never Be A Real Diaper Girl
>>6077 Damn right he won't, and neither will you be, Islamocuck
>>6073 Show me these normal trap/trans chicks and you might have a point. The psyop, actual psyop, has been so effective at indoctrinating, these "normal" people are now vanishingly few or very, very quiet.
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>>6073 The Jews started trying to indoctrinate children and alienated males with trans propaganda in that time-frame, therefore people began to care. Newsflash - no one ever liked disgusting trannies as anything more than a fetish object, and they certainly don't want them creeping into women's bathrooms, reading to children in the library and having doctors pump their children full of sex hormone cocktails. I have never seen an attractive tranny in my life. They are all textbook mentally-ill perverts with five-o'-clock shadow who look nothing like a woman who insist and bully you into calling them female names. They need pic related.
as a porn board/reddit/group/forum, people go there because they want to jerk off to what they like. trannies and fags always complain about having safe spaces. can i have a space for my porn? i want to see girls in diapers not "girls" in diapers. based reddit mods for denying the trannies.
when it comes to diaper images on reddit, people literally just want to fap they want to see attractive feminine people who look like women. I bet if a hot trans woman who passes easily posts her diaper pics on there no one would even notice nor say anything. making a big deal out of it just because you don't look feminine enough for most of the people who go on the reddit to masturbate is essentially against the point of the whole reddit.
Repressive tolerance sure is a mind fuck. No one has anyone's interest at stake but their own when it comes down to it.
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I am the biggest diapered homophobe in the world!
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diaper tranny here, I guess. I generally try to keep this to myself, and only bring it up when someone make this kind of threads or when the subject is mentioned, and only if I feel like it because most of the time is exhausting to discuss with someone who tells you "haha ywnbaw dilate cope tranny xd", and also because I'm not murrikan and therefore I'm blessed by not being submerged in a constant cultural war that I can empathize must be exhausting for everyone involved, so you're in my prayers fellow murrikan degenerates. The sissy or forced feminization fetish is mostly related to the fantasy of giving up control of your transition to someone else, because transitioning is really emotionally taxing and thinking about someone "forcing you" to go through it and just being "trapped" in that terrible terrible situation becomes a fantasy for a lot of trannies, at least I've seen a lot of other trannies saying that while I think "yeah, this make a lot of sense". I do agree it should be tagged on its own category, but if there's diapers in it it should also have the diaper tag, though I don't really understand this problem anyways because idk you, but I tumble across a lot of really disgusting shit like the pedo shit I don't like while searching diaper porn and I just accept it as a fact of having this fetish, it's always been like that and acting like a bunch of babies about it seems like cherry picking. In regards to reddit cringe, what can I say? Go back?. I mostly have porn on my twitter, barely use instagram, and only touch cringeddit with a 10 meters (or about 32ft) pole and only for hobbies related stuff. Like nigga, if you get this triggered by social media cringe and that sort of stuff just get away, you're literally searching reasons to confirm your biases. Like block social media, idk.
I love gender bender stuff, porn or not porn. It's honestly one of my top fetishes, but I hate tranny drama, attention whoring, hypocrisy, and politics. >>5892 I honestly think this is probably the biggest issue. A lot of communities just don't want to deal with the drama and attention whoring trannies. There's also the issue of some of them using it as an excuse or bludgeon against criticism. Most people also don't like pretending the crossdresser with a man jaw, five o'clock shadow, and/or deep voice is a girl because they'll get labeled an -ist or -phobe if they don't. It's not just trannies that do that either I've noticed. Some other people use "I have x disability or mental illness" as an excuse for being an asshole, drama queen, or attention whore. It's similar to the issue people have with furries. It's acting like they're accepting, intellectuals while insulting anyone who doesn't agree with them and acting dismissive when the very obvious creeps and perverts are pointed out. The thing that makes trannies worse than furries though is all the mainstream political bullshit tied into it. A lot of groups specifically avoid talking about politics because of the problems it can cause in the community. At least with furries people aren't protesting in the streets, issuing a huge amount of death threats, trying to cancel people and fiction, thinking trannies should be able to unfairly compete in sports with women (for that matter a lot of transgender politics can easily come off as an insult to women and feminism), being dismissive or insulting of people who regret transitioning, or supporting stuff like giving kids cancer drugs as puberty blockers that turn bones to powder and stunt growth as a side effect and encouraging stuff that will permanently alter the body and cause sterility. There is a lot of reason for people to be wary of trannies and not wanting to deal with them. Even some gays, lesbians, and bisexuals don't like them which is part of why "Drop the T" is a thing. Anyway... this really isn't relevant to the board when you get down to it and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets deleted at at some point if it escalates at all. Probably better off to sage this thread and leave it alone.
>>8621 >I tumble across a lot of really disgusting shit like the pedo shit <tranny has shit taste Who woulda guessed?
>>8624 /Thread You hit every point on the head
>>6003 >>6005 you don't need trauma to have fetishes. my fetishes came from normal events like watching cartoons etc
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>>8624 Here's another version of the bio trans girls comic that also mention diapers. And a small bonus.
>>8637 The only issue i have with that comic is not enough hair dye
It's as sample as what people prefer to see when they fap, it's not transphobic. if you are trans and you pass and are pretty you would probably have no trouble and not a lot of people would notice, as far as I know obese and not appealing cis girls would get more shit. it's about being pretty and looking appealing to post an image of yourself and ppl to be acceptant and like that image.
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>>8644 You mean like the fat hairy fucks who dress up like sissys and insist fags fap to them? They are arguably the biggest source of cringe and cancer in this fetish. I doubt most people would object to trans if they were /cute/ but if they are ugly fucks being degenerate then all they are succeeding is making people want to vomit.

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>>8644 >>8681 Ultimately it's the difference between HSTS and AGP trannies. HSTS trannies are very feminine and often pass, and aren't clearly fetishists. AGP trannies is what 99% of trannies in the West are today, i.e. they have a fetish and are aroused by dressing in women's clothing and forcing others to acknowledge them as 'real women'. AGPs are masculine, often porn-addicted, narcissistic and exhibited little to no signs of femininity before being brainwashed by other AGPs or mindbroken by sissy porn. I regularly fap to feminine and passing transwomen, especially Asian ones. I have no problem with them in the slightest and do not mind acknowledging them to be essentially women, but when it comes to AGPs, they are cancer.
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>>8694 >Blanchard
Trannies gatekeep a lot of interactions online with abdls since they bring a massive amount of trauma into their “kink.” It’s rough wanting to baby someone when the entire community is catering to people in their late 20s that simply cannot function in society. I like adult babies not actual babies for fucks sake.
>>8711 >anime Proving Blanchard right again
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>>8712 Makes you think that trannys do a better job at terrorising folk than Tarrant-tan ever could.
>>8736 who the fuck is tarrant-tan? and why are there ara's at my door?
>>6003 Thanks, I love the bathroom door guy meme and I recognize the irony of such a thing on an isolated weeaboo-style diaper-loving image forum. Personally I'd love it if the trannies wouldn't dilate. It would help their gaping wound heal up faster. Imagine keeping a wound open AND wearing diapers.. that shit isn't healthy.
>>6073 >>anti-trans thing is a psyop >> The revulsion that people feel in the presence of the severely mentally ill and self-mutilating is the result of a CIA operation. No. Trannies became more brazen and grew in numbers. Before ~2015 it was entirely possible to ignore them if one didn't live in a metropolitan area.
Yes - I believe that gender does not exist & that sex is assigned at birth, any deviation is a mental illness.
>>8853 The trannys really are the ones to bring out their own perverse version of a padded reich.
>>8904 Are you saying that trannys are mental clowns that must spread their shit everywhere?
>>8904 Nothing wrong about mental illness, but if you have one it's your job to manage it and try not to be too much of a bother to others over it even if it may be hard. Speaking as some one with mental health problems that have resulted in getting involuntarily committed a few times and having had to deal with all the unpleasantness of psychiatric treatment and medication I don't understand the glorification of mental illness and people self diagnosing or using legitimate mental health problems as an excuse for bad behavior or to bully others that comes up so much on certain parts of the internet. I don't understand why trannies get so much mainstream approval and political attention either. Other body image disorders are not encouraged like gender dysphoria is. Doctors aren't encouraging anorexia and bulimia resulting from obsessing over body weight because it results in very obvious physical health problems. No doctor with a shred of ethics is going to amputate a perfectly functional limb just because of body integrity dysphoria. It's not even serious mental disorders that have this problem. Just why do trannies get special treatment? Some contempt for the limitations and imperfections of one's flesh is actually a normal feeling. Religion, philosophy, and fiction have been trying to deal with this sort of thing ever since humans could understand it. It's part of being human. At best trannies don't seem much different than people who get obsessed with cosmetic surgery to me.
>>8624 Why is this hmmwoki comic in webp how tf do I save this to share I tried to search but it seems like whoever this based artist was they've been wiped out/twitter gulag'd
>>9015 No idea why it converted to webp on upload when it was originally a jpg and saved as such. Found it here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-2009#post-8458624 Only one from that artist I have as the associated twitter account is now gone.
I'm going to say this. Unless you're in the sex work ie prostitution industry transphobia isn't that big a deal. ((But trans people don't have their gender validated and get misgendered.)) No you can't compell people to speech claiming that's somehow bigotry is ridiculous. Also all the lefty types trying to push out everyone to the right of Blue Anon is only going to create a growing resentment and backlash. Listen this is a community about your fetishes. It's good to be sex positive I'll be cool with pornstars doing their job. But you can't force me to accept you. I believe trans people should be tolerated and ensured that they're treated fairly. But you can't force me to accept you and treat you as a woman if you look like a lumberjack in a sissy outfit. Reddit is a horrible echo chamber of a community run by a bunch of incel transgender jannies who have their own issues. If you want to have a community and only have based diaperfurs/abdls shoot create a conservative Abdl chat on telegram it's a start at least.
>>8732 >implying anyone within the academia takes whatever that nutjob says seriously He's a pseud, just like the jungians or the psychoanalysts. the only thing of value psychoanalysis has produced lately is a funny slovenian marxists who's highly memable, but aside from that he's just as much of a pseud as everyone else. Even Peterson is more respectable that Zizek since at least he has 20 yeears of clinical experience.
>>9031 Biggest problem with the way trans has been used and abused is to bully everyone like some sort of tranny gestapo when all people want to do is shit their diapers in peace.
Just to remember, dislike of something is not phobia. Even though I don't want to watch porn from trans persons, I have no phobia over them and I respect them as human beings.
>>9147 >human beings
>>9147 YWNBAW
>>9120 I mean true no one wants to be bullied because they wore a dress once or have a fetish being told that they're trans and need to have sexual reassignment surgery and or take hormones. For all the shit I give normies they're not the ones going into Abdl spaces and demanding I respect people's pronouns or else. You're not bullied out of Abdl spaces for being trans you're usually kicked out of Abdl spaces because you managed to somehow creep out people. I mean if anything the problem with the Abdl community is the fact that it's such a left wing echo chamber at least babyfurs are that you can't have a conversation outside of here.
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>>9147 Transphobia is just a rhetorical device designed to shame people into submission. No one is irrationally terrified by trannies. >>9162 They are humans. They're just delusional. Most of them are simply unfortunate souls. Some of them are extremely annoying. A few of them would be dangerous if they had any real power over anyone. I don't doubt they sincerely believe that they are a different gender. But I also don't believe them anymore than I believe Mormons or Scientologists who are also sincere in the crazy things they say. More importantly I just don't think it's possible to change something like that. Not with our current technology anyway. Just like I don't think a person can change their race. Almost no one would accept any level of blackface makeup, changing of clothes, invasive surgeries, and mimicking mannerisms would make a person who wasn't black into a black person. Short of growing a whole new body and transplanting someone's brain I don't think we're going to get anywhere close to a person being able to change their gender or race, regardless of their motivation. And even then you'd still have missed out of the experiences of growing up a particular gender, of a certain race, in a distinct society, and at certain time in history. No amount of wishing and delusional thought is going to transform me into an American black woman from the silent generation. Not believing the delusional person or the people manipulating them for profit doesn't make me afraid of them. Not that I don't try to at least be polite to them in public, but as much as we're told that misgendering someone is harming them I can't help but feel that being asked to play along with a crazy person's delusions at all times under penalty of being sent on "sensitivity training" by HR, or cancelled by a mob of deranged morons on twitter is not good for my mental health either.
>>9221 >Transphobia is just a rhetorical device designed to shame people into submission. No one is irrationally terrified by trannies. Exactly, either both sides get to name their opponents or each side gets to name itself. Either I'm super straight and their transgenders Or I'm transphobic and they're faggots.
>>9147 >dislike of something is not phobia they change definition of words so it can mean that for some people
The right on COVID: >catching and spreading deadly diseases is a basic human right >we demand to be able to cross any border while refusing to take basic hygene measures >3.5 million dead (including 12,000 children) is a small price to pay for freedom >wearing masks in schools is literally Hitler, except worse because Hitler was cool The right on trans people: >you don't have the right to do what you want with your own body >we just want to save trannies from themselves, while also calling them subhuman and telling them to kill themselves >they're endangering themselves so they should be locked up in asylums >Look at these HUNDREDS of trannies who regret their decision! It's a public health emergency! >we can't let these "people" near our women or children! They're dangerous!
>>9233 Nice strawman. YWNBAW.
>>9221 Agreed, they have my sympathies for any mental issues present, but playing along with and encouraging someone's mental disorders that cause them to physically harm themselves comes off as unethical and immoral. Even outside of mental health issues being confronted with view points and ideas that conflict with our own is part of how we learn and grow. Despite what futurist and transhumanist optimists like to believe it is very unlikely that the sort of bodily autonomy and freedom seen in science fiction is going to happen in our lifetimes. Science and medicine have a long way to go for that sort of thing if it ever does become a reality. The medical treatments and surgeries used for physical transition don't turn someone into the opposite sex anymore than plastic surgery is going to produce an appearance that will be passed on to one's children. Some may get comparatively good results, but at best it's just a flesh sculpture simulacrum. Like it or not and no matter how much we may want otherwise we are all born with various physical traits we can not change and upbringings and backgrounds that shape who we are as people. The lottery of birth isn't fair, but it is a fact of life. >>9233 This seems like a very obvious straw man and non sequitur troll attempt. This is the first post mentioning COVID and it's irrelevant to the thread. While Left and Right politics have been mentioned in this thread it's mainly in reference to how very politicized sexual preferences and gender identity have become, even to the detriment of legitimate criticism and research that may be helpful. It's been repeatedly noted in this thread that the reason many people have a dislike for trannies and self identified alphabet people online is mainly because they don't want to be bullied and shamed into agreeing with ideologues and wanting to avoid drama. Every fandom and community has creeps, attention whores, drama queens, perverts, and bullies along with the moderate people that just want to enjoy, discuss, and live in peace with their interests. ABDLs have them, Furries have them, Weebs have them, Trannies have them. The problem is that the ones present in LGBT communities often get a lot of attention and moral and political approval for their behavior at worst or get dismissed and ignored with No True Scotsman fallacies and similar rationalizations at best. There are also some very real problems with how gender dysphoria is diagnosed and treated professionally, as well as what should be obvious issues with how some communities deal with and discuss mental health problems online. Echo chambers are not a helpful thing here. It's also been pointed out earlier in the thread that other forms of body image disorders aren't treated and encouraged in the manner gender dysphoria is despite all the various complications that can result from transitioning and suicide rates still being significantly higher than the general population in post transition transgenders. That post operative transgenders still have relatively high suicide rates is theorized to be a combination of transition complications and side effects leading to lower quality of life (lowered quality of life and health issues and related side effects and complications of treatment are the main reasons suicides rates are highest in the elderly as well) and mental disorders that are commonly comorbid with gender dysphoria still being present after transition.
>>9235 you say strawman and pull a motte and bailey. many here and other places hold a position of trans being subhuman and fall back to being bullied by 17 year olds on twitter as justification. I dunno if trans is healthy or not but who cares it's their choice. being bullied online was what originally prompted social lefties to be called delicate snowflakes and now rightoids are unironically being snowflakes to justify their aversion to trans. grow up and understand words online are just that.
There's some good arguments and points made here, but as >>5962 said this thread is largely a trainwreck. It's not unexpected, subjects like this always devolve and derail at this point. I enjoy gender bender stuff, traps, and futa personally, I'm just annoyed that online trannies have a bad habit of butting in and inserting themselves into every fucking thing or making themselves the center of attention and being no different than everyone else that uses their RL identity to avoid criticism and try to silence people they don't agree with. Just... how exactly does "I got the other person to shut up out confusion and frustration... or banned... or canceled... or whatever, therefore I win." make sense? They still have the same beliefs and nothing is actually changed and no better understanding is made for either side. The person you were arguing with is just not arguing anymore. Reddit used to be a decent site before tranny jannies and various politards got a hold of it for example. I don't care with whatever the fuck people identify as. If you're reasonably polite and aren't going to attack people for slights, I'll give you the same. I just want to enjoy my interests without being forced into this weird real life roleplay and not having people blow up at not doing so or having to be concerned with stepping on a land mine and getting jumped on for not saying the right thing. Hell, I've had trannies and white knights get pissed at just mentioning the term hermaphrodite in the biological sense, as in actual animals or fictional beings that have that trait. It used to be used to refer to intersex conditions, but as noted in the intro for the below article it has fallen out of favor in using it to refer to humans and it was technically incorrect in the first place as there has never been any case of a human having both reproductive functions present. It's like people getting offended at the use of trap and futa in purely pornographic or fictional contexts. https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-3-319-47829-6#introduction At this point every time something like that happens my first thoughts are, "Who the fuck was talking to you or anything not in the work being discussed?" and "Again with this nonsense?" It's not even gender and identity politics specifically really. I just miss when a lot of online communities weren't so serious and political and concerned with RL nonsense all the time. People can't leave things at the door anymore. Really hoping this thread gets locked or deleted soon. >>9266 I'm always confused with responses like this. >responds to a decent post that doesn't agree with the idiot bringing up "Right Wing = Evil" rhetoric unprompted with a "No, you." without explaining any further >apparently ignores most of the post that points out the issue isn't trannies specifically, it's all the drama and shame tactics associated with gender and identity politics that most people have a problem with which has been mentioned multiple times in thread by different anons Even when people do discuss this stuff and it is the point of a thread they can't avoid bringing knee jerk emotions and insulting people for not agreeing or just being plain dismissive rather than engaging with the argument. Can we just ignore this thread and get back to ABDL without bring up RL political nonsense? I know that's hard for a lot of people, but please at least take it to /pol/ if you want to discuss this kind of thing so much.
>>9267 Apologies, screwed up the link for the article on biological hermaphrodites. Corrected: https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-47829-6_329-1
>>9267 >I'm always confused with responses like this. Xe mad
>>9267 >Just... how exactly does "I got the other person to shut up out confusion and frustration... or banned... or canceled... or whatever, therefore I win." make sense? They still have the same beliefs and nothing is actually changed and no better understanding is made for either side. The person you were arguing with is just not arguing anymore. You're looking at it from the perspective of someone who would seek an actual dialog, where even if you and whoever you're arguing disagree on something you may at least come to some sort of understanding as both sides have their beliefs challenged in a constructive way. The problem is that sort of growth isn't the goal anymore. Instead, the strategy has shifted to minimizing the amount of exposure the uneducated or undecided get to the idea that opposes your own. You may not have convinced the person you're arguing with that their beliefs are wrong, but you don't need to if they no longer argue them. If you can get that person to leave the conversation, you have free reign to push your ideas onto others who aren't so firmly entrenched without opposition, or at least the same level of it. It's the same logic behind why "de-platforming" has become a thing: if someone loses access to their audience (banned from social media, show gets canceled, etc.) then they lose the ability to express their beliefs to as wide of an audience.
The idea of a tranny is hot, the reality is not.
>>9320 Natalie Mars diaper content is hot.
>>9323 I make an exception with porn-related stuff though. There is some really good trans stuff out there. Natalie is qt too
>>9267 >apparently ignores most of the post that points out the issue isn't trannies specifically, it's all the drama and shame tactics associated with gender and identity politics that most people have a problem with which has been mentioned multiple times in thread by different anons that's exactly what I did, in fact that's all I did. read it again idk I agree though this thread should be deleted, politics doesn't belong here. just sage your posts at least
>>9323 >>9326 >hot If you're into "women" with bowl cuts that cover up their male pattern baldness.
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>>9326 It's just most of porn with actual transgenders is godawful because they don't look good at all. For every transgender that looks decent there's dozens more that just look like bad attempts at drag or crossdressin and have stuff like beard stubble and male pattern baldness or deep voices (or a weird badly done falsetto in some cases) and very masculine looking builds and facial features... and just absolute cringe in the way they dress and behave. It seems like a lot of online trannies have the fashion sense of eight year old girls or can not accept that some stuff will never look good on them. Basic fashion involves dressing with what works for your build which a lot of trannies ignore. Doesn't help there's a lot of trannies that are also weebs and into comics and vidya, not exactly a good source for practical fashion sense. Specifically to ABDL, it is incredibly cringe and creepy to see some middle aged to elderly person dressed and acting like a child. The only way it can really come off as not is if it's played for deliberate comedy or caricature as seen sometimes in fiction. Pics related as an example. Also the guy in the pics there left his family of a wife and seven kids to live out his fantasies with some other couple. It's not unique and there's a surprising amount of guys with families suddenly coming out as transgender after years or decades. I'm sympathetic to gays and lesbians and even transgenders that married out of social pressure and obligation, but once you've had kids and family this is something you do not get to do. If you're married and have a family like that there is responsibility to them no matter what your personal wants are. A parent suddenly deciding to openly play out tranny fantasies is incredibly insulting to the spouse and harmful to the kids and comes off as underhanded if they knew about that part of themselves before marriage. It's not exactly helping the cause of transgenders either if their own relatives and kids start hating them because of a weird response to mid life crisis to the point of even leaving because of it. There's also that it's very unlikely anyone middle aged is going to get good outcomes from transitioning or be capable of passing well. It's known that younger transgenders tend to get better results. Reddit's various tranny threads also have a lot of ugly and unpassing example pics, but of course the typical Reddit crowd is never honest about this and can't even give constructive criticism about it
All I’m saying is that in this kink transsexuals are exceptionally delusional and unbearable, which is saying something in a fetish where people willingly shit themselves. Even the ones that seemingly have “amazing” support from their “loving and inclusive” community post about how they’re on the verge of committing suicide every day.
>>9434 that's because of people like you
>>9460 Lol wut. We're on a branch of an alt-right imageboard which splintered because the old admins didn't allow drawn cp. The world is brimming with people who despise everyone here and want us not to exist. Somehow, we exist without being daily on the verge of suicide. Trans people aren't suicidal because people hate them, it's just how they are.
>>5885 Months ago i saw a dumb argument saying porn sites need to remove Trans options (or she/he some sites call it) cause you shouldn't sexualize being trans.... yet pornhub,xtube,xvideo,xhamster and thisvid has videos titled like "trans weting diaper" but remember these are community posted and not made by companies (except illegal uploads from sites) So are trans telling trans to not say they are trans when there is a audience for people who might prefer non cis people? Like with futa? What about the twinks and the sissys or this ruining "toxic femaminity" < yes I can't spell fuck you. What's funny is people who mock the abdl communitys like recently oil london (the transrace "korean" always pick on the fat adult baby people which included one guy who identified as Trans. Ironic people follow a transrace British to "korean" are fine with him mocking a fat trans adult baby which by twitter logic is fatphobic, transphobic and agephobic. So sorry what's the limit Cause what I'm leaning is Your free to express yourself....but you yourself can't sell yourself in a sexual manor no matter diapered,gay (unless women are ok with it cause....gatekeeping)trans or whatever Just let people just have fun and aslong they arn't publicly distributing people with your sexual acts Your fine no matter if you wanna be sissy or twink or some furbabyfag (seriously why is it furrys and abdl can say fags but gays are afraid to say it Seriously black people take nigher back Gay people take queer but they won't take fag?)
>>24980 Since someone decided to bump this dumpster fire of a thread and I'm bored I guess I'll try to decipher the bad (possibly drunk?) spelling and respond. Saging though, let's just let this sink back down, please? >>>Months ago i saw a dumb argument saying porn sites need to remove Trans options (or she/he some sites call it) cause you shouldn't sexualize being trans.... yet pornhub,xtube,xvideo,xhamster and thisvid has videos titled like "trans weting diaper" but remember these are community posted and not made by companies (except illegal uploads from sites) What the LGBT community has become (especially online) is full of hypocrisy, double standards, grooming, and nonsense arguments. It's really obvious to anyone examining it and not buying into the dogma. There's people saying don't sexualize trannies, but at the same time there's people saying it's "transphobic" or "TERF" to not want to have sex with one. That's all sexualities too pretty much. FTMs get mad when gay guys don't want to fulfill their fujoshi fantasies and that straight women don't want a manlet that may have a frankenpenis made out of arm skin. MTFs get mad over lesbians not wanting a "woman" with a penis and straight guys wanting someone without a crotch hole made out of scrotum and intestine and can actually have children. These same people hate it when people who are specifically into trannies are attracted to them too comparable how fat chicks bitch about not being able to get a normal man, but chubby chasers are specifically interested in them. There's even the term "cotton ceiling" a tranny porn star made up to refer to lesbians not wanting to have sex with him and others. People looking for porn online want to be able to find what they're looking for easily. People already get annoyed with trannies deliberately mistagging themselves as the wrong sex and cluttering search results with stuff people aren't interested in. Trying to get trans categories removed on porn sites is just another part of the attempt at shaming people into being attracted to and have sex with trannies >>>So are trans telling trans to not say they are trans when there is a audience for people who might prefer non cis people? Like with futa? This is nothing new. There's SJWs claiming "trap" and "futa" (to the point they're ban worthy on certain sites) as offensive terms when nearly all use is in reference to porn or anime/manga not actual people in non-porn contexts. The lie of "x is x" is just cope. It's the same logic of referring to real women as "birthing persons" or "womb havers" even though that's very obviously offensive to any woman not drinking the lefty koolaid. There's also male equivalents like "sperm contributor". >>>What's funny is people who mock the abdl communitys like recently oil london (the transrace "korean" always pick on the fat adult baby people which included one guy who identified as Trans. Dude is probably just trying to make being transracial seem less bad than weird fetishes while equating it with transgender. Someone posted the comic earlier in the thread, but it's still relevant. People buying into transgender rhetoric also have difficulty explaining why transracial (blackface, yellowface) is bad but not transgender (womanface) too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJQOSV3lJNw >>>Your free to express yourself....but you yourself can't sell yourself in a sexual manor no matter diapered,gay (unless women are ok with it cause....gatekeeping)trans or whatever I don't know what you're expecting here. There's a lot of pushback and hate involving e-thots at this point because of how entitled and insulting to their audiences some of them can be. "I'm attractive! Give me money simps!" is a stereotype for a reason. >>>Your fine no matter if you wanna be sissy or twink or some furbabyfag (seriously why is it furrys and abdl can say fags but gays are afraid to say it Agreed if you don't intrude on other people who aren't interested and can behave and function in normal society. >>>Seriously black people take nigher back Even some black people hate that, but the whole thing on what it's okay to call black people is weird. Where I'm from normal people, both black and white, will think you're weird if you say "African American" in normal conversation. It's considered awkward, overly politically correct, and overly formal. Only people that use it are new anchors, local politicians and TV people. Everyone else just says black. Colored and Negro used to be common, but changed due to euphemism treadmill and it's even in the name of major organizations that were founded when those were acceptable such as UNCF and NAACP. Now we're at a point where "People of Color" is considered acceptable by lefties for anyone who isn't white (and that's a whole other thing since a lot of people see it as equivalent to saying "Brown People" with how it's used), but it should be obvious that it's just "Colored People" with the words rearranged. >>>Gay people take queer but they won't take fag?) Some people even get offended with it being used in British slang. I think part of it is people getting more political and overly sensitive over the years.
>>24987 honestly one of the most based posts i've seen anywhere on this constellation of issues anywhere, let alone on this site. agreed on all points
there's an insane amount of trannies in the abdl community though, to the point it's a running joke in /lgbt/. I wonder why that's the case.
>>24996 HRT can cause urinary leaks, and trans are already mentally unstable
>>25008 I have a trans friend who hates people likeblair white who gives them a bad image Cause my friend don't mind me learning about her like is she physically trans or just mentally as in she do surgery or just dress She don't even mind the minor stuff like if she now she and is into men she calling that straight or still gay And this is what i wish queer people are like by letting newbies understand them and not getting trigged cause someone didn't real the entire lgbt wiki with every single flag (seriously just cause abdl has a flag don't mean they wanna be part of lgbt as they are already part with bdsm community) Like seriously no one is special as were all just the same animal with different advantages and disadvantages in life Don't forget greeks used to be so fucking open you can meet a popular toga wearing speeker and say "say you wanna fuck while my goat watches" and they would join you no matter your sex (not saying gender cause they didn't care what you identify aslong they are comfortable with dick or vag or maybe non/both) Now I'm not gonna say racism,sexism and etc don't exist of cause they do But when someone in your own group fucks up and you don't call them out making sure 100% this isn't like that then we can't take you seriously Like when pamperchu fucked up microwaving diapers, stealing dirty diapers and even confessing to being a pedo and a zooaphile Everyone (except diaper fonz btw he can fuck off for gatekeeping abdl lost media) stright up called him out and wanted nothing to do with him banning him in every abdl section You have the trans shooter and trans people fucking defended the fuck cause they were trans forgetting THAT PERSON IS A PURE MURDERER Seriously this is why i believe there a subgroups to all groups the yings and yangs I don't care if your a diaperfag,furfag,trans,black white,asian,male,female,xe ,zer If your Willing to fucking gatekeep your own group to even defending actual bad people in your group you need look at yourself in the mirror and ask "should i even bother" cause even suicide cults can agree on things more then anyone else At least they all went together Tl:dr don't care what group your apart of kick the bad people out and keep the good people and don't make yourself look like a stupid joke and let people learn from your group then getting mad for wanting them to learn
>>9430 That recently drama with mr beast was stupid cause unlike the guy on the left Mr beast friend didn't leave her kid to be trans Her and her wife just didn't get along but they both wanted to chip in for the child She didn't run away and go "fuck this shit I'm out" Look at people at kiwifarms who act like this is the father going out for some milk situation but people didn't check the dad socials to know he did come back with the milk and is playing cs:go with his son Tho forcing the kid to wear hears before it even can say mama is giving me baby contests vibes (seriously if fine to dress your kid and make them wear silly hell even nerdy onesies but don't use rhe stupid excuse of "my baby knows is trans from birth" bullshit cause that's indoctrination and will mentally scar your child before it even becomes selfaware of it self)
Only against trannies trying to cis-pass, the very rare ones.
>>25016 Trannies trying to pass as girls. Or boys...
>>25017 Ahh On a inflatable group i was in on telegram There was this trans who...well she like the recent illuminaughtii She abused her admin privileges,was rude to everyone and trys to be edgy but comes of like reddits version of 4chan One day i said i don't find her attractive cause I'm not into trans (which even my friend understand since you might love women just not women are are biologically men) She gets in my dms and says BUT I AM A WOMAN which i responded. "But your trans right?" She agreed but i told her i just not into former males She says it again "BUT I'M A WOMEN" which i said to explain i never said she not But your not a woman woman cause there is a difference between sex and gender (one physical, one mental which is funny cause apparently that's offensive despite it being just as true as identifying as a dragon,xe or diaperfag) it took about 30 posts of her saying BUT I'M A WOMAN before she understood that i never once said she not a women,nor do i give a shit Your trans and I'm not into that simple as How is it my trans friend can understand exactly what i mean while someone in the inflatable group (which i sware the inflatable community is getting worst) can't understand
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Your culture war has failed and nobody gives a shit. kys.
>>9233 Nice strawman but in both cases >Medical industry gaslights the fuck out of you into taking a 'safe' elective procedure with no liability, which happens to make them billions and given high mortality rates after the procedure seems to do more harm than good.
Fuck trannies I just summarized the entire thread
>>25038 This, every troon I have ever meet has been some of the most miserable and narcissistic people I have ever meet. I try to be nice but they make it so hard to like them
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>>25046 except they're right. As a trans myself I've met a lot of miserable narcissists in trans communities to the point that I'm feeling like the minority for being happy with myself and life. Running around with undiagnosed mental disorders and untreated traumas online and forcing people to interact with their own self destructive behaviors.
>>25051 And I've met several that aren't. Your anecdotes make you fucking retarded. Again, kys.
>>25051 If you don't mind me asking you physically or mentally trans?
>>25052 I didn't say they were all, just that there's a majority out there. Honestly would not surprise me if you're also one of those types that ruins groups by being insufferable with their own life issues. >>25053 Both I'd guess. Although physically I'm not getting srs because of the negatives to it. I know I'll never biologically be female, but I'm fine with passing as one.
>>25046 >>25052 >Trannies: Your personal experiences and feelings involving narcissists and bullies using being a tranny to excuse bad behavior don't matter and are retarded. >Also Trannies: We demand you alter your behavior and thinking based on our personal experiences and feelings. Are you hearing yourself? Literally woke gender concepts are based in subjectivity. We have people defending pronouns of people who make no or poor efforts to pass (while insisting they do) and making up words to define obscure made up subjective genders that have little to no relation to biological sex. People even defend the pronouns and trans status of mass shooters and convicted sexual predators. >>25054 >Both I'd guess. Although physically I'm not getting srs because of the negatives to it. I know I'll never biologically be female, but I'm fine with passing as one. I feel for you. Been struggling with mental health problems and body dysmorphia for more than a decade myself. I quickly recognized in my teens that barring some sort of impossible magic or scifi stuff somehow happening in real life I'm always going to be a hairy ape of a man. Is what it is, at least I've got fiction, memes, and porn. I genuinely sympathize with transgenders who recognize their limitations and don't try to compel the actions of others via shaming and bullying. I feel pity for the kids and teens now that are permanently damaging their bodies and sterilizing themselves due to social contagion and how that is also causing families to be broken up. It also makes me glad that I wasn't born a decade or two later because I could see myself getting sucked in by internet groomers preying on confused youth during my formative years if that was the case. Personally I probably wouldn't care about LGBT whackjobs on the internet as much if I wasn't bi and into gender bender art and fiction myself. Probably the most irksome I've found is those that will butt in on purely fictional gender bender discussion with real life tranny stuff like here >>10056 (and that's a mild example by comparison) or do similar things with other fiction. Every time I see something like that it's just a reminder of what will never be. I mean it feels like someone forcing themselves into a room of people engrossed in a work of fiction and shouting "YOUR FANTSY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU OF BANAL REALITY AND ITS TROUBLES WHILE YOU'RE ENJOYING YOURSELF." I'd also like to say I make a personal distinction between transgender and tranny. Transgenders are people who actually try to work with others and don't act delusional and dogmatic. They have my respect. Trannies are the dogmatic political nutjobs threatening and shaming people for not agreeing with them.
>>25057 That last part comes off sounding like you have some residual feelings of either jealousy or regret for those that can do something you may fantasize about, honestly. If you ever feel like doing some meditating or inner reflection maybe look into those feelings a bit and consider if it might be worth practicing ways to ease out what stress might be building that up.
>>25059 I've heard variations of that before for years on the net when I bring that up or similar issues in regards to mental health, dysmorphic feelings, and negative feeling on the world and others. I've done plenty of introspection over the years (occasionally with entheogens too). I admit, like anyone else, I know nothing, and there is no objective truth. I do feel the need to resist or push back when someone insists their subjective individual truth is The Objective Truth that others should believe in and conform to though. I'm aware that part of it is my own experiences with mental health and negative consequences for not keeping it under control. I admit I very much dislike the use of mental illness (and that is what body dysmorphias are, gender included, with how mental illness in general is defined) as a tool to try to coerce behavior from others. Especially with dysmorphic disorders when, based on the writings and speech going back to the dawn of civilization, contempt for the flesh is normal to some extent. There's a lot of stuff I could get into on feelings and examination of this sort of thing in myself and external observing others over the years, but it's far too much for here, it's something I'm not comfortable discussing even anonymously at this point because I've had repeated instances of people dogpiling me for some of the philosophical and spiritual views I have when I've attempted discussing them, and it's off topic for both this thread and board. I will flatly say, no, this is no internalized regret or jealousy. I've heard that before too and take it as an insult to suggest it. What the LGBT movement has become and the unethical medical practices associated with physical gender transition as it exists in the modern world disgust me. The latter can come off as medical horror to most (especially if they see the actual images and videos), there's no getting around that, and there's a reason people critical of it have compared it to the lobotomy of our time. Do I wish that I could have a physical form I want without the frailties and negative feelings of the current one? Yes, I do. But that's far from the only issue for me and I've learned over the years we usually don't get what we desire no matter how much we may desire or work for them. Acknowledging that doesn't make the desire go away, but it does help in easing and managed the related suffering. It is what it is.
>>25057 >Wants a nuanced conversation >on 8chan Oh give us a fucking break, troll. Proving right away you'll take the first chance you get to reaffirm your priors and then pretend you're somehow forced to have your opinion. Shit tier troll is shit. Kys.
>>25059 >That last part comes off sounding like you have some residual feelings of either jealousy or regret for those that can do something you may fantasize about <not a fan of trannies? you must be an egg! every single time
>>25023 >>25052 >>25070 K. Fascinating to think "Image Boards equal no nuance or intelligent discussion". Such a good response to say, "Image Board means no one can have a thought out reply beyond three sentences." You're so clever and better then everyone else to say "It doesn't matter, so let's shit post and insult each other, as if that will have an actual effect on other anons." in the more than two decades image boards have existed. Honestly, this is a combination of hilarious and sad to see now because I'm aware of named users on forums and chats that never grew out of this phase. This used to be very obviously edgy teenagers with the belief they have original ideas. I admit I was like that at one point as a teen, but I've also seen clearly thirty something millennials that never grew out of it muddling things. Good job with "You're wrong and an idiot. KYS" being the point of three separate posts. >>25072 Amen, brother.
>>25074 yeah man thats deep *shits diaper* *faps to video of woman shitting diaper* anyone want to have generic troons bad argument we've heard a million times whilst i fap?
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>>25072 Didn't say that at all. You should probably go back to playing with the teething ring if you can't read the letter blocks. Trans egg culture is veiled grooming; suggesting that there may be repressed feelings or bottled up remorse doesn't immediately equate to "you're trans!" If you think that's the only solution to emotional issues you probably deserve therapy
>Is the reddit*r here true? Is there any transphobia in the ABDL community? maybe in places like this or whatever but the overall community is very accepting and I'd say it's how I found out I was trans
>>25008 a lot of people have incontinence problems and that doesn't mean they turn into abdl. Most of the cases in which this happens are the ones that were incontinent during their childhood, not the ones that become incontinent at adult age.
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>>25111 Tell me you know nothing about the trans community without telling me you know nothing about the trans community. Everyone's a groomer to you retards
Is everyone still bitching about this Can we just locked the thread of already as is getting fucking boring now
>>25120 Seconded. Bunch of fucking losers trying to bring politics...into a diaper fetish forum.
>>25122 What's funny For 8chan being known for is illegal means is amazing how nice and respectful /abdl/ been Yet places like kiwifarms they will linch ya for even showing your interests Like i was in a pamperchu section and my research made me find out pamperchu was part of diapers and inflatables community (one his home videos showed me had a party ngl wish i could of joined) cause it showed he had a rare puffypaw wolf which as part of both groups i was pissed off I mentioned about another abdl cunt diaper fonze which kiwi groups already had space for him and he was just as bad as he defends pampers illegal actions but one i saw was he had 5 tapes of abdl pornos from like the 40s qnd instead of releasing them to the public he wanted $30 per film on one them coffee donation sites but thats $30 separate donations for each film worst still HE FUCK COPYRIGHTED THE FILMS he fucking legally owns the copys and will sue you of you even find other copys I told him off for this crap and he went all baby googoo and luckily his channel gone But anyways i told kiwifarms about it but they were suspicious of me cause unlike here they will murder you if fetish isn't just "WOMEN am i right?"
I think in my area is happened around 4-5 years ago, the biggest abdl group in my area became completely inundated/run by the most pretentious trannies on the planet. If you were not 100% on board and supporting/loving those weirdos, you were completely blacklisted. I'm fine with that because I stopped attending events because of this. It's seems like in abdl, it's all or nothing, you fully support the trannies, or you're like me and have a kiwifarms account. I miss hanging out with lollylalaz and diaperedkitten, we're still on decent terms, but they've mostly denounced me because, at least in lolly's situation, she still needs clients for her session services, and trannies and tranny adjacent pervs still make up a lot of her business. I don't mind the weird sissies, at least they admit it's a fetish. The trannies just can't help but bring social issues and politics into the kink community and its fucking exhausting.
>>25134 Okay, see, it kills any and all credibility when you talk about "pretentious" and "weird" like you're okay with that until those folks are trans. Like I don't care much for ANYONE who's pretentious, and given we're on a diaper forum, we're all fucking weird. There's a lot of shitty fucking people out there, and frankly, I don't give a fuck about anyone being trans, I give a fuck about them being shitty. This whole fucking conversation has been nothing but anecdotes after anecdotes. For every dumbass anecdote there's another contradicting it, there's a fucking reason "anecdotes aren't data" is a phrase that gets kicked around. So for the love of fucking god, can we please PLEASE lock the fucking thread and move one with our lives. JFC.
>>25135 I've got a lot more anecdotes outside of the kink community that end with "all trannies are shitty people". Yeah, I'm a weirdo, but I ain't seething like some faggots here.
>>25135 Literally I find the anti-trans fuckers more annoying than any trans people I've met. And yeah, that's an anecdote again but agreed. This thread is just a flame war.
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>>5885 Can we just agree No Matter the groups The bad people should be punished but the good people we should support Like how just stop oil, Greenpeace and peta are bad but teamtrees are good So trans shooter is horrible and should be punished but trans people just living a normal life should just been seen as good "Call out the bad support the good"
>>25139 >just living a normal life Are you fucking serious?
Last place I'm having an argument about anything is in a fucking alt-right haven like here, and for damn good reason, people need to become un-retarded about these fuckers https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84
Why so many arguments revolve around: >LOL why are we debating this on a chan? If you tell the truth inside a bar it becomes a lie because you're inside of a bar? This is a fallacious argument. Also, for those claiming people are obsessed with trannies, consider this: Trannies don't live in anybody's head rent free. They kick the door to your head down and shit on the carpet. They put themselves everywhere until there's nowhere left to enjoy. These people don't leave you, your space or your thoughts alone and if you try to have a debate without them, they insist on making it about them. Then, they claim we are obsessed. It's all so tiresome. BTW you can hide a thread by clicking on the 🛇 left to the thread's tittle. You won't have to see this thread or engage with it. But we all know none of you will do it, you love the attention you get.
>>25141 what an american thing to say white vs black left vs right fuck you and fuck trannies and fuck your political party too
>>25146 lololol We all know which faggots rez'd the dead thread here. Again, kys.
>>25148 >BTW you can hide a thread by clicking on the 🛇 left to the thread's tittle. You won't have to see this thread or engage with it. This is the way
>>25151 The thread is alive because I think think some of the most tolerant kinksters (abdl) are getting sick of trannies. I also think that more mainstream kinks are getting tired of AGP's as well. I also think vanilla/normies of all walks of life are getting sick of middle-class white dudes putting on dresses and claiming victim status, and demanding special privileges.
>>25146 >If you tell the truth inside a bar it becomes a lie because you're inside of a bar? This is a fallacious argument. you're missing the point, you don't go into a bar ranting about trannies whilst people just want to have drink, if you want to argue about troons go on twitter and argue with a real one
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>>25154 Lmao, yeah okay, any amount of mental gymnastics you gotta do to fucking come back to your priors you fucking retard. You shitbirds just can't get over you're the real pedos here. Kys
>>25156 That's a lot of words you used to just say "I have no penis, and I must seethe"
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>>25158 I'm not a chomo or conservative, but thanks for the stats anyway I guess? Your browser history must be fucking wild.
>>25155 You are the one missing the point because you got attached to the analogy. This thread was made to debate the topic that it's actually being debated. Invading other threads and posting unrelated subject that would be a problem. And here the feature that let you hide threads becomes important: Everything is concentrated here, people can easily avoid it. Instead, people are choosing to come to this thread, read the posts and post themselves complaining about posts. The prediction said about people not hiding this thread turned out to be correct. You love the attention
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We've reached that awesome point where people bitch about other people bitching about other people and so on. Trolls trolling other trolls. How's the phrase go? Winning an argument is like getting a gold in the special olympics, you're still retarded at the end of the day.
>>25158 This, of course, is just pornography charges. Since blacks and, to a lesser extent, hispanics, can't work computers, they have less charges relating to internet usage. As for actually harming or sexually abusing a child, blacks and hispanics have far higher rates than whites. Just look at sexual offenses in general from the same site: https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Sexual_Abuse_FY21.pdf
>>25162 Wait a second, this pic has been posted before. >>25023 I think it's safe to assume all these straw man pictures with red cap and stolen memes are from the same person. What a shock. So, it's not trolls trolling trolls, it's one guy being trolled by the whole board. ABSOLUTE LEL
>>25165 So someone somewhere reused a meme format and suddenly it's proof it's all the same person. So what's your favorite flavor of crayon?
>>25165 Yup. And I bet it's an alphabet person too.
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>>25171 FTFY
>>25173 Way to use paint like a CHUD. How's that GED working out for ya?
>>25174 I dunno, how's your massive student debt working out for you? Going to go beg daddy Biden for another hand-out?
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>>25175 KEK, STEM paying the bills you wish you could have.
>>25178 Nice try, libs have gender studies degrees.
>>25178 > literally cancels the XL pipeline first day in office while setting a record for government overreach through excessive executive orders - much of it having nothing to do with your pet boogiemen like the heckin ebil antivaxxers/ gamer gators/ voldemort et al > but the president doesn't have anything to do with gas prices, tee-hee XD To say nothing of arguing with strawmen FROM OVER TEN YEARS AGO
I dont care if someone is trans. I DO care about trans people grooming children and forcing their pedo shit on people. Just look at their reaction to Florida giving the death penalty to child molesters and how they bitched about how they cant go to Florida now, which just shows you that a big chunk are literally people who do not belong in society. I also fucking hate trans shit being listed as female when they arent female but just a dude who cut their dick and balls off.
>>25247 You can play dumb about that all you want, but the "children around drag queens is sexual assault" law followed by "sexual assault (rape) is death penalty" pretty obviously makes clear what the intention is. I don't think seeing a man in a dress is sexual assault, okay, I don't. Not my thing for sure, but I'm far more concerned about getting by and not having my business regulated to death with dumb shit like "Top of the 18 wheeler needs to have no snow on the highway". That was fun to deal with. You know what's not going to help that? 400 stupid bills about trans this and trans that. I don't care. This whining about it, makes me care even less. And y'all gotta stop this shit in general man, I can't find any conservatives to talk to that aren't in an alternate reality and this just keeps reconfirming it. I'm lucky to have a sane Republican for my district, but if Repubs keep doing this shit I'm not gonna bother. The party needs to get it's shit together. And you need to stop fucking pushing this shit cause it's clear you don't give a fuck about me or people around me. Just fuck dude. Sick of it.
>>25249 No said anything about a man in a dress is sexual assault :/ The fact that they cancelled a pride parade because they werent allowed to walk around naked while minors were present is pretty telling. They could have done this while minors werent present but instead they cancelled because they couldnt. The intention of the law is pretty clear and only retards cant fathom why. Also your pretty fucking ignorant if you cant understand why you need to clear snow and ice from the top of a vehicle. Strange how you never hear of women saying their men. Stop being salty that people have woken up to the sick twisted shit that is being pushed on them and the children.
>>25253 lmao, 10 seconds to find https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/floridas-anti-drag-bill-might-impact-gay-pride-parades/3013373/ 15 years and only now it's a problem. >strange how Yeah, you do, ftm, retard.
>>25254 triggrd much?
>>25259 right wing weirdos projecting their own self hatred are the real triggered babies
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>>25295 >right wing weirdos projecting their own self hatred are the real triggered babies Sure! It's totally not the troons like you constantly crying victim one moment, then constantly harassing, doxing and trying to ruin the lives of people who say, just want to play a game about wizards because your mutilated penis pretending to be a vagina is hurt over the fact the author of the franchise understands basic biological facts like the fact that you'll NEVER be anything more than a man with a mutilated penis, anon. It's also totally not the fact that troons have been crybullying corpos to cancel anyone who won't drink their troonshine filled Kool-Aid and call them anything other than men. It's also totally got nothing to do with a rich, white, liberal entitled troon shooting up a school because Mommy and Daddy wouldn't play make believe. It's also totally not related at all to the mounting evidence that "Gender affirming care" for children does actually seem to include planning on mutilation. Troon hate is only going to get worse as more and more children realize it WAS just a phase and all of the pedofag teachers, "allies", doctors and hospitals lied to them and gaslit them into irreversible surgeries. If anything, you tranny faggots piss me off more for making the tradcuck right-wingers look at ABDL as pedoshit because of YOU. Go back to /r/ABDL with your fake tears and spoonfed political opinions.
>>25300 triggrd much?
>>25300 its okay if you want to transition dude, I think you are a very pretty lady and you dont have to think about trans people all the time as a projection for your self hatred. maybe ur just bi? Just get dicked and get over it or something lmao. sad that people cant see how obvious their outward expression is to others
>>5885 >>25300 This. Always this. All the time. I used to be a lot more liberal with the gender identity people, but after the last 2 years of this shit, I've peaked, and I have no more patience for dudes in dresses calling real women "bigots". Yall are gonna see the damage you've done to the alphabet community in like 10 years, and you won't even be able to fap to forget because you surgically tucked your dick into your colon. Everyone in my household is a democrat-voting-liberal-TERF, and I'm super proud of that. Fight me.
>>25325 >le egg theory Every single time.
>>25325 Not that guy, but kinda, Look, autogynephilia is hot, and I would love to suddenly be a girl, or at least the idea of it gets me off. It's not possible though, transitioning is a joke, you just end up a mutilated eunuch and the fact that troons are so out of touch with reality to not get that is why they're so disgusting. I get them, I share their fetish, but they're lack of being grounded in reality is pathetic, as pathetic as someone whom wants to toddle around in diapers openly on the street. Get a life you pathetic fucks and keep your bedroom shit in the bedroom.
>>25329 This isn't the "pwned the biggots" comment that you think it is.
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>>25330 I think it is. You're all fucking retarded. >>25326 The only trans people you even know of are from /pol, get real.
>>25331 I lived next to a dude that had a new tranny fucktoy every 6 months for 5 years. All of them tried to get me to befriend them and be a good neighbor. All of them left in handcuffs because of their poor behavior. But go ahead and put me in the box labeled "chronically-online-conservatives" if that helps you cope.
>>25331 (Most) minorities (on average) (99% of) immigrants Non-Christians and Christians (Most) liberals (and a good deal of conservatives) The Media The "Deep State" What do I win?
>>25332 Are they here with you now?
>>25327 its not a theory you just think it is because you want it, its the most triggering thing to people like you and the whole point is to upset you just like you intend. Its just hilarious that you are so cyclical in your anger that you seeth without realizing the banter
>>25336 Right. Banter.
>>25335 I never saw any of them after the cops dealt with it, but I also saved up enough money to move to a place that doesn't share walls so it wouldn't be an issue going forward. I've also been vocal with my new neighbors about my experience with trannies in hopes that it will discourage new weirdos from residing near me.
>>25338 I'd be very interested in the police reports and charging papers. Should be publicly available. 5 years all in the same place should make it easy to search for.
>>25339 You gotta mail in a request, 3-7 business days and $8 per ten pages of report, I never called the cops myself so I got nothing in my records. But if you're that much of a faggot and wanna take a stab at it, the trannies were always getting picked up from 1976 Vance St. In Lakewood CO.
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>>25340 Idk man, I think you're sitting on some Fox News Gold right there, make some big bucks for a story like that.
>>25341 I highly doubt "Tranny Arrested for Being a Menace" is a newsworthy headline.
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>>25342 I mean fuck man, take the hit for the team dawg, I'm sure people on here would love you for it *points to thread*
>>25345 I dunno about that either, Kiwifarms is more interested in weirdos with recurring behaviors and an online presence. I have no idea what their online presence is, so it would probably be a nothing burger. Besides, they've already got Kevin Gibes.
>>25348 Yeah same guy. His name was Wes, that's all I know. He probably did have an online presence and may have been lolcow worthy, but I was living too close to that shit to wanna do any digging or publishing at the time.
>>25350 White guy, beard. Don't see a truck that matches his in the parking, may have moved or gotten a new ride though. It's been quite a few years and I dunno when Google updated the street view. Each unit in that building had its own address, 1976 was his.
>>25352 Old pickup truck. Total shit heap, I think it was green. That's all I've got, haven't been round there for 4 years. Sorry I ain't got much else. Not sorry the seething tranny shut up since they realized my experience is legit. I would be surprised if he ended up somehow tied to the defunct Tenacious Unicorn Ranch.
>>5885 I don't hate trans people, you want to do something to your own body or wear certain clothes that still cover you, fine it's your life and body do what you want with it. You have the right and freedom to dress and do what you want so long as you aren't infringing on others or preventing them from living their life the way they want to. I don't even care if abdl's want to wear onesies and diapers in public, we give meaning to the clothes people are wearing, so long as you're abiding by dress codes you're fine in my book. But don't get all pissy and cry when someone doesn't want to be around you or doesn't want you around their children / in their place of work. People have the right to stay away from crazy and nobody should be forced to deal with you. If you fuck up your own life it should be YOUR responsibility, the community, and taxpayers shouldn't have to pay because you made shit choices and you had mental problems. My problem is their loud ass mouths and constant virtue signaling. It pisses me off that for less than 1% of the population we have to change all of society to fit these people and their mental illness. We have to allow these people into spaces that are meant for specific genders, into competitions for specific genders, we give them jobs meant for specific genders (why would any woman want to listen to a man tell them what product is best to shove up their vag? and what message does that send to other women when we tell them that these "women" are better for the roles than they are? The best woman is actually a man and you're not good enough.) If you don't bend over backward to be an "ally" or conform to these new demands (that change constantly) then you're "transphobic" or a "bigot" If you don't find them attractive or allow them to post their ugly ass pictures on a women-only page then you get canceled and the trans mafia comes after you to get you fired or have your site taken down. They constantly need reassurance that "nobody could tell you were a man/woman before!" "oh you're so pretty" "Yes you're actually a real man/woman it's not in your head" and if you don't shower them with praise 24/7 they make it out to be there's something wrong with you instead of their own mental illness. If you don't allow them to infringe into every aspect of their chosen genders (which they freely change on a whim) safe spaces. and don't treat them as their "preferred gender" They take it as a personal attack and do everything they can to get you fired and ruin your life. If a doctor treats one of these people as their biological gender then they're punished despite there being obvious differences between men and women when it comes to medical practice. If you question a child's belief that they may be the opposite gender instead of instantly affirming it then you're the devil and shouldn't be anywhere near that child. Then you'd say, "Well let's give them their own personal spaces where they can do everything with only trans people like themselves" Yes such a great idea let's bend over backward to hand less than 1% of the population their own safe spaces and force all these businesses and taxpayers to cater solely to things that benefit transgenders. Let's force gov to make a whole new set of laws and regulations on how to safely handle the eggshell that is the transgender population's mental, wouldn't want them to feel sad and commit die. Let's build whole new prison wings and hospitals that ONLY handle transgender people because we can't trust them in the male or female sections. I won't even go into the confusion all this bullshit is causing in the schools and how businesses have to include trans people in any decision they make, the list just goes on and on with these people and enough is never enough. It's just like BLM and shit, nobody wants equality they all want special treatment and everyone is a fucking victim. TL;DR : I don't hate trans people, I hate their sense of entitlement and constant crying. If they shut their mouths and lived as normal people instead of taking any slight as a personal attack and trying to force everyone to accept them nobody would give a fuck.
>>25365 Your pretend grievances and deliberate ignorance of the other issues going on has done nothing to change my mind, congratulations. Cope and seethe.
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>>25368 Troons have surpassed furfags for being the most annoying and cringeworthy representation of any community they're a part of in record time.
>>25368 Then change my mind. You're the ones trying to change society and force your beliefs on the public. You want to be accepted and change all of society to fit your mental illness. Prove me wrong then. everything in my post is exactly what the trans community does to anyone that doesn't bend the knee.
>>25375 And what, pray tell, have you offered, in this entire thread, to make me even remotely fucking believe you're willing to change your mind? Jfc man, trolls back in my day were just built better. You pieces of shit on the other hand, couldn't navigate a flame war with any degree of finesse if your lives depended on it. Kys.
>>25378 So anyone that doesn't bow down and doesn't understand you is a troll. That's where your mind is at? is back in your day after 2010 because it sure sounds like it. even back then trolling was a dead art and this is far from a "flame war" dude. I'm being genuine, I'm an independent voter that leans left, not some person in a cult that blindly follows what 1 party or the other tells me. I greatly disagree with the trans movement and other social justice movements. VItrue signaling and crying wolf anytime someone doesn't agree with you isn't the way to go about causing change. If you want average people to go along with this insanity you have to explain it and not claim everything is transphobia/racism/sexism/systemic bullshit. So I'm genuinely interested in why average people should listen and change their whole worldview for less than 1% of the population.
>>25380 I'm sure you are sweetheart. That's why you're on 8chan, in the /abdl/ section. Bless your little heart.
>>25381 I'm here because I can't stand having to watch everything I say in case I hurt someone's feelings. I'm a believer in free speech and hate censorship in all forms. But your response tells me everything I need to know. Good luck not committing die. I actually hope you do transition so that you can realize it won't make you happy on the inside, only therapy and accepting yourself as who you were born as will.
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>>25382 I'm so certain it wasn't a foregone conclusion. Such a shame. However will I cope.
>>25383 I'm not sure you will ever find a way to cope. You'll probably join the 31%
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>>25384 Spoken like someone who's so sincere in their motives. Is that your real fetish? Stepping on your own dick?
>>25385 I'm very sincere, I wanted to understand. But the actions you're showing right now explain a lot about your community. The one person in this thread that you could have possibly had a civil conversation with that actually wanted to understand your viewpoint you attacked because they instantly didn't agree with you. This shows why so many don't like it when the trans community tries to join in, they're mentally incapable of holding a civil conversation. They instantly result to violence/yelling/virtue signaling/ and unfunny "memes".
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>>25386 Congratulations, the thread has come full circle, here's your meme, yet again.
>>25387 Welcome back, Onideus,
>>25386 sincerely stupid, seethe you sanctimonious manchild, i have better convesations with people who are trans 98% more then I do with fuckwits with opinions like yours
>>25391 Just based on your posts, I'd say 98% of your conversations happen with other trannies, cuz I can't imagine another human being putting up with your militant troon bullshit. I can also see you having "better" conversations with T's cuz they're probably the only people who blindly agree with everything you say out of "support", even if you are saying some batshit retarded things.
>>25380 I'm super relieved to know there's atleast one other moderate leftist out there. All the ones I know are less retarded than me and keep their mouth shut.
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>>25394 Have you honestly spent so much time in rightwing circles that you think you sound believable? Honest question here.
>>25393 projection is a common thing for you isnt it
>>25394 Not the guy you're responding to, but I also consider myself a moderate leftist. I consider myself a socialist (in the "capitalism is the best system we have right now, but needs guardrails to prevent abuse" sense of the word) as well as being a gay male in a long-term relationship with another gay male. There are, thankfully, more people who think like us than you might expect based on my own experiences. My partner and I are both fully against the modern trans rights movement and the LGBT+ community that enables it, and with the conversations we've had with our real-life social circle, we've generally found that our feelings aren't especially uncommon. We're both supportive of the idea of trans people in general from just a logical standpoint. Regardless of whether or not being trans is a mental illness or an identity, if enabling someone to transition to the opposite sex will improve their happiness and increase their contribution to society, without negatively affecting other people, then we're all for it. It's that last condition where there are issues from our perspective, which we both think will ultimately harm LGBT individuals. When you have people over the slightest interpreted failing, that harms real trans people who are just trying to live their best lives without infringing on others, as well as LGB people who are now looked at less favorably by association. I don't have any preconceptions that I'll convince anyone of anything in this dumper-fire of a thread, as it's pretty obvious that most (if not all) people in this thread have come in with their own firmly-entrenched opinion one way or another, and I've just lurked up until now because of that. But for the more liberally-minded individuals who take issue with the current state of this particular topic, you're not alone, even if there might be disagreement about where the specific issues lie and how things should be addressed.
>>25403 I'm very curious about what specifically you take exception to, and how you've arrived at that those things are, in fact, a real problem. We have here in this thread an endless dose of anecdotes without any real world data to support them. It'd be of obvious benefit to help shed some real light on this, without of course, coming off as a troll.
>>25405 Right, like fucking #WalkAway astroturfing and that shit, it didn't work out overall but you could fucking tell people were full of shit. Idiots walk into that shit and have no damn clue.
>>25405 Any disagreement will be interpreted as trolling, so I'm not sure what you want, but if you want some sort of data: 41% That number is way too high and way too isolated to be anything less than a problem. And I already know someone is going to say bigotry is driving this number, but I tend to belive treating a mental issue (dysphoria) with a physical treatment (transition) is the real leading cause. >feels bad, probably because I'm not a woman >cuts off dick >still feels bad and no longer had a dick
>>25407 >I'm totally being honest and giving my honest opinion >Instantly resorts to stereotypes My dude, why are you so desperate to assert this shit, on a fucking diaper forum. The longer this thread goes on, the less people are gonna remotely take what people are saying in here serious. Move on. Dumbass.
>>25408 >statistics bad when I disagree with them Ah, so you actually don't give a shit. Good to know.
>>25409 Documentaries, news articles, college studies, and you can only bring up the most troll bullshit one anyone who's been on 4chan in the last 10 years has seen. Step up your fucking troll game or kys.
>>25410 I'm not the anon who brought up the statistic.
>>25411 My apologies, fuck the both of you then.
>>25408 As long as trannies are giving input, I'm glad to have the opinions in this thread being taking less seriously.
>>25410 I knew you'd say that. God forbid you address the number. Just seethe. Cope and seethe.
Damn, trannies seething.
>>25405 Before I actually get into why I have the position I do, I think your point about data is worth diving into. Data is extremely useful, but neither the data itself nor the ways it's gathered and analyzed are done in a vacuum. All science has human beings behind it, which affects it at every level. First and foremost, the data points that one could actually collect aren't always easy to come by, especially in regards to something like transitioning, which may involve medical records that have additional protections. What data is available isn't always reliable, either, and it isn't always free. That last point is especially relevant - science costs money to do well, and the people doing the research itself typically can't fund it out of their own pocket. Even if you're doing research purely based on publicly-available data, you still need to be able to put food on the table, so it either takes second place to a day job or you need some way to fund it. If you want your research to be published, you also need a journal to accept it, and they of course charge just to consider your paper. If a journal decides to publish it, it's typically only available to people who pay for access to it. If you want your results to be publicly viewable, that costs extra. So, researchers rely on grants or donations of some kind, and it's not unheard of for the results of any research to be "owned" by the one funding it rather than the one who did it. This means that, if the funding party isn't happy with what results are being returned, they just fire the researcher and the work done never sees the light of day. Hell, maybe the one funding it just doesn't find it worth the cost at some point and decides to throw it away for no political reason at all. Assuming you navigate all these complexities and publish a paper on a hot-button political topic that actually has some impact, your reward will likely be to have the side that your paper disagrees with harass you. Every idiot on Twitter will suddenly think they're a researcher and make threads on how your results were flawed based on their uneducated opinions, and you'll get calls, emails, letters, and DMs telling you you're grooming children or responsible for their suicides. No rational person would choose to go down this route unless it had personal significance to them in some way. There are plenty of issues in the world that you can research that won't get you death threats. So I would say the number of people with the right combination of education, luck, motivation, and funding to complete this end-to-end process is likely quite small. This also assumes the researcher doesn't have any bias themselves that comes up in their results, intentionally or unintentionally. All that said, data is great when its available and reliable, but if it's not available there are still conversations to be had. On the liberal side of things, there's a lot of focus lately on listening to the "lived experiences" of minorities, which is functionally the same thing. It's just a matter of contextualizing these anecdotes and being careful how strongly you buy into any of them. With all that said, my own opinions are based on my own anecdotal experiences with specific individuals, as well what I feel are hypocritical positions held by vocal trans activists that I've seen. In the first category, the individuals I've interacted with personally have been the type guilty of virtue signaling, in my opinion - they've been very quick to tell others why their actions or opinions are wrong in a way that puts people down (and elevates themselves) rather than actually help the offender potentially grow as a person. Some of these individuals were also the loudest "LGBT+ Allies" I knew while having what I would consider to be very harmful opinions - one specific individual I previously knew had argued that males who were raped in prison by other males were gay, as well as suggesting that conversion therapy works. For the latter point, I find that many of the positions held by these activists contradict other positions they hold, and the response to people pointing this out tends to be to simply respond with attacks rather than explanations. I think the concept of trans-racial individuals is an example of this: reasoning through it myself, I don't see a large difference between them, but trans advocates will attack one position while supporting the other. Another example is changing rooms. There was controversy a while ago about a MtF trans individual who had male anatomy using the women's changing room, and the women in the room being offended by it. While I understand that the trans individual was more comfortable using that room, the insistence that the needs of this minority should be catered to strikes me as hypocritical. Women also have a history of persecution, why is their comfort less important? Why does a trans person have more of a right to be comfortable than, say, a female victim of sexual assault who would be genuinely triggered by the genitals of the opposite sex?
>>25405 Real world evidence? Bruh half of this shit is personal takes and I'm going to guess they are entrenched in bias and lies. Yall mofos really fit the character of a lunatic very well. Shouldn't expect much else but goddammit! Seek some help please before you shoot up a school mr.white male nationalist Christian (likely from florida and sturdier than bricks)
>>25418 >demands empirical evidence > "I guess..." Bro, ur funny. Also, the year is 2023, school spree shooters are all trannies now, read a book.
I do find it comforting that the internet gives people with reasoning and intelligence lower then my 10 year old neice a home they so desperately need. The reality is that anyone who's super transphobic is also super mysogonistic and most likely has even more skeletons in their closet. They will grasp at any straw to get even a smidgen of validity even when there is none to be have and the other people are pandering to their insanity. If 99% of the medical world has an opinion backed with evidence you are literally putting on a tin foil hat and screaming at the sky. There is no difference between you are that. You are akin to the insanity of flat earthers, bird deniers, 5g and more. You guys honestly think about trans people more then people who are trans. It's the biggest self report I've ever seen. You know when a white guy says "I know a black guy I'm not racist" and everyone rolls their eyes and ignores them. That's yall. I dare you to have these conversations in real life so you can see how fucking insane you are.
>>25419 You can lie all you want but people k ow the reality. It's Christians. White male Christians to be exact. You can't anecdotal one example as the reason for over 5000 shootings. You are insane.
The best part of being opening as well. Having friends and going to parties. I've been to like 100 kink events since 2021 and it's been a blast. But nah. Yall just sit on this website jerk off and yell at the sky. So weird. I get it, yall are so full of hate that you can't even socialize anymore but goddammit, get therapy
>>25422 >>25421 >>25420 >>25418 >>25416 >Diapertranny: You guys think about trans people more than people who are trans! >Also Diapertranny: makes five back to back posts of seething, screaming at a dead board There are 3 people who post regularly on this site. You just arrived. You aren't going to convert anyone, groom anyone, convince anyone. Not only do you not have the numbers to do so, this isn't even a good target of opportunity for you. You just look like a schizoid talking to himself and the ONE other guy who even posts in this thread. I say this as one of the only other people who posts on this board, because you keep bumping this thread to the front page. The great irony of your anger is that this thread had NO POSTS for THREE MONTHS until you showed up in May. It was on like page 5 before you showed up and constantly bumped it to the front. Take your meds and leave the board. There is nothing for you here. This place is a graveyard.
>>25420 The two times I tried to have this conversation, the other side just went quiet and back to their home after I asked what they thought of Rachel Dolezal.
>>5885 I'm very 'live and let live', you do your thing and I'll do mine that doesn't seem to be compatible with transsexuals, they require you to do their thing, by legal reprimand if necessary that's not cool. I could tell you that being unable to express myself is equally traumatic and I require validation from everyone I encounter, but as I said, live and let live.
>>25425 They also cannibalize themselves. Look how much they attack and report videos from other trans people who are detransitioning.. If you don't promote the agenda and say the talking points they want to hear they come after you with the full force of the a-z mafia.
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Zis one time. Zis Jew. He kick. Mah dog. He kickah mah dog. So now. I must kill jews. It is only way. Eradicate all the jews. Jews are all the same. You know this. I know this. We kill jews now, yes?
>>25423 what a nonsensical post littered with incorrect assumptions and child like attacks. unlike you i will put my two cents and fuck off because I have a life and im quite busy. thats the best part. imagine being so attached to a thread that you know its history over months, sheeesh. interesting you said something about schizoids when you know said earlier in your post that you know i just started posting here yet forgot by the end of your post. you got someone competent attacking your ignorant views who is literally just an ally and suprise suprise. yet again the attacker shuts down and goes into personal attacks because there really isnt anything to your rhetoric that isnt anecdotal or baseless. its no different then living in a fantasy world. its sad.
>>25430 Holy shit. Shut the fuck up you retard. >>25423 Bro, you're right, but don't feed the trolls. There's some lefties that straight up hate our freedom here and would love to extol their trannie BS here too. Luckily BO is based. This board never struck me as /pol/, but we're certainly not the trannie leftist fuckwads either. Let's continue to be based and sage this thread.
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Just came bu to drop a sage.
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>>25431 Call me whatever you want but this retard is gonna be a doctor soon and you will still be jerking off and whining like a little baby bitch. Get a real argument and slap back harder you are pathetic
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>>25441 Sure you will sweetheart. Have fun dealing with AMA guidelines and code of medical ethics, you know, the ones involving trans people. Dumbass.
>>25442 I would have no issue with that at all as I have no intention of living in states that have such moronic overreaches of human rights. I am also a empathetic and compassionate person who doesnt focus on hate as my main interaction with other human beings. Also you are a dumbass making assumptions showing how stupid you are yet again, im going to be a vet
What company helps with detransitioning of patients? I wanna buy stock in it and make a fortune in a few years when all these idiots realize they were pressured to do the hip thing and ruined their lives for a meme. https://www.tiktok.com/@tonigirld/video/7221574505876180270
>>25441 This guy is clearly in his first semester at community college, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujC_Z2hlyw 5min. Even the gays are tired of trans people and their bullshit.
>>25448 Because nothing says "intimate understanding of social phenomena" like a rando with an edgy alchemy avatar on youtube. Standards of evidence so high you need a shovel.
>>25449 they are high actually, got a cherry picker to reach them
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>>25444 Boy do I have a hot item for you good sir
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>>25451 Oh man! How does one get in on this money-making goldmine??
I love the year 2023. When was the last time society had the chance to witness someone lopping of their dick and then calling other people retarded? What a time to be alive.
>>25482 A medical procedure after years of observation compared to OD'ing on horse grade Ivermectin. But sure, they're the one's who are retarded. Also congrats, if you ever find yourself a failure in life, it's because you can't go 24hrs with needing attention.
>>25483 theyre bitching about trans people on a diaper forum, theres no if.
>>25484 Welcome to 8chan Home of the "fucking nig,fig,tig" and anyone not 'normal' despite this board being next to people fucking animals and vidya gaes But people want to take femboy to the next level is a huge nono
>>25486 naw, we also hate fags and other degens besides the trannies
>>25487 That's why the fig and nig i said
>>25489 Jeebus said no figs dammit, it's rite there in the bibble
>>25490 Nah jeebus is busy snoring clouds and sucking daddy bent rainbow
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>>25490 One of my favorite bible verses, oldie but goodie. >>25483 Anyone dumb enough to get the jab. take horse dewormer, or delusional enough to think getting a gash between your legs, makes you a woman. Deserves all the pain and suffering their poor life choices give them.
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>>25492 If you're looking for validation from a diaper forum about your irrational hatred of people who don't affect your life, I'm thinking you should consider your life choices as well.
>>25493 Hard for it not to affect someone's life when it's constantly shoved in everyone's faces. and you can face real-world consequences if you don't go along with this insanity. Maybe if you stopped trying to force your way into every aspect of normal people's lives and started acting rationally you'd be more welcome.
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>>25495 I want you to stop and think, about 6 months from now, when we're still doing this dumb song and dance of yours, what will you have personally gained?
>>25496 Lol. Good lucking getting through to the retards on here. They're like the folks who put shout outs to their favorite sports teams in their obituaries. Except 1000% more sad cause nobody's gonna remember their bullshit on a chan but a sports team might actually give a shit about a fan of theirs.
should be an auto hid on threads that get this trashy, could let these idiots go on forever an leave the rest of us in peace. troon hater would just start another thread thouugh
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>>25496 It's not like small, miniscule corpos like Anheuser-Busch, Maybelline are using transtrenders in their commercials all the time But most of all, here you are on a niche chan board about people who like to piss and shit themselves for fun making sure everyone knows you're a troon that's loud and proud answering a question nobody fucking asked. >>25496 >I want you to stop and think, about 6 months from now, when we're still doing this dumb song and dance of yours, what will you have personally gained? Nobody wins on this board except a well earned contribution to the cringe thread.
There are far more important issues to be worrying about right now. The tranny stuff (and the rest of the bombastic trivia), is rhetoric for the masses. There to keep you thinking about the banks, petrodollars, Social Credit, WW3, etc. The new world prison system is being erected around us at this very moment. Now, it's far far too late to do much about this... but you needn't waste the time we have left ripping each other apart over issues given to us for that purpose.
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>>25501 >Now, it's far far too late to do much about this... but you needn't waste the time we have left ripping each other apart over issues given to us for that purpose. The problem is troon faggots like OP that just can't shut the fuck up about their politics and keep it to in-depth discussions about wanting a strict Mommy put us into diapers or whatever. ABDL is supposed to be an escape from the real world. Troons crying oppression when literally every major Fortune 500 corpo supports them fully on a diaper board is how fucking retarded and selfish these faux women are. >There to keep you thinking about the banks, petrodollars, Social Credit, WW3, etc. The new world prison system is being erected around us at this very moment. Correct. There's nothing we can do about it either, 3 years of gaslighting the population into locking down over the flu showed far too well how fucked we are about stopping any of that shit from happening. Like I said earlier, ABDL is meant to be an escape from all that shit.
Love is the engine of survival. I don't like the man either, but he was right. He was speaking honestly. Collective passive resistance is our only hope. We can not out-violence TPTB. But we can Gandhi them into submission. And TPTB know this, so they divide divide divide... Mindfuck the masses.
>>25487 no, you do. dont project your stupid bullshit on others. i personally hope all the racist, homophobic, pedos on this website vile and hope they die
>>25490 read the bible again and learn some history. the change in the bible to be against homosexuality was a change by the catholic church to protect themselves because they had rampant pedophilla issues
>>25495 have you tried stop being a snowflake and moving on when you see it. do you see ads on mcdonalds and shout "KILL ALL THE DONALDS THEY BE PUSHING THEIR FRY POPUGANU!"
>>25500 imagine thinking your degeneracy that effects nobody but yourself validifies your hatred of others to project. there is no fucking way you brainlets even passes high school without cheating. you dig your own grave
>>25504 the only people crying are people like you. seriously. every trans person I have met just wants to be left alone. you let the right wing media whip you in a panic and then act like its the left. you are lost in the sauce
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>>25512 Yeah, y'all just want to be left alone and to show your dicks to all the real women in changing rooms. And when they complain that you have a dick in a woman's space they're the insensitive ones who can't just leave you alone right?
>>25512 >the only people crying are people like you. seriously. every trans person I have met just wants to be left alone. Left alone,.
>>25513 Shooting up schools and raping children in church is cool tho right? (which unlike your example actually happens daily from white male christian weirdos) Please do yourself a favor and just hang yourself, you parents would appreciate it you are a waste of energy. From what I can tell incel suicides seem to be increasing so please join that statistic
>>25515 >Shooting up schools >actually happens daily from white male christian weirdos Yeah, it's not like rich white troons shoot up schools or anything!
>>25516 Have you looked up the percentage of trans shooters? No? Just going to use the one person who was? Also im like 100% sure they were christian. Seems like there is a common denominator. Might be a hard one for you to understand though as it would require you to understand math. Oh, and a fun bonus to all the weirdos in here that are not virgins (so maybe like three of you) and fit this thread. I found a video of someone decribing your future. https://www.tiktok.com/@freshcoralblast/video/7233996654117014830?lang=en Fun bonus points for replacing your child being trans to whatever conditional bullshit you hate your parents for and are going to force on your children through hatred~ Enjoy your miserable future!
>>25515 Yeah, don't look at Vermont where all the women had to use a single-stall bathroom to change because they didn't want to have a male in their locker room changing with them. Or Oklahoma where a transgender student assaulted 2 actual women because of the bathroom. Or California where the trans student assaulted 2 other real women over the same thing. Or forcing middle schoolers to share a bathroom with trans students. That's what everyone wants, their children to be forced to change and share bathrooms with the opposite sex while going through puberty. The list just goes on and on of trans students causing violence and forcing others to cater to them and their delusions. But trans people just want to be left alone and are all about love. All the violence is AGAINST them, right? >>25518 I teach my children that it's not what is between your legs that makes you happy. It's becoming happy with yourself and who you were born as. Not to base your whole existence on sex or what others are doing. You don't always have to agree with the current thing, it's best to think for yourself. I'd prefer and thank god if they came out as gay or bi like their father instead of wanting to blindly follow the media and lop off their member or believe they could become a poor caricature of the other sex. (fun fact, having a sex change doesn't actually make you a member of the opposite sex, you just mutilated yourself for no reason.)
>>25521 Let's also not forget the myriad stories of transactivist attacking peaceful protestors or getting up in their face screaming while they're attempting to have an interview. Plus these animals attacking Riley Gaines because she didn't want to change in front of and swim against a man.
>>25521 i wasnt talking to you, you are clearly a virgin. please take a look to the first line about how you need to kill yourself. you are just mad that people are saving someone you dont like reducing their suicides. they dont change anything most people have never even met one they are such a low percentage of the population. incel violence and suicide by cop is skyrocketing, eventually leading into yall mofos getting decimated by reduced coorporate interests in states doing this shit which will lead to brexit like result of your states getting absolutely decimated into smitherines. they also may not even receive funding for national storms because of it and its hilarious.yall gonna burn in hell for real though
>>25526 >accusing someone of being a virgin as an insult yikes you really are getting desperate for those puberty blockers uh? what is it? are you growing hair already? facial structure becoming more masculine? is your woman transformation fetish becoming a fleeting thing as every day goes by? sorry dude, its just not gonna happen.
This is very sad that this thread is one of the most active right now. Can’t we just burn it down with fire and post diapers?
>>25530 NO everyone has to be hateful and angry ALL THE TIME, having just ONE small place on the internet where just post stuff you like is NOT ALLOWED
>>25530 Would have deleted within a week under the previous BO along with any obvious reddit tier threads/post.
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Ioo how cute, you guys have a pet name for suicide by hanging. Roping. 🤣
>>25536 >>25537 >>25539 How does this have anything to do with ABDL? Please kys
>>25541 This thread is about trannies trying to hurt ABDL, my post is meant to show trannies ruin everything because they are retarded narcissists. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk.
>>25541 Encouraging people to commit sudoku is is bigoted and ableist.
>>25542 I'd say they ruined your head to, but let's be honest, you were only using it to keep rain out of your neck.
>>25528 Given how retarded you are, yeah. Sex with you is statutory rape.
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>>25545 My favorite part of this thread is when you accuse people of personal attacks, you try to make a personal attack right back. I'll even award some bonus points for using boomer-speak for your comebacks.
>>25548 Object permanency must have been a big hurdle for you if you still can't see there's multiple people who don't agree with the anti-trans bullshit you've been spewing. Kys
>>25548 its like your own language of "dumbass-ry" you are a lunatic and this pushback is wonderful considering where we are. can you imagine what its like anywhere else? yall are pathetic losers who focus on others cause your life is depressing as fuck
"U mad bro?" Is making a comeback at the best possible time.
>>25531 >>25532 At this point we'll have a second thread at any time. I've worked with trannies three times now. Every time they were useless at doing anything. And still, I had to call what was clearly a man wearing makeup and woman's clothes, a <woman>. So I can see why people are against them. It's showing they are clearly wrong in the head. By giving them continuous encouragement and enabling them, we just guide them into a path that brings no happiness. Even the slight mention of trans people, trans ideology and trans politics, trans-forms the appeal of the conversation to the equivalent of being trapped in a septic tank. You can only dream so much until you start to wake up.
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>>25558 Sure sweetheart.
>>25558 more projection about how miserable you are, do you get tired of it? you just want others to be as unhappy are you are and are sad they arnt and are living happy lives. does it upset you that people like you have had progressively worse lives since people have started policing culture resulting in increasing suicide and lonelyness? now does it upset you even more that LGBTQ+ individuals are prospering? Almost every statistic in those groups have been improving expodentially and its awesome! hopefully we can eradicate your type eventually
>>25563 >now does it upset you even more that LGBTQ+ individuals are prospering? wow hold on. I'm bisexual myself, and I was just talking about trannies. I can understand you liking women, men or both. But I cannot accept you trying to be something you're not. Like dressing your car like a boat and attempting to sail. >hopefully we can eradicate your type eventually the kind of people that think? I hope not
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>>25564 My sweet sweet retarded child, nobody is under any illusion that you are who you say you are. I invite everyone who's even bothering to watch this thread to look at who's been consistently using green-text responses. You can stop pretending. God this is sad.
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>>25564 its okay to admit that you are too stupid to understand any slightly complex. it is quite hilarious that you think what you are describing is thinking and not a low high school understanding of fairly simple ideas
>>25569 I know right? Can you imagine someone not being able to understand something as simple as biology and thinking they're capable of changing what they were born as? Education is really something. >>25566 >nobody is under any illusion that you are who you say you are >You can stop pretending. Yes, join the rest of us in reality.
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>>25572 Biology? The thing that has gender dimorphism? Where portions of the brain very based on hormones and genetics? Where portions of the brain that map between the sexes are correlated to trans people's gender? That biology?. In a world with Klinefelter's, Swyer's, De La Chappeles, Intersex, AIS, the primitive brain dead idea that sexes are a strict dichotomy is as laughable as your performance in this thread. God this just keeps getting sadder.
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>>25574 Yes, biology, that determines if you were born a male or female. Biology doesn't give a fuck if you have a mental illness and "feel": a certain way. You're still born being one or the other. People with all those disorders are born either male or female. Trying to change that won't make you happy, it will certainly cause even more problems when you find out that changing how you look on the outside doesn't help the way you feel on the inside. If you're unhappy, go to therapy and work through your issues. Trying to physically mutilate yourself is not the answer.
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>>25577 I'll take the AMA and the APA's evidence based guidelines over your opinion. Have fun stalking this thread on a Friday night like a loser, I'm going out for some fun.
>>25572 No considering im going to school to be a doctor im actually well aware of the biology unlike you. if there was no medical basis for trans individuals the treatment wouldnt be the way it is. there is clear medical evidence and its just laughable to consider past knowledge as current. if you really want to go down that route please stick to traditional medicine and stop going to hospitals as the world would be sooooo much better off if you died
>>25580 >>25581 Ah yes, the studies that were done by the same people who came up with these "facts" right? https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked Just because someone panders to your delusions doesn't make them science or facts.
>>25582 no real medical studies, here is one. not that you are arguing in sound reasoning and will even look at it. thousands of medical studies. the margin of medical data is there you just prefer to live in a fantasy world https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/#:~:text=The%20observed%20shift%20away%20from,for%20a%20female%20gender%20identity.
Surprised this thread is still being bumped. Kind of funny and sad. >>25504 Sad, but true unfortunately. >>25497 >They're like the folks who put shout outs to their favorite sports teams in their obituaries. Except 1000% more sad cause nobody's gonna remember their bullshit on a chan but a sports team might actually give a shit about a fan of theirs. I don't understand how that's any worse than people who put their pronouns and political affiliations on their social media. >>25581 That's just appeal to authority. Same thing happened with lobotomies. Just because "educated" people support it does not make it right to do. There's a lot of that in modern politics in general of "I know this and it is right because someone else said it is right." or "Trust the science". George Orwell's article on modern credulity seems relevant. I'm not denying statistics and research can't be useful, but a lot of people seem to use it as a drunk uses a lamp post. There's also the fact that psychology has been abused or been wrong in the past and present like the use of involuntary commitment to deal with poltical dissidents or the manufacturing of false memories or the aforementioned lobotomies. Transgender as it exists now seems little different. Also... kind of weird for a medical student to have bad grammar and punctuation. If you are that intelligent and educated... why are you arguing with people on a fetish board about this? You don't have better things to do? If true, seems like you would be the sort of doctor to deny treatment based entirely on someone not being of a religion or poltical viewpoint you agree with if you're here.
>>25587 your illogical leaps in comparison do nothing but show how insane you are by itself. you can say whatever you want but you just seem like a moron to basically everyone with higher education. this isnt just psychology. we are talking neurology and endocrinology with a method and peer reviewal that is the basis of all morden medicine speaking of, im not writting a paper here lol... im on a fucking diaper forum why would I be using grammar like that?? sometimes on my phone bc who gives af. so many silly points that do nothing but make you look like a fool. bringing up books that you read in highschool as a flex? you wernt even in the smart class or else you would have red much more impressive books you have offically ran out of anything worth talking about for the fifth time so probs just gonna bump off; its very true what they say "never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience"
>>25586 >>25588 Might take the "doctor" more seriously if he wasn't posting like the common social media retard that thinks his opinions are important. Also it's funny you feel you have something to prove here if you are so much better than your fellow anons. If you consider the discussion pointless and everyone who disagrees with you a moron why are you here? This just seems like weird narcissism, but I shouldn't be surprised at this point given how many people on the web act like this. There's some reasonable and well thought out posts here, but yours are not among them. I'm honestly enjoying this dumpster fire of a thread solely for the loonies it attracts, but part of my reason for posting is so it can hit the bump limit and finally be forgotten. Also, why do so many people use "I'm typing this on a phone" as an excuse to type out semi-incoherent posts full of spelling and grammar errors. I'm typing on a phone and manage to be more coherent than the "doctor".
>>25589 double linked like a rager
As >>25074 >>25076 put it: "K." This is post 325 for the thread. You idiots have 175 more posts before this is permanently saged. Have fun with that.
>>25591 >This is post 325 for the thread. You idiots have 175 more posts before this is permanently saged. Have fun with that. Isn't that a good thing? The quicker this gets saged, the better for us all.
>>25592 Exactly my point. That is a good thing. Sorry if that didn't come off correctly. I was being dismissive and pointing out the thread has less than half its posts left. This thread will sink and be forgotten regardless of good or bad points made. And this is post 327. 173 to go.
>>25617 Funny to me how that animal says because of all the media and history books, all white people have been conditioned to be racist. But that same retard will turn around and say putting gay and trans propaganda all over TV, having drag queens read to kids and visit the schools, putting gay flags and talking about gender in schools, and in the rest of the media is fine and doesn't influence anyone.
>>25617 Source: podcasters who rather attack the people they interview then actually learn about the person Fuck sakes i interviewed the director of kung fu panda and learnt more awesome shit then these dumb podcasters ever will
>>25621 Because being gay is innate while being racist is not you fucking faggot.
>>25629 Have you met children? Enough brain washing and you can convince/teach them anything. Just look at all the kids who swear they're the opposite sex, and then look at their parents. the parents are always super liberals usually with colored hair, that are in same sex marriages or trans themselves. You know the child didn't make the decision on their own, it was the parents and school forcing it on the child.
Loving all these armchair scientists in this thread instead of.... literally all the actual scientists who study biology. Biology is never, and will never, be black and white. From an actual scientist: Everyone is female in the womb. That is why men also have nipples. Even women can be XY and men XX, specifically due to the SRY gene being what triggers the development of the penis. It is possible that the SRY gene flags in either XX or XY. Then there are hormone receptors, brain development, and more. People can taste colors, or hear words. Bodies arnt simple. They are complex af. People have depression, psychopathic behaviors, autism, PCOS (testosterone produced in women to cause hair growth and masculine features), hermaphrodites, etc. The list is endless. Trans people are just that: trans. Often having an activated SRY gene (regardless of XX or XY), but have female hormone receptors, brains, and more causing dysphoria because their bodies are literally rejecting the feeling of testosterone. If i started pumping estrogen into every guy here, you'd feel like absolute shit too. Everyone likes to bring up the guy who coined the term gender identity because he was a monster who literally practiced on children and raised a boy as a girl. Oh, look, the kid knew something was wrong his whole life and realized what had been done to him and turned back to a male later in life, then killed himself because of the trauma and abuse. It literally proves that even if you force a male to be a female against their will, they know something is wrong internally. This is why the vast majority of alt-right individuals scream "but they men tho!" despite never having gone past biology 101 and refuse to listen to.... actual scientists. Then they scream "fake news! theyre paid by the jews to say that! conspiracy!" because the vast majority of people are dumb as absolute fuck. Pick up a book you retards.
>>25637 Finally,someone sane in this thread. Thank you.
>>25637 Problem we seen now is the bad takes over the legit good Like trans people who live to have good lifes,find love and very nicey educate people who wanna learn But the bad people sadly give trans a bad image From parents forcing their own kids to be tran cause "my son loves barbie" to youtubers like blair white who despite being trans hate on other trans who often done nothing wrong (except the creeps who yes should be called out no matter if they are on the lgbt spectrum or not) I've seen people in lgbt who no joke defend them people who honestly give LGBT the bad image Just like how abdl people defend pamperchu and not support people like the diaper youtuber blondie (the one known for posing in squeaky latex Inflatable white diaper with the frills) We need to make sure we are backing the right people Like mlk jr said is about the judgement of your character not your body And if your defending people like that trans shooter and not people who mentally struggle with there own identity and arn't sure if transition is the correct way or find alternative way to express themselves Then you yourself shouldn't ever be called a trans supporter Is like saying you support germany.....but not the current version but nazi germany Your not really a geman supporter
>>25637 Yes, those rare outliers. So explain how all of a sudden we have a huge jump in these cases and the people with hormone imbalances that dont feel the need to mutilate themselves. And what of the people who identify as mythical beings and neither gender? And those that change their gender whenever it suits them?
>>25637 Good take. Except this doesn't explain "gender exploration" people do, outside of binary and possible spectrum inbetween. Neither does it explain the "trans-egg" trend where alphabet men get convinced they're trans for being submissive or sitting down for a piss, while alphabet women are pushed past tomboy, into cuntboy. I don't know what other loonies on this thread advocate for or against, but i`m sure majority doesn't care if some dude decides he's a girl, shaves his beard and dons a dress. As long as he/she/they is as respectful as every other person is - nobody cares if they're r*ddlt mod level hideous, or femboy level beautiful (outside of porn, obviously) What everyone IS against is these bearded 40 year old beer dragons not doing shit, but demanding you call them by "wondethey/wonderthem". Tugging whole generation of confused tiktok-brainwashed young adults down with wonderthem. Demanding public coverage of wondertheir persona, organizing public children's events and shit like that. It's a delusional public performer that deems achievements of others inconsequential in face of their gender discoveries that this thread fucking hates. One that deems preferences offensive, personal opinions - repulsive, and personal space - nonexistent, if it isn't their own.
>>25637 Source? Apparently you don't need medical justification to be a tranny now.
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>>25649 Imagine, asking for evidence while this whole thread crying that evidence and authorities don't count. >>25587 "Appeal to authority" Y'all want to operate without evidence and authorities in this thread because you're oh so smart, and yet too retarded to have heard the phrase "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
>>25642 >>25648 Yeah, most people don't really care about some tranny claiming to be the opposite sex if they're otherwise respectful and not being preachy, come off as gaslighting, or deliberately looking for perceived offenses to reeee over. People hate trannies because of the Alphabet nut jobs and sexual creeps not the reasonable people just trying to live their lives. Unfortunately what the mainstream LGBT movement has become is mostly about the nut jobs and creeps. We're at a point where people are seriously defending the actions of a mass shooter who killed children and sex offenders (even a literal autistic motherfucker) because of them claiming to be trans. We have confused kids and teenagers being groomed to sterilize and mutilate themselves. We even have actual pedophiles (so called MAPs) trying to be part of the LGBTWTFBBQ movement and people not immediately pushing back on that. A lot of people hate this because of the obvious insanity and the fact that trying to publicly criticize it gets you labeled as a"TERF" or "Transphobe" with the possibility of getting deplatformed, fired, and harassed. >>25654 Because it mostly doesn't on a topic that is inherently subjective. People literally say "if you feel like x then you're x." regardless of the obvious physical contradicting it. Identity is not a purely subjective thing that can be changed on a whim and language is just a descriptor. Modern identity politics insists it is though while making the mistake of confusing the map with the territory so why should we take it as any kind of truth? Oh and this is post 342. 158 to go.
>>25637 >Trans people are just that: trans. Often having an activated SRY gene (regardless of XX or XY), but have female hormone receptors, brains ugh my female liver is making me grow tits but wait, are you telling me that trannies are literally horny mutants we must destroy to prevent the extinction of the human race???
>>25178 This image is a total self-own, btw. It's logical form is ~(p v ~p). You're contradicting yourself either way, that's what happens when you try to make mock both a proposition and its negation: you're only mocking yourself. Either that or it's just a case of special pleading where "Bush was to blame for gas prices then* b-b-but Biden isn't now!!!!" We both know it's the latter. * even thought we also really really want to score points by giving credit to Obama for lowering them after Bush's administration but not Trump going one further after Obama, In other words, only republicans can be held accountable for rising gas prices and only Democrats can be credited with lowering them. Because that's how rational, reasonable, well-adjusted, blue-haired people think ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>25669 Is same with fat people Now I'm a chubby chaser I don't mind fat furs with that sexy ass and huge bellys But irl i don't mind a woman with a minor bump and that's it But you can't act like being fat is same as lgbt Sure there are medical reasons why people can't lose weight, weight effects you and YES there is negative problems with fat,same with being trans,gay, stright everything hhas a negative but just cause your fat don't mean you can cry victim Same as trans aren't automatically victim by the word GO Seriously reminds me of this one person in abdl He is mixed race and he told me his friend was beaten by racists which makes his friend a obvious victim But his logic is "my friend was a victim of racism I'm clearly the victim when it never happened to be"
>>25671 .....sorry from that qoute Is anon imply being born trans like being born gay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvQh48_1PoI My victim status trumps your basic human rights.
>>25697 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dplDHe1T_aI If more "trans" people were like this I wouldn't have any problem with it. These people are what I thought initially were trans people. I have no problem with these people, it was really starting to get to me because I've never felt hatred towards a community as I have for the "trans" community. But when all you see are these lunatics and virtue signalers and people who don't try at all to be the gender they "feel" they are and the ones who try to push it on children it's very easy to lump them all into that box. It's really the self-diagnosed bullshitters I have a problem with. Much like how this new generation was faking mental disorders they also gravitated to manufacturing this disorder as well. Actual trans people need to stand up and denounce these clout chasers and phonies. Maybe then they'd be able to get more people on board with what they want.
>>25644 TRANS PEOPLE ARE LESS THAN 1% OF THE POPULATION YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD. Trans people ARE THE OUTLIERS. You THINK this is a surge, when it's not. You listen to echo chamber nonsense who are SPECIFICALLY TARGETING TRANS PEOPLE every day. You do remember fox news saying trans women were buying out all the tampons in America, right? Trans people aren't new, they're the new scapegoat just like gays were in the fucking 60s. Holy fuck. The number of trans people has not been increasing. It's been steady as it always has. Get out of your fucking echo chamber, go outside, and touch grass. The internet and news you select, and cherry picked images of masculine trans people: IS NOT REAL LIFE.
>>25671 We are ALL mutants you fucking twit. Every single one of us has a merging of new DNA complete with randomly activated gene markers. That's how natural selection fucking works. Sphinx cats exist today because of random mutations. You have random mutations too. Everyone does. Some are more present than others. Don't use armchair science to try and defend your retarded position, just say you hate trans people and move the fuck on.
>>25708 I hate trans "people".
>>25709 Great,can we burn this thread with fire now,and get back to diapers?
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>>25709 I don't think anyone here actually hates trans people. They hate the movement and colored-haired freaks that claim to be trans. Much like how people just hated the BLM movement more than they hated black people in general. People have hijacked something that was sensible and for a good cause and turned it into something twisted and legit insane. Nobody here can tell me they actually hate Dr. Frank-N-Furter
>>25726 There is no movement you faggot. There are some unemployed people on twitter amplifying some retards views from 10 years ago to feel morally superior and then some child diddlers on national TV complaining the gays are going to take all their young virgin penises away. It's all manufactured drama to let rich people fuck us while like <1% of tranny freaks quietly die inside every day just to flip your burgers for some flat ugly tits. No one cares about them, and shouldn't care about them because they don't matter at all. A fucking rounding error in the human genome.
>>25734 i mean, he's right there's a movement, and you're right that's it's manufactured by the rich. you don't need to direct your anger at him, though i agree with being angry.
>>25734 Hahaha look at this guy. He doesn't even know he was already abducted and put into the Bostrom simulation by the Extrinsic Archon Sasquatch Collective.
When I was doing munches, I always found it easier to use fake pronouns with sissies (admitted fetishists). Then the lifestyle AGPers started showing up bringing politics into a kinky meet-up, and naturally started splitting the group up until it was no longer a fun kinky meet-up, just a fucking hugbox for weirdos. Thanks trannies, I let you exist and you used your existence to alter my fun/comfortable space. Keep on existing I guess.
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>>25708 See: row 2
>>25834 Trans myself and watched groups die out to other trans causing unnecessary issues. I feel its more than just the trans aspect and that there was a growing issue with how people act socially. Toxicity and loss of common sense grew in certain online communities and those spilled over into the rest of the internet and then real life because of social media.
>>26067 This is why i never understand some queer people For example the gender argument now my understanding is Sex is biological and gender is your title But i had people mock me cause gender is sex I have a friend who trans and i explained it and she agreed with my understanding especially when she actually willing to help me understand and not mocked me I had queers who instead of kindly explain the genders, pansexuals etc they think calling me names and mocking me is helpful and yet they same people who would rather defend the queer villan cause they are queer instead of queers who are legit victims Is why i wish people in any community call out the bad cunts If abdl community is willing to kick out and call out abdl creeps why can't queers do that in there own community
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>>26078 Why don't white people call out the shitty white people? Why don't black people call out the shitty black people? Why don't goth people call out shitty goths? There's no designated spokesperson for every fucking large ass group of people that exists and no microphone for them to use. Spend more time in the LGBT community and you'll see what you're talking about. It happens all the damn time. RuPaul, Caitlynn Jenner, Lil Nas for just about any dumb thing you can think of. And if people are giving you shit, well, I'll tell you right now, it's cause you sound like the rest of the troll ass comments in this thread pretending that one person represents a whole group then crying about getting called out on it. I shouldn't have to explain these things to you, you should know them by now as an adult. Frankly, I'm not even responding to you here cause I do think you're the same twat troll, but for the benefit of every other person here who's not denser than a neutron star. Groups are not people, and people are not groups. You can't have any large group without having shit people in it. You have 10k people in a group, you can almost guarantee there's gonna be at least one fucking pedo in it. Statistics 101. Think I'm rude? Welcome to 8chan. Fuck your feelings.
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>>26080 > Think I'm rude? Welcome to 8chan. Fuck your feelings. Lol watch out everyone, internet badass over here.
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>>26083 Really, not even a thank you for responding to your troll bullshit for the first time in a week? How rude anon.
>>26084 > EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS ONE PERSON! Delusions of persecution by imaginary entities is the hallmark of paranoid schizophrenia, anon.
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>>26088 I mean, okay, fine. If it's two or more trolls trying to keep this on the front page, all power to you, that just makes the job you're doing all the shittier.
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Partially related to thread topic, but I hope they stop mutilating intersex people at birth. The only reason I'm here is because my hack fraud surgeon decided I needed a peehole remodeling when I was six and now I'm incontinent. Post enby diaper art.
>>26080 But what i mean is there are people who think just cause you lgbt or certain race You can't do bad And I don't believe everyone is automatically bad cause they are a certain sex or race but for your actions Also i don't act like a troll to the people mocking me cause I don't understand stuff in queers I do like to learn about people even individuals like if someone pan i might ask what's the difference and they very kindly explain Is just the experience when asking some trans people the people i asked act defensive as if i just went "ey up trannys did you onow the 12% suicide rates" when all i might ask "so you Trans are you just dressed the opposite sex or you domthe surgery" as I'm just a curious lad who likes tog et to know the individual If your not willing to let people learn about you they might not know or misunder then why should they care about you Especially when queer is more popular compare to the past and people might be out of touch
>>26078 There are people that call them out and say "Woah, we don't agree with this person and here's why" But if you talk bad about any of these "activists" You get labeled transphobic, terf, and anything else they can come up with...same with blacks, if blacks say anything that goes against the pushed agenda then you're an uncle tom and race traitor. Look at Buck Angel, Marcus Dib, Blair White, and Thai Rivera. They push back and get attacked regularly for it. You can also look at how the community treats those who try to detransition and keep people from harming kids like Jazz Jennings.
>>26116 Ok tbh Blair white is a nutcase trans or not She the same person who sees any drag and thinks "i bet he a pedofile"
>>26120 >She the same person who sees any drag and thinks "i bet he a pedofile" Like any decent person would. Keep that shit to your bedroom, shut the fuck up and enjoy one more post towards auto-sage.
>>26123 hey anon you are a gross stinky diaper faggot and your proclivities are just as, and to many people way more gross and pedophilic as any gender stuff
>>26098 Sad thing is troons just use intersex people as an excuse to continue sexual "surgeries" that end in Mutilation.


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