First look at live action Hiccup Horrendous Haddock & the leaked teaser trailer. Two things of note. First being obviously it's just a repeat of the first movie. Second is that they're hiding the supporting cast. Because they made Astrid black.

>>42136 >Creature Commandos The trailer looked interesting. >>42140 Seriously? HTTYD is not that old. How desperate are these companies for money?

>>42141 I wish it wasn't just Suicide Squad again. Gotta milk a successful franchise. Especially after the cheaper sequel streaming show failed spectacularly. I don't see this succeeding either when the much better movies exist. Unlike Percy Jackson where the original movies aren't very good but then the Disney+ show isn't exactly faithful either. Still those fans are much more desperate.

>>42141 They're doing a live action Moana remake, and that's even newer.

When has any of these live action adaptations actually broke bank?

>>42144 Aladdin & Lion King.

>>42144 Jungle Book. That's why they're doing all of them. >>42146 Didn't everyone hate Aladdin? There are also tons of other ones people forgot about entirely, like Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, and even Pete's Dragon. Also, they did a live action Jungle Book in 1994 that I remember liking at the time, but nobody remembers that one, either.

>>42140 >Because they made Astrid black. Nico Parker is a mutt but anyway the live-action cast stink like crony mangling. Tuffnut will be cast by a fat woman. Now I want fat woman on a dragon jokes >>42147 >>42146 I don't think those Disney films count they got caught doing cooking the book at the time.

>>42147 India loved Aladdin. >>42148 A mutt is still not white. Ruffnut is also a travesty for being fat when she's a sticc.

>>42147 >That's why they're doing all of them. I thought the reason they made these remakes was so they could push them to replace the originals on streaming, letting them pay significantly less royalties.

>>42150 Don't they all just go on Disney+ anyway? I assume Disney doesn't have to pay royalties to put a movie they made in 1939 on their own streaming service.

>>42136 Moon Girl or COON Girl getting shitcanned because of one character becoming a tranny and the whole matrix considering her as a living mistake will unintentionally be the funniest fucking thing conceived by Nigflix.

I was tired of capeshit back in 2006 when it was mostly comic books and cartoons. When will it die?

>>42154 There were tons of capeshit movies in 2006. Superman Returns and X-Men 3 were two major ones that year. If you look back to the rest of the decade before that, the trend was already huge. Two X-Men movies, two Spider-Man movies, a Punisher movie (not counting the '80s one since it was before this boom), a Hulk movie (again not counting those TV movies since they were before the boom), a Fantastic Four movie, Catwoman, Batman Begins, Daredevil, Elektra, and I'm sure more I'm forgetting. Also Blade, but casuals didn't even realize Blade was Marvel, and just saw it as a cool action vampire movie. And that Man-Thing movie, but I don't think casuals even realized that existed. The point is, I hate when people act like the current boom started with Iron Man. Iron Man was just one more superhero movie among many. Nerds thought it was cool when the second Hulk movie (which casuals figured was a sequel) had a cameo to establish a shared universe. (The Spider-Man tv show that tied into the movies already had Michael Clark Duncan Kingpin to establish it as a shared universe with Daredevil.) But really it wasn't until Thor and Captain America, characters casuals wouldn't care about on their own or due to their stars (no RDJ comeback star-power) that they had to market more on the shared universe and promise of the upcoming Avengers movie and people really started to care about the MCU as a thing. The superhero movie boom started way earlier. And of course there were the Batman movies in the '80s and '90s and Superman movies in the '70s and '80s, but I won't say they started massive superhero movie booms. They had their own influence, but not specifically for making superhero adaptations, or at least not as many. Batman might have influenced things like The Crow, The Phantom, The Saint, and The Spirit (the movies. I know several of these characters predate Batman), but that's not quite the same as X-Men obviously directly influencing Spider-Man, Daredevil, Punisher, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Iron Man, etc. >When will it die? It died after Endgame. Everything since is its rotting corpse. The HIV that was Captain Marvel became full-blown AIDS after Endgame.

>>42155 >It died after Endgame. Everything since is its rotting corpse. Come on anon, nobody gives a pig's shit about "when it died spiritually" cope, he's asking when it ENDS. No more movies being made. Finally actually dies and stops moving. Any less and it's still alive.

>>42157 Sony has someone actually made some money with Venom Last Dance despite the reviews & Kraven is on the way next. DC's rocky future is still up for debate. Marvel's on the way out with every flop. They can't survive on only occasional success like Deadpool & Wolverine.

>>42159 >>42157 The MCU is dying. Since Endgame there's been only a handful of movies that actually made money, most notably Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Deadpool & Wolverine, both of which don't really offer much room for exploitation. Even Venom they capped it off with this last one, since the Sony Marvel Universe got effectively kneecapped by the monumental flop that was Morbius. Now Disney has the same with the Marvels, so there's not much gas in the tank for capeshit. Which it had a near thirty year run, so I think it can finally die now.

>>42160 The Marvels didn't even make money. They all opened the door for the multiverse which is Marvel's plan with or without Kang.

This is supposed to be live action Astrid. See any BIG differences?

>>42161 I meant to compare the Marvels to Morbius, but I can see I didn’t do a good job at making the connection.

>>42164 It's funny that even Morbius for all it's failures has a place in the public consciousness The Marvels does not.

>>42163 She doesn't look nigger to me (judging by her hand), but maybe that's just the lighting. Still, long hair brunette instead of short blond hair is odd.

>>42167 She's a mulatto. But they didn't even go through the trouble of actually giving her straight hair or dyeing it.

>>42157 >nobody gives a pig's shit about "when it died spiritually" cope, he's asking when it ENDS. No more movies being made. Finally actually dies and stops moving. Any less and it's still alive. Oh. Then the answer is "never." Even if things slow down even further, do you really think it will go to a lower level than we had in the '80s and '90s? I'd argue the boom started with X-Men, but there were Superman and Batman movies in a long chain for over 20 years before that. And I mentioned other Batman-esque films in the '90s that I bet people complaining would lump in with capeshit. They're gonna keep making Ninja Turtles movies forever. Are they capeshit? They're not gonna stop making Batman movies ever. So long as that continues, will we say that the capeshit trend has never died?

>>42157 >>42179

>>42157 >>42179 >>42160 Frankly, I'd be happy with "no more cinematic universe movies" and a return to the disconnected paradigm we had up until the 2000s. That's my definition of "the death of capeshit".

>>42181 I think it's a shame, because the comics they're adapting make a lot of good stories out of the characters living in a shared world. But these adaptations have fucked up so many times. Then again, I suppose the problem isn't the shared universe, it's that the people making the movies/shows/whatever just suck and want to make bad adaptations on the purpose because they hate the originals because SJWs just want to destroy everything that existed before them. I don't think getting rid of the shared universe will actually make the adaptations any better. I wish I could see a good adaptation of Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I no longer have much hope for that. In fact, I no longer have much hope for any good superhero movies anymore.

>>42136 >from Creature Commandos Wow, Grandpa Max, what the fuck?

Well that Snow White trailer with those CGI dwarves sure is a hell of a thing.

>>42295 This is literally Peter Dinklage's fault.

>>42295 Yeah, awful.

>>42296 I thought it was the Willow guy who had ruined things for his fellow dwarves.

>>42301 No.

Creature Commandos lost me immediately.

>>42296 I would wager that the gnomes are at fault for this.

>>42306 >>42308 Well the gnomes are always behind everything in the shadows.

Just so everyone can have full context. Also this show is the start of the DCU & it's already confusing in how they needlessly complicate what's canon. At least versions of the events of Peacemaker somehow are if I'm understanding this correctly.

>>42310 Starting a new cinematic universe with a cartoon series most people will probably not watch, is not a good start.

>>42310 How many DC universes are there already. Isn't it already enough?

>>42313 A lot, just by going though the comics alone, but even with TV series there is more than plenty, especially if you want to count really old stuff like Atom Man vs Superman from the 1950s or the Fleischer cartoons. If we go for things post 2000 that was either on TV, Theater or Direct to DVD then we have: >Smallville >Arrowverse >Nolanverse >Sniderverse >The new one with Superman and Creature Commandos <I don't know where The Batman even exists as a universe <I guess Watchman is also a DC universe now >Green Lantern universe >Superman Returns <This is a sequel to the first two Superman movies, but not III and IV As for cartoons: >The Justice League Cartoon <This also includes past shows, like Batman and Superman TAS, Batman Beyond and so on >Batman Brave and Bold >Beware the Batman >Some Batman show I probably forgot about <Not sure where all the animated movies fit in, some of them being Else-Worlds like Soviet Superman >Green Lantern: The Animated Series >Teen Titans Go! Honorable mention: >Arkhamverse These being the Batman Arkham games that culminated with the Suicide Squad killing Batman controlled by Brainiac Oh and there was also the Flash movie, that made references to the 90s Batman movie, a cancelled Superman movie from the 2000s with the giant spider, and I am sure I forgot some stuff.

>Helluva Boss >see the design for Satan >Looks like a shitty OC done by a highschooler This is probably the case lmfao >Doesn't remotely look like what he should or what he could >Lucifer & Satan are two different entities The fuck is this gay bullshit? I only watched it for Loona/octavia but they kept focusing on the worst possible aspects; Goes to show anything tumblr makes is garbage. Hopefully after S2 of HH Vivian gets mauled by a bear & they cancel it all. Both shows are about muh fadda & go nowhere. I watched S1 to near completion but dropped it. Haven't given a shit, but I realize these "shows" are genuinely terrible lmao In case you haven't seen satan's design I'll save you the trouble it's a four eyed dragon in casual clothing with a jacket that looks like a letterman's jacket.

>>42385 Lucifer and satan being two entities originates in judaism or some other abrahamic religion, I think. So it's not her idea. But satan does look goofy, I get the dragon idea that's a common design used in apocalyptic art pieces. But really? A cowboy-punker? That's just stupidly cheesey like 1990s cheesey. Also based tasyes for liking octavia

Secret Level, those animations from Amazon are out. Not really worth watching to be honest. The 40k one will probably get a meme or two outta it but that's it.

>>42385 >Lucifer & Satan are two different entities >The fuck is this gay bullshit? First time? Vivzie is not respectful to nor knowledgeable of actual biblical text. Even the extra stuff she pulls from like Dante's Inferno or the Ars Goetia doesn't get proper treatment. She also broke her own lore & had to make an excuse for it.

>>42388 I thought that was the case in the old testament or at least it was the title of any entity (most likely a demon) donning the title to torment mankind.

>>42389 No, read the Enochian texts.

>>42389 It's not canonically clear. Lucifer comes from the word for morningstar that was referring to a king as an insult. It was adopted by Paradise Lost I believe as the devil's angelic name. Whereas Satan came from the hebrew word for adversary & noncanonical text like the book of Enoch saying the fallen angel's name was Satanael.

>>42391 No the enochian texts are canonical, the catholic church just didn't want people summoning demons. The coptic church never stopped using it, and it is from them that the text has survived til today, a partial copy found with the dead sea scrolls verifies its age, and the current content.

>>42392 The new testament book of Jude quotes from it directly also.

>>42392 No they're not canonical. Canon means being officially recognized & in the official bible. The book of Enoch is not. It just leaves out explanations for things like the flood & giants that are canon.

>>42394 But it is, just not the catholic church. You know theres other churches right?

>>42395 Yes there's other sects. That doesn't make it canon if one sect considers it. Catholics & protestants by & large don't. Most bibles will not include it.

>>42396 That still doesn't make it non canon, as you said that word has a meaning, and enoch fulfills it. Appealing to popularity is a argumental fallacy, you are reaching, instead of just admitting you are wrong. Why?

>>42397 The council that decided biblical canon did not approve. Modern biblical scholars do not approve it. That means it's not canon. You can choose to believe it's canon but OFFICIALLY it is not.

>>42398 Nicea? Uh, yeah they did. And some modern biblical scholars believe it is divinely inspired and canon. Again appealing to popularity is not how you argue, people agreeing with you doesn't make you correct. Facts do. And OFFICIALLY in the Coptic Orthodox Church (founded 42 AD) It is. Why you being weird about this dude? If your a believing Catholic, or one of its breakaway sects (Protestant) than you believe it is non canon. Thats a statement of faith based on the teachings of your specific denomination. Not a universal truth, representing it as a universal truth, is a fallacy. Do you understand? Cuz im losing my patience tbh bro

>>42399 Where are you getting that from? By your logic, when was it NOT considered canon after then? If you believe in the bible then you have to believe it as universal truth. And I have no idea where you get the idea it is or ever was considered largely canon. You're acting like a hipster who's going against the grain on what's "popular". Nowhere officially in most bibles nor major modern sects of Christianity is Enoch canon. If you want to tell me otherwise then by all means provide sources but to me right now it sounds like you're just coping for no reason.

>>42400 No, I am attempting to correct your bad theology, and in the process your logical fallacy when it comes to arguing. The Enochian texts are not considered CATHOLIC canon, and as such were repressed by that church somewhere around 1400ad exact date is hard to specify. You can say "these aren't catholic canon" and I wouldnt not argue with you, because that is a correct theological statement. However that is not what you said. As for sources, on what the existence of Churches besides the one in Rome? Yeah thats, ridiculously easy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church Enjoy I guess.

>>42401 They only recognized FIRST enoch dude. No one has ever considered second or third enoch to be canon. Stop busting peoples balls in a comic thread, and go back to your designated containment board >>>/fringe/

>>42401 >>42402 My brother in Christ this isn't a debate class. There is no argument. You just admitted the Enoch texts are not Catholic canon. The catholic church was established first. Ergo it is not canon text. There end of discussion. You're the only one being anal about this for no reason.

>>42403 Well the coptic church was founded in 42 AD, and Peter didn't claim to be pope until at best guess 56 AD. Soooo no, you're wrong.

>>42400 >Nowhere officially in most bibles nor major modern sects of Christianity is Enoch canon. Technically, not true. Enoch is considered canon according to the Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church. But nowhere else, that's it. Not according to the Protestants, the Catholics, the Orthodox, or any other denomination or communion. It's only those two specific sects that consider Enoch to be canon to the New Testament.

>>42403 Please ignore him, he's a schizo who's been trying to summon demons on /fringe/ for the past year. He's obsessed with Enoch. Do not engage, report to your local board owner. I'm sorry brother.

>>42405 Thats the best kind of true, technically true! >>42406 Nigger you're the first person I'm gonna curse when I figure out Solomon's uncorrupted pre-Renphan seal.

>>42407 Curses aren't real and you can't summon demons regardless of how "canon" your books are.

>>42409 Curses aren't real, but your faggotry is pretty real

>>42405 Canon to 2 small sects is not the same as wide Christian canon. It's like when people say "Oh this is canon because of this comic" even though it's an AU story.

I have nothing to add then this thing

>>42385 >muh fadda I don't know this newfangled slang. >>42386 >1990s cheesey. Sounds great compared to other modern shit. Helluvaboss has been okay so far to me. I think the last episode I saw was the one with the party maybe? It's been a while. Octavia a cute though. Too bad about Loona lusting after that nigger though. And of course, her syphilis.

>>42136 Beware my fellow comic fans, there's a wrongthinker on the loose: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bme5ltOS45s You'd be surprised the amount of numales shitting their pants in rage because the ginger straight out named the (((marxist))) instead of doing hoops and loops on what went wrong with DC and Marvel. >>42310 Fucking hell, if you didn't tell it was another shitty TimeWarner cartoon I would've assumed it was another million dollar original piece of shit with "subtle" leftwing ideals produced by Nigflix. Of course le ebil skeptics didn't bring up the question that'd make any dyke get their panties in a twist being: >If you're so feminist? Then build a house without the help of men and work yourself to death hauling heavy furniture

>>42391 According to the few guys who bothered to read the whole bible realized that the Devil or Lucifer are not real characters and the humanoid creature with horns is just an uncanny bible character, so far the closest thing to Satan is the talking snake and the guy convincing Christ into ditching humanity.

>>42298 >snow tan and the seven AI abominations I'm morbidly curious what they're going to do about the true love's kiss.

>>42549 I like how the guy making the reaction video is really upset but the closest thing to an argument he can come up with is "it's only race swaps, you can't have a DC movie without race swaps". >unpauses video he's reacting to >the first thing that plays is a quote from the show about privileged white assholes <starts backpedaling That made me kek

>>42577 And remember: You're a moron for falling in line under the good word of multiculturalism: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DaIux7Ab4vA This became the perfect example on how faggots can't argue for shit on why he's wrongthinking: >Ginger shouts the "retard" slur <Reactcuck responds with: That was stupid, u so stupid and racist Quite hilarious how the commentary section are bashing each other heads over the fact that capeshit has undeniable became printed propaganda whose editorials are sinking down in a downwards spiral.

Teaser trailer for James Gunn's Superman. Besides obviously Superman, we get to see Krypto, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Metamorpho, & Mr. Terrific. Lex Luthor obviously as well. And a kaiju that looks like a giant armored axolotl.

>>42136 >This is Jack Kirby's legacy, folks. 30+ years past his death and they still vandalize his greatest works. At the very least Stan met his punishment at the hands of his own daughter. How will the people responsible for the total mutilation of capeshit atone for their crimes? >inb4 collapse of american comics, animation, and media industries for AI As satisfying as it would be i feel they deserve worse than that.

>>42306 why anyone continues to give either DC or Marvel chances is beyond me. Mark my words Gunn's shared universe will be a disasterous dumpster fire that bombs on arrival, all signs point us in that direction already. also, fuck balak and bobbypills for their involvement in this mess

>>42163 i pray both this and the stitch remakes bomb legendarily and bring an immediate end to live action cartoon remakes in their entirety. anyone that supports either of these deserves to be disappointed.

>>42586 >See the hair Is the actor playing Clark a Kike? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Corenswet <His father, John Corenswet, was from a prominent Jewish family in New Orleans

This is from the new Superman movie trailer.

>>42612 One shot by Shaggy. F to a real one.

We need to destroy DC.

>>42590 Do any of you managed to obtain Stan Lee's blood signature comics?

>>42626 Who's more responsible for killing whatever's left of her dignity here? I'm guessing the writer's more to blame here, but that's because I've seen too many cases of women shoving in their shit fetishes where they don't belong.

>>42629 What if Harley got killed just to appease the necrophiliacs? Superhero comics to this day are still shoving fetishes, the current team being no exception.

>>42629 Whoever's in charge of DC themselves. It's not just WB mandating more Harley. DC has been doing it since New 52.

>>42627 not me but I'd love to hear from any anon who did. you have to love the karmic justice that led to stan getting his comeuppance at the hand of his greedy wine aunt spinster daughter

I'm sick of nerds complaining that "muh comic adaptations are afraid of being le wacky and cartoony" when Speed Racer did exactly that but everyone hated it and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

>>42689 Because it looked weird & could've just been fully CGI. There's zero reason to have real actors in an entirely CGI world.

>>42689 I rather just see more (good) animated capeshit projects embrace that side of things. At this point Im not a fan of any of the live action cape stuff that comes out, and I much preferred when the older adaption attempts would take some creative license in telling these stories.

>>42689 >when Speed Racer did exactly that but everyone hated it and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. Speed Racer is a great movie, when you cut out everything having to do with Spritle and Chim-Chim. Such as them acting out the bad TV show, or them terrorizing security at Royalton, or them even halting the climax of the movie for a "Cooties" warning. Cut those three segments out and the film is 10 times better. >>42690 >There's zero reason to have real actors in an entirely CGI world. Said by someone who has never watch Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow. >>42692 I feel like live-action capeshit films "peaked" with the original Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk films back in 2008, with the Rami Spoder-Man trilogy and the Nolan Batham trilogy fighting for a close second.

>>42695 No one's seen Sky Captain.

>>42695 > I feel like live-action capeshit films "peaked" with the original Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk films back in 2008, with the Rami Spoder-Man trilogy and the Nolan Batman trilogy fighting for a close second It's always up for debate when live action capeshit peaked. For me it was the double whammy of DOFP and Logan. The older I've become the more disillusioned I've grown with the MCU overall. That first Iron Man was a favorite of mine for years, but now that it carries the baggage of over a dozen shittier movies, I've come to resent it. Meanwhile the FoX-men and Jackman, for all their fumbles, managed to deliver a solid conclusion to their handle with their characters. Really we could have ended the series with DOFP and I would have been perfectly content. Logan almost acts like a desert following a great full course meal. The only other capeshit series to manage that was Raimi's Spiderman. Even Bale's Batman kind of struggled to stick the landing (and I say as much as one of the unironic few fans TDKR has). That said, there's alot of overlooked titles I still appreciate now. But part of me knows nothing will ever come close to those heights again. The only reason I kept routing for Sony's disaster of a non-spiderman cinematic universe was in the hopes that we could land a modern day sleeper hit in the vein of Blade. I could talk your ear off with the autistic ideas that have crossed my mind in the last few years as capeflicks became worse and worse.

>>42696 This. It's fallen into the same memory hole that consumed the likes of Billy Zane's Phantom, Beatty's Dick Tracy, Neeson's Darkman, and Baldwin's Shadow along with many others. They're all too niche to land with normalfag audiences who dont "get it". The 2000's was the last time we could have fun with alot of genre films like it.

>>42706 At least Darkman has minor relevance through Sam Raimi's name. People didn't appreciate Dick Tracy like they should've.