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unabomber manifesto scrybe 11/20/2021 (Sat) 12:11:29 No. 364 [Reply]
industrial society critique

The Screwtape Letters By C.S. Lewis Scribe 09/01/2021 (Wed) 18:25:53 No. 327 [Reply]
I have not read this book yet, but after reading this excerpt that defines /pol/ and political misanthropy in general, I just might. >This is an epistolary novel, written in the form of a series of letters. The letters are from Screwtape, a senior devil to Wormwood, who’s trying to tempt his human soul.
>>327 This looks pretty good OP. Let you know more later

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Challenger's Hope - David Feintuch - seafort saga Scribe 08/19/2021 (Thu) 05:56:44 No. 306 [Reply]
The second book in the series. Im including the 1995 hardcover book club edition art, because I have always liked it better. And it conveys Seafort's complete and total hatred for satans children. Which all xenos must be. So here we get to see probably the the second longest campaign waged against the fish in these books. It picks up more in the third, but here we really start to rack up the kills. And then disaster once more. With no way home, food and air running low. A crew made up of the worst offenders, and impressed colonists. Only two functional lasers. Stranded in deep. Awaiting the casual hand of death. Damn this is my favorite of the whole series. The only thing that can hold the ship together, and see anyone home alive is the Captain's fanatical discipline, and complete and totally unshakeable will. Highly recommended. You will have fun.
Two books in is a good time to talk about the cap'n. I am not entirely sure what the authors intent is for several scenes. Nick comes across as slightly deranged. It reminds me of zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. In that the author there was an asshole, and didn't know it. So his character's tend to do weird fucked up shit. Similar here, although the extenuating circumstances that Nick goes through could explain his behavior. I think we are supposed to be seeing a man on the edge of a nervous breakdown. When he is likeable it is despite his massive character flaws, or perhaps it is when he isn't concerned with trivialities. Very little Vax in this book. A shame as he is an interesting character in his own right, and is seen very little of in the third book. What these characters are feeling, or why they behave as they do is troubling to me. I don't know if its inconsistent writing or if David had a point. Or maybe he understood people better than me. If he did I wish I knew what exactly he knew about humanity.

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The Guns of Avalon - Roger Zelazny - Amber 2 Scribe 08/15/2021 (Sun) 01:43:25 No. 303 [Reply]
Ah Corwin, our beloved heroic protagonist, rightful King of Amber, and currently a blind prisoner in it's dungeons. Yeah somehow we start in worse place than the first book. But it ends with Corwin deciding this fantasy universe needs M-16s. Ignore the Darla parts as much as possible. She sucks.

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Kurt Vonnegut Scribe 08/10/2021 (Tue) 23:28:29 No. 294 [Reply]
I just finished Slaughterhouse-Five, this was my introduction to Vonnegut and it couldn't have left a better impression on me if it tried. I went into this completely blind and with little to no expectations but left pleasantly surprised. I would love to know what the fact that ending was supposed to convey exactly beyond "war bad". What should I read next?
>>294 He was anti-war for sure. Of the post world war 1 "oh the inhumanity of man" sort. He's good but that is the overarching theme hes getting at. I'd say offset it with something prowar. Like starship troopers. Not like the movie. Have you read zodiac by Neal Stephenson? He wasn't a cuck when he was starting out so the earlier stuff is good. If you want more vonnegut cat's cradle is popular. For more in the anti-war vein catch-22 is excellent.

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Stack/Shelf Thread Scribe 07/13/2021 (Tue) 22:06:06 No. 100 [Reply]
Feel free to share your book shelves and or stacks!
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Oh fine heres one of my current shelves.
I need to buy a new bookcase sometime and organize all of my stuff. Right now I'm using an old CD shelf for most of my smaller books while all my big ones are just sitting around in piles or in boxes I've got in my closet and downstairs. The problems is they're all different sizes, from pocket sized softcovers to massive hardcover anthologies so no matter what it's going to look a little messy.
>>291 Yeah, and the worst offender are trade paperbacks. Always some weird ass fucking dimension. Always look ugly. Hardcovers are more or less interchangeable as bottom shelf books and they look fine near the floor, but theres nothing you can do to a tpb to make it not look ugly.

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An exploration of metaphysical concepts in fiction: consensus reality Scribe 07/28/2021 (Wed) 11:12:19 No. 245 [Reply]
The idea of the nature of all aspects, laws, entities, and phenomena of reality (aka. absolutely everything and everyone in existence) re-writing itself to match with the majority agreement of all the minds of the universe as to what it should be (consciously or unconsciously). This premise is similar to "mage: the ascension" except that it really explores what this premise of the aggregate psychic influence of mental activity over reality itself would mean, it would not just mean changing of phenomena in the present, but in the past or future as well (like if enough minds believe the holohoax happened, then the evidence in the present would change to indicate a past where it did happen, and a time-traveler to this past would end up in an alternative universe where it had occurred as claimed, unless most minds in the present also believed most minds in this past believed that the holohaox wasn't happening, which would cause the time-traveler to show up in a past where it didn't happen, but from a present where the past was changed from the present to make the present as if it had occurred back then, because the past consensus would warp reality to make it so that the holohoax wasn't happening the moment the time-traveler arrived), it would be able to affect itself, like altering what realities people's mental power goes towards, or straight up creating or deleting people with minds that could contribute to determining what the aggregate consensus on reality is, and the strange idea of making an exception for one species, normal humans, as the sole contributors to the "vote" on what their reality is going to be like is rather arbitrary, what if all minds, including those of animals and even aliens, were to have a "vote"? last deviation is the idea of belief being the sole form of mental activity that contributes to the nature of reality, it might be the strongest kind of mental activity, but the mind has all sorts of mental phenomena going on, for example, imagination and fantasy or thought and emotion, if belief has an influence, surely these should as well? The setting is one where the existence of magic means that all minds can warp reality, any kind of mental activity exerts some level of influence upon the nature of existence. The degree of psychic ability that any mental activity has to alter the world depends on various factors, like how complex the mind is, how close the mind is to what it's affecting, the nature of the mental activity itself, the level of consciousness of the mental activity, the strength of that mental activity, and the duration the mental activity occurs over. The strongest kind of influence would be the most complex kind of mind believing with the greatest level of certainty and with the greatest force of will, at the most forefront of it's own consciousness, for the longest period of time, about some phenomena occupying the exact same space as itself, something usually describing the a priori knowledge of a mind about it's own existence. Since the mental activity of every mind exerts some degree of influence over the way things are, multiple minds can be in disagreement with one another, and even one mind can pull existence in multiple conflicting directions at once just by disagreeing with itself, reality can be pulled in multiple directions by the contradictions between the different potential realities that the actual reality is being pulled towards, in this case, the potential reality with the greatest amount of psychic power behind it is the one which becomes the actual reality. In the rare cases of ties, the nature of some phenomena may be equally disputed as being multiple possibilities that are equally backed by psychic power, and in addition to being supported by perfectly equal amounts of psychic energy, these possibilities are backed by more psychic energy than any other, in such cases, the ties are settled by going through the closest minds to the phenomena and whichever possibility being tied for gets the first bit of psychic power that breaks the tie in favor of one of the tied possibilities determines the nature of the contested phenomena, locality matters (also, most of these exceedingly rare events are resolved immediately without ever being noticed). Any aspect of reality can be affected by the influence of mental activity, including the minds of others and the mental activity produced by them, in such cases, the affected minds would influence reality in accordance with their new states, thus the consensus could theoretically affect itself. Since the consensus could create the existence of new minds, or remove existing minds from existence (such as the consensus causing the creation or erasure of people), and the presence or absence of those minds would include the presence or absence of their mental activity, those new minds that are created by the consensus would create a new contributution to it, and those existing minds which are deleted by the consensus would take their contribution with them, in both cases, this would only affect their contributions towards the consensus in the present and going forward, should there be changes made to their past existence by the consensus, their contributions to it in the altered past would only be observable to one who enters this past from the present after the consensus of the past had been retroactively altered, not just by the creation or erasure of minds that existed in the past, but also by the alteration of what way the minds that existed in the past had contributed to the consensus of their time (see below). The consensus can not only affect the present and future state of reality, but also it's past and future states, should the consensus influence the past to have been a certain way, all of reality would warp itself to be consistent with having come from that version of the past, should the consensus influence the future to be a certain way, the future would warp itself to fulfill this prediction. This makes time-travel more like stepping into another world entirely, as going back to a past that the consensus of the present had altered is not going back to the "true" past that existed pre-alteration. Furthermore, if the consensus on the present had altered the consensus of the past, that past consensus would not have any influence on the time-travelers reality before they went back in time, since their minds wouldn't be present to exert any influence on reality, but after doing so, the time-traveler is now in a world where the consensus is different, and therefore reality will warp itself to match with that new consensus, since the time-traveler's influence is going to be easily overpowered by the influence of the minds of everyone else in that version of the past, and if this consensus of the past was created by a consensus of the present, it's possibly a consensus that never created a reality before, thus the time-traveler is trapped in a brand new version of reality without precedent (whether they are aware of this or not). This is because only minds that are active in the present can contribute to determining the nature of reality at any point in time, a mind that has ceased to generate any activity or which has yet to begin doing so does not have it's contributions factored in to the state of reality at the time. A time-traveler going to the future would have the same experience, as the existing consensus of the future, which may or may not have been influenced by the consensus of the present, would overpower the time-traveler and leave them trapped in a reality that is produced by that future consensus, just as with the case of travel to the past, time-travel in this setting is potentially like stepping into an alternate reality, however, normally the time-traveler wouldn't notice since the differences between produced realities would not likely be readily noticeable. Still, history is no longer an exact science in such a setting.
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Ugh so it doesn't show individual results. Very well. And lets say it's a contested action, so no DC. 1d10 = 10 1d10 = 3 1d10 = 10
>>279 Holy fuck two auto success and two extra rerolls. 1d10 = 5 1d10 = 5
>>277 It's been a while since I read the mage core book but that sounds about right. Only as a PC you have a way to cheat a little. To bend temporarily that which is commonly believed into that which only you believe. The greater the disbelief such a thing would generate, or how hard it deviates from the norm of the collective unconsciousness, determines it's difficulty but also the danger. Any time a mage cheats reality in this fashion theres a possibility of failure, and reality snapping back to it's more or less true form. Often in very exciting ways. It is an interesting philosophical concept, but ultimately probably fruitless as it applies to the real world. I would encourage moderation if reading too much into it. And if you wanna play mage then I'm down.

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Midshipman's hope - Seafort Saga 1 - David Feintuch Scribe 07/30/2021 (Fri) 11:32:20 No. 271 [Reply]
I shouldn't make threads at this ungodly hour. I can barely see. Oh well Midshipman's Hope! We meet our fucked up asshole of a hero. First midshipman Nicholas Ewing Seafort. The man who pisses everyone in the galaxy off, I love him. Ah what a prick, that motherfucker. So the germ of this book was ole Davy saying to himself, what if a captain was incompetent, and worse everyone knew, and worst he knows hes incompetent and everyone knows. The plot needs him unable to resign so that's what the customs of his government, training, and religion give him. So there we are deep interstellar in a world that sees ships take years to reach colony worlds, and bang hes captain. Oh it gets good, and oh so bad. Anons David can't write a convincing woman to save his goddamn life. Which is probably why his chicks seem so real. Inscrutability can be a benefit. We also meet Vax Holser, Sandy Wilsky, and Alexi Tamarov. All semi interesting in their own idiosyncrasies. We get full scale mutinies, boarding actions, corridor firefights, drunken brawls, first contact ever and immediately afterwards aliens get blown to stardust. A yes. A strong christian government that brooks no heretical hellspawn or mutiny against Gods own government. Shit what we don't get in this first book we get in spades in the truly impactful sequel. You ever felt hunger pangs? Well prepare for Davy to give you PTSD. I defy you not to lose weight reading the sequel. Ah but we can plug that later. Anyway where was I. Can't remember. Post time.

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Fulgrim - Horus heresy 5 - Graham McNeill Scribe 07/30/2021 (Fri) 09:55:28 No. 269 [Reply]
Ah book 5. Here we are finally leaving Horus' shadow and narrative for a bit. Graham is pretty good, it's unfortunate that insane artists are only marginally interesting to me. So we see Fulgrim take the road to damnation. Demons in swords. Genes fucked up. And finally an orgy of death. Ah emperor's children. Always with the raping. Yeah this was kinda fun. Needed more ferrus manus.
>>269 Oh yeah theres a cool murder suicide thing. And a serial killer. I mean basic emps children shit basically. All involving remembrancer artists.

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Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Scribe 07/13/2021 (Tue) 04:43:07 No. 83 [Reply]
The book that is often referenced, but hardly ever read. The story is a first person narrative written from the perspective of Hubert Humphries, a paedophile. While the objects of his affection are older than most of the paramours pursued by Don Juan, or say Romeo, and God. Mr. Humphries is presented commonly as a terrible pedo out to corrupt innocent Lolita. This is far from the actual narrative of the novel. In the novel what we see are the real life foibles of a lover so young, and naive. When telling a child no means no more pussy it becomes harder, and so our protagonist is tempted into further bad ideas. In the end we see that the innocent, naive one was our very protagonist. All in all a good book. An interesting story that makes one really think about the subjects being discussed. 7/10 rather good.
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>>228 here's one lazily thrown together
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>>229 >lazily thrown together well it looks kino to me good shit
>>229 Oh shit yea. Hold on adding it

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Nine Princes in Amber - Roger Zelazny - Amber 1 Scribe 07/17/2021 (Sat) 03:21:23 No. 130 [Reply]
The first in the venerable Amber chronicles, and more importantly the first in the five book Corwin Cycle. We meet an Amnesiac. Bed ridden in some manner of hospital, and where this any other book it probably wouldn't go much further. But here our protagonist proves paranoia isn't necessarily wrong. Just insane. So he rips off his casts and sets a trap for the hospital staff. Soon we have moved from assault to blackmail at gunpoint. Then pockets flush, stolen .38 in hand, and no fucking idea who he is or how he got to upstate New York. Anons I love this series. Absolute favorite. It's fucking good. Highly recommend.

Novelization Thread Scribe 07/11/2021 (Sun) 07:28:17 No. 16 [Reply]
If it wasn't originally a novel. It is now. all things brought to wordy form FUCK OFF MODS THESE ARE BOOKS TOO
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>>30 Some of them can be okay. And plus for things like metal gear solid it provides an opportunity to flesh characters out more than its original media allowed.
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>>16 Is this novel actually a novelization of a previous story, or a new story just based on properties originally from other media? I know a lot of novels based on comic book characters, but only a few that actually attempt to adapt comic book stories into novel form. But then why would I want to read the novel version of The Crisis on Infinite Earths, when I could just read the actual comic it's based on? An odd case I've always been looking for a place to discuss is this Spider-Man novel, Mayhem in Manhattan. I think it was the first Marvel novel, or at least it was the first in this series. But the odd thing about it is that it's canon to the actual comics, and referenced in an actual issue, somewhere around Amazing Spider-Man #200, from the late '70s (I forget the exact issue, as it's been a few years). I remember I was slowly reading through all of Spider-Man (including the spinoffs, Spectacular Spider-Man and Marvel Team-Up, where Spidey teams up with someone else every issue), when suddenly in one issue Spidey references the fact that Doctor Octopus has died, and the editor's note, which usually lists an issue number, instead cited this novel. So I went on Ebay and Amazon and stuff, and couldn't find a copy for like a year, but eventually I found it, for a reasonable price, and it was actually pretty good. It's written by comics veterans Len Wein and Marv Wolfman, and everything I've read from them is great. It's nothing mindblowing, but their Spider-Man comics from the time were great, and this novel is additional material of the same quality. Doctor Octopus has some plan involving an oil company or something and Spidey goes on one of his more far-reaching adventures to stop him. A little more epic than the average issue of Amazing or Spectacular Spider-Man, where he generally fights more street level plots, but then again, he was going to space like every month in Marvel Team-Up, so this isn't that epic compared to those. I wonder if the rest of the Marvel Pocket Novel Series, of which this is the first (according to the back of the book), is canon to the comics. I haven't come across any more comics that reference a novel as being canon, but I wouldn't be surprised if this particular series at least was made to be canon. I know I have some Spider-Man and X-Men novels from the '90s, and as far as I can tell, they are not canon, but I'm also not as knowledgeable about '90s Marvel as I am about '70s Spider-Man, so I could be mistaken there.
>>84 Not sure. But it has spiderman on the cover and it looks like a book so we will take it. Ah wolfman, and wein yeah above average for the bullpen even at the time. A lot of the older comics had two to three page short stories along with the actual comic material. Early writers got a start doing those backup stories. I dont remember when but yeah at some point they had a paperback division. The early stories being canon, and shilled in the comic is hardly surprising. Marvel did that a lot I recall. Cant read my old xmen without seeing the letters section pimping something that never went anywhere. That being said in the 90's these kind of books were pretty widely available. I bought a ton. I only have a couple now, but yeah usually a good read. The format allows for longer form, and more intricate stories. I have always had a weakness for xmen material from the time. Some of which are also canon. Yes good find OP. I wish there was an epub. I would love to read it some time.

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