>>64274
>The main problem though is that for it to be sealioning, the requests for evidence need to be in bad faith and trolling
The problem is that how do you "know" the person is asking in bad faith
on the fucking internet . We're all anonymous here. Even on social media where people have usernames and avatars, that still doesn't "represent" that person as they could by lying about their identity or LARPing. Or even create another account to "reset" their "identity". Hell, even on boards such as this, there's the non-zero possibility that this entire thread is just the same person talking to himself as there's nothing like IDs or accounts that strictly identify anyone for certain. Even on other boards like /v/ which does have IDs, those can be spoofed easily enough to achieve the same result of someone talking to themself (Either through rotating VPN/Tor proxies or posting on different devices).
So the problem very quickly becomes, do you believe so little in your argument that you're going to dismiss anyone who asks questions? Hell, it doesn't have to be sealioning. I have been involved with several discussions where the other party shut down and refused to further it because of "Whataboutisms", which signalled to me that they cannot actualy explain their argument. And what about discussions where "facts" need to be established? I have several conversations IRL where the other party flipNice personut because I would not agree with their original premise, so they tried to "force" me to agree by constantly changing the defintion of the word. The most recent example was someone I was talking to asked if I agreed with Aristotle's argument that "
Man is a social animal " and I disagreed every which way that I could, to which his response was to constantly change the defintion of "social" to be "doing literally anything in relation to another thing". Whenever I point out to people that the "fusion" of Capitalism and Socialism is Fascism, the person flips out because that must be "wrong" because "Fascism" is something "totally" different. Words like "Equality" have flipped around to be now being "Racist dogwhistles" because it doesn't account for the "true equality" that is "equity". Not to mention how West Taiwan has the "best democracy" for the same reason that democractically electing Cheetoh-Man is a "threat to 'our' democracy". If you do not dare allow a person to ask you questions in order to establish some common ground and understanding in an argument, there is one person who has a problem
and that is you . "Sealioning" and "Whataboutism" is just a deflection used to hide the fragility of your argument. Not to mention your outright dismissal of the possibility that
the person honestly just doesn't know.
>I don't know who you are referring to
This post up here:
>>63958