Rotating IDs are here! Your ID should now change every 12 hours based on the last time you generated a bypass. The rotation period could be raised or lowered in the future based on observation and user feedback.

>>299265 Nice change retards

>>299265 thank you so much.

>>299265 please remove this or vastly increase the timer, this is kinda dumb.

>>299265 maybe the threshold for this is based on per thread/based on activity, i could see how this might be nice for really slow threads, but i think i prefer if my thread had ids for the entire thread since we do get a fair amount of shitters that stand out like a sore thumb

>>299265 I dont like this simply because I have to be inconvenienced to re-filter rebel's new ID thats talking about himself or fallout new vegas every 12 hours

>>300885 >>301187 I mean yeah I don't think we're ever going to find something that makes everyone 100% happy but hopefully this makes some of the anti-ID people a bit more comfortable

>>300885 It's not currently possible to do this, it can only be turned on and off at the board level. I think everyone would be happy if it were somehow up to threads whether IDs were persistent or rotating, but this would a) have to be implemented, which no one has time or incentive to do right now, and b) raises the question of what "up to the thread" means. I don't think "it makes filtering people slightly harder" is a good objection, I never filter anyone and see it as a last resort, and even then it's effortless to do again if necessary.

>>301285 Yeah, opening it up to OPs would be interesting but raises a bunch of new questions, like how do we make this stuff immediately apparent to users of the thread now, and anyway it would require a lot of dev work for something I assume isn't that urgent right now

>>299265 Might as well remove IDs completely if you don't want to use them. What's the point of this?

>>301397 I would have left IDs as they were if it was up to my judgment. We implemented it because it was frequently requested and received positive feedback.

>>301397 Oh no not a shitpost every 12 hours truly the end of the world

>>301285 is the backend open source? does the dev take submissions

>>301479 Yes. Most threads on here are so slow that 12 hours might as well be the same as having no IDs at all. It basically means you only have the same ID for one conversation and that's it. It removes the feeling of "safety" that comes from having IDs while adding nothing positive.

>>301555 personally i think ids are the main selling point of this board, and they should capitalize on it rather than try to appease the people that prefer 4chan anonymity , if surveyed i'm sure the people that are still around are probably overwhelming in favour of the features of this place that set it apart

>>301512 If you want to develop, email Codexx, our BO and site admin. He's pretty responsive. I guess you could try emailing Acid as well. All of the devs are volunteers.

>>301285 Question: Does the feature take into account user's thread ID newness or does it just autorotate for each user every 12 hours regardless of how long an ID has been given to an user in a thread? It's just (pseudocode) IF thread-specific-timer=12 THEN give-new-ID-to-user, right? >>301555 >>301580 Those threads are slow because there are fewer people using them and ID increases the likelihood of/embolden schizos target harassing specific users, and 12 hours is enough time to deter certain kind of samefag thread shitters. It's a good compromise that addresses both problems that 4chan has.

>>301629 Yeah, I've also seen people in slower threads hesitant to post because of IDs making them self-conscious or people not wanting to make one-off silly posts or jokes because it will be tied to all their other posts so I think it's a good compromise to make those people happier.

>>301641 You can't do one-off silly posts with 12 hour wait-times if you're a regular on a thread. I discourages one-offs just as much as full thread IDs do while encouraging shitposting in threads you're rarely in.

>>301629 >ID increases the likelihood of/embolden schizos target harassing specific users It's the opposite. ID protects thread regulars by forming a community that can more easily identify shitposting and disregard attacks coming from IDs with a single post. Not going to post in this thread anymore. I hope they revert this change.

>>301806 Well, it's definitely open to be readdressed in a few days if people see it's having a bad effect on communities

>>301629 The way ID rotation is determined by when you last generated a bypass by filling out a captcha, but it should apply per-thread, and it will take about (thought not exactly) 12h to apply. The whole thread won't generate new IDs at the same time, that happened when it was first implemented but only because everyone had a bypass that was over 12h old.

>>301641 Did you know, if you go outside, you can see people making jokes and being silly all the time? They don't need to wear a fake stache and glasses to do that, either. These complaints get more desperate and nonsensical every time.

>>301854 Do you only get a captcha if you have the same id for 12 hours? My id changes constantly but I never have to fill one out. Is this the intended behavior? I don't remember the last time I had to do one.

>>299265 abysmal change

>>299265 Not feeling this change. If it stays the timer should be longer like a week or so

>>301806 >deliberately ignore the 12hours span between ID changes (and the fact that both slower and faster generals are ok with the change) to make a retarded strawman about ID vs. no ID Retarded 4/vt/ falseflaggerchama...

lol. they really try every angle. keep up the great work guys.

>>299265 I don't think this is a good idea, I haven't thought of all the threadshitting implications for generals but this opens the door for more shit catalog threads, a single dedicated samefag could bump his own thread every 12 hours starting with innocuous posts and slowly moving onto increasingly aggravating bait posts, he could do this for weeks, not to mention other passing trolls could occasionally help him, like the bumpschizo on /vt/ who would bump every single catalog bait threads on cooldown every time they hit page 10. Catalog threads attract dramafags and twitter faggots who love taking screenshots of imageboards (especially those who can monetize their tweets) and many people on twitter take all the information in 4chan screenshots as fact, on /vt/ these are often made to attack vtubers. If people want rotating IDs because the threads are too slow then they should unironically start shilling this place on their favorite boards (or just stay on 4shit, personally I don't mind slow threads) One of the reasons why this board is slow is because we're not forced to constantly bump generals with short pointless posts out of fear of being slid by dogshit catalog threads like this >>285124 (Dead) >>301629 >ID increases the likelihood of/embolden schizos target harassing specific users So far the only people getting "targeted" are the schizos who immediately get spotted with their 1 or 2 negative/troll posts, I have yet to see a user getting genuinely harassed for a post they've made days ago and even if someone tried doing that they would get spotted anyway, just stay consistent with what you say and nobody will give you shit.

>>302265 >a single dedicated samefag doesn't really happen and using rare edge cases that are obvious regardless is disingenuous there are no real shitting implications, just autistic anons playing up hypotheticals in response to change the only real downside is ids rotating in the middle of a conversation making it slightly more difficult to follow, but you probably didn't need them to know who you were talking to in the first place and most of the time the content of the post should be what matters anyway

>>302480 I don't have many problems with it as long as the mods keep deleting the catalog bait threads that attract shitposters and so far they've done a pretty good job, in general threads the schizos almost always reveal themselves right from the first post as they want an immediate response from people so a 12 hours ID reset wouldn't change anything regarding them.

Thank you for the change mods. I've been dying to get the thread back to 4ch and this will help my case

>>299265 It might just be because I don't post that often but 12hrs seems too fast. I don't necessarily want to be identified but having every other post I make be (1) kind of feels weird.

>>303031 you can always use a trip if you want to be identified anons used to do that a lot more often in the olden days

>>303039 It's not about that. Like I said it feels weird to have my posts have a (1) next to them just because I went to sleep or I didn't post all day because I was busy. It's the same as being a new IP with every post. Nobody would trust you.

>>299265 >Your ID should now change every 12 hours Then what the fuck is the point?

>>303051 Please get help for your autism. If you want trust on an anonymous forum, you already got your answer. Use a trip if you want to farm karma. If your posts are worth replying to, the (1) doesn't matter, and if you really care about the opinions of the people who filter ids with low histories, make (2) posts. >>303052 Threads that aren't /pcg/ last for days, some for weeks. It changes nothing in fast threads, although you can argue slower threads means less posters which means less anonymity regardless of ids because they're easier to identify the natural way.

>>303088 >(1)

>>303052 It's mainly for very slow threads, ones that could last days or weeks. People who used those threads complained about being identified for every post they made, and revealing that most of the posts in the thread were made by one or two people. The change was for their benefit. If you're in a faster thread, or a slower thread that you use normally, your experience should be mostly unchanged.

I still haven't received an answer for why the people (or person) against rotating ids are also against using a tripcode. Nor from the people who now want ids removed "for other people's sake." They've changed tactics from being about themselves to being about the mysterious "other people." Concernfagging, if you will. It's very obvious when a bunch of posts suddenly appear at once all using the same argument, and none of them are willing to answer any basic questions. Why are they refusing to use trips if they're clearly in favor of long-lasting ids? Why do the no-id people suddenly want others to have a harder time identifying posters?

>>303051 I agree with that anon. Forget about the (1); if your post is good, it doesn't matter. The Internet already works by constantly changing IP addresses so this doesn't really do anything special. If your thread is small, then you are recognized by your posting style not by your ID.

>>303094 Thus the truth is revealed.

>>303113 And now you see why he wants his ID to change constantly.

>>301806 >disregard attacks coming from IDs this sounds like schizophrenia. It's just a board to shitpost. If you want real "community" go out and seek people, and talk to them face to face. This is the Internet, it's not that serious.

>>301962 I only have to fill in a captcha when I close my browser, so I assume it's tied to cookies or something. It's not something that is annoying, just something that you have to do once in a while.

>>303120 You're a shitposter, but I've asked multiple times if there's a way to keep an id. The answer seems to be no. I don't think I've ever had a streak longer than 10. But outside of a few jokes, 100% of the posters that seriously do >(1) shit are shitposters, and their post history ends up proving it. (You)s are preserved between ids, so I personally see no need to trip.

>>302005 what would the point of that be? Sometimes your ISP will assign you a new IP address randomly, in which case your ID will change anyway.

>>303103 >It's mainly for very slow threads I'm practically the sole poster in multiple slow threads and I think this change is retarded. You are taking away the one good thing this board had.

>>303109 Keep using the "old internet" argument but we all come from 4chan where using tripcodes makes you look like a faggot. Still applies here

>>303153 Static IP is standard with fiber in the US. My IP has changed 1 single time I've used this site and that's because the whole area I live in lost power for a few hours. My ID was previously permanent in the threads I post in, of which 3/4 are slow threads that last a week. One of them has been up since the migration I'm pretty sure.

>>303154 Please explain how this affects you.

>>303161 >wants ids <can't even read ids sasuga >>303154 Care to explain?

>>303161 but a tripcode is what you actually want... it's your self assigned ID... So are people in favor of IDs or not? Cuz I get that anon's point, it's some sort of contradiction, they want IDs but not tripcodes?

>>303186 They want the website to force a trip on everyone so they don't have to admit they're a faggot that wants to dick swing their score around

>>303186 The anon from a couple weeks ago is right. The tl;dr is there'll never be a genuine answer because they aren't being genuine in the first place. When questioned, they clam up or immediately resort to name calling because they can't state their real intentions. It's been like this for this entire meta thread.

The shitposter cries out in pain as he strikes you.

brown people hate ids, shrimple as ergo, the white man should be in favour of ids

>>303109 I want a persistent ID so that I can easily hide/report spammers/troll posts and it puts the burden on them if they want to continue doing it.

>>303272 describe the situation you are afraid of

>>303272 How does a 12 hour reset (based on the poster, not the server) prevent that? Again, fast threads don't last that long, and people are naturally more identifiable in slow threads. Mods actually do their jobs here if someone's a serious shitposter. Shitposters will hop ids regardless of duration if they're trying to dodge filters. You can still filter text in the native settings. There's even native recursive filtering by post and id. I do get what you're saying. "Why do I have to see isis beheadings every 12 hours when I could see it once and never again (for the duration of the thread)" but I just explained how that's not what happens in reality. Maybe chans are not the format for you?

>newfag running damage control saying you don't like image boards if you like ids Meanwhile IDs have been a staple of the major boards here since this site was created. This will be my last post on the matter since this seanigger is just constantly going "but how does this affect you" to everyone that complains. Either have persistent IDs or don't have IDs at all. Rotating IDs is a half measure that doesn't actually solve any problems, and instead it just lets samefagging shitposters do there thing with a longer cooldown. This has no impact on the few active threads since they go through threads every 12 hours, but the medium speed threads will now have have to filter out bad actors more often. Small threads will see no change because now instead of seeing one ID making every post it will tons of IDs with 1 post making every post. Everybody is going to know it is one guy posting in the thread regardless.

>>303330 As you said, IP hoppers will do it regardless of the rotation but people who don't know how to do that are hidden from me until the next thread.

>>303432 >instead it just lets samefagging shitposters do there thing with a longer cooldown It's funny you think they're going to sit there and plan out a days long attack instead of just opening another browser Even if they did, it'd be incredibly obvious that every 13hr some guy shows up replying to a post from 13h ago or spouting the same line and somehow moderation doesn't exist at all in that world To reach this hard looks like you're mad about something else, but can't/won't say it

>>303432 Look, I understand that question is annoying, but we as vols also want to hear your reasoning as a small thread regular for why you oppose the change. Is this essentially it? We'll consider making changes based on your feedback. Again, this was a change that was implemented because people asked for it. I don't really care about filtering, there are lots of tools at your disposal to do that and I would rather people don't filter except as a last resort. We're willing to delete and expose samefags, just report them. I think the point about almost every post coming from a (1) makes sense, but also isn't a drastic problem because as you said it's fairly obvious when it's all one guy.

>>208818 (Dead) >>303556 >this isn't a democracy >we made this retarded decision because you asked for it pick one

>>303583 I think most people can read those two posts (or even just the first honestly) and recognize that there's no contradiction.

>>303432 Now that you put it like this I can see how it would be bad for general threads as well, switching your ID is already very easy if you simply know how to read, rotating IDs feel like a concession for the lazy shitposters, also some people actually WANT others to see their post history, and it's fun to see what color you get every thread. >this seanigger is just constantly going "but how does this affect you" to everyone that complains Some of these posts read like the threadshitters back in 4shit who seethe about this place and Holotower, their only way of stopping the ppm bleed is to try ruining the other sites.

>>303556 I assume you can see my post history so you can verify whether I'm telling the truth. IDs did not prevent people from posting if this is what you're trying to address. What prevents people from posting is not having to post because threads don't die and get removed from the board on page 11. If there's nothing to talk about, you don't have to talk. It's that simple. 12hrs is just too short of a time because of what we both said, every other post being a (1). I also have to go back and reclick "Toggle (You)" all the fucking time because this site can't keep track of them. This is made much easier with clicking the ID to show only posts by that ID so I can mark them as (You) by just clicking them all. "Why don't you just use a trip?" What type of bad faith bullshit question is that? Why don't you set ID's to be site wide so all your posts have the same ID, it's the same thing right? No, right? IDs are just as convenient for small threads as they are for large threads for the exact same reason. If you want to reset your ID then the ones who care about it so much can obviously do it as you can see from the other responses. Does this make them easier to spot? Maybe. Is this a bad thing? No.

>>303611 >I assume you can see my post history so you can verify whether I'm telling the truth. Correct, I'm checking and I see that actual, non-shitstirring small-medium thread regulars are commenting and treating those as valuable feedback, while disregarding people who clearly just hate everything (or are hiding their post history, intentionally or unintentionally). But it's somewhat hard to tell because people are more likely to comment when they dislike something rather than when they like something. It may be that if we reversed the change, a ton of people would come here and beg for it to come back. Would you be happier with a longer period for rotation, like 24h? Or does it really have do be something like 1w, or even longer? At that point it feels even more like a half-measure, I feel like 24h is the maximum rotation period and it would make more sense to disable it than make it any longer.

>>303657 I think 24hr would be fine probably, at least when I imagine the situation in my head. It would be nice if I could set the ID to reset at a specific time as well but I'm not sure if that's possible. So it wouldnt reset while I'm liveposting about my oshi, which it currently does.

>>303432 So, despite conceding an alleged dedicated schizo in your alleged general of choice will make every post from a new id anyway, your problem with rotating ids is you have to press "hide post" slightly more often? Why not report the guy? If the thread's so slow and tight-knit, why would he be getting replies in the first place? Surely this whole melty isn't because it ails you to do two extra clicks per day? Not even that, because of recursive filtering. Are you just really stupid or really paranoid and can't tell who's posting what in these alleged small and slower threads because of a few letters over their post? And saying niggerniggernigger is supposed to revert the change? So you can save two clicks over the de facto majority of people who want a more fair balance of anonymity and accountability? Are you actually incapable of deciding what post is worth responding to without a number telling you it's okay? This is some trauma victim shit, man. The rotating id doesn't matter to me either way, but no one that hates it is capable of explaining why without chimping out or just saying it's because they want to save two clicks. 24 hours is probably better than 12 since that could mean less id shifts in the middle of a faster thread. (Remember, it's based on each poster's captcha / bypass duration, not the server time.)

>>303676 I can talk with the other vols and the BO tonight about potentially raising it, 24h was my original preference (short of not implementing it). The way that IDs are rotated makes it impossible for them to all change at the same time, it's based on a combination of when you generated your bypass and when you first posted in a thread.

>>303657 >But it's somewhat hard to tell because people are more likely to comment when they dislike something rather than when they like something. It may be that if we reversed the change, a ton of people would come here and beg for it to come back. Here's a crazy idea, you could go into threads and ask people. Instead of waiting for people to come to this thread, which they won't because most people don't pay attention to it, go out and see what people want. For me personally rotating IDs is the same as having no IDs at all, so I don't see the point. In small threads you can tell who everyone is already without IDs because they always post the same way. In big threads it just opens the doors for shitposters the same way having no IDs does. Either keep them per thread or get rid of them entirely.

>>303611 >Why don't you just use a trip?" What type of bad faith bullshit question is that? An id created by the poster is bad. An id created for the poster is okay. If you say so. >Why don't you set ID's to be site wide so all your posts have the same ID, it's the same thing right? This supports the idea that it's just about saving two clicks, because that's the equivalent of making a trip per thread and re-entering it as you swap between them, thought by your argument you'd only have to make one trip per general. That's actually less of a problem for desktop users, because you'd have to enter your trip once and just keep the tab open. I don't lose (You)s between ids. That's an extension problem.

>>303703 We don't want to be invasive and start doing capcode tours through everybody's thread and become board celebrities. We're here to get out of your way and let you post the way you want to. But we do value your feedback, we read your threads to see how people are reacting, and we encourage you to post in this thread where you can get our attention and even get direct feedback. I know this is a new thing for anons used to the Nacht und Nebel style of 4chan moderation, but it's how it's typically done on 8chan, and people who deviate from it tend to create problems for themselves and the board.

>>303734 >but it's how it's typically done on 8chan And on 8chan IDs are done per thread, but that didn't stop you from changing it for a vocal minority that complained in these threads. If you are afraid of coming off as board celebrities you could always just go to threads and ask anonymously. You implemented a boardwide change, it is already being talked about in threads. Just go in and ask what people think without your role signature. If you want to get a feel for how the board actually thinks about something instead of just listening to complaints here you are actually going to have to go to threads and solicit peoples opinions. Otherwise people will just leave when you change things in ways they don't like. Anyways, I've said my peace, and I'll leave it at that. Good luck figuring out what to do.

>>303170 >Static IP is standard with fiber in the US. Dynamic IP is standard in Europe, fiber or not doesn't matter.

This thread makes it verly clear half the people here just want usernames

>>303782 I'm not going to masquerade as a regular to create discussion either, I can (and am) just reading the organic discussion. Users need to learn to use the meta thread. If you want more people in your thread to be aware, just crossthread to announcements here. >vocal minority It's true a vocal minority precipitated this change, but it's also a vocal minority that's opposing it. I think most users don't care much either way, or aren't even affected. It's mainly an issue for small threads that last a very long time.

>>303657 >people are more likely to comment when they dislike something rather than when they like something. I like the change and don't want the timer to be increased to 24 hours

>>303555 >Numberfagging websites Come on now

>>303813 For us, it's static because we largely use DHCP with a static IP. There's less overhead for VDSL as well with DHCP. This started back in 2008ish when everyone started switching to walled gardens. I used to be able to reset my IP because it was PPoE but they swapped me over once they started upgrading the infrastructure to fiber. You have to pay for a dynamic IP now afaik, when it used to be the opposite.

>>208445 (Dead) This was already a mistake, been more threadshitters in the past day than since we moved here because of this. Please go back.

I don't really like IDs at all, how they're done doesn't matter much to me, but 12 hours is okay I guess.

>>208445 (Dead) pick a lane ids or no ids the current implementation isnt great

Deffinetly perfered it before, one ID per thread was the right balance. Posts have gotten notably shittier since the change.

IDs that change too often are useless. I'd rather they didn't change at all but they do they shouldn't change more than once a day. If we want to encourage posting in small threads maybe we should lower the post cap on threads so they die faster.

Current implementation seems like the worst of both worlds for any thread not moving at warp speed.

Hi, I'm the dev that implemented ID rotation. You can read about how exactly the rotation works as well as some more of my unsolicited thoughts in the code and comments at https://gitgud.io/8chan/moe_modifications/-/blob/4f1e526b92db34830a76383f744eb56b18e77964/rotate_ids.js . FWIW, I don't care about virtual youtubers at all, but I am stuck in a similar general on /vg/ where I hated having a persistent ID for as long as general threads usually last (days). Time-based rotation seemed like the least bad way to compromise between long-lasting "general" threads and having IDs at all. For better or worse, 8chin /vg/ is basically dead now, so I think this board is going to be the only real deployment of this style of rotation. So while I won't be able to directly address this board's culture (vs /vg/), if there are good suggestions to changes in how the rotation works, I can potentially translate those into actual code. I'll lurk this thread to see if anything comes up.

Also I saw someone once mention that one thing Jap chan sites do is you can selectively choose to post without an ID by sage posting (your post does not bump the thread). People could filter non-ID posts and those posts couldn't clog up the catalog but it allows people to still post fully anonymously if they choose.

I'm happy with the ID change personally, my home thread generally lasts 2-3 days so having 4-6 ID changes in that timeframe feels reasonable to help increase anonymity within the thread to more comfortable level for the most active posters without really giving any more power to people who would try to samefag or otherwise post in bad faith. I've not noticed any disruption as a result of the change (in fact it was so subtle it took a while for anyone to even notice the change had happened in the first place) so I'm surprised at what a strong negative reaction some people seem to be having right off the bat here. To me it looks more like people are just coming up with unlikely hypothetical ways in which rotating ID could be abused rather than anything that's actually happening or likely to happen, and I seriously doubt that "you get a new ID very 12 hours instead of only when a new thread is made" actually attracted a mass influx of shitposters as some are claiming.

Please remove ID rotation.

>>303611 >If there's nothing to talk about, you don't have to talk. It's that simple. Yeah that the thing, /vt/ has a ton of threadwatchers who never open a single stream or even clip and just shitpost, tribalfag, and gossip all day, some even brag about not knowing the voice of some of the vtubers they spend all their time talking about, aside from the schizos I think this is the second group that really hates IDs. However if it's just liveposting or genuine discussion then people shouldn't be ashamed of posting a lot. >>303657 24h is better yeah, it's a bit less drastic but i'd still prefer if it was 1 ID per thread, honestly the problem stems from the site being underpopulated, we should think about how to make this place more popular, I'm sure there are still plenty of non-shitposters who don't know about it, i'd say having the double of the current posting speed would be ideal, more than that might attract some trash. >>303734 I think the majority of the users of the site respect the moderation right now and appreciate your work so you don't have to worry about coming off as attention-whorish especially if it's to improve the site, and like the other poster said you can just ask anonymously.

I personally don't mind it because I mostly post in a general where it doesn't matter since it's one of the faster ones. That said, doing it this soon while you still have retards practically begging >us to migrate back to 4cuck because they're miserable being exclusively among their own threadshitting kind seems a little silly. A few others have mentioned across the board maybe lowering the cap for the sake of slower threads would be better, although tech shit is foreign to me. Don't know if its possible to do in a way that doesn't quadruple the amount of used /pcg/ threads.

>>304110 I think the easiest thing would be to create an option for OPs to enable or disable ID rotation, perhaps even with a field for rotation period. This would create its own problems, because OPs can be trolls or simply have a different opinion than most regulars, (which militates against letting OPs set periods), but it would be easier than some sort of 11d chess implementation. There's an anon here who swears he wants to develop some new implementation, c.f. >>216432 (Dead) >>300885 >>301512

>>304151 I'd just suggest that if this is implemented it's vitally important that it be visible on the OP since we don't want it to be a surprise that people only find out X hours into a thread

>>304110 >using ai to assign ids based on what's typed Actual fucking Dr. Wily insanity. >It is sometimes useful to have an unforgeable ID across comments that you can opt-in to even after you make the first post (unlike tripcodes, which you have to explicitly use on even your first post). You could potentially do this by having some UI in the post form to indicate "I want to maintain the ID with a specific previous post number", and if it's present, lookup the post, verify the ip/bypassId are the same, then reuse the ID. You could potentially do the reply chain graph traversal for reply-chain specific IDs client-side as well (which is usually when you'd want to maintain an ID, replying to replies to a post you made). This sounds nice, but it's kinda pointless because people who aren't crazy can tell when the same person is talking to them on a different id. Tripcodes were meant for this purpose anyway, so that'd be a whole lot of work to reproduce something that already exists, if some srs bsns discussion actually requires people to id up.

>>304151 I'd say let's try the 24h ID rotation first to see how it works out.

I don't really like ids since they're the antithesis of anonymous culture (whatever you think that means) and it makes me feel like I'm using a tripcode in every thread. That being said, it does deter shitposters so I got used to them. I think you're dropping the ball here by turning down a feature that sets this place apart from 4chan. This place didn't have the amount of activity of 4chan's /vt/ even at peak migration and now that 4chan is back, activity has gone down even more. What this means for a vtubing board is that threads are expected to last for weeks because most generals focus on a handful of streamers, so when there are no streams there is no activity and because threads don't fall off the board there isn't even a need to bump threads and there's no need for the subsequent migration to a new thread because the thread was filled with useless chatter during off stream hours. What does this have to do with short lived ids? This means that shitposters can shitpost to their heart's content during active hours and then expect to have a new id the next time the thread has activity again. And more than that, this "new id every time we have activity" will actually be the norm for everyone. >but bro they could always reset their ip even with long lived ids, no? It's not the same situation because in the case where ids last for a long time people get used to the "regular ids" and have a better chance of recognizing and fending off shitposters. Imagine the situation where ID-A disappears and suddenly ID-B appears and starts being an annoying shitposter, the shitposter would have no way of getting ID-A again.

>>304151 Another option I just thought of is base it on post count. Set it to a number most regulars in a large thread wont reach but a small thread will reach within the span of it. Like say 50 posts. That way it could scale with usage. With time based, how long your thread lasts affects how much you see an ID reset. But if you base it on post count, it's just a matter of how often the users post. At least with my current thought process, it seems fair. In the threads I'm a regular of, that would result in 1-2 ID resets per more-active-regulars. The less active users are harder to spot by nature of just not posting as often. If they've made 5 previous posts in the thread over the span of a week, it's relatively anonymous still in comparison to the anon who posts when new streams are live every time.

>>304292 Feels like the worst of both worlds to be tbh.

>>304244 Finally an actual argument. Now I want longer id durations. In this example of keeping the same id between streams, it'd have to be a 72 hour minimum to account for a day off between streams. This is all still predicated on the idea of people needing others to farm karma so they can use the number to tell them what posts to respond to. Some people are never going to be happy unless the site requires registration, or generals get banned only for them to find out why generals were created in the first place.

>>304616 In what way? I'm not saying I'm correct just that I think it's probably better than a timer. Personally I'm on the side of keeping it per thread but I'm at least willing to try 24hrs. The way I see it is the 12hr version is the worst of both worlds and only really benefits large threads where you wont even notice the ID reset. Even in medium threads you can be 400 posts in and see a constant stream of new IDs. Which didn't happen as often before the change and isn't something I'd call a desirable situation based on the purpose of IDs in the first place. At least if you set it to the post number you can scale that reset timer out organically. The one group that would be hurt by it is the ones who don't post a lot but like I said, if you don't post a lot you're basically anonymous even in a small thread. If you don't like the number 50 just imagine it as another number, it doesn't really matter.

>>299265 12 hours is either way too short or maybe rotating IDs shouldn't be a thing. The only thing I liked about IDs was spotting shitposters with a (1) post counter. Since everyone gets on at different hours, now almost every 2nd post in my home general has a post counter of (1).

>>301627 ok i emailed him

>>304974 The ID rotation dev also posted here, he'd probably be willing to help you. >>304110

>>304151 >I think the easiest thing would be to create an option for OPs to enable or disable ID rotation That is feasible I think, though yeah it is sort of trollable. I feel like ideally 8chan would have "sub-boards" (or equivalently, a better overboard/metaboard system than the current one), where for each general, you could customize things like ID rotation times or post limits and even have custom rules, vols, stickies, etc, but still defer to a hierarchy of parent boards. /vg/ has always been a degenerate collection of essentially separate boards with separate cultures (and separate jannies) anyway, and I assume /vyt/ is sort of like that too. You'd have to do some other frontend UI work to get a subboard to be as convenient as a general thread, but I stuff like per-thread (or really, per-general) settings and cultural differences would then be more natural. >>304162 >This sounds nice, but it's kinda pointless because people who aren't crazy can tell when the same person is talking to them on a different id. Tripcodes were meant for this purpose anyway Right, it's pretty niche, but I wrote it down while I was thinking of it. Tripcodes still have the problem where you have to opt-in to them ahead of time. A "verifiable (You)" system would at least give you one of the nice things about IDs without the rest of the (IMO) bad parts. >>304974 As a quick rundown of 8chan development: it's a nodejs backend talking to mongodb that also serves a templated HTML frontend along with the javascript bits in the Aleph repo. You can submit merge requests to the gitgud.io repositories and eventually the site owners will review and maybe merge them. However, for weird political reasons or something, the upstream LynxChan backend isn't forked but monkey-patched at runtime with this repo https://gitgud.io/8chan/moe_modifications, which makes it extremely awkward and dangerous to change anything (like the ID rotation). Besides that hurdle, it is possible to implement and test changes locally (no automated tests though lol) once you have the collection of repositories set up correctly. There is also a matrix chatroom where you can talk to codexx and the other devs (including yours truly) for more specific tips, but in theory you don't have to join that. While there are several volunteer frontend devs working on stuff now, I think I'm the only backend volunteer dev, so I can also answer specific questions here.

I like rotating IDs. I felt like I had to be a specific poster once I talked about one topic for the rest of that thousand post thread that lasted forever

>77 new messages since I last checked the thread Damn, seems like the activity went up at least. Maybe we should enable and disable IDs every other day so we could argue about the same thing eternally.

>>306004 >assume /vyt/ is sort of like that the biggest divide we have is the big tent threads that want to play things a little more fast and loose, where the IDs do a lot of the heavy moderation lifting and the small threads that sometimes want more of a hugbox since many of them have been schizo targets for years and the level of schizoing roughly determines how badly they want IDs and how sticky they want them to be other than that, it's fairly level across the board just with minor cultural flavor differences

>IDs have been proven to objectively improve quality >Gaslighting BO into turning them off.

So, there's a lot of debate about whether things should remain this way, or if we should lengthen the expiration time, put IDs back to being permanent, or do something else entirely. We're still trying to decide that among the vol teem as well, but since the change has already been made it makes sense to give it a few days to see how it plays out. My recommendation to people on both sides would be, if you can see concrete, specific examples of how this change is affecting poster behavior whether in a positive or negative way, document them and link them here, whether in screenshots, links to posts, what have you. This will help a lot with the final decision since it can be hard to track changes in behavior across a large number of threads, especially when we might not necessarily be familiar with the typical culture of all of them. Anyway to everyone else I'd just suggest to just consider this a trial run for the next few days. Remember that it's not final and we can always go back, and that we are taking your feedback and what we can observe of how the board responds into account here.

can you set options so you aren't able to delete your own posts in a thread if it locks? Commieschizo is being a faggot using this loophole, pushing his psyop after the thread ends

>>306777 >>306777 don't think so, but he's a coward, just use it to mock and undermine him those types thrive on you taking them seriously and continuing stupid keyboard fights

Alright friends, gave your /meta/ thread a good read. So some of you don't like your threads being slow? Well. Thread Mercenary here. Point me to these threads and I'll start posting. I'll take any number of (You)s as payment.

When your ID rotates from the new system, do you count as one UID or two UIDs in the thread statistics?

>>306896 It's "UID" not "UIP" so what do you think?

>>306896 >>306908 Got curious and checked the json and saw 193 unique IDs in the thread currently so I'd say it probably doesn't affect that

>>306946 Yeah, Codexx confirmed this. UIDs is actually UIPs, ID rotation has no effect on it.

What exactly is the thread limit for this board? The catalog loads significantly more slowly (on mobile) now that there are so many locked threads in it. It's bad if you're not using the default sorting option or are doing a search because the threads will reshuffle once the page has finished loading.

Don't know if we can purge like 15 pages worth of dead threads. The catalog is a complete chore to sift through right now. Without the option to sort by "last reply" there's no easy way of telling what threads are actually inactive and which ones are just autosaged.

The new ID thing is annoyingly short. Its been like 5 hours since the last time I got one already. Either full commit to thread IDs, or have no IDs at all. This half-measure is fucking stupid

>>306298 kek. i like the way you think.

>>307692 >Its been like 5 hours since the last time I got one already Sounds like your ID probably changed for an unrelated reason

>>307267 450, we're almost there >>307306 could, but without real archives, they're gone forever except archive.today I'm going to try merging them into like 5k post threads and we'll see where that goes the catalog is a little fucky right now but is getting bandaided and last reply is on the list eventually and automatic bump lock might be changed

Is this a weird intentional change to how replies to posts are displayed or did something break? I can't hover over them to quickly see the posts anymore either.

>>308064 ctrl-shift-r / clear cached images and files

>>308102 Thank you

>>308033 There's literally nothing wrong with letting threads bump off and die forever. In the context of Vtubers especially archives just usually get used for dramafaggotry by retaining things that were deleted.

>>308237 personally found them useful many times for looking up old resources, references, etc and disproving bullshit rrats or doompilling dramafags just make shit up (and they're usually just making shit up even if they're talking about archives)

>go to catalog >click thread >slow down asshole >slow down asshole >slow down asshole fix this dogshit. retarded way to try and mitigate attacks

Keep getting error 429 "slow down asshole" on .se when trying to browse vyt. Doesn't happen on .moe

>>306753 imo current timer is too short. Also, I did enjoy "one ID for entire thread" more because of gacha you'll be stuck with for entire thread. After some time with IDs stopped noticing them besides color anyway

>>307183 Would there be any benefit to having the IPs and total number of unique IDs both listed separately?

>>309037 can try it yourself if you want Object.keys(posting.idsRelation).length (236 currently for this thread, 164 uips) not sure why it would matter, though if you want to get creative, you could graph it against uips over time to see if the ips are inflating out of step from a raid, but don't forget to compare to the usual activity for that time of day there were tools for 4chan that would do something like that measuring what posts were being quoted to sus out polbots

>>307692 >>308006 I can attest that my ID changed in ~5 hours. I thought it was supposed to be 12 or is the reset on a global timer?

>>309528 it purposefully isn't tied to the thread, so the first refresh in a thread can be much shorter since your first post may have been 7 hours into that cycle I'm not exactly sure if it's a completely global cycle, as I think it's computed with the thread as part of the salt offsetting it, so all your ids don't refresh at the same time, either never got around to reading the source, but you can if you want to try gaming it

>>309140 >>309683 so we now need someone to make a script that tracks the IP counter and unique IDs, in order to highlight posts that are both (1) and correlate with a new IP posting in the thread in order to see the real (1)s threadshitting.

>>306753 The way it's currently set up makes the effective use time of an ID way too short. It may reset every 12 hours, but it's not like I'm getting 12 hours of use out of it. >>305001 (Cross-thread) >>308603 (Cross-thread) >>308990 (Cross-thread) These are the first posts I made for each of my last 3 IDs. There were a full 18 hours between the first and second ID being generated, so I expected the second ID. However, it changed to the third ID 1.5 hours after the second ID was generated, during which I was still liveposting for the same stream. It's ridiculous that the second ID expired 1.5 hours after I started using it. Also, no one seems to be able to get past 10 posts on the same ID, and filtering has become much less effective. I understand that we're trying to counter the lack of an archive, but I'd prefer lowering the post limit for threads. If someone plans to merge the oldest locked threads for generals into 5k megathreads anyway, having a lower limit for the active threads wouldn't matter in the long run.

>>310269 not the first instance I've seen of that, might be a bug I'm trying to write a local archive just to pull the json and thumbs now, maybe skip the whole megathread thing and if someone wants to start a real archive later they can rebuild from the json, probably an easier way to do it anyway megathreads would just buy us time; a local archive lets us drop the catalog size

>>309528 The exact rotation time is unique per IP and per thread, so like >>309683 says, your first ID will last on average only half the rotation time, and could end up only lasting minutes. After that though, your next ID will last a full ~12 hours. I implemented the rotation that way to avoid a hypothetical "schizo-o-clock" where if the IDs all rotated ~12 hours after the thread was created, you could make posts on either side of the rotation to samefag--or more realistically and maybe worse, have to endure a bunch of shitposts complaining about people possibly doing this every time the interval came up. FWIW, as I said in >>304110 , I implemented this from the experience and opinions of a /vg/ and /a/ poster, not a /vt/ or /vyt/ poster, and I imagined the ideal ID rotation being in minutes, rather than hours. Thus the "short" first ID would matter less since it'd always be short. Reading between the lines here, it seems people want to actually build up post counts (at least, people who care enough to complain about it in a meta thread). So I can see an argument for a a more synchronized reset time being better here. >>310269 The rotation time is also unsynchronized to your post times, so it's possible you made the first post, had your 2nd ID go unused in that 18 hours, posted with the 3rd ID, and then with the 4th ID 1.5 hours later, where it rotated from 3rd to 4th sometime in between.

>>303858 I'm also not a fan of how the primary feedback method seems to be complaints after a change is implemented. There should be some sort of way to let everyone give feedback before changes are pushed out. Regularly checking /meta/ isn't a great solution, as there's no effective way to tell how fast it's moving at a glance. It's also annoying to try to find the announcement post if discussion's beein going on for a while. Not exactly sure how to phrase it, but timing details might also be an issue, as rotating IDs were mentioned a decent while ago, but they were only implemented a couple days ago. I was aware that rotating IDs were going to happen when they were initially mentioned but not when the details were ironed out. Can there be a compromise where vols can crosspost when the board is seriously considering a change and redirect discussion to /meta/? Especially at the stage where there's a concrete proposal, as that would be a great time to push out a poll. Alternatively, the OP of this thread could be edited with an announcement blurb with a link to the full post when something comes up. >>310283 Nice. The catalog's getting unwieldy to even look through, so that's definately appreciated. >>310343 That's what I figured happened; the way it played out just ended up being rather silly, even though it's an edge case. I think that using the variable rotation time calculated from time of posting for all IDs might work better if the time range is increased. (e.g. 12 to 24 hours) Threads here have a variable post rate where they'll be more active during a live stream but slow when there's nothing going on, so calculating it from the time of your first post after an ID expires could make it easier to keep the same ID through a conversation that could last hours during dead periods.

>>306753 i don't have concrete examples i can post to, but some of my own feedback: ids was a nice gimmck everytime we started a new thread, you could brag or whine about the colour you got, as soon as this change was rolled out i personally stopped caring about ids at all, colours are moot and they might as well not exist, i don't even look at them anymore except sometimes for a context clue on who im talking to in thread which is a great segway to my next one * multi-hour conversations are confusing with the new ids, sometimes the id will change during a topic and it's no longer clear who im talking to * maybe just me, but our threads were extremely comfy for the past few weeks and noticed a little more schizophrenia in my thread as of late, basically immediately after rotation was rolled out, maybe it's a good thing that people are now starting to post their unfiltered opinions but i must say i rather enjoyed the peace and civility that came with people holding themselves back a bit

>>310709 >ids was a nice gimmck everytime we started a new thread, you could brag or whine about the colour you got >and noticed a little more schizophrenia in my thread as of late Same here on both. The second one isn't in my home thread since that was always pretty civil even without IDs because we only got shitposted about outside our thread. But I have noticed it in some of the other threads I visit. There's one holy grail color we've been looking forward to though and if it happens on an ID that immediately expires I'm going to be really sad.

>>310748 yeah it was kind of fun looking forward to certain colours, i'll miss that if this ends up being a permanent thing

what's the difference between .moe and .se? I see many people saying "this doesn't work on .se but it works on .moe" and similar. I've only ever been to .moe since .se was down in the last weeks.

>>310789 geoblocks, visible boards, anons that haven't learned how to refresh their js cache from the update and switching sites also "fixes" that

>>310619 >I'm also not a fan of how the primary feedback method seems to be complaints after a change is implemented. We announced rotating IDs about two weeks before they were implemented. Almost all of the feedback was positive, and most of the opposition was from people who were opposed to the entire concept of IDs in the first place. We also had previous feedback dating to the initial migration begging for it. This is what we based the decision on. The sad reality is that people aren't going to be motivated to comment unless something has actually happened, and they're much more much more likely to comment on changes if they dislike them than if they like them. There's no way, at least that I can see, to get everyone's genuine feedback short of actually pushing updates and seeing how people react. Things that seem like a good idea might not be so good when you actually experience them, people that don't normally care will be motivated to comment when their experience actually changes, etc. I don't see an easy way around these problems. >Regularly checking /meta/ isn't a great solution Why not? The thread is pinned at the top of the board. Even when/if it's unpinned, it's set to float around page 1-2, and should be highly visible, and won't take much time to check once every week or two. You can even crosspost it to your own thread. I don't think vols will ever come to your thread to announce changes. I'd personally only consider it to advertise a board event or something, and most of the vols think even that's too invasive. I also don't like the idea of polls, because we have no inline poll feature and external polls can be manipulated, and we don't want to be bound by polls (which have self-selected respondents) anyways. I think that bigger changes being a board-level announcement might be a good idea. There's going to be less and less of those as time goes on, but it's something we could do.

>>310803 >board-level announcement see the Kiki meme review. There was a global announcement for a week. Something like that would help direct anons to the thread where these things are being discussed.

>>310709 >>310748 Yeah this was a bit of board culture that I was starting to enjoy, it was fun seeing people "roll" their desired color, pray to not have a brown ID or sharing the superstitions around each ID color, kinda like checking dubs/trips but more fun and without potential thread derailment, it's a fun little thread starter and probably resets the mood to a more friendly atmosphere if there was some heated arguments at the end of the previous thread, which was a common problem on /vt/, when people who get into a stupid arguments, discuss off-topic shit or annoying drama, they would sometimes immediately bring it back to the new thread and immediately ruin it

>>310803 >Why not? Honestly one of the biggest current annoyances with coming here is triggering Error 429 every time I leave my thread. I've kept the tab open to compensate for that but I know I'm not everyone and a lot of people like to close everything and have a minimalist setup.

>>310901 Are you on .se or .moe? If you can, use the latter, I've never gotten it on .moe. In either case I've let the admins know it's a problem, but this is beyond our paygrade as vols.

>>310901 bandaids are in the works for 429s updates take a while though

>>310803 The main problem at the moment is that it's not even working properly, me and multiple people had their ID change in less than 12h after our initial post, sometimes more than once >>310877 when people would get into stupid arguments*

>>310908 I only used .moe until earlier today when I ran into this captcha and got locked out of posting because I refreshed. I thought my script blocker blocked it. Already posted about it on /site/ but I would probably add that I think this captcha specifically is very confusing and is going to get a lot of anons locked out. If you don't know to clear cookies to get it to show up again then you have to either go to .se or stumble upon the solution somehow.

>>310926 yeah it's a fuck like most of the site one unfucking at a time currently at 125 open issues on the tracker and probably at least a dozen more like that one waiting until they can be thought through and documented properly

In response to feedback, rotating IDs have been disabled by the BO.

>>310946 It's not a big deal just don't want the anons I post with to get locked out because they keep refreshing, so just spreading the word really. As long as something is done to make it clear what's going on with that captcha then I'm fine with that. >>310976 Sweet, thanks

>>310976 Thank you, you guys are cool 💕

>>310976 Thank you!

>>310976 As someone who prefers non-rotating IDs, thank you!

>>310976 i think it's fine like this. i also thought it was fine when they rotated after several hours. thanks for all your hard work and your attention to user feedback.

>>310976 As someone who's fairly ambivalent on the ID rotation, just wanted to say thanks for working with the community and all the back-and-forth on this. Can't make everyone happy.

>>310976 Thanks for being so receptive to community feedback! I already wrote this, so I'll just post it as feedback/suggestions for planning and announcing future changes, mainly for level of detail and visibility. >>310803 >We announced rotating IDs about two weeks before they were implemented. >Things that seem like a good idea might not be so good when you actually experience them I don't think there was enough technical detail given two weeks ago, at least not in the initial announcement. Based on some of the feedback here, it seems like there are a fair amount of people who were under the assumption that one ID would last for 12 hours from the time you first made a post under that ID. I do see >>208696 (Dead) mentioning the initial rotation time, but it can be misinterpreted via what someone thinks "first post in the thread" means. The phrasing in >>299265 was more clear, and putting that level of detail in the initial announcement, before the change was pushed, would have been preferrable. >check once every week or two Visibility/readability issues, especially if there's been a discussion-heavy period and you're a few days late to the conversation. I'd be more okay with it if there was a way to highlight full announcements better. I see that there was rotating IDs mentioned in the big red font in a follow up reply chain, but it would have been better if the initial post was made in the giant red letters. I had a bit of trouble finding the initial announcement post on a quick scroll through. >polls Ah, I didn't mean that polls should be the final dictator of direction, just that they could be use to cast a wider net for getting a general feeling from people who might not feel as strongly. More along the strawpolls used in the beginning. Ideally, through some platform that could let you track when votes come in so you can see if there's a big flood of votes for one option, which would indicate clear abuse. >Board-level announcement I forgot about the Kiki meme review announcement. I was presuming that it wasn't possible for some reason and imagining thread-level announcements as a substitute, but no need for the thread announcements then.

>>310976 based, appreciate you guys experimenting to try and make things better, there probably is something better we just have to find it

>>311171 >Visibility/readability Clarification: visibility of announcement posts within the thread, not visibility of the thread itself within the board. Just noticed that two levels of visibility were being mentioned in the conversation, whoops.

I want to suggest two new features. >Emoji Picker Since this board supports emoji, add an emoji-picker widget. >Oshi Marks Like meme flags, but for vtubers. Pick a sequence of 1-3 emoji for your oshi, i.e 🔌🐰 to tell people you like Pippa or 🚃💨💨 to say you like Dooby3D

You could just do oshi marks like this can't you

>>310976 I'm pretty disappointed at how quickly this feature got reverted compared to how much time and effort people put into discussing it to get it considered and implemented in the first place, barely allowing two days before disabling it feels like a kneejerk response to kneejerk backlash to me. I hope there's at least some kind of backup plan to address the issues people had that rotating IDs were intended to address and they're not just going to be forgotten about.

idk what happened but I cant hover over post links to see them anymore, maybe im just a brainlet and need to clean my cookies tho

>>311334 False flag galore.

>>311580 cache, not cookies ctrl shift r / clear cached images and files

>>310976 Then I won't be posting here anymore, since my home thread is slow enough to last months.

>>311012 Seriously it's nice to have mods willing to experiment and even revert back on changes, you guys are pretty humble compared to the malicious cunts on halfchan, you deserve more posters >>311519 As some other anon suggested this could be a toggleable option when making a new thread, the rotating ID status of the thread could be indicated by a symbol like the pin and arrows on this thread, the problem is that it could lead to trolling from both people who want rotating IDs and people who don't, On /vt/ some people would sometimes make troll OPs with off-topic, disgusting, drama-baity, or controversial images and the mods would allow the thread to stay If it's not too much work the mods here could maybe switch the rotation status of the thread manually if requested (if it's even possible at all) in the case of the OP being a troll or genuinely forgetting to select the option people want

>>311519 We're still very much discussing and going through alternative approaches, preferably ones that won't be felt boardwide, only where it's needed. More feedback is appreciated though, really.

>>311471 thanks for the tip, it has made /pcg/ very fun.

>>311637 damn... im retarded...

>>310976 NIce, Thanks

>>310976 Just to provide a different perspective, I was indifferent to the changes. I don't feel it affected me.

.moe is currently unusable, had to switch to .se

>>312987 seems to have been fixed now

I thought we were getting rotating IDs, did they go back on it?

>>314080 >>310976

>>314080 yes, scroll back up, they decided to disable the rotation at the moment

Coming here from one of the /generals/ This new 12 hour ID sucks. Please change it back or at least make it 24 hours. The increasing influx of troll, bait, rage posts etc has been noticeable.

>>310976 Thank you. IDs are the best feature of the site.

>>314691 Anon... >>310976

0513d6 here, is there any plan in place to properly archive the older general threads sitting at the bottom of the catalog? I know that someone here is working on an archival system at the moment along with the one that the admins are creating for the entire site but this board's catalog is about six threads away from hitting the limit and the current archiving method has the image thumbnails fail to appear after a certain point. I think it would be a good idea to have the globals start moving the oldest Phase Connect General threads in particular to a dedicated archive board like what /v/'s Blue Archive threads since that would be a nice stopgap measure until the archive system comes online, though I'm not sure how the backend would handle that since those threads make up a large chunk of the catalog.

>>318491 If you want to do that just have somebody set up a destination board for them and then file global reports for the dead threads "dead thread, please move to /archiveboard/" or whatever and some global should handle it. Just please do be sure to give the exact name of the proper board when you do this. This is what those /bag/ threads are doing. Same goes for other generals that want to archive their content too, I don't think it's really an issue but you need to set up a place for it to go.

>>318491 So, this is literally above our paygrade. Vols and even BOs can't move threads to an archive board, or any other board. You have to deal with this at the global level.

Do we have to keep a general until it's close to 1000 posts before baking? It could be weeks for >>9069 (Cross-thread)

>>318867 Nah, but for housekeeping purposes it may be good to report the old thread to have it locked if you don't

>>318877 Would it be possible to increase the number of posts it takes for a thread to be anchored? If you increased it from 500 to around 750 it would benefit the slower threads. It has taken over a month for some threads to hot 500 posts, so they will spend at least that long anchored.

How did people get so soft they can't deal with 1 shitpost every 12 hours?

Kindly requesting a harder off-topic policy on politics and religion. We're getting increasingly flooded with spergs who NEED to debate this bullshit in the Vtuber board. >>318941 Threads don't bump off so it's not important, no?

>>320519 (Cross-thread) I know this post is a joke, but does 8chan support those blue ## Verified tripcodes from halfchan? Honestly the only time I remember that happening is when Tattun from Studio Trigger was doing a Q&A on /a/

>>318941 >>320365 >Threads don't bump off so it's not important, no? it's currently hardcoded at 1/2 lock limit, and it's been floated to decouple it before, but priorities there's no good reason for them to not be separate settings eventually >Kindly requesting a harder off-topic policy on politics and religion. We're getting increasingly flooded with spergs who NEED to debate this bullshit in the Vtuber board. I don't want to you to feel like you're not heard here, but outside of the egregious spam/blatantly obvious gayops/cuckchanbait, moderation is typically by request, not rule sure, it's off topic, but off topic digressions* add flavor and life to threads; they're a reasonable part of community building as long as they're not actually damaging anything *NB: digressions, not off topic spam for the sake of off topic spam the posters you're talking about are probably (only because I haven't verified recently) the same two retards and you wouldn't be seeing them at all if you learned to recognize and filter them like the rest of the thread does instead of reporting them >>320615 too much of a newfag to know how exactly it works, but I assume they make a site account and get assigned a role then use #rs like we do

>>320659 >instead of reporting them I do want to say it's entirely okay to report them, too, if you want it helps avoid the situation of people thinking reports do nothing just don't spam report every single post they make in the thread those reports may not do anything at the moment if you're the only one doing it, but they help keep things on the radar and they contribute if the thread eventually decides enough is enough I don't mind closing reports and closed reports don't mean you were wrong for reporting, just that they don't currently meet the threshold for action

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>>320682 There will likely always be a good bit of political and religious conversation because of certain vtubers, Pippa and now Clio, whose content is almost entirely centered around current events for the former and historical games for the latter. It's nothing that filters and recursive hiding can't "fix."

>>322219 Yeah, for us it's a bit of a dilemma since we don't really want to be tyrants cracking down on every bit of slightly off topic discussion if the rest of the thread seems ok with it, but if a thread as a whole makes it clear they don't want a certain type of discussion there I have no problem with respecting those wishes and removing it. I'd say that if it crosses the line don't hesitate to report it as goodgirlbeam suggested. Even if it's not necessarily acted on immediately we will notice if that stuff pops into the queue often, especially if multiple people are reporting it.

>>322355 I hid the first religious post in the latest full /pcg/ and it only hid 12 replies. Then I found out it only works for a couple of layers, so I went to the full thread before that and scrolled around to manually refresh the post hiding. I ended up with 44, out of 1000 posts. Hardly a shitstorm, but it does reveal that the recursive hiding and filtering options aren't fully functional. (Firefox on Android.) It breaks on single quote replies as well, so it's not simply skipping posts that reply to both one hidden/filtered post and another clean post, for example.

I'm curious to see the graph of board traffic from like early April until now. It feels a lot more dead now that 4chan's been back several weeks. Some threads that have hundreds of posts barely crack 50 UIDs. Such is the life of an altchan. Even if a good chunk of people swap, they usually slowly fade away as they can't attract new users.

>>323316 Numbers tracks stats daily. >>166552 (Cross-thread)

>>323316 I'm drunk so I'm going to vent on that topic a little. As someone who actually wanted to stay here, let me tell you why I'm not. The idea of using the local catalog as a long-term archive of threads is fucking retarded. Forcing users to load literally hundreds of useless dead threads every time they open the catalog is asinine. Archives are not essential nor even necessarily desirable to imageboard posting, and absolutely not such a priority that they should affect the UX of people just looking for threads to post in. 30-some pages of catalog should never have been considered an option without providing the ability to sort by "last reply" rather than bump order, the latter of which is completely useless for half a thread's lifespan. I need a userscript just to put threads I care about at the top of the catalog so I can find the goddamn things among the cemetery of useless shit. Rotating IDs were a perfectly reasonable compromise between fast and shitpost-y threads who demand IDs and much slower, more peaceful threads that can get by fine without, but that concept was abandoned in less than 48 hours on the back of complaints from aforementioned fast threads. I'd rather no IDs, but an ID I have to keep for weeks at a time is a dealbreaker. Fuck you niggers bitching about rotating IDs when your entire thread lasts for less than 36 hours. This isn't an imageboard, it's a bbcode forum without signatures.

>>324096 I think the catalog thing is something that they hope to improve, but just a matter of needing to find dev time for it and there's a lot of other priorities that also need to be addressed. But yeah I think everybody agrees that the current situation there isn't exactly ideal. On the subject of archives, the option of different generals setting up their own board for archival and having globals migrate their dead threads over (cleaning up our catalog a bit in the process) is still open, though as far as I know only /#/ has done so as of now. /pcg/ expressed some interest but then nobody actually got around to making a board for it last I checked. And honestly I was hoping we could give rotating IDs a bit more of a chance too, but the reaction was a lot more negative than expected and I think the feeling was that most people who are vehemently anti-ID have probably left already, so we shouldn't compromise something that's become one of the reasons many people stay here just to try to win back people who have already left. I'd still like to see a better compromise emerge someday, with a bit more care taken in how it's communicated to the community before it's all rolled out. I do sympathize with people from slower threads that don't like being stuck with the same ID for a long time, and if you guys would feel more comfortable rebaking earlier and having us lock/merge your old threads I have no problem with that, just drop a report on the old one when you feel like migrating. Obviously we don't want every thread doing this daily, but you don't have to feel obligated to use the same one for months either, and if you want to change your OP or get a fresh image or whatever that's perfectly fine too. I know it's not a perfect solution, and I do hope we can come up with a better compromise in the near future that everyone is happy with.

>>318509 This is something that should be done automatically. Once a thread reaches post limit or gets locked without a sticky, it should be moved to an archive sub page like it's done on halfchan. It would drastically improve site performance and decrease all the 429 errors we've been getting. I know I should say this on a higher level, but every post I've made in /site/ has been ignored, no exceptions.

>>324881 site meta's not going to give you a pat on the back for your ebin ideas, but they do get read, discussed, and turned into issues if they make sense, aren't waiting for further considerations, and I don't forget features like that generally involve back end mods, which are harder to craft and harder to test since you need to run a local instance for debugging and verifying vs just using dev overrides on the front end js threads need a new flag, the catalog api response needs adjusted, a new page needs created, board settings need patched in, considerations need to be made for lynxchan's actual archive feature which is currently disabled, etc you can always add issues yourself directly to the tracker if you want to guarantee they don't get lost https://gitgud.io/8chan/Aleph/-/issues or, even better, submit merge requests

>>324949 > for your ebin ideas Anon, even my questions were ignored, as if I was shadowbanned or something. For example, I added a couple features to the catalog filter script, and I went there to ask whether there's a way to query the active board for the max post per thread counter so it wouldn't be just hardcoded to 1000 for /vyt/, but not even a beep back. I just took a look at the gits <both aleph and lynxchan are written in js I don't expect a port to a different backend of course I'm a former software dev, backend, but that definitely explains the performance issues.

>>325014 admins are usually time strapped and were used to like one question a month before we all washed up that was probably at the time when I didn't know my way around and any of the recent devs didn't read meta I can say now, no, I don't think there is, but I don't see why it'd be hardcoded instead of letting the user set/override it themselves postlock doesn't even have a flag on thread objects, I think it's just a posting check that aborts the post based on autosageLimit * 2 it's not in the board page json, either; that only does boolean settings for some reason "settings":["allowCode","requireThreadFile"] and that's not even in the catalog json updating that might not be that difficult, but I'm not sure where it's actually deciding to pull those from to pass it through all its nonsense in the first place it could, maybe should, also expose it in the page template, but it's just as convoluted to figure out what it actually has available to populate with the performance issues are more related to cruft, especially in the front end just skim through catalog.js and catalogSorting.js it's getting band-aided, but it could use a complete rewrite really (not that it does all that much)

>>325430 > but I don't see why it'd be hardcoded instead of letting the user set/override it themselves It's a per-board setting, so making an intuitive UI for such a setting would be a pain in the ass, it would require the users asking on every board what the current limit is, and it would be outdated when a board decides to change their post/thread limit. I'd tackle import/export first mainly for TOR users, and if this parameter gets query-able then I'd make it automatic. As for publishing the updated script, I'm not the original author, so I don't know how I'd proceed. >postlock doesn't even have a flag on thread objects, I think it's just a posting check that aborts the post based on autosageLimit * 2 The /vyt/ vols are kind enough to check and lock such threads manually, but again, it's a band-aid for this board, not all of them.

Testing, testing since I screwed up the tags on my previous post.

Which vtubers can be paid 5 dollars to shill /vyt/? Which can be convinced with a frim, yet friendly, handshake and eye-contact? I'm also willing to hand out solid pats on the back.

The results of my testing.

Does anyone know how to fix this captcha problem

>>329622 Is he talking about the bypass?

>>329650 I think so

>>329668 My only suggestion is to try a different browser, and if that doesn't work, then to try connecting over TOR. It's what I do, and I've not had any bypass problems.

>>329692 he is a firefox bro

Test

>>329731 hello

>>329734 Hi there, Edge works. I wonder what's going on with Firefox then..

>>329754 firekek bros...

>>329770 >>329754 Tor Browser is firefox based and I've had 0 problems with the capchas (unless the particular capcha is super bullshit and I can't tell the e from the c because the image is fucked). It might be an issue with some extension or the cache. Does firefox still not work if you're on a clean browser profile? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles

>>329796 I don't use a browser profile, I just use firefox as is with plug-ins and stuff

Test

HUH???

>>329811 >I don't use a browser profile, That just means you're using the default profile that firefox created for you. If some extension or setting in that profile is messing up the capchas, then creating a separate profile can be used to see if that's the case. Then you can try re-installing your extensions to it one by one to see if one of them is breaking it.

>>329841 >>329836 If firefox is working now, it may just have been making a bypass on edge that fixed it.

>>329850 Firefox is working now, yes. Though Edge may have done it, there was something else I tried that may also have been a solution. I had DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials turned on, idk how long that's been there, but I've turned it off in case that's what's messing with it.

>>329877 it's possible, but there's also been people using a completely blank firefox profile with a similar issue it's really hard to guess at since few people provide diagnostics and it can't be reproduced at will the PoW solver needs some feedback updates at minimum so you know what it's doing

Can we start cracking down on people constantly talking about 4chan

>>324166 >/pcg/ expressed some interest but then nobody actually got around to making a board for it last I checked. if this is a real please announce it in pcg so that more people take a look at it >though as far as I know only /#/ has done so as of now. where is this thread, and its archive?

>>332085 >>>/num/ I guess I could make a post there if you think it would help, but yeah all they really need to do is make a board like this and then start filing global reports for their dead threads to move them there. (Make sure to specify the exact board name in the reports, don't expect the globals to go hunting for where to put them)

>>332512 Please do. I've been trying to direct people here when they have questions. Almost nobody looks at this thread, let alone lurks it.

>>332606 I just pop in every few days to see if new things have been discussed

>>332512 we made it >>>/phase/ but I think there may be a problem? >>>/site/14605

>>335589 Well, at the very least I'm pretty sure ban logs have always been cross-board anyway, so vols of one board can see bans somebody got on other boards regardless. Not too sure about the implications of the report thing, I feel like it's probably not a major deal for us since they're dead threads that shouldn't need further action, but I'll mention it to the others just in case.

>>335589 please move your live threads, too, you could have flags there as well

Please rangeban Pakistan India and Bangladesh.

>>336597 why, though?

>>336914 It's a 4cuck seething it can't freely subvert the culture of this place. Watch, next it'll call this place "literally reddit" (boogeyman) because it's "things I don't like"

>>337255 I see

>>335656 That /phase/ board was created by a threadshitter while the rest of us were discussing if we wanted to or not. They're just old threads, so whatever. But if the mod/report logs are available to him now, do those contain IPs or other identifying information? If yes, can you just reassign that board to Codexx? If you can disable posting of new threads on it, it shouldn't have any mod overhead for anyone.

>>337931 No, this is what mods see in "Offense history" mods cannot see the IP of anyone who doesn't post their board. However, any archive board should be ran by the same person running the main board.

So I wrote this CSS a few days ago and posted it in /pcg/. It just styles the then unused board tags to make it do this: >>329548 Anyway it seems likes you guys disabled the board tags some time yesterday. Was it actually a problem somehow? I thought it would be fine, since only people who used the CSS could see it and if it annoyed them they could reduce the speed or text size themselves (I even posted snippets explaining which numbers to change to do so). Or was it something retarded like someone used the CSS and shit up the report queue by reporting all the posts using board tags. @keyframes Squib { 0%, 49.999% { transform: scaleY(1); } 50%, 100% { transform: scaleY(0.5); } } .boardText { font-size: 1.5rem; /* bigger = bigger text */ font-weight: bold; display: inline-block; animation: Squib 0.25s infinite steps(1, end); /* smaller = faster */ transform-origin: Bottom; }

>>338159 Oh, the board tags are back. Last night it was stripping the tags from my posts.

>>337931 BOs and vols cannot see your IP, period. We can see a cryptographically secure hash of your IP. However the /phase/ BO will be able to see some stuff that isn't obvious to an ordinary user.

>Archival System Enabled No More Thread Transfers What's this? I can't find any actual info on it anywhere.

Okay, so things have changed. >>>/site/14626 The site owners have decided to move beyond the archive board system and instead enable archives. We will now be able to move your thread from the catalog to an onsite archive.

>>340132 >onsite archive. Where?

>>340171 Yeah, all the archive buttons seem to still link to archive.today.

>>340171 Threads will be removed from the catalog, and will be locked, but will otherwise behave normally. Here's an example. >>98 (Cross-thread)

>>340254 and how to you see all these threads? do you need direct links to all or is there a board?

>>340278 There isn't a board. Any thread I archive I'll link here.

>>340254 >>340313 I assume threads that were already migrated to other boards are just fucked. This whole thing came like a week too late now some generals are stuck between now worthless archive boards and this new archive that seems like a pain to find threads. Hopefully things can get better.

>>340351 The new archives shouldn't create any more of a pain in finding threads than the archive boards. They'll be wound down eventually, but they aren't going to be unceremoniously deleted either. I think the actual problem here is that all the threads that were moved are now on a separate numeric system from the rest of the board, which makes them hard to integrate with any future archive, but /pcg/ at least has been archived on archive.to so it should be correctable (/#/ might be rip). The actual solution to all of this is a real archive, but no one stepped up and did it and all of the vols are too busy. I wish it had gone better as well, but we took the necessary measures to prevent them from being lost entirely.

>>339478 Ok thanks. If IPs aren't visible I'm much less concerned. Anyway, the new archive system will be a much better solution. I assume eventually there will be an option to have old threads automatically roll off into the archive. But while it's in testing how will that work? Should I report (non-global) threads that are ready for archiving?

>>340415 Is there a difference between archive.to and archive.ph? /#/ has all their threads archived on ph. >>>/num/17

>>340508 should just be extra domains I could probably write a quick translator to recreate the json from the few # threads I missed https://files.catbox.moe/6tw82i.zip here's the rest as of a few minutes ago just in case something happens as long as the media's still around on an 8chan server, a nearly full browse-able/searchable offsite archive (aside from deleted stuff) could be recreated

>>340545 I'm working on an archive site currently. Unfortunately, my Raspberry Pi's power supply chose last week to die, so it won't be available until I get that back up and running.

>>340415 Should we (/pcg/) move the old threads back here then?

>>341132 Well it's not like it can't be done, but I think they'd get renumbered again so I don't know if it's worth it

>>337255 do I need to remind you that the active 4chan admin thegrapeape is a tenma simp? phase already has halfchan under their control

>>342302 Yes, yes, and next you're gonna post the screenshot of his reply to her Twitter post with almost no interaction (but that part got conveniently cropped out) as proof. Now back to your cuckshed you go.

>>342316 why would I go back to that phase-infested shithole?

/lig/ has been archived. Links to previous /lig/ threads. >>229 (Cross-thread) >>11437 (Cross-thread) >>24445 (Cross-thread) >>31872 (Cross-thread) >>39737 (Cross-thread) >>46897 (Cross-thread) >>52210 (Cross-thread) >>58745 (Cross-thread) >>64074 (Cross-thread) >>72687 (Cross-thread) >>77085 (Cross-thread) >>83434 (Cross-thread) >>89459 (Cross-thread) >>95406 (Cross-thread) >>100419 (Cross-thread) >>107012 (Cross-thread) >>112522 (Cross-thread) >>118709 (Cross-thread) >>125415 (Cross-thread) >>131743 (Cross-thread) >>139959 (Cross-thread) >>150384 (Cross-thread) >>162605 (Cross-thread) >>172674 (Cross-thread) >>182380 (Cross-thread) >>193214 (Cross-thread) >>212692 (Cross-thread) >>221582 (Cross-thread) >>231358 (Cross-thread) >>238445 (Cross-thread) >>246276 (Cross-thread) >>254166 (Cross-thread) >>261624 (Cross-thread) >>269609 (Cross-thread) >>277706 (Cross-thread) >>288468 (Cross-thread) >>299089 (Cross-thread) >>313033 (Cross-thread)

/vsj+/ and /vag/ have been archived. Links to previous threads. /vsj+/ >>1167 (Cross-thread) >>36813 (Cross-thread) >>66001 (Cross-thread) >>85266 (Cross-thread) >>110491 (Cross-thread) >>134225 (Cross-thread) >>142580 (Cross-thread) >>152308 (Cross-thread) >>160898 (Cross-thread) >>169484 (Cross-thread) >>181774 (Cross-thread) >>193784 (Cross-thread) >>213137 (Cross-thread) >>229757 (Cross-thread) >>249490 (Cross-thread) >>268072 (Cross-thread) >>284272 (Cross-thread) >>299255 (Cross-thread) >>309221 (Cross-thread) >>321927 (Cross-thread) /vag/ >>224 (Cross-thread) >>39070 (Cross-thread) >>110943 (Cross-thread) >>153281 (Cross-thread) >>180379 (Cross-thread) >>203711 (Cross-thread) >>224446 (Cross-thread) >>244504 (Cross-thread) >>263341 (Cross-thread) >>276171 (Cross-thread) >>293006 (Cross-thread) >>310360 (Cross-thread)

/flip/, /pyon/, /mint/, /HAHA/ and /tsunX/ have been archived. Links to previous threads. /flip/ >>1879 (Cross-thread) >>51589 (Cross-thread) >>114940 (Cross-thread) >>174108 (Cross-thread) >>216300 (Cross-thread) >>265043 (Cross-thread) >>302168 (Cross-thread) /pyon/ >>1327 (Cross-thread) >>63470 (Cross-thread) >>122472 (Cross-thread) /mint/ >>4611 (Cross-thread) >>111015 (Cross-thread) /HAHA/ >>13526 (Cross-thread) >>104862 (Cross-thread) >>170222 (Cross-thread) >>237630 (Cross-thread) /tsunX/ >>6201 (Cross-thread) >>91538 (Cross-thread) >>145226 (Cross-thread) >>180774 (Cross-thread) >>206653 (Cross-thread) >>228167 (Cross-thread) >>246085 (Cross-thread) >>272866 (Cross-thread) >>296693 (Cross-thread) >>316153 (Cross-thread)

Shouldn't these be posted in a separate thread or maybe the other sticky so they won't get buried as this thread cycles?

>>342905 The entire point here is to avoid clogging up the catalog with useless threads. I'm saving everything to a txt, I'll put it into a pastebin when I'm done and you can bookmark it.

/MANS/, /pkg/ and various smaller threads have been archived. That should be all of the archiving for now. You can view a full list of archived threads here: https://pastebin.com/HhmRHJf3 Links to previous threads. /MANS/ >>2149 (Cross-thread) >>96402 (Cross-thread) >>148410 (Cross-thread) >>186716 (Cross-thread) >>209954 (Cross-thread) >>239697 (Cross-thread) >>289147 (Cross-thread) /pkg/ >>21345 (Cross-thread) >>227784 (Cross-thread) >>297873 (Cross-thread) /swarm/ >>361 (Cross-thread) /suuji/ >>11386 (Cross-thread) /vrt/ >>3140 (Cross-thread) >>113483 (Cross-thread) /BIG/ >>3029 (Cross-thread) /tingles/ >>2952 (Cross-thread) /asp/ >>708 (Cross-thread) /pxl/ >>2269 (Cross-thread) /SVP/ >>2716 (Cross-thread) /shon/ >>13860 (Cross-thread)

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/gsg/ >>15205 (Cross-thread) /VReX/ >>21647 (Cross-thread) elfinpsyop drama >>42776 (Cross-thread) >>73763 (Cross-thread) various locked/bumplocked threads >>100 (Cross-thread) >>623 (Cross-thread)

>>342971 You should check the banner thread

>>331335 I agree with you but I don't think it's gonna happen since it does feel like nitpicking or mod powertripping to ban or block mentioning 4chan At most maybe just an etiquette reminder is needed to not bring their complaining or misery over interacting with schizos on 4chan to entirely different website where the exact solution to their problem literally exists

>>347577 at least 25% of the posts on every altchan is people bitching about how much they hate 4chan while having it open the next tab over

I think >>54371 (Cross-thread) could safely be locked or removed.

>>342910 Would it be possible to add the pastebin link to the OP of the other sticky for easy access?

>>347709 which is fine, we don't live in isolation. As long as it's not the main topic of a thread, why should people avoid talking about other places. There's probably 1000 posts in pcg talking about 4chan, but they are drowned by 50 thousand other posts that are on topic. It's fine.

What the fuck. I hadn't visited for a little bit, why is a large chunk of the catalogue missing? It's supposed to show 29 pages now its 13. Those older threads more or less acted like archives since 8chan has no 3rd party archive sites like Desu. Right pissed if they were nuked because people complained. Navigating the catalog was fine.

>>357691 Some threads were moved to dedicated archival boards like >>>/num/ or >>>/phase/ and the "archive thread" feature was also added that allows some old dead threads to be hidden from the catalog without removing them, you can find a list of threads that were archived like that a bit further up in this thread

>>176146 (Dead) Absolutely mega based mods. Fuck you and your bat spam shit.

>>176146 (Dead) Why are you people on a mission to get everyone to hate BatAtVideoGames?

>>359981 I've never watched this girl, but it does rub me the wrong way when she's spammed in a Phase thread. That she collabed once is not a justification for posting her outside of collabs.

Hi! Could we introduce a rule specifically against My Little Pony posting?

>>176146 (Dead) LMAO get fucked you anti posting threadshitting faggot! Based mods.

>>360981 If it's off-topic and clearly thread shitting just report it. You don't need a specific rule for that

>>348240 Seconding this - I think the topic has been discussed to what amounts to "no, you won't fuck her" and it only incites dramafag posting

Why are vols just ignoring a blatant ban evader who was banned by another vol for good reason?

>>362253 Stop vague posting dramatourist.

moe is giving me >Error 503 Backend fetch failed

hey dudes, we have a sperg in /lig/ who likes to brag about harrassing vtubers. can he be gone forever please? simon style >>364313 (Cross-thread)

>>363398 Use .se instead

Think /pcg/ is being raided, there's some guys who have baitposted for pretty much the entire thread.

>>370350 Stop being a cry baby over nothing

>>370350 >talent periods synced and spergy >anon periods synced and spergy sounds about right

>>370350 you can only dish it out but you can't take it is that right, phasecuck? fuck off back to halfchan under the wings of the phase jannies lmfao

>>370350 bro, I read the thread and you're overreacting, this is pretty much normal pcg infighting. Unless there's spam of cuckposting and blackposting, I don't think it's a raid, just a couple of the resident schizos who like arguing about stuff related to the talents.

>>370638 bro, you know halfchan doesn't care about Phase, and jannies there allow blatant trolling against Phase and falseflagging using Phase. If anything the jannies here actually care about Phase which is the reason this place is awesome.

>>371131 Don't even bother and just filter that fag. He already tried this sort of retarded falseflagging last week a few posts above (above the archived threads list).

Please clean up /pcg/ we've been under nonstop assault for 15 hours now.

Can we have a button in the Quick Reply box to convert a PNG into a JPG? And also an entry field to rename the image before replying? Can we have a Quick Reply box that allows us to queue various posts with their images?

>>374826 file renaming is in next update jpg conversion should be a userscript queuing is kind of cancer

Full day of nonstop fetish loops and Fanbase wars. Please try to understand that you're not indispensable and that the board can easily get abandoned again if the moderation is as permissive as 4chan. People moved here because it was better. People will move back if here's just better because you can say nigger. Which I appreciate but it's not sufficient.

>>375241 Stfu cuckie. You have pcgia to play in.

>>373053 Meds.

>>375241 the reports don't support it this isn't a place that bends the knee to he who complains the loudest, which will make people move away far faster >you have the site tools >you have your reports >you can try to make your case to your peers >you have other threads beyond that veers into concerntrolling

>>375516 and I should say, you also have >your posts which is one of the better responses to a thread doing things you don't like >post what you like >encourage what you like >all else fails, post porn /jidf/ is good at that if they feel like things were going off the rails or they're getting raided, they just post cunny until everyone's too busy jerking off or otherwise distracted

>>374843 What about uploading files by URL? There are often twitter posts with image attachments that I'd post but I don't because I can't be bothered to download, post and then delete manually. The most obvious example is weekly schedule graphics, I don't see a reason to keep a local copy of those.

>>375750 it's been requested now and then, but on pc copy image -> ctrl-v does the same job mobile, idk maybe a button to pull from clipboard instead of opening the media picker

>>375764 >but on pc copy image -> ctrl-v does the same job I didn't know that, thanks! pic unrelated, testing

>>375896 yeah, the only issue with that is it doesn't automatically open the QR, but it does put it in the form, you just have to open it yourself for now

>>375750 >>375764 agree with posting from URL. Sometimes you want to post an image from a different thread or site. It's so much simpler to link the URL of that image rather than downloading and re-uploading, or copy pasting. And this would also help when posting images on mobile. On 4chan being able to post things from URLs was great if you were ever stuck on mobile for a while.

>>376085 explain how copy image isn't exactly the same thing as copy url the only thing missing is a way to paste on mobile or with mouse

>>374843 >queuing is kind of cancer here's my use case. I want to post one schedule at a certain time because I need to leave. So I work on the post, save it, and then when it's time, I'll post it. Meanwhile, I can keep watching the current stream, and positing about it live. When I'm not able to queue posts it makes it hard for me to prepare posts in parallel. Especially being able to queue images is great, otherwise I need to hunt the images I want to use, and use them at the right time. I use a text editor to prepare my posts because the site doesn't let me queue them. If we could post images by URL, this would also help because then I wouldn't need to save the image, I could just save its location in text.

>>376183 tabs? the way I've always done it there is an issue with clipboard pastes since you only get one and I'm not sure what a workaround for that looks like probably just blob it and save it in browser memory, but 4chan was that way, too less viable on mobile if it sleeps the tabs aggressively and doesn't retain the information maybe

>>376103 >explain how copy image isn't exactly the same thing as copy url well, it's obviously not exactly the same, otherwise it would be exactly the same, and it's not >paste on mobile Exactly that, it's not easy to post on mobile. Also, you are thinking about posting immediately. I pick many images, but don't want to post them immediately. I want to post them later. So the way to do that, is to have the URL of the image which I can store temporarily and then post them as I want, when I see fit.

>>376268 >tabs? the way I've always done it tabs are not a substitute for saving things, this has been argued for a long time on the Internet. Some people use tabs as temporary folders.

>>376272 >well, it's obviously not exactly the same, otherwise it would be exactly the same, and it's not semantics when you're petitioning to have work done for you probably isn't the play >Exactly that, it's not easy to post on mobile. which is a solvable problem >Also, you are thinking about posting immediately. I pick many images, but don't want to post them immediately. I want to post them later. So the way to do that, is to have the URL of the image which I can store temporarily and then post them as I want, when I see fit. ok, fair, but >>376282 first, I mean opening another tab to the thread and preparing the post there second, if we're talking about things that have been around a long time, download folders predate tabs and I can't imagine a sane reason to not use them as intended

You fags do realize there's a script thread over on /t/ and this is /vyt/'s meta, right?

>>376436 Oh, I wanted to make this point about inserting images by URL. Youtube thumbnails all follow a generic address https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/__CODE__/maxresdefault.jpg Where CODE_ is the video code in question like "SGSHJ8r9" or something. So, to insert the thumbnail in the thread you don't even need to see the image, you can just use the same address, and change the CODE to the corresponding video that you want. So this is really helpful to insert images without needing to preview them. No need to Ctrl+C Ctrl+V the image buffer, just copy and paste a line of text, the URL. Occasionally, the "maxresdefault.jpg" image will be empty because the streamer didn't upload a high resolution image, in that case, you do need to preview it, or you could just use a lower resolution image https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/__CODE__/hqdefault.jpg

Out of nowhere there is suddenly a surge of nuggetposts and nuggetposters on /pcg/ complaining that the vtubers don't like being portrayed in art of weird men cutting off the arms and legs of women and masturbating to their torsos. Feels like a coordinated discord raid for an obscure astroturfed fetish. They bring Baki out of nowhere when no one in Phase talks about Baki except Tenma once 3 years ago to say she hated it. Frankly its sickening and it belongs in /d/ not /vyt/ I wouldn't mind if its just spoilered porn but this group acts morally outraged that the girls are telling them not to make violent art of them anymore. Like if you're going to troll the girls, don't whine when they hit back. It's the position of acting above-it-all that's the worse part. None of the guro or vore anons care about how others see them. They just fap and move on but these nuggetfags are claiming they don't fap to something that is clearly their fetish. That's what proves they're raiders from somewhere else.

>>377011 Stop crying you stupid nigger

>>377011 Sharty trying to start shit, ignore

>>376875 The code tags messed up the underscores. I meant it like https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/CODE/maxresdefault.jpg where CODE is the video ID like SGSHJ8r9. So again, posting by URL means that I can post thumbnails without needing to preview them because I know that only CODE changes.

>>376827 please link it

>>382478 >>>/t/17721 also many of the scripts across the site are cataloged here https://rentry.org/moemoetweaks various ones may or may not work at this point 8chanSS seems like the only script dev still active

>>376436 another reason posting content by URL is good is to post animated content, GIFs, webms, mp4s, etc. You cannot simply copy and paste a video, or drag it from one window to the other, you will grab a single frame but not the entire animation.

>>377011 blame Jerry for starting it and Tenma for fanning the flames

Did something change in the past 12 hours? Now the page is red for several seconds on load before turning blue, like the default css is being read first instead of last.

>>382500 what kind of sick fuck would want to hide dice rolls?

Catbox just got fucked in the ass by Patreon Are you a bad enough dude to help? I don't know where else to put this https://blog.catbox.moe/post/785233399498555392/important-catbox-needs-your-help

>>386385 It could conceivably be it's own thread.

>>386385 yeah, r.i.p. catbox was an ok rapidshare clone the lamentation of the soundposters will entertain me briefly

>>386278 (same person) The biggest problem with this is opening a thread from the watcher no longer takes you to the last read post.

>>386385 *laughs in mp4* o7 my man, we had a good run

>>135979 (Cross-thread) should be nuked. I already said before that the ES vtuber fans were just going to shit their pants when their fav menhera chuubas would fight each other eventually

>>386278 It's a stylesheet for the hispachan migration anniversary.

>>391386 Is there a js workaround for this? >>386652 Like an onload thing that only triggers if there's a currently highlighted post?

I've been experiencing this problem for a while now, so I assumed it's normal. However, does anyone else's page slow to a screeching halt when a thread reaches 600 or so posts? I've noticed that after so many posts it struggles it load things and even when scrolling. As for the stuff I've been using just in case. >Brave >8chanSS >FullchanX >8chan Sounds Player >Lynxchan Extended Minus Minus >ublock Origin

>>396015 fullchanX is the most likely culprit considering its dev is inactive and it has conflicts with the others

Why are numbeniggers allowed to have a general here when they have a whole board to themselves on /num/ ?

>>396093 I've disabled it and it seemed to improve slightly but the issue still persists if im scrolling over new content if that makes sense. >>396389 I've been checking on them every now and then and they've seem to be in good behavior. Saw them even mentioning that it's infinitely better here than back in halfchan so take that as you will.

>>396389 I don't use num but I thought num was the archive board for the # thread. So basically, num hold only the old threads, not the current thread. If they have an active thread there, well, I don't know.

>>398032 anon's just shitposting if the "numberniggers" didn't give it away

>>398097 that's what they're called, though

4/vt/ is slowly dying off

>Den of samefagging and threadshitting parasites dying without a host Good.

>>401260 If only we could advertise somehow and steal the "good" posters, that is, the ones who are not scared away by "MUH SPOOKY IDS"

>>401260 the dead board has over double the traffic of tower and 6x of here. grim.

>>403088 Don't blatantly advertise, it looks bad (>>406135) and it's just gonna attract shitposters anyway. Most of the people that would want to come here already know about this place anyway. The rest will come over time as the other place continues to get worse.

The last time I tried to "blatantly" advertise this place I got range banned for a few days.

>leave shitty board >tell shitty board's posters to come to the good board I wish you fuckers would stop already

>>406407 >Most of the people I don't agree at all. For good or bad, 4chan has name recognition. Some people don't know any alternative exists. Just telling them "hey, come check this place" once in a while is not bad.

>>406915 I think it already gets mentioned enough in passing by other anons, and agree with others that blatant shilling will probably do more harm than good.

>>406478 Yeah, no shit. You would also get banned here if you tried to constantly advertise for people to return to 4chan or move to Tower. >>406915 8chan as a name is toxic to attracting new people. It will be forever linked to mass shootings and QAnon even though this 8chan isn't even the same as that 8chan. Good luck explaining that to prospective posters though.

>>407513 Half the deleted posts on a page on the archive are a guy in hlgg talking about the tower all the time lmao it's about the only thing the jannies moderate besides the Kiara schizo

>>407591 .....you waste your time reading deleted 4chan posts? Who cares?

>>396015 I recommend clicking the "Show 50 Last Posts button" option on the Catalog section of 8chanSS, to get links to threads with less posts

Could you please make the bump limit closer to the post limit so slower generals don't spend half of their lifetime in the middle of the catalog? I think this anon explained the reasoning very well >>214683 (Cross-thread)

>>409495 We can't. Post limit is hardcoded to be twice bump limit. It's possible to recode but someone would have to do that before we could implement it.

>>409495 Codexx has floated the idea before, but he's eternally strapped for time and unless he already has the implementation stashed in mind, that probably wouldn't happen even if we asked for it and there are more important things to work on, so three things: 1) as >>409518 says, that's a backend mod, though probably not that complicated, but the system is kind of a fuck 2) with regard to catalog sorting, the catalog is in desperate need of a rewrite; there's only a couple hundred lines of js and they can almost all be dumpstered and started fresh with a sane approach with things like last reply deserving precedence; if that sounds like you, dear reader, speak up, join the dev team 3) personally, we're slow enough that I don't have an issue with threads that will spend another month in autosage purgatory baking at bump limit instead of post limit; whether that threshold is like a month to bump or like a week to bump or whatever is worthy of community discussion--as in, if your thread is older than x, it's not an issue to bake at bump limit

Any possibility of having the catalog sort by latest reply (instead of bump order)? Also were rotating IDs coming back?

>>411992 >latest reply I think it's been discussed a lot of times, and as the jannies say in the post above you, they don't have enough developers to implement it >rotating IDs the initial reaction was kinda bad so I don't think it will be coming back soon

>>415903 (Dead) there is a whole test board at >>>/test/ btw

Why is there a name field for regular posters?

>>416050 because the board isn't forced anonymous? if this is just bait to get people to fuck their name fields up, using "Anonymous" or clearing the localstorage key "fixes" it

>>416050 4chan also had a name field for regular users. Anonymity is normal but you can be a namefag if you want, except it's basically never done

/Pcg/ is being raided by Offkai trannies btw.

pizza on the catalog, I don't see any way to report without opening the thread

looks like it's gone

>>424096 It's back

>>424104 It's still here

>>431694 shouldn't be back again here

Does anyone else CPU spike up a lot on Firefox while opening a tab on this altchan?

>>445039 very bad cpu? weird/old version of firefox? userscripts? the js load is kind of rough, but it shouldn't be that bad

>>445039 the site mines a shitpost bitcoin and then stores it in your cookies if you clear your history or browse incognito you probably gotta mine a new one

>>445078 it only does that when you try to post and it's just a sha256 generator that's forced to do it a certain number of times

I am curious as to why I was warned for posting the following image. How is a vtuber having insane fans not relevant? The janny said post /pol/ shit on 4chan yet there's been tons of /pol/ type posting in /pcg/? What am i missing? Okay for thee but not for me?

>>448983 you left some parts out of that story thanks for helping debug the pizza bot protection, sorry about the unintentional perma tangentially talking about something in a thread that's vaguely related to a vtuber that thread's about isn't the same as baking a thread to farm (You)s from people that want to bitch about politics and/or current events or timeloop past drama for a two minutes hate on whomever you could try >>>/b/ or >>>/pol/

>>449029 login dropped that happens sometimes

>>449029 I apologize for posting it twice initially as the site runs so beautifully when trying to start a new thread. Nothing I wrote in any of those posts is a lie? >average phase connect fan my opinion >name written on the shotgun along with Breivik this is true and they even show the shotgun in the news story. I even reposted it with that section removed asking for thoughts since someone got their feeling hurt when i mentioned what was written on the shotgun. >you could try /b/ or /pol/ i will post there instead of here out of respect for your decision but the least you could do is acknowledge that theres a double standard here and that phase gets preferential treatment as they are the only thing keeping the board alive thanks

>>449085 I fixed the post button not showing uploading % that should be in this update whenever it hits

Moe and se are timing out on desktop but I can get here on mobile

>>449676 Are you using your ISP's DNS?

>>449716 Yes? I haven't reconfigured anything

>>449792 No one should probably do that in this day and age. Use mullvad or quad9 or something. https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls https://quad9.net/service/service-addresses-and-features/ You set what servers you want in your router, os, or browser. ISPs love to fuck their DNS up to easily deny you service or just be retarded about shit.

Why is the filter option so shitty here? On 4chan I can make a filter using regular expressions to quickly find my home generals but here I can't use a pipe (this symbol -> | ). Why is that? Example of a filter on 4chan: https://boards.4chan.org/vt/catalog#s=/vrt/%20Retro|/lig/%20-

>>450872 because the codebase is half-baked bullshit ancient javascript from 10+ years ago that barely works that said, that's not hard to do, but probably no one's priority unless you want to join up why aren't you using the watcher?

>>450891 I will cook something up, give me a minute.

>>450891 >>450971 So I went ahead and I made my own userscript because I couldn't live with that functionality. I use Tampermonkey and It Works on my Machine™, here is the code. https://pastebin.com/4CZg4xbx It replaces the filter input box and you can use it to filter threads in the catalog. You can also use it from the url but I use 'filter' instead of 's' in the querystring to avoid conflicts with the original script. Like so: https://8chan.se/vyt/catalog.html?filter=/vag/%20-%20|/jidf/%20-%20|vrt/%20Retro

>>448983 >>449029 >>449085 I hope "we" won't stoop to half chan levels of outright censoring the news and banning everyone who talks about it.

Can we please start banning cosplay shit on sight it's getting out of hand now

Are we allowed to tell people like the phase schizo to blow their brains out here? It’s clearly one guy/his discord complaining and posting it over and over

Something a fan did isn’t vtubers. It’s not vtuber discussion.

>>453161 /news/ is our tribe journalism is an enemy tribe

>>453219 Cry about it.

>>453461 yes, I was referring to /news/ I fully expect halfchan to censor the thread

>>453430 I have told people to kill themselves many times, I don't see an issue. Are you talking about pcg? I don't see anything wrong with that thread, just regular banter

>>453433 In my opinion it is vtuber discussion if what the fan did has the vtuber in question. Now, your sentence could be interpreted as the autist gun guy, or cosplayers. The first one only deserves a quick mention, the second one is actually about vtubers.

>>453219 I doubt anybody agrees with you that (1) it's offtopic, and that (2) it's getting out of hand. Cosplays are posted when they are released online, then everybody comments on it, and then moves on.

>>457321 >Random 3dpd whores aren't off topic

>>457353 if they are random, yes, if they are cosplaying Phase Connect talents in pcg, then what do you think, brainiac? Then they aren't oftopic

>>453219 All we need is image hash filtering so you can stop malding at cosplays of phase. That way you can cry yourself to sleep in your filter bunker and the rest of us can see neat cosplays of the girl

I got banned for breaking global rule 2, then it was appealed. Can I remake the thread I was wrongfully banned for? Can you explain why it got banned in the first place so I can try not to get a false ban in the future?

>>459265 you're good, it's restored hit a hole in a spam filter

>>459268 What does that mean

>>459270 it means there were bots making catalog threads and now there aren't it should have been protected from getting hit, but it's a work in progress

>>457353 But spamming <cocks with a Jelly avatar is on topic?

Odd how nobody made a spoiler image for /vyt/. I guess we don't really use them here

>>469235 but we do

>>469235 >he doesn't know >we

>>469252 That's the default one, I mean a custom one

When the bakers at /pcg/ double bake, can you guys just delete the second thread instead of gluing the breads together? It messes with the userscripts and highlighting posts by ID gets broken.

>>470379 Never had that problem. Have you tried a refresh/hard refresh?

>>469283 What do you mean a custom one?

Are mod actions tied to an ip, and if so is there a way to see them? I or someone else got a warning on this mobile ip, but without a 4chan-like ban page I have no idea what post it was for. I definitely haven't posted anything "doxxy" and the log seems to only show bans and deletions.

>>476503 it might be either bypass or ip like a lot of other things warns are shown in the logs, but it's probably an old one especially if it's a phone ip either way if they don't seem to apply they can be disregarded as for improving them, people talk about it sometimes, but it might mostly be a vol issue "<offense> in <place>" except for bots makes it more clear

>>476563 It's probably like this for privacy reasons, and all my posts are still up so I guess it's fine.

>>474495 Picrel is the spoiler image on /v/

>>469235 What would you even use for a generic vtuber spoiler? An anime girl in the bottom right of a screen?

>>469283 We had a Pippa one for one or two days but people disliked it. You couldn't really tell it was supposed to be a spoiler. Pic related is a modified version to adress this issue but still it still does a poor job at it. People also didn't want to have vtubers that are off-topic for their respective threads/generals. It would be weird to have a Pippa spoiler image in /choc/ or /lig/. There isn't a vtuber that works for everyone. So the easiest solution was to modify the 4chan one. We also had the idea to make a board-tan and base the spoiler image on her, there is a thread about it >>85902 (Cross-thread)

>>478051 Maybe a yipee with a question mark on its face or something

is there any plans to have the option to insert pictures by URL, rather by copying and pasting or uploading?

>>489008 what's the use-case?

>>489233 You wouldn't have to save a local file to your computer and then upload it you could just paste a link and the site will directly download it. If you have a poor internet connection it also saves bandwidth

>>489257 that's not how that feature usually works and it might be worse on bandwidth since it probably can't pull from cache like copypaste can seems like a really bad idea to let users tell a website what to try connecting to, especially with no effort on their end

>>489233 Somebody posts a funny video in a thread. I want to post the same in my thread. I cannot Ctrl+C it. I cannot drag it from that window and drop it into another window's reply box. I can download it to my computer, and then reupload it, but this is annoying. If I could get the direct URL, then it'd be much easier just to copy and paste its address into the reply box. Another use case is Youtube thumbnails. I want to post a video thumbnail. I know the address of the image, it's always https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/XXXX/maxresdefault.jpg where XXXX is code of the video I'm watching. I don't need to download the picture, I just want to insert it in the thread, so reusing the same URL with a variable XXXX makes sense. Another case is posting pictures when using a mobile phone. Downloading or dragging images is annoying. It's much easier to insert images if you can just copy and past the URL of the image.

>>489282 >seems like a really bad idea to let users tell a website what to try connecting to, especially with no effort on their end this is probably right... but it's sooo convenient, very user friendly not having to download an image to be able to insert it in the thread. I guess it is bad to connect to a random website to fetch an image but maybe some compromise could be reached such as whitelisting 8chan's own domain, so that inserting images from anywhere in 8chan by URL is possible Other major domains could be whitelisted such as Youtube's domain that holds video thumbnails i3.ytimg.com Maybe others, imgur, wikimedia, reddit, twitter, facebook, instagram, pinterest, etc.

>>492311 the way it's typically done afaik is clientside the js downloads the url into a blob or something the functionality might be a paste button we talked about before if it can inspect the clipboard for a media item, file pointer, or link typing urls by hand seems like a very rare edge case covered by typing it somewhere and ctrl-c/ctrl-x or a bookmarklet that copies it to the clipboard or if the implementation isn't retarded, calling addUploadFile() or whatever yourself

>>492311 >open a gaping anus security hole >to help dumb redditors phonepost

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>>495913 based. kill yourself.